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AnyeloColombianhi people02:02
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sorbolenehey guys, just wondering if anyone has had issues with a TP-Link WN822N on lubuntu 14.04?05:15
sorbolenemine seems to cut out after a few minutes. i've been probing countless forum posts but no joy05:15
trijntjeHi all, what is the name of the network manager lubuntu uses? I installed lubuntu-core only, which doesn't include the network manager so I have to install it manually06:59
Unit193network-manager and network-manager-applet for the applet.06:59
trijntjeUnit193: thanks a lot!07:00
Unit193Yep.07:00
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ngirardHi folks. I've successfully installed Lubuntu's latest version. Problem is, nm-applet won't let me connect to any wireless network (the connect button is greyed out). Any thoughts ?11:09
JohnDoe_71Rusngirard: first, right mouse click on nm-applet icon. check point wireless. if not success see logs, may be need firmware for wireless11:19
ngirardHi JohnDoe_71Rus. Thanks for your feedback. What do you mean by "check point wireless" ?11:21
JohnDoe_71Rushttp://i.stack.imgur.com/bNwS5.png Enabled wireless11:22
JohnDoe_71Rushttp://blog-pics.chewearn.com/2009-01/ics-wired02.jpg11:23
ngirardJohnDoe_71Rus: Aha. Got it, thanks. Well the driver is imho working just fine, the wireless is enabled, I can see various access points around me, including the one I want to connect to. A dialog box asking for a private key pops up, but its "connect" button is greyed out11:25
ngirardFor a given access point "ap", I can see that a related /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ap  file was created11:26
ngirardits contents looks fine, except for the absent private key11:27
ngirardI tried to manually edit the file and add the missing "psk=xxxxxxxxx" line, then restarted networking and network-manager11:29
ngirardunfortunately nm-applet kept asking for the private key with that goddamn dialog box with greyed out connect button11:30
melodiehi11:30
ngirardmelodie: hi11:30
melodiengirard install wicd, wicd-gtk, wicd-daemon, stop all network-manager services, killall nm-applet and restart your system11:31
melodiethen you could get a better result11:31
melodieor better:11:31
melodieinstall the three wicd packages, reinstall network-manager-gnome and network-manager, update your system, then unininstall the network-manager and network-manager-gnome (but have the packages in the cache of apt) then restart11:32
melodieif you still have the packages in the cache, you may reinstall them easily, (let's suppose wicd-gtk would fail you).11:33
melodieand you might also need to check if in your home, there aren't any left files from nm-applet (not sure now if there are any, I never checked)11:34
melodiengirard you can have a wired connection, right?11:34
ngirardmelodie: thanks for the solution & the detailed steps ! I might very well end up doing this ; but I'm a bit concerned about wicd. I tried it in the past, but finally switched back to network-manager, for reasons I admittedly completely forgot. But the laptop i'm setting up is destined to africa, so i wish to make sure its config is rock solid before shipping it11:47
ngirardmelodie: yes, i have a wired connection, alghough i'm currently not in front of the laptop currently. Its 2 pm here in france, and i'll get back to it aroung 8pm11:48
ngirardThis "greyed out" problem, I had the feeling that it was related to the fact that both ifupdown and network-manager coexist within the same system, while not being compatible. So i was confident it could be solved easily. For instance I edited /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and changed11:51
ngirardmanaged=false11:51
ngirardto11:51
ngirardmanaged=true11:51
ngirardin the ifupdown section, but it didn't seem to have any effect11:52
ngirard(much to my surprise)11:52
ngirardmelodie: would you recommend wicd over network-manager in any manner ? Or just as a last chance, in case of trouble with nm ?11:56
melodiengirard lately it has worked better for me (for one time for test) in a Trusty box than network-manager did, so you can give it a try12:39
melodiewicd-gtk was not appearing in the systray by default, and if I was adding it to my autostart file, it was appearing but also the large window box appeared at same time, this is really a detail. else than that it was working perfectly, even with changing wired to wireless and vice versa on the fly12:40
melodiengirard therefore I recommand you use the one that fits better your needs12:41
melodierecommend*12:41
user123321how to change the notebook brightness in lubuntu? In Ubuntu, there's a screen brightness option, but is it available in lubuntu?13:50
user123321after googling, I found http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/xrandr.1.html13:51
user123321any advice?13:51
phillwmine works fine using Fn + ScreenBrighten / ScreenDim. It is pretty laptop specific, I've always been lucky as all of my laptops have worked with no tweaking.14:00
user123321phillw, yep, that way works. wondering if there's a software-based way, as in Ubuntu.14:02
phillwuser123321: what is the graphics chipset for your laptop?14:08
user123321phillw, ATI14:09
user1233211 GB14:09
user1233215xxx14:09
phillwtry the 2nd answer at http://askubuntu.com/questions/492251/brightness-control-command-on-startup-applications-is-not-working (he has two different suggestions).14:10
ngirardmelodie: thanks again for your feedback ! I'll try & work this out tonight. Cheers !14:43
user123321phillw, cool, thanks.15:10
hsufrdwould you tell me please ? how much disk space/ram  lubuntu requires to work properly , i want to install it  dual boot with windows .15:59
hsufrd????16:02
raalexI just solved a problem with my lubuntu installation20:10
raalexand now everything is fine again; life is awesome20:11
phillwit's a good feeling when things come together :)20:12
raalexI love being able to figure out what's wrong20:13
raalexand fixing it, without just reinstalling the whole damn thing20:13
raalexbut I am also big into solving problems20:13
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chspnkhey there :)21:16
chspnknobody chatting here?21:19
phillwchspnk: this area is for support, #lubuntu-offtopic is for general chat :)21:20
chspnkokay :D los support level in here21:21
chspnkno problems with lubuntu. very fine :)21:21
chspnkso can i ask sth about my system in here? :)21:22
phillwchspnk: yes, lubuntu questions are asked in here.21:26
chspnkim running lubuntu on my thinkpad and as i wanted to try another debian based linux distro i tried mint21:27
phillwI've never used it21:27
chspnkunfortunately on my old notebook21:27
chspnkwell i think its too heavy for this old bucket21:28
chspnki just wanted to know whether lubuntu will be the right one for it21:28
chspnkan old amd x2 (turion i guess?) w 2gb of ram21:29
chspnkill have to use it for a few days/weeks as my thinkpad needs to be repaired :/21:29
phillwlubuntu should be fine on it. use the i686 version, it is a little less hungry on CPU time.21:29
chspnkgreat. can you tell me the main difference between lubuntu and xubuntu21:31
chspnkcant tell why, but i never liked xubuntu...21:31
chspnkwhereas lubuntu instant got me :D21:31
phillwchspnk: we share the same core. xubuntu is based on xcfe and choose a slightly different set of default applications. Lubuntu uses lxde. I have tested xubuntu during the QA testing cycles, I find it okay. Just that I prefer lubuntu.21:35
chspnki know about the xfce/lxde difference and software is no thing to worry about to me21:36
chspnkas it is replaced within minutes21:36
chspnksuch as browser etc21:36
chspnknevertheless i like lubuntu ..i love lubuntu21:37
chspnkjust a few things that i dont understand why its not working21:37
phillwwhat is not working?21:37
chspnkfor example my volume and mute buttons21:38
chspnkof my thinkpad21:38
phillwgive me a couple of minutes21:38
chspnkooookay :D21:38
chspnkdidnt want to make you work ;D just a little smalltalk^^21:39
chspnki have to correct: it is working, but definitely not as it should do21:40
phillwchspnk: have a read of http://askubuntu.com/questions/461093/volume-buttons-not-working-in-14-0421:41
phillwthat may not work for lubuntu, as it seems gnome.. but ubuntu now uses unity... So, give it a try.21:42
chspnkwell i was look for a solution on this problem for long21:44
phillwlaptops are a never ending source of little annoying bugs.....21:45
chspnkthe last i did was writing a little script doing that work for me in the right way and put it into the lubuntu-rc.xml21:45
chspnkdont know if this is a good solution but it worked, the only annoying thing is that the osd didnt work21:46
chspnkand i was too stupid to do it within the script21:46
chspnk:D21:46
chspnkbash on the first look is like wow, this is so easy. and on the second its just like... chinese i guess.. :D21:47
phillwI used to be a good script kid, but took ten years out and have not devoted the time to getting back into it. I'm not too bad at reading it, but too rusty at writing.22:02
phillwchspnk: you may also want to have a read of http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work#Xorg_problems from the think-pad group.22:05
chspnkthank you for your time :)22:16
chspnkphillw: ill give it a try with lubuntu22:16
chspnkmaybe ill come back later22:16
chspnkcu ;)22:16
phillwchspnk: just been told, wxl also has thinkpad, he was away, but is often on here if my suggestions do not work.22:17
wxlchspnk: i didn't read the back log though so you'll have to fill me in :)22:18
chspnkwxl: i have problems with volume and mute buttons on my thinkpad x230t22:19
chspnkespecially with the mute button22:20
chspnkbut i dont know if its a problem with lubuntu or with lubuntu working in the right way with the hardware22:20
wxlchspnk: well i have a r60 and didn't even need to mess with it to get it to behave22:20
wxli wonder what keycode they give22:21
wxli could fire up the thinkpad later tonight and see what i egt22:22
wxlthen we could compare22:22
wxlyou can figure it out with `xev`22:22
wxlcuz if we have the same keycodes, it should work the same22:22
chspnkthats right22:22
wxlwhy don't you drop a line to the mailing list and that will remind me to look when i get home22:23
chspnkoh just dont stress ;)22:23
wxlk22:23
chspnkdidnt want to make anyone work for me in here ;)22:24
chspnkso youre working right now?22:24
chspnklets say at work..^^22:24
wxlyes i'm at work22:25
wxlbut no worries i like helping22:25
wxli already work for lubuntu anyways22:25
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chspnk_tpthis is me on my tp22:26
chspnkill just quit here22:26
wxlheheh22:26
wxli'm on *gasp* kubuntu right now22:26
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chspnk:D22:27
chspnkkubuntu.... i tried it one time and never came back to it ;)22:27
wxlwe use it at work22:27
wxlwhich is unfortunate22:27
wxli would have much rather used lubuntu22:27
chspnkah okay, much better than windows anyway..=?22:27
wxlkubuntu makes system administration more difficult than it needs to be22:27
chspnki'll be using windows at work22:29
wxlew22:29
chspnk;D22:29
wxlhopefully not xp :)22:29
chspnkwindows 7 i guess22:30
chspnkmaybe 8.122:30
wxlbetter than 822:30
chspnkwe'll see22:30
chspnki'll start at september22:30
* chspnk -> just another student that failed 22:31
chspnkas you are working you live in the us?22:31
chspnkyayy just installed lubuntu on my old notebook23:33
chspnkand it doesn't work -.-23:36
wxlwhat doesn't work chspnk ?23:36
chspnkafter selecting it in grub i get into a initramfs prompt23:37
chspnkright after a busybox message23:38
wxlthat, to me, sounds like it might be an error with the installation media23:38
chspnkoh nooo -.-23:38
wxldid you md5 the iso and the media itself? or run the check media tool?23:38
chspnkof course i didn't x)23:39
chspnkmd5sums match..23:40
chspnkoh come on.. what's that.. lubuntu just can't do that to me..23:42
chspnk:D23:42
wxlchspnk: of the installation media itself, too? and did you run the check in the initial menu?23:42
chspnkwhat do you mean initial menu?23:43
chspnksorry about asking that stupid - how can i check the media?23:43
wxlchspnk: where it asks if you want to install, try out lubuntu, etc.23:43
wxl!md5 | chspnk23:43
ubottuchspnk: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows23:43
chspnkif i'm doing it right with dd if=/dev/sdb1 bs=2048 count=xxxxxxx width /dev/sdb1 being my device it does definitely not match23:52
wxlchspnk: well there you go. so you're using usb. what tool did you use to install?23:53
chspnkunetbootin23:53
wxli assume you know what device you have?23:53
wxl(sudo fdisk -l if not)23:54
chspnkyes i do23:54
chspnk/dev/sdb is my usb23:54
chspnk1 the partition23:54
chspnkis there a better way than using unetbootin23:55
wxljust do it against /dev/sdb not /devsdb123:55
wxlyou can use dd to do it23:55
wxli would say unetbootin is 99% reliable23:55
chspnkthe other partitions won't disturb this?23:56
wxlchspnk: you have other partitions on there?23:56
chspnkyep23:56
wxlchspnk: well that kind of messes everything up XD23:56
chspnki always had a live system on my usb and a ntfs partition for transferring data23:57
wxlchspnk: i doubt you would have problems if you just had the installation media on there23:57
wxlyou might want to try to have the installer check itself to be sure23:57
chspnkok, wait i'll have a look for another usb ^^23:58
chspnk;D23:58
wxlchspnk: ddid you use that same usb to install on your thinkpad?23:58
chspnkeh.. don't know23:59
chspnki guess no, this is my newest and biggest one23:59
chspnki bought it after i had my tp23:59
wxlhave you ever had the install work with those parittions?23:59

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