[04:45] Morning peeps [05:13] ThatGraemeGuy: "sudo apt-get purge minetest*" That won't try and expand in the shell? [06:06] morning [06:06] theblazehen: actually no, and interestingly enough i've never even realised before that its weird [06:06] hi ThatGraemeGuy and others [06:07] although if you happen to have any files in your current dir that match the glob,but the files don't match any package names, then you get an error [06:08] http://slexy.org/view/s2j99f5O8D <-- like that [06:12] of course, the correct answer is to always quote arguments where you don't want bash globbing them [06:13] sudo apt-get purge 'minetest*' [06:14] so Kilos have you decorated your whole house with paintings and installed a bunch of appliances already? :-) [06:14] and built a mesecons door that opens when you walk near it [06:14] haha no man i have to find flowers or something to mmake coloured stuff [06:15] yeah [06:15] there is just too much to work through [06:15] i've been stocking up on flowers for ages [06:15] ah [06:15] you'll see i have a bunch around my house [06:15] yeah [06:15] i only planted a few [06:15] every now and then i pick all but 1 of each colour then after a while they spread again [06:16] oh they spread automatically? [06:16] yes [06:16] cool [06:16] http://wiki.minetest.net/Flower [06:16] http://wiki.minetest.net/Group:flora [06:17] so basically plant them on grass, make sure there's enough space around them and they will spread slowly [06:18] didnt worry much about flowers because i dont plant much that doesnt bear fruit [06:18] in real life that is [06:18] apart from herbs of course [06:18] i still want to try placing a lot of dirt in an underground cavern and then have a lot of super glow glass above it, i'm pretty sure it'll grow grass [06:18] oh you havent seen [06:19] seen what? [06:19] bart got tired of the long trip up for wood so he complained and i had to go make him an area with his own wood down there [06:19] lemme find screenshot [06:20] haha [06:20] wood is easy though it grows in the dark [06:20] grass and flowers need light [06:22] you must make a chest at your house with a teleporting tube and another down the mineshaft, then you can teleport stuff down there [06:22] http://picpaste.com/screenshot_284335666-v81hc0qG.png [06:22] lol nice [06:22] i put lotsa lights but thats also where all that mese was [06:22] trees don't need light, just so you know for future [06:23] 3 more piles apart from that last shot of the blocks and mese [06:23] ty [06:23] without light ill keep walking into them hehe [06:24] oh, something else i noticed from the changelog [06:24] - Punch bones to pickup items, drop them if no space for bones [06:25] so it seems you can just click your bones to pick up all the items contained in them [06:25] i haven't tested though [06:25] easier than transferring one stack at a time [06:25] yeah that was big work [06:25] they also added desert cobblestone but i think that only affects newly-generated worlds [06:26] i just get a blue screen with clouds [06:27] need to restrt it i think [06:29] it keeps telling me i should upgrade my client [06:29] no it doesn't, read it properly [06:31] please note that the server has been updated, you should probably update your client too [06:33] yeah, ok maybe i should add "if you have not already done so", happy? :-p [06:33] i thought i was being helpful [06:33] hahaha oh that was you [06:48] spinza, ping [06:49] wow had a fat upgrade on 14.04 kde last night, 550m [06:50] oh ThatGraemeGuy i gave you the wrong link for that mirror [06:50] sorry [06:50] http://ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za [06:50] i think i said neurology [06:50] np, i'm using the mirror:// scheme now [06:51] oh and our mirror is fixed again [06:51] might have been upgrading [07:34] hi Vince-0 [07:34] lo nuvolari [07:34] yo jabberwockya19_ [07:35] hi Gremble dont grumble [07:36] hey Kilos [07:36] o/ [08:02] hi bushtech brrrr ne [08:02] so des ne [08:03] whats that mean charl [08:03] hi Kilos, Gremble, ThatGraemeGuy [08:03] hi charl [08:03] Maaz: coffee on [08:03] * Maaz washes some mugs [08:03] Kilos: japanese "so, that's how it is, ne" [08:03] actually it means "so, yes that is how it is, ne" [08:03] ah [08:04] koko ni hon ga arimasu ka [08:04] 'lo [08:04] is there a book here ? [08:05] 2where is the book if i remember right from over 40 years ago [08:05] hehe [08:05] hi Rynomster [08:07] Coffee's ready for charl! [08:07] Maaz: thanks [08:07] charl: Sure [08:07] vi Vince-0, Rynomster [08:07] ls [08:07] sorry, wrong window [08:08] and *hi [08:20] what's uup === SubOracle[away] is now known as SubOracle [08:57] definitely not the temperature [08:58] Maaz, sing mtn [08:58] Come on summer, Come on [09:10] ha [09:10] they got that stupid meerkat again [09:15] advertisement ? [09:17] i love my byobu setup right now http://i.imgur.com/7ZStCUq.png [09:17] i name each tab according to the irc network it's running in [09:58] can someone do me a favour and ftp to ubuntu-releases.mirror.liquidtelecom.com [09:59] and attempt to pull one of the ISO's [09:59] and just let me know if its working properly [10:01] Symmetria: on it [10:02] Symmetria: working fine it's just *really* slow [10:02] Symmetria: i'm getting less than 1MBps [10:03] ah now it's slowly starting to climb, hitting 1,5MBps now [10:05] getting in the region of 3MB/sec [10:05] hmm lemme do a mtr [10:05] around 6-7MB/sec now [10:05] wow thats fast ThatGraemeGuy [10:05] only about 8 hops, shouldn't be that bad, latency around 170ms [10:06] ThatGraemeGuy: you are talking about megaByte right, not megabit? [10:06] yes [10:06] yeah that's more than fair [10:06] thats nifty, on what link are you on and where are you based [10:06] I did a test to UFS in bloemfontein and was getting 40MBytes/second as well [10:07] I work at Hetzner :) [10:07] can you do a tracroute and paste it to me? [10:07] Im just verifying everything [10:08] 2014-07-10 12:08:02 (4,26 MB/s) - ‘ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso’ saved [1010827264] [10:08] md5sum checks out [10:08] thats decent [10:08] can you gimme a trace to the server? [10:09] http://slexy.org/raw/s2WXY9qqYE [10:09] charl, heh, I can give you some settings to apply to your box to re-test if you want that shold make it a shitload faster :P [10:10] Symmetria: yes please [10:10] how much ram is in your box? [10:10] Symmetria: 4 GB [10:11] ok, gonna give you some settings, I would suggest you revert back to the old settings after the test though [10:11] cause you don't have the ram to run these settings long term [10:11] net.core.rmem_max = 67108864 [10:11] net.ipv4.tcp_rmem = 4096 131072 33554432 [10:11] net.core.wmem_max = 67108864 [10:11] net.ipv4.tcp_wmem = 4096 131072 33554432 [10:11] set that and then try the download again [10:11] ;p [10:11] hmmm ok [10:11] sysctl -a |grep on those and save the old values [10:11] so you can revert back afterwards [10:11] ;p [10:16] let me know what those settings do to the transfer speed [10:22] interesting, right at the start it shot up to about 7MBps and then dropped down to what it was (1,5MBps) [10:24] restarted the wget, a couple of times, now it stays slow - irratically moves between 1,5MBps and 700KBps [10:25] ok deleted the file and am starting over, so that i can get a good average speed indication [10:38] 2014-07-10 12:36:05 (1,46 MB/s) - ‘ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso’ saved [1010827264] [10:39] that was the result of: wget -c ftp://ubuntu-releases.mirror.liquidtelecom.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso [10:40] just to double check: [10:40] charl@charl-laptop:~$ sudo sysctl -a|grep -E "(rmem_max|tcp_rmem|wmem_max|tcp_wmem)" [10:40] net.core.rmem_max = 67108864 [10:40] net.core.wmem_max = 67108864 [10:40] net.ipv4.tcp_rmem = 4096 131072 33554432 [10:40] net.ipv4.tcp_wmem = 4096 131072 33554432 [10:42] if i download ubuntu from a local mirror using the same settings: [10:42] 2014-07-10 12:42:13 (30,5 MB/s) - ‘ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso’ saved [1010827264] [10:48] retrying now under my old settings [10:49] hrm [10:49] charm you didnt adjust the net.core.rmem_max [10:49] thats still 6.7 meg [10:49] or if you did,, its missing a didgi [10:49] in which case I screwed up [10:49] ;p [10:50] oh no, thats right [10:50] charl, very strange [10:50] you should get better performance than that [10:50] way better [10:50] what kernel version [10:50] and is that 14.04? [10:50] charl@charl-laptop:~$ uname -a [10:50] Linux charl-laptop 3.13.0-30-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 4 21:40:53 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [10:50] yes ubuntu 14.04 [10:50] very odd [10:51] cause I tested to manchester and was getting 40MBytes/second with those settings [10:51] tested to Brussels and same thing [10:51] maybe it's the route it's taking [10:51] i'll paste you a mtr in PM [10:55] charl: lsb_release -a [10:55] ;-) [10:57] ThatGraemeGuy: i just cat /etc/issue ;) [10:58] heh wheee [10:59] meow [10:59] I managed to do 400mbit/seond from that server to tenet machines [11:24] ThatGraemeGuy: you work at hetzner? this vps i'm irc'ing from is also hosted at hetzner [11:24] good hosting company [11:24] and cheap :) [11:25] heztner germany [11:26] hetzner even [11:26] we don't do virtual stuff in SA [11:26] yes of course, i live next to germany :) [11:26] you don't do virtualisation? you would be one of the very few companies that have not gotten into that [11:27] yup [14:23] hi Cantide [14:24] hello~ [14:36] good night! lol [14:36] haha [14:36] sleep tight [14:36] ai! [16:11] Cryptography is hard :( [16:33] the morte you do it the easier it will get [17:14] hi psychicist [17:14] theblazehen: what you doing? [17:21] charl: own mesh network thing [17:21] Trying to encrypt multiple kilobytes with public key crypto [17:23] I probably shouldn't be implementing crypto... [18:06] theblazehen: don't you just use an existing crypto library ? [18:06] i've done it lots of times it's really simple [18:06] do all your rsa/dsa, aes etc, blowfish whatever you want [18:17] charl: I'm using pycrypto [18:17] But need to encrypt largish amount of data with public key crypto [18:18] So I'm now splitting it in 128 byte chunks, encrypting them and joining them [18:27] night all [18:30] 'lo peeps [18:31] hi ThatGraemeGuy [19:29] night all. sleep tight === SubOracle is now known as SubOracle[away]