[05:22] <ovidiu-florin_> jose: hello
[05:22] <jose> ovidiu-florin_: hey!
[05:22] <ovidiu-florin_> long time no see
[05:22] <ovidiu-florin_> how are you?
[05:22] <jose> I'm good, I'm good, what about you?
[05:23] <ovidiu-florin_> I have a new job and I quite enjoy it
[05:23] <ovidiu-florin_> but since I'm just starting I don't have that much free time
[05:23] <ovidiu-florin_> I have to study a lot
[05:23]  * jose has to study for his final exams
[05:23] <ovidiu-florin_> I'm getting started into embedded programming :D
[05:23] <jose> woohoo!
[05:23] <ovidiu-florin_> good luck on the exams
[05:23] <ovidiu-florin_> ;)
[05:24] <jose> thanks
[05:24] <jose> about the website
[05:24] <ovidiu-florin_> I've seen the server is up again
[05:24] <ovidiu-florin_> :D
[05:24] <jose> there are things I don't find
[05:24] <jose> I don't see any duplicate images
[05:24] <ovidiu-florin_> hmm
[05:24]  * ovidiu-florin_ checks
[05:24] <jose> also, we're waiting on the evolve guys
[05:25] <ovidiu-florin_> so, someone is still working on that?
[05:25] <ovidiu-florin_> good to know
[05:25] <jose> I think yes
[05:26] <ovidiu-florin_> jose: any news on the "Create a Team / Contributors / Sponsors page" task?
[05:27] <jose> I'll open another thread since the last one didn't have a lot of reception
[05:27] <jose> but that'll have to be tomorrow, or well, later today
[05:27]  * jose has to run to bed
[05:27] <jose> but just email me with an avalanche of tasks and they'll be done
[05:28] <ovidiu-florin_> The day just started for me, and at the new job I can't work on anything else, So same for me. In the evening
[05:28] <jose> awesome
[05:28] <jose> see you in around 12h!
[05:28] <ovidiu-florin_> jose: I'm adding them on trello
[05:28] <ovidiu-florin_> subscribe to the card
[05:28] <jose> cool :)
[05:28]  * jose is subscribed
[05:29] <ovidiu-florin_> this can be usefull
[05:29] <ovidiu-florin_> http://wordpress.org/plugins/regenerate-thumbnails/
[05:30] <jose> hmm, add it to trello and I'll investigate further on it
[05:30] <ovidiu-florin_> I was thinking of trying it out now
[05:30] <ovidiu-florin_> I'll do it
[05:31] <jose> cool then :)
[05:31]  * jose goes to bed
[05:31] <jose> laters!
[05:33] <ovidiu-florin_> jose: see ya
[07:25] <Peace-> guys but on neon latest i see
[07:25] <Peace-> vlc by default 
[07:25] <Peace-> and of course again dolphin doesn't show the video preview correctly for videos 
[07:58] <Riddell> hola chicos
[09:06] <soee> good morning
[09:09] <Riddell> soee: installing libkf5runner-data will help krunner et al, I just did away with the package
[09:09] <Riddell> not sure what to do about libkf5runner-bin however
[09:10] <Riddell> it needs to be installed but it's only a recommend (else circular dependency) and I don't want to put it in the main libkf5runner5 package as that would break updates to new soversions and make lintian unhappy
[09:11] <Riddell> apachelogger: after tarme and tagme, any chance of a branchme ?
[09:11] <Riddell> I suppose it's just tagme but running a different git command
[09:11] <apachelogger> yeah
[09:11] <Riddell> or two
[09:11] <apachelogger> still would be branchme though IMHO
[09:12] <apachelogger> Riddell: the question is ... what would you prefer branching from the tag revision or the head revision (in case they diverge)
[09:12] <Riddell> apachelogger: tag of course
[09:12] <apachelogger> yeah, pretty much the same code then ^^
[09:13] <soee> Riddell: what package is responsible to have any result in krunner search  (i assume not libkf5runner itself)
[09:13] <apachelogger> then again
[09:13] <apachelogger> Riddell: that requires version argument again :'<
[09:14] <Riddell> soee: libkf5runner-data helps as I say, and the krunner
[09:14] <Riddell> apachelogger: you really should save the version to release_data
[09:14] <soee> uhm
[09:14] <Riddell> apachelogger: it'll also require a branch name, e.g. I want to use Plasma/5.0
[09:15] <apachelogger> Riddell: that's why version
[09:15] <apachelogger> oh, yeah, branch name actually
[09:16] <apachelogger> ah tagme needs a version :O
[09:16] <apachelogger> seems silly 
[09:16] <apachelogger> Riddell: I'll refactor things to be more suitable for workspace in Randa I think
[09:17] <apachelogger> there's fixmes all over the place ^^
[09:18] <soee> some updates and list of packages kept back: baloo-kf5 fonts-thai-tlwg libmm-glib0 modemmanager
[09:20] <Riddell> soee: what happens if you    apt-get install baloo-kf5 ?
[09:24] <soee> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7774222/
[09:24] <Riddell> soee: that's all good, packaging changse
[09:25] <soee> so i can apply this changes ?
[09:25] <Riddell> sure
[09:25] <Riddell> soee: do you use kmail?
[09:26] <soee> Riddell: nope, i think it was uninstalled when installing plasma next and some packages related to it
[09:26] <soee> same as kaggregagtor etc. 
[09:26] <Riddell> soee: are you able to install it and try testing search in it? should install fine now
[09:26] <soee> something related to nepomuk package ?
[09:27] <Riddell> nepomuk is dead, it's all baloo now
[09:28] <soee> Riddell: sur one second, yup but when nepomuk was removed some packages also wit it 
[09:28] <soee> *apps
[09:28] <apachelogger> Riddell: got some release_data for me?
[09:31] <Riddell> apachelogger: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-4.98.0/4.98.0-release-data
[09:31] <apachelogger> that last line lol xD
[09:32] <apachelogger> it will fall over oxygen-fonts again :P
[09:33] <soee> Riddell: kmial installs fine, what search i should test ?
[09:34] <apachelogger> Riddell: branchme up, remember to remove oxygen-fonts and plasma-wallpapers or it'll fail 
[09:35] <apachelogger> ./branchme.rb --name Plasma/5.0
[09:35] <apachelogger> at the end of the file you can comment out the push if you just want to do a dry run
[09:36] <soee> how can i check package version  that is going to be upgraded ?
[09:39] <Riddell> soee: make sure it has some e-mail in it, and search it
[09:41] <Riddell> apachelogger: do we not want to run  git push -u origin branchname ?
[09:41] <Riddell> -u to make it track magically
[09:42] <apachelogger> Riddell: no, the dir is thrown away afterwards
[09:42] <soee> Riddell: i can search inbox, the search results are groupped by mail etc
[09:42] <Riddell> apachelogger: what dir?
[09:43] <apachelogger> Riddell: the clone is a temporary directory
[09:43] <apachelogger> it is only used to create the branch and nothing else
[09:43] <apachelogger> (git clones in releaseme are never reused for anything)
[09:44] <soee> Riddell: i can replace Dolphin same way as konsole ?
[09:45] <Riddell> soee: yep, uninstall and reinstall, it's gone away to experimental
[09:48] <Riddell> apachelogger: gotcha
[09:52] <Riddell> apachelogger: can I add a README for tagme and friends?
[09:54] <apachelogger> Riddell: sure, don't spend to much time on it though
[09:57] <apachelogger> next iteration probably can be final and move to master
[09:59] <Riddell> ah
[10:09] <apachelogger> Riddell: btw, would you have use for a version manipulation script? so it bumps versions in git and pushes?
[10:10] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes but very difficult to do that, there's no consistent format in CMakeLists.txt for what needs bumped, see comments at top of my plasma script
[10:10] <apachelogger> we had that originally for amarok... although there it was a bit different as the version in git never was automaticaly changed but always was a running version, only the tar had the version adjusted (which quite frankly is a lot more reasonable than changing the version in git itself anyway IMO :P)
[10:10] <apachelogger> Riddell: should be aligned
[10:10] <apachelogger> Riddell: frameworks can do it, there's no reason workspace couldn't 
[10:11] <apachelogger> ah the different versions across things
[10:11] <apachelogger> FWIW, I find that a bit silly anyway
[10:12] <apachelogger> regardless though... if all repos are adjusted to use a common var to set the version we can easily fiddle that into order through a script
[10:19] <Riddell> apachelogger: yep
[10:31] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:40] <Riddell> apachelogger: our phonon-backend-gstreamer is a snapshot from 1.0-porting-for-merge branch, do we want to use the phonon-backend-gstreamer 4.7.2 release or stay on this?
[10:41] <apachelogger> gst1 is still not merged...
[10:41] <shadeslayer> Randa
[10:41] <BluesKaj> well, at least I have krusader working, not a total fiasco with qt5-plasma/desktop, altho NM isn't available in sys tray for vpn 
[10:41] <Riddell> apachelogger: ok so we'll stay on that snapshot from the branch for phonon and phonon4qt5
[10:41] <shadeslayer> Randa will solve everything
[10:42] <apachelogger> Riddell: I don't think there were any qt5 changes
[10:42] <apachelogger> oh actually there were
[10:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: is our snapshot from after apr 8?
[10:45] <apachelogger> if not then the snapshot needs updating, seems Dan actually merged 4.7 into the porting branch, so the qt5 fix is there
[10:46] <Riddell>  -- Rohan Garg <rohangarg@kubuntu.org>  Thu, 03 Apr 2014 15:54:50 +0200
[10:46] <Riddell> apachelogger: ok I'll take a new snapshot
[10:46] <apachelogger> mh
[10:46] <apachelogger> it has the qt5 fix but not a syncx fix for 4.x
[10:46] <apachelogger> worth taking a snapshot eitherway
[10:47] <Riddell> apachelogger: if I change my backend setting in systemsettings for plasma 5 does that affect qt4 version?
[10:47] <apachelogger> no
[10:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: how are you coming to Randa?
[10:49] <apachelogger> dunno, I guess I should organize that at some point ^^
[10:49] <apachelogger> train from zurich anyway
[10:50] <shadeslayer> yeah
[10:53] <apachelogger> pft 200 eur by plane
[10:53] <apachelogger> always with the drunken airlines
[10:55] <Riddell> apachelogger: uh oh, kcmshell5 phonon crashes after I set it to use vlc http://paste.kde.org/pz5ezzpzv
[10:56] <apachelogger> Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/1328466
[10:57] <Riddell> good thing we're using gstreamer
[10:58] <soee> how to recognise  when to use upgrade and when dist-upgrade ?
[11:00] <Riddell> always use dist-upgrade
[11:00] <apachelogger> upgrade = doesn't remove or install stuff; dist-upgrade removes and installs stuff... so one should always use upgrade unless upgrade blocks because it needs to remove/install stuff at which point one will use dist-upgrade and check that it doesn't screw up the system
[11:00] <Riddell> or these days also   apt full-upgrade  is the same but shorter to type
[11:00] <BluesKaj> soee,  how did you get the konsole back?
[11:00]  * Riddell stares at apachelogger for giving contrary advice
[11:01] <apachelogger> alternatively as Riddell says, if one is careful enough and/or knows how to recover a system from incorrectly removed/installed packages one can always use dist-upgrade
[11:01] <apachelogger> Riddell: dist-upgrade is dangerous in a world with random PPAs floating around, heck, that's even dangerous with our PPAs :P
[11:01] <soee> BluesKaj: Riddell moved new koncole to experimental, soe just remove and install it again
[11:01] <soee> and you will get the old ona
[11:01] <soee> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7774612/
[11:01] <apachelogger> more than once has a broken dep chain caused removal of important bits
[11:01] <BluesKaj> soee,  ok thanks
[11:04] <Riddell> soee: all good I changed that today, dpkg --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libkf5runner5_5.0.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa5_amd64.deb
[11:05] <Riddell> although I suppose now it's 5.0 I should add in replaces etc
[11:08] <Riddell> apachelogger: how to test phonon qt5? I don't have any applications to try it with
[11:10] <apachelogger> sure you do, knotify :P
[11:10] <apachelogger> (assuming MK fixed the kcm that is)
[11:34] <shadeslayer> /usr/bin/ctest --force-new-ctest-process -j8
[11:34] <shadeslayer> Test project /tmp/buildd/kidletime-5.0.0/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu
[11:34] <shadeslayer> No tests were found!!!
[11:34] <shadeslayer> haha :D
[11:35] <Riddell> soee: any luck testing search in kmail?
[11:36] <yofel> shadeslayer: frameworks don't really have many tests that we can actually run :/
[11:37] <shadeslayer> my head still hurts
[11:39] <soee> Riddell: searching using kmail search field right ?
[11:39]  * yofel passes shadeslayer some coffee
[11:40] <shadeslayer> I need food
[11:40] <yofel> I can only offer coffee beans right now ^^
[11:41] <BluesKaj> ok , getting a message after login :"Could not start D-Bus, Can you call qdbus? " 
[11:41] <Riddell> soee: yes
[11:41] <soee> BluesKaj: install qt5-default
[11:42] <BluesKaj> ok soee 
[11:42] <soee> Riddell: works here, i can seatch for messages inside inbox
[11:42] <soee> Riddell: i have grouppedresults than
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Nice desktop so far, I like the desktop effects and workspace integration in system settings for one
[11:52] <soee> :)
[11:52] <soee> the biggets issue / missing feature atm for me is not shortcut to switch activity :|
[11:52] <soee> *no shortcut
[11:53] <soee> brb
[12:02] <BluesKaj> ok back to the laptop
[12:16] <soee> atm th qtcurve style is not supported ?
[12:48] <Riddell> soee: great
[12:48] <Riddell> baloo kf5 for the win
[12:58] <soee> Riddell: yup :) what about the qtcurve - it is not supported atm ?
[12:58] <Riddell> sgclark just did some packaging last night
[12:59] <Riddell> lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging-next/qtcurve  but no packages yet
[12:59] <Riddell> and dunno if it works, didn't when I tried it
[12:59] <soee> ah ok
[12:59] <sgclark> right, stills needs review and testing, which I am about to test now
[13:00] <Riddell> "The long awaited KDE Partition Manager 1.1.0 is now released" yay
[13:00] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion partitionmanager 1.1.0
[13:00] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1340180
[13:14] <BluesKaj> soee, do you have yakuake working?
[13:15] <soee> BluesKaj: sure
[13:20] <BluesKaj> not here, tried reinstalling after removal, but still doesn't see the konsole
[13:21] <Riddell> works great for me
[13:22] <soee> also for me
[13:26] <soee> BluesKaj: yakuake doesnt see ?
[13:26] <Riddell> oh libmm-qt needs some packaging love
[13:33] <BluesKaj> soee,  yakuake shows this message 
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Yakuake was unable to load the Konsole component.A Konsole installation is required to use Yakuake.
[13:33] <Riddell> apt-cache policy konsole  to confirm you have 4.13 installed
[13:33] <Riddell> run kbuildsycoca4  (if in doubt always run that with kde)
[13:34] <soee> BluesKaj: did you kill/run again yakuake or logout/login ?
[13:34] <soee> also as Riddell suggested, be sure you have old konsole installed
[13:45] <BluesKaj> Installed: 4:4.97.0~git20140623-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa3 
[13:47] <Riddell> BluesKaj: uninstall that
[13:47] <Riddell> it's your problem, you want 4.13
[13:48] <BluesKaj> http://pastebin.com/ctpR4c1F, seems it's still there
[13:50] <Riddell> well yes it's in experimental
[13:50] <Riddell> if you will use experimental you will get experimental software :)
[13:50] <Riddell> use only kubuntu-ppa/next if you just want to test released KF5 and Plasma 5 software
[13:50] <BluesKaj> ok will remove experiumental
[14:10] <sgclark> Riddell: I am rather confused, this qtcurve offers 2 themes, gtk-2 and mozilla. Enabling kde4 offers some more options , colors etc, but is this what we want for Plasma 5?
[14:10] <Riddell> sgclark: I guess eventually we want them all but for now we're only interested in qt5
[14:11] <shadeslayer> !find /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mir/clientplatform/mesa/ld.so.conf utopic
[14:12] <Riddell> sgclark: so set ENABLE_QT5=On and ENABLE_QT4 ENABLE_GTK2=off
[14:12] <sgclark> Riddell: ok
[14:12] <sgclark> Riddell: so Mozilla is the theme to test?
[14:13] <Riddell> sgclark: where do you see mozilla?
[14:14] <sgclark> usr/share/themes/QtCurve/mozilla
[14:14] <sgclark> seems wrong
[14:15] <sgclark> ..building with new parameters
[14:15] <shadeslayer> why?
[14:15] <shadeslayer> could be a theme for firefox
[14:15] <sgclark> I would think qtcurve would offer a qtcurve theme?
[14:15] <Riddell> the gtk theme has some settings for mozilla
[14:15] <shadeslayer> ^^
[14:15] <Riddell> it offers qtcurve for qt4, for qt5 and for gtk
[14:16]  * shadeslayer yawns
[14:16] <Riddell> you can package it all if you want, but I'm only interested in qt5 for now to test it with plasma 5 as it'll be the plasma 5 default in some future release
[14:18] <sgclark> I am only interested in qt5 myself, I want to be qt4 free in my test system..
[14:18] <Riddell> I like your attitude :)
[14:19] <sgclark> ok so disabling qt4/gtk rid of both themes
[14:19] <Riddell> yep
[14:19] <shadeslayer> wait what
[14:19] <shadeslayer> why
[14:19] <shadeslayer> won't that make it unavailable for Qt4 users
[14:19] <sgclark> left just qtcurve. we will have themes with breeze, so that is ok
[14:19] <shadeslayer> also would break stuff for people using Qt4 apps
[14:19] <Riddell> shadeslayer: there's the version in the archive for qt4 and gtk
[14:20] <shadeslayer> Riddell: are you sure that works with frameworks et all
[14:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well no, it's qt 5
[14:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well no, it's qt 4
[14:21] <sgclark> shadeslayer, this is for kf5 breeze only, will not affect non kf5 at all
[14:21] <apachelogger> yes no maybe
[14:21] <apachelogger> there is a shared library that is used by all qtcurve themes
[14:22] <apachelogger> if you throw a qtcurve with only the qt5 module built at the ppa it allows for visual divergence between gtk2, qt4 and qt5 as the former two would use a different version of that common lib should the qt5 version get a bump
[14:23] <apachelogger> or long story short: all 3 themes need to come out of the same source or it opens up risk for problems with the theme continuity
[14:23] <Riddell> hmm ok
[14:23] <Riddell> sgclark: I guess we go want to package it all then (probably just in experimental now)
[14:24] <sgclark> ok
[14:24] <apachelogger> Riddell: is there a reason against putting it in next?
[14:24] <apachelogger> or well, putting it in the archive for that matter ^^
[14:25] <shadeslayer> ^^
[14:25] <Riddell> apachelogger: it hasn't been released
[14:25] <apachelogger> huh
[14:25] <Riddell> unless I've missed it
[14:25] <apachelogger> Riddell: I think the plasma release dude should poke someone with a very pointy stick ^^
[14:25] <apachelogger> Riddell: still seems better suited for next
[14:25] <apachelogger> since we need it only there
[14:26] <shadeslayer> IIRC Eike mentioned something about a release soon
[14:26] <apachelogger> soon is hopefully before 5.0 gets released
[14:26] <soee> id liek to see this qtcureve for next :)
[14:28] <Riddell> I wonder where the default gets set
[14:29]  * Riddell finds widgetStyle=oxygen in kdeglobals
[14:31] <Riddell> hmm, that's in kdelibs4support
[14:31] <shadeslayer> sgclark: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/179572597/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.kwindowsystem_5.0.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa4_UPLOADING.txt.gz
[14:31] <shadeslayer> sgclark: I don't see the tests being run at all there
[14:32] <BluesKaj> ok , now krunner won't launch 
[14:33] <shadeslayer> whops
[14:33] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^ was meant for you
[14:33] <shadeslayer> y u no check if tests actually run :(
[14:33] <shadeslayer> makes me feel less bad for not checking copyrights :p
[14:34] <Riddell> :)
[14:36] <soee> BluesKaj: probably some packages missing, had the same issue
[14:37] <soee> BluesKaj: try to install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop
[14:38] <soee> Riddell:  when installing kubuntu-plasma5-desktop this are going to be removed: khelpcenter4 kubuntu-docs ok ?
[14:38] <BluesKaj> soee,  pretty sure I already installed it, but I'll check
[14:38] <Riddell> soee: sure
[14:40] <Riddell> BluesKaj: make sure you have libkf5runner5 5.0.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa5
[14:44] <soee> i think iv fixed partialy my problem with locales, i had to add 2 entries in /etc/environment
[14:50] <Riddell> sgclark, shadeslayer, apachelogger: new qtcurve in a few days the author hopes, best use git snapshot until then
[14:50] <shadeslayer> cool
[14:53] <soee> sddm is required by kubuntu-plasma5-desktop ?
[14:56] <Riddell> soee: no but it'll be the default so we may as well get used to it
[14:57] <soee> Riddell: im asking because i have info: kubuntu-plasma5-desktop : Wymaga: sddm ale nie jest zainstalowany
[14:57] <soee> it requires sddm but is not installed
[14:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I haven't uploaded sddm to the PPA
[14:58] <soee> it suggest to use -f to fix the problem, so the sddm is going to be installed
[14:58] <shadeslayer> unless you did :p
[14:59] <BluesKaj> Riddell,  yeah libkf5runner5 5.0.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa5 is installed , but i'm getting this now, http://pastebin.com/79t6kSA3
[14:59] <BluesKaj> sddm won't install
[14:59] <BluesKaj> o0
[14:59] <soee> :)
[15:00] <soee> force-overwrite, but im afraid it might break lightdm or smth ?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> same as soee
[15:01] <soee> BluesKaj: di you had kmix activated by default ?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> yes I think so , but it's not showing up in the sys tray, soee
[15:05] <soee> BluesKaj: yeah that what im asking about 
[15:06] <soee> activated once shows up next time
[15:09] <sgclark> Riddell: ok qtcurve as far as I can see is functioning as expected, can you review the packaging?
[15:12] <Riddell> sgclark: in bzr?
[15:12] <sgclark> yes
[15:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: * Rename solid-bin to libkf5solid-bin to conform to naming of similar
[15:13] <shadeslayer>   framework packages
[15:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: are we adding Breaks/Preplaces
[15:13] <shadeslayer> because this stuff is not in the archive
[15:13] <Riddell> sgclark: got a source tar?
[15:14] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: Riddell said not
[15:14] <apachelogger> guess after final we should ^^
[15:15] <Riddell> if it's all going into the archive we can consider the first upload to archive as version -0ubuntu1 and ignore any breaks/replaces before that I'd say
[15:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok, fwiw that's from you
[15:16] <shadeslayer> so I'll drop it
[15:16] <shadeslayer> hm
[15:16] <shadeslayer> solid probably needs udisks and stuff
[15:17] <Riddell> shadeslayer: does kdelibs4 solid depend on that stuff?
[15:17] <shadeslayer> well, solid-hw that comes from kde-runtime does
[15:17] <shadeslayer> and we ship libkfsolid-bin
[15:17] <shadeslayer> which should as well
[15:18] <Riddell> kdelibs4 version Recommends: udisks2, upower
[15:18] <Riddell> and then they get seeded as well
[15:18] <sgclark> Riddell: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fl6m485uioyox0f/kde-style-qtcurve_1.8.18~git20140709.orig.tar.gz
[15:18] <Riddell> although still only recommend
[15:18] <apachelogger> that wouldn't change the fact that the solid packaging is wrong then :P
[15:18] <shadeslayer> reverse-depends udisks2 | grep -i runtime
[15:18] <shadeslayer> * kde-runtime
[15:20] <sgclark> so what was the verdict on -data packages? I am one of those silly users that did not install recommended and things are not working as expected =P
[15:20] <shadeslayer> that's quite silly tbh
[15:20] <shadeslayer> Ubuntu does not support users not installing recommends
[15:20] <Riddell> sgclark: seems data packages are not needed unless they're so large that lintian complains about them
[15:20] <shadeslayer> end of discussion
[15:20] <Riddell> but if they exist the lib package should depend not recommend it
[15:21] <sgclark> Riddell: ok so remove all data packages? 
[15:21] <Riddell> yeah I guess so
[15:21] <sgclark> lol @ shadeslayer
[15:21] <Riddell> hang on...
[15:22] <apachelogger> (depends is the relationship unless you can proof that the thing works without the data - which is almost just about never the case)
[15:23] <shadeslayer> yofel: re multiarch, do different mtimes cause issues if localization is shipped in the lib?
[15:24] <shadeslayer> I recall you mentioning something about that
[15:24] <Riddell> sgclark: does qtcurve compile for you? I get an error in the qt4 plugin
[15:24] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: the sums must match
[15:24] <sgclark> yes
[15:24] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: oh, the md5sums?
[15:24] <shadeslayer> most interesting, can you point me to the docs?
[15:24] <apachelogger> whatever sums dpkg uses these days
[15:24] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I cannot
[15:25] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what's the problem anyway?
[15:25] <shadeslayer> :(
[15:25] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I wanted to read up on magic
[15:25] <apachelogger> google is your friend
[15:25] <sgclark> Riddell: hold up, did not run through pbuilder after adding qt4
[15:27] <shadeslayer> can't find it, but ok
[15:27] <shadeslayer> I'll take apachelogger's word for it
[15:28] <shadeslayer> Riddell: sgclark go for it, but plz test and make sure you add appropriate Breaks/Replaces for Tier 1 frameworks
[15:28] <shadeslayer> since I've already uploaded/released those
[15:38] <shadeslayer> are we building with aspell now? I thought we only built with hunspell
[15:40] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^
[15:40] <shadeslayer> though changelog doesn't say why
[15:40] <Riddell> um, dunno
[15:40] <Riddell> should follow kdelibs no?
[15:41] <sgclark> Riddell: ugh, do you know what the qt4 equivalent to qtbase5-dev is for the qt4 bits?
[15:41] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yeah, but you did sonnet ( according to the copyright ) , and it builds with aspell
[15:42] <Riddell> "no build-dep on libaspell-dev, aspell" says kde4libs
[15:42] <Riddell> hmm guess I got that wrong
[15:42] <Riddell> shadeslayer: please fix if you're on it
[15:43] <Riddell> sgclark:  apt-cache showsrc kde-style-qtcurve   may tell you
[15:43] <Riddell> sgclark: you should probably also have separate packages for the qt4 and qt5 styles
[15:43] <sgclark> ok
[15:45] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7775810/
[15:47] <Riddell> shadeslayer: kde4libs only Suggests: hspell
[15:47] <Riddell> I think not everyone cares if they can spell in hebrew
[15:47] <Riddell> that'll get brought in by language packs I think
[15:47] <shadeslayer> hm
[16:22] <sgclark> Riddell: qtcurve should compile now.
[16:35] <Riddell> sgclark: I'm still getting a compile error, maybe I have something installed that confuses it, it worked for you in pbuilder?
[16:35] <sgclark> Riddell: yep passed pbuilder
[16:45] <Riddell> Plasma 5.0.0! http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-5.0.0/
[16:45] <Riddell> you heard it here first
[16:46] <soee_> ;p
[16:52] <kubotu> feed branches-next had 7 updates, showing the latest 6
[17:13]  * BluesKaj waits for sddm install error to be fixed..these colours are not my taste and desktop extra themes and colours fail to download. Guess thats all part of the plasma5 growing pains
[17:19]  * sgclark also waits for sddm error to be fixed..
[17:20] <sgclark> shadeslayer: are you looking at the sddm error? I can't test my packages till this is fixed :(
[17:21] <Riddell> he's wandered of
[17:21] <Riddell> off
[17:21] <Riddell> what's the error?
[17:21] <sgclark> Riddell: breeze is uploaded to bzr, can't test till sddm stops barfing
[17:21] <sgclark> one sec
[17:23] <sgclark> Riddell: also , notice how they put localization files in a -i18n package, is that something we want to do rather than -data?
[17:24] <Riddell> sgclark: just use lightdm if sddm is an issue
[17:24] <Riddell> sgclark: who does?
[17:24] <sgclark> Riddell: I used debain package as starter for qtcurve
[17:25] <sgclark> Riddell: kubuntu-plasma5-desktop has sddm as depend
[17:25] <BluesKaj> here' the sddm error http://pastebin.com/1irRnwRA
[17:26] <sgclark> thanks BluesKaj
[17:26] <BluesKaj> np sgclark
[17:27] <Riddell> sgclark: on a linux terminal you can run  sudo stop sddm; sudo start lightdm
[17:27] <BluesKaj> trying to overwrite /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.freedesktop.DisplayManager.conf
[17:27] <Riddell> BluesKaj: sudo dpkg --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/sddm_0.1.0~git20140624-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1_amd64.deb
[17:28] <Riddell> and nudge shadeslayer to get that file renamed
[17:28] <sgclark> Riddell: thanks ^^ that is what I need
[17:32] <BluesKaj> Riddell, dpkg: error: need an action option
[17:33] <Riddell> add a --install somewhere
[17:34] <BluesKaj> -i 
[17:36] <BluesKaj> ok -i added to the string worked
[17:44] <sgclark> Riddell: ok breeze is ready and tested, looks good :)
[17:46] <Riddell> magifico
[18:11] <Riddell> hmm, SC 4.14 beta 1
[18:12] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: Riddell upstream has been nudged
[18:12] <shadeslayer> they'll fix it in the next release
[18:13] <shadeslayer> expect a resolution tomorrow
[18:13] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw you mentioned that dh_libkdeinit needs fixing right?
[18:13] <shadeslayer> something like that
[18:14] <sgclark> Riddell: err those tars, those the ones we just packaged 4.98?
[18:14] <yofel> shadeslayer: it doesn't handle the kf5 world
[18:14] <shadeslayer> roger
[18:14] <yofel> IIRC
[18:15] <shadeslayer> I'll put it down on my todo
[18:15] <Riddell> sgclark: 4.98 was the release candidate, now we have tars for 5.0, the final thing!
[18:16] <sgclark> Riddell: ooh
[18:17] <sgclark> Riddell: want me to package them? :)
[18:19] <Riddell> sgclark: oh yes
[18:19] <Riddell> sgclark: I'm running the initial upload script now
[18:20] <Riddell> sgclark: but in the mean time there is libmm-qt and plasma-workspace-wallpapers that need packaged to make Plasma 5 complete
[18:20] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer,  riddel gave me the overwrite command and that solved the problem
[18:20] <BluesKaj> Riddell,  rather
[18:20] <sgclark> Riddell: ok, on it
[18:20] <BluesKaj> I had it in my cli text reference file 
[18:21] <BluesKaj> but forgot about it
[18:21] <sgclark> Riddell: booked my tickets for akadamy last night btw :)
[18:21] <Riddell> yay!
[18:22] <Riddell> sgclark: flying to vienna?
[18:22] <sgclark> Riddell: yes, then we are going to take a train
[18:22] <sgclark> I am traveling with valorie
[18:24] <Riddell> guess you already have a room mate then
[18:24] <Riddell> nobody is organised enough to want to be my room mate
[18:26] <sgclark> :(
[18:28] <sgclark> Riddell: libmm-qt is there a tar? Or grab git again?
[18:28] <Riddell> sgclark: yeah with plasma 5 bits
[18:28] <sgclark> ok
[18:29] <Riddell> hang on..
[18:29] <Riddell> sgclark: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-5.0.0/libmm-qt-5.0.91.tar.xz
[18:30] <sgclark> found it
[18:51] <kubotu> feed branches-next had 25 updates, showing the latest 6
[19:34] <Riddell> hmm, this script really needs to be fixed to take a list of packages and not just look for a version number http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.0.0_utopic.html
[19:34] <Riddell> now it lists both kf5 and plasma
[19:41] <Riddell> sgclark: all yours, I'm out of energy for today http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.0.0_utopic.html
[19:41] <sgclark> ok
[19:50] <kubotu> feed branches-next had 22 updates, showing the latest 6
[20:10]  * Riddell snoozes
[21:39] <Corodius> Oooh new Oxygen-Fonts :) I Love that Font, no idea why, I usually don't mind about fonts too much, but it is just so clear and readable in, well, every situation I have tried hehe
[22:09] <allee> Riddell: https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Binary_Packages mentions canonical-qt5-edgers ppa  but this does not exist.  Which one instead?    qt5-daily  or is  qt5 in utopic recent enough for kf5 utopic?  
[22:14] <sgclark> allee: Next has dependency set to https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-005 for Qt5
[22:15] <allee> oh, cool team name
[22:15] <allee> sgclark: thx
[22:17] <allee> sgclark: for info: upgrading utopic with kf5 ppa and plasma-desktop was hold back because plasma-desktop-data is not installed
[22:19] <sgclark> allee: umm, I did not have that problem. Not sure how I could reproduce
[22:19] <allee> sgclark: needs to  Replace: kde-workspace-data as both pkgs have  fonts-package.png
[22:20] <sgclark> allee: ok thanks
[22:20] <allee> sgclark:  I assume on your sys kde-workspace-data was already deinstalled?
[22:21] <sgclark> allee: yeah probably was not installed
[22:21] <allee> sgclark: thx for your cool work!!
[22:24] <allee> sgclark: Next ;-) plasma-workspace depends on libkf5baloocore5 which is no longer available
[22:30] <sgclark> allee: yeah I am right in the middle of packaging 5.0.0
[22:31] <allee> sgclark: okay, great thx!!  So I'll try tomorrow again (or ping me if there something to try/test)