[04:38] <micahg> bluesabre: would another day be problematic for the 2 open things you wanted me to review?
[04:39] <bluesabre> micahg: I think that should be okay.  Do you know when the 14.04.1 freeze is?
[04:39]  * micahg checks
[04:40] <micahg> hum, should be Thursday
[04:40] <micahg> err...next thrusday
[04:44] <micahg> away
[05:01] <Unit193> OK.
[05:09] <bluesabre> ok, that should be fine then.  Thanks micahg
[05:15] <bluesabre> heading to bed, back tomorrow
[06:10] <Unit193> pidgin and xfburn seem to be the only thing holding us back on to gst 0.10.
[06:10] <Unit193> And as noted on the bp, pidgin 3.0.0 should have it fixed.
[06:20] <Noskcaj> Unit193, I've sent an email to the xfburn maintainer asking if he could look into porting it
[07:21] <Noskcaj> xfburn's maintainer says it will be ready sometime in august
[07:35] <Unit193> Well huh.
[20:06] <Noskcaj> Success! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/MicroReleaseExceptions/XFCE
[20:46] <Unit193> Wow, nice.
[20:48] <pleia2> ah yes, I was just reading the TB email, nice work Noskcaj :)
[20:48] <knome> o hai pleia2!
[20:48] <pleia2> oops
[20:48] <knome> haha
[20:48] <pleia2> :D
[20:49] <knome> no worries, i'm watching footbal
[20:49] <knome> +l
[20:49] <Unit193> Personally a bit surprised it was accepted.
[20:49] <knome> Unit193, why not?
[21:25] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, Will we want parole 0.6.2 or 0.7.0 in utopic?
[23:19] <bluesabre> Noskcaj: probably 0.7.0, but we are aiming for a short 0.7 cycle that is for testing and implementing other fixes/features
[23:20] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, ok. I'll package 0.7.0 then.
[23:21] <bluesabre> thanks, there are some new build-deps, cli options for if we want to enable clutter (I recommend that we do) https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis/parole/parole-gtk3-debian/revision/17
[23:22] <Noskcaj> ok
[23:23] <bluesabre> ochosi, we may want to consider setting cluttersink as default in xubuntu-default-settings, let me know your thoughts (or anybody else with an opinion)
[23:24] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, Do we include clutter in xubuntu already?
[23:24] <bluesabre> Noskcaj, we do not, so perhaps hold off on adding the new clutter stuff
[23:24] <Noskcaj> if not, i'd like to upload without it, then have a team discussion on if we want it
[23:24] <bluesabre> right
[23:24] <bluesabre> :)
[23:26] <Noskcaj> is the gtk ifdef enforced from build-time or run-time? (just wondering)
[23:26] <ochosi> runtime
[23:27] <ochosi> (i think)
[23:27] <bluesabre> build-time
[23:27] <ochosi> heh, ok :)
[23:27]  * ochosi concedes
[23:27] <Noskcaj> I'll put a depends-version on >= 3.10 to be safe then
[23:27]  * bluesabre is probably wrong
[23:27] <bluesabre> okie dokie
[23:31] <ochosi> Noskcaj: nice one! (the xfce microreleases)
[23:31] <Noskcaj> ty
[23:31] <Noskcaj> The only thing currently MRE worthy is clipman, but i'll try and get parole 0.6.2 into trusty later
[23:31] <ochosi> bluesabre: clutter by default, not sure... thing is though, without installing it by default, ppl can't easily select/use it
[23:32] <bluesabre> right
[23:32] <bluesabre> discussion-worthy I think :)
[23:32] <ochosi> yup
[23:32] <ochosi> haven't checked how heavy clutter is
[23:32] <Noskcaj> There might be something we can MRE to precise too, if it's worth the effort
[23:32] <ochosi> night everyone!
[23:32] <Noskcaj> g'night ochosi 
[23:33] <Noskcaj> clutter bring with it clutter transitions, for one
[23:34] <bluesabre> we're mainly using clutter because its backend seems to work on everything, and it works well in X or mir/wayland
[23:34] <bluesabre> but it is a bit more resource-intensive
[23:35] <bluesabre> but the clutter deps only add the option to use clutter, the x and xv backends are still selectable
[23:36] <bluesabre> Noskcaj: haven't pushed out 0.6.2 yet, will either do it tonight or tomorrow
[23:36] <Noskcaj> cool