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ubot5For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod01:43
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Brian__does anyone know of issues that might arise from using a VM for ubuntu 14.04 and installing touch on a nexus 402:10
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jh2osHey, I'm running on a nexus 5 and outgoing and incoming phone calls work just fine, but sms does not. Can anyone point me in the right direction to fix this?02:17
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lotuspsychjewhere did all touch apps go that not fit in 'top' apps?04:19
dholbachgood morning07:05
oSoMoNgood morning dholbach07:11
oSoMoNdholbach, any chance you could take a look at and ack some packaging changes in oxide to allow us to land silo 4 ?07:12
dholbachsalut oSoMoN07:12
oSoMoNchanges are there: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7769054/ , they need approval from a core dev07:12
dholbachoSoMoN, I'm not sure I'm the best person, but I can take a look - do you have a link?07:12
oSoMoNthe changes are really minor, but the process requires this core-dev ack07:13
NooDleHi there07:14
dholbachoSoMoN, +107:14
Mirvthanks dholbach07:14
dholbachoSoMoN, the changes are basically a no-op07:14
oSoMoNyup, from the packaging standpoint they are07:14
Mirvtoo bad the previous upload didn't get integrated, but it was a ~no-op upload too07:15
dholbachcan the process be changed to make ~no-op changes easier to get done?07:15
MirvoSoMoN: is there nowadays packaging that lives somewhere else than Chris's computer? we could preserve the history for the next upoad?07:15
oSoMoNMirv, I’ve asked Chris where the utopic packaging branch lives, and I’ll fix the changelog there, so that with the next upload we’ll get it back07:15
Mirvdholbach: no, it's the deal that non-coredev trainguards can do publishing. all packaging changes need to be acked, even if they are seemingly no-op.07:16
MirvoSoMoN: thanks!07:16
oSoMoNdholbach, thanks!07:17
NoskcajCould linux-firmware-nexus7 and perhaps linux-firmware-grouper be removed from the archive?07:57
Noskcajthe former has been superseeded by the latter07:58
Noskcajand we no longer build grouper images anyway07:58
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pittihello all08:27
ogra_Noskcaj, ask in #ubuntu-release ... these packages are not touch specific08:28
pittiso on a freshly installed phone, I ran08:28
pittiphablet-click-test-setup --click com.ubuntu.music08:28
pittiphablet-test-run -v music_app.tests.test_music.TestMainWindow.test_create_playlist_from_songs_tab08:28
pittish: 1: /usr/bin/python: not found08:28
pittiwhat am I doing wrong?08:28
popeywhere did your phablet-test-run come from?08:28
pittibzr branch lp:phablet-tools08:29
pittiI just pulled, but no changes to these scripts08:29
popeyi have seen that in the past myself, need to poke a qa person08:29
ogra_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing#Running_Click_tests ... did you run phablet-config-autopilot ?08:30
* pitti runs it with -x, but that's the command that Victor used in bug 133893508:30
ubot5bug 1338935 in Ubuntu Music App "test_create_playlist_from_songs_tab test fails on phone: ToolkitException: No actions in overflow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133893508:30
ogra_(though not sure why that would switch the python version)08:30
pittiogra_: you mean disable the first-time wizards, aa-clicksetup, etc? yes (that's already done)08:30
pitti+ adb shell cd /home/phablet/autopilot; /usr/bin/python3 -c 'import music_app.tests.test_music.TestMainWindow.test_create_playlist_from_songs_tab'08:31
pitti+ import_error=The ubuntuuitoolkit.emulators module is deprecated. Import the autopilot helpers from the top-level ubuntuuitoolkit module.08:31
pittithen it falls back to trying python2, which isn't installed and causes that error (but that's fine, we want to use py3)08:31
ogra_yeah, i think thats normal08:31
ogra_(the import error)08:31
pittiah, so just "./phablet-test-run -v music_app" works08:32
pittiso, weird that http://paste.ubuntu.com/7767875/ worked for Victor08:32
pittianyway, thanks08:33
mandelogra_, do not bring up the match today in the standup08:59
ogra_mandel, haha ... can you see www.google.de outside of germany ?09:03
Mirvogra_: hehe, yes apparently09:03
mandelogra_, cute09:03
mandelogra_, I hate armhf => http://paste.ubuntu.com/7769426/09:10
ogra_oh man09:11
mandelogra_, looks like a bad bug09:14
mandelogra_, getting the glib sources to see exactly what is going on09:14
mandelogra_, ***** I have to debug assembly I have not done in YEARS!09:27
ogra_why is it using assembly at all ...09:27
ogra_it should use gcc atoms09:27
mandelogra_, a headache anyway..09:28
mandelogra_, I need to do a workaround not to hit that hehe09:28
* mandel does not want to deal with this right now09:28
ogra_well, and file a bug09:29
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Sugar Cookie Day! :-D09:36
Transfusionhi, I'm unable to set up my dev environment with ubuntu 13.10 x86_64; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting09:46
Transfusioni get tons of errors related to libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 : Depends: libdrm-intel1:i386 (>= 2.4.38) but it is not going to be installed i386 packages09:46
Transfusionis it because ia32-libs seems to be missing lately for whatever reason09:46
ogra_ia32-libs was turned into a transitional package  two years ago i think, when multiarch support became the default09:51
ogra_you can try adding the packages it complains about to the list (with the :i386 attached to their name)09:53
Transfusionuhh, libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 : Depends: libdrm2:i386 (>= 2.3.1) but it is not going to be installed09:55
Transfusionit just cascades into dependency hell, i'm pretty sure i can't add them all manually :f09:55
Transfusionoh might be one of the ppas i added conflicting09:55
ogra_you did do: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 ... and sudo apt-get update ? ... before you started ?09:56
Transfusionyep, I did that.09:56
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matv1is gmail web app not starting since since latest landed image a known issue?11:37
matv1at least on mako11:37
meaninghey there11:41
meaningI just sent a message to the canonical team using the web form...would like to get contacted by them asap11:42
meaningis someone from the official team connected here ?11:42
popeymeaning: wassup?11:45
mandelogra_, do you know what was the last image with qt 5.2?11:45
popey87 i think11:45
ogra_not from the top of my head ... somewhere around 9011:46
ogra_yeah, 87 might be correct11:46
ogra_check the changelogs ;)11:46
mandelogra_, thx11:46
popey91 was the first with 5.311:46
mandelogra_, well, I'm going to have a headache with this...11:46
mandelogra_, popey have you guys seens qt apps failing/crashing for not known reason?11:46
mandelsince 91 I mean11:46
ogra_not really11:47
popeyno more or less than usual11:47
matv1i am seeing gmail web app crashing though :)  known issue?11:48
popeymatv1: just about to try11:48
popeyogra_: i have had two crashes today on my promoted phone11:48
ogra_oh ?11:48
ogra_what crashed ?11:48
popeynot sure, didnt reboot, went back to the spinning logo11:49
popeyno crash files11:49
popeyjust tried to install gmail webapp, also crashed11:49
matv1popey i am getting: error opening shm /lttng-ust-wait-5-32011 (in get_wait_shm() at lttng-ust--comm.c:886))11:49
popeyso unity  /mir or something11:49
popeymatv1: ignorte that11:49
mandelpopey, so I'm getting the following bt => http://paste.ubuntu.com/7769878/11:50
ogra_popey, if you get the animation then at least the system-compositor crashed ... or even worse lightdm did11:50
mandelpopey, that is in the middle of the event processing of the QEventLoop11:50
popeyroot      1300  0.0  0.1  33432  2700 ?        Ssl  11:28   0:00 lightdm11:50
popeydoesnt look like lightdm11:50
mandelso.. we could have an issue there..11:50
popeyroot      1311  0.5  0.8 162864 16812 ?        Sl   11:28   0:25 unity-system-compositor --spinner=/usr/bin/unity-system-compositor-spinner --file /run/mir_socket --from-dm-fd 10 --to-dm-fd 13 --vt 111:51
popeynot that either11:51
popeyunity died11:51
popeyi get a blank window in gmail11:52
popey[Wed Jul  9 12:51:43 2014] type=1400 audit(1404906704.714:127): apparmor="DENIED" operation="file_receive" profile="com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-gmail_webapp-gmail_1.0.12//oxide_helper" name="/home/phablet/.local/share/com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-gmail/databases/https_mail.google.com_0/1" pid=5544 comm="Chrome_ChildIOT" requested_mask="rw" denied_mask="rw" fsuid=32011 ouid=3201111:52
matv1popey yes same here11:52
meaningpopey hey :)11:52
ogra_popey, right, i get that always if the session restarted ... you get a grey app window, if you kill it and start the app again it is fine11:52
meaningare you from canonical ?11:52
popeymeaning: yes, as are others here11:53
ogra_popey, i think the app didnt really get killed with the session ... so it stays SIGSTOPed in background and if you fire it up in the new session the sleeping app treis to get respawned11:54
ogra_we either need to make sure the session really tears down all the apps or ricmm needs to invent fancy stuff for the app lifecycle to update the app env11:54
popeyogra_: are you talking about the gmail fail?11:54
popeyno, i hadn't started gmail11:55
popeyi literally just installed it11:55
ogra_well, about the issue that alll apps that were running in the former sessioon turn up grey11:55
popeyand then ran it11:55
popeynot grey11:55
popeyit opens, get a toolbar11:55
matv1ogra i think gmail is a different issue11:55
popeybut nothing renders, see apparmor denial above11:55
popeyI'll file a bug11:56
matv1popey okay thx11:56
popeymatv1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-webapps-gmail/+bug/133968611:58
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1339686 in unity-webapps-gmail (Ubuntu) "App fails to load, apparmor error on mako #119" [Undecided,New]11:58
popeycan  you confirm that bug please?11:58
popeywill chase it up later when relavent people wake up12:00
matv1great! quick other question popey. trojita email client12:01
matv1can it be built yet?12:01
matv1i mean somewhat usefully12:01
popeyalso, look in the store at dekko12:01
popeywhich is a preview of what it may look like.12:01
popeyDanChapman is the guy who maintains dekko12:01
matv1ah okay it will look at it. thanks12:02
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t1mpI just did a ubuntu-touch/utopic-proposed12:09
t1mpand now my nexus4 is stuck showing only the Google logo12:10
t1mpadb shell gives me BusyBox, and trying to re-flash it with ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/utopic-proposed says this:12:10
t1mp2014/07/09 14:09:42 Expecting the device to expose an adb interface...12:10
t1mp2014/07/09 14:09:42 Device is |/system/bin/sh: getprop: not found|12:10
t1mp2014/07/09 14:09:42 Device /system/bin/sh: getprop: not found not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel ubuntu-touch/utopic-proposed12:10
t1mpany ideas what may be wrong here?12:10
t1mp < t1mp> I just did a ubuntu-touch/utopic-proposed12:11
Mirvt1mp: I don't have ideas how it does end up in those situations, but you could --wipe --bootstrap flash after adb reboot-bootloader12:11
t1mp* < t1mp> I just did an ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/utopic-proposed12:11
t1mpMirv: ok, trying that, thanks12:11
Mirvat times, I've also had a situation where I only get the google logo, and sometimes there's no reason I can think of12:11
* t1mp re-flashing image 12212:12
t1mpweird, 2014/07/09 14:12:23 Get https://system-image.ubuntu.com/pool/ubuntu-4ebb49eb5f1814477b9c604a7c9bd2a68457f6c3f6ab190607fd6f8381c7839c.tar.xz.asc: EOF12:13
t1mpon 2nd attempt it is downloading the image12:13
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nik90_jdstrand, seb128: ping12:57
kenvandineseb128, my settings branch should be in good shape now13:14
seb128kenvandine, hey, saw that jenkins was happy, thanks13:14
seb128nik90_, oh, contentless ping btw, you might want to ask a question if you want a reply13:15
kenvandinepmcgowan, ^^ i fixed up the cellular plugin13:15
nik90_seb128: sry, I forgot13:15
nik90_seb128: hey I am using the QT FolderListModel to display the /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/ringtones folder in the clock app. On the desktop it works fine..but on the phone it turns up empty13:16
nik90_seb128: I dont see any errors13:16
nik90_seb128: How are you showing it in the system settings app?13:16
pmcgowankenvandine, great, are we ready to land?13:16
kenvandineonce the review is complete13:17
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seb128nik90_, settings are not confined13:19
nik90_seb128: but I am only reading it which I thought I could do without any permission issues13:19
seb128could be, I don't know then13:20
nik90_seb128: thnx. will check with jdstrand if it could be permission issue13:20
seb128nik90_, check the apparmor log for DENY lines?13:21
nik90_seb128: will do13:21
seb128kenvandine, do you work with jgdxx?13:26
seb128kenvandine, could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/1211804-allow-technology-preference/+merge/226125 (not sure if that conflicts with your changes or not)13:27
kenvandineseb128, looks like he merged my latest changes in a few hours ago13:29
jgdxxactually, just minutes ago13:29
seb128review is still welcome if you want to do one ;-)13:29
jgdxxplease do kenvandine :)13:30
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jgdxkenvandine, did you run the cellular tests testing the operator stuff? That failed for me the last time I tried.13:30
pmcgowanss landings woot13:30
kenvandinethat's what i fixed last night13:30
kenvandinejgdx, looks like we never really made sure the cellular panel worked :)13:31
kenvandinei was focused on the phone one13:31
kenvandinebut... what's in the current image doesn't work for me either :)13:31
kenvandineit never lists operators13:31
kenvandinebut it passes the tests13:31
kenvandinemy branch lists operators and ever registers :)13:32
pmcgowankenvandine, I remember now I just switched to the tmobile sim which gave me no signal, so I didnt notice no operators13:32
seb128kenvandine, see, tests are good, they made you fix things!13:32
kenvandineseb128, indeed... i'm thankful!13:32
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kenvandinejgdx, so with libqofono we can change the technology preference?13:34
kenvandinewoot... it looks like it does13:35
kenvandineofono-qt didn't let you13:35
jgdxkenvandine, with my branch it works great!13:35
kenvandineat least last i looked13:35
jgdx(and of course your branch)13:35
kenvandineseb128, btw... now that hotspot landed, with showAllUI enabled the cellular panel doesn't fit on the page13:36
kenvandineand doesn't scroll13:36
kenvandinemust be that contentHeight hack we love so much :)13:37
kenvandinejgdx, with your branch, does it fit?13:37
jgdxkenvandine, on my mako, my branch fits13:37
seb128kenvandine, :/13:37
seb128kenvandine, what to fix that?13:37
kenvandinei'm curious why... for sure13:38
jgdxkenvandine, I don't have hotspots though13:38
kenvandinemaybe we have some bad calculation somewhere for contentHeight13:38
kenvandineseb128, actually, the cellular panel doesn't have that hack13:40
kenvandineso maybe it's a simple fix13:40
kenvandinemight just need to add a height somewhere13:40
seb128kenvandine, want to have a look before we land that work?13:41
kenvandineseb128, has all the bits for hotspot landed?13:42
seb128kenvandine, yes13:42
seb128it's hidden by default though13:42
kenvandineshould it work?13:42
seb128so not important to fix13:42
kenvandinedidn't work for me13:42
seb128I think it's hidden because it doesn't13:42
seb128there is some kernel bug on the n413:42
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kenvandineseb128, jgdx: i just had to put it in a Flickable13:55
seb128that makes sense13:56
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kenvandinejgdx, merge from my branch again13:57
jgdxkenvandine, ack14:03
jgdxpitti, I'm getting sporadic "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoServer: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-NWycDXXzTP: Connection refused" with this code, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7770380/14:05
jgdxpitti, could you give me a hint as to how crazy wrong that is? :)14:05
popeySaviq: davmor2: my welcome screen locked up again on my main phone, is there some magic fu to unblock it?14:06
Saviqpopey, other than killing unity8, no14:06
Saviqpopey, you could try and collect some data, though14:06
Saviqpopey, maybe `pkill -SIGSEGV unity8` to fake a crash14:06
popeywhat do you need?14:06
davmor2popey: restart the phone, apport-bug --hanging `pidof unity8`14:07
davmor2Saviq: you're a bad bad man ;)14:07
Saviqdavmor2, I just hope apport will pick it up ;P14:07
davmor2Saviq: hahaha14:07
popeyno, apport-bug is broken14:08
pittijgdx: looks alright at first sight; do you have something runnable for reproducing?14:08
pittipopey: FYI, bug 133966314:08
ubot5bug 1339663 in apport (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-bug fails with "whoopsie-upload-all: error: unrecognized arguments" when /var/lib/apport/autoreport exists" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133966314:08
jgdxpitti, lp:~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/1297418-apply-new-designs-to-background-panel14:08
popeybug 133668514:08
pittipopey: jibel told me today and filed that14:08
ubot5bug 1336685 in apport (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-bug runs whoopsie-upload-all, can't file bugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133668514:08
davmor2Saviq: would it be easy if there was a nice tb, yes, will you get one then, no ;)14:08
popeyoh, heh14:08
jgdxpitti, sleep(2) after spawn_server seems to solve it, but I notice that you don't sleep when using templates.14:08
Saviqdavmor2, probably not14:09
pittijgdx: right, and spawn_server() waits until the bus name appears on the bus14:09
popeypitti: is anyone working on fixing that?14:10
pittipopey: I will, but I just got to know it like 2 hours ago14:10
popeyoh ☹14:10
pittipopey: in the meantime, use apport-cli instead of ubuntu-bug14:10
popeydoes apport-cli do the same as Saviq said above?14:11
popeyapport-cli --hanging `pidof unity8`14:11
Saviqpopey, yeah, it does14:11
popeyAfter the problem report has been sent, please fill out the form in the14:22
popeyautomatically opened web browser.14:22
popeyit lied14:22
popeyno browser opened14:22
davmor2popey: do you see a link in the terminal?14:22
davmor2popey: yeah that is similar to what I got14:25
kenvandinejgdx, after you merge my branch, be sure to push so we get builds from jenkins14:25
kenvandinei'd like to snag some debs to test it14:25
kenvandinejgdx, your branch that is14:26
davmor2Saviq: no good there I guess popey's report is 147kb14:26
Saviqdavmor2, yeah :|14:27
kenvandinejgdx, i'd rather not do another armhf build of uss :)14:27
* kenvandine has been spending way to much time build packages for that lately 14:27
* jgdx too14:37
jgdxkenvandine, I'm just running one test on the phone, then merge+push14:37
kenvandinejgdx, thx14:37
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jgdxkenvandine, pushed14:52
kenvandinejgdx, i'll watch for CI builds14:52
jgdxseb128, I included mock backgrounds in the system settings package (if that's ok) but the install paths of uss differs. Any suggestions on how to deal with that?14:53
seb128jppiiroi1en, why did you include them in the settings package and not the autopilot one? what do you mean differs, between what and what?14:56
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kenvandineseb128, i think that was meant for jgdx15:13
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kenvandinerobru, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/libfriends/lp1194211/+merge/22615515:21
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jgdxseb128, right. Good point.15:27
cjwatsonmardy_: Did you notice that silo 19 is stuck in -proposed?  The problem is that the build-dependency on chromium-browser was dropped, so unity-chromium-extension now builds on all architectures even though it won't be installable on architectures that lack it15:27
cjwatsonmardy_: Any chance we could put that build-dep back and rebuild/republish that silo?  (Or a build-dep on webbrowser-app would probably do too, if that's lighter-weight)15:28
cjwatsonmardy_: It'd then just need an archive admin to remove the stale binaries from -proposed (which I can do after the silo is republished)15:28
kenvandinejgdx, can you also add a description and commit message to that MP15:36
* kenvandine wonders when CI will run...15:36
MacSlowDoes anybody know why switching off GPS and location-service isn't permanent on the mako (N4)?15:39
ogra_MacSlow, its a bug15:42
ogra_once the actual location service lands this should be fixed15:42
MacSlowogra_, ah ok... thx15:43
kenvandinebfiller, we have another branch from Elleo to add to your list of branches to land15:46
bfillerkenvandine: ack15:52
alex-abreucjwatson, about silo 19, I am not sure why the chromium-browser deps was removed ...15:55
jgdxkenvandine, done15:57
cjwatsonalex-abreu: ok, can we put it back then? :)15:59
popeyalex-abreu: did you see bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-webapps-gmail/+bug/133968616:00
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1339686 in unity-webapps-gmail (Ubuntu) "App fails to load, apparmor error on mako #119" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:01
alex-abreupopey, yes, its in Jamie's backyard, the apparmor profile needs to be updated16:01
popeyah okay.16:01
cwaynemardy_: hey, can we get a better icon for the google account-plugin? it looks lo-res and kinda fuzzy16:01
alex-abreupopey, not sure why it is only visible now, but oSoMoN_ found that it was while trying to access the localStorage16:01
alex-abreucwayne, mardy is off this week I think (holiday)16:02
kenvandinejgdx, thx16:02
cwaynealex-abreu: ah in that case, hey, can we get a better icon for the google account-plugin? it looks lo-res and kinda fuzzy :)16:02
timtjtimCan you have multiple apps open and running at the same time, i.e. even if they lose focus, they are still running?16:03
alex-abreucjwatson, pushed the update16:04
oSoMoN_popey, I marked the bug as duplicate of bug #1339724, as this is where I added my investigation16:05
ubot5bug 1339724 in The Webapps-core project "GMail app crashes on start up" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133972416:05
alex-abreuoSoMoN_, thx16:05
alex-abreucwayne, aha, ... well ... you might want to file a bug :)16:06
cwaynesure, which package?16:07
popeyjdstrand: /5016:08
alex-abreucwayne, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts ?16:08
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cjwatsonalex-abreu: OK, thanks, looks good; want me to rebuild the silo for you?16:13
cwaynealex-abreu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/+bug/133978516:14
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1339785 in ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "Google icon for provider is low-res, looks fuzzy on the phone" [Undecided,New]16:14
alex-abreucjwatson, that'd be great :)16:14
alex-abreucwayne, ok :)16:14
cjwatsonalex-abreu: urgh, any reason this MP has apparently never been top-approved?16:16
alex-abreucjwatson, not afaik16:17
cjwatsonalex-abreu: are you able to do that?16:18
alex-abreucjwatson, done16:19
cjwatsongreat, thanks16:19
cjwatsonbuilding now16:20
cjwatsoner, need more options, hang on16:20
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n-iCehello guys! are there any ubuntu touch apps done already?16:32
ogra_a few hundret16:33
n-iCewhere canI check them16:33
n-iCeis whatsapp ready?16:34
ogra_(there is no web UI for the stroe yet so that url is the closest you can get if you dont look on a phone)16:34
ogra_no whatsapp doesnt allow third parties to develop apps for their protocol anymore16:35
ogra_(they killed all opensrouice projects using it)16:35
ogra_whatsapp will only happen if facebook/whatsapp decides to write an app themselves16:35
infernixis ubuntu-touch suitable for all-in-one x86 systems with resistive|capacitive touch screens?16:36
K1773Rarmhf != x8616:37
popeywe have an x86 image which might work if it's intel based16:37
infernixi'm talking about apt-get install ubuntu-touch, and the generic framework. i'm building an image myself16:37
infernixi mean can it work, or am I barking up the wrong tree?16:38
n-iCeogra_: that's sad16:38
n-iCethat's the app I use the most16:38
infernixor is there a lot of arm only work done that isn't available in the x86 repos?16:39
popeyinfernix: its in the repo, sure16:39
K1773Rnvm me then, sry16:39
n-iCecould not find instagram either16:40
n-iCeanyway, I'm gonna flash it16:40
kenvandineElleo, bfiller: ignore the MP i just submitted for content-hub, i just want to get debs from CI16:40
infernixso it should work for any evdev supported touchscreen then? what WM is it using, unity?16:40
n-iCedo you actually guys use this rom as daily drive?16:42
ogra_infernix, well, try it out http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/... its a live image you should be able to run from USB stick16:43
infernixogra_: where's the build system for that?16:43
infernixare there sources to it?16:43
ogra_(not sure it is installable ... x86 isnt really in our focus atm)16:43
ogra_it uses the same build system all ubuntu images use ...16:44
popeyi installed it recently, seemed to install fine16:44
infernixoh, but that's just the testing desktop installer isn't it16:44
ogra_(which is a rather complex combo of cdimage, live-build, livecd-rootfs and debian-cd)16:44
ogra_infernix, thats ubuntu-touch for x8616:44
cjwatsonogra_: and launchpad-buildd :)16:44
ogra_it will become our next desktop eventually16:44
infernixyeah i know the drill. debian since 1996 here.16:44
ogra_oh, and launchpad-buildd :)16:45
infernixi see, i'll give it a shot on LTS first and see where I end up. i don't need a lot of features, just enough to have a touch supported kiosk device working16:46
infernixlooks like i'll have to pick what i need from the ubuntu-touch meta package. lxc is causing my kvm vm to hang after pivot_root16:52
cwaynehow come the indicator is now green, but the LED indicator bit is blue?16:53
infernixis there a specific display manager used? or just something like nodm/lightdm?16:54
dobeymir manages the display, if that's what you mean16:57
dobeycwayne: you're using ubuntu on a N5 right?16:58
cwaynei mean there was clearly a design change on the 'incoming' indicator16:58
dobeycwayne: does the backlight always stay on for you?16:58
cwayneused to turn blue, now turns green instead16:58
cwaynedobey: yea16:58
dobeyyeah, the suru theme changed all the indicators16:58
dobeyit being a bell now is also a bit weird16:59
dobeyi wonder why it's even shown if there are no messages under incoming, to show17:00
kenvandinejgdx, testing your branch on the device, it does change the tech preference but the ItemSelector keeps getting disabled17:01
kenvandinejgdx, ^^ that's the log17:01
maffo999hello room17:01
kenvandinein order to change it more than once, i have to navigate back and go in again17:01
maffo999is there anyone here that can help me troubleshoot a failed installation of ubuntu touch on my nexus 7 (razor) please?17:01
kenvandinejgdx, not sure why it keeps getting an empty TechnologyPreference17:02
kenvandineseb128, can you review my fixes in my MP?17:03
seb128kenvandine, done, approved17:04
kenvandineseb128, thx!17:04
seb128kenvandine, feel free to organize a landing if you want17:04
seb128or I can try to do that tomorrow17:04
kenvandinelets wait until tomorrow17:04
kenvandinemaybe we can get jgdx's branch in there too :)17:04
infernixstd::exception::what: Could not open hardware module. looks like Mir needs specific hardware support?17:04
kenvandineit works, mostly ;)17:05
infernixseems it is looking for /system/lib//system/lib/libhardware.so, which I obviously don't have on x86.17:05
seb128kenvandine, you are going to review that one?17:06
kenvandinethank you17:06
kenvandinepopey, when is ahayzen usually around?17:07
kenvandinepopey, i have a branch of content-hub that should help him with music-app17:07
kenvandinepopey, it's based on what i suggested in my email reply to him, but i haven't heard back17:08
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ogra_infernix, that is with the daily live image ?17:13
infernixno, looks like the ubuntu-touch metapackage really isn't suitable for generic x86. it's not in the daily live squashfs; i'll take a look at the squashfs rootfs and try to figure out how mir is supposed to run on x8617:14
ogra_there is a manifest file17:14
ogra_no need to dig in the squashfs17:15
infernixwell, there's a lot here that isn't in LTS17:17
infernixwould it even work on LTS at all?17:17
ogra_not sure ...17:18
ogra_x86 is currently more of a stepchild ... focus is on phones til the devices get released ...17:18
kenvandineElleo, https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/content-hub/content_item_move/+merge/22617317:19
kenvandineElleo, but lets not land it until we get feedback from ahayzen17:19
kenvandinepopey, ^^17:19
infernixso hm. maybe i need to approach this from a "x86-laptop-with-touchscreen" standpoint17:20
kenvandineElleo, this is an example that exercises the move lp:~ken-vandine/+junk/hub-importer-with-move17:21
john-mcaleelywhat should I capture to get the fine detail of a wifi access point? (stupid question probably). I have a handset which crashes for some wifi basestations, but no way to tell them apart in the phone UI17:26
kenvandineahayzen, hey... i was just looking for you :)17:31
ahayzenkenvandine, o/17:31
kenvandinethat implements the solution i had suggested in my email17:32
ahayzenkenvandine, i agree with that part of the solution ... however...17:32
ahayzenkenvandine, we only see what mediascanner2 has indexed17:32
kenvandinethat is something we can't deal with in content-hub though17:33
kenvandinewell, you see the incoming transfer though17:33
ahayzenkenvandine, therefore we wouldn't be able to make up a name to save it as from the metadata...because mediascanner2 has not indexed17:33
kenvandineand move it to the right directory17:33
kenvandinethat's ugly...17:33
ahayzenkenvandine, also we currently have no way, that we are aware of, of reloading the mediascanner2 models17:33
ahayzenkenvandine, so they have to be indexed in mediascanner2 *before* the app is launched17:34
kenvandinei guess what you need is a QML api to get the metadata from the file17:34
kenvandineinstead of relying on mediascanner17:34
jgdxkenvandine, hm, looking17:34
ahayzenkenvandine, well ideally if you could just tell mediascanner2... scan this file please and tell me the metadata17:34
kenvandineyeah, or something that returns the metadata17:35
kenvandinei'd assume you don't want mediascanner to keep it in it's index until it's moved17:35
ahayzenkenvandine, and if mediascanner2 had 'live' models (so that as things are added to the index they autoappear in the models like U1DB does) or a way to refresh the models17:35
kenvandineahayzen, so i think what i added to content-hub is the most we can do for the content exchange part of the process17:36
kenvandinebut there are clearly more problems to solve :/17:36
jgdxkenvandine, what does get tech pref in ofono scripts tell you? Empty as well?17:37
kenvandinejgdx, any17:37
ahayzenkenvandine, yeah we would just want the metadata of the file from mediascanner2... then we would move the file into ~/Music which would then be auto indexed by mediascanenr2.... then we would need to know when the index has completed and reload all our models (or ideally if they could be live somehow)17:37
kenvandinejgdx, it only does that when i change it17:37
rpadovanikenvandine, so, I spent ~4 hours on Bacon2D, and it's very awesome! Thanks to your examples (very useful!) I was able to do the clone of an Android game in ~3 hours. Totally awesome :-)17:38
kenvandinejgdx, so i change the tech pref, and it disables the ItemSelector17:38
ahayzenkenvandine, agreed that is probably as much as you can do from content-hub side... now mediascanner2 needs resolving/feature adding17:38
jgdxkenvandine, you change the tech pref from the UI17:38
kenvandinejgdx, and i can't change it again, if i back out and go back in, i can change it again17:38
kenvandinejgdx, yes17:38
ahayzenpopey, do you agreed with the solution? ^^17:38
kenvandinejgdx, to change it more than once, i have to bounce back and fourth :)17:39
kenvandinerpadovani, awesome!17:39
jgdxkenvandine, right :) I'll go bouldering and then take a look.17:39
kenvandinerpadovani, is your game in the store yet?17:39
kenvandinejgdx, cool, thx17:39
kenvandinejgdx, after lunch i'll do a more thorough code review17:39
kenvandinerpadovani, or is the code somewhere?17:40
ahayzenkenvandine, just one question how would the permissions/confinement work with this move() function?17:40
rpadovanikenvandine, nope, I have to do a bit of graphic and to implement the score, but the game itself is ready. I think I'll push it on GitHub in a couple of hours, then I'll notify you :-)17:40
ahayzenkenvandine, would we have to have write access to ~/Music or would content-hub allow this?17:40
kenvandineahayzen, the move runs in confinement17:40
kenvandineso it moves it from HubIncoming to whatever path you give it17:41
kenvandinebut it has to be a path your app has access to17:41
ahayzenkenvandine, ok understood17:41
kenvandineahayzen, it basically takes destPath (the target directory, not file) as an arg17:41
kenvandineand moves the file in ContentItem.url to that dir17:41
kenvandineif it's a local file17:41
ahayzenkenvandine, hmm so the filename.ext will remain the same?17:42
kenvandinerpadovani, great, i love seeing how people use it17:42
kenvandineahayzen, yes17:42
infernixogra_: well, ubuntu-desktop-next doesn't seem very stable under KVM. vmvga driver causes black screens, qxl driver seems to cause kernel panic. vga driver works, but user gets kicked out of session directly after login.17:42
kenvandinei guess you want to change that?17:42
ahayzenkenvandine, so we couldn't format it like ~/Music/Artist/Album/tracknum - title.ext ? ... or would we just leave the filename as it was before ...17:42
kenvandineleave the filename as it was before17:43
ahayzenkenvandine, idk i was just thinking aloud ;)17:43
rpadovanikenvandine, until now, in a very basic manner :-) The game is 100Balls, so it's something that you have in your examples, I had only to put all together :-)17:43
kenvandinei guess i could make move smarter...17:43
kenvandineif you give it a dir, keep the filename17:43
kenvandinebut if it isn't a dir... then rename the file17:43
kenvandineahayzen, actually, that won't work...17:43
ahayzenkenvandine, i'll have a chat with Victor when he is around and see if he agrees with the solution17:43
kenvandinedest won't exist... so i can't check it17:43
infernixunity-system-compositor seems to die with a "std::exception::what: assign: Operation not permitted"17:44
ogra_infernix, i think thats a known issue ... only works on real HW atm17:44
ahayzenkenvandine, hmmm ok i'll have a chat and see if we think we need to set the filename or not... could this not be an optional arg?17:44
infernixdefine real? what exactly does it need?17:44
kenvandineahayzen, so we'd have to require it to be a full path with filename as an arg, or a dir as an arg17:44
kenvandineahayzen, perhaps17:45
ogra_infernix, an intel, ati or nvidia card and either of the free drivers for them ...17:45
ogra_infernix, nope, all GLES17:45
kenvandineahayzen, so maybe move(dir,name) ?17:45
kenvandinewhere name is optional17:45
ogra_infernix, for details there is #ubuntu-mir ...17:45
ahayzenkenvandine, yeah that covers all possibilities?17:45
kenvandineElleo, what do you think of that?17:45
kenvandineahayzen, can you comment on the MP requesting that?17:46
ahayzenkenvandine, yep will do :)17:46
kenvandineahayzen, thx17:46
kenvandineahayzen, i wish i had ideas for getting that metadata for you...17:47
infernixogra_: thanks.17:47
ahayzenkenvandine, hah yeah...but even if we had it ... we still need to be able to reload the models somehow17:47
ahayzenkenvandine, commented, does that make sense?17:52
kenvandineahayzen, perfect17:55
ahayzenkenvandine, cool thanks for your help so far17:55
infernixogra_: so on real hardware the installer works but no onscreen keyboard shows up when selected18:04
ogra_sounds like a bug18:04
* ogra_ has never run touch on x86 yet :) 18:04
ogra_check if maliit-server is running ... thats the OSK18:05
ogra_(though i'm not sure at all if the installer doesnt actually use X ... it might)18:06
infernixdefinitely not runnign18:08
infernixX does run18:14
infernixi also accidentally toggled high contrast mode18:15
infernixand can't seem to turn it off. but might all just be installer woes.18:16
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rpadovanikenvandine, I have a lot of work to do before publish the app, (e.g, add levels, an end page etc etc) but the busic dinamycs of the game are ready :-) https://github.com/rpadovani/100balls18:32
kenvandinerpadovani, cool, i'll look at it :)18:40
gatox hi...  does anyone has any idea why when trying to build u-s-s on my desktop machine i get an error with #include <qpa/qplatformnativeinterface.h> ?18:44
kenvandinerpadovani, very nice!  i guess you'd prefer not needing to build bacon2d into your click package :)18:46
kenvandinerpadovani, you can look at pathwind to see how i build it in statically18:47
kenvandinerpadovani, at least until i convince someone it would be useful to include in the platform :-D18:47
kenvandinepmcgowan ^^18:47
kenvandinerpadovani, have you tried it on a device yet?18:50
kenvandinerpadovani, you could also do away with the MainView and the PageStack and use Game as your container18:52
kenvandinerpadovani, Game has a gameName property which is just like applicationName, so settings storage and all works well with confinement18:52
kenvandineand you could make your start page a scene, and just switch scenes18:53
kenvandinerpadovani, basically you could drop all ubuntu specific code and make your game work on android as well :)18:54
kenvandinethe only reason i used a MainView was for the orientation helper stuff18:55
kenvandinefor locking the orientation18:55
kenvandinerpadovani, my goal is to make sure bacon2d always works great on ubuntu, but also remains cross-platform, i think that's a very compelling argument for QML18:57
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infernixogra_: same problems on real hardware it seems.18:58
infernixneither guest session nor user session works. intel gpu.18:58
pmcgowankenvandine, you need to bribe ogra to add it to the seed ;)19:11
kenvandinepmcgowan, i can seed it... :)19:11
kenvandinepmcgowan, but then i'd get yelled at :)19:11
kenvandinewe're giving it a real 1.0 release on the 15th... then we'll keep a stable API19:13
rpadovanikenvandine, ok, thanks for the informations :-)19:13
kenvandinerpadovani, seriously, nice work!19:13
kenvandinerpadovani, just wanted to give you advice on how you could keep it cross-platform19:14
kenvandinepmcgowan: and it only exposes QML components, so nobody will be linking against it :-p19:15
rpadovanikenvandine, you're right :-)19:15
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rpadovanikenvandine, Could I suggest to improve documentation for scene.debug? You need to declare it only after the component is completed.. I was a bit confusing, I had Scene {debug: true}  and didn't work :-)19:17
pmcgowankenvandine, well we included similar things in the past that core apps used19:17
kenvandinerpadovani, really?19:18
kenvandinethat's a bug19:18
kenvandineplease file a bug about that19:18
rpadovanikenvandine, oh, ok. At least, on Utopic 64bit it is19:19
kenvandinei guess i tested it by toggling it to true with a button19:19
rpadovaniyes, and that's work19:19
kenvandineoh... i bet i know why...19:19
kenvandinei can fix it19:19
kenvandineit's because the box2d world isn't ready yet19:19
kenvandineeasy to fix.. .just please file a bug19:19
kenvandinerpadovani, i'll fix it tonight19:20
rpadovanicool :-)19:20
kenvandinerpadovani, for fun... you could take a look at my new showcase example, if you close my Bacon2D repo19:20
kenvandineand look at the examples branch19:20
kenvandineit's a gallery of the examples19:20
kenvandinewith a menu to switch between them, toggle debug in an overlay, etc19:21
* rpadovani goes to update the repo19:21
kenvandinei'm going to add links to the api docs and sources as well, like the ubuntu sdk gallery does19:21
taiebotHey all i have just confirmed Bug #132973919:45
ubot5bug 1329739 in gallery-app "Gallery application crashes when trying to delete all the pictures" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132973919:45
maffo999is there anybody here who got a spare 5 minutes to help me troubleshoot a failed ubuntu touch flash?19:48
rpadovanikenvandine, I don't undestand if is a bug or an expected behavior. If I set Game {scene: idScene} the center of the scene is in the center of the game, but if I use game.pushScene(idScene) the center of the scene is in 0,0 of the game19:53
kenvandinerpadovani, not sure... mind asking paulovap in #bacon2d?19:54
kenvandinei haven't played with the scene stacking code19:54
kenvandinethat landed while i was on holiday19:54
rpadovanido you have also a dedicated IRC channel? Coooool :-)19:54
kenvandinesounds like a bug though19:54
kenvandineyeah... most of the developers aren't ubuntu developers :)19:55
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kenvandinerobru, i'm not jumping up and down to fix it... but in testing that i did notice if you try to post a single word with friends-app and you have added a space at the end of what you typed, it tries to post an empty message21:13
kenvandinelike the OSK isn't done entering the word21:13
robrukenvandine, ... what?21:14
kenvandinei guess the textarea doesn't know what the value of text is until the OSK is done21:14
kenvandineso try to post21:14
kenvandinebut type a single word21:14
kenvandineand don't add a space at the end21:14
robrukenvandine, that sounds like an OSK bug? not sure how friends can fix/workaround that21:14
kenvandinerobru, yeah... not sure where21:15
kenvandinenot friends21:15
kenvandinefriends could refuse to try to post if message is empty though :)21:15
robrukenvandine, that does make sense...21:15
kenvandinei don't think this used to behave this way21:16
kenvandineso maybe OSK changes21:16
kenvandinei've tested many times with "test"21:16
robrukenvandine, dunno, I never tried to post one word before... ;-)21:16
* kenvandine is lazy...21:16
pmcgowankenvandine, thats related to the word completion stuff, I thought we fixed that21:18
pmcgowanElleo might remember21:18
kenvandinewe could handle that in friends, but shouldn't need to21:19
pmcgowansounds familiar21:19
pmcgowankenvandine, robru https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-keyboard/+bug/130599921:20
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1305999 in ubuntu-keyboard "Autocomplete doesn't commit text to input field." [Undecided,Incomplete]21:20
kenvandinewe should fix that :)21:21
pmcgowanI assigned the bug and marked confirmed21:22
robruwow that bug is from april... how many promoted images had this bug? yikes21:22
pmcgowanit got worked around in messaging21:22
kenvandinepmcgowan, thx!21:22
pmcgowanand sil never replied on it21:22
kenvandinethat will bite other apps21:22
kenvandineit's never what an app developer expects21:22
derek-gwhen is ubuntu phone going to come out?21:38
popey devices later this year21:38
derek-gpopey, but how much later???21:39
derek-gpopey, im dying from old ages....21:39
popeycan't say, not my department ☻21:39
derek-gpopey, any decade now21:39
derek-gpopey, meanwhile I keep holding off from buying a new android - cuz i hate googl soo much. :)21:40
popeyyeah, I have been holding off buying a new phone too21:41
popeybut I will totally buy the first ubuntu phone that comes out21:41
derek-gpopey, hell yeah.21:42
derek-gderek-g, me an my cousin too...21:42
derek-gI can't take it any longer. i'm gonna freeze myself until ubuntu phone comes out. don't forget to unfreeze me guys.21:49
popeyRoger Roger!21:49
matv1popey on that note though: will the nexus devices be abandoned as reference devices once bq meizu devices are finalysed?21:51
otherjonhi ubuntu-touch team -- thanks for all your hard work so far22:18
otherjonhaving a problem with bluetooth on Nexus 7 LTE22:18
otherjondaemon dying nearly-instantly, messages in kern.log (details available on request)22:18
otherjonanyone around who can help me figure out what's going on?22:18
otherjoncan anyone help me investigate an ubuntu-touch bluetooth issue?  daemon dying nearly-instantly, messages in kern.log available on request22:58
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