[00:22] <rick_h__> no one at CHC?
[00:49]  * widox just got home
[00:49] <widox> is it just you, rick_h__ ?
[00:50] <rick_h__> widox: well cmaloney just showed up
[00:50] <rick_h__> so now it's a party
[00:55] <widox> fun
[01:07] <jrwren> party!
[01:07] <jrwren> wow, late edition
[01:08] <rick_h__> heh yea
[01:19] <cmaloney> Woo part part
[01:19] <cmaloney> parry parry
[01:26] <skellat> cmaloney: Ping
[01:34] <cmaloney> skellat: pong
[01:35] <skellat> How goes it?
[01:35] <cmaloney> Good, though I'm getting ready to go AFK for a bit.
[01:35] <cmaloney> bbiab. :)
[01:35] <skellat> No problem
[03:29] <cmaloney> back
[12:30] <cmaloney> Good morning
[12:59] <jrwren> party pary?
[13:43] <cmaloney> Thankfully they ripped a hole in the wall for the area they're doing construction so we can hear it more clearly
[13:43] <cmaloney> Sounds like the stomach of a giant robot
[14:49] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[14:49] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Adora Vivos by Woods of Ypres on Woods 5: Grey Skies & Electric Light
[15:18] <brousch> I'm supposed to take my son and myself for haircuts tonight while my wife is out. I sent her this http://imgur.com/wvVEROB
[15:18] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/V4jKv3 - imgur: the simple image sharer
[15:24] <mrgoodcat> anybody have an aeropress and/or french press?
[15:26] <brousch> I have a french press
[15:26] <brousch> I just got it 10 days ago
[15:26] <mrgoodcat> ever used an aeropress?
[15:26] <mrgoodcat> i'm trying to decide which to get
[15:27] <brousch> I have not
[15:27] <mrgoodcat> oh well
[15:28] <mrgoodcat> will probably just go with a french press
[15:28] <trevlar> mrgoodcat: I have an aeropress
[15:28] <trevlar> I like it
[15:29] <rick_h__> moka pot ftw! :)
[15:29] <rick_h__> have a french press, the wife uses it but it's meh for coffee imo
[15:29] <rick_h__> I almost got an aeropress, but it seemed like I'd be stuck with custom filters and the like
[15:29] <brousch> I love the coffee from my french press
[15:31] <brousch> It has more substance than filtered coffee, but no grounds get through
[15:31] <rick_h__> moka pot
[15:31] <rick_h__> much better than the french press
[15:31] <mrgoodcat> lol
[15:32] <mrgoodcat> knew rick_h__ would have a strong opinion on the subject
[15:32] <rick_h__> :)
[15:32] <rick_h__> well I'm aeropress curious
[15:32] <mrgoodcat> what don't you like about the press?
[15:33] <mrgoodcat> most coffee lovers seem to love them
[15:34] <rick_h__> french press?
[15:34] <rick_h__> the taste of the coffee isn't as good
[15:34] <brousch> I don't see what difference a moka pot would have compared to french press
[15:34] <jrwren> french press: its better than drip
[15:34] <rick_h__> right, it's better than drip
[15:34] <rick_h__> but < moka pot
[15:34] <rick_h__> and I don't know about aeropress
[15:35] <mrgoodcat> the advantage of press over drip as I see it is a more even steep. Drip gets super bitter and over extracts some while under extracting the rest
[15:37] <brousch> The filter is also a problem
[15:37] <mrgoodcat> paper filter extracts the oils?
[15:37] <mrgoodcat> you don't have to use a paper filter in a drip maker
[15:38] <brousch> moka pot looks more annoying to set up and clean
[15:38] <mrgoodcat> i'm trying to figure out what the advantage of moka pot is
[15:39] <brousch> It gives you extra hipster points
[15:41] <mrgoodcat> seems to me a moka pot would brew at above-optimal temperatures
[15:41] <mrgoodcat> e.g. bitterness
[15:42] <widox> I <3 my french press
[15:42] <widox> maybe rick_h__ wasn't using a proper grind ;)
[15:42] <rick_h__> :P
[15:43] <rick_h__> grind level 1 baby
[15:43] <widox> I have heard from many folks that the aeropress is great - I actually just got one, haven't used it yet though
[15:43] <widox> brews a bit stronger then other methods
[15:44] <widox> its also super easy to clean
[15:45] <widox> and, you can get metal filters instead of paper ones
[15:45] <widox> though, it comes with a few paper ones
[15:46] <mrgoodcat> where do detroit-area folks get their beans?
[15:46] <mrgoodcat> my parents always sing the praises of TONX
[15:46] <rick_h__> every 2wk mail order peets
[15:47] <widox> mrgoodcat: I started using Tonx recently. pretty good
[15:47] <widox> otherwise, I like to buy eith Great Lakes or Germack beans
[15:47] <mrgoodcat> i like the idea of tonx
[15:48] <mrgoodcat> hassle free
[15:48] <widox> yes. but you don't get a choice either
[15:48] <mrgoodcat> yea...
[15:48] <mrgoodcat> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[15:49] <widox> but, the risk of some crap beans is low :)
[15:50] <mrgoodcat> time to go to lunch
[16:07] <trevlar> I like to get Great Lakes too
[16:08] <trevlar> available at westborn and other grocery stores if you can't make it to the shop
[17:06] <cmaloney> I must be a complete luddite because I just get the Meijer beans. :)
[17:07] <brousch> cmaloney: You disgust me
[17:07] <greg-g> I get grocery store beans too
[17:07] <cmaloney> Splurged on Zingermans beans last time we were at Meijer
[17:07] <cmaloney> Though I don't get the "fill your own bag" beans. They're pre-sealed.
[17:07] <greg-g> I don't feel like paying $15 for 12 ounces when I can get beans for $9.99/lb
[17:07] <cmaloney> But they're not bad.
[17:07] <cmaloney> I tend to drink things dark roasted anyway so bitterness is not a huhge factor for me.
[17:08] <jrwren> cmaloney: the meijer organic beans aren't bad at all
[17:08]  * greg-g is a light-medium roast kind of guy
[17:09] <cmaloney> Ow. My foot just hurt pretty hard.
[17:20] <cmaloney> ColonelPanic001: Do you receive my Dragon Go Server invites?
[17:21] <ColonelPanic001> hm. Did I install that on the new phone
[17:22] <ColonelPanic001> I may just be dumb, hang on
[17:22] <ColonelPanic001> I didn't before though, had to go to the site to accept them
[17:22] <cmaloney> Ah, OK
[17:25] <brousch> I want to learn Go
[17:26] <ColonelPanic001> play go
[17:26] <cmaloney> brousch: Want book recommendations?
[17:26] <cmaloney> Also, play lots off go
[17:27] <brousch> I don't know any Gonads
[17:27] <rick_h__> greg-g: woot light/medium, more caffiene
[17:27] <brousch> I assume that's what you call yourselves
[17:27] <ColonelPanic001> it is now
[17:27] <cmaloney> we prefer Weiquinads
[17:27] <ColonelPanic001> I don't.
[17:27] <cmaloney> ;)
[17:27] <greg-g> rick_h__: and taste, I like the taste better :)
[17:27]  * ColonelPanic001 is a gonad
[17:28] <rick_h__> greg-g: +1
[17:28] <greg-g> rick_h__: as in, it has taste other than "burnt" ;)
[17:28] <rick_h__> greg-g: I'm a picky meduium roastser guy. Peets domnico ftw
[17:28] <rick_h__> greg-g: exactly!
[17:28] <greg-g> :)
[17:28] <ColonelPanic001> I have some maxwell house at home
[17:28] <ColonelPanic001> nothing but the best decaf for me
[17:28] <greg-g> good to the last drop
[17:29] <brousch> French Roast. The burn covers the taste of sadness from decaf
[17:29] <cmaloney> ColonelPanic001: please report to the town center where we can burn the heretic
[17:29] <rick_h__> greg-g: http://www.peets.com/coffee/by-roast/coffee-shop-by-category-medium-roast/cafe-domingo-wholebean-each.html is what I get every 2wk ftw
[17:29] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/eN3s85 - Café Domingo® | Peet's Coffee & Tea
[17:29] <rick_h__> domingo not domnico :/
[17:29] <ColonelPanic001> or just send me coffee. I don't drink it enough to justify bothering with good stuff like I do with tea
[17:29] <ColonelPanic001> too much caffeine
[17:29] <cmaloney> ColonelPanic001: please report to the town center where we can draw, quarter, and then burn the heretic
[17:30] <rick_h__> greg-g: <3 the camping pics
[17:32] <greg-g> rick_h__: :) it was fun
[17:32] <mrgoodcat> sudo reboot
[17:32] <greg-g> first time with a camp stove since boy scouts
[17:32] <mrgoodcat> gah ignore that
[17:32] <rick_h__> lol
[17:32] <ColonelPanic001> [sudo] password for mrgoodcat:
[17:32]  * ColonelPanic001 crosses fingers
[17:32] <rick_h__> greg-g: looked awesome, water, nice spot there.
[17:33] <rick_h__> greg-g: the little man looked like he was having a blast
[17:33] <greg-g> yeah, a secret spot :)
[17:33] <greg-g> he did, he LOVES the woods
[17:33] <greg-g> still scared of water a bit, but working on that
[17:33] <rick_h__> glad to see you're not letting the beard go to waste lol
[17:33] <greg-g> haha, nope
[17:33] <rick_h__> yea, we started swim classes at 6mo because we wanted to try to bypass the water fear
[17:33] <greg-g> unfortunately, I'm also growing a belly to go with it, need to work on that
[17:33] <rick_h__> camping is good for that :) lots of steps
[17:34] <greg-g> :)
[17:35] <rick_h__> though we went to a county campground and there was an ice cream truck that came by. First time the boy got to do that
[17:35] <rick_h__> he came running back from his mom waving it in his hand "daddy daddy look what I got!!!"
[17:35] <mrgoodcat> no ice cream trucks in my neighborhood at home...
[17:36] <greg-g> rick_h__: wow
[17:36] <mrgoodcat> neighborhood assoc. decided not to allow them
[17:36] <greg-g> yeah, no ice cream trucks at this campsite
[17:36] <rick_h__> yea, the county part is much more of a camper/trailer thing. Lots of tent sites/etc but has a lot of trails, boat rentals, a kids activity schedule every weekend
[17:36] <rick_h__> arts and hay rides/etc
[17:36] <rick_h__> so it's a bit bigger/etc than your normal woods campsite
[17:37] <greg-g> it's 12 miles up a road up the mountainside along a creek, dead ends at a trailhead. A mile before the trailhead is a campground with ~6ish sites. No water spigot, just vault toliets and two bear proof trash cans.
[17:37] <rick_h__> but was funny, "we're camping, why is there an ice cream truck going by?"
[17:37] <jrwren> i wish we had ice cream trucks here.  if we did, I'd not be able to hear it over my own music.
[17:37] <rick_h__> so you hiked in the tent/stove/etc?
[17:37] <rick_h__> nice
[17:38] <greg-g> so, the only people who stay at this site either A) are just sleeping one night before they start out on a backpacking trip or B) have been told about it by friends as 'that place that is perfect, no resrevations ever, even foruth of july, and did I say it's pefect?"
[17:38] <greg-g> oh, no, only hiked the stuff 50ft-ish, the site is one mile before the trailhead, along the road
[17:38] <rick_h__> oh before it
[17:38] <greg-g> yeah
[17:39] <cmaloney> Y'know, I'm starting to sour on these Leopold keyboards.
[17:39] <rick_h__> did I tell you we switched up our plans out there
[17:39] <cmaloney> Having an issue with the f key
[17:40] <rick_h__> greg-g: we're going to do yosemite vs wine country
[17:40] <rick_h__> cmaloney: time to go filco, keyboard level += 1
[17:40] <cmaloney> Yeah, I'm starting to think so as well
[17:40] <cmaloney> Though the CODE keyboard piqued my interest.
[17:41] <greg-g> rick_h__: whoa! nice!
[17:41] <cmaloney> We'll see. If this thing starts misbehaving again then I'll be making an order
[17:41] <greg-g> rick_h__: where are you staying? in the park or a hotel outside?
[17:41] <mrgoodcat> backpacking++
[17:41] <rick_h__> greg-g: cabin outside
[17:41] <mrgoodcat> greg-g: what trail?
[17:41] <cmaloney> though obviously not from this keyboard should the F key go wonky. :)
[17:41] <greg-g> cool!
[17:41] <rick_h__> mrgoodcat: no, we're going to be in SFO with family and have luggage/etc
[17:41] <greg-g> mrgoodcat: California Trinity-Shasta National Forest
[17:41] <rick_h__> so just day hikes, but I'll be bringing the tripid and camer gear
[17:42] <mrgoodcat> ah. thats a bit far for me
[17:42] <greg-g> I'm not giving direct directions, I need to keep this place semi-secret :)
[17:42] <rick_h__> mrgoodcat: hoists lakes and the manistee river trail/northern country trail loop are nice around here
[17:42] <rick_h__> lol
[17:42] <mrgoodcat> i like killarney provincial park in canada
[17:42] <rick_h__> though we've not backpacked since the boy was born
[17:43] <mrgoodcat> i've done some of the app. trail too though and it was amazing
[17:43] <rick_h__> greg-g: but yea, doing a really good family friendly wine country thing was getting to be too pita, so big parks it is then!
[17:43] <rick_h__> greg-g: not like we're out that way that often to see it anyway
[17:43] <greg-g> yeah, backpacking turned to car camping on Dec 11, 2012 :)
[17:43] <rick_h__> lol
[17:44] <greg-g> we tried one night of backpacking with a 6 month old, it worked, but yeah, only one night :)
[17:44] <greg-g> the next day we went a bought a coleman tent and air mattress :)
[17:44] <mrgoodcat> wow that sounds painful
[17:44] <greg-g> it wasn't too bad, he was mostly in "happy to be carried in a carrier" mode
[17:45] <greg-g> but, making camp/dinner/setup stuff was tough
[17:45] <rick_h__> hah, yea we did tent camping but he'd get up at 4:30am most trips
[17:45] <rick_h__> and moved over to trailer "camping"
[17:45] <greg-g> :)
[17:46] <rick_h__> greg-g: see my eagles nest pics from our trip the 4th?
[17:46] <greg-g> no!
[17:46] <greg-g> on g+?
[17:46] <rick_h__> https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14622411343/
[17:46] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/iwlo54 - P1030553.jpg | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
[17:46] <rick_h__> yea, G+ and I thought on twitter, but maybe not
[17:46] <cmaloney> http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=keyed_up_labs,tenkeyless&pid=es87u_cc_bbb_al
[17:46] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/zlZLK7 - KUL ES-87 Tenkeyless Keyboard (Cherry MX Clear) - elitekeyboards.com - Products
[17:47] <cmaloney> That looks interesting
[17:47] <rick_h__> greg-g: there's one chick in the nest and another up to the left on a branch
[17:47] <greg-g> cool
[17:47] <rick_h__> yea, was hoping to get mom or dad around but no luck
[17:48] <rick_h__> 550mm range to get that shot, needed a boat to get closer heh
[17:48] <mrgoodcat> rick_h__: what camera?
[17:48] <rick_h__> mrgoodcat: my gx7
[17:49] <rick_h__> think it has camera/lens info if you scroll down
[17:49] <mrgoodcat> ah yes it does
[17:49] <rick_h__> ran into deer several times as well https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14579111846/
[17:49] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/cG2vSx - P1030476.jpg | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
[17:49] <rick_h__> https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14579079506/
[17:49] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/W0EpMH - P1030448.jpg | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
[17:50] <rick_h__> https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14414905070/in/photostream/
[17:50] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/Qe2SEp - P1030193.jpg | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
[18:06] <greg-g> kids on summer vaction in coffee shop drinking their latte's through a straw
[18:06] <rick_h__> lol
[18:06] <mrgoodcat> heh
[18:14] <cmaloney> And to think we had to beg our parents for coffee-milk
[18:15] <cmaloney> Didn't even know how to order it
[18:15] <greg-g> spoiled kids too, you should see their table, it's disgusting
[18:15] <greg-g> half-finished pastries, crumbs everywhere
[18:15] <mrgoodcat> my dog would love them
[18:17] <cmaloney> Hate that
[18:17] <rick_h__> greg-g: wife sent this to me the other day http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052970204740904577196931457473816?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052970204740904577196931457473816.html
[18:17] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/4aFso0 - Suspicious Activity Detected | Distil
[18:17] <rick_h__> bah
[18:17] <cmaloney> ;)
[18:17] <rick_h__> wsj hates me
[18:17] <cmaloney> Also: FUck Microsoft Activation
[18:18] <rick_h__> lol
[18:18] <rick_h__> greg-g: well shared with you on G+ and hopefully loads
[18:18] <greg-g> yeah, that loaded fine
[18:18] <cmaloney> Had to do a repair on MS Office because it couldn't activate properly.
[18:19] <greg-g> I remember there being a book recently about that, an american mom who moved to france and how she changed her parenting etc
[18:19] <cmaloney> Installed Libreoffice in the interim because it doesn't care how you use it, just how you distribute it.
[18:19] <rick_h__> greg-g: yea, not usually up to the bait of that stuff
[18:19] <cmaloney> If it's in the WSJ it's likely because someone is promoting said book.
[18:19] <greg-g> ah, yeah, rick_h__, that's an excerpt/adaptation of the book I was thining of
[18:19] <cmaloney> ++
[18:19] <rick_h__> greg-g: ah interesting
[18:19] <greg-g> wait, no
[18:19] <rick_h__> cmaloney: gets the medal!
[18:20] <greg-g> no, unwait, yes
[18:20] <greg-g> it said "to be published on tuesday" so i was confused, until i saw the publication date of the article
[18:20] <rick_h__> anyway, I think we as parents sometimes do like to compare against others and yet know/feel like we shouldn't
[18:20] <cmaloney> Seriously, the only time a news-source prints a "blinding flash of the obvious" it's because someone is promoting something
[18:21] <cmaloney> Wonder at what point all of the news will be sponsored by something
[18:22] <cmaloney> "12 car-pileup in Downtown Happytown reported. In his latest book 'how to keep from crashing' Dr. Wanker described the common causes of 12 car pileups"
[18:22] <cmaloney> "1) Losing focus on the focus of driving"
[18:23] <cmaloney> "2) Rapture. Though this isn't as common as #1."
[18:24] <greg-g> I pray ever day for the rapture
[18:24] <greg-g> not for the same reasons others do
[18:25] <cmaloney> "Calgon, take them away"
[18:25] <greg-g> :)
[18:34] <jrwren> rapture palooza was a terrible movie.
[18:34] <rick_h__> lol
[18:47] <jrwren> looks like she did a 2013 followup: Bébé day by day : 100 keys to French parenting
[22:22] <gamerchick02> itunes is a pain in the arse. bleh