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rick_h__no one at CHC?00:22
* widox just got home00:49
widoxis it just you, rick_h__ ?00:49
rick_h__widox: well cmaloney just showed up00:50
rick_h__so now it's a party00:50
widoxfun00:55
jrwrenparty!01:07
jrwrenwow, late edition01:07
rick_h__heh yea01:08
cmaloneyWoo part part01:19
cmaloneyparry parry01:19
skellatcmaloney: Ping01:26
cmaloneyskellat: pong01:34
skellatHow goes it?01:35
cmaloneyGood, though I'm getting ready to go AFK for a bit.01:35
cmaloneybbiab. :)01:35
skellatNo problem01:35
cmaloneyback03:29
cmaloneyGood morning12:30
jrwrenparty pary?12:59
cmaloneyThankfully they ripped a hole in the wall for the area they're doing construction so we can hear it more clearly13:43
cmaloneySounds like the stomach of a giant robot13:43
cmaloney.np squeekyhoho14:49
bookiebotsqueekyhoho's current track - Adora Vivos by Woods of Ypres on Woods 5: Grey Skies & Electric Light14:49
brouschI'm supposed to take my son and myself for haircuts tonight while my wife is out. I sent her this http://imgur.com/wvVEROB15:18
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/V4jKv3 - imgur: the simple image sharer15:18
mrgoodcatanybody have an aeropress and/or french press?15:24
brouschI have a french press15:26
brouschI just got it 10 days ago15:26
mrgoodcatever used an aeropress?15:26
mrgoodcati'm trying to decide which to get15:26
brouschI have not15:27
mrgoodcatoh well15:27
mrgoodcatwill probably just go with a french press15:28
trevlarmrgoodcat: I have an aeropress15:28
trevlarI like it15:28
rick_h__moka pot ftw! :)15:29
rick_h__have a french press, the wife uses it but it's meh for coffee imo15:29
rick_h__I almost got an aeropress, but it seemed like I'd be stuck with custom filters and the like15:29
brouschI love the coffee from my french press15:29
brouschIt has more substance than filtered coffee, but no grounds get through15:31
rick_h__moka pot15:31
rick_h__much better than the french press15:31
mrgoodcatlol15:31
mrgoodcatknew rick_h__ would have a strong opinion on the subject15:32
rick_h__:)15:32
rick_h__well I'm aeropress curious15:32
mrgoodcatwhat don't you like about the press?15:32
mrgoodcatmost coffee lovers seem to love them15:33
rick_h__french press?15:34
rick_h__the taste of the coffee isn't as good15:34
brouschI don't see what difference a moka pot would have compared to french press15:34
jrwrenfrench press: its better than drip15:34
rick_h__right, it's better than drip15:34
rick_h__but < moka pot15:34
rick_h__and I don't know about aeropress15:34
mrgoodcatthe advantage of press over drip as I see it is a more even steep. Drip gets super bitter and over extracts some while under extracting the rest15:35
brouschThe filter is also a problem15:37
mrgoodcatpaper filter extracts the oils?15:37
mrgoodcatyou don't have to use a paper filter in a drip maker15:37
brouschmoka pot looks more annoying to set up and clean15:38
mrgoodcati'm trying to figure out what the advantage of moka pot is15:38
brouschIt gives you extra hipster points15:39
mrgoodcatseems to me a moka pot would brew at above-optimal temperatures15:41
mrgoodcate.g. bitterness15:41
widoxI <3 my french press15:42
widoxmaybe rick_h__ wasn't using a proper grind ;)15:42
rick_h__:P15:42
rick_h__grind level 1 baby15:43
widoxI have heard from many folks that the aeropress is great - I actually just got one, haven't used it yet though15:43
widoxbrews a bit stronger then other methods15:43
widoxits also super easy to clean15:44
widoxand, you can get metal filters instead of paper ones15:45
widoxthough, it comes with a few paper ones15:45
mrgoodcatwhere do detroit-area folks get their beans?15:46
mrgoodcatmy parents always sing the praises of TONX15:46
rick_h__every 2wk mail order peets15:46
widoxmrgoodcat: I started using Tonx recently. pretty good15:47
widoxotherwise, I like to buy eith Great Lakes or Germack beans15:47
mrgoodcati like the idea of tonx15:47
mrgoodcathassle free15:48
widoxyes. but you don't get a choice either15:48
mrgoodcatyea...15:48
mrgoodcat¯\_(ツ)_/¯15:48
widoxbut, the risk of some crap beans is low :)15:49
mrgoodcattime to go to lunch15:50
trevlarI like to get Great Lakes too16:07
trevlaravailable at westborn and other grocery stores if you can't make it to the shop16:08
cmaloneyI must be a complete luddite because I just get the Meijer beans. :)17:06
brouschcmaloney: You disgust me17:07
greg-gI get grocery store beans too17:07
cmaloneySplurged on Zingermans beans last time we were at Meijer17:07
cmaloneyThough I don't get the "fill your own bag" beans. They're pre-sealed.17:07
greg-gI don't feel like paying $15 for 12 ounces when I can get beans for $9.99/lb17:07
cmaloneyBut they're not bad.17:07
cmaloneyI tend to drink things dark roasted anyway so bitterness is not a huhge factor for me.17:07
jrwrencmaloney: the meijer organic beans aren't bad at all17:08
* greg-g is a light-medium roast kind of guy17:08
cmaloneyOw. My foot just hurt pretty hard.17:09
cmaloneyColonelPanic001: Do you receive my Dragon Go Server invites?17:20
ColonelPanic001hm. Did I install that on the new phone17:21
ColonelPanic001I may just be dumb, hang on17:22
ColonelPanic001I didn't before though, had to go to the site to accept them17:22
cmaloneyAh, OK17:22
brouschI want to learn Go17:25
ColonelPanic001play go17:26
cmaloneybrousch: Want book recommendations?17:26
cmaloneyAlso, play lots off go17:26
brouschI don't know any Gonads17:27
rick_h__greg-g: woot light/medium, more caffiene17:27
brouschI assume that's what you call yourselves17:27
ColonelPanic001it is now17:27
cmaloneywe prefer Weiquinads17:27
ColonelPanic001I don't.17:27
cmaloney;)17:27
greg-grick_h__: and taste, I like the taste better :)17:27
* ColonelPanic001 is a gonad17:27
rick_h__greg-g: +117:28
greg-grick_h__: as in, it has taste other than "burnt" ;)17:28
rick_h__greg-g: I'm a picky meduium roastser guy. Peets domnico ftw17:28
rick_h__greg-g: exactly!17:28
greg-g:)17:28
ColonelPanic001I have some maxwell house at home17:28
ColonelPanic001nothing but the best decaf for me17:28
greg-ggood to the last drop17:28
brouschFrench Roast. The burn covers the taste of sadness from decaf17:29
cmaloneyColonelPanic001: please report to the town center where we can burn the heretic17:29
rick_h__greg-g: http://www.peets.com/coffee/by-roast/coffee-shop-by-category-medium-roast/cafe-domingo-wholebean-each.html is what I get every 2wk ftw17:29
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/eN3s85 - Café Domingo® | Peet's Coffee & Tea17:29
rick_h__domingo not domnico :/17:29
ColonelPanic001or just send me coffee. I don't drink it enough to justify bothering with good stuff like I do with tea17:29
ColonelPanic001too much caffeine17:29
cmaloneyColonelPanic001: please report to the town center where we can draw, quarter, and then burn the heretic17:29
rick_h__greg-g: <3 the camping pics17:30
greg-grick_h__: :) it was fun17:32
mrgoodcatsudo reboot17:32
greg-gfirst time with a camp stove since boy scouts17:32
mrgoodcatgah ignore that17:32
rick_h__lol17:32
ColonelPanic001[sudo] password for mrgoodcat:17:32
* ColonelPanic001 crosses fingers17:32
rick_h__greg-g: looked awesome, water, nice spot there.17:32
rick_h__greg-g: the little man looked like he was having a blast17:33
greg-gyeah, a secret spot :)17:33
greg-ghe did, he LOVES the woods17:33
greg-gstill scared of water a bit, but working on that17:33
rick_h__glad to see you're not letting the beard go to waste lol17:33
greg-ghaha, nope17:33
rick_h__yea, we started swim classes at 6mo because we wanted to try to bypass the water fear17:33
greg-gunfortunately, I'm also growing a belly to go with it, need to work on that17:33
rick_h__camping is good for that :) lots of steps17:33
greg-g:)17:34
rick_h__though we went to a county campground and there was an ice cream truck that came by. First time the boy got to do that17:35
rick_h__he came running back from his mom waving it in his hand "daddy daddy look what I got!!!"17:35
mrgoodcatno ice cream trucks in my neighborhood at home...17:35
greg-grick_h__: wow17:36
mrgoodcatneighborhood assoc. decided not to allow them17:36
greg-gyeah, no ice cream trucks at this campsite17:36
rick_h__yea, the county part is much more of a camper/trailer thing. Lots of tent sites/etc but has a lot of trails, boat rentals, a kids activity schedule every weekend17:36
rick_h__arts and hay rides/etc17:36
rick_h__so it's a bit bigger/etc than your normal woods campsite17:36
greg-git's 12 miles up a road up the mountainside along a creek, dead ends at a trailhead. A mile before the trailhead is a campground with ~6ish sites. No water spigot, just vault toliets and two bear proof trash cans.17:37
rick_h__but was funny, "we're camping, why is there an ice cream truck going by?"17:37
jrwreni wish we had ice cream trucks here.  if we did, I'd not be able to hear it over my own music.17:37
rick_h__so you hiked in the tent/stove/etc?17:37
rick_h__nice17:37
greg-gso, the only people who stay at this site either A) are just sleeping one night before they start out on a backpacking trip or B) have been told about it by friends as 'that place that is perfect, no resrevations ever, even foruth of july, and did I say it's pefect?"17:38
greg-goh, no, only hiked the stuff 50ft-ish, the site is one mile before the trailhead, along the road17:38
rick_h__oh before it17:38
greg-gyeah17:38
cmaloneyY'know, I'm starting to sour on these Leopold keyboards.17:39
rick_h__did I tell you we switched up our plans out there17:39
cmaloneyHaving an issue with the f key17:39
rick_h__greg-g: we're going to do yosemite vs wine country17:40
rick_h__cmaloney: time to go filco, keyboard level += 117:40
cmaloneyYeah, I'm starting to think so as well17:40
cmaloneyThough the CODE keyboard piqued my interest.17:40
greg-grick_h__: whoa! nice!17:41
cmaloneyWe'll see. If this thing starts misbehaving again then I'll be making an order17:41
greg-grick_h__: where are you staying? in the park or a hotel outside?17:41
mrgoodcatbackpacking++17:41
rick_h__greg-g: cabin outside17:41
mrgoodcatgreg-g: what trail?17:41
cmaloneythough obviously not from this keyboard should the F key go wonky. :)17:41
greg-gcool!17:41
rick_h__mrgoodcat: no, we're going to be in SFO with family and have luggage/etc17:41
greg-gmrgoodcat: California Trinity-Shasta National Forest17:41
rick_h__so just day hikes, but I'll be bringing the tripid and camer gear17:41
mrgoodcatah. thats a bit far for me17:42
greg-gI'm not giving direct directions, I need to keep this place semi-secret :)17:42
rick_h__mrgoodcat: hoists lakes and the manistee river trail/northern country trail loop are nice around here17:42
rick_h__lol17:42
mrgoodcati like killarney provincial park in canada17:42
rick_h__though we've not backpacked since the boy was born17:42
mrgoodcati've done some of the app. trail too though and it was amazing17:43
rick_h__greg-g: but yea, doing a really good family friendly wine country thing was getting to be too pita, so big parks it is then!17:43
rick_h__greg-g: not like we're out that way that often to see it anyway17:43
greg-gyeah, backpacking turned to car camping on Dec 11, 2012 :)17:43
rick_h__lol17:43
greg-gwe tried one night of backpacking with a 6 month old, it worked, but yeah, only one night :)17:44
greg-gthe next day we went a bought a coleman tent and air mattress :)17:44
mrgoodcatwow that sounds painful17:44
greg-git wasn't too bad, he was mostly in "happy to be carried in a carrier" mode17:44
greg-gbut, making camp/dinner/setup stuff was tough17:45
rick_h__hah, yea we did tent camping but he'd get up at 4:30am most trips17:45
rick_h__and moved over to trailer "camping"17:45
greg-g:)17:45
rick_h__greg-g: see my eagles nest pics from our trip the 4th?17:46
greg-gno!17:46
greg-gon g+?17:46
rick_h__https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14622411343/17:46
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/iwlo54 - P1030553.jpg | Flickr - Photo Sharing!17:46
rick_h__yea, G+ and I thought on twitter, but maybe not17:46
cmaloneyhttp://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=keyed_up_labs,tenkeyless&pid=es87u_cc_bbb_al17:46
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/zlZLK7 - KUL ES-87 Tenkeyless Keyboard (Cherry MX Clear) - elitekeyboards.com - Products17:46
cmaloneyThat looks interesting17:47
rick_h__greg-g: there's one chick in the nest and another up to the left on a branch17:47
greg-gcool17:47
rick_h__yea, was hoping to get mom or dad around but no luck17:47
rick_h__550mm range to get that shot, needed a boat to get closer heh17:48
mrgoodcatrick_h__: what camera?17:48
rick_h__mrgoodcat: my gx717:48
rick_h__think it has camera/lens info if you scroll down17:49
mrgoodcatah yes it does17:49
rick_h__ran into deer several times as well https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14579111846/17:49
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/cG2vSx - P1030476.jpg | Flickr - Photo Sharing!17:49
rick_h__https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14579079506/17:49
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/W0EpMH - P1030448.jpg | Flickr - Photo Sharing!17:49
rick_h__https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14414905070/in/photostream/17:50
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/Qe2SEp - P1030193.jpg | Flickr - Photo Sharing!17:50
greg-gkids on summer vaction in coffee shop drinking their latte's through a straw18:06
rick_h__lol18:06
mrgoodcatheh18:06
cmaloneyAnd to think we had to beg our parents for coffee-milk18:14
cmaloneyDidn't even know how to order it18:15
greg-gspoiled kids too, you should see their table, it's disgusting18:15
greg-ghalf-finished pastries, crumbs everywhere18:15
mrgoodcatmy dog would love them18:15
cmaloneyHate that18:17
rick_h__greg-g: wife sent this to me the other day http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052970204740904577196931457473816?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052970204740904577196931457473816.html18:17
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/4aFso0 - Suspicious Activity Detected | Distil18:17
rick_h__bah18:17
cmaloney;)18:17
rick_h__wsj hates me18:17
cmaloneyAlso: FUck Microsoft Activation18:17
rick_h__lol18:18
rick_h__greg-g: well shared with you on G+ and hopefully loads18:18
greg-gyeah, that loaded fine18:18
cmaloneyHad to do a repair on MS Office because it couldn't activate properly.18:18
greg-gI remember there being a book recently about that, an american mom who moved to france and how she changed her parenting etc18:19
cmaloneyInstalled Libreoffice in the interim because it doesn't care how you use it, just how you distribute it.18:19
rick_h__greg-g: yea, not usually up to the bait of that stuff18:19
cmaloneyIf it's in the WSJ it's likely because someone is promoting said book.18:19
greg-gah, yeah, rick_h__, that's an excerpt/adaptation of the book I was thining of18:19
cmaloney++18:19
rick_h__greg-g: ah interesting18:19
greg-gwait, no18:19
rick_h__cmaloney: gets the medal!18:19
greg-gno, unwait, yes18:20
greg-git said "to be published on tuesday" so i was confused, until i saw the publication date of the article18:20
rick_h__anyway, I think we as parents sometimes do like to compare against others and yet know/feel like we shouldn't18:20
cmaloneySeriously, the only time a news-source prints a "blinding flash of the obvious" it's because someone is promoting something18:20
cmaloneyWonder at what point all of the news will be sponsored by something18:21
cmaloney"12 car-pileup in Downtown Happytown reported. In his latest book 'how to keep from crashing' Dr. Wanker described the common causes of 12 car pileups"18:22
cmaloney"1) Losing focus on the focus of driving"18:22
cmaloney"2) Rapture. Though this isn't as common as #1."18:23
greg-gI pray ever day for the rapture18:24
greg-gnot for the same reasons others do18:24
cmaloney"Calgon, take them away"18:25
greg-g:)18:25
jrwrenrapture palooza was a terrible movie.18:34
rick_h__lol18:34
jrwrenlooks like she did a 2013 followup: Bébé day by day : 100 keys to French parenting18:47
gamerchick02itunes is a pain in the arse. bleh22:22

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