[06:06] <MooDoo> hello all
[06:07] <Myrtti> mornin
[06:40] <MooDoo> wow flacky internet at home this morning :(
[06:44] <Myrtti> oh man... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28223150
[06:45] <MartijnVdS> yeah.. it's hard to backdoor an uncharged device
[06:54] <MooDoo> more ways of affecting the public.
[07:25] <SuperMatt> I'll be honest, I think if the authorities want to be able to access your device, they'll just take your device and plug it in
[07:25] <MooDoo> they can have mine, as long as they don't mind seeing pics of my kids or cats.
[07:26] <SuperMatt> I can imagine it'll be frustrating for people who need to take a laptop abroad that doesn't hold its charge
[07:27] <MooDoo> I think they will check it before you get on then that's in....madness sheer madness
[07:33] <SuperMatt> oh yay, we no support centos 7 without any training in systemd \o/
[07:34] <MooDoo> so get training then
[07:35] <SuperMatt> oh, and there's firewalld to learn as well
[07:35] <SuperMatt> I'm so happy right now
[07:35] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: come on your rhce, it's a breeze for you to learn
[07:42] <SuperMatt> I was *rhcsa* but that has expired now
[07:43] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: you redoing it, it's omething I'm working too
[07:43] <SuperMatt> nope
[07:43] <MooDoo> oh ok
[07:43] <SuperMatt> there's no call for people to do it here
[07:43] <SuperMatt> once you're in, it's just a piece of paper
[07:43] <popey> Morning!
[07:43] <MooDoo> really?  ah right, thought rhce was a requirement.
[07:43] <MooDoo> morning popey
[07:44] <SuperMatt> some of the teams might have it as a requirement, I guess
[07:45] <SuperMatt> especially if you're working in enterprise
[07:45] <MooDoo> ah ok :D
[07:55] <popey> TheOpenSourcerer: having fun with leaflet?
[07:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> :-D
[07:56] <TheOpenSourcerer> Rebuilt a map app in a few hours.
[07:56] <TheOpenSourcerer> Swapped Google for OSM & LeafletJS
[07:56] <TheOpenSourcerer> Piece of pie ;-)
[08:06] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:19] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon
[08:20] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[08:27] <foobarry> how much has changed since rhce5 though tbh. upstart is going away too.
[08:29] <foobarry> is centos7 64bit only?
[08:29] <foobarry> maybe i386 come later when the build servers stop chugging
[08:35] <MooDoo> foobarry: yes it's 64bit only
[08:37] <MooDoo> foobarry: http://pastebin.com/MbL8GZMh
[08:37] <MooDoo> it's RHEL, but read it as CentOS as well
[08:39] <foobarry> interesting
[08:39] <TwistedLucidity> This is weird. "host <ip>" and "dig -x <ip>" both work and I can see the name in the answer section. "dig <name>" doesn't. I see the authority section, but no answer. :-S
[08:40] <TwistedLucidity> Annndd....good morning
[08:40] <foobarry> is one result cached?
[08:40] <TwistedLucidity> Might be up on the DNS server I guess.
[08:40] <TwistedLucidity> But if it has and ip/name entry, why not just return it?
[08:42] <foobarry> gives new meaning to the words ticket mountain. http://imgur.com/CmLuvLJ
[08:43] <TwistedLucidity> Only 35? That's not many
[08:43] <MooDoo> +1
[08:51] <foobarry> new ticket system
[08:52] <foobarry> also, we have intelligent users. most tickets are generally software compilation, packaging issues rather than "printer is broke" (which go to main helpdesk)
[08:54] <foobarry> some tickets are taking longer than a week to resolve, which means, input > output ..
[09:02] <foobarry> centos installer has got a bit nicer
[09:15] <MooDoo> foobarry: shame no current inplace upgrade from 6.5 to 7
[09:15] <TwistedLucidity> Hmm...there's a bunch of servers and vm guests with the strange asymmetric "dig" behaviour. Someone, somewhere, has messed up.
[09:15]  * TwistedLucidity hops it wasn't him
[09:16] <TwistedLucidity> *hopes
[09:16] <MooDoo> duh duh durrrrrrr :)
[09:36] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Sugar Cookie Day! :-D
[09:44] <BigRedS_> sugar cookie day? really?
[09:48] <foobarry> hard freeze during centos install :(
[10:01] <JamesTait> BigRedS, it's on the internet, it must be true. ;)
[10:19] <foobarry> after 6 weeks of trying, caught a mouse in the trap ye3steday
[10:19] <foobarry> had to kill it. felt sick
[10:22] <awilkins> When I has squirrels I fancied a Ratzapper 2000
[10:22] <awilkins> *had
[10:22] <awilkins> I had to make do with a cage trap. Offing them was also pretty nerve wracking
[10:41] <DJones> foobarry: I'd lend you a dog, but I don't think my parents would be too happy, one of theirs chases and catches mice, then proceeds to eat them and then sick it up a couple of hours later
[10:43] <foobarry> i have a ratter type dog
[10:44] <foobarry> she seemed uninsterested, which is weird for her
[10:44] <DJones> foobarry: This is a collie, should be chasing sheep, not mice
[10:45] <foobarry> if the mouse is in the garden she tries to catch
[10:46] <foobarry> she chases squirrels
[10:46] <foobarry> if she saw the mouse scuttling across the floor maybe
[10:46] <foobarry> she hates the meerkat toys
[10:46] <foobarry> had to hide them instantly
[11:04] <foobarry> bioshock in latest humble (windows) bundle
[11:27] <foobarry> would you buy a storage device from this vendor? Mirror drives not read if there is a failed drive in a RAID 1 volume with more than 2 drives
[13:06] <foobarry> shhh
[14:14] <foobarry_> looks at topic. i don't think this chan is friendly to dogs.
[14:17] <awilkins> That's because dogs are rubbish. They require your attention or they get all miserable.
[14:18] <foobarry> reports awilkins to the dog police
[14:18] <davmor2> foobarry: get a tiger you won't have any mice
[14:19] <foobarry> can you guarantee that davmor2 ?
[14:20] <diddledan> I've got some elephant-repellent
[14:20] <davmor2> foobarry: I can guarantee that no mammal living will be alive with a tiger in the place ;)
[14:21] <diddledan> I've not seen any elephants around here ever since I started using it
[14:26] <awilkins> davmor2, The tiger is a mammal
[14:27] <davmor2> awilkins: and after it eats everything it will starve to death, proving my point :P
[14:28] <davmor2> diddledan: I bet you've been using Eagle repellent too right,  I've not seen many of those round here for a while :)
[14:28] <foobarry> depends if it learns how to use the internet
[14:28] <foobarry> and gets sainssburys to deliver
[14:28] <diddledan> there's plenty of red kites around here tho
[14:29] <davmor2> foobarry: or meals on wheels, or kids on bike, skateboards and heelies as they are otherwise known :)
[14:29] <diddledan> kids on bikes make a good meal
[14:30] <davmor2> diddledan: plenty of muscle and they won't out cycle the tiger :)
[14:30] <foobarry> funny to see gnome3 type stuff on centos
[14:41] <Guest29381> hi
[14:41] <Guest29381> i need some help getting wifi driver compiled exit error code 2 . ok, the wifi was auto picked up and active but wouldnt connect. search found this:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/852190Ubuntu bug 852190 in linux (Ubuntu) "7392:7811 Edimax EW-7811Un USB dongle won't connect to networks (rtl8192cu module)" [Medium,Incomplete] so i tried to modprobe,reboot, etc and now im trying to compile the linux driver on the disc th
[14:41] <Guest29381> at came with it.  the pc is an rm all in one dual core with plenty of resources, running lubuntu 12.04. the wifi i try to connect to is open, i also set up my phone as an access point also open but wont conect. only get internet by usb tether to phone. my older laptop runs the latest xubuntu and works the wifi dongle fine. so can i copy files needed from my 32bit xubuntu laptop to the 12.04 64 tower? i downloaded the latest software from r
[14:41] <Guest29381> tl, can i compile on 32 for 64?
[14:41] <lubotu3`> Launchpad bug 852190 in linux (Ubuntu) "7392:7811 Edimax EW-7811Un USB dongle won't connect to networks (rtl8192cu module)" [Medium,Incomplete]
[14:41] <Guest29381> thanks bot
[14:45] <foobarry> tried a newer kernel? 12.04 can use them
[14:52] <Guest29381> foobarry: that might be an option but i locked out usb and keyboard from the bios and these machines dont have removable media so i would need to strip the hardware to reinstall should it all go tits up
[15:22] <bigcalm> Sup yall?
[15:23] <foobarry> overwrote my grub2 with grub1...can't see the other os now :(
[15:30] <mapps> hey
[15:40] <foobarry> ho
[15:42] <mapps> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2685996/Tattoo-addict-blames-OCD-face-body-art-spending-15-000-enduring-painful-skin-grafts-remove-old-designs.html
[15:43] <mapps> LOL
[15:45] <foobarry> top tip, you can paste a print friendly DM link and it doesn't show the sidebar of shame
[15:46] <foobarry> grub2-install: "warning, setor 32 is already in use by flexnet"
[15:46] <foobarry> wut?
[15:48] <mapps> sidebar of shame?
[15:53] <mapps> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-2679117/Watch-ride-Zumanjaro-worlds-tallest-fastest-drop-ride-Six-Flags.html?printingPage=true
[15:53] <mapps> not a chance id go on it:D
[16:03] <jpds> foobarry: flexnet is a place where windows stores license keys.
[16:20] <diddledan> how's that work then? : the 456ft monster that ranks as the world's tallest and fastest coaster in North America <-- it's either the world, or north america. it can't be both?
[16:22] <diddledan> aah, thankyou DM, I was hoping you'd use the elephant scale
[16:22] <diddledan> "The ride uses a massive 5,551ft of cable, a grand total of 26,502 bolts and has enough steel structuring reinforcing columns added to equal the weight of 32 massive African elephants"
[16:23] <diddledan> where on earth would we be without the DM Elephant scale?!
[16:50] <ndf> is there a way to temporarily turn off kernel messages about I/O errors on a (usb)disk? [/dev/sdb]
[17:23] <directhex> is anyone on a desktop with support for surround sound?
[17:24] <directhex> (don't actually need surround speakers connected)
[17:46] <daftykins> directhex: running ubuntu? :) digital connections count?
[17:46] <directhex> daftykins, never mind tbh, it's all full of bees
[17:47] <daftykins> well i'm glad i didn't go in there
[17:50] <foobarry> jpds: in the MBR?
[17:52] <jpds> foobarry: Yep.
[17:52] <foobarry> that sucks
[17:52] <jpds> foobarry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexnet
[17:53] <foobarry> "Basically, FlexNet works by writing stuff directly to the hard drive, to unallocated space between the Master Boot Record, and the first partition. That means there is a good chance it will break your bootloader, in case you are not using only Windows."
[18:05] <daftykins> sounds like some utterly irresponsible devs that should be fired out of a cannon
[18:08] <MartijnVdS> "it's a feature"
[18:15] <foobarry> i just unfeatured it
[18:16] <foobarry> however grub2 now not recognising centos6 isntall :(
[18:16] <foobarry> even running grub2-install
[19:10] <popey> marxjohnson: boo
[20:56] <diddledan> time for on-demand 24
[21:39] <daftykins> http://www.solid-run.com/products/hummingboard/
[21:39] <daftykins> i'm sure that's old news to some, but meh
[21:42] <popey> yeah, saw an article but no detail about it
[21:42] <popey> looks natty
[21:43] <daftykins> :D
[21:43] <daftykins> although one going up to $100 is a bit much
[21:57] <diddledan> interesting that it's the same layout as the pi
[22:00] <daftykins> very good move imo, re-usable cases \o/ prevent waste
[22:14] <diddledan> oh dear @ 24
[22:14] <diddledan> the daughter of the prez is in trouble now
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[22:35] <daftykins> diddledan: dog damn it you say one moar word!
[22:35] <diddledan> flibble
[22:41] <daftykins> diddledan: Mr. ?
[22:44] <diddledan> apparently police dogs can sniff out paedophiles
[22:44] <diddledan> http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2014/07/08/police-dog-catches-paedophiles-by-sniffing-out-their-hidden-hard-drives/
[22:52] <daftykins> that strikes me as an absolute crock
[23:04] <diddledan> this really hurts my head: https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/s526x395/10491281_10152246467378581_1634055452623940356_n.jpg
[23:05] <daftykins> seems fine to me
[23:17] <daftykins> ugh all i can hear are intermittent cackles coming from the neighbours
[23:17] <daftykins> they have a window wide open and these old houses have single pane glass windows and badly fitting doors
[23:18] <daftykins> so i say something or save it for the next day when his pals are gone and there's probably no booze involved 0o
[23:18] <daftykins> *do i
[23:19] <diddledan> how about some loud muzak?
[23:19] <diddledan> make them complain first
[23:19] <daftykins> nah
[23:19] <daftykins> my house is granite, the sound doesn't leave
[23:19] <dwatkins> My neighbour was watching something loud on TV, seems to have stopped now thankfully.
[23:20] <dwatkins> I considered taking it up with them or (if necessary) the council, but heared too many stories about loud neighbours who got worse when reported :-
[23:20] <dwatkins> :-/ even
[23:21] <diddledan> grr, google haven't launched the "ok, google! what's on my chromecast?" response mechanism yet
[23:21] <diddledan> I wanted to know more about an image
[23:24] <daftykins> 0o
[23:24] <daftykins> dwatkins: have you spoken to the neighbour yet?
[23:24] <daftykins> i can see how someone would get annoyed if they weren't spoken to first
[23:26] <diddledan> daftykins: some folk might not feel confident enough to talk to the neighbour first
[23:27] <daftykins> i can understand that
[23:34] <daftykins> Joe 90 \o/