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Symmetrialol nice rsync speed populating mirror05:44
Kilosmorning all05:55
Symmetriasup kilos06:00
Symmetriaholy crap these arrays are *FAST*06:00
Symmetria4194304000 bytes (4.2 GB) copied, 16.057 s, 261 MB/s06:01
Symmetriaheh thats the write speed06:01
Symmetria4194304000 bytes (4.2 GB) copied, 1.06888 s, 3.9 GB/s06:01
Symmetriathats the read speed06:01
superflymorning all06:13
Kilosmorning superfly 06:14
charlgood morning all07:02
Kiloshi charl 07:02
charlhi Kilos 07:03
charlhow's it going07:03
charlMaaz: coffee on07:03
* Maaz washes some mugs07:03
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!07:07
bushtechKilos: -6 at our place last night07:08
charlMaaz: thanks07:08
Kilosouch bushtech  we must have been near that too, everything is ice07:09
Maazcharl: Sure07:09
charlnice ! sounds like a good european winter you have there07:10
Kilossis man thats nasty07:11
Kilosnights below 18 degrees and days under 28 degrees suck07:12
Kiloshi psyatw 07:30
Symmetrialast nights game... not the first time Germany sent a bunch of guys to the showers in tears...07:30
* Symmetria snickers07:30
psyatwhi Kilos07:30
psyatwhi Symmetria 07:30
Symmetriayou know what the difference between oscar pistorious and brazil is?07:30
Symmetriaoscar has a better defense and more shots on target ;p07:30
Kilosyip a fancy germany07:31
psyatwtheir defense had already been shaky against Mexico and Chile07:31
psyatwso I kind of expected them to be punished for that but not by this margin07:31
Symmetriawhats the difference between snow white and brazil?07:31
Symmetriasnow white had an excuse... she was asleep when she let 7 in ;p07:32
psyatwthat sounds rather ambiguous, doesn't it? :P07:32
Symmetriathe last time germany destroyed a country on home turf like that... poland... 1939 ;p07:33
Symmetriathough the last time germany had this much success in south america, they were hiding from war crime tribunals07:36
psyatwafter the war germans moved wholescale to north and south america07:44
charlhi psyatw 07:47
charlhi Vince-0 07:47
psyatwhi charl07:48
Kiloshi Vince-0 07:49
Kiloslo nuvolari 07:49
charli happen to have only seen the good part of yesterday evening's football - the part where they scored like 4 goals in 10 mins or something07:49
charlit was amazing07:49
charlhi nuvolari 07:50
psyatwhi Vince-0 07:50
psyatwbut the Brazilians were also very willing victims07:50
charlpsyatw: we are raining out in NL ! yesterday and today i came with the bus, didn't even feel like trying the bicycle07:50
psyatwespecially when the Germans put some pressure on their defense07:50
psyatwcharl, it was raining here too yesterday! that isn't very common in Poland during summer and in general anyway07:51
charlit is very silent here at work right now - too many people are all on leave07:52
charlnot a good time to go though :P07:52
charlmaybe if you go far away07:52
psyatwdefinitely not in the Netherlands :D07:52
psyatwI remember there was a summer many years ago when it rained all summer long07:53
charlbah i hope it isn't one of them07:53
Vince-0what's happanan07:53
charli have kind of seen enough of it the last two months07:53
psyatwmaybe I got lucky when I was in the Netherlands at the end of May and the beginning of June07:56
Kilosnot much Vince-0 07:57
Kilostoo cold to type even07:57
charlpsyatw: yes that was exactly the right time - between then and now it's been raining constantly07:58
Vince-0its 11 degrees here this morn08:02
Kilosyip durbs is a lekker place08:11
Kiloswe were in the minusses08:11
Kiloshi Xethron 08:17
arnaudmezHelly guys08:23
arnaudmezHello Guys08:23
arnaudmezhi Symmetria: 08:23
arnaudmezhi Kilos08:23
arnaudmezhi superfly08:23
arnaudmezhi inetpro08:23
nuvolarioh hi oom Kilos 08:23
charlhi arnaudmez 08:24
nuvolariyou skinnering about me? :P08:24
nuvolarihi charl, arnaudmez, Vince-0 08:24
nuvolarioh, you skinnering about Vince-0 08:24
* nuvolari is off the hook08:24
SymmetriaI need to know how large the entire ubuntu-archive file set is08:26
psyatwhi Xethron 08:27
psyatwhoi nuvolari 08:27
psyatwhello arnaudmez 08:27
arnaudmezhi psyatw08:27
arnaudmezpsyatw: yes french08:28
psyatwarnaudmez, cool, are you in South Africa now?08:28
charlno he's congonese, they speak french in a large part of africa08:30
charlparticularly west africa08:30
arnaudmezpsyatw: not at all08:30
arnaudmezpsyatw: Congo Brazzaville 08:30
charlpsyatw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_French#African_countries_with_the_largest_numbers_of_French_speakers08:31
charlDemocratic Republic of the Congo: 24,320,000 people can speak French either as a first or second language08:31
Kiloshi arnaudmez 08:31
Kilosnever nuvolari 08:31
Symmetriaheh interestingly enough, the largest spoken language on the african continent is neither french nor english08:32
Symmetriaand its not swahili either 08:32
Symmetrianor is it portuguese :)08:32
Symmetriaanyone care to take a guess? ;p08:32
charllooking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Africa right now08:32
psyatwarnaudmez, nice to see you here08:33
arnaudmezpsyatw: this is actually my country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congo_Brazzaville08:33
KilosSymmetria, you going to do the deb-delta as well?08:33
psyatwcharl, I know08:34
Kilosi think the sizes are about 40g per release plus flavours08:34
Kilosnot sure what all you want to install there08:34
psyatwarnaudmez, I will read that article, thanks08:36
psyatwcharl, my mother went to Gambia for a week back in 2006, I haven't been to the continent yet myself08:37
arnaudmezpsyatw: where are you living right now ?08:38
charlpsyatw: ah very nice !08:39
psyatwarnaudmez, I live in Poland now, I have never lived outside of Europe (except for the 8 first months of my life in my country of birth Suriname)08:41
arnaudmezpsyatw: cool08:42
psyatwarnaudmez, and until about a year ago I lived in the Netherlands, just like charl08:43
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arnaudmezthat's good psyatw08:44
arnaudmezvery good08:44
arnaudmezhow is linux community there ?08:44
arnaudmezor if i may say Ubuntu community08:45
psyatwI think here in Poland it's pretty good actually08:45
psyatwthere are many development conferences08:45
psyatweven though I haven't attended any so far08:45
psyatwI wanted to attend some, but then I got busy with work and travel08:48
bdukMore almal10:20
Kiloshi bduk 10:22
Kilosmiddag eintlik10:23
bdukJa oom was bietjie besig vanmore10:26
mazalBye veryone , have a nice evening12:51
jabberwockya19_has anyone looked at Google I/O talks on Polymer and Web Components?16:03
superflyI had a brief look at polymer. Don't try it on a phone.16:24
theblazehenjabberwockya19_: tl;dr?16:36
jabberwockya19_theblazehen: I have not tested it, but it looks like a very good way of solving some html/js/css isolation and boilerplate issues16:37
theblazehenooh nice :)16:37
jabberwockya19_by creating and sharing custom tag components16:37
theblazehenMaaz remind me about google polymer16:37
Maaztheblazehen: Sorry...16:37
ThatGraemeGuybbl :-)16:47
Kilosoi  missed him17:32
KilosMaaz, tell ThatGraemeGuy sorry, none of the lurkers even greeted you17:34
MaazKilos: Got it, I'll tell ThatGraemeGuy on freenode17:34
Kiloshi Gremble 17:34
GrembleHey Kilos 17:35
theblazehenfscking PyCrypto...17:46
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theblazehenyo charl 17:48
ThatGraemeGuylo again18:17
MaazThatGraemeGuy: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell ThatGraemeGuy sorry, none of the lurkers even greeted you" 43 minutes and 2 seconds ago18:17
theblazehenhi ThatGraemeGuy 18:17
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy hows you?18:17
ThatGraemeGuylekker thanks, that side?18:17
ThatGraemeGuyyeah pretty cold here18:20
Kiloswhere are you ThatGraemeGuy ?18:20
ThatGraemeGuycan't really say freezing, the previous 2 nights we were freezing18:20
ThatGraemeGuyi'm home18:20
ThatGraemeGuyjust went away for 2 nights18:20
Kilosin capetown?18:20
ThatGraemeGuybit more inland, much colder18:22
Kiloswe -2+ tonight18:22
Kilosyou lucky you not in sitherland they -9 tonight18:23
Kiloshi bushtech cold enough18:23
ThatGraemeGuythe wife wants to spend a few nights in sutherland next year18:23
Kilosthey were -14 two night ago18:23
Kilosmid summer tell her18:24
ThatGraemeGuymini-me still a bit young this year18:24
bushtechKilos: verdomp ja18:24
Kilosor take eskimo clothes18:24
bushtechand you're joining the wife?18:24
bushtechno comment18:26
ThatGraemeGuyoi, anyone else struggling to update package lists?18:27
bushtechma djy wiet wat dink ekke18:27
Kiloslocal mirror is sick18:27
ThatGraemeGuywas usint ftp.wa.co.za then tried za.zrchive.ubuntu.com now trying archive.ubuntu.com18:27
Kilosgo with main ThatGraemeGuy 18:27
* theblazehen doesn't use ftp.wa.co.za18:28
ThatGraemeGuywhich is "main">18:28
ThatGraemeGuyuh "?"18:28
Kilosoh and uct seemed ok yesterday too18:28
theblazehenMain arch repos are faster than wa, unless you are a webafrica customer18:28
Kiloswhere you choose repos it shows main18:28
ThatGraemeGuythis isn't #arch-za, go away :P18:28
Kilosi think its state side18:29
theblazehenpythong.org wut18:30
theblazehenwarning: NSFW18:30
Kilosubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/ubuntu worked good this morning18:30
ThatGraemeGuywill try thanks18:31
Kilosi have no idea where that is though18:31
ThatGraemeGuyif i can't get a working mirror i'm not getting minetest updated tonight18:32
Kilosi think i have that right18:32
ThatGraemeGuynope, a bunch of 404s @$%18:32
theblazehen#arch-za has no users :(18:32
Kilosmine is reloading fine18:33
Kiloscheck my typing18:33
theblazehenThatGraemeGuy: minetest uses lua for mods right?18:33
* theblazehen is looking for a voxel game that can use C++ for mods18:33
ThatGraemeGuyit does18:34
ThatGraemeGuynobody in their right mind would base mods on c++18:34
theblazehenwell yeah, I guess..18:34
ThatGraemeGuyyou want your mod language to be accessible to many, easy to write and debug18:34
theblazehenBut I wanna work on an AI project and need native speed18:34
ThatGraemeGuyAI is such a specialist field i can't see why you'd need an app that extensible via mods18:35
ThatGraemeGuyyou want to have control from start to finish usually18:35
theblazehenWell hebbian learning networks18:35
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: http://askubuntu.com/a/903518:35
ThatGraemeGuynot sure if you knew about the mirror:// protocol, that worked for me18:36
theblazehenWant to be able to get them to learn how the game operates etc18:36
* Kilos goes to see18:36
ThatGraemeGuyselects the fastest mirror, very useful18:36
ThatGraemeGuyon with the minetest, uh, .... testing18:36
* nuvolari is about to have a bad stommack18:36
* theblazehen <3's spotify18:36
theblazehenai  nuvolari 18:37
Kilosoh the gui has the option to select fastest mirror but that neology one worked kiff for me18:37
nuvolariI hope CT is ready for me! :D18:37
Kiloslast best mirror run showed somewhere in netherlands18:37
nuvolaridunno if I'm ready for it18:37
theblazehenKilos: maybe choose that one18:38
Kilosyou moving there nuvolari ?18:38
Kilosnope man neology is fast18:38
ThatGraemeGuyit didn't work for me now18:38
KilosThatGraemeGuy, use the gui and see if it shows the neology mirror18:38
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: are you playing?18:39
nuvolariKilos: going for interviews oom18:39
ThatGraemeGuyuse the gui on my guiless server? great plan :)18:39
Kilosgood luck nuvolari 18:39
nuvolarithanks oom Kilos 18:39
ThatGraemeGuywhere are you interviewing nuvolari?18:39
KilosThatGraemeGuy, nope im using it18:39
Kilosi promise18:39
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: i think you've lost the plot :)18:39
ThatGraemeGuynever mind18:39
ThatGraemeGuyare you playing minetest at the moment?18:39
theblazehenwhen you transfer 30 GB in 3 days..18:40
theblazehenooh and amount/day is gonna go up soon :)18:40
KilosMaaz, ping http://ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/ubuntu18:41
MaazKilos: Error: unknown host http://ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/ubuntu18:41
nuvolariThatGraemeGuy: 5 places18:41
ThatGraemeGuywhich 5? :-p18:42
nuvolarii is an interview for Discovery, in Sandton, but a Video Conference in CT :P18:42
nuvolariI could'nt get around to their offices here18:42
ThatGraemeGuyew not my cup of tea18:42
nuvolariso I do all my interviews in 1 go18:42
ThatGraemeGuyi didn't even work a full year there :-/18:42
KilosThatGraemeGuy, http://picpaste.com/19-CPNVW4mN.png18:43
nuvolariwhy is that ThatGraemeGuy?18:43
theblazehenThatGraemeGuy: Discovery?18:44
Kilosthats what is in my synaptic repository choose place18:44
ThatGraemeGuyai oom Kilos, i've moved on already ;-)18:44
Kilosi dont know why i cant ping it18:44
ThatGraemeGuynuvolari: i found the corporate environment too restrictive18:44
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: because you can't ping something starting "http://" ;-)18:45
nuvolariThatGraemeGuy: oh boo :-/ That's what I'm afraid of18:45
ThatGraemeGuyyeah, big corporate IT isn't everyone's cup of tea18:45
ThatGraemeGuybut you won't know until you give it a go18:45
nuvolariI guess that's true18:46
nuvolariI'm pretty much after having freedom18:46
nuvolarior some of it18:46
nuvolariand people with the right mindset on how tech products should work18:46
nuvolarinot putting the cart before the horses18:46
nuvolariI'm so fed up with that I can scream18:47
ThatGraemeGuywhat sort of work are you looking for?18:47
ThatGraemeGuyi know we're looking for "devops" people18:47
ThatGraemeGuyi hate that term so very much18:47
ThatGraemeGuybut yea18:47
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://www.hetzner.co.za/careers/career-opportunities <-- also call centre types but i guess you are beyond that18:48
nuvolarioh, and then 4i Mobile (like), Compuscan (meh-like), Discovery (maybe-like), OnNet (like-from-what-i-saw)18:48
nuvolariand friday, Afrozaar (thumbs-up-like), and Team Talk Media (like)18:49
ThatGraemeGuybest of luck :)18:49
nuvolarithanks :>18:49
nuvolariI wanted  to do devops when I started :P Wasn't really sure whether I want to do linux stuff or java stuff. Knew a bit more linux, but now my focus is on java18:50
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: have you updated your minetest yet?18:53
Kilosnope that?18:53
KilosThatGraemeGuy, 18:53
nuvolariThe worst part about job-hunting again is having to catch up on what I've forgotten by this time :P18:53
Kiloscommand line?18:53
nuvolariack, I have to go pack18:53
GrembleWhy Java?18:53
ThatGraemeGuyok you might want to update so long, when i'm done with the server upgrade you will probably need the new client18:53
nuvolariGremble: why not java? It is stable, have good support, standards, widespread, trustworthy18:54
nuvolariI know it has its downfalls18:55
nuvolaribut it makes up for that in tooling18:55
Kiloswhew only 2 meg download. is that right?18:55
ThatGraemeGuyyeah it isn't big18:56
KilosGremble, nuvolari is our java man18:56
nuvolariugh! thanks for asking Gremble :P I have to get some answers for what I dislike about java - a question I couldn't properly answer with another interview :P18:57
GrembleI feel racist toward Java. It I just discriminate indiscriminately :P So I like to hear what people like with it18:58
Kilosheres was a bonus ThatGraemeGuy 19:03
ThatGraemeGuyoooh mese blocks19:06
ThatGraemeGuyi've only found twice19:06
ThatGraemeGuybut by now i have so much mese i can make my own blocks already19:07
Kilosi have 18 now19:07
Kiloshow many mese in each one19:07
nuvolarididn't know this: Java has been criticized for not supporting arrays of more than 231−1 (about 2.1 billion) elements19:08
Kilossuperfly, have you split a mese block yet?19:08
nuvolarithat's 2³¹-119:08
superflyKilos: no19:08
Kilosi wonder how many they make19:09
Kilosdiamonds are not too plentiful though ThatGraemeGuy 19:09
Kilosespecially if you mine lots of obsidian19:10
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: 9 mese crystals in a block19:10
nuvolariok, I'm out. Need to plack and sleep19:10
nuvolarig'night everyone19:10
Kilosnight nuvolari 19:10
Kilossleep tight19:10
* ThatGraemeGuy pings superfly19:25
superflyhi ThatGraemeGuy19:27
ThatGraemeGuyoh hey :)19:28
ThatGraemeGuysorry, i stopped the server quickly19:28
ThatGraemeGuyupgrade time19:28
ThatGraemeGuygive me 15 mins19:28
Kilosnow we gonna be able to teleport?19:30
ThatGraemeGuyteleport is a privilege, it has nothing to do with the new version19:30
ThatGraemeGuybut mesecons and home decor work19:31
Kilosthat could save data hopefully, lots of travelling seems to eat data19:31
ThatGraemeGuyand tnt is improved19:31
ThatGraemeGuyboats and tnt are now part of the default game19:31
Kilosim scared of tnt lava is bad enough19:31
ThatGraemeGuythere are glass panes as well19:31
ThatGraemeGuythe way they updated tnt is cool19:31
ThatGraemeGuyold tnt would destroy roughly 1/3 of blocks19:31
ThatGraemeGuynew tnt only destroys dirt or cobble19:32
Kiloswhere do we get this privilege?19:32
ThatGraemeGuyso you don't accidentally blow up diamonds19:32
Kilosthats good they short supply19:32
Kilosbut mithril pick works fine on most things19:33
Kilosjust diamond and obsidian it cant cut i think19:33
Kilosbit safer near lava too19:34
ThatGraemeGuysuperfly: you said we can ditch monorail?19:34
superflyThatGraemeGuy: yeah, I gave up on those rail ideas, their implementations do not work very well19:35
KilosMaaz, coffee on19:39
* Maaz puts the kettle on19:39
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!19:43
KilosMaaz, thanks19:43
MaazKilos: Sure19:43
ThatGraemeGuyalmost donw upgrading19:43
ThatGraemeGuydone too19:43
Kilosmy nose is froze and my toes is froze19:46
ThatGraemeGuysuperfly, Kilos: back online19:48
Kilosits telling me to upgrade my client19:50
ThatGraemeGuyi'm pretty sure i told you the same a few minutes ago :)19:51
Kilosi reinstalled in synaptic. that normally upgrades19:51
Kilosi dont know the command to upgrade19:52
ThatGraemeGuywhat version is your client?19:52
ThatGraemeGuysudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable19:53
ThatGraemeGuysudo apt-get purge minetest*19:53
ThatGraemeGuysudo apt-get update19:53
ThatGraemeGuysudo apt-get install minetestc5519:54
Kilosty ThatGraemeGuy 19:54
Kiloswow even a microwave20:02
Kilosand 8 pages of craftable goodies20:03
ThatGraemeGuynight all20:13
Kilosnight ThatGraemeGuy ty20:13
spinzaanyone know of good deals on basic laptop for inet/email/word?  or is this too off topic?20:16
Kilosnight all. sleep tight20:17
Kilosspinza, hold on20:17
spinzabudget of maybe R5k20:17
Kilosi3 only at that price i think20:18
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