[00:00] <histo> barnex: did you format it, mark it bootable, etc.?
[00:02] <barnex> histo: I believe so, give me a sec, I seem to have forgotten the user password _-_
[00:02] <histo> barnex: Just reinstall in uefi mode, if you don't understand all this.
[00:02] <Hoihe> Soo... Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bit. Nvidia Geforce GTX 550 Ti. I've just installed Nvidia display driver version 40 from Nvidia website using bash, however.. on startup, i'm being given errors about "Xort" and "nvidia settings".  Should I be worried?
[00:02] <HelloWorld3211> Chaser: tx
[00:02] <TJ-> raspberrypifan: which version of Ubuntu?
[00:02] <HelloWorld3211> !tsupgrade
[00:03] <HelloWorld3211> !ltsupgrade
[00:03] <raspberrypifan> 14
[00:03] <barnex> histo: is it possible to install in uefi mode with netinstaller?
[00:03] <histo> barnex: yes
[00:04] <barnex> Ok, I'll do that then, thanks.
[00:04] <histo> barnex: np, you'll want to use gpt partition table also
[00:04] <barnex> yeah, I have gpt partition table, thanks
[00:05] <TJ-> raspberrypifan: OK, not a lot I can find. There were a lot of problems with 12.04 but they seem to have been solved with updated usb_modeswitch packages
[00:05] <raspberrypifan> is there some kind of auto ulility for usb modems?
[00:05] <histo> barnex: I doubt you will see any speed improvements
[00:06] <histo> raspberrypifan: network-manager can use them
[00:06] <LucaS05> histo can you help me?
[00:06] <histo> LucaS05: pastebin the output of netstat -tan
[00:06] <raspberrypifan> i see this network-manager come into play when i shut down the vm and it tries to shut that down. maybe its trying to autostart?
[00:07] <TJ-> raspberrypifan: devices like the E160 are multi-mode. Initially they pretend to be a small CD-ROM, but by sending commands to them, can be switched into modem modes
[00:07] <histo> LucaS05: also was apache ever working?
[00:07] <TJ-> raspberrypifan: usb_modeswtich is the package that handles that
[00:07] <raspberrypifan> can that be disabled just to see what hhappens?
[00:07] <histo> raspberrypifan: How are you shutting it down if it locks?
[00:07] <barnex> histo: well, that may be, I still would like to become used to uefi more, since it's becoming wide-spread
[00:07] <LucaS05> yes it is
[00:07] <LucaS05> http://pastebin.com/EkC3rC2d
[00:08] <histo> LucaS05: Has it worked previously?
[00:08] <LucaS05> yes, i was working like an hour ago
[00:09] <histo> LucaS05: pastebin your /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[00:09] <TJ-> raspberrypifan: If the package usb-modeswitch is installed, there should be a "/etc/usb_modeswitch.conf" which contains an option "DisableSwitching=..." which you can set to '1' - there's also an "EnableLogging=..." option that may be useful if it turns out usb_modeswitch is the issue
[00:10] <LucaS05> http://pastebin.com/4KmtZd6F
[00:10] <raspberrypifan> i will look into trying that
[00:11] <histo> LucaS05: anything in iptables -L
[00:11] <histo> raspberrypifan: how are you shutting down the guest if it's locked to see those errors?
[00:11] <raspberrypifan> when i unplug the modem it works again
[00:11] <raspberrypifan> almost immedateiyl
[00:12] <histo> raspberrypifan: What is "it" that works again?
[00:12] <raspberrypifan> the system unfreezes
[00:12] <histo> raspberrypifan: please pastebin the output of dmesg
[00:12] <LucaS05> http://pastebin.com/EtNuUR42
[00:12] <raspberrypifan> kk
[00:13] <histo> LucaS05: try resolving to your ip instead of localhost
[00:13] <raspberrypifan> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1a64aa80515ede2c00f6
[00:14] <TJ-> raspberrypifan: The freeze sounds very much like bug #994073
[00:14] <raspberrypifan> sounds about right
[00:15] <LucaS05> nothing
[00:15] <LucaS05> still got a forbidden
[00:15] <histo> raspberrypifan: I suspect this is a vmware problem not ubuntu's
[00:15] <LucaS05> from the error log i see that is related to a particular folder, but i don't know i which file this is configured
[00:15] <histo> LucaS05: what kind of site are you hosting?
[00:15] <raspberrypifan> histo: hmm but ti doesnt affect windows
[00:15] <raspberrypifan> vm
[00:15] <histo> raspberrypifan: k.
[00:16] <histo> raspberrypifan: try running ubuntu bare metal and test with the device
[00:16] <raspberrypifan> hmm well i never managed to get linux to boot on my mac
[00:16] <histo> raspberrypifan: dd to usb and boot
[00:16] <LucaS05> http://pastebin.com/w3wa5Jeu
[00:16] <raspberrypifan> it didnt work
[00:17] <LucaS05> see the error log
[00:17] <Deepspeed> I have an old ppc mac that I wish I could get linux to work on
[00:17] <Deepspeed> but I don't know how
[00:17] <histo> LucaS05: ls -l /home/hulca/lsserver/
[00:17] <histo> LucaS05: ls -l /home/hulca/lsserver
[00:17] <histo> LucaS05: jesus typo's what are the permissions of the lsserver directory
[00:18] <histo> !ppc
[00:18] <LucaS05> drwxrwxr-x
[00:18] <raspberrypifan> histo: did u look at dmesg?
[00:19] <raspberrypifan> calls hamsters on a wheel
[00:19] <histo> raspberrypifan: yes
[00:19] <raspberrypifan> vmware issue?
[00:20] <histo> raspberrypifan: there is nothing in dmesg that is showing anything out of the norm. But I suspect vmware
[00:20] <raspberrypifan> well tongiht when i get home
[00:20] <raspberrypifan> ill try the tails thing and he modemmanager
[00:22] <xXTheXanderManXx> Heyy pplz
[00:23] <HelloWorld3211> Is there a JSTOR / XML equivalent of grep?  If you're at the command line, and you just want to find a particular key inside a big data file?
[00:23] <LucaS05> i've found this http://pastebin.com/w7dfwWD0
[00:24] <LucaS05> in the site-enabled folder
[00:24] <histo> LucaS05: what were you doing prior to it stopping to work.
[00:24] <LucaS05> i've updated php
[00:25] <histo> LucaS05: plop an index.html in there and see if it loads
[00:26] <LucaS05> no
[00:28] <histo> LucaS05: same 403?
[00:28] <histo> LucaS05: when going to localhost/index.html
[00:28] <LucaS05> yes
[00:30] <histo> LucaS05: what are the perms of your home directory?
[00:30] <histo> LucaS05: ls -l /home
[00:31] <LucaS05> drwxr-xr-x
[00:32] <histo> LucaS05: was the site originally hosted in that directory?
[00:32] <LucaS05> yes
[00:34] <histo> LucaS05: what site do you currenlty have enabled?
[00:36] <adamcunnington> Hi, i need to remove a manually installed package and i was going to do this through software centre/synaptics but they both crash when they load with an error message
[00:36] <apeoid> hi.  I installed chrome browser from google .deb and got some unexpected issue.  it said "run this program in terminal google-chrome-stable" or something like that, I did so, then I pinned that icon to launcher
[00:36] <adamcunnington> "Encountered a section with no Package header, problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/
[00:37] <adamcunnington> repository.spotify.com_dists_stable_non-free_i8n
[00:37] <apeoid> now when I click that icon, it just glows and nothing happens.  when I unity search google chrome, there are two results.  one doesn't work.
[00:37] <adamcunnington> _cache->open() failed, please report
[00:38] <histo> !ppapurge | adamcunnington
[00:38] <histo> apeoid: if you run google-chrome-stable in a terminal does it open?
[00:38] <apeoid> yes
[00:38] <etfb> Upgraded my Toshiba laptop to 14.04, now suspend doesn't work.  When it tries, it spits out some error messages, but I can't find where it logs them. Not in /var/log/pm-suspend, not in dmesg, not in .xsession-errors, not in any of the Ctrl+Alt+Fn consoles.  Any ideas where I can look?
[00:39] <histo> apeoid: edit the icon then and correct it's command line
[00:39] <apeoid> histo, and terminal is in process during chrome being open
[00:39] <apeoid> there are two results in unity search, also
[00:42] <etfb> !nouveau
[00:43] <etfb> Found it. /var/log/syslog. Turns out the video driver is frakked. What a surprise!
[00:58] <apeoid> this is the issue.  I have two results for google chrome:  http://i.imgur.com/v8L3m9r.jpg
[00:58] <apeoid> I've done this before so something I'm doing is causing it
[00:59] <apeoid> this time, I downloaded the .deg for chrome, installed.  after install it said "this program is run by the command google-chrome-stable" or something like that, so I typed it into terminal... up comes chrome, I pin it to launch.  then I closed chrome, closed terminal, clicked the icon.... nothing
[00:59] <apeoid> do a unity dash search for chrome, two icons.
[00:59] <apeoid> .deg = .deb
[01:00] <histo> apeoid: dpkg -l | grep chrome
[01:00] <apeoid> ii  google-chrome-stable                                  35.0.1916.153-1                                     amd64        The web browser from Google
[01:00] <apeoid> ii  xserver-xorg-video-openchrome                         1:0.3.3-1build1                                     amd64        X.Org X server -- VIA display driver
[01:01] <histo> find /usr/share/applications -iname '*chrome*'
[01:01] <apeoid> I did this with google earth too.  then I re-installed to start from scratch due to a number of other issues
[01:01] <histo> apeoid: ^^
[01:02] <apeoid> histo, /usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop
[01:03] <histo> apeoid:  So neither launcher works?
[01:03] <apeoid> the one that says google chrome works
[01:04] <apeoid> the one that says chrome - google chrome  nada
[01:04] <histo> apeoid: No idea where that is coming from. try....     find / -iname '*chrome*.desktop' 2>/dev/null
[01:06] <apeoid> histo:  http://bpaste.net/show/447137/
[01:06] <histo> apeoid: did you copy your home directory from an old install?
[01:07] <apeoid> no, I just did a delete/install
[01:07] <histo> apeoid: So now you just want to remove the non working one right?
[01:07] <apeoid> yeah
[01:07] <histo> apeoid: find /home/apeoid -iname '*chrome*.desktop' -delete
[01:08] <histo> apeoid: then log out and back in
[01:08] <tavoe> I'm trying to start a script on startup. I've tried adding it to rc.local and a /.conf file in the init folder. Neither is having any effect
[01:08] <apeoid> ok
[01:08] <histo> tavoe: rc.local will work are you sure your script works?
[01:09] <tavoe> When I run sudo etc/init.d/rc.local start, the script works correctly, but it doesn't run when I reboot
[01:09] <histo> tavoe: what does the script do?
[01:10] <tavoe> My laptop's a convertable. It detects when the screen is flipped around and disables the keyboard
[01:10] <histo> tavoe: so it just stays running?
[01:11] <cyborgcygnus> Anybody know what power management ubuntu uses? I know xubuntu uses xfce4-power-management but it's not functioning properly. Any alternative recommendations will be appreciated
[01:11] <histo> tavoe: or does it exit?
[01:12] <histo> cyborgcygnus: what is it not doing properly?
[01:12] <tavoe> when I run rc.local start, it starts in a backgroud.. something. Process probably. I can close the terminal and it keeps working until I reboot
[01:12] <histo> tavoe: I thought stuff in rc.local needed to exit 0
[01:13] <tavoe> How would you advise I cause a python script to run in the background every time the computer starts? My current approach is really not working
[01:13] <cyborgcygnus> histo, It's not asking me what I want to do when I push the power button, it just automatically logs me out, it used to bring up the options for shutdown - log out - sleep ect but for some reason it went cray cray. Also I can't have any sleep or automatic lock mode on as it disregards if I'm watching videos & just puts on the screen saver & puts the pc to sleep
[01:13] <histo> tavoe: upstart
[01:14] <histo> tavoe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto
[01:14] <tavoe> Thanks. I'll be back if I need help
[01:15] <Foxtrot88> Hi there!
[01:15] <Foxtrot88> :D
[01:15] <apeoid> uhh, guy who was helping me.  I forgot your name already but that worked
[01:15] <apeoid> *o, thank you
[01:16] <histo> tavoe: or you can sh -c /path/to/script &
[01:16] <Foxtrot88> sorry for bother you guys but i need some help with a mini wireless usb adapter that i get and does not run on my ubuntu computer T_T actually appear a kernel oops
[01:16] <xkdnckas> :)
[01:16] <histo> tavoe: here's two workaround if you don't want to write an upstart script http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1384022
[01:17] <apeoid> histo, that fixed me up
[01:18] <Foxtrot88> anyone
[01:18] <histo> apeoid: np
[01:18] <holstein> !wifi
[01:18] <histo> apeoid: problem was a wierd .desktop file in your home
[01:18] <histo> s/wierd/weird/
[01:19] <apeoid> I think I got those by pinning to launcher, I did it a few times
[01:19] <apeoid> I hope I got a clean install at least
[01:20] <mojtaba> 02:23:07 PM - mojtaba: Hi, I upgraded my ubuntu to 14.04LTS and now the wireless is working every other time. (I should suspend the computer and then turn it on again to have a working wireless.) I have Dell Studio 1555
[01:20] <mojtaba> 02:23:16 PM - mojtaba: Does any body know what should I do?
[01:20] <mojtaba> 02:24:37 PM - mojtaba: Any help is appreciated […]
[01:20] <Foxtrot88> emmm
[01:20] <Foxtrot88> thanks? xD
[01:25] <histo> mojtaba: rfkill list    when it's not working and see if it's getting blocked
[01:25] <mfran2016> hia
[01:25] <histo> mojtaba: blocked/locked
[01:25] <histo> Foxtrot88: which chipset?
[01:27] <mojtaba> histo: I will do that at next reboot. thanks.
[01:27] <mojtaba> histo: If it was blocked what should I do?
[01:28] <barnex> hello
[01:28] <barnex> again :-)
[01:28] <barnex> I have installer crashing :<
[01:28] <barnex> while installing grub.
[01:29] <holstein> barnex: is that all? you have an installation otherwise? you can try installing grub manually post-install and see what errors you have
[01:30] <barnex> holstein: I'm trying to install on a raid+luks+lvm partitions
[01:30] <histo> mojtaba: sudo rfkill unblock all
[01:30] <barnex> beforehand I open the luks device
[01:30] <barnex> and detect raids
[01:30] <barnex> and it seems to work well enough
[01:31] <barnex> and I don't really know where to look for logs
[01:31] <holstein> !lvm
[01:32] <connor557> Is this support?
[01:33] <OerHeks>  connor557 yes
[01:34] <barnex> holstein: that links refer to alternate isos, are there such for 14.04?
[01:34] <barnex> holstein: I see only server and desktop install isos
[01:34] <ObrienDave> barnex, no more alternates for 14.04
[01:34] <lewis1711> installed 14.04, touchpad not working, xinput list doesn't list a touchpad, what should I look at now?
[01:34] <barnex> so that wiki you linked is a bit outdated...
[01:35] <OerHeks> !mini
[01:35] <barnex> well, mini can't install uefi
[01:35] <barnex> So that's useless for me too :D
[01:35] <holstein> barnex: should be able to just the same.
[01:35] <barnex> 'Note: While the mini ISO is handy, it isn't useful for installing on UEFI-based systems that you want to run in UEFI mode. The mini lacks the proper files for booting the computer in UEFI mode. Thus, the computer will boot in BIOS compatibility mode, and the installation will be in BIOS mode. For more information, please see this. '
[01:35] <henkels> lewis1711: What machine is this on?
[01:36] <barnex> that's official help.ubuntu.com
[01:36] <ObrienDave> barnex, http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[01:36] <lewis1711> henkels, hp-14 notebook. right maybe it's a specific thing
[01:36] <barnex> Maybe I should get the server install
[01:36] <barnex> it has the same installer mini has
[01:36] <barnex> at least I've been told that
[01:37] <barnex> and maybe can boot in uefi
[01:37] <holstein> barnex: sounds like a plan..
[01:37] <holstein> !server
[01:37] <henkels> lewis1711: the hp14 chromebook?
[01:37] <lewis1711> henkels, no it had windows8
[01:45] <D-coy> m4v hi o/
[01:45] <dodobrain> hi all
[01:45] <dodobrain> will i be able to do an upgrade 12.04 LTS -> 14.04 LTS now?
[01:45] <apeoid> how do I become a standard user?
[01:45] <apeoid> I'm elevated to su and I want to go back down
[01:45] <dodobrain> someone had told me that i'd have to wait till july to be able to do this LTS->LTS upgrade
[01:48] <apeoid> nevermind su = switch user I get it
[01:50] <ObrienDave> dodobrain, first point release due in 2 weeks or so
[01:50] <ObrienDave> 24th, i think
[01:55] <mekhami> if I edit a file in gedit, save it, why is there a foo.py~ file in the folder as well as the foo.py file?
[01:55] <mekhami> only visible from the command line actually i think
[01:55] <eeee> i always do rm *~ -i
[01:55] <ThinkinLoudly> dodobrain: This might help : http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-12-04
[01:56] <dodobrain> thanks ThinkinLoudly ObrienDave
[01:56] <ThinkinLoudly> dodbrain: I did the same 2 days ago ... few glitches so far and on balance, much tidier than 12.04.
[01:56] <eeee> (-i asks to verify each one by one) i do that in case i forget to hit the ~ key and so i dont remove all files by accident
[01:56] <bandit22> Hi, how do I open a terminal in a network (home network)
[01:56] <dodobrain> thanks for the info about the upgrade ThinkinLoudly
[02:04] <somsip> eeee: maybe an alias would be suitable here? alias rm="rm -i"
[02:08] <barnex> uhm
[02:08] <barnex> this is getting seriously annoying
[02:09] <barnex> the server install has some own problems I cannot seem to track.
[02:10] <somsip> !details | barnex
[02:12] <barnex> somsip: well, all I know for now is I'm unable to install busybox-initramfs
[02:12] <barnex> seems like some other thing is using apt-install
[02:12] <somsip> barnex: more details are still needed. What commands are you using? What errors are you getting.
[02:13] <barnex> somsip: no commands, I'm in a process of installation from server-install
[02:13] <barnex> sorry, I was mentioning this before, forgot it's not obvious now
[02:13] <barnex> I'm at 'install the system' step
[02:14] <barnex> now, I'm not sure whether it's trying to install this on chroot or live system.
[02:14] <barnex> I guess chroot
[02:14] <barnex> in-target probably means that in logs.
[02:15] <barnex> unexpected error on command 'sh -c debconf-apt-progress --no-progress --logstderr --      apt-get -q -y --no remove install busybox-initramfs'
[02:16] <barnex> I guess I'll check for disk defects
[02:16] <barnex> because disks were formatted
[02:16] <barnex> so I don't see how there could be any lock on apt hanging
[02:16] <eeee> somsip: no alias, i only use the -i option when removing *~
[02:17] <barnex> the md5sum seems correct, but disk check fails
[02:18] <somsip> eeee: fair enough. Worth a suggestion.
[02:21] <gandsnut> On 14.04 with KDE plasma, I now find my various USB HD's automount under root.  Any suggest how to config them to mount with user ID instead?
[02:22] <cross__> Hi there, I am looking for a guru who might help me with a lvm partition suspended, ioctl failure
[02:22] <Beldar> gandsnut, You used fstab and they are in /mnt right?
[02:22] <tavoe> I'm ready to rip my face off. I want upstart to run a single script for me when the computer starts. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7768361/
[02:23] <gandsnut> Beldar:  I have tried the "disks" app under KDE, but don't see how to change owner/group in that app
[02:23] <Beldar> gandsnut, never used kde.
[02:24] <gandsnut> Beldar:  the app looks like an alternate to /etc files editing
[02:24] <Beldar> gandsnut, You can use fstab to automount
[02:24] <gandsnut> Beldar;  so just look up the man page on fstab and config that way?
[02:24] <cross__> dmesg return device-mapper sda5 too small for target
[02:25] <Beldar> !fstab | gandsnut
[02:25] <gandsnut> Beldar; ubottu:  thx much, will investigate that direct edit way
[02:26] <Beldar> gandsnut, for example here is a ntfs automount in mine using the partiton rather that a UUID. /dev/sda3 /mnt/Windows   ntfs-3g   defaults   0   0
[02:27] <gandsnut> Beldar:  I'm not seeing any specific owner or group, does that get inherited from the sign-in?
[02:27] <tavoe> Could someone please read this script and tell me if it seems wrong to you? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7768361/
[02:27] <Beldar> gandsnut, NOt sure I understand the question
[02:28] <Beldar> gandsnut, The one showing is a partition
[02:28] <eeee> tavoe: just add sh script.sh to your .profile
[02:29] <gandsnut> Beldar:  will study up on this, I think the "disks" app uses the UUID
[02:29] <gandsnut> Beldar:  appreciated
[02:29] <Beldar> gandsnut, I just use the partition in this one in lieu of the UUID, it is read/write no root
[02:30] <gandsnut> Beldar:  sounds like what I'm looking for, R/W user ID no root
[02:30] <Beldar> gandsnut, Would you like to see the ext4 with a UUID?
[02:31] <Beldar> UUID=f49fa444-f8c5-4447-8067-940d67cfdc92 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[02:31] <barnex> does checking integrity on flash drive created with unetbootin even makes sense?
[02:31] <gandsnut> Beldar:  right, that's what "disks" app has for config
[02:31] <barnex> because I have the .iso with the correct checksum, and it again failed checks
[02:32] <ajl_> Whoever just said "use .profile", You are a hero. So ends my grueling journey. Thank you. Thank you.
[02:32] <ObrienDave> barnex, i've had trouble with unetbootin. try startup disk creator
[02:32] <Beldar> gandsnut, That is my one partition for utopic, no seperate home so may not be exactly what you need, my istake.
[02:33] <Beldar> mistake*
[02:33] <ObrienDave> barnex, or tuxboot
[02:33] <gandsnut> Beldar:  maybe not exactly, but now sounds like the right direction   :)
[02:34] <barnex> ObrienDave: thanks
[02:34] <Beldar> gandsnut, Pretty easy to figure out and others here know exactly, I only automount a shared ntfs with W8
[02:35] <barnex> this installation takes entirely too much time :<
[02:35] <barnex> I think I've installed gentoo in less time on 2Ghz Computer
[02:36] <gandsnut> Beldar:  I'm so rusty on config'ing by direct file edits
[02:36] <barnex> back when there weren't many binary packages
[02:37] <barnex> I can't believe it's so uncommon for people to want software raid, encryption and lvm :<
[02:38] <barnex> aaand startup disk creator crashed.
[02:53] <roasted> Anybody run Ubuntu on a mac mini? I just installed it and I'm not finding an option to route my audio over HDMI. I assume this could be due to the mac mini needing an HDMI dongle?
[02:53] <sd1074> s it safe to use /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST3000DM001-1CH166_FO3KD1F-part1 instead of /dev/sda1 when creating a software raid using mdadm?
[02:53] <sd1074> *Is it
[03:07] <histo> roasted: hdmi dongle?  do you have an hdmi port?
[03:07] <histo> sd1074: why not use uuid
[03:08] <histo> sd1074: /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[03:09] <barnex> uhhh
[03:10] <histo> barnex: what's going on?
[03:10] <barnex> I'm trying to install from ubuntu-server.
[03:10] <barnex> With a flash drive
[03:10] <barnex> And the iso's checksum checks out OK.
[03:10] <histo> barnex: why?
[03:10] <histo> barnex: Don't you just want a desktop system?
[03:10] <barnex> but the self check doesn't work.
[03:10] <histo> from previous conversation
[03:11] <histo> barnex: checksum the usb
[03:11] <barnex> and I've tried different USBs
[03:11] <barnex> And unetbootin and usb-creator.
[03:11] <barnex> and there's always checksum error for one file.
[03:11] <histo> barnex: dd if=/path/to/isofile of=/dev/sdX
[03:13] <barnex> histo: thanks, I'm trying that
[03:13] <holstein> histo: i think barnex wants software raid, enctryption, and lvm.. with uefi support
[03:13] <barnex> that's correct
[03:14] <barnex> and there's no efi support on minimal iso.
[03:14] <holstein> cant/wont disable uefi to use minimal
[03:14] <histo> ahh
[03:14] <sd1074> histo, why not to use serial ids? They don't change on formatting. I can write that ID on HDD. UUIDs change every time you format it, right?
[03:14] <sd1074> *you format the drive
[03:15] <roasted> histo: nevermind. It's a mini display port. I think my hdmi adapter just doesn't support audio (evidently you have to buy one specifically with audio support to have, you guessed it, audio support)
[03:15] <roasted> I didn't know there was a difference, but I also never tried to push hdmi audio over one of these.
[03:18] <histo> sd1074: yeah that would work they only way the id would change is if the bus changed
[03:22] <sd1074> histo, I thought it wouldn't break even the bus is changed. So this ID includes a bus ID somewhere? by-id/ata-ST3000DM001-1CH166_FO3KD1F-part1
[03:34] <histo> sd1074: ata
[03:35] <histo> sd1074: for your case you will be fine using it
[03:35] <histo> sd1074: the bennefit of using uuid is you could put the fs on another disk and still be fine.
[03:43] <barnex> Ok, I've installed the system in efi mode, but all I'm getting when I'm trying to boot it is EFI Shell
[03:50] <coventry> Is there a way to spit out an xorg.conf corresponding to my current graphics configuration?
[03:53] <barnex> uhm
[03:54] <barnex> 'two file systems are assigned the same mount point (/boot/efi): SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition 4 (sda) and SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #4 (sda). Please correct this by changing mount points.
[03:54] <barnex> seriously.
[04:04] <barnex> uhhm
[04:04] <barnex> /boot/efi doesn't look like an EFI partition.
[04:12] <squirtsmacintosh> Do the standard ubuntu live/install images have a way to boot to commandline install (ncurses)?
[04:12] <squirtsmacintosh> My googling for boot options is failing me
[04:13] <Beldar> squirtsmacintosh, Can you explain why you need this?
[04:13] <histo> squirtsmacintosh: not the standard install only server and net install
[04:13] <cfhowlett> squirtsmacintosh .mini or .server do
[04:13] <squirtsmacintosh> live cd doesn't let me create md arrays
[04:13] <stonner> anyone uses dd-wrt??
[04:13] <squirtsmacintosh> I guess I could install mdadm and do it manually
[04:14] <histo> barnex: are you using raid?
[04:14] <histo> barnex: for efi you need a fat formatted partition mounted to /boot/efi
[04:14] <squirtsmacintosh> histo: I never could get a raid booted properly, I gave up
[04:14] <squirtsmacintosh> I tried so many ways of doing it
[04:14] <squirtsmacintosh> either grub couldn't be installed or it wouldn't boot
[04:15] <squirtsmacintosh> I went through every combination of uefi, mbr, gpt, etc before getting tired of it and giving up
[04:15] <histo> squirtsmacintosh: you create the array then install to it.
[04:15] <squirtsmacintosh> now for some reason when I install (not on a raid) ubuntu won't boot.  Even when I create the efi partition
[04:16] <squirtsmacintosh> histo: yes, I know, it failed
[04:16] <squirtsmacintosh> the non-raid boot issue is what I am having now
[04:16] <Symmetria> wheee Im happy now, my new mirror server is finally booted and starting to sync data so it can go live
[04:17] <Symmetria> it took me the *ENTIRE* day yesterday to get that stupid server online and working properly, god what a mission
[04:17]  * Symmetria notes there are certain hardware combinations that just dont play nice with certain versions of linux :(
[04:18] <Beldar> Symmetria, This is support that is offtopic
[04:20] <Symmetria> beldar, ok, support question, is there a way to stop ubuntu from renaming my network interfaces when I boot up, for some reason, when I reboot, the network interface names tend not to be what they were before reboot
[04:24] <Bryce> When i load up Ubuntu it has a symbol at the bottom and then my computer just restarts.
[04:25] <DrakkenWarr> I would check the md5 of your iso Bryce
[04:25] <DrakkenWarr> or reburn, it sounds like it is bokred
[04:25] <DrakkenWarr> borked
[04:26] <Bryce> Okay! Let me try that.
[04:26] <Bryce> I think i'm just going to reburn.
[04:27] <Beldar> md5sum | Bryce take about 2 min
[04:27] <Beldar> !md5sum | Bryce takes about 2 min
[04:27] <barnex> histo: yeah, I have that partition mounted in that place, and I use raid
[04:27] <barnex> histo: and this partition isn't part of raid
[04:27] <barnex> and installation went ok this time
[04:28] <barnex> but still all I get is EFI shell :<
[04:29] <Symmetria> hrm, heh, third reboot, third time ubuntu has changed a random NIC name to renameXX *confused*
[04:31] <SamwiseGamgee> I got a problem with my DNS that #freenode could not help me with, may be it's too late at night, cause I saw no experts in that channel just now
[04:31] <squirtsmacintosh> Symmetria: 'grep -R /etc/* renameXX'  or add -P and write a regex for renameXX
[04:31] <SamwiseGamgee> ﻿I have been using the Freenode IRC Server for a couple years now with Windows XP and with Kubuntu and Xubuntu without any problems, but today, for the first time, my current OS, Xubuntu 14.04, told me the Freenode IRC Server is unknown
[04:32] <SamwiseGamgee> I had tried accessing it about an hour ago, circa 22h00 Central Time, this Tuesday night, using Mozilla Firefox at http://webchat.freenode.net
[04:32] <SamwiseGamgee> So, I tried accessing the same server with XChat IRC and I got the same result: server is unknown.  That was the first time I tried XChat, because I only installed Xubuntu a few days ago.
[04:32] <ObrienDave> SamwiseGamgee, I've been here for hours, no problems
[04:32] <SamwiseGamgee> The weird thing is I had no problems accessing other websites using Firefox, like the Weather Network and Google.  It was only the Freenode webchat website that I could not access.
[04:32] <Symmetria> samwise you having any other DNS problems?
[04:33] <ObrienDave> using xchat
[04:33] <SamwiseGamgee> yes
[04:33] <Symmetria> its almost certainly not an xchat problem, it sounds like you're having DNS/host resolution problems
[04:33] <cfhowlett> SamwiseGamgee agree ^^^
[04:33] <cfhowlett> !dns
[04:33] <Symmetria> do a host irc.freenode.net from a prompt and see if it resolves there
[04:33] <SamwiseGamgee> So I used a Linux channel in PyChess on the FICS server to get help, and they told me to use the following commands on my command konsole to change my dns servers:
[04:34] <SamwiseGamgee> nano /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 8.8.8.8
[04:34] <Symmetria> if you do that it will get overwritten on next reboot
[04:34] <SamwiseGamgee> While I was executing those commands I noticed the following:
[04:34] <Sirpaypi> Hello
[04:34] <SamwiseGamgee> I know....I got nameserver 127.0.1.1 .....then below that ....search mts.net
[04:35] <Symmetria> you need to check the dns-nameservers line in /etc/interfaces to set nameservers on modern systems
[04:35] <cfhowlett> SamwiseGamgee reassigning dns is not a trivial issue.  I'd test a lot more before undertaking that step
[04:35] <Symmetria> manually editing resolv.conf is gonna break
[04:35] <squirtsmacintosh> histo: just created an array with 'mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=0 --raid-devices=2 --chunk=512 /dev/sda /dev/sdb' and did a next,next,next install and got the error 'grub_install /dev/sda' failed
[04:35] <SamwiseGamgee> But Xubuntu succesfully modified that /etc/resolv.conf file to .8.8.8.8, and after that I was able to access the webchat.freenode.net server both with Firefox and with XChat.
[04:35] <Symmetria> and I agree with cfhowlett
[04:35] <Symmetria> dont screw with your dns unless you know what you're doing :)
[04:35] <SamwiseGamgee> Unfortunately, the FICS chess guys told me the changes to that /etc/resolv.conf file are only temporary, and when I reboot the same problem will return.
[04:35] <SamwiseGamgee> So I logged into Freenode IRC here, and #ubuntuforums told me I have a DNS problem that needs to be resolved.
[04:36] <Ben64> SamwiseGamgee: are you not reading the replies that people are telling you?
[04:36] <SamwiseGamgee> Charles asked me if my dnsmasq is running, so I executed this command:  sudo service dnsmasq status.....I got this result......dnsmasq: unrecognized service
[04:36] <SamwiseGamgee> yes I am
[04:36] <Symmetria> sam if you wanna hard set your dns to something that will last beyond reboot
[04:36] <SamwiseGamgee> Charles said  resolv.conf gets regenerated on boot, so I need to determine why it's assigning that IP address as my dns.
[04:36] <Symmetria> you can insert a line that says dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 into /etc/network/interfaces
[04:37] <Symmetria> do NOT replace the whole interfaces file
[04:37] <Ben64> or set up the dns in whichever network manager you have
[04:37] <SamwiseGamgee> How?
[04:38] <histo> SamwiseGamgee: it's getting that nameserver from your router
[04:38] <Symmetria> ok :) this is where I bail out I aint touched any of the GUI network managers or anything outside of CLI on a Linux system in more years than I can count
[04:38] <Symmetria> histo thats only if he's running DHCP
[04:38] <Symmetria> and while thats likely its not guaranteed
[04:39] <histo> Symmetria: he would know where it's coming from if he wasn't using dhcp
[04:45] <barnex> ok
[04:45] <RahulAN> hii all any one used lipi toolkit here?
[04:45] <Kamaris> does anyone have any unity/vnc optimization tips so that there isn't as much of a draw delay?
[04:46] <Kamaris> i've used compiz to turn off as many obvious transition effects as i can, but it's still pretty slow
[04:46] <barnex> does the efi partition need to be the first partition on the disk?
[04:46] <hamiltont> Does the order matter when passing a large list to apt-get install?
[04:47] <Bryce> whenever i load ubuntu it still just restarts my computer
[04:48] <cfhowlett> bryce did you verify the ISO?  verify the USB?
[04:48] <SamwiseGamgee> So, what should I do next, Symmetria?
[04:49] <SamwiseGamgee> how can I permanently fix this DNS problem, so it does not keep coming back every time I reboot my OS?
[04:49] <Bryce> i am using a cd
[04:49] <cfhowlett> SamwiseGamgee reset your DNS to defaults unless you have a very compelling reason to muck about with it?
[04:50] <SamwiseGamgee> Should I just try rebooting my OS now, to see if the problem returns?
[04:50] <cfhowlett> Bryce ... CD?  what?  14.04 is too large to fit on a CD.  clarify
[04:50] <SamwiseGamgee> I never had any problems with my DNS for years, until today
[04:51] <cfhowlett> SamwiseGamgee all the more reason to approach reassigning DNS with extreme caution
[04:51] <Bryce> dvd+r Daul Layer 8x 8.5gb 240min
[04:51] <SamwiseGamgee> I have been using the same DNS since 2008 without any problems, using Windows, Kubuntu, and now Xubuntu
[04:51] <cfhowlett> Bryce DVD is not CD.  anyway.  DID YOU VERIFY?
[04:51] <SamwiseGamgee> And did you notice that the DNS problem was only affecting Freenode, and nothing else?
[04:52] <Bryce> Sorry, no. Let me do that.
[04:52] <cfhowlett> SamwiseGamgee for future use ... http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[04:53] <SamwiseGamgee> Why do I need to reset my DNS?  I think the changes I made were just temporary.  When I reboot, doesn't the DNS return back to how it was before?
[04:53] <cfhowlett> SamwiseGamgee nope.  that's why you don't muck about unless you know what you're doing with it.
[04:54] <ObrienDave> if it works, don't try to fix it
[04:55] <cfhowlett> SamwiseGamgee websites go up and down all the time ... maintenance, whatever.  always check website functionality before you tinker with the inner workings of the OS
[04:56] <SamwiseGamgee> Damn it, I knew I just should have waited
[04:57] <SamwiseGamgee> But I was asking everyone on the whole web and they all told me that I am the only one who cannot access Freenode
[04:57] <cfhowlett> SamwiseGamgee live and learn ...
[04:57] <SamwiseGamgee> so, I made a logical conclusion.....the freenode server is fine, but sth is wrong with my PC
[04:59] <SamwiseGamgee> ok, so how do I reset my DNS to defaults?
[05:00] <dhruvasagar> Hi guys, does anyone know of a good PPA for cassandra ?
[05:03] <MACscr> i have 2 nics (4 total interfaces) and only 1 card seems to create udev rules. Why is that?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> For those who are interested: developers have been working a lot on ubuntu touch and it has improved alot of eyecandy, working perfect on my nexus7 tablet.Soon ubuntu touch phones will release also: more info join #ubuntu-touch
[05:04] <MACscr> i mean they both work, but i dont get why one has the rules and the other doesnt
[05:08] <SamwiseGamgee> By the way, I don't think I have a router
[05:08] <SamwiseGamgee> My PC is hooked up to an ethernet modem, which is hooked up directly to the phone line
[05:13] <CharlesIC> hello
[05:13] <CharlesIC> every time i boot, it goes to emergency mode
[05:13] <CharlesIC> has some disk issues, and i can ctrl d to continue and it finishes, until the next time i boot
[05:13] <CharlesIC> im booting from ubuntu cd now. should i just run fsck?
[05:15] <SamwiseGamgee> You guys told me I should not have fracked with my DNS and you gave me a lot of advice about leaving the DNS alone, but you only made my situation more  confusing
[05:16] <SamwiseGamgee> You guys told me to leave it alone if it's working
[05:16] <SamwiseGamgee> But that in itself is an ambiguous statement
[05:16] <SamwiseGamgee> It  could mean, you never should have changed your DNS, or it could mean, you changed your DNS, so leave it now
[05:17] <SamwiseGamgee> So, which  one is right?
[05:19] <barnex> well
[05:19] <SamwiseGamgee> yes?
[05:19] <barnex> does it work now? If so, no need to frack with it.
[05:20] <barnex> At least I'd guess so, because I weren't here when the problem was discussed
[05:20] <SamwiseGamgee> It works, but when I reboot it will likely fail permanently
[05:20] <barnex> well, that's a weird definition of 'works' :-)
[05:20] <SamwiseGamgee> Barnex, are you an expert?
[05:21] <barnex> on DNS? hardly
[05:21] <barnex> but I'd say anything that would fail after reboot isn't really in a state that should be kept
[05:23] <Inoki> Hi guys, can anyone have a look at my support question? http://askubuntu.com/questions/492844/unitys-dash-search-blur-is-gone
[05:27] <WayKool99> re DNS, way back in college, the instructor told us to use an IP calculator when messing with DNS, Subnet Mask, Gateway etc. guessing you might know some free Calcs online?
[05:39] <node1989> I have Intel Xenon Machnine 32 GB RAM ( 6 core 12 threads)  Windows Machine. I need to set up R Studio Server .  Should I use VM or should I use dual boot and install Ubuntu ?
[05:42] <peterrooney> WayKool99: not online, but the gip package is a handy GUI with the same effect.
[05:44] <WayKool99> Red Hat's CUPS software in v14.04, print server, often crashes. for years (Desktop v7.10) it hasn't crashed. now, 14.04 causes print server and/or HP printer to crash. is it possible to Throttle the data flow, like Spooling?
[05:44] <WayKool99> thank you peterrooney
[05:46] <ashutosh> can someone help?? while installing Latex using apt-fast some files were not installed properly and i am getting
[05:49] <WayKool99> i've tried running PC's, WiFi devices and print server through a very old 10 Mbps router, hoping that would throttle the speed to stop the crashes.
[05:50] <Symmetria> hrm, whats the best CLI app for testing disk I/O performance?
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> Symmetria: hdparm can do some tricks
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> Symmetria: and phoronix test suite has a load of benchmark toolz
[05:52] <user123321> I want to have 2 Ubuntu/LUbuntu servers, both with identical server programs, serving thousands/million of client requests, to have load balancing and fail safe (if the main server goes down, the backup server should take position). What's the best approach? Is CARP good for this?
[05:54] <WayKool99> Symmetria, have you tried 'Disks'? lets you run Benchmark tests and SMART Data.
[05:54] <Symmetria> heh, this is kinda neat
[05:54] <Symmetria> root@mirror:/mirror-data/test# dd if=/dev/zero of=speedtest bs=1M count=4000 conv=fdatasync
[05:54] <Symmetria> 4194304000 bytes (4.2 GB) copied, 16.3518 s, 257 MB/s
[05:55] <Symmetria> damn these arrays are fast
[05:57] <WayKool99> Symmetria, in v10.04 Disks was the artist formerly known as "Disk Utility". made by the good folks at red hat.
[05:59] <WayKool99> caution. never use GParted and Disk Utility at the same time. i seriously hosed some partitions that way.
[05:59] <Symmetria> heh, Im getting around 260meg/second write and 3gig read off my array
[05:59] <Deepspeed> never use any two partition editors at once lol
[06:00] <WayKool99> awesome Symmetria
[06:00] <WayKool99> agrees with Deepspeed
[06:01] <Symmetria> heh I tend not to partition my larger arrays, I just write the filesystem straight without a partition
[06:02] <Symmetria> like on this:
[06:02] <Symmetria> .dev/md0        121T  672G  120T   1% /mirror-data
[06:02] <Symmetria> filesystem is written straight on there
[06:03] <Paradisee_> buon di o/
[06:03] <Paradisee_> suggerireste lubuntu per un pc non del tutto vecchio, per un utente piu che neofita?
[06:04] <WayKool99> how do you wipe a 3 TB Sata drive, and prep it for 2 Ubuntu version installs with GPT/EFI?
[06:04] <WayKool99> or, will 2 MBR 1.5 TB partitions work?
[06:06] <x2xx3x> ubuntu.de
[06:09] <barnex> is there some way to change filesystem options without formatting?
[06:09] <barnex> I'm specifically talking about stripe and stride for ext4
[06:09] <x2xx3x> hallo und einen wunderschönen! bei mir ist grad wieder soweit dass mein rechner startet, Win7 oder ubuntu zu booten versucht aber im bootscreen hängen bleibt. Mit win7 komm ich nur bis zum loginscreen aber hab keine maus und auch keine tastaturunterstützung. jetzt bin ich wieder mit nem live-stick unterwegs.
[06:10] <barnex> x2xx3x: for german try german support channel.
[06:10] <x2xx3x> oh my mistake..
[06:10] <barnex> #ubuntu-de
[06:11] <x2xx3x> thx, i should know
[06:12] <barnex> np
[06:19] <RWOverdijk> I remember there being a command to add your public key to a remote server. What was it?
[06:20] <RWOverdijk> ssh-copy-id
[06:20] <RWOverdijk> Thanks me.
[06:20] <RWOverdijk> You're welcome me
[06:22] <Slappy> hey I need an assist. I somehow activated soe sort of function that has my computer verbally saying every letter I type. How do I turn this crap off?
[06:22] <Slappy> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04
[06:23] <Slappy> anyone?
[06:24] <Slappy> Just need to know how to get my system to stop saying what I do
[06:24] <Deepspeed> Slappy, it should be in the accessibility settings.
[06:25] <Slappy> THANK YOU DEEP SPEED
[06:25] <Slappy> I looked everywhere
[06:26] <Slappy> That was getting so damn annoying. It made typing near impossible
[06:43] <marjinal1st> How can I set page margins properly in CUPS cli? I'm using like "-o page-top=100" but it doesn't make margin on page.
[06:56] <kandinski> how can I restart the Window Manager without rebooting?
[06:56] <kandinski> I have a job in a terminal I don't want to kill
[07:00] <chenbing> hello,howto apt-get install libxml2-utils in Ubuntu13 , came "unable to locate libxml2-utils"
[07:00] <MutMan> kandinski have you checked out this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/63767/how-do-i-restart-the-window-manager
[07:01] <function9> kandinski: service  programname restart
[07:01] <ubuntu_user> test
[07:05] <Beldar> chenbing, What ubuntu release?
[07:06] <chenbing> Ubuntu 13.04 ?
[07:06] <Beldar> chenbing, 13.04 is end of life.
[07:06] <paul_> how do I remove old linux kernels in order to free my boot partition?
[07:08] <Beldar> paul_, look at the manual remove. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/remove-old-kernels-from-ubuntu-13-04-13-10/
[07:10] <paul_> beldar; thanks
[07:11] <Energy> we wish a sucking of my dick, we wish a sucking my dick, we wish a sucking my dick for an happy new year !!! :-)
[07:12] <Beldar> !ops | Energy
[07:12] <Beldar> chenbing, 13.04 does not have access to the repos being eol.
[07:13] <nishantjrxxx> Hi, Im trying to get my own script to run in a modified xfce4 environment - I've edited /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn to point to my script, but it's not being executed on button press. Any ideas?
[07:22] <arun_> guys, is there any arm build of Ubuntu for Tablets?
[07:23] <somsip> !touch | arun_
[07:24] <arun_> somsip: is there the other ?? http://releases.ubuntu.com/saucy/ubuntu-13.10-server-armhf+omap4.img what is this ?
[07:28] <somsip> arun_: no idea. If you want to talk about touch, ask in #ubuntu-touch
[07:39] <helmut_> hi
[07:51] <jers> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/  Shouldn't Oneric be in here somewhere?
[07:52] <DJones> !oneric | jers No, its end of life so will have been removed,
[07:53] <jers> Hm, so this means I have to update I guess?  Apt-get stopped working after I tried to update
[07:53] <jers> *after I tried to apt-get update
[07:53] <DJones> jers: Yeah that'll be why, once the releases reach eol, their repo's get removed and support stops
[07:55] <successus> hello o/
[07:56] <Bryce> hi
[07:56] <successus> I have a problem with wifi ralink 2790 on upgrading system 12.04 to 14.04
[07:56] <ObrienDave> broadcomm?
[07:57] <successus> ralink :P
[07:57] <successus> ralink RT2790
[07:57] <nicferrier> 14.04 the clock has gone from the menu bar with the latest update.
[07:57] <nicferrier> anyone know why?
[07:58] <successus> the wifi works well but is unestable
[07:58] <ObrienDave> successus, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222909
[07:59] <Bryce> When I try to load up Ubuntu i get the symbol in the bottom of my screen then my computer just restarts.
[07:59] <successus> I read this thread yet, but don't resolv anything :S
[07:59] <Beldar> Bryce, Did you do the md5sum check?
[08:00] <successus> I have the same problem, when de wireless drops, I can¡t connect
[08:00] <successus> I have to reboot
[08:01] <mus1cb0x> who wants to chat about germany's crushing defeat of brazil today?
[08:01] <Beldar> !topic | mus1cb0x
[08:01] <mus1cb0x> oh
[08:01] <ObrienDave> take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:03] <ObrienDave> successus, sorry, didn't actually read it LOL
[08:03] <svetlana> pds_: hi.
[08:03] <successus> :P
[08:03] <pds_> hi
[08:04] <svetlana> pds_: how can I help you?
[08:04] <pds_> give me a second
[08:04] <pds_> it's kinda long question :)
[08:04] <Bryce> Beldar how do I do that.
[08:04] <Beldar> !Md5sum | Bryce
[08:05] <pds_> kickstarting a ubuntu server 14.04 LTS from a ubuntu desktop 12.04 LTS (all in vmware), followin this tutorial http://digitalsanctum.com/2013/03/22/how-to-setup-a-pxe-server-on-ubuntu/
[08:05] <pds_> how ever i want to use a kickstart file that is on a other http server
[08:05] <pds_> so i wonder if i can just delete the ubuntu folder on the nginx of the tutorial and it will install the boot.iso
[08:05] <ObrienDave> successus, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2204912
[08:06] <pds_> Bryce use md5sum on linux
[08:06] <successus> thanks very much
[08:06] <svetlana> pds_: reading it now
[08:06] <pds_> or hashtab on windows
[08:07] <pds_> md5sum is a terminal command though :)
[08:07] <successus> this guy have ubuntu 13.10 xD
[08:07] <Bryce> I can't even get linux open...
[08:07] <ObrienDave> successus, well, probably a similar fix is in order
[08:07] <successus> I can try! thanks :)
[08:08] <ObrienDave> np
[08:08] <bigred15> Hi all, how do I determine if my GPU has HD decoding enabled in linux?
[08:09] <pds_> svetlana opened private chat
[08:14] <svetlana> pds_: I think you can use an externally hosted file, yes.
[08:14] <svetlana> pds_: it didn't get through but it should now
[08:14] <linux_> hello
[08:14] <linux_> sdfsdf
[08:14] <linux_> sdf
[08:14] <linux_> sdf
[08:14] <linux_> sd
[08:14] <linux_> f
[08:14] <unopaste> linux_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[08:14] <svetlana> linux_: hi.
[08:14] <svetlana> linux_: it works.
[08:14] <pngl> Not sure it's the right place to ask, but is it possible to reliably stream over NFS, Samba or another remote FS system?
[08:15] <yellabs-r2> hello there all you good people
[08:15] <svetlana> linux_: you'll be able to talk again in a minute, hold.
[08:15] <linux_> how to use
[08:15] <linux_> ?
[08:15] <pngl> ..."FS system". Like an ATM machine. Sorry about that.
[08:16] <yellabs-r2> how can i start totem in a certain geometry ( from bash ) : for example geometry 500x600 ? any tips are more then welcome .. ( or mplayer ? )
[08:16] <linux_> where are you from?
[08:16] <linux_> where are you from ??
[08:17] <bcvery> linux_, this channel is for Ubuntu support only, if you wish to chat feel free to use #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[08:17] <linux_> anyone chat with me?
[08:17] <ObrienDave> in the offtopic channel
[08:18] <successus> ObrienDave, I'm go to try some time, thanks!!! :)
[08:18] <kuhno> i have a bug that appears sometimes right after booting: full-screen windows just use 1920x606px. how can i find which package's fault it is?
[08:19] <ObrienDave> successus, most welcome :)
[08:19] <pds_> svetlenna give me a few secs will provide ks file
[08:19] <linux_> how to use xchat?
[08:19] <linux_> anyone tell me?
[08:19] <pds_> apt-get install xchat
[08:19] <pds_> and run it
[08:19] <svetlana> pds_, the nginx instance which hosts the thing, needs to also load naxsi.rules on that path.
[08:19] <Bryce> how am I suppose to do a md5sum check when ubuntu doesn't work.
[08:19] <svetlana> linux_: how to use what?
[08:20] <STMelon> linux_, for xchat help please goto #xchat ty
[08:20] <svetlana> linux_: ah. xchat. you already are using it I believe. -- it gives you access to various chat networks.
[08:20] <STMelon> xchat is no longer being developed, you are better off using something like hexchat
[08:20] <pds_> svetlana http://paste.ubuntu.com/7769281/
[08:21] <svetlana> linux_: you're on irc.ubuntu.com, also known as chat.freenode.net; this irc network contains many channels dedicated to collaborating on broadly licensed output.
[08:21] <ObrienDave> *drum roll and rim shot*
[08:21] <pds_> svetlana can you check the direct chat , cause the regular one is quite cluttered
[08:22] <svetlana> STMelon: that's a biased statement I believe, but your call. if it's not maintained, it might need to go from ubuntu repos; other than that, this channel probably is not concerned. (the client works and I've not seen pending patches to it which are not accepted, not to mention security issues.)
[08:22] <STMelon> well look at the last time xchat has even been updated, it's not biased. IT'S FACT....
[08:22] <svetlana> pds_, I see the pastebin, but your area might be outside of my depth. please explain what you pasted.
[08:23] <STMelon> unfortunately ppl should take more time to research things such as xchat no longer maintained (updated) than make a statement ... about some1 being biased....
[08:23] <pds_> the kickstart file that i want to host on a remote server
[08:23] <svetlana> STMelon: if you show me a pending patch which wasn't approved I'll look into getting it in the tree
[08:23] <wotter> Ребята как Тор Браузер поставить на ИксУбунту
[08:24] <wotter> ????
[08:24] <bcvery> !ru | wotter
[08:24] <svetlana> pds_: all in one line please, if you can. it's harder to follow otherwise. I understand that you want to get the thing done as the tutorial says, and that you're hosting the thing externally, but the pastebin (or description of the problem) is unclear.
[08:24] <STMelon> so svetlana you l33t knowledge tells you that xchat will be secure as is (without it being maintained) for years to come, when EVERY irc client has been getting updates, patches ?
[08:24] <STMelon> i guess you know all
[08:24] <svetlana> wotter, добрый день, я сейчас зайду.
[08:24]  * STMelon stands corrected
[08:24] <NoGameNoLiiife_-> haiiii
[08:24] <NoGameNoLiiife_-> haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[08:24] <STMelon> do your research please before stating anything you have no clue abiut
[08:24] <wotter> Куда вы зайдете светлана????
[08:24] <STMelon> about*
[08:24] <svetlana> wotter, на #ubuntu-ru .
[08:24] <bcvery> NoGameNoLiiife_-, we see you, please ask your Ubuntu support question
[08:25] <pds_> svetlanna the pastebin is the kickstart file i want to use to get the semi automated install running
[08:25] <linux_> hiiiiiiii
[08:25] <wotter> У меня просто Видалия ошибку пути выдает устанавливает нормально а потом типо не коректно установлоена
[08:25] <svetlana> wotter, /join #ubuntu-ru, пожалуйста.
[08:26] <aurs> hello channel! does anyone here have the power to fix this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wireshark/+bug/1311173/comments/10
[08:26] <svetlana> STMelon, I've seen the "pretty" development of hexchat, yes; I think we'll have to agree to disagree though
[08:26] <svetlana> pds_, I see.
[08:26] <svetlana> pds_, and how does it go?
[08:26] <pds_> hmm just found ot that kickstart has it own channel
[08:26] <wotter> Там только видалия ставится она шифрует ip и можно допустим через хромиум сидеть уже с подменой или нет???
[08:26] <pds_> well it doesn't seem to work
[08:27] <yellabs-r2> hi linux, new to this eh ?
[08:27] <pds_> wotter please use english
[08:27] <wotter> я просто особо не шарю
[08:27] <svetlana> wotter, нам не дадут здесь разговаривать, надо на ДРУГОМ канале.
[08:27] <wotter> да не надо тебе инглишь инглишь
[08:27] <STMelon> are you a developer svetlana or just a freenode IRCOP?
[08:27] <wotter> Куда пойдем???
[08:27] <STMelon> there is a difference between those two
[08:27] <DJones> wotter: This channel is English language only, please join #ubuntu-ru for Russian language support
[08:27] <svetlana> wotter, /join #ubuntu-ru
[08:28] <linux_lilei> hello
[08:28] <pds_> well darn kickstart is down
[08:28] <svetlana> STMelon, I'm a volunteer at a few projects, with freenode being one of them.
[08:28] <svetlana> linux_lilei, hi.
[08:28] <STMelon> IRC is not a developer
[08:28] <linux_lilei> hi
[08:28] <Symmetria> anyone know how large the entire archive file set is for ubuntu?
[08:28] <STMelon> that is moderation of an irc chat server
[08:28] <STMelon> ircd, modules etc etc
[08:28] <NoGameNoLiiife_-> hello
[08:28] <STMelon> completely different than being a "package developer"
[08:29] <svetlana> STMelon: I'm not doing packaging, that is correct.
[08:29] <NoGameNoLiiife_-> my name ist your mother
[08:29] <STMelon> but carry on, not here to argu in a OS room
[08:29] <STMelon> argue*
[08:29] <yellabs-r2> totem video player has no geometry option ?
[08:29] <AntChe> Hi. Do you know an url where battery consumption comparison between Unity, Gnome, Gnome classic, Xubuntu, Lubuntu  is delivered ?
[08:29] <svetlana> STMelon: good we agree there :)
[08:30] <DJones> Symmetria: This is a couple of years old, but gives a few answers to that http://askubuntu.com/questions/21605/what-is-the-size-of-ubuntu-repository
[08:30] <ObrienDave> AntChe, way too many variables to determine a decent comparison for battery life
[08:31] <pds_> hmm i wonder how i can just kickstart the boot.iso
[08:32] <DJones> Symmetria: For Maverick, the repo size was 68GiB, in March 2011, somebody download everything (32/64 bit) for Lucid to MNaverick and got around 475GB
[08:32] <Symmetria> djones *hrm* Im rsynching my new mirror server now and I'm already at way bigger than that
[08:33] <ObrienDave> you might need a bigger HD ;P
[08:33] <Symmetria> its been running for 12 hours now and so far its pulled a little under 800gig
[08:33] <DJones> Symmetria: That doesn't surprise me, new releases will have gotten bigger since then and probably older releases that have been dropped will have been smaller
[08:33] <svetlana> pds_: the tutorial has steps to follow which would let you kickstart the thing, I thought. With all due acknowledgments to me being new to that process, you have not told what your problem is.
[08:33] <Symmetria> lol obrien its not space I have an issue with, its more a case of wondering how long it will take
[08:33] <DJones> Symmetria: Hope your not on dial up internet with that :)
[08:33] <Symmetria> ./dev/md0        121T  717G  120T   1% /mirror-data
[08:33] <Symmetria> ;p
[08:34] <ObrienDave> holy cr** 121T????
[08:35] <function9> Symmetria: there's a good tutorial on kppp if you have issues on network connections. :P
[08:35] <svetlana> unsurprisingly some research clusters and some other big data things run ubuntu
[08:35] <AntChe> thanks, ObrienDave. Lubuntu uses the less power battery when Unity uses the highest ?
[08:36] <pds_> svetlana once again i want to use the kickstart file that i wrote and host it one a seperate machine (server) so i can freely swap out kistart config files if i want
[08:36] <ZujkisNx> Hi! Is it possible to extend alias? For eg: I have alias ft=python run test; And I want to run python run test.foo; ft.foo doesn't work.. is it even possible?
[08:36] <ObrienDave> AntChe, that would probably be a good start. still it depends on your computer, running apps, way too many things to consider
[08:37] <pds_> the question is how can i only kickstart the boot.iso file so that i can kickstart it
[08:37] <auvajs> please help I recently upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 but now have a bıg problem. when I try to log in into my account after my laptop was in sleep there is a black screen only.. Im writing from text console now...
[08:37] <pds_> whith ks=linux <url here>
[08:37] <svetlana> pds_, doesn't the page you linked explain how to kickstart the .iso?
[08:39] <svetlana> ZujkisNx: hi.
[08:39] <svetlana> ZujkisNx: try to put it into single quotes. The web mentions «alias lock='gnome-screensaver; gnome-screensaver-command --lock'» could work, for instance.
[08:39] <linux_lilei> hi
[08:41] <auvajs> anyone any idea whats wrong with
[08:41] <Guest25075> hi im new to lubuntu but was given a disc by a friend and i have installed it on a lot of ex school pcs. its all running fine except wifi wont connect. can someone talk me through it please?
[08:43] <svetlana> Guest25075, hi.
[08:43] <Guest25075> hi
[08:46] <kippi> hey
[08:46] <JoshH99> hey everyone, got myself in a new predicament tonight... trying to uninstall mariadb in favor of vanilla mysql since i've had some issues with mdb 10.0 since it veered away a bit on compatibility. I thought I finished uninstalling mariadb before installing mysql-server, but apparently I didn't. So now apt wants to install mysql before removing maria, but mysql can't set the root password with maria installed, which leaves
[08:46] <JoshH99>  me with a hanging install process and I have to open new ssh tabs each time. any ideas on how to kill apt's desire to finish installing mysql-server first?
[08:46] <ObrienDave> purge it?
[08:46] <anddam> is it correct for Desktop Sharing not to be in System Settings on 14.04?
[08:47] <svetlana> Guest25075, I'll give you more information in a minute.
[08:47] <svetlana> Guest25075, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide has troubleshooting instructions.
[08:47] <kippi> I have a dell laptop e5540 and ubuntu is picking up the 2nd screen, however there is no output on the screen, I have got it to work once after the laptop woke up from sleeping, using 14.04, any ideas where to start? I have installed the intel drivers too
[08:48] <kuhno> is there a support channel for MATE?
[08:48] <ObrienDave> probably
[08:48] <Guest25075> ta
[08:49] <Guest47233> hey all. I have an issue with the ubuntu 14.04 amd 64 installation on my acer aspire v3. Ubuntu UI is freezing and to unfreeze it i have to enter one of the "background terminals" (using ctrl+alt+F4) for example and then going back to UI with ctrl+alt+f7. any idea how to resolve this issue?
[08:49] <DJones> kuh: #mate according to their website
[08:49] <DJones> kuh: Sorry, mistab
[08:49] <Wolfium> hey all. I have an issue with the ubuntu 14.04 amd 64 installation on my acer aspire v3. Ubuntu UI is freezing and to unfreeze it i have to enter one of the "background terminals" (using ctrl+alt+F4) for example and then going back to UI with ctrl+alt+f7. any idea how to resolve this issue?
[09:06] <Symmetria> heh ObrienDave lol, sorry I disappeared there for a second
[09:06] <Symmetria> yeah, its 121 terabytes in that system
[09:07] <Symmetria> and its got a bundle of 4 x 10G ethernet interfaces in an LACP lag into it ;p
[09:07] <Symmetria> and 192 gigs of ram or something
[09:07] <jackbrown> does anyone knows id this program works   ? I https://plus.google.com/+clownfish/posts
[09:07] <ObrienDave> yikes, i bow to your storage prowness ;P
[09:07] <Guest25075> svetlana: i read the link but i still dont know whats going on. my wifi dongle is recognised and scans for networks. when it tries to connect it seems not to get an ip, then after a few minutes of trying it gives up and powers down the dongle. i tried with 2 tested good dongles.
[09:08] <Symmetria> ObrienDave lol its our new mirror server
[09:08] <Symmetria> but I've had endless problems with it and ubuntu because ubuntu does very wierd things with lots of network interfaces
[09:08] <Symmetria> it doesnt seem to wanna keep the network interface names the same between reboots
[09:08] <svetlana> Guest25075, does it give you an error message?
[09:09] <Symmetria> also had a huge amount of problems actually getting that disk space linked to the machine, stupid dell software that really doesnt like anything that isn't windows or deadrat
[09:09] <ObrienDave> way beyond my knowledge of Linux in general
[09:09] <Guest25075> svetlana: no error message.
[09:10] <Symmetria> thoughts and comments on ext4 vs xfs for huge file systems btw?
[09:10] <Guest25075> im trying from desktop, no errors
[09:10] <jackbrown> does anyone knows id this program works   ? I https://plus.google.com/+clownfish/posts
[09:11] <histo> jackbrown: you'd probably have to ask the author if he has source code available
[09:11] <jackbrown> histo: can anyone check if this works on their system ? it's a 800kb program
[09:12] <somsip> jackbrown: FAQ suggests its no longer supported because Skype pulled API access late last year
[09:12] <jackbrown> ok
[09:13] <jpentland> how can I echo the point a block device is mounted at, so I can use it in a script?
[09:13] <Bryce> my hash does match
[09:13] <somsip> jackbrown: mount | grep {device}
[09:13] <jackbrown> somsip: sorry?
[09:14] <somsip> jackbrown: sorry - meant for jpentland
[09:14] <histo> jpentland: from lsblk ?? or output of mount
[09:14] <somsip> jpentland: ^^
[09:14] <MACscr> im running ubuntu on a server and during the boot, it seems to change resolution which i find odd since its not setup to boot to a gui or anything like that. i find it odd thought the cli font is so small. Any ideas why that might happen and how i can avoid it?
[09:15] <somsip> MACscr: how are you connecting to it to see that the font is small?
[09:15] <MACscr> somsip: i have a lcd monitor that i connect to the servers when troubleshooting them
[09:16] <MACscr> you can see it change font sizes during the boot process
[09:16] <somsip> MACscr: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[09:16] <histo> jpentland: or grab it rigth from /proc/mounts
[09:16] <MACscr> nope, but i will. thanks for the tip
[09:17] <somsip> MACscr: no experience myself, but highly voted here http://askubuntu.com/questions/173220/how-do-i-change-the-font-or-the-font-size-in-the-tty-console
[09:18] <aurs> where is Obi-Wan Kenobi? He's my only hope https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wireshark/+bug/1311173/comments/10
[09:18] <jpentland> somsip, histo, yeah i guess all of these methods mean I'll need  to do some processing on the output to actually get what i want. I can handle that though I was just hoping mount or somethign would have a flag to just give the info i was looking for.
[09:18] <somsip> jpentland: what information are you looking for?
[09:19] <jpentland> somsip, just the mount point, eg "hypothetical-command /dev/sdb1" would return "/media/mountpoint"
[09:20] <histo> jpentland: grep /dev/sdb1 /proc/mounts | cut -d ' ' -f 2
[09:21] <somsip> jpentland: mount | grep sdd1 | awk '{print $3}'
[09:21] <jpentland> histo, somsip both work, thanks :)
[09:22] <somsip> jpentland: typo on device name in mine...
[09:22] <histo> mine to
[09:22] <histo> no just his nvm.
[09:22] <histo> gawd i'm tired
[09:23] <somsip> IKWYM...
[09:23] <jpentland> i had to change the device in both cases anyway
[09:23] <histo> jpentland: so just substitute the /dev/sdX# with the variable of your choice in your script
[09:24] <jpentland> yeah I will use $1 or something
[09:24] <histo> jpentland: what are you trying to make?
[09:25] <jpentland> I'm assuming a certain partition table on an sd card, but the automount point might change based on the label, then i want to install some software there using a script
[09:26] <histo> jpentland: you could identify it /dev/disk/by-id/
[09:26] <histo> jpentland: does it show up there?
[09:26] <jpentland> histo, i see a bunch of stuff there but i dont really know what I'm looking at. Most of it is using some kind of non-human-readable system
[09:27] <histo> jpentland: ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/
[09:28] <jpentland> histo, ah ok they are simlinks to the block devices
[09:28] <histo> jpentland: referenced by serial number
[09:44] <calzifer> hi, i have installed my system in english (us) but in unity added german and japanese. US/English is used as default language and regional format is set to germany but chrome/ium can't display japanese characters in bookmarks. How can I fix that?
[09:50] <Buzzer> calzifer: can you try running locale -a in a terminal? What does it output?
[09:51] <calzifer> Buzzer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7769575/
[09:55] <Buzzer> calzifer: Okay, so the locales are properly installed. Now this is guesswork, but it may be that the websites in question use a Japanese specific encoding like SJIS that the browser has trouble with. Do you have an example of a problematic website? Does bookmarking http://mainichi.jp/ result in the same problem?
[09:55] <calzifer> yes, even the tab window has problems
[09:56] <calzifer> i can see the website and read the japanese text's but can't write any japanese characters or see kanji in bookmarks or tabs
[09:57] <Buzzer> calzifer: Is the problem Chromium specific or does it apply to other browsers like Firefox as well? And did you reboot after installing the Japanese locale?
[09:57] <Armageddon> Hello, I'd like to ask about a way to create customized spins off of 14.04. Remastersys was EOLed and so were most of the applications that I used to use. Any suggestions on ones that work ?
[09:57] <calzifer> in firefox it works without a problem and i did reboot after installing the Japanese locale
[09:59] <FoodPlease> whats the best way for me to install osx Yosemity on a usb?> so i can install it on my mac?
[10:00] <cfhowlett> FoodPlease osx yosemite?  OSX is not supported here.
[10:01] <FoodPlease> cfhowlett, jus realize clicked wrong chat
[10:01] <cfhowlett> FoodPlease it happens.  best of luck.
[10:10] <Buzzer> calzifer: If the titles display as boxes rather than garbage it may be a font problem, though I wouldn't know what font Chromium would expect that Ubuntu doesn't install by itself when you requested the locale. You could try a shotgun approach of installing a load of Japanese font packages. If it's not the fonts either it looks very much like a Chromium problem, but I have no idea what it could be. You could
[10:10] <Buzzer> try installing a beta/alpha build to see whether it's just in the current stable
[10:11] <calzifer> Buzzer: if i set my system completely to japanese it works, is it possible, that chrome only works with one (main) language?
[10:11] <calzifer> Buzzer: i already tried to install as man as possible japanese fonts
[10:12] <calzifer> many*
[10:13] <alfonsojon> calzifer: if i recall correctly, Chrome uses its own language preferences
[10:13] <calzifer> alfonsojon: do you know, how i can set the language preferences?
[10:14] <ed>  hi, im having trouble setting up wifi on lubuntu. cant get it to associate with the unsecured network. tried gui and iwconfig. card is installed and seeing wifi. please help
 it tries but never actually associates and then shuts down wifi after a few tries
 wifi dongle installed correct and tested in other system
 also other dongle tested the same
 any ideas
[10:14] <alfonsojon> I'm on my phone but I can help out
[10:14] <alfonsojon> Open chrome://settings
[10:14] <alfonsojon> click the search box, type "language"
[10:15] <calzifer> ok
[10:15] <alfonsojon> it should show the settings for languages and input
[10:16] <calzifer> i just added japanese, it was missing
[10:16] <alfonsojon> calzifer: Is it working now?
[10:17] <calzifer> alfonsojon: no effect :(
[10:17] <alfonsojon> calzifer: hmmm...
[10:18] <Guest5913>  hi, im having trouble setting up wifi on lubuntu. cant get it to associate with the unsecured network. tried gui and iwconfig. card is installed and seeing wifi. please help
[10:18] <Guest5913> it tries but never actually associates and then shuts down wifi after a few tries
[10:18] <Guest5913>  wifi dongle installed correct and tested in other system
[10:18] <Guest5913>  also other dongle tested the same
[10:18] <Guest5913>  any ideas? im desperate because i have 10 computers to sort out the same
[10:18] <alfonsojon> Guest5913: what dongle?
[10:19] <ObrienDave> he probably means USB wi-fi adapter
[10:19] <Buzzer> Just installed Chromium 35 on the Arch system I'm currently on and it displays Japanese tabs fine even when Japanese is not explicitly listed. I think that's one version ahead of the Ubuntu repositories, though
[10:19] <Buzzer> calzifer: you could try your luck with https://askubuntu.com/questions/225930/how-do-i-get-the-latest-beta-and-development-version-of-chromium
[10:20] <pds_> trying to kickstart ubuntu getting PXE-E32: TFTOP open timeout
[10:20] <calzifer> Buzzer: ok, thank you i'll try that
[10:20] <arpx> Hi
[10:20] <function9> hi
[10:20] <pds_> TFTP that is
[10:20] <Armageddon> Hello, I'd like to ask about a way to create customized spins off of 14.04. Remastersys was EOLed and so were most of the applications that I used to use. Any suggestions on ones that work ?
[10:21] <Buzzer> Though I should add that while using non-stable builds solves bugs sometimes it may introduce other ones
[10:21] <Caroga> Armageddon, what do u mean ?
[10:21] <calzifer> Buzzer: just checked out...i use google chrome it's already the latest version
[10:21] <FUNWEEK> best ubuntu supported laptop
[10:22] <Caroga> FUNWEEK, I would go with the asus
[10:22] <Armageddon> Caroga: remastersys alternatives that work with 14.04 !
[10:22] <Caroga> ah gotcha
[10:22] <cfhowlett> FUNWEEK dell xps 13 developer seems quite nice, but there IS no BEST.
[10:22] <svetlana> FUNWEEK, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/models/?release=14.04%20LTS&category=Laptop and http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/models/?release=12.04%20LTS&category=Laptop
[10:22] <function9> Armageddon: pendrive is apparently good
[10:23] <Buzzer> calzifer: Oh, I didn't know mainline Chrome is also an option for Linux. But Chromium has the same behavior?
[10:23] <arpx> I use an Alienware
[10:23] <Caroga> Armageddon, did you check alternativeto.net ?
[10:23] <calzifer> Buzzer: i start to think it is a ubuntu problem (i have the same problem on my kubuntu machine) on debian it works without a problem
[10:23] <arpx> Dual boot win 8 and Ubuntu
[10:23] <FUNWEEK> any other best alternate to dell
[10:23] <Caroga> cfhowlett, actually therre is.
[10:23] <Armageddon> Caroga: that wouldn't help, you know that it needs to be OS specific right ?
[10:24] <arpx> Are system76 good?
[10:24] <svetlana> FUNWEEK, Yes, in the link I gave, and what people suggested. They named a few manufacturers for you.
[10:24] <Caroga> You can choose for specific OS on their site
[10:24] <alfonsojon> calzifer: Have you tried Chromium?
[10:24] <Armageddon> function9: pendrive creates a bootable USB from an ISO, can it create an ISO from a currently installed OS though ?
[10:24] <calzifer> alfonsojon: just tried it with chromium, same problem like chrome
[10:24] <Caroga> cfhowlett, FUNWEEK, check http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux-ultrabook-lc22.html
[10:24] <cfhowlett> Armageddon no you need an ISO
[10:25] <Armageddon> cfhowlett: that doesn't help. I need to make a customized version of Ubuntu 14.04
[10:25] <cfhowlett> Caroga allow me to retort ... http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[10:25] <Caroga> hahaha i know it.
[10:25] <Caroga> knew*
[10:26] <Guest5913> alfonsojon: rtl8192
[10:27] <arpx> What is planned for the next Ubuntu release
[10:27] <arpx> I'm curious
[10:28] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|arpx
[10:28] <arpx> Oh
[10:28] <Guest5913> alfonsojon: its working on my laptop fine on xubuntu but none of the lubuntu pcs will associate
[10:28] <arpx> Just curious
[10:28] <alfonsojon> Guest5913: I need a
[10:29] <alfonsojon> Some form of way to identify the wireless card
[10:29] <cfhowlett> !wifi|alfo
[10:29] <function9> Armageddon: oh sorry https://launchpad.net/relinux
[10:31] <Armageddon> function9: when I tried it a while back it wasn't working, now I can see the announcement made not to use 0.4 ;)
[10:32] <Guest5913> alfonsojon: its an rtl8192cu given by nm-tool
[10:33] <Guest5913> like i say it scans ok
[10:34] <Armageddon> function9: also, the repository is not working anymore
[10:34] <alfonsojon> Guest5913: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/852190
[10:34] <alfonsojon> This is a known bug
[10:35] <alfonsojon> It appears you can work around this by downloading the drivers from Realtek
[10:36] <Guest5913> alfonsojon: cheers, but how can i get this installed on the machines that have no network?
[10:37] <Gonzo89> I run "./configure parameters" with many output is there a way to few errors ? logfile or anything else
[10:37] <Guest5913> alfonsojon: i can only do it via usb stick
[10:38] <Guest5913> alfonsojon: i also tried an old zydas stick that did the same thing
[10:39] <alfonsojon> Guest5813: put drivers on flash drive
[10:39] <FUNWEEK> how about lenovo laptops for ubutu 14.04?
[10:39] <alfonsojon> insert flash drive
[10:39] <alfonsojon> install driver
[10:40] <cfhowlett> FUNWEEK ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or read the wiki
[10:40] <frib> Hello--i'm trying to connect to a wifi network in ubuntu with usb adapter and every now and then instead of connecting it just creates a hotspot with an incorrect ip address (not of the wifi's lan)
[10:41] <frib> is this a known bug?
[10:41] <alfonsojon> frib: chipset model please
[10:42] <frib> alfonsojon: alfa awus036h
[10:42] <alfonsojon> !wifi|frib
[10:42] <Guest5913> alfonsojon: thanks will try this
[10:42] <alfonsojon> if you need help finding thr chipset
[10:42] <alfonsojon> s/thr/the
[10:43] <alfonsojon> frib: chipset name, not model
[10:43] <alfonsojon> see the wifi docs
[10:44] <frib> alfonsojon: rtl8187
[10:44] <ArGGu^_^> Hello I have created custom live cd and I want to set password for user and remove NOPASSWD from sudo
[10:45] <ArGGu^_^> https://answers.launchpad.net/relinux/+question/210771
[10:45] <ArGGu^_^> I tried the method in that
[10:45] <alfonsojon> frib: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/rtl8187
[10:45] <ArGGu^_^> but editing that file does not make difference
[10:46] <philinux> FUNWEEK;~ http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Lenovo/
[10:47] <FUNWEEK> i want to share my dileup connection with my phone in ubuntu
[10:47] <frib> alfonsojon: it's the strangest thing.. on boot both of my wifi cards say they are connected to the ssid but at the same time have hotspot ip addresses 10.42.0.x
[10:48] <philinux> FUNWEEK;~ never done any of that, someone else may help
[10:48] <function9> Armageddon: sorry I was on the phone. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[10:49] <FUNWEEK> anyway i can share my internet connection (3g)
[10:52] <frib> my wifi is   acting like a hotspot instead of using normal dhcp what is going on? can anyone help? thanks
[11:13] <Sondi> has anybody an idea what the problem is see error message?
[11:13] <Sondi> 2014-07-09 13:00:23.858 ERROR nova.scheduler.filter_scheduler [req-f699a7d3-e3de-40e4-b291-9ae972c7d8f9 admin demo] [instance: 55febf3d-1d56-4381-a6ca-b4b3b37e92e0] Error from last host: tb23 (node tb23): [u'Traceback (most recent call last):\n', u'  File "/opt/stack/nova/nova/compute/manager.py", line 1305, in _build_instance\n    set_access_ip=set_access_ip)\n', u'  File "/opt/stack/nova/nova/compute/manager.py", line 393, in decorated_func
[11:13] <Sondi> tion\n    return function(self, context, *args, **kwargs)\n', u'  File "/opt/stack/nova/nova/compute/manager.py", line 1717, in _spawn\n    LOG.exception(_(\'Instance failed to spawn\'), instance=instance)\n', u'  File "/opt/stack/nova/nova/openstack/common/excutils.py", line 68, in __exit__\n    six.reraise(self.type_, self.value, self.tb)\n', u'  File "/opt/stack/nova/nova/compute/manager.py", line 1714, in _spawn\n    block_device_info)\n'
[11:13] <Sondi> , u'  File "/opt/stack/nova/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py", line 2262, in spawn\n    write_to_disk=True)\n', u'  File "/opt/stack/nova/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py", line 3447, in to_xml\n    disk_info, rescue, block_device_info)\n', u'  File "/opt/stack/nova/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py", line 3263, in get_guest_config\n    flavor)\n', u'  File "/opt/stack/nova/nova/virt/libvirt/vif.py", line 384, in get_config\n    _("Unexpected vif_type=%s") %
[11:13] <Sondi>  vif_type)\n', u'NovaException: Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed\n']
[11:14] <function9> woah stack overflow
[11:14] <Sondi> sorry it was the wrong window
[11:25] <Phil42> i installed the most recent dbus update and a reboot is required but i don't want to.  how big a risk am i taking?
[11:31] <ArGGu^_^> I solved my problem, needed to update initramfs and copy new initrd to casper directory.
[11:39] <Guest5913> alfonsojon: you still there?
[11:40] <linux-addict> Hello! can I delete all the old "linux-headers-*" to get more free disk on /? Is it secure? Thanks for answer
[11:46] <Guest5913> can someone please help me compile a driver. im getting lock-smp error
[11:47] <Guest5913> smp-lock.h???
[11:48] <IceBot3000> Guest5913: What's the exact error
[11:49] <Guest5913> compile fails with error 1
[11:50] <Guest5913> fail to lock linux/smp-lock.h
[11:51] <Guest5913> im running a script to compile and install a driver
[11:52] <philinux> linux-addict;~ yep hang  on
[11:52] <Guest5913> 3.2.023 is my kernel on lubuntu
[11:52] <philinux> linux-addict;~ do the dry run in step 6 first. http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/10/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/
[11:53] <philinux> linux-addict;~ I use this regularly
[11:54] <linux-addict> philinux: what does the dry-run of apt-get exactly do?
[11:54] <philinux> linux-addict;~ it shows what will be removed if you did it for real
[11:55] <philinux> what would be
[11:55] <philinux> linux-addict;~ dry run does nothin but shows you stuff that would be removed
[11:55] <linux-addict> philinux: but it doesn't tell me if this will be harmfull for the system right?
[11:56] <philinux> linux-addict;~ it leaves the latest kernel so no worries. I run this all the time
[11:56] <linux-addict> philinux: so I can remove the linux-headers-* and linux-image-*  safely?
[11:56] <philinux> linux-addict;~ just make sure you have linux-generic installed as it always points to the latest kernel
[11:57] <mulga> Hi all, Im trying to lock down some ports on my machine, specifically everthing except 22 / 9999 - now prob w/ that, but doing a netstat -nat gives a few ipv6 listings and im not sure how to get remove them. i'm using CSF
[11:57] <philinux> linux-addict;~ yep
[11:57] <mulga> tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN
[11:57] <mulga> tcp6       0      0 :::9998                 :::*                    LISTEN
[11:57] <mulga> tcp6       0      0 :::9999                 :::*                    LISTEN
[11:57] <linux-addict> philinux: ok phil thanks!
[11:57] <mulga> would like to remove all ip6 listings
[11:58] <mulga> isit possible to disable IPv6? is that a good idea?
[11:58] <philinux> linux-addict;~ here's what it shows here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7769940/
[11:58] <linux-addict> philinux:ok thanks
[11:58] <linux-addict> philinux:  If I can help you back one day, feel free --> MP linux-addict (OTR preferred)
[11:59] <philinux> linux-addict;~ i'm running 3.13.0-30, as you see it's going to remove anything previous to that
[11:59] <Guest5913> IceBot3000: fail to lock linux/smp-lock.h, im running a script to compile and install a driver
[11:59] <Guest5913> IceBot3000: fails with error 1
[12:01] <mulga> Anyone able to offer any  suggestions?
[12:04] <IceBot3000> Yes, you can disable IPv6
[12:08] <mulga> IceBot3000: would you recomend this cmd
[12:08] <mulga> /sysctl net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6
[12:09] <dengtk> hello,who in there now?
[12:09] <mulga> or maybe blacklist ipv6 in //etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:09] <mulga> ?
[12:11] <Lewoco> Is it possible for regular users (not root) to configure a program to start running when the machine does?
[12:12] <sj13> Hello. I can't seem to download any new package from the software center directly or from the terminal. Please help.
[12:13] <Skwallinux92> Lewoco => you can still add a script to your cron
[12:13] <dkordic> Lewoco: Look for "Strtup Applications" in drop down menu in upper right corner (where shut down is).
[12:14] <dkordic> dengtk: Hi.
[12:14] <Caroga> sj13, what version ?
[12:15] <sj13> 14.04 LTS, Caroga
[12:15] <Caroga> sj13, open terminal and try sudo apt-get update
[12:15] <Skwallinux92> sj13: what's in your /etc/apt.source.list
[12:15] <Skwallinux92> ?
[12:15] <sj13> Caroga, I tried doing that. It works, but I still can't install anything.
[12:16] <Lewoco> Skwallinux92, Yeah vixie cron looks like it might do the track.
[12:16] <Caroga> what's the error you are getting ? Also, what Skwallinux92 asked, what are the contents of your sources.list ?
[12:16] <Werel> I've been trying to make a LiveUSB of nix but I find there's no persistance whatsoever, even though I give it over two gigs to work with.  Would I be able to 'install' my distro to a usb stick, and do it without affecting the current setup of my computer, as in the HD and the cirrent boot sector?
[12:18] <sj13> Caroga, Skwallinux92, this is the error: http://pastebin.com/dxsDTerw
[12:18] <Lewoco> Skwallinux92, Actually the process I want to run is a daemon. Vixie looks good for running a once off but it looks not well suited to keeping a process running indefinitely and restarting it if necessary.
[12:19] <Lewoco> Skwallinux92, I suppose I could hack together some half-arsed script to try and do it myself but is there something that already exists to do this?
[12:19] <Caroga> sj13, you need to also set your locales
[12:20] <Caroga> it seems your system runs en_IN, correct?
[12:21] <dkordic> Lewoco: That is the purpose of initd or systemd, but I know nothing about them.
[12:21] <Caroga> sj13, have you modified your locales after the installation ?
[12:23] <ener2> is there a tutorial for making custom packages?
[12:23] <sj13> Caroga, Skwallinux92, here are the contents on sources.list: http://pastebin.com/U1rTTKue
[12:23] <sj13> Caroga, no I haven't. I am fairly new to Linux.
[12:23] <Skwallinux92> sj13: try to do a "dpkg-reconfigure locales"
[12:24] <Skwallinux92> and choose you language@utf8
[12:24] <DJones> !packaging | This might be a good starter for you,
[12:24] <svetlana> ener: to package new software? Something like http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html ?
[12:24] <svetlana> Thank you, DJones.
[12:24] <ener2> svetlana: thank you. What if the program wants to have some files in some directories? Like /usr/lib ?
[12:25] <svetlana> ener2, the links ubottu gave have extra documentation. Can't tell this specific details without reading it all. :)
[12:25] <philinux> sj13;~ that would need  . sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[12:25] <Caroga> sj13, what Skwallinux92 said.try that. Based on your error you should choose your current locale en_IN.ISO8859-1
[12:26] <Caroga> or en_IN.UTF-8
[12:26] <ener2> svetlana: well the link you sent only contains way to make it from make
[12:26] <ener2> I don't have make
[12:26] <makara> hi. I'm trying to get some background on what's going on in Germany re: open source technology
[12:27] <philinux> makara;~ check out munich
[12:27] <makara> Googling just gets me the usual stories about cities changing systems
[12:27] <philinux> !off-topic
[12:27] <svetlana> ener2: ubottu has sent more links by DJones's request. -- This is a new area to me and if I wanted to know an answer, I would immediately go and read its links, like you're doing, with little chances of getting to do it sooner.
[12:28] <svetlana> makara: Hi. Interesting topic. You might find more in #ubuntu-de (or their offtopic channel, if they have one).
[12:29] <makara> ok, thanks
[12:29] <philinux> makara;~ you could ask in here there are users from Germany http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=11
[12:30] <svetlana> ener2, what do you use instead of make? Whatever you use to install the package from sources -- you'll have to write it down in a few files I believe.
[12:30] <ener2> nothing, really. I have compiled pyc files in correct directories where they should be placed by package
[12:32] <Caroga> sj13, any success?
[12:34] <dkordic> ener2: Have You seen Python packaging documentation?  Make it compatible with pip.
[12:34] <svetlana> ener2, I see. One minute.
[12:34] <ener2> dkordic: this is one time work, I want to do it without modifying source or anything
[12:34] <dkordic> ener2: Take a look at ``$ sudo apt-get install quickly''.
[12:35] <svetlana> ener2, I believe you have to write a setup.py, and then package it into a .deb package. I'm looking for pretty documentation of the process.
[12:36] <ener2> svetlana: why setup.py?
[12:36] <ener2> I just want to take all the files in pkg/usr/lib/whatever that will be put in /usr/lib/whatever
[12:36] <ener2> I don't need to compile anything
[12:37] <sj13> I reconfigured the locales. I can download from the software center now. But I have a lot of broken packages I installed previously, how to remove them?
[12:37] <sj13> Caroga, ^^
[12:38] <svetlana> ener2, you don't want the package to go into Ubuntu? Only for your personal installs?
[12:40] <Caroga> sj13, it gives a list of broken packages right? try apt-get update first, then install the package again (since this will update the installed package as well)
[12:40] <svetlana> ener2: http://www.wefearchange.org/2010/05/from-python-package-to-ubuntu-package.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek1001/PyAppsPkgs and the link in the latter. -- Otherwise try something minimal from http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ and the like and try to skip the language-specific steps.
[12:40] <Caroga> if you really want to remove all of them, then sudo apt-get purge <list of packages>
[12:42] <sj13> I tried that, it doesn't work. I can still find the files in var/lib/dpkg/info, Caroga
[12:43] <anddam> what kind of server id Remote Desktop on 14.04?
[12:44] <anddam> I enabled remote control for my user and I'm trying to connect from an OS X host with two different VNS server
[12:44] <anddam> VNS clients*
[12:44] <anddam> VNC**
[12:44] <ubuntuser13> screen turns blacks when playing video on vlc and system login screen came
[12:44] <anddam> both say the server "is incompatible"
[12:45] <philinux> ubuntuser13;~ which ubuntu version and what graphics card?
[12:46] <ubuntuser13> philinux: ubuntu 14.04 64bit and amd radeon 5450 and dell e1914 monitor.
[12:47] <philinux> ubuntuser13;~ not experienced with Radeon driver, someone who is might help better
[12:48] <ubuntuser13> philinux; no problem thanks for help .
[12:49] <Daghdha> Is there any webcam software in ubuntu? Or do i need to add it? I just plugged in an USB cam but nothing happened.
[12:53] <ubuntuser13> daghdha: yes use cheese webcam software .
[12:53] <philinux> Daghdha;~ or Skype for linux
[12:54] <Daghdha> heh i just found sudo apt-get install cheese
[12:54] <Daghdha> ubuntuser13: Will it allow me to stream it to other computer?
[12:54] <philinux> Daghdha;~ i have a built in cam on this lappy, it wont activate with software
[12:55] <Daghdha> I just wanna put the webcam on my nas and look at it from other machines
[12:55] <Daghdha> cheese doesn't seem to do that.
[12:55] <Daghdha> I can install it anyway to see of the camera works
[12:56] <philinux> Daghdha;~ http://xmodulo.com/2013/09/live-stream-video-webcam-linux.html
[12:57] <Daghdha> wow cheese needs a lot of libs
[12:57] <Daghdha> hope system don't die after that install
[12:57] <Daghdha> ok.. works
[13:00] <Daghdha> i will have a stab at that philinux
[13:01] <philinux> Daghdha;~ more time gobbled up there I bet
[13:01] <mulga> can someone please help me disable the following IPv6 ports that i have open (22 and 9999) i want them open for IP4 not for IP6
[13:01] <mulga> netstat -nat   give the folling
[13:02] <philinux> Daghdha;~ just search ubuntu stream webcam lots of more ways ;)
[13:02] <mulga> tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN
[13:02] <mulga> tcp6       0      0 :::9998                 :::*                    LISTEN
[13:02] <mulga> tcp6       0      0 :::9999                 :::*                    LISTEN
[13:02] <Daghdha> ofcourse. vlc v4l2:///dev/video0
[13:02] <Daghdha> And the screen turns blood red with warnings and errors.
[13:02] <llutz> mulga: set "AddressFamily inet " in sshd_config
[13:02] <llutz> mulga: for port 9999 check the docu of the service you run there
[13:03] <mulga> llutz: i have setup 22 and 9999 for TCP and that's fine, however it's also enabled 22/9999 for TCP6
[13:04] <llutz> mulga: so you have sshd listen on 22 AND 9999? change sshd_config as chown to make it listen ip4 only
[13:05] <Daghdha> philinux: What should have happened when i did vlc v4l2:///dev/video0 ?
[13:06] <mulga> Thats right. Ok i'll have a look at sshd_config now
[13:07] <llutz> mulga: you need to restart ssh after that
[13:07] <mulga> actually i setup 22 and 9999 open using CSF. Should i do it through that or...
[13:07] <mulga> yep - restart service = check
[13:11] <mulga> llutz ?
[13:12] <llutz> mulga: ?
[13:12] <onats> hey guys
[13:12] <onats> im about to convert about 20 or so desktops from windows to ubuntu.
[13:12] <onats> any central management stuff i should install?
[13:12] <onats> apt-cacher is one
[13:12] <mulga> I actually setup ports 22 and 9999 tto open ww/ CSF. Should i do it through that or...
[13:12] <onats> like central management for users? is there such?
[13:13] <llutz> mulga: idk what csf is, use "sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config" and add "AddressFamily inet", then "sudo restart ssh"
[13:13] <MadTux> does anyone know what the process do_option while installing Xubuntu is?
[13:13] <robairt> anyone tried out that new chrome remote desktop for linux?
[13:13] <mulga> Config Server Firewall (CSF) . Ok thanks il try that out now
[13:13] <philinux> Daghdha;~ hang on i'll test it here, coffee first
[13:14] <Daghdha> I gonna check gstreamer
[13:15] <philinux> Daghdha;~ got a picture of me, surprised look on face
[13:15] <designbybeck> I'm trying to manually install Wireless drivers on a MacBook Air because I can't access the internet via wifi. I foundt he boradcom drivers and copied them to the Mac via USB...but how do I install them?
[13:16] <philinux> Daghdha;~ i suspect it's a graphics card driver issue at your end
[13:16] <mulga> llutz: OK. That successfully removed ::22, but ::9999 still remains. Any ideas?
[13:17] <philinux> Daghdha;~ vlc version here is 2.1.4
[13:17] <Daghdha> philinux: Think it may be webcam - http://pastebin.com/HfzD2KPa
[13:17] <Daghdha> Phaiax 2.0.8 here
[13:17] <Daghdha> philinux ^^
[13:18] <llutz> mulga: did you run 2 different ssh-servers or setup two Listen statements in /etc/ssh/sshd_config?   you might set "ListenAddress 0.0.0.0" too
[13:20] <philinux> Daghdha;~ vlc v4l2:///dev/video0  VLC media player 2.1.4 Rincewind (revision 2.1.4-0-g2a072be)[0xdab118] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[13:20] <llutz> mulga: sry, "Port" statements, not "Listen"
[13:20] <mulga> no just the one ssh.
[13:20] <mulga> # Allow incoming TCP ports
[13:20] <mulga> TCP_IN = "22,9999"
[13:20] <mulga> # Allow outgoing TCP ports
[13:20] <mulga> TCP_OUT = "22,9999"
[13:21] <philinux> Daghdha;~ try it with cvlc
[13:21] <Daghdha> same message
[13:21] <philinux> which webcam model
[13:21] <llutz> mulga: thats not sshd_config
[13:21] <mulga> is that what you mean by two statements? i would have thought incom/outg were both necessary?
[13:21] <Daghdha> says i don't know how to handle fourcc ;MJPG'
[13:21] <mulga> no,this is in csf.conf
[13:22] <mulga> no portstatements in sshd_config at all
[13:22] <philinux> Daghdha;~ webcam model and graphics card model
[13:22] <llutz> mulga: then ask the csf-devs about support
[13:22] <onats> how much does ubuntu advantage cost?
[13:22] <Daghdha> philinux: odd, software center doesn't know i have VLC. I will instal
[13:23] <philinux> Daghdha;~ apt-cache policy vlc
[13:23] <philinux> Daghdha;~ I'm running 14.04 ubuntu 64 bit here
[13:23] <mulga> llutz: ok.thankyou for your help none the less. you were very helpful
[13:23] <mulga> much appreciated
[13:23] <llutz> mulga: normal way would be to define "Port xx\nPort yyy" in sshd_config and use the addressfamily option to restrict it to IPv4 only
[13:23] <Daghdha> philinux: *too many people with ph here :) * i am still on 12.04 waiting for upgrade
[13:24] <llutz> mulga: "man sshd_config" for more info
[13:24] <Daghdha> philinux: Webcam is some ancient hercules, graphics is onboard intel.
[13:24] <mulga> ok. thanks again
[13:24] <anddam> any hint about the VNC thing? is there a specific protocol version I should be checking for?
[13:24] <heap> hi, any good desktop search tool?
[13:24] <Pici> onats: Looks like you can see prices by clicking through the links here: http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=41
[13:25] <onats> Pici: yeah sorry… didnt see it earlier.
[13:25] <philinux> Daghdha;~ mine is Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[13:25] <llutz> mulga: the TCP IN/OUT you wrote above are for iptables (firewall) i'd guess, not affecting ssh-server
[13:25] <onats> Pici:  would you know a ‘free’ version? :)
[13:25] <mulga> it applies / works when using csf too
[13:26] <philinux> Daghdha;~ you could try vlc ppa and get a later version, me suspects webcam itself
[13:26] <llutz> mulga: yes they create iptables rules, but won't control the way sshd works.
[13:26] <Daghdha> webcam is fine in cheese
[13:26] <philinux> Daghdha;~ although it works with cheese
[13:26] <Pici> onats: uh .. Ubuntu Advantage is essentially paid support.  The forums, IRC, and other community support vectors would be the alternative.
[13:26] <Daghdha> fixed
[13:26] <Daghdha> philinux: I installed VLC and now it works. 12.04 repo version
[13:26] <onats> Pici: im looking for a centralized management tool for multiple desktops
[13:27] <mulga> ah,that's right. but i'm not actually interested on how it affects  sshd, its necessary for a crypto daemon im running on my server
[13:27] <philinux> Daghdha;~ ah marvellous, how you install it before
[13:28] <llutz> mulga: well, if you run a public server, you should be interested in how things work...
[13:28] <Daghdha> i think i have maybe uninstalled it because that machine is headless. But the executables vlc and cvlc where still available. It was lacking some libs maybe
[13:28] <acetakwas> hi, how can I monitor which services are using internet and optionally disable then?
[13:28] <mulga> not public.but thats for your concern
[13:28] <Pici> onats: There are a number of different configuration management suites available, but I'm by no means an expert in them. I just know they exist.
[13:28] <philinux> Daghdha;~ have fun
[13:28] <mulga> *thats = thanks
[13:28] <Daghdha> thanks for help :)
[13:29] <Pici> onats: puppet, chef, salt, ansible, etc.  There are probably friendlier front ends for some of them.  It is more of a roll-your-own sort of thing though.
[13:29] <onats> thanks
[13:29] <onats> Pici: will start my search on those
[13:29] <Pici> np
[13:31] <acetakwas> Pici, is that for me>
[13:31] <Daghdha> Is there anyway to see what application is using what ports?
[13:31] <Daghdha> top
[13:31] <llutz> Daghdha: sudo lsof -i :portno
[13:32] <llutz> Daghdha: or: netstat -tulpen
[13:33] <Guest89244> hi
[13:33] <Guest89244> problem with power
[13:33] <acetakwas> anyone, how can I monitor which services are using internet and optionally disable then?
[13:34] <Caroga> acetakwas, install iotop
[13:34] <Daghdha> thanks llutz, putting thos in my handy commands file :)
[13:36] <heap> recoll?
[13:41] <anddam> and Real VNC doesn't work either with Ubuntu's server
[13:42] <Guest29381> anyone know why my compile of driver software failed code 2 linux/smp-lock.h no such file or directory??????????????
[13:43] <Daghdha> philinux: It works, but the stream is realy bad, i have better result using VNC and cheese.
[13:43] <heap> i didnt set anything! related to ipv6 while aptitude update produced :
[13:43] <heap> W: Failed to fetch http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release.gpg  Cannot initiate the connection to cz.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:1488:ffff::63). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:1488:ffff::63 80]
[13:44] <heap> any idea?
[13:44] <philinux> Daghdha;~ you mean slow and choppy with vlc
[13:44] <Daghdha> philinux: to the extreme
[13:44] <Daghdha> philinux: in cheese over VNC it's fluent
[13:45] <heap> i did aptitude update w/out any problem yesterday and today its brokent. thats brilliant.
[13:45] <philinux> Daghdha;~ i've just tried cheese and compared to vlc miles better
[13:45] <philinux> Daghdha;~ too much delay on vlc without even going over net
[13:46] <Daghdha> philinux: This cam gave me a lot of grieve with windows upgrades and lacking drivers in the past. I like how cheese just played it instantly.
[13:46] <anddam> an, here it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/1307084
[13:46] <m1chael> i am feeling very frustrated. i upgraded to 14.04 when it was released, and if i close the lid of my laptop, and re-open the lid- the computer will never recover from a black screen. i have done updates, tried fixes (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736), i just can't seem to get this fixed.. what would you guys do?
[13:46] <Daghdha> philinux: Sadly cheese misses a simple rotate effect :) But it's a nice program working so well.
[13:47]  * Daghdha tilts head to see what is going on in his street
[13:47] <MotherMGA> Anyone know how to set the default bluetooth audio profile in 14.04? I'm having two problems. 1) pulseaudio isn't loading the module-bluetooth-discover, so it never registers my headphones and then 2) once I load it with `pacmd load-module module-bluetooth-discover` it doesn't register an audio profile. blueman-manager allows me to correct this, but not the standard sound settings.  Any ideas?
[13:47] <philinux> Daghdha;~ wonder if mplayer any better
[13:48] <MotherMGA> Also: 13.10 worked flawlessly for my bluetooth.
[13:48] <Daghdha> philinux: This willd o, i will just VNC into the machine and run cheese when i wanna see. Ir stand up, and do 1 step to the window :)
[13:49] <holstein> MotherMGA: where are you looking? have you tried pavucontrol?
[13:50] <MotherMGA> to get it to work, I have to run on the CLI: `pacmd load-module module-bluetooth-discover` then I have to load "Bluetooth Manager" and change the profile from off to A2DP.
[13:50] <MotherMGA> None of those settings show in the sound settings from the indicator.
[13:50] <philinux> Daghdha;~ aha cvlc smoother than vlc fro cli
[13:50] <mulga> mulga
[13:51] <MotherMGA> however, once, I set the profile in Bluetooth Manager, they magically show up in sound settings
[13:51] <MotherMGA> If I don't load the module with pacmd, then bluetooth will connect, but never register the device at all.
[13:52] <Guest59153> hi,,,someone can tell me why a Clementine (player), not read m3u playlists ? tnx
[13:53] <philinux> Daghdha;~ here's another solution , fascinating, https://gist.github.com/endolith/2052778
[13:53] <fidel_> Guest59153: what happens if you select an m3u?
[13:53] <abckb__> hi I have made an alias in .bashrc <alias ocvcpp='g++ `pkg-config opencv --libs --cflags`'> But I get many "first.cpp:(.text+0x23): undefined reference to `cvLoadImage'" etc in main(). This alias works fine in my other distro. Would someone tell me whats the problem here?
[13:54] <Guest29381> hi im getting errors compiling wifi drivers, please help! i have several identical computers to fix!!
[13:54] <Daghdha> philinux: Seem how it should be
[13:54] <Daghdha> philinux: KISS
[13:54] <fidel_> Guest59153: you might as well ask in #clementine
nothing, starts from the start jumping all songs....tnx for #clementine ;)
[13:55] <user123321> For 2 identical Ubuntu servers (at least 2 servers), what's the best way to achieve Load Balancing and High Availability? Is CARP good?
[13:55] <philinux> Daghdha;~ well well, Motion is a program that monitors the video signal from one or more cameras and is able to detect if a significant part of the picture has changed. Or in other words, it can detect motion.
[13:56] <MotherMGA> holstein: pavucontrol doesn't show the headset at all until I do the steps I mentioned.
[13:56] <holstein> MotherMGA: sounds like a nice work around
[13:57] <holstein> you can file a bug, or look for one already listed
[13:57] <MotherMGA> holstein: yes, I can make them work, but I'd like to figure out how to fix it so I can just press my button and it register the profile like its supposed to.
[13:57] <holstein> !bug | MotherMGA
[13:57] <get52> I just installed ubuntu 14.04
[13:57] <get52> and I have a bug
[13:58] <get52> All there is is a porn picture of a 80 year old woman getting orally raped
[13:58] <holstein> MotherMGA: im always pretty happy when i can get things that done promise linux support to work at all..
[13:58] <get52> is this the update?
[13:58] <holstein> that dont promise*
[13:58] <MotherMGA> thanks
[14:01] <Daghdha> is there anyway to have ubuntu/vlc not go apeshit when i use alt-tab to switch to another program on the client side?
[14:04] <holstein> Daghdha: please watch the language.. not runing into that here.. i would look at 3d graphics support
[14:04] <pressure> aaoe
[14:04] <Daghdha> holstein: sorry. No it has to do with modifierkeys being stuck. probably alt or tab or both
[14:05] <holstein> Daghdha: you would need to elaborate then.. sounds like thats more hardware related.. try remapping or better explaining your situation
[14:05] <Daghdha> philinux: I have it running but it also saves al jpg files to disk now. It is better than VLC. But worse than Cheese over VNC
[14:07] <Daghdha> I connect to ubunto NAs from a windows machine using VNC. When i am inside the linux machine and use alt-tab to go to windows i get into wnidows. But when i go back to the VNC and i typ eletters in e.g. the shell it opens the menus. Like alt is still pressed i guess
[14:08] <holstein> Daghdha: might be a better question for the vnc client support
[14:08] <Daghdha> yeh i guess is more windows/vnc
[14:09] <holstein> !freenx
[14:10] <holstein> Daghdha: ^ you ever try nomachine/freenx ? you may prefer it if you are wanting more of a native desktop feel.. if you are playing videos over a vnc connection, which i would *never* expect to work
[14:10] <ridicule> hello
[14:11] <Daghdha> holstein: It's on a 1Gb LAN. And it's only a 640x480. It's no I-Max that's for sure but it will do.
[14:12] <Daghdha> holstein: And no i have not tried that. I don't realy work on the NAS. So it's not a big issue to have it have a slower non native desktop sluggish ness
[14:12] <holstein> Daghdha: im on a much simpler G wifi setup, and can watch video quite acceptably with freenx..
[14:12] <e^0> is their a wiki on all apt-get commands ?
[14:12] <ravigehlot> Is there an easy way to create /etc/init.d scripts using the command line?
[14:12] <holstein> Daghdha: via the softwrae i suggested, its quite native, and *not* with your network speeds
[14:12] <e^0> default package manager of ubuntu is apt-get right ?
[14:12] <holstein> !apt
[14:12] <ravigehlot> The goal is to create scripts to start on boot time
[14:13] <holstein> e^0: id say, default is the software center, vbut apt is there as well
[14:13] <e^0> holstein: i am talking about package manager
[14:13] <holstein> e^0: me too, friend..
[14:14] <kass> Hi!
[14:14] <e^0> software center is just a GUI to it, in the  back-end a package manager works i.e. apt
[14:14] <holstein> e^0: software center, apt.. etc.. though, both of those are in ubuntu
[14:14] <holstein> e^0: im not interested in arguing.. both are in ubuntu.. use which ever you need
[14:15] <Pa^2> How can I increase the size of my windows corner controls (e.g. edges and corners)
[14:16] <Beldar> Pa^2, I doubt you can without a hack.
[14:17] <e^0> holstein: just read this https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/package-management.html
[14:17] <apeoid> Pa^2 you can change size a lot with Settings > Displays > "Scale for menu and title bars"
[14:18] <e^0> holstein: i am not here to argue either, just stating the facts right
[14:18] <Pa^2> Thanks.
[14:18] <apeoid> Pa^2 that might help you if they are excessively small but it also seems to alter window content sizes and fonts as well
[14:18] <Beldar> e^0, No you are just arguing an issue that you have nothing to do with, this is support not your soapbox.
[14:18] <Roukh> hi
[14:19] <apeoid> I set mine to .875 on 21" monitor and it looks nice
[14:19] <e^0> Beldar: am i ? really..!! i am just stating things right, i don't care to correct things if it's mention wrong here. great ubuntu community :/
[14:20] <ubuntu> hi
[14:20] <Pici> Lets just move on.
[14:20] <apeoid> I kind of want to argue actually
[14:20] <Beldar> e^0, Your not specifically correct, do some actual support rather than jumping an issue that is quite open and just a matter of syntax,
[14:20] <Guest28539> fgjhfdghfg
[14:21] <bcvery> Guest28539, we see you, do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[14:21] <robairt> grumpy room this morning
[14:22] <apeoid> I just changed to Ubuntu for doing GIS learning about a week ago... and it's been tough, but I really appreciate this # and the people who are there to help me even when I should be asking google queries, sometimes, it has been so helpful to have someone who can just throw me a command or a url, live in chat.  thank you all for being here.
[14:22] <apeoid> linux is awesome and I want to never have to rely on windows because I can't operate a decent OS
[14:22] <e^0> Beldar: go to hell i am here due to i love ubuntu :)  and btw this is what official ubuntu documentation has to say https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/package-management.html
[14:22] <e^0> i can't find software center anywhere...!! :D :D
[14:23] <Beldar> e^0, you are on your way to a ban bro.
[14:23] <Pici> e^0: The *server* guide is not going to mention the software center since the software center is a gui application.
[14:23] <Pici> Beldar: no he isn;t.
[14:23] <e^0> Pici: is software center a package manager ?
[14:23] <Pici> e^0: please mind the attitde, here, we are all volunteers.
[14:23] <robairt> apeoid: just did a big project where I basically had to learn GIS as I went... not a fun time
[14:23] <Pici> e^0: yes.
[14:23] <e^0> Pici: sorry
[14:23] <Beldar> Pici, That sort of attitude and that wording generally leads to it.
[14:24] <apeoid> I've done the arcgis thing now I'm trying postgresql / postgis setup.  wow.  big shift.
[14:24] <robairt> Postgres is great
[14:24] <e^0> Beldar: i am telling after reading that wiki, and there nothing was mentioned about software center being a packge manager
[14:24] <Pici> e^0: Additionally, the 10.04 docs are 4 years old.
[14:24] <e^0> i though package manager is just a GUI a frontend to apt-get or aptitude
[14:24] <robairt> I was using mysql  before
[14:24] <Pici> e^0: again. Ubuntu Server does not have a GUI and will not mention GUI applications.
[14:25] <Roukh> hi
[14:25] <Rebaz> Hello
[14:25] <Pici> e^0: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, a package manager for dpkg.
[14:25] <e^0> Pici: ok :) btw what does ubuntu software center uses in the backend ? ( got curious now )
[14:25] <Pici> e^0: APT.
[14:25] <apeoid> robairt,  I'm doing the postgis install right now actually
[14:26] <mirela666> Hi can someone help me with OOM
[14:26] <Pici> e^0: apt-get, aptitude, synaptic and the software center are all frontends for APT.
[14:26] <mirela666> I have plenty of free ram on vhost running ubuntu server
[14:26] <e^0> Pici: that is what i mentioned above
[14:26] <e^0> 194236 e^0        │ software center is just a GUI to it, in the  back-end a package manager works i.e. apt
[14:26] <e^0> but anyways thanks for the additional info :)
[14:26] <robairt> apeoid, it's really nice and easy to use
[14:26] <Pici> e^0: np.
[14:26] <mirela666> and I see from time to time killed prpocesses by OOM in syslog
[14:26] <Beldar> mirela666, Just outline in detail to the channel what your need and your end goal.
[14:27] <mirela666> beldar, what do you mean?
[14:28] <Beldar> mirela666, I do not see OOM in my trusty repos for one, and details are the key here is all.
[14:28] <mirela666> /var/log/syslog.1:Jul  9 06:38:18 <server_name> kernel: [484566.860186] check_procs invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0, oom_adj=0, oom_score_adj=0
[14:29] <mirela666> check_proc is just one out of 3-4 proceses that invoke oom killer
[14:29] <mirela666> but there is plenty of free and buffered ram on server
[14:31] <robairt> so anyone checked out that new chrome remote desktop for linux?
[14:36] <Roukh> hi
[14:36] <Guest29381> i need some help getting wifi driver compiled exit error code 2 . ok, the wifi was auto picked up and active but wouldnt connect. search found this:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/852190Ubuntu bug 852190 in linux (Ubuntu) "7392:7811 Edimax EW-7811Un USB dongle won't connect to networks (rtl8192cu module)" [Medium,Incomplete] so i tried to modprobe,reboot, etc and now im trying to compile the linux driver on the disc that
[14:36] <Guest29381> came with it.  the pc is an rm all in one dual core with plenty of resources, running lubuntu 12.04. the wifi i try to connect to is open, i also set up my phone as an access point also open but wont conect. only get internet by usb tether to phone. my older laptop runs the latest xubuntu and works the wifi dongle fine. so can i copy files needed from my 32bit xubuntu laptop to the 12.04 64 tower? i downloaded the latest software from rtl, ca
[14:36] <Guest29381> n i compile on 32 for 64?
[14:38] <Apfelattack> Hi, my question is, how can i use WLAN in a VMWare Player with ubuntu (USB)?
[14:40] <Roukh> hi
[14:42] <Guest29381> quiet in here init?
[14:43] <robairt> almost too quiet
[14:43] <Guest29381> im scared
[14:43] <Guest29381> i need some help getting wifi driver compiled exit error code 2 . ok, the wifi was auto picked up and active but wouldnt connect. search found this:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/852190Ubuntu bug 852190 in linux (Ubuntu) "7392:7811 Edimax EW-7811Un USB dongle won't connect to networks (rtl8192cu module)" [Medium,Incomplete] so i tried to modprobe,reboot, etc and now im trying to compile the linux driver on the disc that
[14:43] <Guest29381> came with it.  the pc is an rm all in one dual core with plenty of resources, running lubuntu 12.04. the wifi i try to connect to is open, i also set up my phone as an access point also open but wont conect. only get internet by usb tether to phone. my older laptop runs the latest xubuntu and works the wifi dongle fine. so can i copy files needed from my 32bit xubuntu laptop to the 12.04 64 tower? i downloaded the latest software from rtl, ca
[14:43] <Guest29381> n i compile on 32 for 64?
[14:45] <robairt> does it work with an older kernal?
[14:48] <Roukh> hi
[14:49] <leotr> hello. I have one (only one) server with 6 HDDs and 64 Gb ram. I want to setup MAAS on it and then use juju for administering it. Is it possible?
[14:49] <Guest29381> roukh: hi wasup?
[14:49] <cfhowlett_> !server|leotr
[14:49] <leotr> thanks :)
[14:52] <quem> :'(
[14:54] <MAbeeTT> Hi! I am using precise in mydesktop computer. I have chomium browser from ubuntu repositories, and also google-talkpluging from google's ones. The gmail, and other google related pages freezes and the plugin crash. I read it seems being an API-plugin-related problem.
[14:54] <MAbeeTT> Is there some solution for this?
[14:54] <holstein> MAbeeTT: are you
[14:54] <holstein> MAbeeTT: are you up to date with upgrades?
[14:55] <lnxslck> MAbeeTT, try chrome instead
[14:55] <MAbeeTT> holstein: yes, of course.
[14:55] <schuranator> I have a question about an issue when trying to get the latest libevent package I get a 404 not found ip is there a way to update the references?
[14:55] <MAbeeTT> lnxslck: I could try Internet Explorer instead. ;).
[14:55] <holstein> MAbeeTT: i agree, chrome may be the easiest way to get newer code that may address your issue..
[14:55] <lnxslck> MAbeeTT, might as well move to windows
[14:57] <thefinn93> okay, i dont really know where to ask: I woke up this morning to find my VPS (running ubuntu server 13.10) down. When i hit the boot button it comes back, running apt-get upgrade says i need to let dpkg finish what it was doing, and running dpkg --configure -a says its starting updating libudev, then the thing shuts down again
[14:57] <thefinn93> suggestions? is this my shitty VPS provider?
[14:57] <holstein> thefinn93: please watch your langauge here.. is it a provider version of ubuntu?
[14:57] <Werel> I have an old 32bit laptop I'm using to install Linux on a flashdrive ( in my specific case, sdc ) because I don't want to install nix on my regular use laptop ( 64 bit ) in case I screw up and format the wrong drive.  Can I install 64bit nix on that flash drive with my old 32 bit system?
[14:58] <thefinn93> holstein: oh my bad! And yes
[14:58] <xeno_> So, how do I change this key password that comes up?  I now have an old one, and a new one, associated with two passwords in any of various apps on my Ubuntu desktop?  I don't even know what to call what I'm talking about, except that they are these wholesale passwords that allow avoidence of other passwords.
[14:58] <cfhowlett_> Werel nope
[14:58] <holstein> !install | Werel
[14:58] <Roukh> hi
[14:59] <MAbeeTT> isn't there some chromium-ubuntu related channel?
[14:59] <cfhowlett_> MAbeeTT don't know - definitely not supported here, though.
[15:00] <Beldar> MAbeeTT, I don't see anything on freenode ##linux might be the closest.
[15:00] <philinux> Is gksudo guifooapp still recommended even though it not installed by default
[15:01] <MAbeeTT> uh, I am seing, the package is at universe :(
[15:02] <Beldar> MAbeeTT, I believe it's lost it's general support, but if you can be concise here you may get help.
[15:04] <MAbeeTT> Beldar: thanks, I found there the problem is: plungins apis, but unfortunatly the solution requires, an older plugin o a newver browoser version. Thanks.
[15:07] <Chris__> Im a user of MINT and have screen lockups on MINT 17.  I don't know how to troubleshoot or who to go to for help.  Can somebody here help?
[15:07] <cfhowlett_> !mint|Chris__ no. sorry.  for mint support - ask mint.
[15:07] <DJones> !mint | Chris__ Mint's not supported here, but the bot's link will help you get to the network & channel for their own support,
[15:08] <Werel> ext2 or ext3, just general use nix installation :P
[15:09] <Chris__> the bot?  Im really new at this.   google chrome says it can't find irc.spotchat.org
[15:10] <Pici> Chris__: http://spotchat.org/connect/
[15:11] <TehRandom> so, just tried to install BitchX for old times sake... what's up with that?  no package?   can't run the precompiled?
[15:12] <Beldar> !info BitchX
[15:12] <Beldar> TehRandom, Support here is on what is in the repos.
[15:20] <philinux> Is gksudo guiapp still recommended even though it not installed by default
[15:22] <Beldar> philinux, Depends on who answers I suspect.
[15:24] <philinux> Beldar;~ well i'm interested in any view on this
[15:24] <llutz> philinux: wasn't polkit meant to do the job?
[15:25] <leeyaa> hello
[15:25] <Coar> Hello
[15:25] <leeyaa> which package should i install for apr-memcache ?
[15:25] <philinux> llutz;~ yes but pkexec not really meant for gui app. Although gparted is set up to use it
[15:26] <leeyaa> thats apache portable runtine memcache thing
[15:26] <leeyaa> runtime*
[15:26] <llutz> !info libapr-memcache0 | leeyaa
[15:26] <philinux> llutz;~ and convoluted for new users to set up for say nautilus
[15:27] <leeyaa> thanis llutz
[15:27] <leeyaa> thanks*
[15:27] <leeyaa> god my keyboard ;p
[15:28] <leeyaa> !info mod_perl
[15:28] <llutz> philinux: i just read somewhere about polkit etc but haven't really followed it. so i'd just install ggksu and ...
[15:28] <Beldar> philinux, last edited 6/10, but again opinions to some extent. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[15:29] <leeyaa> apis it libapache2-mod-perl2 for mod_perl thingy
[15:29] <leeyaa> ?
[15:30] <llutz> leeyaa: read package description and decide yourself
[15:31] <Beldar> philinux, link from page bottom of last one, a little more on where it might make a difference, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[15:32] <Beldar> seems most of the time not an issue
[15:32] <eye-gore> y
[15:35] <leeyaa> llutz: yeah good point
[15:36] <leeyaa> right another question
[15:36] <leeyaa> i have a few vms that sometimes crash for no apparent reason
[15:36] <leeyaa> where else except dmesg and kernel log i can have a look for hits
[15:44] <ewooy> Hi guys I just did a fresh install of Win 8 (Only reserved 70 out of 500GB for it), now I want to install Ubuntu aside, but partition manager doesn't detect windows partitions, it just shows whole disk as "free space". What to do?
[15:45] <Beldar> ewooy, Can you run sudo parted -l in ubuntu and pastebin it.
[15:45] <ewooy> sure
[15:47] <K4k> In an effort to re-use some puppet configurations between my Redhat and Ubuntu systems, if I switch the name of GID 27 from "sudo" to "wheel", will this break anything terribly?
[15:49] <ewooy> Beldar: http://pastebin.com/AR6q33UC (not: fdisk detects partitions)
[15:49] <LolliDot> Hello!
[15:51] <Beldar> ewooy, parted should show some info, is W8 set up as a efi install, and is there any gpt partitioning?
[15:52] <ewooy> Beldar: I have no idea how W8 is set up, I just deleted partitions in its partition manager and created one at the beginning of disk, then I installed it...
[15:52] <varunok> hello!
[15:53] <cfhowlett_> !uefi|ewooy probably a UEFI issue
[15:54] <Beldar> ewooy, My guess it's an msdos install but you have gpt remnants in the partition table this is treatable however no sign of partition info with parted makes me wonder what is really there.
[15:55] <ewooy> Beldar: as I said, fdisk detects it, this is what is there: pastebin.com/j6DXLe6k
[15:56] <Beldar> ewooy, Is there a sda, or has the HD flipped to show as sdb with a usb boot of ubuntu?
[15:57] <NewbyGuy001> wheres the channel topic
[15:57] <ewooy> Beldar: there is sda (its SSD), and I'm planning on installing / root of ubuntu there
[15:57] <cfhowlett_> !topic
[15:57] <k1l_> NewbyGuy001: /topic
[15:57] <NewbyGuy001> thanks
[15:58] <Beldar> ewooy, Have you set the bios to a legacy install?
[15:58] <phoenixbyrd> Hi, I made an .sh file, I'm trying to get it to run instead of opening in a text editor when I click on the file. It's set as executable.
[15:58] <ewooy> beldar: I think I did, but I'm not sure. Will check just a minute
[15:59] <genii> phoenixbyrd: Is the first line in the file something like:  #!/bin/bash
[15:59] <phoenixbyrd> no, I'll add that
[15:59] <ewooy> Beldar: UEFI boot is enabled, should I disable it?
[16:00] <Beldar> ewooy, I think you just need to get the gpt remnants out if the partition tables sdb shows as having this issue. http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/wipegpt.html
[16:00] <ewooy> Beldar: thanks, I'll check it out
[16:01] <Beldar> ewooy, You have a msdos install on sdb it looks like, I'm not really up on the bios settings.
[16:01] <phoenixbyrd> added #!/bin/bash, but still opens up as a text file rather than just running
[16:01] <phoenixbyrd> I can run it just fine in terminal
[16:02] <phoenixbyrd> trying to make it easy for my kid to run though
[16:14] <MotherMGA> 14.04 seems to have added a delay of about 4 seconds between pressing CTL-ALT-L and the screen locking.  Is that configurable?
[16:14] <MotherMGA> I'd prefer it be immediate, like it was in 13.10
[16:18] <apeoid> hi!
[16:18] <apeoid> I did an apt-get that had lots of results and at the end it said:  E: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/videolan/stable-daily/ubuntu/pool/main/v/vlc/libvlccore7_2.1.4+git20140707+r54549+19+11~ubuntu14.04.1_amd64.deb  Connection failed
[16:19] <apeoid> how do I finish
[16:19] <incognito> All my inodes are filled up. I did an update and now I have a broken package. it's the kernel, so I cannot do any kind of package management. Is there a way to remove the broken kernel. It is linux-image-generic-lts-quantal              3.5.0.49.55
[16:19] <Guest52216> If I were to run ubunto off a 64gb flash drive on my chromebook would it use the flash drive's storage or the internal storage when I download and store things?
[16:20] <llutz> incognito: sudo dpkg -P linux-image-generic-lts-quantal
[16:20] <incognito> Thanks I'll try that
[16:21] <Kurzweil> guest52216 that is configurable. Either or both I would say.
[16:21] <OerHeks> Guest52216, running from live-usb ? that would not touch your internal storage
[16:21] <apeoid> I think I did it right.  I did apt-cache search libvlccore7 and install same
[16:21] <Beldar> Guest52216, It will store it where you point it to. What type of install on the usb a full install or just loading the ISO?
[16:22] <Guest52216> a full install
[16:22] <Guest52216> so I could have both OS's at any time
[16:24] <Beldar> Guest52216, A full install would store on the drive it's on, however you can change this.
[16:25] <Beldar> Guest52216, You need to understand this though.
[16:26] <Guest52216> Sorry I'm a bit new
[16:29] <Beldar> Guest52216, Sure, any operating system will be self contained, and any disc or usb just uses the computers hardware.
[16:34] <wblankenship> When installing couchdb on Ubuntu 14.04 with apt-get, it doesn't create an init.d script. I've put together a minimal docker script that demonstrates this: https://gist.github.com/wblankenship/8683cdda6370e2a0c97e
[16:34] <cn28h_> wblankenship: maybe it used upstart?
[16:35] <cn28h_> i.e. /etc/init/
[16:35] <Neozonz> anyone know if there is a CLI alternative to SSHMenu?
[16:36] <kobbb> Hi there. Does anyone know how to only do security updates from apt-get ?
[16:36] <wblankenship> During `apt-get install` it tries to start by calling the init.d script and errors saying "invoke-rc.d: unknown init.d script, /etc/init.d/couchdb not found"
[16:37] <wblankenship> cn28h_, so it appears it expects it to have been created during install
[16:37] <cn28h_> oh I see, so *it* tried calling it ;p
[16:38] <wblankenship> Yes, and I verified the file is indeed missing, it isn't a permissions issue.
[16:38] <wblankenship> It looks like everything else is fine, but I'm not a sysadmin so there could be yaks hiding in the dark voids between log statements that I'm missing.
[16:39] <OerHeks> Neozonz, just use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"  not "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[16:40] <cn28h_> wblankenship: still might be worth checking if there is a conf file in /etc/init for it, if there is you can always create a link for it to /lib/init/upstart-job
[16:41] <cn28h_> you could create the link before installing the package .. which is kind of a hack of course
[16:42] <Neozonz> OerHeks, ha?
[16:44] <OerHeks> Neozonz, dist-upgrade gives newer versions of programms.
[16:45] <OerHeks> but might also include security updates, so it is up to you
[16:45] <epinky> !radius
[16:45] <epinky> has anyone got experience with freeradius?
[16:46] <wblankenship> cn28h_, you are right, there is indeed a _couchdb.conf_ file in _/etc/init_
[16:46] <cokegen> hey everyone, how one changes the hostname on a 14.04 machine without a restart ?
[16:46] <cokegen> before we had /etc/init.d/hostname.sh start to do the job ... now how are we supposed to do the same ?
[16:47] <wblankenship> borked package?
[16:47] <cn28h_> wblankenship: yeah, then try "ln -s /lib/init/upstart-job /etc/init.d/couchdb" before you install.. and yeah, sounds like a bug to me
[16:48] <Neozonz> OerHeks, my question was,
[16:48] <Neozonz> anyone know if there is a CLI alternative to SSHMenu?
[16:48] <rolli> есть русские то
[16:48] <cokegen> Neozonz, I was searching a ton on this ... found nothing usable
[16:48] <cn28h_> wblankenship: /lib/init/upstart-job is a generic init.d wrapper for upstart jobs so having that link *should* allow the existing scripts to work
[16:48] <studmuf> Hi all so i have just set up a LAMP server with Ubuntu 14.04 and I am trying to access a virtual host I set up (lets call it example.com) from my servers local ip (let call it 168.192.1.104) from a web browser on my laptop. The problem that I'm having is that it keeps resolving to the default folder set up by apache2 (ie. /var/www/html/index/html) instead of my folder
[16:48] <cokegen> seems the only way is to do something with expect and ncurses
[16:49] <bazhang> !ru | rolli
[16:49] <OerHeks> Neozonz, my bad, it was supposed to be for kobbb
[16:49] <Neozonz> OerHeks, np
[16:49] <Neozonz> cokegen, yeah im so suprised
[16:49] <Neozonz> I'll contribute once completed
[16:49] <epinky> cokegen: service hostname restart
[16:50] <studmuf> How would I make the example.com's index file be the one loaded instead of the default one.
[16:51] <cokegen> epinky, great it worked, forgot to su - again :/
[16:51] <cokegen> bash displayed the same old hostname ...
[16:51] <n0000b> on trusty x64: what is the official way to install ia32libs for i386 compatibility layer (multiarch)?
[16:52] <wblankenship> cn28h_, I'm confused as to how that works... So simply by linking it as the name of the service I want to start it magically works?
[16:58] <nerium> Does anyone know if 18:51:51 CEST and 18:51:51 +0200 are the same?
[16:58] <incognito> llutz: thanks so much, I was having a hard time fixing my broken package. I had a bodhi linux install with a broken package which I therefore was unable to install security updates (the install I'm working on is official Ubuntu) and I suspect that a virus destroyed my file system bodhi. I was a bit concerned because I have not been able to update my ubuntu install for about 3 or 4 months. Now I have updated my Ubuntu. Really
[16:58] <incognito> appreciate your help. I'll save that command.
[17:01] <wblankenship> It appears there is more wrong with the package than just the init.d script missing, `start couchdb` doesn't spin up a process...
[17:01] <pavlos> nerium, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_European_Summer_Time
[17:06] <heap> hey, any suggestion for recoll lens in ubuntu 14.04.?
[17:13] <solars> hi, I'm trying to usb mode switch my k5005 but always get  usb 2-2: usbfs: process 7261 (usb_modeswitch) did not claim interface 0 before use and the id doesn't change - what am I doing wrong?
[17:14] <cn28h_> wblankenship: magic might be a little bit of a stretch ;p but yes, taht's basically what it does.  It uses the name of the init.d script to decide which upstart conf to use and then issues t he appropriate upstart command that corresponds to the init.d command that was passed
[17:15] <cn28h_> wblankenship: if you ls -l /etc/init.d you will see there are already a number of examples as init.d
[17:15] <bodkin_> Hey, is this where I can get help with Ubuntu? Im new to it and i'm having a bit of trouble
[17:16] <cfhowlett_> bodkin_ yes.  ask your questions
[17:16] <bodkin_>  I tried Ubuntu on a USB boot and liked it enough to replace my orignal OS. Everything was going smoothly and I made it to the graphical login. It prompted me for a password but when I enter it, it goes black for a second and then goes right back to the login screen and asks for the password again.
[17:16] <cfhowlett_> bodkin_ what version number of ubuntu
[17:16] <bodkin_> 14.04\
[17:17] <cfhowlett_> bodkin_ try logging into the guest account
[17:17] <bodkin_> The guest account works, I can get into that no problem
[17:19] <cfhowlett_> bodkin_ I'm behind the great chinese firewall = damn slow internet.  do a search for ubuntu 14.04 login loop and you should find your solution
[17:19] <cfhowlett_> !loginloop
[17:20] <paca_paca|2> hi guys
[17:21] <cfhowlett_> paca_paca|2 ask your ubuntu question
[17:22] <sbujnak> Hi, I have both internal bluetooth and bluetooth usb dongle in my laptop and I would prefer to use the usb dongle one. Is there a way to tell the bluetooth manager that this one is preferred over internal?
[17:22] <apeoid> $USER means 'apeoid' not $USER, right?
[17:23] <cn28h_> apeoid: eh?
[17:24] <apeoid> cn28h_,  sudo chown $USER /usr/local/src means I replace $USER with my user name?
[17:24] <paca_paca|2> i have ssh access to my ubuntu server and dont have access to another server. i want to ssh from my working server to my blocked server. i have set up the key pair before the block happend and now i made it connect. the connection lasted too little time for me to use it. it only said the standard opening statement when opening ssh session and "Connection to MY_IP_ADDRESS closed"
[17:24] <apeoid> or is $USER the current user
[17:24] <paca_paca|2> how can i make the connection last?
[17:24] <cn28h_> apeoid: $USER will be substituted by your shell before the command is executed -- USER is the currently logged in user
[17:24] <cn28h_> so you can execute it as-is
[17:25] <apeoid> I see, thank you
[17:29] <bforrisi> ...
[17:29] <paca_paca|2> this is the command i used ssh username_on_remote@remote_ip -p custom_port
[17:30] <paca_paca|2> should i also include a flag to make the connection last?
[17:32] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys upgraded kernel i notice now i do not have sound, would a kernel do such a thing? obviously i would resort to using the older kernel correct?
[17:32] <Psil0Cybin> i unmuted, and remuted, and still nothing from youtube videos
[17:34] <Psil0Cybin> nvm got it
[17:34] <Psil0Cybin> had to set off settings, for sound and back on....odd
[17:36] <AlexPortable> i'm using ubuntu with fallback mode to make it look like gnome interface
[17:36] <AlexPortable> is 14.04 with this more resource heavy than 10.04 ?
[17:37] <AlexPortable> also is there any way to align icons on desktop to a grid?
[17:38] <MotherMGA> right click > Keep aligned.
[17:38] <MotherMGA> its kinda like a grid
[17:38] <Psil0Cybin> actually i fixed the issue but now the hotkeys actually display, that the music is off but it is still playing from youtube
[17:38] <Psil0Cybin> i am assuming that is because i changed the sound input / output settings
[17:39] <AlexPortable> you can still put them on top of each other :\
[17:39] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, why would you do that?>
[17:40] <AlexPortable> well that happens
[17:40] <AlexPortable> when i want to move something to another folder
[17:40] <AlexPortable> on windows it's impossible to put them on top of each other
[17:40] <AlexPortable> and you have a normal grid
[17:43] <paca_paca|2> does anyone know why the connection between my two servers does not last?
[17:43] <Capprentice> What is the most secure and trustworthy GUI download manager available for linux ? Yesterday I tried to download "Jdeveloper Studio (1.8 GB)" width Xtreme Download Manager and it corrupted the file! Now all 1.8 GB data is lost!!!! There is no torrent available for Jdeveloper Studio from Oracle.com, therefore I have to download using the HTTP Direct Download Method. What downloader should I use for downloading huge files like these?
[17:44] <Capprentice> Any suggestions? Anyone??
[17:44] <apeoid> Capprentice, filezilla?
[17:45] <paca_paca|2> i have a tunnel setup between the two for mysql and it is stable. how do i make the new ssh connectioin last too?
[17:45] <Capprentice> apeoid, Thats a FTP Client ! Im not sure whether its capable of accelerated http downloading!!
[17:46] <Jeffrey_f> Capprentice: What do you want to do?
[17:46] <Capprentice> Download a 1.8 GB file over a slow connection (only 74 KB/s speed!)
[17:47] <Capprentice> Jeffrey_f,
[17:47] <Capprentice> Therefore need a good download Manager.
[17:47] <apeoid> could try a torrent
[17:48] <xjkx> 14.04 gave me screen tearing, I did the -bs in a file that google search suggested but it still happens
[17:48] <xjkx> I use nvidia
[17:48] <Capprentice> apeoid, As I have already said, there is no torrent available for that file from official sources :(
[17:48] <apeoid> you already said that?
[17:49] <apeoid> I guess you did
[17:49] <apeoid> what file do you want
[17:49] <apeoid> I'll make a .torrent
[17:49] <Pici> Capprentice: I've used aria2 in the past. It looks like 'uget' has a  gui front end for it.
[17:50] <daftykins> Capprentice: what's wrong with wget?
[17:50] <Capprentice> Yep, apeoid ! Well here is the download link: www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/jdev/downloads/
[17:51] <Capprentice> daftykins, Complicated! GWGET crashed often on Ubuntu 14 !
[17:51] <Pici> Capprentice: did you look at uget?
[17:52] <apeoid> Capprentice what version
[17:52] <daftykins> Capprentice: "gwget" ?
[17:52] <Capprentice> Pici, Erm.,..Yes...that has no acceleration power like Axel or Prozilla. Sadly Axel has no GUI and prozilla corrupts bigger downloads where the server does not supports it!
[17:52] <gener1c> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN i am reading this manual and step 2 is missing some vars....
[17:53] <apeoid> Capprentice, I'm trying to do something difficult so send a pm if you can't download it through *get
[17:53] <Pici> Capprentice: there is a plugin for aria2, which does multi-connection downloads.
[17:53] <Capprentice> daftykins, Yes. Tried GWGET, gives Glib error and crashes too Often, too old to use.
[17:54] <Sunstream> Okay people it is past half way in 2014 and by now we should of have had hoverboards and flying cars. :D
[17:54] <Sunstream> (Geek reference)
[17:54] <daftykins> Capprentice: i said wget, not gwget
[17:54] <daftykins> Sunstream: this is not a channel for general chat, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:55] <Capprentice> daftykins, How to pause and resume downloads with Wget? Is it even possible? I have tried to start the download with wget -c url , then when I tried to resume the download, it said cant continue, 503 error !
[17:57] <Shallweplayagame> What does this mean? http://imgur.com/RJMgQBk What error is this?
[17:58] <Capprentice> Shallweplayagame, You need to install ia32libs !!
[17:58] <daftykins> Capprentice: host probably denies it then. be aware that even if you download this file, something installed via manual download will not be supported in here. check there aren't packages available for this instead
[17:59] <Shallweplayagame> Capprentice: sudo apt-get install ia32libs ?
[17:59] <Capprentice> Nope! None ! there is no DEB for Jdeveloper, only Jar and bin insller both are of 1.8 and 1.7 GB respectively.
[17:59] <daftykins> ah, enjoy your proprietary Oracle software then ;)
[18:00] <Capprentice> Shallweplayagame, Nope, that wont work... If ia32-libs was available then you would not had seen that error !
[18:00] <t_dot_zilla> hello, i did an apt-get upgrade and php5-fpm was installed, now when i restart php5-fpm, the .sock are not readable by nginx, so i have to do chmod 777 -R /tmp
[18:00] <t_dot_zilla> anybody else notice this on ubuntu 12.04 server?
[18:01] <Shallweplayagame> Capprentice: how do i install ia32libs
[18:01] <Capprentice> Shallweplayagame, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23182765/how-to-install-ia32-libs-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[18:02] <t_dot_zilla> wonder if this is the problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2231143
[18:10] <t_dot_zilla> that was it :)
[18:10] <t_dot_zilla> answered my own question, thanks
[18:11] <inerkick> Kindly help to install virtualenv properly i get an error when installed it in my ubuntu machine   i have these installs https://dpaste.de/2Hdr and when i run virtualenv i get this https://dpaste.de/Kgj2  the version states this https://dpaste.de/b86m
[18:13] <Metroidn1f> Hey guys, I am trying to install the minimal 14.04 x64 version of ubuntu which I I do succeed on, but I can't get Chromium-Browser to open up the display.  I want to run ubuntu through the command line with no GUI, but it always says failed to open display.  I have set the display variable to :0.0 but nothing will open.  I don't want to run a server, I just want ubuntu without the GUI.  Maybe I am missing a package of something for
[18:13] <Metroidn1f>  it to work?  Maybe I used the wrong settings while installing?  I also noticed that when I try to update the packages I get an error saying that there is  no public key.  I have also configured the network Manual to use IPv4 instead of IPv6.  Can anyone help out please?
[18:14] <rap424> Metroidn1f: You won't be able to run Chromium-Browser without a window manager
[18:14] <Pici> inerkick: you may want to ask in #python, they might have seen this issue before.
[18:14] <daftykins> Metroidn1f: so are you trying to do this via SSH -X from another ubuntu host?
[18:14] <Metroidn1f> SO I need compiz?
[18:14] <Metroidn1f> No, all local, nothing is going to be networked.  I don't want to run a server.  I basically want Ubuntu Desktop without the GUI.
[18:14] <rap424> Metroidn1f: Compiz might be overkill, you will need Xserver, and a window manager like icebox, there are a lot of window managers out there. You cangoogle for Ubuntu window managers
[18:15] <rap424> Metroidn1f: If you want a command line browser I would suggest trying out Lynx or Links, either works great
[18:15] <jack-> w3m :P
[18:15] <daftykins> Metroidn1f: right so you want to run a graphical program without a GUI... can you see my trouble in understanding here?
[18:15] <Metroidn1f> ^
[18:16] <rap424> jack: I haven't tried w3m yet =)
[18:16] <jack-> it's cli too, like lynx
[18:16] <Metroidn1f> That is worded perfectly.  I do not want to have a GUI to run Ubuntu, but I want to be able to use GUI Programs.
[18:16] <jack-> pretty slim
[18:16] <daftykins> Metroidn1f: i'm afraid that's ridiculous.
[18:16] <daftykins> not gonna happen.
[18:16] <Metroidn1f> I'm weird, I know.
[18:16] <Metroidn1f> It wont?
[18:17] <daftykins> no, you may as well add gaming on your one-line calculator to the list
[18:17] <Metroidn1f> Interpreter LOL!
[18:17] <acovrig> how can I create a xorg.conf file for nvidia (googling shows nvidia-xconfig, but that isn’t a package)?
[18:18] <Metroidn1f> So what if I install a WM like someone had said before?
[18:18] <acovrig> 14.04 64-bit BTW
[18:18] <rap424> Metroidn1f: You will need Xserver and a window manager
[18:18] <daftykins> Metroidn1f: then you're defeating the conditions of your query
[18:18] <Metroidn1f> XServer comes with Chromium.
[18:18] <Metroidn1f> I mean other way a round.
[18:19] <rap424> Metroidn1f: daftykins is right, installing a window manager is basically installing a GUI
[18:20] <Metroidn1f> Is it possible to have one screen just as a CLI and the other GUI via Dual Screens?
[18:20] <rap424> Metroidn1f: A little less than a full-blown GUI but still
[18:20] <acovrig> because my system works just fine with onboard, but when I put my nvidia card in, I get dumped into low graphics mode (I do have the nvidia drivers installed and have nvidia-settings)
[18:20] <daftykins> Metroidn1f: X runs on one TTY, you can switch to console-only TTY's on Ctrl+alt+F1 through F6
[18:21] <Metroidn1f> That confuses me a bit.  What does TTY mean?
[18:21] <daftykins> acovrig: sounds like it's treating it as a secondary, you may need to look in your BIOS/EFI with a way to change the priority to PCI-Express graphics
[18:22] <daftykins> Metroidn1f: that doesn't matter, it's a legacy term... ultimately there is a console only command line login on each of ctrl+alt+F1 through F6, then X would run on the 7th
[18:22] <daftykins> Metroidn1f: perhaps if you could explain why you're trying to do things this way we could offer a more appropriate solution
[18:22] <acovrig> daftykins: it worked just fine for 1 run, but when I rebooted it dropepd to low-graphics mode
[18:22] <daftykins> acovrig: it would be helpful to supply your Xorg log file to find out why
[18:23] <acovrig> daftykins: fbioputcmap invalid argument
[18:23] <daftykins> a full log would be useful.
[18:23] <daftykins> what did google say about that one?
[18:23] <acovrig> O.o apt-get purge nvidia-* got me a display…
[18:24] <Metroidn1f> I'm not really trying to do anything in particular except have an Command Line OS that is able to display GUI's for some software.
[18:25] <daftykins> Metroidn1f: when i read that sentence i see a contradiction
[18:25] <acovrig> there is a list of nvidia drivers, which should I pick (nvidia 331.38 proprietary, tested is the top of the list)
[18:25] <Metroidn1f> acovrig:  Are you dual booting?
[18:25] <daftykins> acovrig: depends on the age of the card.
[18:25] <daftykins> acovrig: yes, it likely reverted to the nouveau open source driver
[18:25] <flax> lol acovrig i just installed drivers for my geforce8600
[18:25] <Metroidn1f> Basically, if I want to run Chromium, I would just type Chromium-Browser and it would open.
[18:25] <acovrig> Metroidn1f, yes but the card doesn’t work in windows (has in a previous install of win8, but for some reason not this one)
[18:26] <acovrig> daftykins: gtx280
[18:26] <acovrig> daftykins: and yes, it’s using xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[18:26] <daftykins> acovrig: do you intend to play games?
[18:26] <acovrig> dolphin on rare occations
[18:26] <acovrig> wii/gc emu BTW
[18:26] <daftykins> Metroidn1f: sorry but you're intentionally making things harder for no apparent gain.
[18:27] <Metroidn1f> If you are able to get into the Advanced boot settings for Win8, have you clicked low graphics?  I don't know what exactly it is called.
[18:27] <flax> acrocity, u could go to additional drivers and pick the NVIDIA proprietary driver, worked for me
[18:27] <daftykins> Metroidn1f: we do not assist with Windows in here. see the topic.
[18:27] <daftykins> flax: highlight fail.
[18:27] <acovrig> yup
[18:27] <Metroidn1f> I know, but maybe that is why aconvrig is getting low graphics.
[18:28] <Metroidn1f> Maybe it has carried on to linux for him.
[18:28] <daftykins> Metroidn1f: then take it to another channel or a PM thanks
[18:28] <Metroidn1f> Sorry, I do appologise.
[18:28] <Ca11um> I've installed the Ubuntu desktop onto an installation of Ubuntu Server. Is it possible to install VNC without having to manually edit loads of files and eventually find out all of the editing yielded no results?
[18:28] <acovrig> daftykins: ironically the only/main reason I instealled win8 as a dualboot (I have it as a vm as well) is for steam, but if it doesn’t work with my card at the moment, then what’s the point lol
[18:29] <Metroidn1f> What card is it if I may ask?
[18:29] <acovrig> I’m thinking of imaging this drive and re-installing win8, ubuntu14 sometime if I want to play games bad enough, but I tend to spend more time in gnome-terminal anywho
[18:29] <compdoc> Ca11um, vnc server?
[18:29] <acovrig> Metroidn1f: gtx280
[18:29] <Ca11um> Yes, compdoc
[18:29] <compdoc> its all about the xstartup file
[18:30] <Metroidn1f> PCI-E?  not 2.0?
[18:30] <Ca11um> Using a VNC client I just get a 'connection was actively refused!' message
[18:31] <compdoc> Ca11um, unfortunately, unity is no longer 2d, and i can no longer make it work with vnc since 12.04
[18:31] <compdoc> i had to do it differently
[18:31]  * acovrig crosses fingers and reboots
[18:31] <Ca11um> I also tried xrdp, but after logging in I just had a grey pattern filling the screen and a cursor
[18:31] <tapamo> Hi to all
[18:32] <Metroidn1f> What board do you have acovrig?
[18:32] <acovrig> I didn’t know you could mix onboard and pci card, when I booted after putting the card in I left a VGA display on onbard for sanity’s sake and got unity on both displays...
[18:32] <compdoc> Ca11um, I install ubuntu server, and then the Mate desktop, and then xrdp
[18:32] <tapamo> I'm having a problem to upgrade my ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04. It saying no new version available
[18:32] <Ca11um> Okay so now I can connect, but I just get a terminal
[18:32] <tapamo> help !!!!!
[18:32] <Ca11um> Is there a command to start the ubuntu-desktop ?
[18:32] <compdoc> its all about the xstartup file
[18:33] <daftykins> tapamo: the upgrade path between LTSs is only officially available at the end of the month
[18:33] <daftykins> tapamo: once 14.04.1 is released then you'll be offered the upgrade
[18:34] <tapamo> thx a lot for thr information
[18:34] <acovrig> Metroidn1f: Asrock Z77 Pro4
[18:35] <daftykins> acovrig + Metroidn1f - guys if you're going to talk hardware please take it to appropriate channels - it is *OFF* topic here.
[18:36] <Metroidn1f> If I install Ubuntu Desktop, how do I make the default login screen the CLI one?
[18:37] <kb3ien>  iptables -v  -t nat -A PREROUTING -d 72.80.X.Y/32 -i eth1 -s 199.255.X.Y  -p gre -j DNAT --to-destination  10.248.25.2   -- doesnt forward anything,  iptables -t nat -nvL doesn't see the packets that tcpdump can...
[18:37] <acovrig> Metroidn1f: as-in make it a non-graphical system?
[18:37] <kb3ien> any suggested modules that i should or should not have
[18:37] <DJones> !text | Metroidn1f
[18:37] <Metroidn1f> No, have the option to go do alt f7
[18:38] <Ca11um> Is it possible to dedicate Ubuntu 14.04 to powering a Windows VM?
[18:38] <Ca11um> Which VM software is best for such use?
[18:38] <compdoc> to do what?
[18:38] <compdoc> windows server runs pretty well in kvm
[18:38] <Ca11um> My host provider doesn't offer any form of Windows operating systems, so I'll need to run Windows on Ubuntu
[18:39] <inerkick> hi i'm not able to get help from python channel and they guide me to get to ubuntu channel to sort the error. i get this error which check version of virtualenv. kindly help   virtualenv --version
[18:39] <inerkick> Traceback (most recent call last):
[18:39] <inerkick>   File "/home/rohit/bin/virtualenv", line 5, in <module>
[18:39] <inerkick>     from pkg_resources import load_entry_point
[18:39] <inerkick>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources.py", line 2880, in <module>
[18:39] <inerkick>     parse_requirements(__requires__), Environment()
[18:39] <unopaste> inerkick you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:39] <compdoc> but I wouldnt use it for graphics
[18:39] <daftykins> Ca11um: is this a VPS?
[18:40] <inerkick> i'm getting this error while trying to install virtualenv. kindly help, since python channel without much solution directed me here. https://dpaste.de/uYGq
[18:40] <EmsY> Hello, guys. I need a fast help here. I have this error " Could not apply the stored configuration for monitors"
[18:41] <daftykins> EmsY: when doing what
[18:41] <EmsY> When rr my pc
[18:41] <daftykins> 'rr' ?
[18:41] <EmsY> And now I have some shitty resolution, I can' t see anything. rr = restart
[18:41] <acovrig> how do I select proprietary drivers from the command line (Google says jockey-text, but apt-get says unable to locate package)?
[18:41] <daftykins> EmsY: right, don't use daft short hand from now on. also, keep the language family friendly.
[18:42] <EmsY> I found some topic in the internet, there they say " remove monitors.xml " but I haven' t got this file
[18:42] <daftykins> acovrig: you don't need to do that, just install nvidia-current
[18:42] <Metroidn1f> Let me reword my question.  Once I install Ubuntu Desktop with GUI as the System, how do I make the default login be the command line one instead of the gui one?  I don't want a cli system, I still want the option to do ALT F7 to go to the GUI Mode.
[18:42] <EmsY> daftykins: sorry
[18:42] <daftykins> EmsY: did they refer to a path in ~/.config/... ?
[18:43] <EmsY> daftykins, yes
[18:43] <daftykins> EmsY: what version are you running?
[18:43] <EmsY> daftykins: 14.04
[18:43] <daftykins> and ubuntu with unity?
[18:43] <EmsY> what do you mean?
[18:43] <daftykins> Metroidn1f: use the previously mentioned 'text' boot advice then make yourself a script that runs X when you want it. simple.
[18:44] <acovrig> Metroidn1f: you can have the graphical system installed, and have it boot into a lower runlevel, thus defaulting to command line, but they you can always run startx to get to graphical side of things
[18:44] <daftykins> EmsY: there are many versions, xubuntu, lubuntu, kubuntu... ubuntu...
[18:44] <EmsY> oh, ubuntu
[18:44] <daftykins> acovrig: ubuntu does not use runlevels.
[18:45] <EmsY> this resolution is so annoying, I can only see like half of my desktop
[18:45] <javarisk> Hi all. How do I make sure if my home directory is encrypted?
[18:47] <userf> mount|grep home and u should see ecryptfs
[18:47] <userf> javarisk: you should have encrypted swap too
[18:47] <Metroidn1f> How would I change one screen back and forth to GUI mode and CLI?
[18:47] <daftykins> Metroidn1f: what do you mean one?
[18:48] <Metroidn1f> Have GUI on one, and CLI on the other.
[18:48] <Metroidn1f> I have two screens.
[18:48] <daftykins> not gonna happen without much much much fiddling
[18:48] <Pici> Metroidn1f: I'm not sure the *right* way of doing it, but you could do something like using chvt to set a particular tty on boot.
[18:48] <javarisk> userf: oh I see, how do I do that now after I am done installing Ubuntu already?
[18:48] <bennypr0fane> Hello, I have a KDE question - no on is responding at the kubuntu channel: Hello, I can't find desktop-settings for changing my wallpaper. when I right-click on the desktop, "desktop-settings" is not in hte menu. I have a special desktop style (but I don't know its name and don't remmeber where I set it), with favorite launcher in a the top row, a search panel in the middle, and the Kickoff menu app categories  in the bottom. the
[18:48] <bennypr0fane> bottom row shows matching app names as you type in the search panel
[18:48] <userf> javarisk: what do?
[18:49] <javarisk> userf: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1416829.html
[18:49] <javarisk> This is same case as mine. Hopefully it has solution
[18:50] <acovrig> daftykins: I did apt-get purge nvidia-* then apt-get install nvidia-current and my gfx card displays are blank, but my onboard display isn’t, I can’t access the Ctrl+Alt+F* terminals, but can get gnome-terminal
[18:50] <EmsY> Guys, please help!
[18:50] <EmsY> http://www.codesend.com/view/d74cceb54d280042cc9e37b5891ea14c/
[18:50] <daftykins> acovrig: you've got to pick which device you want and stick with it, disconnect onboard outputs and check BIOS/EFI for an option as i said hours ago
[18:51] <userf> javarisk: if you have not encrypt during install you can simply create encrypted partition and move user folder there, after that symlink to /home
[18:51] <EmsY> Anyone?
[18:51] <javarisk> userf: I did clicked "encrypt the home folder and it also asked me for the passphrase I remember"
[18:52] <Metroidn1f> One more question, when installing Ubuntu, I have the option to use 4 different kinds of package things, one is the main, then non-free from universe then another from multiverse, then the last one being backsomething, should I select all of them?
[18:52] <userf> javarisk: its ok
[18:52] <daftykins> EmsY: so what's the story, is this a desktop? have you changed monitor?
[18:53] <javarisk> userf: if I mount this drive from my other windows which is alongside ubuntu. I don't see any home directory though
[18:53] <javarisk> userf: I dont' need to run this ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase
[18:53] <javarisk> do I?
[18:53] <acovrig> daftykins: I now have nothing plugged into my onboard, the bios is set correctly (it displays, and so does grub), but both displays are blank; it plays the login-ready sound so it has booted, but both displays are blank
[18:53] <EmsY> daftykins, I had an update. After update ubuntu asked me to restart now or restart later. When I restarted my resolution was so big, I saw only a half of a screen. Still seeing...
[18:54] <EmsY> The error when I logged in my user looks like this. http://www.codesend.com/view/d74cceb54d280042cc9e37b5891ea14c/
[18:54] <userf> javarisk: i dont know it's specyfic to ubuntu
[18:54] <javarisk> I see
[18:54] <Ca11um> daftykins: Yes
[18:54] <daftykins> EmsY: drop to a TTY and run a full update and dist-upgrade
[18:54] <eogra7> Forgive my stupidness, but when I log on via ssh echo $0 always returns -sh, how can I make the shell bash?
[18:54] <daftykins> Ca11um: then your query is a very bad idea
[18:54] <userf> javarisk: in debian you just use cryptsetup for that job
[18:55] <raspberrypifan> i got the tail from that modem
[18:55] <acovrig> eogra7: for just that once or from now-on?
[18:55] <daftykins> eogra7: set it in /etc/passwd
[18:55] <ragdol1> I am unable to find 'cal' (part of util-linux or bsdmainutils, I suppose). Has it been removed? Is there a way for me to install it
[18:55] <ragdol1> ?
[18:56] <EmsY> daftykins, already did a dist upgrade
[18:56] <eogra7> acovrig: I always want to use bash
[18:56] <javarisk> userf: it's protected I checked with this one http://askubuntu.com/questions/53242/check-if-partition-is-encrypted
[18:56] <javarisk> userf: right, that's LUKS kinda?
[18:56] <daftykins> EmsY: do you have a xorg.conf ? can you pastebin your Xorg log file? (/var/log/Xorg.0.log )
[18:56] <acovrig> ok, like daftykins said, edit /etc/passwd or run sudo usermod -s <path to bash (usually /bin/bash)> <username>
[18:57] <userf> javarisk: sure LUKS
[18:57] <EmsY> dafykins, give me a 1 min
[18:57] <eogra7> acovrig: thanks!, that usermod command worked
[18:58] <daftykins> and with that he was off
[18:58] <acovrig> lol, yup
[18:58] <EmsY> daftykins: here you go. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7771582/
[19:00] <blizzow1> Intel Centrino 7260 wireless + ubuntu 14.04 ... gah, it's killing my productivity.    I keep getting disconnected.  In 13.10, I was doing great.  In mint 16, things are awesome.  I keep getting disconnected from my wireless network.  Works fine in Windows.  I've tried to upgrade to a newer kernel and /lib/firmware/iwlwifi*  and that hasn't helped.  There are a bunch of posts in the forums but none of the "solutions" mentioned have worked for me.  Anyone he
[19:01] <daftykins> blizzow1: you got cut off at "Anyone he..." but if Mint works, why not use that?
[19:01] <blizzow1> Because I don't want to reinstall over my old OS?
[19:01] <blizzow1> daftykins: "Anyone here experienced this and/or fixed it?
[19:02] <daftykins> blizzow1: seen talk of it but no solutions
[19:03] <martin1969> good afternoon. i need some help configuring a kensington trackball. i'm hoping someone here can help.
[19:03] <martin1969> so far, i've downloaded an app called imwheel.
[19:03] <martin1969> but i don't know how to assign key sequences to the buttons.
[19:06] <raspberrypifan> whats the latest version of ubuntu and when is the next one coming out
[19:06] <ragdol1> it is always xx.04 and xx.10
[19:06] <acovrig> 14?
[19:07] <ragdol1> Current version: trusty (14.04) and next one utopic (14.10?)
[19:07] <lordbachus> Fun fact about that
[19:07] <Pici> raspberrypifan: Ubuntu versions releases are always named for the YEAR.MONTH that they come out, and they are typically released in April and October.
[19:07] <lordbachus> Exactly
[19:07] <Pici> where typically means always unless something goes really wrong.
[19:07] <martin1969> so any trackball user here?
[19:08] <raspberrypifan> ah ok
[19:08] <raspberrypifan> so i can use the current 14
[19:08] <acovrig> ooh, that makes perfect sense, like it-logical
[19:08] <acovrig> yes, 14.04
[19:09] <Pici> raspberrypifan: 14.04 yes.
[19:09] <acovrig> daftykins: I installed nvidia-current, set my BIOS for PCI and I just have blank displays
[19:10] <ragdol1> Found the solution for missing cal - Ubuntu doesn't ship with the 'cal' that is shipped with util-linux's upstream (kernel.org), but with 'ncal' from bsdmainutils which is slightly different from aforementioned 'cal'
[19:10] <daftykins> acovrig: yeah you said... is the mouse there fine?
[19:10] <mickutz> hi guys, I wonder if anyone can help me. I have apt-mirror downloading files on a fairly slow connection and I need to stop it. does anyone know how I can do that?
[19:11] <acovrig> nope, 1 display is even alseep; nothing, not even Ctrl+Alt+F* (is that called virtual consoles?)
[19:11] <Beldar> mickutz, stop downloads in general, can you be more specific?
[19:12] <braindrop> can anyone help with enabling the 'write-intent-bitmap' for an md device?
[19:12] <yoLo_> Guys, is there anyway i can reduce my screen size while keeping my screen resolution the same ?
[19:12] <Beldar> mickutz, Do you not want your mirror up to date?
[19:13] <acovrig> daftykins: luckily I have SSH though
[19:13] <mickutz> Beldar, yes, but I have to stop it for some time so I can download something else
[19:14] <mickutz> at the moment it's taking all of my bandwidth and it's not going to finish in the next 24 hours by the looks of it
[19:16] <Beldar> mickutz, Others will be better on this. ;)
[19:16] <daftykins> acovrig: is your user set to auto login?
[19:16] <har> yo
[19:16] <acovrig> no
[19:16] <acovrig> lightdm
[19:16] <daftykins> acovrig: so you see a login screen first before this?
[19:16] <acovrig> nope
[19:17] <daftykins> wat
[19:17] <daftykins> it's either one or the other
[19:17] <Beldar> acovrig, Try to be used to using nicks when addressing others.
[19:17] <acovrig> no, as-in not this boot, but normally yes
[19:17] <daftykins> acovrig: create another user and test
[19:17] <acovrig> Beldar: yea, I usually do, but sometimes forget
[19:17] <daftykins> acovrig: i am multi tasking a lot so i may miss responses otherwise
[19:19] <mickutz> :) cheers Beldar
[19:19] <acovrig> daftykins: booting verbose splash, I see the verbose part, but don’t get to the splash part, I get a verbsoe boot too fast to read, then the displays go blank and I hear the login sound
[19:20] <LucidGuy> Anyone perform Ubuntu Server 10.04 to 12.04 upgrade lately?  Should I avoid an upgrade "do-release-upgrade"
[19:20] <daftykins> acovrig: are they in power save or pure blank black image?
[19:21] <daftykins> LucidGuy: i don't personally believe in upgrades but you can try one sure, just make sure you have backups
[19:21] <acovrig> one is in power save, the other is black image
[19:21] <acovrig> both plugged into the gfx card, the bios,grub,verbsoe boot shows on the one that isn’t in power save
[19:21] <LucidGuy> daftykins, a full re-install and setup of all software/hardware is also a pain in the ass.
[19:21] <daftykins> acovrig: the fact you can't get your card going in Windows concerns me.
[19:21] <daftykins> LucidGuy: welcome to computing!
[19:22] <acovrig> yea, given it was installed with the card (I installed ubuntu w/out the card)
[19:22] <acovrig> daftykins: It makes me wonder if the card is bad
[19:25] <daftykins> acovrig: the OS install, is it one you have much important on or a clean install? i really can't think what to suggest beyond confirming the card is good first
[19:25] <yoLo_> daftykins, is there anyway i can reduce my screen size while keeping my screen resolution the same ?
[19:27] <acovrig> daftykins: I wouldn’t want to format the drive, but could dd it first; I just find it odd that it worked when I first put it in, then after I reboot it doesn’t
[19:27] <daftykins> yoLo_: define 'screen size'
[19:27] <heth> hi. I'm having problems with GRUB and 14.04 server x64. althou I install grub, when I reboot there is no bootable device. MB is Atom if that matters; Any troubleshooting ideas?
[19:30] <yoLo_> daftykins, the actually full size of my screen, instead of full i would like it to become smaller like a window
[19:31] <davitnt> #juizdefora
[19:32] <daftykins> yoLo_: what possible purpose could that have?
[19:32] <yoLo_> that would make the screen look more sharper, daftykins
[19:33] <yoLo_> because full size makes it looksa very pixelated
[19:33] <ObrienDave> yoLo_, you might want to look at your resolution settings
[19:33] <daftykins> yoLo_: an LCD screen has a resolution, you must output to that exact resolution to see a proper image. you can play with DPI after that, if the size of text is too large for you, but there is nothing else.
[19:34] <yoLo_>  ok wait
[19:34] <yoLo_> for example, you know when your running linux through a virtual box ?
[19:35] <daftykins> ...
[19:35] <Cheekio^> Is there a good option for VNC clients with Ubuntu?
[19:35] <Cheekio^> I can't seem to connect with a custom username using Vinagre, which is what AskUbuntu recommends
[19:36] <ObrienDave> Cheekio^, try VPNbook
[19:37] <yoLo_> daftykins, in mu bios settings, the screen default is full screen, but i can change that into making it smaller so the images looks smaller and vivid while retaining the same resolution settings
[19:37] <daftykins> yoLo_: i don't understand what you're saying at all, that doesn't sound like anything any BIOS i have ever seen provides
[19:37] <yoLo_> but in full screen although the resolution is the same things looks pixelated
[19:37] <ObrienDave> yoLo_, you're in scaling mode
[19:38] <ObrienDave> daftykins, mine will do that as well
[19:38] <Cheekio^> ObrienDave: does VPNBook do VNC?
[19:38] <ObrienDave> yes
[19:38] <daftykins> ObrienDave: oh 0o some kind of intel on-die graphics options?
[19:38] <Cheekio^> Does it have a ubuntu repo package?
[19:38] <daftykins> yoLo_: sounds like you're running the wrong resolution for your display then
[19:38] <yoLo_> ObrienDave, yes is there a way i can run this mode with ubuntu ?
[19:38] <daftykins> !info vpnbook
[19:39] <ObrienDave> Cheekio^, sorry, i don't know about VNC
[19:39] <Cheekio^> Does anyone use VNC here? Vinagre is like kid gloves
[19:39] <ObrienDave> VPNbook is a free service
[19:40] <ObrienDave> yoLo_, what is your native screen resolution?
[19:41] <ObrienDave> let me reboot and check the BIOS setting
[19:41] <yoLo_> 1024x768
[19:41] <daftykins> 1024? are you sure? that'd have to be some tiny LCD
[19:42] <ObrienDave> yoLo_, then you need to make sure your desktop is displaying to that exact resolution
[19:42] <yoLo_> ObrienDave,  it is
[19:43] <yoLo_> it's pretty much my graphics that's shitty i guess
[19:43] <daftykins> keep the language family friendly please
[19:43] <ObrienDave> yoLo_, brand and model of your computer please
[19:44] <torjv> hi everybody, can anyone help me with a kernel panic?
[19:44] <yoLo_> Thinkpad R31 celeron CPU
[19:44] <daftykins> torjv: just ask the channel.
[19:44] <torjv> daftykins, how do you mean? been a long time ago i used irc. :)
[19:45] <ObrienDave> !ask | torjv
[19:45] <daftykins> torjv: as in instead of waiting if someone can help, just ask the question
[19:45] <ObrienDave> yoLo_, IBM or Lenovo?
[19:45] <yoLo_> IBM
[19:46] <ObrienDave> k, sec
[19:46] <daftykins> yoLo_: the Pentium III ?
[19:46] <yoLo_> celeron 1.3 Ghz
[19:47] <yoLo_> i have worked hard to get it working this far...
[19:47] <daftykins> bit of a museum piece then
[19:47] <ObrienDave> yoLo_, it will do 1600 x 1200 according to http://www.cnet.com/products/ibm-thinkpad-r31-pentium-iii-1-ghz-128-mb-windows-xp/specs/
[19:47] <yoLo_> yea.. i also have a brand new still sealed IBM thinkpad pentium 4
[19:48] <torjv> got it. i use ubuntu 14.04 through vmware 10.0, after i upgraded to kernel 3.13.0-30, i got a kernel panic, can not find boot partition. if i use the 3.13.0-24 everything is okay, why does it panic, and what can i do to fix it?
[19:49] <ObrienDave> yoLo_, so the issue is you're not running the resolution high enough
[19:50] <yoLo_> ObrienDave, that is the only resolution ubuntu can detect 1024x768
[19:50] <torjv_> sorry, had a little drop out there..
[19:51] <ObrienDave> yoLo_, then you probably need the correct drivers
[19:51] <daftykins> torjv: just skip that kernel and wait for the next.
[19:51] <ObrienDave> torjv, i just got 3.13.0-32 a few minutes ago
[19:51] <torjv_> oki no problem, is there a way to revert to 0-14 so i don't have to reboot into it everytime?
[19:51] <gumby_> hello.  I have a 3lcd setup using two nvidia cards.  I have two of the LCDs setup as screen0 and the second as screen1.  When maximizing an application on screen0 it spans across both LCDs, is there a way to make the application maximize only on a single LCD.  Specifically, the LCD it is app is already running on
[19:52] <ObrienDave> torjv, check out grub-customizer
[19:52] <torjv_> ObrienDave thanks, will do!
[19:52] <ObrienDave> torjv, be careful with it though
[19:54] <torjv_> ObrienDave thanks for the warning ;)
[19:54] <heth> hi. I'm having problems with GRUB and 14.04 server x64. althou I install grub, when I reboot there is no bootable device. MB is Atom if that matters; Any troubleshooting ideas?
[19:55] <raspberrypifan> does most debian packages work on ubunut
[19:56] <ObrienDave> yoLo_, check out https://01.org/linuxgraphics/
[19:57] <theperfectpunk> why is executable code not common in linux?
[19:57] <ObrienDave> raspberrypifan, yes and no. ymmv
[19:57] <raspberrypifan> hm
[19:57] <torjv_> another question i only have found wage answers on google. I have issues with the mouse capture/lock, like look around in games like rust, or grab and move in openttd. I understand this is a common issue in linux, but do anyone of you guys know a fix for it?
[19:57] <raspberrypifan> whats it depend on
[19:57] <yoLo_> thanks, ObrienDave
[19:57] <theperfectpunk> like eclipse in adt
[19:58] <theperfectpunk> can't they just provide executable code3
[19:58] <theperfectpunk> instead of having us compile it everytime
[19:58] <theperfectpunk> ?
[19:59] <ibm> juice
[19:59] <brontosaurusrex> theperfectpunk, most distros do provide exe code
[19:59] <torjv_> ObrienDave, The way i understand grub.customizer you just pull the boot option you want to the top?
[20:01] <theperfectpunk> brontosaurusrex: you mean in their respective repo?
[20:01] <ObrienDave> yes but that is more like menu order. it defaults to #1 entry. BTW, being a PPA, it's really not supported in this channel
[20:01] <torjv_> ObrienDave okay, thanks!
[20:01] <Alone_n_Poor> I like compiz but the project is dead so I'm searching for my perfect de or wm, so Openbox looks nice alternative but the project appear as semi deprecated too!
[20:02] <Alone_n_Poor> Someone helps me?
[20:02] <supergauntlet> i'm pretty sure openbox isn't deprecated
[20:02] <supergauntlet> if you like compiz's effects take a look at kwin
[20:02] <PaolaGirl> hello
[20:02] <Alone_n_Poor> Openbox have an ugly webstie and packages are one year old
[20:03] <brontosaurusrex> theperfectpunk, yes
[20:03] <Alone_n_Poor> Kwin is nice but... I think KDE is too big and low optimized
[20:05] <Alone_n_Poor> supergauntlet: which do you use?
[20:05] <supergauntlet> Alone_n_Poor: i personally use i3 but that's a tiling wm
[20:06] <heth> hi. I'm having problems with GRUB and 14.04 server x64. althou I install grub, when I reboot there is no bootable device. MB is Atom if that matters; Any troubleshooting ideas?
[20:06] <Alone_n_Poor> I'm using i3 actually from six months but... it is very limited to customize
[20:08] <yoLo_> ObrienDave,  it has been installed i'll restart my PC
[20:09] <ObrienDave> ok, let us know how it goes :)
[20:09] <yoLo_> ok
[20:12] <heth> hi. I'm having problems with GRUB and 14.04 server x64. althou I install Ubuntu and GRUB, when I reboot there is no bootable device. MB is Atom if that matters; Any troubleshooting ideas?
[20:12] <PaolaGirl> can I install kde just with apt-get install kde?
[20:12] <compdoc> what sort of drive?
[20:13] <backbox> Anyone here using BackBox?
[20:13] <Alone_n_Poor> *blackbox
[20:14] <backbox> *BackBox
[20:15] <Alone_n_Poor> :P
[20:16] <backbox> Just wanted to know where I could find some tutorials
[20:18] <apeoid> I have a hdd that is a second disk in a windows installation.  I want to mount it read-only and copy data.  how do?
[20:19] <heth> apeoid, good with live cd
[20:19] <heth> apeoid, boot* with live cd
[20:19] <apeoid> it's showing in the launcher but I can't mount or anything... I didn't turn off windows 8 fast start
[20:19] <apeoid> so basically it's hibernated or whatever
[20:20] <apeoid> I've mounted this drive before exactly the same way with a read only option
[20:20] <apeoid> I can't find it in google search though
[20:22] <apeoid> ugh I'll just go shut down the windows 8
[20:22] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i have this problem with awm when i try and display my computer screen to my tv though vga i get an error "Failed to apply configuration: %s" and "GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SettingsDaemon was not provided by any .service files"
[20:23] <skfax> I'm trying to run "sudo apt-get install perl=5.14.2-21", and the output states "The following extra packages will be installed: perl ...", however it doesn't install any packages?
[20:23] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> but when i use unity and get it working then go back to awm it works i just cant change the resolution settings
[20:32] <AlexPortable> how can i disable graphical things on ubuntu 14.04?
[20:32] <AlexPortable> previously it was at the right mouse button menu near change background
[20:33] <AlexPortable> also whats the command for run?
[20:36] <AlexPortable> run as in; open terminal
[20:36] <AlexPortable> type firefox
[20:36] <AlexPortable> but then without terminal
[20:38] <yoLo_> ObrienDave, unfortunately my resolution goes up to 1204x748
[20:38] <yoLo_> 768*
[20:39] <ObrienDave> 1024x76?
[20:39] <ObrienDave> *1024x768?
[20:39] <yoLo_> yes
[20:40] <yoLo_> after installing the intel drivers
[20:42] <ObrienDave> hmm, maybe the monitor port goes to 1600x1200
[20:43] <mjuszczak> What's the best way to build a custom package so that I can distribute it to multiple servers with apt-get?  Is it making a PPA?  And if so, is that best hosted on launchpad?
[20:43] <mjuszczak> FYI this is just for organization specific builds of normal software, like ffmpeg.  Not software I'm trying to release or anything.
[20:44] <ObrienDave> mjuszczak, you can create your own PPA
[20:45] <AlexPortable> hi?
[20:45] <AlexPortable> anyone here?
[20:46] <maxh76> I am
[20:46] <maxh76> Hello
[20:46] <zartoosh> HI how could I have /var/log/boot.log timestamped?
[20:46] <maxh76> I'm not sure about that.
[20:47] <maxh76> I would recommend searching google.
[20:47] <AlexPortable> how can i disable graphical things on ubuntu 14.04?
[20:47] <maxh76> Do you mean, the entire GUI?
[20:47] <kostkon> AlexPortable, what graphical things exactly
[20:48] <daftykins> AlexPortable: if it's running slowly, consider using something lighter weight than unity
[20:48] <AlexPortable> kostkon: if you move a window
[20:48] <AlexPortable> what would you recommend?
[20:48] <maxh76> I'm confused on what you're asking, are you asking for windows to not be moveable?
[20:48] <daftykins> Xubuntu
[20:48] <mjuszczak> ObrienDave: Would I host that at launchpad or is that something I can host anywhere, like S3?
[20:48] <daftykins> maxh76: don't be daft
[20:49] <AlexPortable> no
[20:49] <maxh76> Sorry, I'm just not sure on what he's asking.
[20:49] <AlexPortable> in ubuntu 10.04 you could disable graphical effects
[20:50] <AlexPortable> also xubuntu uses xfce
[20:50] <AlexPortable> which is too limited
[20:50] <heth> hi. I'm having problems with GRUB and 14.04 server x64. althou I install Ubuntu and GRUB, when I reboot there is no bootable device. MB is Atom if that matters; Any troubleshooting ideas?
[20:51] <maxh76> heth: Is there another operating system on the disk you installed it on?
[20:51] <heth> maxh76, nope. fresh install on empty disk.
[20:52] <acovrig> daftykins: I find it interesting that it works with nouveau just fine, but if I pick any nvidia-* driver it fails, if I have a display on onboard it shows low graphics mode, otherwise blank displays
[20:52] <acovrig> daftykins, I wonder if the card feeling hotter than the bottom of my 210F macbook has anything to do with it...
[20:52] <maxh76> heth: Are you able to get into the system at all? Or does it just sit at the GRUB screen saying it isn't bootable.
[20:53] <heth> maxh76, it isn't going to the GRUB screen at all. I think that message is from the BIOS
[20:53] <torjv_> Is the 32 kernel available in the main distro?
[20:53] <[0xAF]> Hi all, I have a problem with ubiquity. I'm installing mint-kde-i386 from usb drive, from hybrid image (dd if=iso of=usb). It seems something is broken on the usb, since Ubiquity says  Input/Output error on 46% if the file copying and it stops. The MD5 is ok and I doubt the USB drive is broken, but anyway, is there a way to force the install to finish ? I have big problem with rebooting this old laptop, since the BIOS do not want to boot from the USB, so
[20:53] <maxh76> heth: Are you sure the CPU architecture is 64-bit?
[20:54] <heth> maxh76, why would ubuntu install on 32bit?
[20:54] <maxh76> heth: Good point..
[20:54] <heth> maxh76, also I can boot it with 12.04 boot cd when I do boot from first HDD
[20:54] <heth> it works fine
[20:54] <heth> just can't make GRUB boot it
[20:55] <maxh76> heth: Try reinstalling Ubuntu 14.04 Server on the disk.
[20:55] <maxh76> heth: Especially if it's a fresh install and you have nothing on it yet.
[20:55] <heth> maxh76, I reinstalled GRUB, no results
[20:55] <maxh76> heth: Do you have another machine you are able to try and boot with?
[20:56] <heth> it's not ubuntu after all that isn't booting, I just don't know much about GRUB not getting anything up
[20:56] <heth> maxh76, boot what with?
[20:56] <maxh76> heth: Boot the hard disk.
[20:56] <heth> maxh76, I can boot that hdd on the same maching with live CD
[20:56] <ObrienDave> any ideas on why someone cant get the latest kernel? still on 3.13.0-24
[20:57] <hieronemus> hello,  I need help regarding ssh-ing to a host behind steping server, i followed this guide in the old days http://sshmenu.sourceforge.net/articles/transparent-mulithop.html
[20:57] <heth> ObrienDave, reboot?
[20:57] <Pici> ObrienDave: What kernel do you expect to have?
[20:57] <ObrienDave> he can't d/l it. reboot won't help
[20:57] <maxh76> heth: Interesting.. I'm not sure what you could try, I'm going to search something quick.
[20:57] <ObrienDave> 3.13.0-32
[20:57] <f0x90> If I have a laptop running a persisten livecd of ubuntu could i leave the bay open and make it hot swappable?
[20:57] <hieronemus> it was working, but right now i'm on trusty and cannot make it work
[20:57] <heth> maxh76, ok. thanks
[20:58] <Pici> ObrienDave: -32 is only in proposed right now.  if they want -30, they should make sure that the updates and/or security repositories are enabled.
[20:58] <ObrienDave> i just got -32 a few minutes ago
[21:00] <ObrienDave> this is my uname -a, Linux david-vaio 3.13.0-32-generic #56-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jul 7 11:32:12 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:00] <Pici> ObrienDave: -32 is only in trusy-proposed.
[21:00] <Pici> ObrienDave: linux | 3.13.0-32.56  | trusty-proposed
[21:00] <hieronemus> khkh
[21:01] <Pici> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux
[21:01] <kostkon> ObrienDave, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhasedUpdates
[21:01] <ObrienDave> not arguing with you Pici, i have it installed and running
[21:01] <Pici> ObrienDave: okay :)
[21:01] <kostkon> ObrienDave, that could be the reason
[21:01] <Glorfindel> loosing power will not usually make ubuntu/grub stop working will it?
[21:02] <Chesticleez> #mudlet
[21:02] <ObrienDave> he cant even d/l -30
[21:02] <Glorfindel> #mudlet
[21:02] <Glorfindel> oos
[21:02] <Glorfindel> *oops
[21:03] <Pici> ObrienDave: do they have the security or updates repositories  enabled?
[21:03] <maxh76> I couldn't find anything heth, sorry..
[21:03] <maxh76> I have to go as well.
[21:04] <priuon> can applications affect the session manager?
[21:05] <heth> maxh76, thanks anyway
[21:05] <ObrienDave> Pici, checking, thanks :))
[21:06] <heth> hi. I'm having problems with GRUB and 14.04 server x64. althou I install Ubuntu and GRUB, when I reboot there is no bootable device. MB is Atom if that matters; UEFI is disabled; Boots perfect with live CD when I pick Boot from first hdd. Any troubleshooting ideas?
[21:06] <zmbmartin> I am using ghostscript to compress pdfs. On my OSX machine the compressed pdf looks identical to the full pdf. In ubuntu the compressed pdf is missing some patterns and fills from the full pdf.
[21:06] <zmbmartin> Anyone have some ideas why?
[21:07] <heth> zmbmartin, are you sure the ghostscript version is supported by your PDF viewer?
[21:07] <jack-> zmbmartin, use a better pdf writer?
[21:08] <zmbmartin> heth: Not sure what you mean. This is a ubuntu server.
[21:08] <torjv_> Pici added to my source.list deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-proposed restricted main multiverse universe but nothing new,
[21:08] <zmbmartin> jack-: Such as?
[21:09] <jack-> dunno, didn't need one yet
[21:09] <adamcunnington> One thing that really confuses me... once you've added a PPA, how do you know what the name of the thing you are installing is? I can't check through apt-cache search as i don't know if this is showing me the older version repo one or the ppa
[21:10] <ObrienDave> Pici, torjv_ is the one with the kernel issue. i'm thinking he does not have any trusty repos enabled
[21:10] <adamcunnington> i.e. what am i installing from https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/ubuntu/handbrake-releases
[21:11] <hieronemus> hello there, I'm trying to configure ssh access to a remote host who is accessible only from public host...basically I'm using socks proxy on local and trying to use ProxyCommand...found lots of articles regarding this issue and almost all of them are using nc, but cannot make it working. Any clue?
[21:11] <ObrienDave> adamcunnington, look in the PPA itself. they have a list of packages there
[21:12] <adamcunnington> ObrienDave: but what happens when the name of the package is the same as the one in the repo? which one will ubuntu install?
[21:12] <heth> hi. I'm having problems with GRUB and 14.04 server x64. althou I install Ubuntu and GRUB, when I reboot there is no bootable device. MB is Atom if that matters; UEFI is disabled; Boots perfect with live CD when I pick Boot from first hdd. Any troubleshooting ideas?
[21:12] <Ben64> adamcunnington: the one from ppa
[21:12] <ObrienDave> ^^
[21:12] <adamcunnington> Ben64: ObrienDave ok great thanks
[21:13] <adamcunnington> Second thing... that ppa has no version for ubuntu 14.04 but i have on good word that it will work - is my only option to build from source?
[21:13] <torjv_> pici ObrienDave's advice worked, I'll try to reboot
[21:13] <adamcunnington> or can i deliberately add a software source that is for 13.04?
[21:13] <jack-> adamcunnington, i bet you can
[21:13] <adamcunnington> I had it working before but can't remember what i did - think i was using the old version
[21:13] <adamcunnington> jack-: great so i would just add precise main ?
[21:14] <jack-> yup
[21:14] <adamcunnington> jack-: or raring etc. ok great thanks
[21:14] <Ben64> adamcunnington: i wouldn't mix versions like that
[21:14] <jack-> don't shoot me if some dep fucks it up
[21:14] <kostkon> adamcunnington, use this for now https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/ubuntu/handbrake-snapshots  that's what the dev recommends for 14.04 afaik
[21:15] <adamcunnington> kostkon: oh you genuis, good find thanks
[21:15] <kostkon> adamcunnington, np
[21:15] <adamcunnington> kostkon: it's annoying, version 0.9.9 is in the repo but they've patched the mp4 container out, leaving just mkv... sucks
[21:16] <kostkon> adamcunnington, yeah, i know, i've seen some posts on the forums
[21:17] <adamcunnington> kostkon: i just did sudo apt-get install handbrake after adding the repo and it's installed the one from the ubuntu repo... why?
[21:18] <kostkon> adamcunnington, did you apt-get update first
[21:18] <ObrienDave> adamcunnington, always apt-get update before upgrade
[21:18] <adamcunnington> ObrienDave: i did
[21:19] <Bashing-om> heth: Dual booting, or stand alone 14.04 ? ... Do you boot to the grub boot menu when booting the hard drive ?
[21:19] <ObrienDave> k
[21:19] <jack-> yeah, never forget apt-get update after modifying your sources
[21:19] <kostkon> adamcunnington, output of  apt-cache policy handbrake-gtk  ?
[21:19] <adamcunnington> kostkon: ObrienDave see this is what confuses me, having jumped into synaptics, it looks like i probably should have installed handbrake-gtk but where an earth does it say that on https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/ubuntu/handbrake-snapshots
[21:19] <adamcunnington> kostkon: i just installed handbrake because the packages on that launchpad page at the bottom are just called handbrake
[21:19] <adamcunnington> it's so unclear.
[21:19] <heth> Bashing-om, fresh install fresh disk. I don't think I get to GRUB at all
[21:20] <kostkon> adamcunnington, yeah you usually need to know the pacakge name beforehand or just use the software centre :P
[21:20] <adamcunnington> kostkon: but how can you know it?
[21:20] <adamcunnington> kostkon: where would it say? if you're using a ppa, you're presumably not using the software centre for a good reason - in this case, missing functionality in the version supported in the software centre that i require
[21:21] <adamcunnington> brb need to reboot...
[21:21] <Bashing-om> heth: Fresh install, maybe grub did not install where ya expected it to .. did you do the install from a USB drive ? Maybe all we have to do is install grub to the hard drive ?
[21:22] <heth> Bashing-om, I booted in recovery with the CD and did grub-install /dev/sda; that didn't do the thing
[21:22] <ObrienDave> heth, dual boot? if only one OS you might not see GRUB menu
[21:23] <heth> ObrienDave, but I expect it to BOOT, right?
[21:24] <ObrienDave> yes it should, re-reading your notes
[21:24] <Bashing-om> heth: Show us what we are working with, pastebinit -> sudo fdisk -lu , sudo parted -l <-// IF we are working MBR booting, I suggest (RE-)insalling grub from the liveUSB --// let's see ! .
[21:27] <heth> Bashing-om, I don't have remote access to the box :( I did reinstall grub with grub-install /dev/sda and it installed successfully. but didn't boot afterwards. can it be something with UEFI?
[21:27] <adamcunnington> Thanks for your help before guys.
[21:27] <adamcunnington> I'm now getting "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable." I think i need to install libdvdread4 and then run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[21:28] <adamcunnington> I just wanted to check that there was no package later than libdvdread4?
[21:28] <Bashing-om> heth: If that Motherboard is UEFI capable, sure ! -> GPT partitioning, and MBR is out the window .
[21:29] <heth> Bashing-om, it's GPT yes, it asked me when I installed
[21:29] <heth> Bashing-om, but when I enable UEFI the live CD doesn't boot at all; it stays on black screen
[21:29] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, no, as it is up2date, blue ray is a different story
[21:30] <skfax> Is it possible to use apt-get or aptitude to intentionally downgrade a package X, and downgrading all other packages which depended on the newest version of package X - to an older version which works with the older version of package X?
[21:30] <jack-> skfax, not automatically
[21:30] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: ah, i need to be able to read bluray too, what do i need for that?
[21:31] <jack-> you have to apt-get install each package separately
[21:31] <skfax> jack-: I was able to manually downgrade by using apt-get download + forcing dpkg
[21:31] <jack-> sure :)
[21:31] <skfax> But it sort of messes with the packaging database, since there's tons of dependencies
[21:32] <jack-> i just mean: you can't have one package dragging in all the rest
[21:32] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD or recent post http://www.libregeek.org/2014/01/05/a-guide-to-playing-blu-rays-on-ubuntu-linux/
[21:32] <Bashing-om> heth: Then MBR - installing to the root of the hard drive, no workie. The boot code then must be installed to a EFI partition. That is all I know of that situation. If others can not advise better, well, we can struggle through getting grub installed properly, but I do not have UEFI, and to thus time I have not encountered it directly - so will be a struggle on my part too.
[21:32] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: cheers
[21:32] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, but not all blue ray discs will play, same as some dcd's do not play too
[21:33] <OerHeks> *dvd
[21:33] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: why is that? due to propietary formats?
[21:34] <OerHeks> i am not sure about todays limits, but there were changes in coding, yes
[21:34] <heth> Bashing-om, I did make a BIOS partition for EFI it said that it must be 1MB; I made it automatically. so if it's GPT, GRUB cannot be installed to the /dev/sda ?
[21:36] <Bashing-om> heth: Correct, in that with GPT partitioning, grub is to be installed onto the EFI partition. Not sure at all how the server install works, desk top install, installing in UEFI mode the installer does pick up and install correctly to the EFI partition.
[21:37] <maxxd_> hi, after new drivers in my ubuntu 12.04.4 the laptop's touchpad doesn't work. please help me
[21:37] <rsw> hey, is there a guide/walkthrough/tutorial/etc for connecting to the internet using the ip command line tool?
[21:39] <heth> Bashing-om, maybe I should make a separate /boot partition for grub then..
[21:41] <Bashing-om> heth: Don't think that will help in this instance. We are looking at getting the correct boot code installed correctly on the correct partition. Legacy booting ? -> (parted -l)->1 2048s 4095s 2048s bios_grub <- .. is your output similar to this ?
[21:44] <heth> Bashing-om, I have no idea sadly. the machine is in the office and it can't boot as I said heh. I can check tomorrow
[21:44] <heth> Bashing-om, what should it say?
[21:44] <heth> parted -l?
[21:46] <Bashing-om> heth: Background info: There now are two versions of grub, grub-pc (BIOS boot) and grub-efi (UEFI boot). So grub is still used with both BIOS and UEFI boot but it installs differently as the two ways to boot are different. To comolicate matters more, there are 2 ways to install for GPT partitioning.
[21:47] <heth> Bashing-om, ah, good, what are they?
[21:48] <Bashing-om> heth: Run -> sudo parted -l <- depending on "  bios_grub  " flag as to what the booting is to be.
[21:50] <heth> Bashing-om, I see. I'll do that tomorrow.  what are the options? and how can I install efi or pc grub to try which will work ?
[21:53] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: thanks - got it all working following that great guide, good resource cheers
[21:53] <OerHeks> have fun
[21:57] <rustyraptor> hello
[21:58] <specsmu> I have a question:  Is there any way to get ubuntu to install on a whole disk WITHOUT trying to add a partition table?
[21:58] <specsmu> I'm trying to install on a guest VM.  the volumes are LVM, I don't need nor want partitions on them.
[21:58] <specsmu> But I can't figure out how to get Ubuntu to stop insisting.  It's annoying.
[21:59] <torjv> what wm are you using?
[21:59] <specsmu> it blocks the install, too.  the OS doesn't recognize the added partitions.
[21:59] <rustyraptor> I am having a problem logging in with the display manager
[22:00] <torjv> specsmu what wm are you using?
[22:01] <specsmu> wm?  I don't understand.  I'm using the server CD, Xen host.
[22:01] <Bashing-om> heth: Maybe; in a Full Change Root environment -> apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64 <- If you WERE running AMD-64, as it is ATOM, not at all sure !
[22:01] <torjv> sorry, vm, virtual machine ;)
[22:01] <rustyraptor> I recently installed the nvidia non-free drivers. That leads me to think it's xorg
[22:01] <specsmu> ahh.  xen 4.3, opensuse 13.1.
[22:02] <heth> Bashing-om, it is AMD64
[22:02] <specsmu> I create an LVM volume for root, and one for swap.  but when I try to install, it insists on partitioning xvda1 and xvda2.
[22:02] <heth> Bashing-om, okay and how to do grub pc?
[22:02] <torjv> specsmu sorry then I'm no help, I only know Windows VM's..
[22:03] <Bashing-om> heth: Worth a shot, will do nothing that can not be undone. Let's say you are booting legacy, so make sure "secure boot" is disabled.
[22:03] <specsmu> np...  but surely there must be a way of telling Ubuntu "use the whole disk, I don't care about partitioning"
[22:03] <Bashing-om> heth: Are you comfortable doing a Change Root ?
[22:03] <heth> Bashing-om, there is no such thing as secure boot.. only UEFI option is on or off
[22:03] <heth> Bashing-om, what is that?
[22:04] <torjv> specsmu, just to be a fool for asking, "the whole disk", is it the virtual disk or your real HD?
[22:04] <specsmu> the virtual disk.
[22:05] <Bashing-om> heth: OK, that is where you boot up from a diffent OS ( say a liveDVD ) and change into the actual install. No big deal, workie great last long time, but there are LOTs of mounting to be done.
[22:05] <specsmu> I already have everything configured exactly how I want, and it's exposed to the VM.
[22:05] <specsmu> but the VM won't cooperate and allow me to write directly to the disk without trying to partition it.
[22:05] <specsmu> er, the installer
[22:05] <heth> Bashing-om, yes I've done that. /proc /sys /dev bind mount; I also think the rescue boot option does it by default tho
[22:05] <torjv> specsmu is the virtual disk "virgin"? then you have to partition it.
[22:06] <Bashing-om> heth: There is such a utility as "boot-repair" that stands a good chance of fixing your issue.
[22:06] <specsmu> it's virgin, by design.  I don't want to partition it - I want to just write directly to it and let xen take care of the booting, etc.
[22:06] <specsmu> but I would settle for it letting me boot instead of just saying "I can't notify the OS, you're on your own".
[22:07] <apeoid> I've installed nautilus-open-terminal package to right-click open a terminal inside any file browser window... but it opens the wrong terminal emulator.  how can I see/edit the nautilus-open-terminal configuration?
[22:07] <heth> Bashing-om, yes. I tried to install it bit it's not in the ppa;
[22:07] <Bashing-om> heth: lemme hunt it up ( boot-repair) .. brb.
[22:08] <torjv> well i would believe that a virtual disk is like a real disk, it needs to know what to do, so partition it and everything is okay, it will not mess up your mbr
[22:10] <specsmu> I've been a sysadmin for nearly 20 years, and sometimes I just hate computers.  hah.
[22:10] <torjv> :P
[22:11] <torjv> specsmu all computers are made to fuck you up :P
[22:11] <IdleOne> torjv: please no swearing in here
[22:13] <specsmu> guess it didn't like swap.  :P  fun fun
[22:13] <Glycan> How may I verify that I have "usbnet (CONFIG_USB_USBNET) & cdc_ether (CONFIG_USB_NET_CDCETHER)" drivers?
[22:14] <Bashing-om> heth: Boot-repair: -> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair , sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair // command -> boot-repair <- to run .
[22:14] <heth> Bashing-om, yea, but it said there is no package
[22:14] <Bashing-om> !boot-repair | heth
[22:15] <heth> Bashing-om, yes, there were some people on the forums saying that it's not updated for 14.04 yet but i don't know
[22:16] <Bashing-om> heth: Do not know what I can advise, as I just installed it ( 12.04 !!!) maybe not able form 14.04 ??
[22:16] <heth> Bashing-om, yes there is no package for 14.04 i think
[22:16] <Bashing-om> form/from*
[22:16] <heth> but I don't know
[22:16] <JordanJ2> Hi, Does Ubuntu 14.04 support a install with Secure Boot and UEFI both on?
[22:18] <adamcunnington> Hi, i'm trying to merge 2 audio files using mencoder but when doing -oac faac, I get an error message that mencoder wasn't compiled with faac. I think it was removed for licensing reasons so I just need to remove mencoder, install faac and then reinstall mencoder?
[22:19] <adamcunnington> apparently, the "install faac" could have been done with medibuntu but it's no longer maintained and the ubuntu page mentions libdvdcss instead. Can anyone advise?
[22:20] <Bashing-om> heth: Well, Like I say, I have no direct experience with UEFI, but we can try a CHange Root into the install and do ->apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64 <-. Asumming that the EFI partition exist. ( parted -l to see )
[22:20] <Ben64> adamcunnington: you can probably use lavc's faac
[22:21] <heth> Bashing-om, I will try to make it bigger, because the install said it can be 1MB but that is too small i think
[22:21] <heth> Bashing-om, thanks for the help! I will try all that tomorrow :)
[22:22] <adamcunnington> Ben64: what does that mean?
[22:22] <adamcunnington> Ben64: install lavc in between removing and reinstalling mencoder?
[22:22] <Ben64> adamcunnington: removing and reinstalling will accomplish nothing
[22:23] <adamcunnington> Ben64: it compiles installed codecs when you install it i think
[22:23] <Ben64> adamcunnington: nope. they are binary packages
[22:23] <Bashing-om> heth: From my notes: "The bios_grub only needs to be 1 or 2MB but must be unformatted." And I have seen recommendations of 250 MB.
[22:23] <adamcunnington> Ben64: so you need to install faac separately, then re-compile (through reinstallation)
[22:23] <adamcunnington> Ben64: well, 20 forum posts say this is the solution
[22:23] <adamcunnington> Ben64: but i'm just interested in fixing my problem. What do I need to do?
[22:23] <Ben64> adamcunnington: well they're wrong, because installing is not compiling
[22:23] <Glycan> Sorry, my connection died. How would I go about installing usbnet and cdc_ether?
[22:24] <Ben64> adamcunnington: you could compile it yourself
[22:24] <heth> Bashing-om, hm. maybe it tries to install efi and it only has bios_grub partition
[22:24] <adamcunnington> Ben64: no idea how, sounds hard
[22:24] <heth> Bashing-om, what should be the bios_grub setting? in parted -l
[22:25] <adamcunnington> Ben64: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1560660
[22:25] <Ben64> adamcunnington: you can ask in #mplayer or #mplayer2 for help compiling
[22:26] <Bashing-om> heth: Yep, 2 manners of install for EFI, and we have to match the method to how grub expects to boot.
[22:26] <adamcunnington> I don't even know what i need to do though, compile what? what does that mean in this context
[22:26] <adamcunnington> surely i just need to get mencoder to recognise an installed libfaac
[22:26] <heth> Bashing-om, you said 2048s 4096s, which is what?
[22:27] <Ben64> adamcunnington: if the binary package in the repositories doesn't have it, then it doesn't have it. it will never recognize something it is not compiled with
[22:27] <adamcunnington> Ben64: what binary package? libfaac?
[22:27] <Ben64> adamcunnington: mplayer
[22:28] <adamcunnington> Ben64: so in theory i just need to compile mencoder with libfaac?
[22:28] <adamcunnington> Ben64: which entails what? downloading libfaac from somewhere and compiling it with mencoder?
[22:28] <JordanJ2> Hi, Does Ubuntu 14.04 support a install with Secure Boot and UEFI both on?
[22:28] <Ben64> thats a better question for #mplayer or #mplayer2 but why not just use a better codec or use the faac command line?
[22:29] <Bashing-om> heth: The boot flag is "bios_grub" // 2
[22:30] <Bashing-om> heth: '2048' is the start of the blocks for the sector, and 4096 is the size of those sectorrs ( efi must be size 4096 ).
[22:31] <heth> Bashing-om, aha I see.
[22:33] <adamcunnington> is avconv better than mencoder? sick of all it's bullshit problems like not including aac codecs :|
[22:33] <Bashing-om> heth: As this is GPT partitioning, ya might want to install 'gdisk' to look at the partitioning in detail. -> apt-gt install gdisk , sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda <-.
[22:34] <heth> adamcunnington, aac is proptietary closed protocol
[22:34] <adamcunnington> heth: what should i use instead? mp3lame?
[22:35] <daftykins> adamcunnington: keep the talk family friendly please
[22:35] <jack-> aac is apple
[22:35] <jack-> good quality though...
[22:36] <jack-> your choice
[22:36] <adamcunnington> daftykins: my bad
[22:37] <Ben64> you can use "faac" on the command line to make aac files, or you can use a better codec
[22:37] <heth> Bashing-om, ah! I managed to route myself and login to the box :)
[22:38] <Bashing-om> heth: Well ! Where there is a will, and a bit if time, there is a way.
[22:39] <jack-> s/if/of/
[22:40] <dfrey> How do I configure which monitor is my "primary" one?  I can re-orient my two displays using the display section of the system settings, but it doesn't persist after I logout
[22:40] <heth> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=17zh7cNF
[22:41] <Bashing-om> he look'n at your raw.php?i=17zh7cNF .
[22:43] <f55384> hi, has anyone had issues with midnight commander starting slow?
[22:43] <f55384> like 15 to 30 secconds to start
[22:44] <heth> Bashing-om, I updated it with gdisk output: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=9ejtpPUB
[22:45] <heth> as I see MBR is not capable of more than 2.2TB strange...
[22:46] <specsmu> yeah...  for more than 2T you need GPT
[22:47] <specsmu> gpt == kind of a pain, but ok once you get used to it.
[22:47] <specsmu> kind of like Ubuntu. :D
[22:47] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone I have a question, how do I get the Archive Mounter functionality back?
[22:47] <THE_GFR|WORK> as seen here http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/mount-archive-file-clicks-ubuntu/
[22:48] <heth> specsmu, how can you utilize 3TB then..
[22:48] <jack-> with 2 partitions? :P
[22:48] <heth> specsmu, why it's pain?
[22:49] <Bashing-om> heth: Lot's I do not know "Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B" the 512 Byte sector size gives me cause for consideration.
[22:49] <heth> jack-, good point :) but sometimes that' complication
[22:49] <specsmu> used gparted to create GPT partitions
[22:49] <rustyraptor> guys help
[22:49] <rustyraptor> I am having a problem logging in with the display manager
[22:49] <specsmu> the only trick is you need a small (1M) bios_reserved partition to hold the grub data.
[22:50] <heth> specsmu, I thought so, and I made 1MB for that, but grub isn't booting :)
[22:50] <specsmu> I haven't been paying attention, what's your error?
[22:51] <specsmu> grub is the worst boot loader out there, except for all the others
[22:51] <rustyraptor> I can log in with my guest account but not my main account. I recently switched to the nonfree drivers
[22:51] <heth> specsmu, "[10-7.00:12:33] <heth> hi. I'm having problems with GRUB and 14.04 server x64. althou I install Ubuntu and GRUB, when I reboot there is no bootable device. MB is Atom if that matters; UEFI is disabled; Boots perfect with live CD when I pick Boot from first hdd. Any troubleshooting ideas?"
[22:51] <rustyraptor> nvidia card
[22:52] <specsmu> have you set the bootable flag on the partition that includes the kernel?
[22:52] <heth> specsmu, what would you recommend if not grub?
[22:52] <gumby_> hello all. I have a 3 lcd setup using two nvidia cards and am using ubuntu driver version 304.117-0ubuntu1. I have two of the LCDs setup as screen0 and the second as screen1. When maximizing an application on screen0 it spans across both LCDs, is there a way to make the application maximize only on a single LCD. Specifically, the LCD it is app is already running on
[22:52] <heth> specsmu, I doubt
[22:52] <specsmu> heth:  grub.  like I said, except for all the others. :)
[22:52] <heth> specsmu, I don't know what else can chainload windows and work on efi
[22:53] <specsmu> heth, I'm being silly.
[22:53] <heth> ah another zombie process waiting for IO..
[22:53] <specsmu> anyway, make sure you've got the boot flag set on one of your partitions.
[22:54] <heth> specsmu, also: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=9ejtpPUB
[22:54] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone I have a question, how do I get the Archive Mounter functionality back?
[22:54] <THE_GFR|WORK> as seen here http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/mount-archive-file-clicks-ubuntu/
[22:54] <daftykins> gumby_: sounds like you're using the nvidia tech to make two screens be one, so no - you're using a setup that essentially lies to the OS :)
[22:54] <leeyaa> hello
[22:54] <specsmu> heth, which partition holds your /boot
[22:55] <leeyaa> do you think that any of this output could indicate a problem: http://oi58.tinypic.com/15f4q6a.jpg i got it from a crashed vm.
[22:55] <specsmu> toggle the boot flag on that.  It's not set.
[22:55] <heth> specsmu the /
[22:55] <specsmu> ok, toggle the boot flag on it.
[22:55] <heth> specsmu, in my case thats sda2
[22:55] <specsmu> it is separate from the bios_reserved flag and should be set.
[22:55] <heth> I believe so yes
[22:55] <specsmu> ok then... do it.  chop chop. :)
[22:56] <Ben64> specsmu: boot flag is not required...
[22:56] <gumby_> daftykins: makes sense.  Odd thing is, when I use two LCDs for Screen0 with different resolutions I don't have the issue.  When I use two LCDs for Screen0 with different resolutions its not a problem
[22:56] <rustyraptor> Umm well I am leaving now. I would appreciate it if you guys would review my problem on the forums I have gotten no reply yet.
[22:56] <rustyraptor> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2233569
[22:56] <rustyraptor> I understand the channel is a bit busy today.
[22:56] <specsmu> Ben64:  usually when I see "no bootable partitions" that's what I look for.
[22:57] <daftykins> gumby_: that makes sense since there's an edge to map to
[22:57] <heth> specsmu, I always thought that boot flags doesn't matter for linux
[22:57] <heth> specsmu, will this do it? sudo sfdisk -A2 /dev/sda
[22:57] <Ben64> heth: does grub show up at all?
[22:57] <heth> Ben64, no
[22:57] <daftykins> gumby_: here's a crazy idea, if you could manually set the second matching screen to one row of pixels less, it wouldn't be able to maximise due to not fitting - no idea if that's possible mind you :D
[22:57] <specsmu> they matter to the bios.  sometimes.
[22:58] <Ben64> then its not a boot flag problem, grub probably isn't installed
[22:58] <gumby_> daftykins: may be a bandaid.  Will think about how to give that a try
[22:58] <Ben64> heth: i'd suggest running boot-repair from the livecd, and pastebin the info here
[22:58] <heth> Ben64, I'm totally sure it is, I'm not sure it's properly installed :)
[22:59] <heth> Ben64, I didn't find a package for 14.04
[22:59] <specsmu> things learned from doing this for a long time:  after typing "shutdown -h now", wait three seconds and double check the hostname.
[23:00] <heth> specsmu, the problem with setting the boot dlag is, I cannot test if it will work, becasue if it did not I can't do anything to log on again (i'm sshed there)
[23:00] <specsmu> oh, it's not local?
[23:00] <heth> specsmu, it not at the moment
[23:00] <heth> tomorrow I'll be there
[23:00] <specsmu> I see.  then basically you're just finding oiut things to try
[23:01] <heth> specsmu, I can try many things but not test them
[23:01] <heth> but, yes.
[23:01] <specsmu> I got my VM installed.  it partitioned the virtual disk.  I don't like that, but it is what it is.
[23:01] <Ben64> heth: i'd almost guarantee its a problem with grub's install
[23:01] <heth> Ben64, I know. but what problem, and what to do?
[23:02] <Ben64> heth: probably reinstall. not sure whats wrong now
[23:02] <specsmu> heth:  this might work better if you're actually at the machine while you're here, right now it's all just conjecture.
[23:02] <heth> specsmu, you don't have a choice VMs are unaware of a blockdevices over file system over block device
[23:02] <specsmu> we give you things to try, and I'm sure you write them down and are appreciative, but you can't try them... so we're just kinda blowing smoke.
[23:03] <heth> specsmu, the best way to solve a problem is to understand it :)
[23:03] <specsmu> heth: it knows it's a virtual device...  but I'd be happy with a "install to whole disk and full speed ahead" option.
[23:03] <specsmu> maybe a checkbox "this is a VM, I've already taken care of everything, I just want you to install."
[23:03] <heth> specsmu, and you will want to recover data at some point.. then what? :)
[23:04] <specsmu> heth:  I created the volumes as an LVM. Each partition is its own LVM.  So partitioning that is nonsensical.
[23:04] <Bashing-om> heth: ;; Ben64 ;; This concerns me, but I do now want to mislead "Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT. , Logical sector size: 512 bytes" // Would that not slow a server down ? do we not want th sector size to be 4096 ? as we do have GPT partitioning ? -- re-install ??
[23:04] <heth> specsmu, Ben64, Bashing-om: do you have any idea how to install boot-repair on 14.04?
[23:05] <specsmu> I'm guessing apt-get something.   What, is the more complex question.
[23:05] <heth> specsmu, your OS on top of the VM is unaware of that
[23:05] <Bashing-om> heth: Boot-repair, I gave you my best shot at installing it.
[23:05] <heth> specsmu, I found out there are packages for 13.10 but not for 14.04
[23:06] <specsmu> heth: the OS should be unaware of it, and the installer in the VM *should*& be aware of it, that's my point. :)
[23:06] <heth> specsmu, that is not possible I'm afraid :)
[23:06] <specsmu> "This is a VM.  I've taken care of the partitioning, the filesystem creation, just install onto the filesystem and we're done here."
[23:06] <specsmu> no, it's possible, just not given the current OS. :)
[23:07] <heth> specsmu I believe that no OS can be VM aware if the VM is not friendly. and I don't know of OS that does, but maybe there are some
[23:07] <specsmu> heth:  It can be VM aware if you can tell it "You're a VM"
[23:07] <daftykins> specsmu: as lovely as your talk is about how everything should revolve around your use-cases, this channel is for support only and not policy rants
[23:08] <daftykins> so, please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[23:08] <heth> hehe.
[23:08] <specsmu> oookay.  Well, my problem is solved anyway, so there's no need for me to stick around.  bye.
[23:09] <heth>  sudo apt-get install boot-repair
[23:09] <heth> Reading package lists... Done
[23:09] <heth> Building dependency tree
[23:09] <heth> Reading state information... Done
[23:09] <heth> E: Unable to locate package boot-repair
[23:09] <heth> (sorry for spamming)
[23:09] <unopaste> heth you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[23:10] <eeee> heth: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[23:10] <eeee> sudo sed 's/trusty/saucy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yannubuntu-boot-repair-trusty.list
[23:10] <eeee> run apt-get update after that
[23:11] <heth> eeee, nice hack :)
[23:11] <daftykins> eeee: we do not advise the use of PPAs here, they are not supported.
[23:11] <eeee> daftykins: this is from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:12] <heth> daftykins, I'll have that in mind. but I'll be glad to find another way, do you have any idea what to do?
[23:12] <THE_GFR|WORK> how do I mount raw disk images with nautilus?
[23:12] <daftykins> hmm, doesn't stop it being a PPA
[23:13] <daftykins> heth: boot-repair can be used as a bootable ISO in addition to an installable program, so that's one angle
[23:13] <daftykins> "raw disk images" ?
[23:13] <daftykins> what do you define as being a raw disk image?
[23:13] <THE_GFR|WORK> daftykins: I did say that.
[23:13] <THE_GFR|WORK> daftykins: a disk image made with dd
[23:13] <daftykins> yes and my repetition denotes the desire for clarification
[23:13] <heth> daftykins, I mean another way to solve my problem :)
[23:14] <daftykins> heth: haven't been following, sorry
[23:14] <eeee> heth: me neither, but you could reinstall grub i guess ? from a livecd and chroot
[23:14] <THE_GFR|WORK> daftykins: how do I do this, in Ubuntu I used to use archivemounter until it was removed.
[23:15] <heth> eeee, I did that, it did the same nothing :)
[23:15] <daftykins> THE_GFR|WORK: so you don't want a command line solution?
[23:15] <heth> daftykins, GRUB doesn't get to show up at all it's GPT 14.04
[23:16] <THE_GFR|WORK> daftykins: no I do not.
[23:16] <eeee> heth: is this an hp laptop ?
[23:16] <daftykins> heth: sorry but it's way too late my time for me to pick a non-one-liner up right now
[23:16] <heth> eeee, no it's Atom PC
[23:16] <daftykins> THE_GFR|WORK: sorry you're on your own then
[23:16] <ice9> in 14.04 when  I connect external monitor to laptop, X breaks, it flickers and things are not displayed correctly then it's unresponsive
[23:16] <THE_GFR|WORK> daftykins: thanks
[23:17] <eeee> heth: can you access "boot options" while you boot ?
[23:18] <heth> eeee, there is no GRUB; I assume I get the BIOS telling me "There is no bootable device"
[23:18] <eeee> this isn't a dual boot ?
[23:18] <heth> eeee, fresh install fresh disk
[23:19] <heth> no os
[23:19] <eeee> sometimes the efi manager is hardcoded in the bios
[23:19] <heth> eeee, what that means?
[23:20] <eeee> i have to press boot options to access the ubuntu grub
[23:20] <heth> eeee, I see. what do you choose from that menu?
[23:20] <eeee> i choose ubuntu, then i get grub after that
[23:21] <rets5s> This might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[23:21] <eeee> if i dont press anything it will boot into windows as if grub isnt there
[23:21] <heth> eeee, hm. ok. I'll see that also. and what happens if you don't choose ubuntu
[23:21] <heth> eeee, aha. ok.
[23:21] <heth> eeee, can you set the bios to boot directly to Ubuntu?
[23:22] <eeee> well, i'd have to rename the grub files to windows files to fool the bios into loading grub
[23:22] <heth> eeee, hah. how do you do that?
[23:23] <adamcunnington> How can i add launch params to an icon on my desktop launcher?
[23:23] <adamcunnington> i.e. i want to launch google chrome with a certain --proxy-pac-url setting
[23:23] <rets5s> heth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[23:24] <eeee> heth: you rename grubx64.efi or shimx64.efi (depending on whether you have secure boot turned on or not), and put them in the place of the windows efi which is bootx64.efi
[23:24] <heth> rets5s, yes? I don't see anything about no GRUB at all
[23:24] <rets5s> adamcunnington: http://askubuntu.com/questions/176198/how-do-i-add-parameters-to-unity-icons
[23:24] <heth> eeee, ok. where is that?
[23:25] <Aleks_> is anyone here running elementary os?
[23:25] <daftykins> !elementary | Aleks_
[23:25] <IdleOne> Aleks_: no, this is an ubuntu support chammel
[23:25] <daftykins> and stay out!
[23:26] <IdleOne> daftykins: not helpful :/
[23:26] <daftykins> it points to the correct channel and network
[23:26] <daftykins> that's plenty helpful
[23:26] <eeee> heth: /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu for the ubuntu files, and /boot/efi/efi/boot for the windows files, theres another boot folder there too
[23:26] <IdleOne> daftykins: I meant the "stay out" part
[23:26] <heth> eeee, ok thanks :)
[23:26] <ObrienDave> Aleks_, you might ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, i think one of them use elementary
[23:26] <eeee> sure
[23:26] <heth> eeee, althou I don't have any other OS installed
[23:27] <eeee> yeah, i don't know if it'll work
[23:27] <heth> eeee, my boot repair seem to core dump :/ maybe 13.10 -> 14.04 something important happened.
[23:27] <eeee> i think it should pick up grub
[23:28] <Fall> most amazing nickname ever
[23:28] <Aleks_> ObrienDave_, thanks for the help. Only reason why I came here to ask is because no one seems to be active on #elementary
[23:28] <eeee> *i think it should pick up grub without renaming
[23:28] <ObrienDave> something akin to a cat walking across the keyboard LOL
[23:28] <ObrienDave> you're welcome Aleks_
[23:29] <heth> eeee, for some reason it doesn't even go to grub like there is nothing on the disk yet
[23:29] <adamcunnington> rets5s: thanks
[23:30] <heth> eeee, ok now I know it's not EFI grub it's grub-pc
[23:30] <heth> eeee, since when I installed EFI was off in BIOS. if it's on the live CD doesn't boot at all
[23:31] <eeee> when you installed was there a man at the bottom of the screen while it loaded?
[23:31] <heth> eeee, no idea what you are asking
[23:32] <eeee> when the livecd was booting, was there a tiny man at the bottom of the screen
[23:32] <heth> eeee, no idea.
[23:32] <heth> I don't think I got any graphics in server iso
[23:32] <daftykins> server would go straight to the menu i would think
[23:33] <heth> yep.
[23:34] <eeee> im not that familiar with bios grub, but did you make a bios partition
[23:34] <heth> eeee, is there an ISO image of boot-repair?
[23:34] <heth> eeee, I did, it's 1MB.
[23:34] <eeee> heth: yeah i think so
[23:35] <eeee> http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home
[23:35] <heth> eeee, I'll try that tomorrow :)
[23:37] <heth> eeee, thanks for the help. I'll hit the sack now.
[23:37] <eeee> you're welcome
[23:37] <eeee> g'nite
[23:59] <schultza> I'm running an X session over ssh as a normal user (NOT root), how do I get the whole desktop to appear as if I was local? It was a command for manager or login or something.