[05:44] <Symmetria> sup
[05:44] <Symmetria>     542,953,392 100%   28.27MB/s    0:00:18 (xfr#11, to-chk=312/359)
[05:44] <Symmetria> lol nice rsync speed populating mirror
[05:55] <Kilos> morning all
[06:00] <Symmetria> sup kilos
[06:00] <Symmetria> holy crap these arrays are *FAST*
[06:01] <Symmetria> 4194304000 bytes (4.2 GB) copied, 16.057 s, 261 MB/s
[06:01] <Symmetria> wheeeeeeeeeeeeee
[06:01] <Symmetria> heh thats the write speed
[06:01] <Symmetria> 4194304000 bytes (4.2 GB) copied, 1.06888 s, 3.9 GB/s
[06:01] <Symmetria> thats the read speed
[06:02] <Kilos> cool
[06:13] <superfly> morning all
[06:14] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[07:02] <charl> good morning all
[07:02] <Kilos> hi charl 
[07:03] <charl> hi Kilos 
[07:03] <charl> how's it going
[07:03] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[07:03]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[07:03] <Kilos> cold
[07:07] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[07:08] <bushtech> Kilos: -6 at our place last night
[07:08] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[07:09] <Kilos> ouch bushtech  we must have been near that too, everything is ice
[07:09] <Maaz> charl: Sure
[07:10] <charl> nice ! sounds like a good european winter you have there
[07:11] <Kilos> sis man thats nasty
[07:12] <Kilos> nights below 18 degrees and days under 28 degrees suck
[07:30] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[07:30] <Symmetria> hrm
[07:30] <Symmetria> last nights game... not the first time Germany sent a bunch of guys to the showers in tears...
[07:30]  * Symmetria snickers
[07:30] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[07:30] <psyatw> hi Symmetria 
[07:30] <psyatw> haha
[07:30] <Symmetria> you know what the difference between oscar pistorious and brazil is?
[07:30] <Symmetria> oscar has a better defense and more shots on target ;p
[07:31] <Kilos> yip a fancy germany
[07:31] <Kilos> haha
[07:31] <psyatw> their defense had already been shaky against Mexico and Chile
[07:31] <psyatw> so I kind of expected them to be punished for that but not by this margin
[07:31] <Symmetria> whats the difference between snow white and brazil?
[07:32] <Symmetria> snow white had an excuse... she was asleep when she let 7 in ;p
[07:32] <psyatw> haha
[07:32] <psyatw> that sounds rather ambiguous, doesn't it? :P
[07:33] <Symmetria> the last time germany destroyed a country on home turf like that... poland... 1939 ;p
[07:35] <psyatw> haha
[07:36] <Symmetria> though the last time germany had this much success in south america, they were hiding from war crime tribunals
[07:44] <psyatw> after the war germans moved wholescale to north and south america
[07:44] <psyatw> http://www.globalresearch.ca/operation-nazification-u-s-military-hired-sixteen-hundred-nazi-scientists-and-doctors/5369981
[07:47] <charl> hi psyatw 
[07:47] <charl> hi Vince-0 
[07:48] <psyatw> hi charl
[07:49] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:49] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[07:49] <charl> i happen to have only seen the good part of yesterday evening's football - the part where they scored like 4 goals in 10 mins or something
[07:49] <charl> it was amazing
[07:50] <charl> hi nuvolari 
[07:50] <psyatw> hi Vince-0 
[07:50] <psyatw> but the Brazilians were also very willing victims
[07:50] <charl> psyatw: we are raining out in NL ! yesterday and today i came with the bus, didn't even feel like trying the bicycle
[07:50] <psyatw> especially when the Germans put some pressure on their defense
[07:51] <psyatw> charl, it was raining here too yesterday! that isn't very common in Poland during summer and in general anyway
[07:51] <charl> ah
[07:52] <charl> it is very silent here at work right now - too many people are all on leave
[07:52] <charl> not a good time to go though :P
[07:52] <charl> maybe if you go far away
[07:52] <psyatw> haha
[07:52] <psyatw> yeah
[07:52] <psyatw> definitely not in the Netherlands :D
[07:53] <psyatw> I remember there was a summer many years ago when it rained all summer long
[07:53] <Vince-0> o/
[07:53] <charl> bah i hope it isn't one of them
[07:53] <Vince-0> what's happanan
[07:53] <charl> i have kind of seen enough of it the last two months
[07:56] <psyatw> maybe I got lucky when I was in the Netherlands at the end of May and the beginning of June
[07:57] <Kilos> not much Vince-0 
[07:57] <Kilos> too cold to type even
[07:58] <charl> psyatw: yes that was exactly the right time - between then and now it's been raining constantly
[08:02] <Vince-0> its 11 degrees here this morn
[08:11] <Kilos> yip durbs is a lekker place
[08:11] <Kilos> we were in the minusses
[08:17] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[08:23] <arnaudmez> Helly guys
[08:23] <arnaudmez> Hello Guys
[08:23] <arnaudmez> hi Symmetria: 
[08:23] <arnaudmez> hi Kilos
[08:23] <arnaudmez> hi superfly
[08:23] <arnaudmez> hi inetpro
[08:23] <nuvolari> oh hi oom Kilos 
[08:24] <charl> hi arnaudmez 
[08:24] <nuvolari> you skinnering about me? :P
[08:24] <nuvolari> hi charl, arnaudmez, Vince-0 
[08:24] <nuvolari> oh, you skinnering about Vince-0 
[08:24]  * nuvolari is off the hook
[08:26] <Symmetria> hrm
[08:26] <Symmetria> I need to know how large the entire ubuntu-archive file set is
[08:27] <psyatw> hi Xethron 
[08:27] <psyatw> hoi nuvolari 
[08:27] <psyatw> hello arnaudmez 
[08:27] <psyatw> French?
[08:27] <arnaudmez> hi psyatw
[08:28] <arnaudmez> psyatw: yes french
[08:28] <psyatw> arnaudmez, cool, are you in South Africa now?
[08:30] <charl> no he's congonese, they speak french in a large part of africa
[08:30] <charl> particularly west africa
[08:30] <arnaudmez> psyatw: not at all
[08:30] <arnaudmez> psyatw: Congo Brazzaville 
[08:31] <charl> psyatw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_French#African_countries_with_the_largest_numbers_of_French_speakers
[08:31] <charl> Democratic Republic of the Congo: 24,320,000 people can speak French either as a first or second language
[08:31] <Kilos> hi arnaudmez 
[08:31] <Kilos> never nuvolari 
[08:32] <Symmetria> heh interestingly enough, the largest spoken language on the african continent is neither french nor english
[08:32] <Symmetria> and its not swahili either 
[08:32] <Symmetria> nor is it portuguese :)
[08:32] <Symmetria> anyone care to take a guess? ;p
[08:32] <charl> looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Africa right now
[08:33] <Kilos> haha
[08:33] <psyatw> arnaudmez, nice to see you here
[08:33] <arnaudmez> psyatw: this is actually my country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congo_Brazzaville
[08:33] <Kilos> Symmetria, you going to do the deb-delta as well?
[08:34] <psyatw> charl, I know
[08:34] <Kilos> i think the sizes are about 40g per release plus flavours
[08:34] <Kilos> not sure what all you want to install there
[08:36] <psyatw> arnaudmez, I will read that article, thanks
[08:37] <psyatw> charl, my mother went to Gambia for a week back in 2006, I haven't been to the continent yet myself
[08:38] <arnaudmez> psyatw: where are you living right now ?
[08:39] <charl> psyatw: ah very nice !
[08:41] <psyatw> arnaudmez, I live in Poland now, I have never lived outside of Europe (except for the 8 first months of my life in my country of birth Suriname)
[08:42] <arnaudmez> psyatw: cool
[08:43] <psyatw> arnaudmez, and until about a year ago I lived in the Netherlands, just like charl
[08:44] <arnaudmez> that's good psyatw
[08:44] <arnaudmez> very good
[08:44] <arnaudmez> how is linux community there ?
[08:45] <arnaudmez> or if i may say Ubuntu community
[08:45] <psyatw> I think here in Poland it's pretty good actually
[08:45] <psyatw> there are many development conferences
[08:45] <psyatw> even though I haven't attended any so far
[08:45] <arnaudmez> :D
[08:48] <psyatw> http://lanyrd.com/places/poland/
[08:48] <psyatw> I wanted to attend some, but then I got busy with work and travel
[10:20] <bduk> More almal
[10:22] <Kilos> hi bduk 
[10:23] <Kilos> middag eintlik
[10:26] <bduk> Ja oom was bietjie besig vanmore
[10:28] <Kilos> http://picpaste.com/screenshot_445957932-pSQR9Rjv.png
[12:51] <mazal> Bye veryone , have a nice evening
[13:42] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:03] <jabberwockya19_> has anyone looked at Google I/O talks on Polymer and Web Components?
[16:24] <superfly> I had a brief look at polymer. Don't try it on a phone.
[16:36] <theblazehen> jabberwockya19_: tl;dr?
[16:37] <jabberwockya19_> theblazehen: I have not tested it, but it looks like a very good way of solving some html/js/css isolation and boilerplate issues
[16:37] <theblazehen> ooh nice :)
[16:37] <jabberwockya19_> by creating and sharing custom tag components
[16:37] <theblazehen> Maaz remind me about google polymer
[16:37] <Maaz> theblazehen: Sorry...
[16:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[16:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> ...
[16:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> bye
[16:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> bbl :-)
[17:32] <Kilos> oi  missed him
[17:34] <Kilos> Maaz, tell ThatGraemeGuy sorry, none of the lurkers even greeted you
[17:34] <Maaz> Kilos: Got it, I'll tell ThatGraemeGuy on freenode
[17:34] <Kilos> hi Gremble 
[17:35] <Gremble> Hey Kilos 
[17:46] <theblazehen> fscking PyCrypto...
[17:48] <theblazehen> yo charl 
[18:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> lo again
[18:17] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell ThatGraemeGuy sorry, none of the lurkers even greeted you" 43 minutes and 2 seconds ago
[18:17] <theblazehen> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[18:17] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy hows you?
[18:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> lekker thanks, that side?
[18:18] <Kilos> freezing
[18:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah pretty cold here
[18:20] <Kilos> where are you ThatGraemeGuy ?
[18:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> can't really say freezing, the previous 2 nights we were freezing
[18:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm home
[18:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> just went away for 2 nights
[18:20] <Kilos> in capetown?
[18:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> tulbagh
[18:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> bit more inland, much colder
[18:22] <Kilos> aha
[18:22] <Kilos> we -2+ tonight
[18:23] <Kilos> you lucky you not in sitherland they -9 tonight
[18:23] <Kilos> hi bushtech cold enough
[18:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah
[18:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> the wife wants to spend a few nights in sutherland next year
[18:23] <Kilos> they were -14 two night ago
[18:24] <Kilos> mid summer tell her
[18:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> mini-me still a bit young this year
[18:24] <bushtech> Kilos: verdomp ja
[18:24] <Kilos> or take eskimo clothes
[18:24] <bushtech> and you're joining the wife?
[18:25] <Kilos> lol
[18:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[18:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah
[18:26] <bushtech> no comment
[18:26] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> oi, anyone else struggling to update package lists?
[18:27] <bushtech> ma djy wiet wat dink ekke
[18:27] <Kilos> local mirror is sick
[18:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> was usint ftp.wa.co.za then tried za.zrchive.ubuntu.com now trying archive.ubuntu.com
[18:27] <Kilos> go with main ThatGraemeGuy 
[18:28]  * theblazehen doesn't use ftp.wa.co.za
[18:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> which is "main">
[18:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> uh "?"
[18:28] <Kilos> oh and uct seemed ok yesterday too
[18:28] <theblazehen> Main arch repos are faster than wa, unless you are a webafrica customer
[18:28] <Kilos> where you choose repos it shows main
[18:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> this isn't #arch-za, go away :P
[18:29] <theblazehen> lol
[18:29] <Kilos> i think its state side
[18:29] <Kilos> haha
[18:30] <theblazehen> pythong.org wut
[18:30] <theblazehen> warning: NSFW
[18:30] <Kilos> ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/ubuntu worked good this morning
[18:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> grrr
[18:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> will try thanks
[18:31] <Kilos> i have no idea where that is though
[18:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> if i can't get a working mirror i'm not getting minetest updated tonight
[18:32] <Kilos> http://ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/ubuntu
[18:32] <Kilos> i think i have that right
[18:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> nope, a bunch of 404s @$%
[18:32] <theblazehen> #arch-za has no users :(
[18:33] <Kilos> mine is reloading fine
[18:33] <Kilos> check my typing
[18:33] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: minetest uses lua for mods right?
[18:33]  * theblazehen is looking for a voxel game that can use C++ for mods
[18:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> it does
[18:34] <theblazehen> :/
[18:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> nobody in their right mind would base mods on c++
[18:34] <theblazehen> well yeah, I guess..
[18:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> you want your mod language to be accessible to many, easy to write and debug
[18:34] <theblazehen> But I wanna work on an AI project and need native speed
[18:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> AI is such a specialist field i can't see why you'd need an app that extensible via mods
[18:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> you want to have control from start to finish usually
[18:35] <theblazehen> Well hebbian learning networks
[18:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: http://askubuntu.com/a/9035
[18:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> not sure if you knew about the mirror:// protocol, that worked for me
[18:36] <theblazehen> Want to be able to get them to learn how the game operates etc
[18:36]  * Kilos goes to see
[18:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> selects the fastest mirror, very useful
[18:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> on with the minetest, uh, .... testing
[18:36]  * nuvolari is about to have a bad stommack
[18:36]  * theblazehen <3's spotify
[18:37] <nuvolari> stresssss!
[18:37] <theblazehen> ai  nuvolari 
[18:37] <Kilos> oh the gui has the option to select fastest mirror but that neology one worked kiff for me
[18:37] <nuvolari> I hope CT is ready for me! :D
[18:37] <Kilos> last best mirror run showed somewhere in netherlands
[18:37] <nuvolari> dunno if I'm ready for it
[18:38] <theblazehen> Kilos: maybe choose that one
[18:38] <Kilos> you moving there nuvolari ?
[18:38] <Kilos> nope man neology is fast
[18:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> it didn't work for me now
[18:38] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, use the gui and see if it shows the neology mirror
[18:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: are you playing?
[18:39] <nuvolari> Kilos: going for interviews oom
[18:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> use the gui on my guiless server? great plan :)
[18:39] <Kilos> good luck nuvolari 
[18:39] <nuvolari> thanks oom Kilos 
[18:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> where are you interviewing nuvolari?
[18:39] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, nope im using it
[18:39] <Kilos> i promise
[18:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: i think you've lost the plot :)
[18:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> never mind
[18:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> are you playing minetest at the moment?
[18:40] <theblazehen> when you transfer 30 GB in 3 days..
[18:40] <theblazehen> ooh and amount/day is gonna go up soon :)
[18:41] <Kilos> Maaz, ping http://ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/ubuntu
[18:41] <Maaz> Kilos: Error: unknown host http://ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/ubuntu
[18:41] <Kilos> eeek
[18:41] <nuvolari> ThatGraemeGuy: 5 places
[18:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> which 5? :-p
[18:42] <nuvolari> i is an interview for Discovery, in Sandton, but a Video Conference in CT :P
[18:42] <nuvolari> I could'nt get around to their offices here
[18:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> ew not my cup of tea
[18:42] <nuvolari> so I do all my interviews in 1 go
[18:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> i didn't even work a full year there :-/
[18:43] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, http://picpaste.com/19-CPNVW4mN.png
[18:43] <nuvolari> why is that ThatGraemeGuy?
[18:44] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: Discovery?
[18:44] <Kilos> thats what is in my synaptic repository choose place
[18:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> ai oom Kilos, i've moved on already ;-)
[18:44] <Kilos> sorry
[18:44] <Kilos> i dont know why i cant ping it
[18:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> nuvolari: i found the corporate environment too restrictive
[18:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: because you can't ping something starting "http://" ;-)
[18:45] <nuvolari> ThatGraemeGuy: oh boo :-/ That's what I'm afraid of
[18:45] <Kilos> oh
[18:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah, big corporate IT isn't everyone's cup of tea
[18:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> but you won't know until you give it a go
[18:46] <nuvolari> I guess that's true
[18:46] <nuvolari> I'm pretty much after having freedom
[18:46] <nuvolari> or some of it
[18:46] <nuvolari> and people with the right mindset on how tech products should work
[18:46] <nuvolari> not putting the cart before the horses
[18:47] <nuvolari> I'm so fed up with that I can scream
[18:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> what sort of work are you looking for?
[18:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> i know we're looking for "devops" people
[18:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> i hate that term so very much
[18:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> but yea
[18:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://hetznercareers.theresumator.com/apply/7v3Qnk/Senior-Devops-Engineers.html
[18:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://www.hetzner.co.za/careers/career-opportunities <-- also call centre types but i guess you are beyond that
[18:48] <nuvolari> oh, and then 4i Mobile (like), Compuscan (meh-like), Discovery (maybe-like), OnNet (like-from-what-i-saw)
[18:49] <nuvolari> and friday, Afrozaar (thumbs-up-like), and Team Talk Media (like)
[18:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> cool
[18:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> best of luck :)
[18:49] <nuvolari> thanks :>
[18:50] <nuvolari> I wanted  to do devops when I started :P Wasn't really sure whether I want to do linux stuff or java stuff. Knew a bit more linux, but now my focus is on java
[18:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: have you updated your minetest yet?
[18:53] <Kilos> nope that?
[18:53] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, 
[18:53] <nuvolari> The worst part about job-hunting again is having to catch up on what I've forgotten by this time :P
[18:53] <Kilos> command line?
[18:53] <nuvolari> ack, I have to go pack
[18:53] <Gremble> Why Java?
[18:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok you might want to update so long, when i'm done with the server upgrade you will probably need the new client
[18:54] <nuvolari> Gremble: why not java? It is stable, have good support, standards, widespread, trustworthy
[18:55] <nuvolari> I know it has its downfalls
[18:55] <nuvolari> but it makes up for that in tooling
[18:55] <Kilos> whew only 2 meg download. is that right?
[18:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah it isn't big
[18:56] <Kilos> Gremble, nuvolari is our java man
[18:57] <nuvolari> ugh! thanks for asking Gremble :P I have to get some answers for what I dislike about java - a question I couldn't properly answer with another interview :P
[18:58] <Gremble> I feel racist toward Java. It I just discriminate indiscriminately :P So I like to hear what people like with it
[19:01] <Kilos> lol
[19:03] <Kilos> heres was a bonus ThatGraemeGuy 
[19:03] <Kilos> http://picpaste.com/screenshot_445957932-pSQR9Rjv.png
[19:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> oooh mese blocks
[19:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> i've only found twice
[19:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> but by now i have so much mese i can make my own blocks already
[19:07] <Kilos> i have 18 now
[19:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> lekka
[19:07] <Kilos> how many mese in each one
[19:08] <nuvolari> didn't know this: Java has been criticized for not supporting arrays of more than 231−1 (about 2.1 billion) elements
[19:08] <Kilos> superfly, have you split a mese block yet?
[19:08] <nuvolari> that's 2³¹-1
[19:08] <superfly> Kilos: no
[19:08] <Kilos> lol
[19:09] <Kilos> i wonder how many they make
[19:09] <Kilos> diamonds are not too plentiful though ThatGraemeGuy 
[19:10] <Kilos> especially if you mine lots of obsidian
[19:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: 9 mese crystals in a block
[19:10] <Kilos> wow
[19:10] <nuvolari> ok, I'm out. Need to plack and sleep
[19:10] <nuvolari> g'night everyone
[19:10] <Kilos> night nuvolari 
[19:10] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:25]  * ThatGraemeGuy pings superfly
[19:27] <superfly> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[19:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh hey :)
[19:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> sorry, i stopped the server quickly
[19:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> upgrade time
[19:28] <superfly> np
[19:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> give me 15 mins
[19:30] <Kilos> now we gonna be able to teleport?
[19:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> teleport is a privilege, it has nothing to do with the new version
[19:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> but mesecons and home decor work
[19:31] <Kilos> that could save data hopefully, lots of travelling seems to eat data
[19:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> and tnt is improved
[19:31] <Kilos> oh
[19:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> boats and tnt are now part of the default game
[19:31] <Kilos> im scared of tnt lava is bad enough
[19:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> there are glass panes as well
[19:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> the way they updated tnt is cool
[19:31] <Kilos> cool
[19:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> old tnt would destroy roughly 1/3 of blocks
[19:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> new tnt only destroys dirt or cobble
[19:32] <Kilos> where do we get this privilege?
[19:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> so you don't accidentally blow up diamonds
[19:32] <Kilos> thats good they short supply
[19:33] <Kilos> but mithril pick works fine on most things
[19:33] <Kilos> just diamond and obsidian it cant cut i think
[19:34] <Kilos> bit safer near lava too
[19:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> superfly: you said we can ditch monorail?
[19:35] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: yeah, I gave up on those rail ideas, their implementations do not work very well
[19:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> cool
[19:39] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[19:39]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[19:43] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[19:43] <Kilos> Maaz, thanks
[19:43] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[19:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> almost donw upgrading
[19:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> done too
[19:43] <Kilos> cool
[19:46] <Kilos> my nose is froze and my toes is froze
[19:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> superfly, Kilos: back online
[19:48] <superfly> ta
[19:49] <Kilos> ty
[19:50] <Kilos> its telling me to upgrade my client
[19:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm pretty sure i told you the same a few minutes ago :)
[19:51] <Kilos> i reinstalled in synaptic. that normally upgrades
[19:52] <Kilos> i dont know the command to upgrade
[19:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> what version is your client?
[19:52] <Kilos> 0.4.9
[19:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable
[19:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> sudo apt-get purge minetest*
[19:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> sudo apt-get update
[19:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> sudo apt-get install minetestc55
[19:54] <Kilos> ty ThatGraemeGuy 
[20:02] <Kilos> wow even a microwave
[20:03] <Kilos> and 8 pages of craftable goodies
[20:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> night all
[20:13] <Kilos> night ThatGraemeGuy ty
[20:16] <spinza> anyone know of good deals on basic laptop for inet/email/word?  or is this too off topic?
[20:17] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:17] <Kilos> spinza, hold on
[20:17] <spinza> budget of maybe R5k
[20:18] <Kilos> i3 only at that price i think