[00:22] no one at CHC? [00:49] * widox just got home [00:49] is it just you, rick_h__ ? [00:50] widox: well cmaloney just showed up [00:50] so now it's a party [00:55] fun [01:07] party! [01:07] wow, late edition [01:08] heh yea [01:19] Woo part part [01:19] parry parry [01:26] cmaloney: Ping [01:34] skellat: pong [01:35] How goes it? [01:35] Good, though I'm getting ready to go AFK for a bit. [01:35] bbiab. :) [01:35] No problem [03:29] back [12:30] Good morning [12:59] party pary? [13:43] Thankfully they ripped a hole in the wall for the area they're doing construction so we can hear it more clearly [13:43] Sounds like the stomach of a giant robot [14:49] .np squeekyhoho [14:49] squeekyhoho's current track - Adora Vivos by Woods of Ypres on Woods 5: Grey Skies & Electric Light [15:18] I'm supposed to take my son and myself for haircuts tonight while my wife is out. I sent her this http://imgur.com/wvVEROB [15:18] http://goo.gl/V4jKv3 - imgur: the simple image sharer [15:24] anybody have an aeropress and/or french press? [15:26] I have a french press [15:26] I just got it 10 days ago [15:26] ever used an aeropress? [15:26] i'm trying to decide which to get [15:27] I have not [15:27] oh well [15:28] will probably just go with a french press [15:28] mrgoodcat: I have an aeropress [15:28] I like it [15:29] moka pot ftw! :) [15:29] have a french press, the wife uses it but it's meh for coffee imo [15:29] I almost got an aeropress, but it seemed like I'd be stuck with custom filters and the like [15:29] I love the coffee from my french press [15:31] It has more substance than filtered coffee, but no grounds get through [15:31] moka pot [15:31] much better than the french press [15:31] lol [15:32] knew rick_h__ would have a strong opinion on the subject [15:32] :) [15:32] well I'm aeropress curious [15:32] what don't you like about the press? [15:33] most coffee lovers seem to love them [15:34] french press? [15:34] the taste of the coffee isn't as good [15:34] I don't see what difference a moka pot would have compared to french press [15:34] french press: its better than drip [15:34] right, it's better than drip [15:34] but < moka pot [15:34] and I don't know about aeropress [15:35] the advantage of press over drip as I see it is a more even steep. Drip gets super bitter and over extracts some while under extracting the rest [15:37] The filter is also a problem [15:37] paper filter extracts the oils? [15:37] you don't have to use a paper filter in a drip maker [15:38] moka pot looks more annoying to set up and clean [15:38] i'm trying to figure out what the advantage of moka pot is [15:39] It gives you extra hipster points [15:41] seems to me a moka pot would brew at above-optimal temperatures [15:41] e.g. bitterness [15:42] I <3 my french press [15:42] maybe rick_h__ wasn't using a proper grind ;) [15:42] :P [15:43] grind level 1 baby [15:43] I have heard from many folks that the aeropress is great - I actually just got one, haven't used it yet though [15:43] brews a bit stronger then other methods [15:44] its also super easy to clean [15:45] and, you can get metal filters instead of paper ones [15:45] though, it comes with a few paper ones [15:46] where do detroit-area folks get their beans? [15:46] my parents always sing the praises of TONX [15:46] every 2wk mail order peets [15:47] mrgoodcat: I started using Tonx recently. pretty good [15:47] otherwise, I like to buy eith Great Lakes or Germack beans [15:47] i like the idea of tonx [15:48] hassle free [15:48] yes. but you don't get a choice either [15:48] yea... [15:48] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [15:49] but, the risk of some crap beans is low :) [15:50] time to go to lunch [16:07] I like to get Great Lakes too [16:08] available at westborn and other grocery stores if you can't make it to the shop [17:06] I must be a complete luddite because I just get the Meijer beans. :) [17:07] cmaloney: You disgust me [17:07] I get grocery store beans too [17:07] Splurged on Zingermans beans last time we were at Meijer [17:07] Though I don't get the "fill your own bag" beans. They're pre-sealed. [17:07] I don't feel like paying $15 for 12 ounces when I can get beans for $9.99/lb [17:07] But they're not bad. [17:07] I tend to drink things dark roasted anyway so bitterness is not a huhge factor for me. [17:08] cmaloney: the meijer organic beans aren't bad at all [17:08] * greg-g is a light-medium roast kind of guy [17:09] Ow. My foot just hurt pretty hard. [17:20] ColonelPanic001: Do you receive my Dragon Go Server invites? [17:21] hm. Did I install that on the new phone [17:22] I may just be dumb, hang on [17:22] I didn't before though, had to go to the site to accept them [17:22] Ah, OK [17:25] I want to learn Go [17:26] play go [17:26] brousch: Want book recommendations? [17:26] Also, play lots off go [17:27] I don't know any Gonads [17:27] greg-g: woot light/medium, more caffiene [17:27] I assume that's what you call yourselves [17:27] it is now [17:27] we prefer Weiquinads [17:27] I don't. [17:27] ;) [17:27] rick_h__: and taste, I like the taste better :) [17:27] * ColonelPanic001 is a gonad [17:28] greg-g: +1 [17:28] rick_h__: as in, it has taste other than "burnt" ;) [17:28] greg-g: I'm a picky meduium roastser guy. Peets domnico ftw [17:28] greg-g: exactly! [17:28] :) [17:28] I have some maxwell house at home [17:28] nothing but the best decaf for me [17:28] good to the last drop [17:29] French Roast. The burn covers the taste of sadness from decaf [17:29] ColonelPanic001: please report to the town center where we can burn the heretic [17:29] greg-g: http://www.peets.com/coffee/by-roast/coffee-shop-by-category-medium-roast/cafe-domingo-wholebean-each.html is what I get every 2wk ftw [17:29] http://goo.gl/eN3s85 - Café Domingo® | Peet's Coffee & Tea [17:29] domingo not domnico :/ [17:29] or just send me coffee. I don't drink it enough to justify bothering with good stuff like I do with tea [17:29] too much caffeine [17:29] ColonelPanic001: please report to the town center where we can draw, quarter, and then burn the heretic [17:30] greg-g: <3 the camping pics [17:32] rick_h__: :) it was fun [17:32] sudo reboot [17:32] first time with a camp stove since boy scouts [17:32] gah ignore that [17:32] lol [17:32] [sudo] password for mrgoodcat: [17:32] * ColonelPanic001 crosses fingers [17:32] greg-g: looked awesome, water, nice spot there. [17:33] greg-g: the little man looked like he was having a blast [17:33] yeah, a secret spot :) [17:33] he did, he LOVES the woods [17:33] still scared of water a bit, but working on that [17:33] glad to see you're not letting the beard go to waste lol [17:33] haha, nope [17:33] yea, we started swim classes at 6mo because we wanted to try to bypass the water fear [17:33] unfortunately, I'm also growing a belly to go with it, need to work on that [17:33] camping is good for that :) lots of steps [17:34] :) [17:35] though we went to a county campground and there was an ice cream truck that came by. First time the boy got to do that [17:35] he came running back from his mom waving it in his hand "daddy daddy look what I got!!!" [17:35] no ice cream trucks in my neighborhood at home... [17:36] rick_h__: wow [17:36] neighborhood assoc. decided not to allow them [17:36] yeah, no ice cream trucks at this campsite [17:36] yea, the county part is much more of a camper/trailer thing. Lots of tent sites/etc but has a lot of trails, boat rentals, a kids activity schedule every weekend [17:36] arts and hay rides/etc [17:36] so it's a bit bigger/etc than your normal woods campsite [17:37] it's 12 miles up a road up the mountainside along a creek, dead ends at a trailhead. A mile before the trailhead is a campground with ~6ish sites. No water spigot, just vault toliets and two bear proof trash cans. [17:37] but was funny, "we're camping, why is there an ice cream truck going by?" [17:37] i wish we had ice cream trucks here. if we did, I'd not be able to hear it over my own music. [17:37] so you hiked in the tent/stove/etc? [17:37] nice [17:38] so, the only people who stay at this site either A) are just sleeping one night before they start out on a backpacking trip or B) have been told about it by friends as 'that place that is perfect, no resrevations ever, even foruth of july, and did I say it's pefect?" [17:38] oh, no, only hiked the stuff 50ft-ish, the site is one mile before the trailhead, along the road [17:38] oh before it [17:38] yeah [17:39] Y'know, I'm starting to sour on these Leopold keyboards. [17:39] did I tell you we switched up our plans out there [17:39] Having an issue with the f key [17:40] greg-g: we're going to do yosemite vs wine country [17:40] cmaloney: time to go filco, keyboard level += 1 [17:40] Yeah, I'm starting to think so as well [17:40] Though the CODE keyboard piqued my interest. [17:41] rick_h__: whoa! nice! [17:41] We'll see. If this thing starts misbehaving again then I'll be making an order [17:41] rick_h__: where are you staying? in the park or a hotel outside? [17:41] backpacking++ [17:41] greg-g: cabin outside [17:41] greg-g: what trail? [17:41] though obviously not from this keyboard should the F key go wonky. :) [17:41] cool! [17:41] mrgoodcat: no, we're going to be in SFO with family and have luggage/etc [17:41] mrgoodcat: California Trinity-Shasta National Forest [17:41] so just day hikes, but I'll be bringing the tripid and camer gear [17:42] ah. thats a bit far for me [17:42] I'm not giving direct directions, I need to keep this place semi-secret :) [17:42] mrgoodcat: hoists lakes and the manistee river trail/northern country trail loop are nice around here [17:42] lol [17:42] i like killarney provincial park in canada [17:42] though we've not backpacked since the boy was born [17:43] i've done some of the app. trail too though and it was amazing [17:43] greg-g: but yea, doing a really good family friendly wine country thing was getting to be too pita, so big parks it is then! [17:43] greg-g: not like we're out that way that often to see it anyway [17:43] yeah, backpacking turned to car camping on Dec 11, 2012 :) [17:43] lol [17:44] we tried one night of backpacking with a 6 month old, it worked, but yeah, only one night :) [17:44] the next day we went a bought a coleman tent and air mattress :) [17:44] wow that sounds painful [17:44] it wasn't too bad, he was mostly in "happy to be carried in a carrier" mode [17:45] but, making camp/dinner/setup stuff was tough [17:45] hah, yea we did tent camping but he'd get up at 4:30am most trips [17:45] and moved over to trailer "camping" [17:45] :) [17:46] greg-g: see my eagles nest pics from our trip the 4th? [17:46] no! [17:46] on g+? [17:46] https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14622411343/ [17:46] http://goo.gl/iwlo54 - P1030553.jpg | Flickr - Photo Sharing! [17:46] yea, G+ and I thought on twitter, but maybe not [17:46] http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=keyed_up_labs,tenkeyless&pid=es87u_cc_bbb_al [17:46] http://goo.gl/zlZLK7 - KUL ES-87 Tenkeyless Keyboard (Cherry MX Clear) - elitekeyboards.com - Products [17:47] That looks interesting [17:47] greg-g: there's one chick in the nest and another up to the left on a branch [17:47] cool [17:47] yea, was hoping to get mom or dad around but no luck [17:48] 550mm range to get that shot, needed a boat to get closer heh [17:48] rick_h__: what camera? [17:48] mrgoodcat: my gx7 [17:49] think it has camera/lens info if you scroll down [17:49] ah yes it does [17:49] ran into deer several times as well https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14579111846/ [17:49] http://goo.gl/cG2vSx - P1030476.jpg | Flickr - Photo Sharing! [17:49] https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14579079506/ [17:49] http://goo.gl/W0EpMH - P1030448.jpg | Flickr - Photo Sharing! [17:50] https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14414905070/in/photostream/ [17:50] http://goo.gl/Qe2SEp - P1030193.jpg | Flickr - Photo Sharing! [18:06] kids on summer vaction in coffee shop drinking their latte's through a straw [18:06] lol [18:06] heh [18:14] And to think we had to beg our parents for coffee-milk [18:15] Didn't even know how to order it [18:15] spoiled kids too, you should see their table, it's disgusting [18:15] half-finished pastries, crumbs everywhere [18:15] my dog would love them [18:17] Hate that [18:17] greg-g: wife sent this to me the other day http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052970204740904577196931457473816?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052970204740904577196931457473816.html [18:17] http://goo.gl/4aFso0 - Suspicious Activity Detected | Distil [18:17] bah [18:17] ;) [18:17] wsj hates me [18:17] Also: FUck Microsoft Activation [18:18] lol [18:18] greg-g: well shared with you on G+ and hopefully loads [18:18] yeah, that loaded fine [18:18] Had to do a repair on MS Office because it couldn't activate properly. [18:19] I remember there being a book recently about that, an american mom who moved to france and how she changed her parenting etc [18:19] Installed Libreoffice in the interim because it doesn't care how you use it, just how you distribute it. [18:19] greg-g: yea, not usually up to the bait of that stuff [18:19] If it's in the WSJ it's likely because someone is promoting said book. [18:19] ah, yeah, rick_h__, that's an excerpt/adaptation of the book I was thining of [18:19] ++ [18:19] greg-g: ah interesting [18:19] wait, no [18:19] cmaloney: gets the medal! [18:20] no, unwait, yes [18:20] it said "to be published on tuesday" so i was confused, until i saw the publication date of the article [18:20] anyway, I think we as parents sometimes do like to compare against others and yet know/feel like we shouldn't [18:20] Seriously, the only time a news-source prints a "blinding flash of the obvious" it's because someone is promoting something [18:21] Wonder at what point all of the news will be sponsored by something [18:22] "12 car-pileup in Downtown Happytown reported. In his latest book 'how to keep from crashing' Dr. Wanker described the common causes of 12 car pileups" [18:22] "1) Losing focus on the focus of driving" [18:23] "2) Rapture. Though this isn't as common as #1." [18:24] I pray ever day for the rapture [18:24] not for the same reasons others do [18:25] "Calgon, take them away" [18:25] :) [18:34] rapture palooza was a terrible movie. [18:34] lol [18:47] looks like she did a 2013 followup: Bébé day by day : 100 keys to French parenting [22:22] itunes is a pain in the arse. bleh