RAOF | Luke-Jr: If someone is willing to step forward to do that package maintenance, great! | 00:25 |
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RAOF | As bfgminer is in universe, it'll need to be a community effort. | 00:26 |
Luke-Jr | RAOF: hm, couldn't the same packaging scripts be used that made 3.10.0? | 01:16 |
RAOF | Luke-Jr: It probably _is_ an easy job, yes, but it's still something that needs doing. | 01:16 |
dodobrain | is it ok now to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 ? | 01:35 |
sney | try it and see | 01:36 |
sney | the support channel is normally #ubuntu, no? | 01:37 |
dodobrain | ah true, i joined here by mistake. i want to go directly from 12.04 to 14.04 without going through the intermediary releases | 01:37 |
dodobrain | iirc, last time someone told me i'd have to wait till july to be able to do this | 01:38 |
sney | what would you even save by doing that? time? but you were willing to wait? | 01:39 |
* sney scratches his head | 01:39 | |
dodobrain | not time, but some accidental issues | 01:40 |
dodobrain | i wasn;t sure 12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04 would work | 01:40 |
ScottK | You can do-release-upgrade -d now and it'll go direct. | 03:16 |
dholbach | good morning | 07:02 |
ESphynx | good morning dholbach ;) | 07:16 |
dholbach | hi ESphynx | 07:16 |
ESphynx | how's it going? | 07:19 |
dholbach | good good - how about yourself? | 07:28 |
ESphynx | crazy! | 07:29 |
dholbach | hm? | 07:30 |
ESphynx | dholbach: trying to get this release ready and then presentation ready before the Symposium on Monday :P | 07:31 |
dholbach | I'll cross my fingers for you then! :) | 07:32 |
ESphynx | hehe thanks | 07:32 |
ESphynx | also building a new website :| | 07:32 |
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Corwin | Hello! We develop webmail software, and we'd like to have our opensource webmail app included in Universe repository :) | 11:35 |
Corwin | All the procedures were done and the bug was posted: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1328094 Thanks in advance! :) | 11:35 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1328094 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] AfterLogic WebMail Lite PHP, Ubuntu package" [Wishlist,Fix committed] | 11:35 |
rbasak | Corwin: ewelcome! | 11:43 |
rbasak | Corwin: Fix Committed isn't really right, since it's not committed in any way *in Ubuntu*. | 11:44 |
rbasak | Corwin: have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages? The usual route for new packages is through Debian. | 11:44 |
rbasak | "The package contains the installer script only. WebMail itself and configuration files are download from AfterLogic website once the installer is launched." | 11:45 |
rbasak | Corwin: ^^ I'm pretty sure this makes it unsuitable for inclusion, both for Debian and for Ubuntu. | 11:46 |
Corwin | I think I've seen that I need to switch to "Fix Committed" on some packaging guide, probably got that wrong. And yes, I saw the Debian-related bit, still thought I should try the MOTU route first :) | 11:48 |
Corwin | and the last bit is sad :/ | 11:48 |
Corwin | anyway, i do appreciate checking this! | 11:51 |
rbasak | Corwin: imagine if all packages in Ubuntu didn't actually install the software, but instead required an additional Internet download from some third party source. | 11:51 |
rbasak | Corwin: it'd be completely unworkable and unusable. | 11:51 |
rbasak | I've commented on the bug. | 11:53 |
geser | Corwin: why an installer? can't it get packaged directly? | 11:54 |
Corwin | users tend to update all the package to newest versions available, which will overwrite any custom changes they could have made. | 11:55 |
rbasak | Corwin: why is this package special, over all the other software shipped in Ubuntu? | 11:55 |
Corwin | One thing I'm trying to understand is, do you think packaging for Debian first will make the package appear faster, compared to going through MOTU directly? | 11:57 |
Corwin | And of course, we'll modify the package to have the source included completely. | 11:58 |
rbasak | Corwin: if the package is in Debian, it gets automatically imported to Ubuntu. So you only need to do it once to cover both distributions. | 12:49 |
rbasak | Corwin: if the package is uploaded to Ubuntu, then that increases our delta with Debian, and thus maintenance, and so we're more reluctant to do it. | 12:50 |
rbasak | Corwin: for both processes, you'll need a sponsor, and a NEW review (ftpmasters for Debian, archive admins for Ubuntu) | 12:50 |
rbasak | NEW reviews tend to take a while since the teams are relatively small. | 12:51 |
rbasak | As someone who would need a sponsor, I suggest that you aren't really in a position to have anything done quickly. So I'd try to follow the process in its most ideal manner, and that's through Debian. | 12:51 |
rbasak | Then you're likely to face the least resistance. | 12:52 |
Corwin | Understood, thanks a lot! | 12:52 |
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