| pitti | Bonjour | 05:06 |
|---|---|---|
| seb128 | good morning desktopers! | 07:01 |
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| didrocks | hey seb128! | 07:04 |
| seb128 | didrocks, lut ;-) | 07:10 |
| Laney | hey ho | 08:03 |
| seb128 | Laney, hohey | 08:04 |
| seb128 | wie gehts? | 08:04 |
| Laney | pretty good thanks | 08:04 |
| Laney | last night I played Papers Please then fell asleep during the football ;-) | 08:04 |
| seb128 | what a boring game | 08:05 |
| Laney | found out the result this morning though | 08:05 |
| seb128 | neither team wanted to risk playing and taking a goal | 08:05 |
| didrocks | Papers Please isn't a boring game :) | 08:05 |
| Laney | yeah that's what happens I guess | 08:05 |
| Laney | you just tighten up because the stakes are high | 08:05 |
| seb128 | Germany didn't | 08:05 |
| Laney | didrocks: it kind of is in a way, but that's also the point | 08:05 |
| seb128 | they scorer 7-1 | 08:05 |
| seb128 | scored | 08:06 |
| Laney | I mean that I can understand why a game might be like that | 08:06 |
| didrocks | Laney: training for the China trip? :) | 08:06 |
| Laney | even if I don't like games decided on penalties | 08:06 |
| seb128 | right, same here | 08:06 |
| Laney | didrocks: I always take the bribes ;-) | 08:07 |
| didrocks | ahah | 08:07 |
| Laney | or let people in if they have a good story | 08:07 |
| * Laney is the best guard | 08:07 | |
| Laney | hm | 08:32 |
| Laney | what's happened to ubuntu-bug? | 08:33 |
| Laney | it's trying to call "whoopsie-upload-all" now, whatever that is | 08:33 |
| Laney | aha https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1339663 | 08:34 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1339663 in apport (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-bug fails with "whoopsie-upload-all: error: unrecognized arguments" when /var/lib/apport/autoreport exists" [Undecided,New] | 08:34 |
| pitti | Laney: workaround: use apport-cli | 08:34 |
| pitti | I'll fix it ASAP, but I really need to finish that umockdev thing that I promised the Mir guys | 08:34 |
| Laney | which is 1336685 | 08:35 |
| * Laney dupes | 08:35 | |
| Laney | pitti: okay, thanks! | 08:35 |
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| darkxst | Hey Laney, pitti, seb128 , didrocks | 09:18 |
| didrocks | hey darkxst! | 09:18 |
| seb128 | hey darkxst | 09:18 |
| darkxst | very wet down under! | 09:19 |
| Laney | yo | 09:19 |
| pitti | hey darkxst | 09:21 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 09:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, salut, ça va ? | 09:22 |
| pitti | seb128: ça va bien ! I've been debugging an umockdev regression with latest X.org synaptics driver for hours, and finally found the reason | 09:23 |
| pitti | seb128: did you see last night's game? | 09:23 |
| pitti | I didn't, and after reading the outcome this morning I'm glad that I didn't | 09:23 |
| darkxst | so what is happening with gnome-desktop then? I can't reproduce your races (Laney) | 09:24 |
| Laney | was hoping Robert would reply, no news since my email | 09:24 |
| darkxst | Laney, ok | 09:25 |
| darkxst | we have a similar bug on trusty but pretty sure that is due to mismatch between gnome-shell using displayconfig and g-s-d xrandr using direct xrandr calls | 09:26 |
| Laney | can you think how I can debug early start of the displayconfig that gets bus activated? | 09:27 |
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| Laney | the problem is any subsequent launches make the problem get fixed | 09:27 |
| Laney | so I really need to get inside the first one | 09:27 |
| darkxst | Laney, I tend to drop in wrapper scripts in place of the real binary | 09:28 |
| Laney | but I'll need it to start an interactive process (gdb) | 09:28 |
| darkxst | I did manage to do that once | 09:30 |
| Laney | maybe I can upstart launch a terminal which runs gdb and sets the breakpoints and so on ... | 09:32 |
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| seb128 | pitti, sorry, was otp for visa stuff ... yeah, I saw the game, most boring game ever | 09:48 |
| seb128 | none of the team dared playing | 09:48 |
| pitti | seb128: yeah, I read the summaries this morning | 09:48 |
| seb128 | they just turned round with the ball in the middle waiting | 09:48 |
| pitti | afraid to win.. | 09:48 |
| seb128 | for the whole match | 09:48 |
| darkxst | Laney, I have in the past launched gdb in an xterm via wrapper script, however not sure if you can set a breakpoint from commandline, I probably used g_breakpoint in the code) | 10:11 |
| Laney | you can give it a script to run | 10:11 |
| darkxst | Laney, oh '-iex' | 10:12 |
| didrocks | Fatal Python error: PyImport_GetModuleDict: no module dictionary! | 10:26 |
| didrocks | hum… | 10:26 |
| didrocks | no info of where this happened | 10:26 |
| didrocks | and core dump | 10:26 |
| seb128 | gdb! | 10:28 |
| darkxst | didrocks, I am going to say, welcome to the horrendous world of python bindings ;) | 10:29 |
| didrocks | heh | 10:29 |
| didrocks | I'm sure it remembers good story to mvo as well | 10:29 |
| darkxst | seb128, pybt is at best pot luck | 10:30 |
| darkxst | I do a fair bit of my PhD work in a python wrapper around a c++ library | 10:31 |
| darkxst | it is impossible to find the underlying bugs (in the library) via any combination of python, gdb and what not | 10:32 |
| Laney | I had similar with python-apt a little while ago | 10:33 |
| Laney | all of the marshalling makes it a nightmare | 10:34 |
| Laney | I did manage to use faulthandler to get a quite good backtrace though | 10:34 |
| darkxst | Laney, maybe, but it seems a lot quicker to just write test cases in c++ and gdb that | 10:39 |
| Laney | depends where the bug is | 10:41 |
| darkxst | Laney, right, in our case the python stuff is just bindings for c++ code, so bugs are 99% in the c++ code | 10:42 |
| darkxst | its all pretty crap though, a lot of bugs are just python GC'ing objects etc | 10:45 |
| darkxst | I would happily send python to the furnaces, but I have well thousands of lines of code here ;( | 10:48 |
| Laney | shoulda used haskell :-) | 10:50 |
| darkxst | Laney, I didnt write the libraries, and if I did they wouldn't have been rubbush c++ | 10:51 |
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| * didrocks encounters again a python bug… http://bugs.python.org/issue21044 | 11:12 | |
| ogra_ | blame barry | 11:12 |
| didrocks | for everything! | 11:12 |
| ogra_ | :) | 11:12 |
| didrocks | I wonder why issue only shows up when the decompression is threaded though | 11:14 |
| davmor2 | didrocks: no for every and anything you blame popey for python specifics you blame barry and for stuff breaking you blame ogra_ :D | 11:15 |
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| didrocks | ok, workarounded this bug | 11:31 |
| didrocks | will then poke barry | 11:31 |
| didrocks | time for a late run | 11:32 |
| didrocks | then, once back, will look at the tracker MIR (finally) | 11:32 |
| darkxst | didrocks, yay! | 11:37 |
| pitti | configure: error: You must have one of the following versions of lcov: 1.6 1.7 1.8 1.9 1.10 (found: 1.11). | 11:48 |
| pitti | hm, seems our gnome-common is too old for utopic's lcov version | 11:48 |
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| pitti | ah, not even fixed upstream yet | 11:49 |
| * pitti adds to his large pile of TODO | 11:50 | |
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| marga | I don't understand this policy of asking people that are affected by exactly the same bug to file new reports | 12:22 |
| marga | eg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1221995 | 12:22 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1221995 in linux (Ubuntu) "0a12:0001 Bluetooth Dongle (Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd) doesnt work on ubuntu 13.10" [Medium,Incomplete] | 12:22 |
| marga | The original bug already included all the info. A bunch of us said "We have the same issue", then we were asked to file new reports (what for?!). | 12:23 |
| marga | In the new report filed, it was asked "When did this start happening?" which was already answered in the original report. | 12:23 |
| marga | Then, someone else said, "I have this issue too", and they were asked to file yet another bug report. | 12:24 |
| marga | What's the point of all this duplicates? Spreading the information about one problem in separate bugs only makes tracking the bug harder. | 12:25 |
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| GunnarHj | Hi Laney! | 13:37 |
| czajkowski | Folks have you seen the Call for participation: main tracks and developer rooms at FOSDEM is now open https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2014-July/002010.html | 13:42 |
| czajkowski | just in case folks want to submit | 13:42 |
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| didrocks | \o/ all reshaping and reformating of udtc done, phew! | 15:36 |
| didrocks | with adding some more tests along the road :) | 15:36 |
| didrocks | czajkowski: I'm one of the organizer of the desktop room FYI, not sure still if we'll have an Unity talk this time | 15:39 |
| czajkowski | didrocks: ah you already got told you got the room ? | 15:40 |
| didrocks | czajkowski: not yet (it's in october), but the request is done. It would be surprising to not have a room for the desktop environments though ;) | 15:41 |
| didrocks | probably just one day, like last year | 15:41 |
| czajkowski | nods | 15:47 |
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| Laney | wee, webkit built on amd64/arm64/ppc64el | 16:02 |
| didrocks | at the first upload? | 16:02 |
| Laney | only one tiny porting patch for ppc64el over Debian now, they took the arm64 stuff | 16:02 |
| Laney | on porter machines | 16:02 |
| didrocks | ah ok ;) | 16:02 |
| Laney | but still, at the first try :P | 16:03 |
| didrocks | hehe | 16:03 |
| didrocks | ok, I give you this half achievement point :) | 16:03 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Re bug 1314402: You may want to replace the package in the NEW queue with the latest PPA version. Or I can change it afterwards if the package eventually makes it to the archive. Your call. :) | 16:16 |
| ubot5 | bug 1314402 in Ubuntu "Please upload skype-translation to the archive" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314402 | 16:16 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: what's different? | 16:16 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Please see the last comment on the bug report. | 16:16 |
| Laney | aw man | 16:16 |
| * didrocks waves good evening, enough for today! | 16:16 | |
| Laney | I have to move my hand aaaaaalllllll the way to the trackpad :P | 16:17 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: Okay, I see, I'll check it out soon | 16:17 |
| Laney | Don't think it's super important to supersede the existing one ASAP | 16:18 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Thanks! | 16:18 |
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