=== salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem === psivaa_ is now known as psivaa-off === ycheng-afk is now known as ycheng === _salem is now known as salem_ [01:43] !iphone [01:43] For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod === vying is now known as Guest95457 [02:09] hey [02:10] does anyone know of issues that might arise from using a VM for ubuntu 14.04 and installing touch on a nexus 4 === salem_ is now known as _salem [02:17] Hey, I'm running on a nexus 5 and outgoing and incoming phone calls work just fine, but sms does not. Can anyone point me in the right direction to fix this? === jh2os is now known as jh2os_ [02:43] Hello === ycheng is now known as ycheng-brb [04:16] morning [04:19] where did all touch apps go that not fit in 'top' apps? [04:41] hi [07:05] good morning [07:11] good morning dholbach [07:12] dholbach, any chance you could take a look at and ack some packaging changes in oxide to allow us to land silo 4 ? [07:12] salut oSoMoN [07:12] changes are there: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7769054/ , they need approval from a core dev [07:12] oSoMoN, I'm not sure I'm the best person, but I can take a look - do you have a link? [07:13] the changes are really minor, but the process requires this core-dev ack [07:14] Hi there [07:14] oSoMoN, +1 [07:14] thanks dholbach [07:14] oSoMoN, the changes are basically a no-op [07:14] yup, from the packaging standpoint they are [07:15] too bad the previous upload didn't get integrated, but it was a ~no-op upload too [07:15] can the process be changed to make ~no-op changes easier to get done? [07:15] oSoMoN: is there nowadays packaging that lives somewhere else than Chris's computer? we could preserve the history for the next upoad? [07:15] Mirv, I’ve asked Chris where the utopic packaging branch lives, and I’ll fix the changelog there, so that with the next upload we’ll get it back [07:16] dholbach: no, it's the deal that non-coredev trainguards can do publishing. all packaging changes need to be acked, even if they are seemingly no-op. [07:16] oSoMoN: thanks! [07:17] ok [07:17] dholbach, thanks! [07:57] Could linux-firmware-nexus7 and perhaps linux-firmware-grouper be removed from the archive? [07:58] the former has been superseeded by the latter [07:58] and we no longer build grouper images anyway === yofel_ is now known as yofel [08:27] hello all [08:28] Noskcaj, ask in #ubuntu-release ... these packages are not touch specific [08:28] so on a freshly installed phone, I ran [08:28] phablet-click-test-setup --click com.ubuntu.music [08:28] then: [08:28] phablet-test-run -v music_app.tests.test_music.TestMainWindow.test_create_playlist_from_songs_tab [08:28] sh: 1: /usr/bin/python: not found [08:28] what am I doing wrong? [08:28] where did your phablet-test-run come from? [08:29] bzr branch lp:phablet-tools [08:29] hm. [08:29] I just pulled, but no changes to these scripts [08:29] i have seen that in the past myself, need to poke a qa person [08:30] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing#Running_Click_tests ... did you run phablet-config-autopilot ? [08:30] * pitti runs it with -x, but that's the command that Victor used in bug 1338935 [08:30] bug 1338935 in Ubuntu Music App "test_create_playlist_from_songs_tab test fails on phone: ToolkitException: No actions in overflow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1338935 [08:30] (though not sure why that would switch the python version) [08:30] ogra_: you mean disable the first-time wizards, aa-clicksetup, etc? yes (that's already done) [08:31] + adb shell cd /home/phablet/autopilot; /usr/bin/python3 -c 'import music_app.tests.test_music.TestMainWindow.test_create_playlist_from_songs_tab' [08:31] + import_error=The ubuntuuitoolkit.emulators module is deprecated. Import the autopilot helpers from the top-level ubuntuuitoolkit module. [08:31] then it falls back to trying python2, which isn't installed and causes that error (but that's fine, we want to use py3) [08:31] yeah, i think thats normal [08:31] (the import error) [08:32] ah, so just "./phablet-test-run -v music_app" works [08:32] so, weird that http://paste.ubuntu.com/7767875/ worked for Victor [08:33] anyway, thanks [08:59] ogra_, do not bring up the match today in the standup [09:01] lol [09:03] mandel, haha ... can you see www.google.de outside of germany ? [09:03] ogra_: hehe, yes apparently [09:03] ogra_, cute [09:03] hehe [09:03] :) [09:10] ogra_, I hate armhf => http://paste.ubuntu.com/7769426/ [09:11] oh man [09:14] ogra_, looks like a bad bug [09:14] ogra_, getting the glib sources to see exactly what is going on [09:27] ogra_, ***** I have to debug assembly I have not done in YEARS! [09:27] hahaha [09:27] why is it using assembly at all ... [09:27] it should use gcc atoms [09:28] ogra_, a headache anyway.. [09:28] ogra_, I need to do a workaround not to hit that hehe [09:28] * mandel does not want to deal with this right now [09:29] well, and file a bug === ycheng-brb is now known as ycheng-afk [09:36] Good morning all; happy Sugar Cookie Day! :-D [09:46] hi, I'm unable to set up my dev environment with ubuntu 13.10 x86_64; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting [09:46] i get tons of errors related to libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 : Depends: libdrm-intel1:i386 (>= 2.4.38) but it is not going to be installed i386 packages [09:46] is it because ia32-libs seems to be missing lately for whatever reason [09:51] ia32-libs was turned into a transitional package two years ago i think, when multiarch support became the default [09:53] you can try adding the packages it complains about to the list (with the :i386 attached to their name) [09:55] uhh, libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 : Depends: libdrm2:i386 (>= 2.3.1) but it is not going to be installed [09:55] it just cascades into dependency hell, i'm pretty sure i can't add them all manually :f [09:55] oh might be one of the ppas i added conflicting [09:56] you did do: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 ... and sudo apt-get update ? ... before you started ? [09:56] yep, I did that. === ryukafalz is now known as jfrederickson === jfrederickson is now known as ryukafalz === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:37] is gmail web app not starting since since latest landed image a known issue? [11:37] at least on mako [11:41] hey there [11:42] I just sent a message to the canonical team using the web form...would like to get contacted by them asap [11:42] is someone from the official team connected here ? [11:45] meaning: wassup? [11:45] ogra_, do you know what was the last image with qt 5.2? [11:45] 87 i think [11:46] not from the top of my head ... somewhere around 90 [11:46] yeah, 87 might be correct [11:46] check the changelogs ;) [11:46] ogra_, thx [11:46] 91 was the first with 5.3 [11:46] ogra_, well, I'm going to have a headache with this... [11:46] http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/91.changes [11:46] ogra_, popey have you guys seens qt apps failing/crashing for not known reason? [11:46] since 91 I mean [11:47] not really [11:47] no more or less than usual [11:47] yeah [11:47] [11:48] i am seeing gmail web app crashing though :) known issue? [11:48] matv1: just about to try [11:48] ogra_: i have had two crashes today on my promoted phone [11:48] oh ? [11:48] what crashed ? [11:49] not sure, didnt reboot, went back to the spinning logo [11:49] no crash files [11:49] just tried to install gmail webapp, also crashed [11:49] popey i am getting: error opening shm /lttng-ust-wait-5-32011 (in get_wait_shm() at lttng-ust--comm.c:886)) [11:49] so unity /mir or something [11:49] matv1: ignorte that [11:49] okay [11:50] popey, so I'm getting the following bt => http://paste.ubuntu.com/7769878/ [11:50] popey, if you get the animation then at least the system-compositor crashed ... or even worse lightdm did [11:50] popey, that is in the middle of the event processing of the QEventLoop [11:50] root 1300 0.0 0.1 33432 2700 ? Ssl 11:28 0:00 lightdm [11:50] doesnt look like lightdm [11:50] so.. we could have an issue there.. [11:51] root 1311 0.5 0.8 162864 16812 ? Sl 11:28 0:25 unity-system-compositor --spinner=/usr/bin/unity-system-compositor-spinner --file /run/mir_socket --from-dm-fd 10 --to-dm-fd 13 --vt 1 [11:51] not that either [11:51] unity died [11:52] i get a blank window in gmail [11:52] [Wed Jul 9 12:51:43 2014] type=1400 audit(1404906704.714:127): apparmor="DENIED" operation="file_receive" profile="com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-gmail_webapp-gmail_1.0.12//oxide_helper" name="/home/phablet/.local/share/com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-gmail/databases/https_mail.google.com_0/1" pid=5544 comm="Chrome_ChildIOT" requested_mask="rw" denied_mask="rw" fsuid=32011 ouid=32011 [11:52] popey yes same here [11:52] popey hey :) [11:52] popey, right, i get that always if the session restarted ... you get a grey app window, if you kill it and start the app again it is fine [11:52] are you from canonical ? [11:53] meaning: yes, as are others here [11:54] popey, i think the app didnt really get killed with the session ... so it stays SIGSTOPed in background and if you fire it up in the new session the sleeping app treis to get respawned [11:54] we either need to make sure the session really tears down all the apps or ricmm needs to invent fancy stuff for the app lifecycle to update the app env [11:54] ogra_: are you talking about the gmail fail? [11:54] yeah [11:55] no, i hadn't started gmail [11:55] i literally just installed it [11:55] well, about the issue that alll apps that were running in the former sessioon turn up grey [11:55] and then ran it [11:55] not grey [11:55] it opens, get a toolbar [11:55] oh [11:55] ogra i think gmail is a different issue [11:55] but nothing renders, see apparmor denial above [11:56] I'll file a bug [11:56] popey okay thx [11:58] matv1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-webapps-gmail/+bug/1339686 [11:58] Ubuntu bug 1339686 in unity-webapps-gmail (Ubuntu) "App fails to load, apparmor error on mako #119" [Undecided,New] [11:58] can you confirm that bug please? [12:00] done [12:00] thanks [12:00] will chase it up later when relavent people wake up [12:01] great! quick other question popey. trojita email client [12:01] can it be built yet? [12:01] yes. [12:01] i mean somewhat usefully [12:01] also, look in the store at dekko [12:01] which is a preview of what it may look like. [12:01] DanChapman is the guy who maintains dekko [12:02] ah okay it will look at it. thanks [12:02] np === pete-woods is now known as pete-woods-lunch === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:09] I just did a ubuntu-touch/utopic-proposed [12:10] and now my nexus4 is stuck showing only the Google logo [12:10] adb shell gives me BusyBox, and trying to re-flash it with ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/utopic-proposed says this: [12:10] 2014/07/09 14:09:42 Expecting the device to expose an adb interface... [12:10] 2014/07/09 14:09:42 Device is |/system/bin/sh: getprop: not found| [12:10] 2014/07/09 14:09:42 Device /system/bin/sh: getprop: not found not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel ubuntu-touch/utopic-proposed [12:10] any ideas what may be wrong here? [12:11] < t1mp> I just did a ubuntu-touch/utopic-proposed [12:11] t1mp: I don't have ideas how it does end up in those situations, but you could --wipe --bootstrap flash after adb reboot-bootloader [12:11] * < t1mp> I just did an ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/utopic-proposed [12:11] Mirv: ok, trying that, thanks [12:11] at times, I've also had a situation where I only get the google logo, and sometimes there's no reason I can think of [12:12] * t1mp re-flashing image 122 [12:13] weird, 2014/07/09 14:12:23 Get https://system-image.ubuntu.com/pool/ubuntu-4ebb49eb5f1814477b9c604a7c9bd2a68457f6c3f6ab190607fd6f8381c7839c.tar.xz.asc: EOF [12:13] on 2nd attempt it is downloading the image === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [12:57] jdstrand, seb128: ping [13:14] seb128, my settings branch should be in good shape now [13:14] kenvandine, hey, saw that jenkins was happy, thanks [13:15] nik90_, oh, contentless ping btw, you might want to ask a question if you want a reply [13:15] pmcgowan, ^^ i fixed up the cellular plugin [13:15] seb128: sry, I forgot [13:16] seb128: hey I am using the QT FolderListModel to display the /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/ringtones folder in the clock app. On the desktop it works fine..but on the phone it turns up empty [13:16] seb128: I dont see any errors [13:16] seb128: How are you showing it in the system settings app? [13:16] kenvandine, great, are we ready to land? [13:17] once the review is complete === pete-woods-lunch is now known as pete-woods [13:19] nik90_, settings are not confined [13:19] seb128: but I am only reading it which I thought I could do without any permission issues [13:20] could be, I don't know then [13:20] seb128: thnx. will check with jdstrand if it could be permission issue [13:21] nik90_, check the apparmor log for DENY lines? [13:21] seb128: will do [13:26] kenvandine, do you work with jgdxx? [13:27] kenvandine, could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/1211804-allow-technology-preference/+merge/226125 (not sure if that conflicts with your changes or not) [13:29] seb128, looks like he merged my latest changes in a few hours ago [13:29] great [13:29] actually, just minutes ago [13:29] review is still welcome if you want to do one ;-) [13:30] please do kenvandine :) === jgdxx is now known as jgdx [13:30] kenvandine, did you run the cellular tests testing the operator stuff? That failed for me the last time I tried. [13:30] ss landings woot [13:30] that's what i fixed last night [13:31] jgdx, looks like we never really made sure the cellular panel worked :) [13:31] i was focused on the phone one [13:31] but... what's in the current image doesn't work for me either :) [13:31] it never lists operators [13:31] but it passes the tests [13:32] my branch lists operators and ever registers :) [13:32] kenvandine, I remember now I just switched to the tmobile sim which gave me no signal, so I didnt notice no operators [13:32] kenvandine, see, tests are good, they made you fix things! [13:32] seb128, indeed... i'm thankful! === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:34] jgdx, so with libqofono we can change the technology preference? [13:35] woot... it looks like it does [13:35] ofono-qt didn't let you [13:35] kenvandine, with my branch it works great! [13:35] at least last i looked [13:35] (and of course your branch) [13:36] seb128, btw... now that hotspot landed, with showAllUI enabled the cellular panel doesn't fit on the page [13:36] and doesn't scroll [13:36] s/scroll/flick/ [13:37] must be that contentHeight hack we love so much :) [13:37] jgdx, with your branch, does it fit? [13:37] kenvandine, on my mako, my branch fits [13:37] cool [13:37] kenvandine, :/ [13:37] kenvandine, what to fix that? [13:38] i'm curious why... for sure [13:38] kenvandine, I don't have hotspots though [13:38] maybe we have some bad calculation somewhere for contentHeight [13:40] seb128, actually, the cellular panel doesn't have that hack [13:40] so maybe it's a simple fix [13:40] might just need to add a height somewhere [13:41] kenvandine, want to have a look before we land that work? [13:41] yeah [13:42] seb128, has all the bits for hotspot landed? [13:42] kenvandine, yes [13:42] it's hidden by default though [13:42] should it work? [13:42] :-D [13:42] so not important to fix [13:42] didn't work for me [13:42] I think it's hidden because it doesn't [13:42] there is some kernel bug on the n4 [13:42] ah === sforshee` is now known as sforshee === Noskcaj_ is now known as Noskcaj === daker_ is now known as daker === Zic_ is now known as Zic [13:55] seb128, jgdx: i just had to put it in a Flickable [13:56] that makes sense === DanChapman_afk is now known as DanChapman [13:57] pushed [13:57] jgdx, merge from my branch again [14:03] kenvandine, ack [14:05] pitti, I'm getting sporadic "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoServer: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-NWycDXXzTP: Connection refused" with this code, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7770380/ [14:05] pitti, could you give me a hint as to how crazy wrong that is? :) [14:06] Saviq: davmor2: my welcome screen locked up again on my main phone, is there some magic fu to unblock it? [14:06] popey, other than killing unity8, no [14:06] popey, you could try and collect some data, though [14:06] sure [14:06] popey, maybe `pkill -SIGSEGV unity8` to fake a crash [14:06] what do you need? [14:07] popey: restart the phone, apport-bug --hanging `pidof unity8` [14:07] Saviq: you're a bad bad man ;) [14:07] davmor2, I just hope apport will pick it up ;P [14:07] Saviq: hahaha [14:08] no, apport-bug is broken [14:08] jgdx: looks alright at first sight; do you have something runnable for reproducing? [14:08] popey: FYI, bug 1339663 [14:08] bug 1339663 in apport (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-bug fails with "whoopsie-upload-all: error: unrecognized arguments" when /var/lib/apport/autoreport exists" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1339663 [14:08] pitti, lp:~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/1297418-apply-new-designs-to-background-panel [14:08] bug 1336685 [14:08] popey: jibel told me today and filed that [14:08] bug 1336685 in apport (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-bug runs whoopsie-upload-all, can't file bugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1336685 [14:08] Saviq: would it be easy if there was a nice tb, yes, will you get one then, no ;) [14:08] oh, heh [14:08] pitti, sleep(2) after spawn_server seems to solve it, but I notice that you don't sleep when using templates. [14:09] davmor2, probably not [14:09] jgdx: right, and spawn_server() waits until the bus name appears on the bus [14:10] pitti: is anyone working on fixing that? [14:10] popey: I will, but I just got to know it like 2 hours ago [14:10] oh ☹ [14:10] popey: in the meantime, use apport-cli instead of ubuntu-bug [14:11] does apport-cli do the same as Saviq said above? [14:11] apport-cli --hanging `pidof unity8` [14:11] ? [14:11] popey, yeah, it does [14:22] After the problem report has been sent, please fill out the form in the [14:22] automatically opened web browser. [14:22] it lied [14:22] no browser opened [14:22] popey: do you see a link in the terminal? [14:22] no [14:23] :( [14:23] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7770441/ [14:25] popey: yeah that is similar to what I got [14:25] jgdx, after you merge my branch, be sure to push so we get builds from jenkins [14:25] i'd like to snag some debs to test it [14:26] jgdx, your branch that is [14:26] Saviq: no good there I guess popey's report is 147kb [14:27] davmor2, yeah :| [14:27] jgdx, i'd rather not do another armhf build of uss :) [14:27] * kenvandine has been spending way to much time build packages for that lately [14:37] * jgdx too [14:37] kenvandine, I'm just running one test on the phone, then merge+push [14:37] jgdx, thx === pitti is now known as pitti_ [14:52] kenvandine, pushed [14:52] thx [14:52] jgdx, i'll watch for CI builds [14:53] seb128, I included mock backgrounds in the system settings package (if that's ok) but the install paths of uss differs. Any suggestions on how to deal with that? [14:56] jppiiroi1en, why did you include them in the settings package and not the autopilot one? what do you mean differs, between what and what? === mbm is now known as [mbm] [15:13] seb128, i think that was meant for jgdx === pitti is now known as pitti__ [15:21] robru, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/libfriends/lp1194211/+merge/226155 === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [15:27] seb128, right. Good point. [15:27] mardy_: Did you notice that silo 19 is stuck in -proposed? The problem is that the build-dependency on chromium-browser was dropped, so unity-chromium-extension now builds on all architectures even though it won't be installable on architectures that lack it [15:28] mardy_: Any chance we could put that build-dep back and rebuild/republish that silo? (Or a build-dep on webbrowser-app would probably do too, if that's lighter-weight) [15:28] mardy_: It'd then just need an archive admin to remove the stale binaries from -proposed (which I can do after the silo is republished) [15:36] jgdx, can you also add a description and commit message to that MP [15:36] * kenvandine wonders when CI will run... [15:39] Does anybody know why switching off GPS and location-service isn't permanent on the mako (N4)? [15:42] MacSlow, its a bug [15:42] once the actual location service lands this should be fixed [15:43] ogra_, ah ok... thx [15:46] bfiller, we have another branch from Elleo to add to your list of branches to land [15:46] https://code.launchpad.net/~michael-sheldon/content-hub/peer-picker-cleanup/+merge/226127 [15:52] kenvandine: ack [15:55] cjwatson, about silo 19, I am not sure why the chromium-browser deps was removed ... [15:55] mmmh [15:57] kenvandine, done [15:59] alex-abreu: ok, can we put it back then? :) [16:00] alex-abreu: did you see bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-webapps-gmail/+bug/1339686 [16:01] Ubuntu bug 1339686 in unity-webapps-gmail (Ubuntu) "App fails to load, apparmor error on mako #119" [Undecided,Confirmed] [16:01] popey, yes, its in Jamie's backyard, the apparmor profile needs to be updated [16:01] ah okay. [16:01] mardy_: hey, can we get a better icon for the google account-plugin? it looks lo-res and kinda fuzzy [16:01] popey, not sure why it is only visible now, but oSoMoN_ found that it was while trying to access the localStorage [16:02] cwayne, mardy is off this week I think (holiday) [16:02] jgdx, thx [16:02] alex-abreu: ah in that case, hey, can we get a better icon for the google account-plugin? it looks lo-res and kinda fuzzy :) [16:03] Can you have multiple apps open and running at the same time, i.e. even if they lose focus, they are still running? [16:04] cjwatson, pushed the update [16:05] popey, I marked the bug as duplicate of bug #1339724, as this is where I added my investigation [16:05] bug 1339724 in The Webapps-core project "GMail app crashes on start up" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1339724 [16:05] oSoMoN_, thx [16:06] cwayne, aha, ... well ... you might want to file a bug :) [16:07] sure, which package? [16:08] jdstrand: /50 [16:08] bah! [16:08] cwayne, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts ? === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN [16:13] alex-abreu: OK, thanks, looks good; want me to rebuild the silo for you? [16:14] alex-abreu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/+bug/1339785 [16:14] Ubuntu bug 1339785 in ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "Google icon for provider is low-res, looks fuzzy on the phone" [Undecided,New] [16:14] cjwatson, that'd be great :) [16:14] cwayne, ok :) [16:16] alex-abreu: urgh, any reason this MP has apparently never been top-approved? [16:17] cjwatson, not afaik [16:18] alex-abreu: are you able to do that? [16:19] cjwatson, done [16:19] great, thanks [16:20] building now [16:20] er, need more options, hang on === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [16:32] hello guys! are there any ubuntu touch apps done already? [16:33] a few hundret [16:33] really? [16:33] where canI check them [16:33] http://developer.ubuntu.com/pioneers [16:34] is whatsapp ready? [16:34] (there is no web UI for the stroe yet so that url is the closest you can get if you dont look on a phone) [16:35] no whatsapp doesnt allow third parties to develop apps for their protocol anymore [16:35] (they killed all opensrouice projects using it) [16:35] whatsapp will only happen if facebook/whatsapp decides to write an app themselves [16:36] is ubuntu-touch suitable for all-in-one x86 systems with resistive|capacitive touch screens? [16:37] armhf != x86 [16:37] we have an x86 image which might work if it's intel based [16:37] i'm talking about apt-get install ubuntu-touch, and the generic framework. i'm building an image myself [16:38] i mean can it work, or am I barking up the wrong tree? [16:38] ogra_: that's sad [16:38] that's the app I use the most [16:39] or is there a lot of arm only work done that isn't available in the x86 repos? [16:39] infernix: its in the repo, sure [16:39] nvm me then, sry [16:40] could not find instagram either [16:40] anyway, I'm gonna flash it [16:40] Elleo, bfiller: ignore the MP i just submitted for content-hub, i just want to get debs from CI [16:40] so it should work for any evdev supported touchscreen then? what WM is it using, unity? [16:42] do you actually guys use this rom as daily drive? [16:43] infernix, well, try it out http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/... its a live image you should be able to run from USB stick [16:43] ogra_: where's the build system for that? [16:43] are there sources to it? [16:43] (not sure it is installable ... x86 isnt really in our focus atm) [16:44] it uses the same build system all ubuntu images use ... [16:44] i installed it recently, seemed to install fine [16:44] oh, but that's just the testing desktop installer isn't it [16:44] (which is a rather complex combo of cdimage, live-build, livecd-rootfs and debian-cd) [16:44] infernix, thats ubuntu-touch for x86 [16:44] ogra_: and launchpad-buildd :) [16:44] it will become our next desktop eventually [16:44] yeah i know the drill. debian since 1996 here. [16:45] oh, and launchpad-buildd :) [16:46] i see, i'll give it a shot on LTS first and see where I end up. i don't need a lot of features, just enough to have a touch supported kiosk device working [16:52] looks like i'll have to pick what i need from the ubuntu-touch meta package. lxc is causing my kvm vm to hang after pivot_root [16:53] how come the indicator is now green, but the LED indicator bit is blue? [16:54] is there a specific display manager used? or just something like nodm/lightdm? [16:57] mir manages the display, if that's what you mean [16:58]