[00:00] <JordanJ2> Hi, Can I install Ubuntu 14.04 with Secure Boot and UEFI mode both on alongside Windows 8 with no issues?
[00:02] <lucaspc> how i use shred in recursive mode?
[00:02] <ch_> 有中国的没有
[00:02] <eeee> !ch | ch_
[00:02] <edition> hey, how does library linking work under linux?
[00:03] <eeee> !cn | ch_
[00:03] <edition> I remember linking static libraries in Windows, but how is done under linux?
[00:03] <ESphynx> hey guys, how can I prevent the keyboard self-illuminating lights from going on everytime I go back to lightdm or everytime I log on?
[00:03] <ch_>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[00:04] <schultza> are you sure he's writing chinese?
[00:04] <edition> I thought chinese prefer Red hat?
[00:04] <daftykins> you're both off topic, drop it.
[00:04] <edition> sorry. How does linking work?
[00:05] <daftykins> if someone knew they'd answer
[00:05] <daftykins> you'd be better off asking in #linux
[00:05] <kostkon> edition, why are you asking
[00:06] <edition> under windows, I get how to link .lib files to my project.
[00:06] <edition> where to begin with linux?
[00:07] <ESphynx> edition: .a for static libraries  .so for dynamic library (they're like dll's, you don't need separate library to link against them... neither do you really do on Windows e.g. if you use GCC)
[00:07] <edition> ok
[00:07] <edition> so export symbols, similar idea?
[00:07] <ESphynx> edition: there are visibility settings now with GCC
[00:07] <ESphynx> what do you want to code? :)
[00:08] <edition> games :D
[00:08] <ESphynx> ah nice
[00:29] <Guest57526> dont know why we are all online if nobody talks
[00:30] <Monotoko> Guest57526 - do you need something Ubuntu related?
[00:41] <Killswitch> Hi guys, I'm trying to use trusty32 in Vagrant, but for some reason I get this. https://www.refheap.com/88015/raw anyone know what the issue is? precise32 worked fine, but now I want to build a VM using trusty32 but I can't even run a simple "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y" on the machine.
[00:42] <rsw> hey, rfkill indicates wifi is softblocked, but trying 'rfkill unblock wifi' won't unsoftblock it
[00:42] <rsw> it initiates a secondary prompt yet typing rfkill list indicates it's still softblocked
[00:52] <xarcus> Hi all. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS on a brand new Lenovo W540. NetworkManager does not recognize my wired or wireless ethernet devices.
[00:54] <daftykins> xarcus: 12.04.1 is old, it's 12.04.4 now. however 14.04 is also out
[00:56] <xarcus> Thanks daftykins. Is there any way (without having an internet connection) to upgrade from my 12.04.1 installation to 12.04.4?
[00:56] <Guest63847> Hey
[00:57] <ObrienDave> hey
[00:57] <daftykins> xarcus: it'd probably be easier to download a 12.04.4 ISO and reinstall... why are you sticking to 12.04 though?
[00:58] <edition> get 14.04
[00:59] <JoshUFRB> Somebody from Brazil?
[01:00] <lucaspc> 7x1
[01:01] <xarcus> My company uses Ubuntu OCDC through IBM which has Lotus Notes and other software preinstalled, so I'm unable to download a vanilla ISO of 12.04.4 or 14.04.
[01:02] <JoshUFRB> Hahahaha I don't like soccer
[01:02] <lucaspc> how to make a brazilian cry? poke them in the eye? say about 7x1 :(
[01:02] <JoshUFRB> or nop
[01:02] <JoshUFRB> :p
[01:03] <lucaspc> why did you asked a brazilian?
[01:03] <Ben64> !ot
[01:06] <lucaspc> thanks
[01:06] <b100s> hey guys!
[01:06] <rsw> hey, typing 'rfkill unblock 0' won't remove the softblock from my device?
[01:06] <b100s> does someone use GTAlk?
[01:06] <b100s> i cant set it up on my ubuntu
[01:06] <b100s> via Psi
[01:07] <daftykins> pretty sure it's unsupported
[01:07] <daftykins> rsw: rfkill unblock all ?
[01:27] <JordanJ2> Hi, Can anyone help me with a secure boot / UEFI question?
[01:27] <daftykins> not until you ask it
[01:27] <JordanJ2> Can I install Ubuntu (14.04) with Secure Boot and UEFI mode on with no issues
[01:28] <daftykins> if your system plays ball, yes... are you trying to dualboot with windows 8.1 ?
[01:28] <JordanJ2> Windows 8, but yes
[01:28] <daftykins> you're aware 8 updates to 8.1  ?
[01:28] <daftykins> !uefi | JordanJ2
[01:28] <will> Hello, I am having an issue where lowering my sound below about 30% instantly mutes it, but no mute icon is present and the slider does not jump.
[01:28] <daftykins> have a read there for info
[01:29] <JordanJ2> daftykins: Yes. But I never updated
[01:29] <ObrienDave> JordanJ2, you should probably update to 8.1 first
[01:29] <JordanJ2> May I ask the difference other then the appearance?
[01:30] <daftykins> this is not a Windows support channel
[01:30] <JordanJ2> Understood.
[01:30] <ObrienDave> i wouldn't know
[01:30] <daftykins> ultimately, you should always run an updated OS.
[01:30] <daftykins> if you don't update it now, it'll break your bootloader setup when you do, no doubt
[01:30] <Glorfinde1> is wubi supported here?
[01:31] <daftykins> WUBI is supported nowhere
[01:31] <JordanJ2> Ah
[01:31] <daftykins> it should be taken out back and shot
[01:32] <rahduke> Ok I've switched back to Ubuntu after a few years of running Mint, I'm having a baffling issue setting up simple samba shares on my network, both PCs are running 14.04, have samba installed on both. I setup the share on my server just by right clicking and going to sharing. Checked "allow others to create bla bla bla" and "Guest Access" and on the remote maching I'm constantly prompted to enter a user and password for my "Workgroup" network
[01:32] <rahduke> what am I missing, I feel stupid
[01:32] <Glorfinde1> drat
[01:32] <ESphynx> I liked WUBI :(
[01:32] <daftykins> rahduke: what's the other host?
[01:32] <rahduke> daftykins: what do you mean?
[01:33] <rahduke> running a Desktop and an HTPC both x86 running Ubuntu 14.04
[01:33] <daftykins> rahduke: ah ok, i can't comment on this graphical method but i'm familiar with manual SAMBA config
[01:34] <rahduke> daftykins: yea thats what I've always done, or installed the SAMBA config gui
[01:34] <rahduke> but i thought I'd take advantage of Ubuntu 14's "ease of use" LOL
[01:35] <Glorfinde1> Well in the off chance that someone knows the answer, Does WUBI 13.04 not install from iso files that are in the same folder anymore?
[01:35] <will> I asked a minute ago, but just in case no one noticed: I'm trying to lower my volume settings below 30%, but there is absolutely no sound present when the volume is set below 30%. This only happens with a USB headset.
[01:35] <daftykins> rahduke: *shrug* in my experience, though this is slightly off topic, anything in computing that ever tried to make things easier was a nightmware to debug.
[01:35] <rahduke> any ops around? or anyone who knows stuff?
[01:35] <daftykins> will: yeah please apply more patience, 7 minutes isn't all that.
[01:36] <daftykins> this is a volunteer run channel, nobody is 'official'
[01:36] <daftykins> rahduke: i assume you've looked through logs?
[01:36] <will> ok dafty, just wasn't sure if my question was lost in the sea of help
[01:36] <daftykins> Glorfinde1: 13.04 is an EOL ubuntu release regardless of using WUBI or not.
[01:37] <rahduke> daftykins: was hoping this wasn't a whole read thru logs issue, I'm sure its something stupid I'm missing and google is not helping
[01:37] <Glorfinde1> It was a 14.04 installation using WUBI 13.04
[01:37] <daftykins> Glorfinde1: as mentioned, no WUBI support.
[01:37] <ObrienDave> WUBI needs to die a slow painful death
[01:37] <daftykins> ^+1
[01:38] <Glorfinde1> ah well, I'll just wait... search google... thanks for the help :)
[01:39] <rahduke> like simple network sharing...why can't ubuntu get it together with this?
[01:39] <rahduke> I just spent 20 mins re-figuring out all my NFS permissions and now I can't even browse my SMB network
[01:39] <daftykins> rahduke: well, here's an idea - have you considered that others have it working fine - and that it could be your setup? :)
[01:39] <daftykins> i love the way people come in and think that the entire OS must be wrong because feature X doesn't work for them.
[01:40] <rahduke> well a bit of research turns up http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/samba-in-14-04-broken/1301
[01:40] <JordanJ2> I'm reading this, and do I need to do anything about creating/mounting a EFI partition if windows 8 was preinstalled?
[01:40] <rahduke> and tons of other threads like it, doesn't seem to be an isolated problem, most everyone hates smb in ubuntu...have for a long long time.
[01:41] <daftykins> rahduke: you know the thing about looking for bad press?
[01:42] <daftykins> rahduke: anyway, i take it both systems are fully dist-upgrade'd?
[01:42] <rahduke> daftykins: lol you are right,
[01:42] <daftykins> JordanJ2: no you should already have an EFI partition, you can confirm from a booted LiveCD by running "sudo parted -l"
[01:43] <daftykins> JordanJ2: it's pretty much guaranteed though if you have a computer that came with 8
[01:43] <rahduke> daftykins: i owe much to ubuntu and its variants, been a dedicated user for 10yrs. It's frustrating to run into the same issues everytime I fresh install for 12+ versions of ubuntu tho
[01:43] <JordanJ2> Ok
[01:43] <JordanJ2> How would I mount that in the installer?
[01:43] <fowlslegs> How is the touchscreen support on Unity?
[01:44] <daftykins> rahduke: you need to stick to LTSs, i can actually confirm first-hand that configuring samba by hand on LTS servers has gotten easier each time :) 10.04 -> 12.04 -> 14.04
[01:45] <daftykins> rahduke: anyway you know what they say, wait until the first point release of all software... for 14.04, .1 "comes out" toward the end of this month
[01:45] <daftykins> JordanJ2: that won't be necessary, the installer will take care of it automatically
[01:46] <rahduke> daftykins: .04 is lts
[01:46] <JordanJ2> Even if I pick the "Something Else" option?
[01:46] <daftykins> rahduke: no, it is not... 13.04 wasn't for example.
[01:46] <daftykins> !13.04
[01:47] <daftykins> JordanJ2: well then you'd have to select it and set it as mount point /efi i think, it's all in that page, or should be
[01:47] <rahduke> daftykins: what are you talking about all the .04s are LTS
[01:47] <JordanJ2> Okay
[01:47] <rahduke> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[01:47] <daftykins> rahduke: no, 13.04 was not LTS.
[01:47] <ObrienDave> rahduke, 13.04 was NOT a LTS
[01:48] <rahduke> umm ok well 14.04 is
[01:48] <ObrienDave> 12.04 was, 14.04 is
[01:48] <daftykins> rahduke: yeah i said that already
[01:48] <rahduke> i dunno ive been using Mint since 12.04 so i missed a couple versions
[01:48] <rahduke> didnt realize they dropped LTS on 13.04, why was that?
[01:48] <daftykins> because reasons.
[01:48] <ObrienDave> LTS is only every 2 years
[01:48] <rahduke> unity
[01:49] <daftykins> is this where you tell us you're actually running Mint and sneakily asking for support in here because the Mint channel is dead? :)
[01:49] <ObrienDave> boo hiss ;P
[01:49] <rahduke> daftykins: no i jsut switched back from MInt! thats why I did a fresh install, thats hwy im having issues
[01:50] <daftykins> hehe
[01:50] <fowlslegs> Is there a Unity channel? I'm curious how Unity handles touchscreens.
[01:50] <ObrienDave> you're in it AFAIK
[01:51] <daftykins> ok i have to sleep now, good luck with your issue anyway. but hey, configuring samba is a few lines of config and so much less heartache
[02:06] <geitda> I'm having trouble installing 14.04 - it gets stuck at "Configuring bcmwl-kernel-source (amd64)" and I already read http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers/60395#60395 but that doesn't help me right now because the installation hasn't even finished yet. Do I need to install in some different manner?
[02:18] <geitda2> I'd really love a hand with finding my way through finishing my 14.04 installation; it
[02:19] <DrakkenWarr> what's the problem geitda2?
[02:19] <geitda2> is stuck at "Configuring bcmwl-kernel-source" and that has something to do with my wireless card (sorry for extra CR)
[02:20] <DrakkenWarr> do you know what wireless card you have/
[02:20] <DrakkenWarr> ?
[02:20] <geitda2> yep, Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4318] (rev 02)
[02:20] <Guest90667> hi
[02:21] <geitda2> I read the page at http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers/60395#60395 but I'm not finished installing (since it's stuck), so I'm not sure what to do from here.
[02:22] <Guest76104> exit
[02:22] <DrakkenWarr> hrm, have tried disabling your wireless card. doing the install plugged in through ethernet and then renabling your card after install?
[02:23] <Guest76104> q
[02:23] <Guest76104> q:
[02:23] <geitda2> How would I "disable" it? I mean, I could physically remove it
[02:27] <wheatthin> has anybody noticed artifacts in chrome on ubuntu 14.04?
[02:27] <DrakkenWarr> nope
[02:27] <DrakkenWarr> sounds like you might have a video driver issue
[02:31] <geitda2> Thanks for the suggestion, DrakkenWarr. I'm off to perform PCI card surgery to hopefully get this installation to finish.
[02:55] <vadi2> How can I install a certificate into the 'System Trust' portions of the Passwords & Keys app?
[02:56] <happyfr0gg> where are the tcp/ip related parameters located in Ubuntu 12.04?
[03:04] <hellorgb> hello, would anyone happen to know how to recover a password stored in telepathy/empathy? I've tried using seahorse, but it isn't listed there. I also tried mc-tool, but the password wasn't listed there either.
[03:08] <sydney> I think this channel is sleeping;i dont have an answer for any of you. :(
[03:09] <Mayonnaise> !botsnack
[03:10] <sydney> !apt
[03:11] <sydney> !snack
[03:11] <sydney> :P
[03:12] <Mayonnaise> !hello
[03:13] <sydney> !info goobert
[03:13] <sydney> :D
[03:13] <sydney> Sorry for the spam.
[03:45] <edition> why is everyone quitting?
[03:46] <cfhowlett> edition ask your ubuntu questions
[03:46] <edition> sorry. how to run Android apps in ubuntu?
[03:47] <cfhowlett> edition only with an android emulator and probably with less than 100% functionality
[03:47] <edition> but why?
[03:47] <cfhowlett> edition ??
[03:47] <edition> Android is linux, why are they incompatible?
[03:48] <cfhowlett> edition android aint' ubuntu!  and vice versa.
[03:48] <cfhowlett> android is NOT linux
[03:48] <edition> like GNU's not Unix?
[03:48] <edition> ah
[03:50] <edition> so the roadblocks between Android are the processor, and the hardware deps?
[03:50] <edition> I mean, architecture
[03:52] <cfhowlett> edition perhaps a conversation best had in #android or ##linux - I don't have sufficient knowledge to discuss sensibly.
[03:52] <edition> thanks anyway
[03:54] <shawn_> hi, i am trying to put ubuntu on my mac and over write the mac os
[03:54] <cfhowlett> !mac | shawn_
[03:54] <shawn_> i put in the usb like i did with my windows comupters but it does not work
[03:55] <linuxuz3r> how do i make sudo to ask for password
[03:56] <linuxuz3r> if i do sudo -s it goes to root right away
[03:56] <cfhowlett> linuxuz3r souunds like you didn't assign a root password
[03:56] <cfhowlett> !root
[03:56] <linuxuz3r> i did
[03:56] <cfhowlett> !password
[04:10] <linuxuz3r> how do i make sudo ask for password each time sudo -s is executed
[04:10] <linuxuz3r> or sudo program
[04:11] <q0> i find focus follows mouse helpful but why isnt there a mouse follows focus or notification thing?
[04:36] <rik___> hey
[04:37] <x_br3ak> alguien me podria apoyar con GKrellm... como hago para que arranque desde el inicio
[04:37] <crazyhead42> How good is Ubuntu on laptops?
[04:38] <rik___> So I had a working installation of windows 8.1. My machine booted to that automatically. I tried installing crunchbang a day or two ago and the installation went fine but there was no grub or anything like that afterwards. It just kept booting into windows. Now today, I tried installing ubuntu gnome. When that was completed I didn't even get a grub menu; it just booted directly into ubuntu. Now i ran boot-repair and i ended up with a grub me
[04:38] <rik___> nu but my windows 8.1 didnt show up.
[04:39] <crazyhead42> Use "update-grub" in ubuntu
[04:39] <rik___> I did that
[04:39] <crazyhead42> Yikes. Windows really does hate linux
[04:39] <ecdhe> how do you get xchat-gnome to auto-join a channel when it loads?
[04:40] <rik___> now when I ran parted, with a print all before, I could see that my ext4 partition started from an offset of about 400gb which sounds right to me. so im pretty sure that my windows partition was still there. now after running boot-repair again and messing around a bit, parted now tells me that the ext4 partition starts from where my windows parition should have started
[04:40] <crazyhead42> I know there is a command thing where you can put in plain text what you want the - no I'm on a different client
[04:41] <rik___> i don't think any data was deleted and i don't mind getting rid of the ubuntu installation, i just want to know if its possible to get my windows installation back
[04:41] <Locke2002> x_br3ak: #ubuntu-es
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: rightmouse click the channel, add to favorites and autojoin
[04:41] <x_br3ak> thank you Locke2002
[04:42] <ecdhe> thanks lotuspsychje, I appreciate it!
[04:43] <OssumPawesome> hello I'm trying to use elinks as a rather new Ubuntu user - could anyone help me?
[04:43] <rik___> anyone have any ideas?
[04:44] <crazyhead42> You could try adding custom boot commands. Tell it to boot to specific partitions, but if that doesn't work, you'll have to bootrepair every time you break it.
[04:45] <crazyhead42> Or otherwise boot to ubuntu.
[04:45] <OssumPawesome> I'm attempting to fill out a form using elinks (to forward a port remotely), and when I submit the form it never changes anything.
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> OssumPawesome: maybe try links2
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> !info links2 | OssumPawesome
[04:46] <rik___> crazyhead42, i suppose i could but im not even sure that would work at this point
[04:47] <OssumPawesome> thank you lotuspsychje i will try that
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> rik___: recover data, and install ubuntu clean to make your life easy :p
[04:49] <rik___> i really don't want to do that XD
[04:49] <rik___> i spent like 2 days getting my windows partition the way i wanted it to be
[04:50] <OssumPawesome> lotuspsychje, links2 also does not change anything when the form is submitted
[04:50] <ShutemDown> I'm having trouble connecting my android tablet to my linux pc.  It doesn't show up when I lsusb
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> OssumPawesome: what kinda form is this?
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> ShutemDown: ubuntu version?
[04:51] <OssumPawesome> its the portforwarding form on my router at home. I'm attempting to forward a port remotely from my ubuntu webserver over ssh
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> OssumPawesome: 192.168?
[04:51] <OssumPawesome> yeah
[04:51] <OssumPawesome> 0.1 if it matters
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> OssumPawesome: never tryed that on links2 myself, not sure if its possible
[04:52] <ShutemDown> lotuspsychje: 3.5.0
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> ShutemDown: there is an android mount package for ubuntu, i forgot its name
[04:52] <ShutemDown> mtpfs?
[04:52] <ShutemDown> mtp-tools?
[04:53] <ShutemDown> I installed those
[04:53] <phryk> hello
[04:53] <phryk> i've a problem with my touchpad
[04:53] <ShutemDown> mpt i mean
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> ShutemDown: yes i think that was it
[04:53] <misevra> 123456
[04:53] <OssumPawesome> yeah im starting to think maybe this is just a type of form that is not usable with elinks or links2. its very frustrating because I could do this in 30 seconds with a web browser from home, and I can even see the screen that I can do it on through elinks/links2 just submitting the form doesnt update the information to include my new forwarded port
[04:53] <ShutemDown> i ran it and it recognizes its attached, but lsusb doesn't
[04:54] <phryk> i used to have 2-finger-click emulating middle click and now it's doing a right click
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> OssumPawesome: you only have cli to use?
[04:54] <phryk> any help?
[04:54] <OssumPawesome> what do you mean by cli lotuspsychje
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> OssumPawesome: commandline only, no gui
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> ShutemDown: is it for data transfer?
[04:55] <ShutemDown> yes
[04:55] <OssumPawesome> actually I allow users to remotedesktop in does that work over the internet? or just locally
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> ShutemDown: whats your ubuntu version?
[04:55] <ShutemDown> I'm on mint actually
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> !mint | ShutemDown
[04:55] <aniruddha> i am customising ubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso. i am noob and customising it using LiveCDCustomization Guide. please help i am not able to connetc internet in guest(extracted OS). Please help me wrt to the guide ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization)
[04:55] <ShutemDown> ok sorry thanks
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> OssumPawesome: maybe ask the #ubuntu-server guys howto access 192.168 from commandline
[04:56] <OssumPawesome> ok thanks lotuspsychje
[04:59] <aniruddha> i am customising ubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso. i am noob and customising it using LiveCDCustomization Guide. please help i am not able to connect internet in guest(extracted OS). Please help me wrt to the guide ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization)
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> ShutemDown: install ubuntu 14.04 its very neat, and supports alot of things
[05:00] <crazyhead42> But apparently not boot repair
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> crazyhead42: ubuntu is not responsible what users try to do
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> crazyhead42: what does your fdisk -l show?
[05:03] <tevin_> Hi, When I install packages from software center(Eg:vlc) in ubuntu 12.04, it shows dependency errors. If I install all pakages from update packages , will it be resolved? or sudo apt-get install -f will resolve ?
[05:03] <crazyhead42> Yeah, but I would not install something (on purpose) that didn't support a "Fix your boot" program. I actually removed my master boot loader.
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> !fixmbr | crazyhead42
[05:04] <tevin_> @carzyhead42 http://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=fdisk+-l
[05:04] <crazyhead42> I tried several times with the instructions. Usually I couldn't even get to the first step.
[05:04] <crazyhead42> SOmeone fixed it though
[05:04] <crazyhead42> Walked me through, got me Boot Repair, saved my butt.
[05:05] <tevin_> Hi, When I install packages from software center(Eg:vlc) in ubuntu 12.04, it shows dependency errors. If I install all pakages from update packages , will it be resolved? or sudo apt-get install -f will resolve ?
[05:16] <aniruddha>  i am customising ubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso. i am noob and customising it using LiveCDCustomization Guide. please help i am not able to connect internet in guest(extracted OS). Please help me wrt to the guide ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization)
[05:18] <Joordan__8> Hi, I am installimg Ubuntu using UEFI and Secure Boot enabled, I selected "Soomething Else" ans mounted the /dev/sda(x) partition. What woud I mount the efi partition as?
[05:19] <Abhijit> aniruddha, you need to copy /etc/resolve.conf from host to guest
[05:20] <meganerd> aniruddha: Abhijit or use the uck package
[05:20] <triplc> hi all
[05:20] <michagogo> Is there a way to pre-download a package?
[05:21] <Abhijit> michagogo, and what does pre-download means?
[05:21] <Joordan__8> Anyone?
[05:21] <meganerd> michagogo: apt-get -d <packagename>
[05:21] <michagogo> So that the file is sitting there, ready to be installed without downloading when you apt-get install it
[05:21] <triplc> How to activate Scrollbar Overlay? I install ubuntu server (to get a minimal desktop) and it does not come with overlay
[05:21] <Abhijit> :-/
[05:22] <michagogo> The use case is a VM that's used for deterministic software building. A build can be run for several different platforms (Linux, mingw cross-compile, etc) and each one requires different packages
[05:23] <michagogo> With the VM being reset to a clean snapshot before each build
[05:23] <michagogo> If running on a Linux host, there's a solution, apt-cacher-ng
[05:23] <michagogo> But afaik there's nothing like that for Windows or OS X
[05:24] <meganerd> michagogo: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:24] <michagogo> meganerd: hmm? What about it?
[05:24] <meganerd> michagogo: download the .deb files
[05:24] <meganerd> michagogo: you will also need to grab dependencies and install manually with dpkg -i
[05:25] <michagogo> meganerd: right, I'm specifically looking for not-that.
[05:25] <meganerd> michagogo: what you really want though is an apt-cache server and use something like saltstack to rapidly configure your VMs
[05:25] <michagogo> This is for a workaround for Windows and OS X users who don't have apt-cacher-ng
[05:25] <meganerd> michagogo: why would they need Ubuntu packages?
[05:25] <meganerd> michagogo: or .debs in general?
[05:25] <michagogo> meganerd: it's run in an Ubuntu VM
[05:26] <michagogo> meganerd: this is for deterministic software builds in a VM
[05:26] <michagogo> The VM runs Ubuntu
[05:27] <michagogo> Usually the host is Linux, but we have a builder who uses OS X
[05:27] <michagogo> He just preinstalls packages into his base vm, but that sometimes breaks things
[05:28] <michagogo> So a way to "stage" a package, so to speak, having it ready for an apt-get install but without a download, would be very helpful if that exists
[05:29] <michagogo> meganerd: if you're interested, the build process in question is https://GitHub.com/devrandom-gitian-builder
[05:30] <meganerd> michagogo: 404
[05:31] <michagogo> er, s|-|/|
[05:31] <michagogo> Devrandom is the user
[05:32] <michagogo> 8:29:46 <michagogo> meganerd: if you're interested, the build process in question is https://GitHub.com/devrandom/gitian-builder <-- fixed
[05:34] <meganerd> michagogo: I thought vagrant could create virtualbox VMs?
[05:35] <michagogo> meganerd: that name rings a bell
[05:36] <michagogo> I think someone may have been looking into it
[05:36] <meganerd> michagogo: so if I understand this, you need a basic, repeatable build environment that is either a virtual machine or a linux container?
[05:38] <michagogo> meganerd: sounds right. Btw, this is for https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/release-process.md
[05:38] <user123321> Why did my LUbuntu hang? It's so annoying if it happens, I'd have to press the power key in my laptop :/
[05:39] <user123321> caps lock didn't work either, so it seems, "freeze"?
[05:39] <meganerd> michagogo: http://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/why-vagrant/
[05:41] <user123321> how to open rar files in ubuntu/lubuntu?
[05:41] <user123321> should I get rar or unrar, or any other?
[05:43] <meganerd> user123321: I use the package p7zip-full for everything (except tar.gz/tar.bz/tar.Z)
[05:43] <VA6DAH|2> user123321, did you try Ctrl + Alt + F2 and stop/start the desktop?
[05:44] <user123321> meganerd, aha.
[05:44] <user123321> VA6DAH|2, Oops, I didn't know that command before.
[05:45] <meganerd> michagogo: I need to get some sleep.  Best of luck!
[05:45] <user123321> VA6DAH|2, So is it a life saver if ever my pc become frozen?
[05:45] <VA6DAH|2> user123321, it just gets you to a terminal, from there probably just stop/start lightdm.
[05:47] <user123321> VA6DAH|2, btw, I tried pressing ctrl+alt+del now and it made me log out :o
[05:48] <waltz_> quit
[05:48] <waltz_> quit
[05:48] <user123321> VA6DAH|2, regarding ctrl+alt+F2, should it work even when the caps key was not responding? I thought everything was supposed to be frozen, including keyboard.
[05:48] <VA6DAH|2> Lol, Cntl + Alt + F2, to get back to desktop switch F2 out for F7.
[05:48] <Joordan__8> Hi, I am installimg Ubuntu using UEFI and Secure Boot enabled, I selected "Soomething Else" ans mounted the /dev/sda(x) partition. What woud I mount the efi partition as?
[05:48] <VA6DAH|2> In a full freeze it will not work, just when the desktop environment is frozen.
[05:49] <VA6DAH|2> IE - If you run a bash fork it will not work.
[05:50] <user123321> VA6DAH|2, Lol, I just pressed ctrl+alt+f2, and I didn't know how to come out of it, pressed ctrl+alt+del, rebooted o.O
[05:50] <michagogo> user123321: ctrl-alt- and one of the high F keys iirx
[05:50] <michagogo> IIRC*
[05:51] <user123321> IIRC?
[05:53] <user123321> oh, just googled. ctrl+alt+f7 to get back?
[05:53] <Abhijit> !pm | aniruddha
[05:54] <VA6DAH|2> Anyways going to go to bed. This might help you understand xorg and tty* a bit better. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1826544
[05:55] <VA6DAH|2> http://askubuntu.com/questions/277517/what-does-ctrl-alt-f12-do
[05:55] <user123321> cool
[05:55] <VA6DAH|2> Second link is better to read.
[05:55] <user123321> but should it work even if the caps lock key does not respond?
[05:55] <forty6and281> i have a question !?!  <--- newb here
[05:56] <user123321> I thought even the keyboard was handing.
[05:56] <user123321> forty6and281, shoot it.
[05:56] <VA6DAH|2> It depends on the situation, but probably not.
[05:56] <user123321> VA6DAH|2, I see.
[05:56] <forty6and281> i partitioned my drive for ubuntu.   after installing ubuntu it loads then says Disk drive for /tmp is not ready yet or not present....
[05:57] <VA6DAH|2> That actually sounds like a kernal issue where you have that level of freezing.
[05:57] <forty6and281> i have read that it is a bug
[05:57] <VA6DAH|2> If you got a ps/2 keyboard laying around try that.
[05:57] <VA6DAH|2> They still got their uses when nothing else works.
[05:57] <user123321> VA6DAH|2, my laptop doesn't have ps/2 :/
[05:58] <forty6and281> and to try Sudo mv /tmp tmp/_old   then it says Can not move ./tmp Read-only file-system
[05:58] <user123321> VA6DAH|2, I use USB mouse.
[06:00] <forty6and281> DISK DRIVE FOR /tmp IS NOT READY YET OR NOT PRESENT      anyone else with this issue installing newest ubuntu ??
[06:01] <forty6and281> http://askubuntu.com/questions/492221/can-someone-help-me-finish-installing-ubuntu-on-my-partitioned-hard-drive?noredirect=1#comment658588_492221
[06:05] <forty6and281> HELLO ??
[06:09] <forty6and281> no help here ???
[06:15] <user123321> Is the command "sudo apt-get install lamp-server^" suffice for a fully functional lamp server? (LUbuntu)
[06:16] <Abhijit> user123321, you need to service apache2 start and same for mysqld after that
[06:17] <user123321> Abhijit, strange, without any other command, I could see apache page @ localhost.
[06:17] <Abhijit> user123321, good for you.
[06:18] <user123321> Abhijit, how to check if mysql is running?
[06:18] <Abhijit> ps grep mysql
[06:18] <Abhijit> ps aux | grep mysql
[06:18] <edition> ps | grep mysql
[06:18] <edition> oops
[06:18] <Abhijit> :-p
[06:18] <Abhijit> aux
[06:19] <user123321> I could see 3 "mysql" highlighted in red.
[06:19] <Abhijit> user123321, now do mysql  -u -p root
[06:20] <Abhijit> one space
[06:20] <somsip> user123321: mysql -u root -p
[06:20] <Abhijit> :-z
[06:20] <mas> Close
[06:20] <somsip> Abhijit: slow down...
[06:20]  * Abhijit slows down.
[06:20] <somsip> :)
[06:20] <user123321> yes, I could see mysql prompt :d
[06:21]  * edition uses MariaDB
[06:21] <Abhijit> no one asked.
[06:22] <user123321> ok, how to access php my admin?
[06:22] <Abhijit> can i type rtfm?
[06:22] <somsip> Abhijit: man man
[06:22] <somsip> Abhijit: oh...I see.
[06:23] <user123321> doesn't lamp install it? o.o
[06:23] <somsip> user123321: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin
[06:24] <user123321> somsip, cool
[06:25] <user123321> btw, if I want mongoDB, PHP, and apache, shall I install them separately?
[06:25] <somsip> user123321: user preference. I prefer to.
[06:25] <edition> your choice.
[06:25] <Abhijit> user123321, no. after installing lamp-server^ just install mongodb. and make apache work with mongodb
[06:26] <user123321> cool, ok.
[06:28] <guardian1> hello... im trying to follow these instructions http://shuvalov.com/mcrypt-not-found-in-phpmyadmin/ on Ubuntu 12.04
[06:29] <mastershake> hey guys im having a problem formatting a usb here, it keeps saying its write protected and i alreayd issued a sudo hdparm -r0 /dev/sdf to no avail, any ideas?
[06:29] <guardian1> no matter what ive tried, "sudo php5enmod mcrypt" returns command not found
[06:29] <mastershake> no not write protected, read-only
[06:29] <mastershake> and im tyring to format it
[06:29] <somsip> guardian1: IIRC php5enmod does not exist in 5.3.10
[06:30] <somsip> guardian1: so are you really on 12.04 and what version of php5 are you using?
[06:31] <guardian1> ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS and PHP 5.3.10
[06:32] <somsip> guardian1: looks like I'm wrong. Did you create the link described here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/350942/cannot-get-mcrypt-for-php5
[06:32] <mastershake> anyone?
[06:33] <guardian1> somsip: yes, i just tried it again to make sure .... heres the output - https://privatepaste.com/dcb8b2189d
[06:35] <somsip> guardian1: I still can't remember having to use php5enmod on 12.04. Definitely on 14.04, but not on 12.04. Have you restarted apache and php -m ?
[06:35] <Inoki> Does anyone have the issue with Ubuntu 14.04 not showing correct size of free space?
[06:36] <frank_za> Hi guys
[06:36] <guardian1> somsip: php -m is supposed to show php5enmod in it? if so, it doesnt.... i tried restarting apache2 a few times... rebooting the server now... same thing, it doesnt see php5enmod
[06:36] <frank_za> I wanted to find out if there was any particular reason ubuntu holds back on the version of quid-cpp?
[06:36] <somsip> guardian1: php -m shows all loaded mods, so mcrypt wil be in there if its worked
[06:37] <somsip> !info quid-cpp | frank_za (current version shows here, usually no upgrades across major versions for any release)
[06:38] <frank_za> sorry, i meant qpid-cpp
[06:38] <somsip> !info qpid-cpp
[06:38] <frank_za> !info qpidd
[06:38] <guardian1> somsip: mcrypt doesnt show in php -m
[06:39] <somsip> frank_za: so pre 1.X versions can't always be updated if they aren't backwards compatible I guess
[06:40] <somsip> guardian1: paste an ls of /etc/php5/conf.d and /etc/php5/mods-available
[06:41] <frank_za> somsip, what do you mean?
[06:42] <somsip> frank_za: beta software does not necessarily keep a consistent API
[06:42] <somsip> frank_za: but either way, the version is as stated there. If you want a different version, you'd have to go to a PPA
[06:43] <frank_za> yeah
[06:43] <frank_za> i was more trying to find out if there was a particular reason
[06:43] <frank_za> :)
[06:43] <somsip> frank_za: you'd need to ask the package maintainers
[06:43] <CharlesIC> HELLO FRIENDS
[06:43] <CharlesIC> i have a question
[06:43] <CharlesIC> http://askubuntu.com/questions/314806/what-to-do-about-a-badblock-problem
[06:44] <CharlesIC> If your concerned about your HD the run disk utility you can find it in the dash.
[06:44] <CharlesIC> Click on the button to check the disk and allow it to run all tests, it can take a long time, 30+ minutes is reasonable.
[06:44] <guardian1> somsip: https://privatepaste.com/35aee04356
[06:44] <CharlesIC> i dont understand how to get to what it's talking about. im running latest ubuntu live dvd
[06:44] <frank_za> okay, what would be the best route to do that?
[06:44] <CharlesIC> what's "the dash?"
[06:44] <somsip> frank_za: find who they are from the launchpad package page, contact them...
[06:45] <user123321> is the command "chown $USER ." alright for owning a folder that's not giving me access atm?
[06:45] <user123321> editting too*
[06:45] <user123321> oops I mean, I'm not allowed to edit atm.
[06:46] <trijntje> hi all, how can I automatically download a package + all dependencies to install on an offline machine?
[06:47] <jack-> apt-get install it there, write down what it wants to download
[06:47] <Thubo> user123321: You have to have root rights, if you want to modify a folder that is not yours. plus i'm not sure if the . works, or if you have to specify the folders name from 'above', i.e. one folder level higher.
[06:47] <trijntje> jack-: that's not automatic. I dont want to do it manually, I want the pc to do the hard work
[06:48] <user123321> Thubo, Aha.
[06:48] <jack-> so? just put everything in one line, execute it...voila, the computer does it all alone.
[06:49] <CharlesIC> jack-, can you help me plz
[06:49] <somsip> guardian1: looks normal, but I don't remember needing to do any of this on 12.04. Only on 14.04. And I have something I need to fix elsewhere now...
[06:49] <bazhang> !aptoncd | trijntje
[06:49] <guardian1> ok ty somsip
[06:49] <jack-> lol?
[06:49] <CharlesIC> http://askubuntu.com/questions/314806/what-to-do-about-a-badblock-problem
[06:49] <CharlesIC> i dont understand the second instruction there
[06:49] <CharlesIC> disk utility found in the dash
[06:49] <CharlesIC> where is that?
[06:54] <trijntje> bazhang: thats also not what I want. I just want to be able to do apt-get --download firefox --plus-dependencies, isn't there a tool to do that?
[06:55] <trijntje> !dash | CharlesIC
[06:55] <trijntje> CharlesIC: hm, thas wrong, nevermind. The Dash is the menu you get when you hit the windows/super key
[06:56] <CharlesIC> so what do i do at that point?
[06:56] <CharlesIC> what's the name of the disk utility program?
[06:56] <trijntje> disks
[06:57] <trijntje> the dash is smart, if you type something like 'disk' it wil find it, just like it will find firefox if you type 'web' or 'internet'
[06:59] <CharlesIC> oh ok
[07:01] <ChaosZen> I'm having difficulty binding low ports, even with sudo. How do I check what might be blocking port 23 (telnet)?
[07:03] <paca_paca> i want to use my remote ubuntu server as a bridge between my pc and my other server (which is blocked from my location) for ssh connection. i have the corresponding keypair on my ubuntu and my other serrver. how do i open a window to my blockes server?
[07:03] <paca_paca> *blocked
[07:03]  * edition thinks that paca_paca is a hacker_hacker
[07:04] <paca_paca> i am realy not
[07:04] <paca_paca> i am just new to this
[07:05] <CharlesIC> ok i think i found it
[07:05] <LeBlaaanc> hey guys how can I make autofs always show the mount directory instead of just when I "cd" into it?
[07:05] <CharlesIC> disk utility says disk is ok, 412 bad sectors
[07:06] <paca_paca> i have my key pair for both servers and between servers but for some reason i can't access one of my servers through web browser or through ssh
[07:08] <paca_paca> i do however have an ssh tunnel i made for sql access that is alive and this thing also happend a while back and the hosting company said it closed access to users outside of the country for temporary security reasons
[07:08] <CharlesIC> trijntje, what do you thi?nk of that
[07:08] <CharlesIC> disk is OK, 412 bad sectors
[07:09] <paca_paca> so all i need is to know how to open an ssh window like i have from my pc to server a, and use it as a middleman to server b
[07:10] <paca_paca> anyone know of the appropriate ssh command for it?
[07:10] <trijntje> CharlesIC: I don't know, if it says the disk is ok I guess its ok?
[07:12] <CharlesIC> oh ok
[07:13] <CharlesIC> trijntje, one more thing
[07:13] <CharlesIC> oh nevermind
[07:14] <CharlesIC> ok now it says 193 bad sectors
[07:15] <SpeendaSh> Hello everyone i'm a xubuntu user and i have a little problem with samba share, i've configure it well so that i can acces my shared folders through my other computers with a password but for some reason i can't write/delete files on the sub folders ... any help ? ^ ^
[07:16] <somsip> SpeendaSh: paste the section from the conf that relates to the share
[07:16] <somsip> !paste | SpeendaSh
[07:16] <SpeendaSh> somsip,  Ok (:
[07:17] <SpeendaSh> ubottu,  oh ok i'm going to do just tha
[07:17] <SpeendaSh> lol
[07:17] <SpeendaSh> (shame on me x: )
[07:18] <SpeendaSh> somsip,  there you go : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7773832/
[07:18] <ChaosZen> Unable to bind port 23, even using sudo. Any help or suggestions?
[07:18] <somsip> SpeendaSh: which is the share in question?
[07:19] <CharlesIC> how do i get serial number of hard drive in ubuntu?
[07:19] <SpeendaSh> somsip,  the folder you mean ?
[07:19] <SpindizZzy> hi all :)
[07:19] <somsip> SpeendaSh: no, the share. The one you want to read/write remotely
[07:19] <SpindizZzy> problem on Zentyalserver: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:20] <SpindizZzy> ubuntu-based, so looking for help here (too) :)
[07:20] <SpeendaSh> somsip,  oh right it's :"mediatheque virtuel" and "Telechargement" odly only sub folders don't work the main is totally writable...
[07:21] <somsip> SpindizZzy: not supported here.
[07:21] <somsip> SpeendaSh: what permissions are different in the sub folders compared to the main folder?
[07:22] <somsip> SpeendaSh: and I'd suggest that browseable should be on
[07:22] <SpeendaSh> somsip, in the sub folder i can't copy and paste a file on them  and i can't delete it either, on the main folder i can creat i file, copy and paste a fail in it and delete files that are on the main folders
[07:23] <SpeendaSh> somsip,  oh ok i'll edit this
[07:23] <SpindizZzy> somsip, roger that, thx :)
[07:24] <somsip> SpeendaSh: so what permissions are different on the sub-folder compared to the main folder?
[07:25] <SpeendaSh> somsip, yes so like i was telling you it seems that in the sub folders i can't write nor delete anything whereas in the main folder i can do all that oddly...
[07:25] <SpeendaSh> sorry !
[07:25] <somsip> SpeendaSh: you;re telling me what it does, which I understand. I'm asking you want the permissions are.
[07:25] <SpeendaSh> somsip,  oh sorry i didn't got that i need to check on each folders the permission right ?
[07:26] <SpeendaSh> somsip,  right clikc on the folder properties ?
[07:26] <samin> how to add animation
[07:27] <LeBlaaanc> hey guys i'm having trouble with rsnapshot, specifically it's include_file option... here's what's in my file
[07:27] <LeBlaaanc> http://pastie.org/private/6h6ttb2rmuuypbo2pluzg
[07:28] <LeBlaaanc> rsnapshot takes the snapshot but it's just empty, so I pressume it's not matching anything
[07:29] <SpeendaSh> somsip,  well it looks like the difference between the main and sub folders is that the main the owner is me (SpeendaSh) and in the sub folders it's nobody and all the permission are set the same (write and read)
[07:30] <ChaosZen> Is there a way to check a specific port to find why it's unavailable or unable to bind?
[07:32] <SpeendaSh> somsip_,  nevermind i got it ! thanks very much it was just a problem of permision ! you gave me the right hint lol thanks (:
[07:32] <somsip_> SpeendaSh: ok - cool
[07:36] <ChaosZen> Is my text muted or something?
[07:36] <somsip_> !patience | ChaosZen
[07:37] <Skwallinux92> chaoszen: locally or remotly
[07:37] <Skwallinux92> ?
[07:37] <ChaosZen> Ok, was just curious. New here and my text looks pale. Wasn't sure if it was XChat default for "self" or something else.
[07:37] <ChaosZen>  Actually, the mesage "Unable to bind port 23" comes up in the host application.
[07:38] <ChaosZen> Running it with sudo.
[07:38] <Skwallinux92> sudo netstat -taupen | grep "23"
[07:39] <ChaosZen> Hmmm, ok. Thanks. Nothing showing on 23 though.
[07:40] <Skwallinux92> try also => lsof -i | grep 23; which services are you trying to launch ?
[07:41] <ChaosZen> Still nothing showing. Trying to run a telnet BBS.
[07:42] <Skwallinux92> past your command here plz
[07:43] <Skwallinux92> are you trying to launch the server or client ?
[07:44] <ChaosZen> Server. Client can run without listening to ports.
[07:45] <ChaosZen> Only thing I could think of was that binding ports below 1024 requires sudo or root. but tried that and still no luck.
[07:45] <Skwallinux92> have you look what you're log say ?
[07:46] <Arceye> can anyone tell me why my ubuntu box cannot ping any computer on my network by name ( it requires the ip address )
[07:46] <ChaosZen> Which logs?
[07:46] <paca_paca> anyone know how to open an ssh window like i have from my pc to server a, and use it as a middleman to server b?
[07:48] <Skwallinux92> something in you're syslog maybe ?
[07:50] <ChaosZen> I'm still a noob, not sure where to find that at.
[07:51] <Skwallinux92> try to launch again and past the result of tail /var/log/syslog
[07:57] <ChaosZen> It's not showing up in syslog at all.
[07:57] <dilyan_bg> test
[07:59] <pds_> hi ladies and gentlemen i'm trying to kickstart a ubuntu server 14.04 LTS with a ubuntu desktop 12.04LTS, following this tutorial http://digitalsanctum.com/2013/03/22/how-to-setup-a-pxe-server-on-ubuntu/ using this kickstart file i create with the gui (http://paste.ubuntu.com/7773935/). It boots up just fine but it doesn't seem to want to automate.
[08:04] <root-user> Hey guys, anybody free to help me out with an unbootable ubuntu-server machine?
[08:06] <root-user> Hey guys, anybody free to help me out with an unbootable ubuntu-server machine?
[08:06] <bcvery> !patience | root-user, you may want to post some details and also try in #ubuntu-server
[08:08] <SpindizZzy> looking for a link to libstdc++
[08:08] <SpindizZzy> (to download from terminal)
[08:08] <user01> Hello
[08:09] <bcvery> !info libstdc++ | SpindizZzy
[08:09] <Guest88698> Hi there...
[08:09] <bcvery> Guest88698, Hi, please ask your Ubuntu support question
[08:09] <Guest88698> i've been running around 1hour trying to replicate what i once did with a click under Pclos...
[08:09] <Guest88698> to make it display my Windows Desktop
[08:10] <Guest88698> i am under Ubuntu 14.04 and i can't find a way to do it
[08:10] <Guest88698> been modifiying de .config right files
[08:10] <Guest88698> under sudo
[08:10] <Guest88698> but nothing happens at tnext boot
[08:11] <Guest88698> /mnt/windows/Documents and Settings/ad/Desktop/
[08:11] <Guest88698> sudo gedit ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[08:12] <Guest88698> am i in the right place ?
[08:13] <SpindizZzy> thx, bcvery and ubottu
[08:13] <SpindizZzy> :)
[08:17] <djQuery> is there a way to move the launcher bar to the right hand side instead of the left?
[08:20] <djQuery> nm
[08:21] <f3lix> I'm having a strange problem with a downloaded tarball of M/Monit. It has two binaries in it, mmonit and sqlite3, both of which fail to run with bash stating, "-bash: bin/mmonit: No such file or directory". What could cause this?
[08:21] <f3lix> They're both executable (ELFs), and user has full permissions
[08:23] <samin> how to speed ubuntu 14.04?
[08:23] <samin> speed up performances<<<
[08:23] <ikonia> samin: what is not performing well ?
[08:24] <samin> slow while opening programs..
[08:24] <ikonia> which ones ?
[08:24] <ikonia> is it slow to process, or visually slow
[08:24] <samin> like open firefox
[08:24] <ikonia> it's slow to open firefox, or slow to use firefox
[08:25] <samin> slow to open firefox..
[08:25] <ikonia> samin: just firefox or all programs
[08:25] <samin> seems all programs actually
[08:26] <samin> i install preload....and thats happened
[08:26] <ikonia> once the programs are open, do they performn ok, and do they move around the desktop (dragging the windows) ok
[08:27] <samin> the program perform ok...
[08:27] <ikonia> so it sounds like it's the initial reading of the program from disk and putting that into ram
[08:28] <ikonia> from the symptoms you describe
[08:28] <ikonia> how much ram do you have in your machine ?
[08:28] <samin> 2gb DDR2
[08:28] <ikonia> what type of hard disk do you run in there eg: 7200rpm sata disk
[08:29] <ikonia> (if you know)
[08:29] <ikonia> or is this a laptop ?
[08:29] <samin> yups sata 7200rpm 500gb western digital
[08:29] <ikonia> ok, could you please define "slow" how slow is "slow"
[08:29] <samin> i run on desktop...
[08:30] <samin> ok, i want to open eg: firefox...it should be faster right?..it took 30 sec to start
[08:30] <samin> is it normal?..
[08:30] <ikonia> really 30 seconds, that does sound a lot
[08:31] <samin> thats why..im kinda weird tho
[08:31] <ikonia> samin: do you know how to use a pastebin ?
[08:31] <samin> sadly i don't..sorry
[08:31] <ikonia> no problem, go to pastebin.ubuntu.com and put the output of the following commands I give you into it
[08:31] <ikonia> then paste me the link of the paste when you press submit
[08:32] <samin> ok i try
[08:32] <nos09> clear
[08:32] <ikonia> put the output of the following commands into the pastebin please "uname -a" "free -m" -swapon -s"
[08:32] <nos09> opps sorry though it was term
[08:33] <pijacasse>  bonjour
[08:33] <Sunstream> so lubuntu wont play midi files
[08:33] <Sunstream> ?
[08:33] <ikonia> Sunstream: should play it just fine if you have a midi application on the host
[08:34] <Sunstream> ikonia, I don't know why they need a "midi plugin"
[08:34] <ikonia> to play midi
[08:34] <ikonia> thats why
[08:34] <Sunstream> ikonia, rather why it did not come with it
[08:34] <ikonia> because applications can be modular
[08:34] <ikonia> so you install the module you need
[08:35] <Sunstream> nods
[08:35] <gry> :-)
[08:35] <ikonia> Sunstream: if it came with the midiplugin people would be saying "few people use midi these days, why does it come with this useless plugin by default"
[08:35]  * Sunstream shakes his head.
[08:35] <ikonia> it seems more logical to install what you need, rather than remove what you don't from some perspectives
[08:36] <hebz0rl> hi im running 14.04amd64 on a server and im getting this error in syslog 'BUG: soft lockup - CPU#4 stuck for 23s! [cron:1136]' followed by a kernel stacktrace http://pastebin.com/eZVB8ru0. everything seems to work (ssh, nbd-server) but the dhcp server istn answering requests anymore i also cant kill the cron process specified in the message. do i need to reboot the machine or is there another way to "unstuck" the cpu?
[08:36] <Sunstream> ikonia, well I am doing midi plugin in the lubuntu software task and I cannot find it
[08:36] <ikonia> hebz0rl: something is holding a lock on that cpu for 24 seconds,
[08:37] <ikonia> Sunstream: what application are you using ?
[08:37] <hebz0rl> ikonia, maybe the cron process?
[08:37] <ikonia> Sunstream: as in what application do you want to use to play midi files
[08:37] <hebz0rl> ikonia, cron:1136
[08:37] <ikonia> hebz0rl: possibly,
[08:37] <ikonia> hebz0rl: do you have any cron jobs ?
[08:38] <hebz0rl> ikonia, ps tells me that the affinity of that process is on the right cpu but i already tried to kill that process
[08:38] <hebz0rl> ikonia, yes i do
[08:38] <Sunstream> I would like to use VLC but that is impossible, so Gnome player says my MPlayer needs a midi plugin
[08:38] <ikonia> hebz0rl: interesting, so its possible one of those jobs is locking it rather than cron it's self, eg: the job is causing cron to not let go of the cpu
[08:38] <Sunstream> I am so old school that I own a NES-001
[08:38] <ikonia> hebz0rl: it would be unusual if cron itself was doing this
[08:38] <ikonia> Sunstream: ok, so search for mplayer and look at what plugins it lists
[08:39] <hebz0rl> ikonia, yeah but a kill -s KILL should still kill cron and its subprocesses right?
[08:39] <ikonia> Sunstream: or check the mplayer site to see what plugins it needs, then search for that
[08:39] <ikonia> hebz0rl: depends on the state of it
[08:39] <ikonia> hebz0rl: I suspect the stack trace has probably hung it and the lock ont he cpu has been released
[08:40] <ikonia> I'd put a guess without looking that the stack trace is the "freeing" of the lock
[08:40] <hebz0rl> ikonia, here are some ps outputs associatet with that process: http://pastebin.com/RUDa22iQ
[08:40] <ikonia> hebz0rl: yeah defuntc
[08:40] <ikonia> defunct
[08:41] <ikonia> and it looks like cron has respawned
[08:41] <ikonia> which ties in with what I said about the stack dump propably freeing it
[08:42] <hebz0rl> ikonia, so what should i do?
[08:42] <ikonia> hebz0rl: in what respect ?
[08:42] <hebz0rl> ikonia, so resolve the lockup
[08:42] <hebz0rl> -s +t
[08:42] <ikonia> hebz0rl: it's already been free'd I believe
[08:43] <ikonia> that's what the stackdump is
[08:43] <ikonia> the release and "dump" of the program holding it open
[08:43] <hebz0rl> hmh but i still get messages and stacktraces in syslog :/
[08:43] <ikonia> hebz0rl: what messages are you getting in the syslog ?
[08:43] <hebz0rl> mom
[08:44] <ikonia> hebz0rl: use a pastebin if it's a few lines long
[08:44] <hebz0rl> yeah
[08:45] <hebz0rl> ikonia, this one is from a few minutes ago http://pastebin.com/3T6AHNU6
[08:45] <ikonia> hebz0rl: ok, so cron is respawning it and re-locking it
[08:45] <ikonia> hebz0rl: disable your cron jobs
[08:46] <ikonia> look at the pid it's complaining about, it's the new pid of your cron process
[08:46] <hebz0rl> ikonia, isnt that the same pid as before?
[08:47] <Sunstream> Gee I am on the site and I cannoot find it under downloads but
[08:47] <hebz0rl> so it should be the same process
[08:47] <ikonia> I don't know, looking at the paste you said earlier it looked like cron had re-spawned
[08:47] <hebz0rl> which i coudnt kill
[08:47] <ikonia> either way, it doesn't matter,
[08:47] <Sunstream> I will see once installed if I can get it within the app
[08:47] <ikonia> its the cron process
[08:47] <hebz0rl> ok i disabled my cron entries (service cron stop didnt work)
[08:48] <ikonia> hebz0rl: be patient
[08:48] <Sunstream> Linux is not for the "feint of heart"
[08:48] <ikonia> see what happens
[08:48] <ikonia> hebz0rl: see if now it's not trying to run any jobs it cleans itself up
[08:49] <Sunstream> ikonia, I was user until 8 then I had XP on an old laptop and I just killed the O/S after grabbing what I wanted off it, and redid the system first as unity but now lubuntu and Its fun trying to fix things
[08:50] <xubuntu> Hello
[08:50] <Guest57802> I think I messed up my xconfig or something
[08:50] <ikonia> Sunstream: not sure how thats relevent
[08:50] <hebz0rl> ikonia, hmh still getting lockups in syslog (and the service cron stop process is now stuck too :D)
[08:51] <ikonia> hebz0rl: how did you disable the cron jobs
[08:51] <Guest57802> I am using XFCE. When I try to login, there is a black screen and it brings me back to the login screen. This problem was caused because I installed and then removed KDE from my xubuntu.
[08:51] <hebz0rl> ikonia, i commented them out in the cron files
[08:51] <Sunstream> it isnt it was a random comment, sorry all I wanted to say was linux is not for the feint of heart.
[08:51] <hebz0rl> ikonia, crontab -e and /etc/cron*
[08:52] <ikonia> hebz0rl: ok, so I wonder if that's not had an impact as the cron process has not hup'd
[08:52] <ylmfos> who like ubuntu
[08:52] <Guest57802> me
[08:52] <Sunstream> lesigh
[08:52] <ylmfos> Guest57802
[08:52] <ylmfos> who like ylmf os
[08:53] <ikonia> ylmfos: hi, this channel is for ubuntu support discussion
[08:53] <ikonia> ylmfos: if you could please try to keep the topic to that, it would be most appreciated
[08:53] <Guest57802> yeah, please support me
[08:53] <ylmfos> ubuntu is cool
[08:53] <Guest57802> I am using XFCE. When I try to login, there is a black screen and it brings me back to the login screen. This problem was caused because I installed and then removed KDE from my xubuntu.
[08:53] <ikonia> hebz0rl: is this a production machine or can you reboot it with ease ?
[08:53] <hebz0rl> ikonia, production
[08:54] <ikonia> hebz0rl: so if you do "kill -9" against the cron process, does it just ignore it
[08:54] <hebz0rl> ikonia, kill -9 (KILL)
[08:54] <ylmfos> kill all
[08:54] <ikonia> hebz0rl: what do you mean ?
[08:55] <icedwater> Guest57802: hmm. Do you get to select which environment you're logging into?
[08:55] <hebz0rl> ikonia, i switched to the failover dhcp server so that the clients can still boot and hopefully nothing breaks until the evening
[08:55] <ylmfos> kill all
[08:55] <hebz0rl> ikonia, i sent it the KILL (9) signal
[08:55] <ikonia> ylmfos: please stop
[08:55] <ikonia> hebz0rl: and what happened ?
[08:55] <ylmfos> no kill all
[08:55] <Guest57802> just kick ylmfos
[08:55] <icedwater> ylmfos: please chat on #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:55] <hebz0rl> ikonia, its ignoring the signal
[08:55] <ikonia> hebz0rl: that's not good then,
[08:55] <hebz0rl> ikonia, yeah :d
[08:56] <ikonia> hebz0rl: are you still getting the lockup warnings ?
[08:56] <hebz0rl> ikonia, so rebooting seems like a good option?
[08:56] <hebz0rl> ikonia, yeah
[08:56] <ikonia> sadly yes
[08:56] <hebz0rl> ikonia, very frequently ~20sek
[08:56] <annihilator009> what is udo?
[08:56] <Guest57802> super user do = sudo
[08:57] <Guest57802> It gives root access
[08:57] <annihilator009> what is udo?
[08:57] <Guest57802> nothing, as far as I know
[08:57] <hebz0rl> ikonia, any idea what could cause the problem?
[08:57] <annihilator009> sudo grep pcspkr /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*
[08:58] <ikonia> hebz0rl: my guess would be one of your cronscripts not exiting properly or calling something thats "bad", it would be unusual for it to be cron. The only thing I can think of that is cron would be time, if your time is drifting it can get cron stuck in a loop
[08:58] <Guest57802> ikonia, pls help, my problem is minor I suppose
[08:58] <ikonia> Guest57802: sorry, I've no idea what you've done, I've not been following
[08:58] <Guest57802> My x session wont start
[08:59] <Guest57802> I am using xfce
[08:59] <edition> check the config? i may be wrong
[08:59] <Guest57802> When I login from the login manager, it gives a black screen and then returns to the login
[08:59] <annihilator009> what will happen if i do:  sudo grep pcspkr
[08:59] <ikonia> annihilator009: nothing
[08:59] <edition> grep requires input
[08:59] <Guest57802> what config? xinitrc?
[08:59] <ikonia> Guest57802: is this ubuntu that you've installed xfce on, or xubuntu
[08:59] <annihilator009> how do i turn on beep in terminal
[08:59] <annihilator009> ?
[09:00] <edition> i have xubuntu
[09:00] <Guest57802> ikonia, xubuntu with xfce. The problem arised when I installed KDE and then removed it.
[09:00] <edition> which version do you have?
[09:00] <ikonia> edition: I'm asking Guest57802, that's why I said his name at the start
[09:00] <edition> sorry.
[09:00] <annihilator009> how do i turn on beep in terminal/
[09:00] <annihilator009> ?
[09:00] <ikonia> Guest57802: you should have a file called xsession-errors
[09:00] <edition> ^G
[09:00] <ikonia> failing
[09:00] <Guest57802> ikonia, in /var/log?
[09:00] <hebz0rl> ikonia, hmh but the machine worked for months until now
[09:00] <ikonia> Guest57802: check out that to get a clue of what's filing
[09:00] <ikonia> Guest57802: normally your home dir
[09:00] <ikonia> hebz0rl: that is odd then
[09:01] <dragos> kill all
[09:01] <annihilator009> ikonia: how do i turn on beep in terminal?
[09:01] <ikonia> annihilator009: ask the channel
[09:01] <annihilator009>  how do i turn on beep in terminal?
[09:01] <ikonia> hebz0rl: try running it for a while without the cronjobs enabled, monitor it, then re-enable them
[09:01] <hebz0rl> ikonia, will do thx for your help!
[09:01] <ikonia> hebz0rl: no problem, looks an interesting situation
[09:02] <ikonia> hebz0rl: monitor your clock though if it's cron releated
[09:02] <annihilator009>  how do i turn on beep in terminal?
[09:02] <ikonia> hebz0rl: clock sync/time is always key with cron
[09:02] <Guest57802> ikonia, xfce4-session: Unable to access file /home/username/.ICEauthority: Permission denied
[09:02] <ikonia> Guest57802: there we go, you did something as "root" in X11 and it's messed up the permissions on that file
[09:02] <ikonia> Guest57802: remove that file and let it get recreated
[09:02]  * Sunstream gives up for now
[09:02] <Guest57802> ikonia, remove x session erros file?
[09:03] <ikonia> Guest57802: no, the .ICRauthority
[09:03] <ikonia> sorry, typo
[09:03] <hebz0rl> ikonia, yeah the clock seems quite stable but i will look into it
[09:03] <Guest57802> ikonia, okay I will get back to you when I do it
[09:03] <ikonia> hebz0rl: keep an eye on it
[09:05] <annihilator009> beep
[09:08] <BabooFei> what?
[09:09] <BabooFei> Is this room just EMPTY?
[09:09] <BabooFei> anyone speaking?
[09:09] <annihilator009> yes?
[09:09] <xubuntu_> ikonia, I deleted the file but I still have the same issue.
[09:12] <annihilator009> what is meep?
[09:13] <bcvery> !info meep > annihilator009
[09:13] <annihilator009> defqaq?
[09:13] <annihilator009> what is meep?
[09:13] <bcvery> !info meep
[09:13] <annihilator009> i asked what is it?
[09:14] <bcvery> annihilator009: "software package for FDTD simulation"
[09:14] <annihilator009> what is the use of it?
[09:14] <xubuntu_> sudo apt-get install vrms
[09:14] <xubuntu_> $ vrms
[09:15] <xubuntu_> post results
[09:15] <annihilator009> bcvery what is the use of it?
[09:15] <bcvery> annihilator009, to simulate FDTD I guess, I don't know anymore sorry
[09:16] <annihilator009> what is FDTD?
[09:17] <Cursarion> err... how easy is it to make an USB stick from which you can install ubuntu on a mac?
[09:17] <ddv> very
[09:18] <icedwater> ddv: does the garden-variety bootable usb from usb-creator-gtk work nicely?
[09:18] <ddv> no idea
[09:18] <icedwater> Or even `cat /path/to/iso > /dev/usbstick/`
[09:19] <Cursarion> ddv: is there a good help page somewhere?
[09:19] <Cursarion> I just managed to create an USB stick which wouldn't boot, but it worked in the mac
[09:19] <bcvery> !usb | Cursarion
[09:19] <Cursarion> thanks
[09:19] <bcvery> Cursarion, did you check the md5 of the ISO?
[09:22] <Cursarion> bcvery: no, I'm on a Windows atm and there's no md5 by default. -_-
[09:22] <Cursarion> ...so yeah, I'm on a Windows making an USB stick for installing Linux on Mac... :D
[09:23] <bcvery> Cursarion, how to MD5 checksum in Windows http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[09:24] <wannado> hey - I've been told not to run an elasticsearch-server as root but instead as a dedicated user. when I now start it like 'sudo /etc/init.d/elasticsearch start' - do I start it as root? All processes seem to be run under the username 'elasticsearch' though - I'm confused...
[09:27] <mulga_> ./gnight alll
[09:30] <Roukh> Does anyone know what kind of risk I would take if I increase the frequency of my processor?
[09:31] <somsip> Roukh: you need an overclocking channel
[09:31] <bazhang> Roukh, try ##hardware for that
[09:31] <somsip> !alis | Roukh
[09:31] <Roukh> oh ok sorry
[09:34] <Cursarion> yah, md5 is right, but I actually could have the 64bit image...
[09:35] <icedwater> Anyone else have an xfreerdp problem in Ubuntu where the Enter key somehow toggles Show on All Workspaces?
[09:35] <icedwater> I thought it was a Unity issue, but apparently in Openbox it happens as well.
[09:37] <RahulAN> #qt
[09:44] <anonkun> Hello
[09:44] <anonkun> Ikonia?
[09:46] <ikonia> anonkun: yes ?
[09:46] <anonkun> I deleted the ICEauthority file, but I still suffer from the same issue
[09:46] <anonkun> however, I can login from another account I have on the same pc
[09:46] <anonkun> Which means this is a user specific issue
[09:46] <ikonia> anonkun: oh, what does the xsessions-errors say ?
[09:47] <inerkick> Hi I got error with virtualenv and pip installation . tried most of uninstall and install stuff. can any help help me  install it properly by cleaning previous installation
[09:47] <gry> inerkick, hi.
[09:47] <inerkick> hi Gry
[09:47] <inerkick> hi gry
[09:47] <anonkun> ikonia, openConnection: connect: No such file or directory
[09:47] <anonkun> cannot connect to brltty at :0
[09:47] <anonkun> Script for none started at run_im.
[09:47] <anonkun> Script for auto started at run_im.
[09:47] <anonkun> Script for default started at run_im.
[09:48] <ikonia> that suggests the display is not running on 0:0 (which I assume it is)
[09:48] <ikonia> anonkun: just delete your config files and let new ones be created
[09:48] <gry> inerkick, I believe ``python-virtualenv'' and ``python-pip'' are the packages you need.
[09:49] <anonkun> ikonia, Just the x files or even the bash_histroy and stuff?
[09:49] <inerkick> i did install with sudo pip even synpatic package manager. but nothing is helping
[09:49] <ikonia> anonkun: nah, just the config files
[09:49] <anonkun> ok
[09:49] <anonkun> brb
[09:49] <inerkick> even posted in launchpad ubuntu https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/251449 but no proper response
[09:50] <tevin_> easy_install python-pip
[09:50] <inerkick> gry and issue still continues
[09:50] <Anonkun> Ikonia, it worked :D
[09:50] <gry> inerkick, what is the issue?
[09:50] <lemonsparrow> hi can anyone help me with this https://gist.github.com/mithunsasidharan/bf5de6ad885de8ebbd54 I am invoking script 2 from script 1 and passing an argument to script 2 in line 6 of script 2 I am trying to interpolate the argument between string.. how to do it ?
[09:51] <Anonkun> Ikonia, although I have another issue. Everytime I log in as this user, terminal and the notes app keeps popping up
[09:51] <inerkick> don't know, but can't install sometimes missing sitepackages and sometimes dist-packages. some say pip broken
[09:51] <ikonia> Anonkun: even after you deleted your config files
[09:52] <Anonkun> Yes, I think it has to do with xfce though, nothing with x server
[09:52] <ikonia> Anonkun: look at what the autostart setup for xfce is (I don't know it off the top of my head)
[09:53] <Anonkun> ikonia, cool I can fix this issue on my own though, thanks for the help with X
[09:53] <inerkick> even yesterday this channel directed me to python and python back to here. and no response in her
[09:54] <Anonkun> inerkick, what happened?
[09:56] <inerkick> virtualenv isn't working Anonkun
[09:56] <inerkick> some problem with pip or it's broken or virtualenv package itsel
[09:57] <issam_> hay
[09:57] <inerkick> you can check the link to find what is happening so far Anonkun sudo pip install --upgrade requests
[09:57] <inerkick> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/251449
[09:58] <pds_> !pxe | pds_
[10:13] <marius0000> hi, I cannot connect to a wifi network. Until yesterday I was able to connect to the same network, but something happened. I reset the connection, rebooted but I'm still unable to connect. Any idea what should do?
[10:14] <inerkick> hi
[10:15] <skrydal> Hello
[10:16] <inerkick> could you help skrydal
[10:17] <skrydal> inerkick
[10:18] <skrydal> I will try but when you come back later. I need to go work i n2 min
[10:18] <quimoniz> marius0000: In case of that it is a usb-wifi-antenna, it helped me a few times, to plug it out and in again. 'though, since you have rebooted that is not very likely the cause. Unfortunately I don't what else could help in that situation
[10:25] <inerkick>  I get this error while try to install virtualenv http://paste.ubuntu.com/7774449/ kindly help
[10:40] <randomsom> i feel like such a nerd coming here
[10:41] <loa> hello
[10:42] <loa> how i can move game window from one monitor to another?
[10:42] <loa> for example dota 2
[10:43] <loa> i have now steam window on old monitor and want game client on new monitor?
[10:43] <bcvery> loa, what DE?
[10:43] <loa> unity
[10:44] <loa> default ubuntu 14.04
[10:44] <illusions> do you have your display settings at mirror?
[10:44] <bcvery> loa, hmm, ok, Compiz (IIRC) has a shortcut to move a window between monitors, or you could try Alt+F7 then move it
[10:45] <loa> what shortcut?
[10:45] <bcvery> loa, check this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141752/keyboard-shortcut-to-move-windows-between-monitors
[10:45] <loa> illusions, no i see that i have different space on each monitor.
[10:46] <raspi-user> hi, mby u can help me. I have problems accessing RaspberryPI's GPIO from an python/django app. I know that there is an security model to prevent access from normal user to hardware. But what possibilities do I have to access /dev/mem without sudo.
[10:48] <k1l> raspi-user: since ubuntu doesnt run on raspi please ask the specialized distro you run on that.
[10:49] <raspi-user>  /join #raspbian
[11:00] <calzifer> hi, on a ubuntu machine, can i just install kubuntu-desktop alongside, or do i have to do something else?
[11:03] <pulkit> I am trtying with google OpenID and kind of stuck at a place can you quickly help me
[11:05] <bcvery> calzifer, Yes, you can just download it and have both on your machine
[11:05] <bcvery> !details | pulkit, you're trying what?
[11:05] <calzifer> bcvery: the last time i installed unity/ubuntu-desktop on a kubuntu machine, unity looked very strange and the themes was broken
[11:07] <bcvery> calzifer, in theory you should be able to, I have heard of some DEs messing about with themes (etc).  Sorry I won't be able to give you a better answer than my hypothetical one
[11:07] <jess44> hi
[11:18] <calzifer> bcvery: thank you anyway
[11:28] <steamlite13> hi
[11:28] <jess44> hi
[11:28] <jess44> how r u?
[11:29] <jpds> !cracking | jess44
[11:30] <teilrendering> hi, i m experiencing a strange error when using the ubuntu terminal/shell app from unity: when doing a curl post --> the terminal window closes
[11:30] <teilrendering> what could the reasons be ?
[12:03] <shylent> hello, what could be the problem here? I am using lxc on ubuntu 12.04, the container is created just fine, I enter it via lxc-console and everything basically works. Then I copy some binaries to it and upon trying to run them (x-bit is there for the relevant user) get "No such file or directory". But the file is clearly *there*
[12:03] <shylent> when I install things inside the container via apt-get, *those* things work
[12:03] <shylent> but not my binaries
[12:04] <alokj_> shylent: your binaries might not be in $PATH
[12:04] <shylent> no, I run them via an absolute path
[12:05] <alokj_> try putting them under /usr/local/bin instead
[12:05] <shylent> alokj_: how will this help?
[12:05] <alokj_> > echo $PATH
[12:05] <alokj_> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games
[12:06] <alokj_> it should by default be present under all shells (mostly)
[12:07] <shylent> alokj_: as I've already said, I am running the binary via an absolute path. PATH is of no relevance here. Anyway, I've tried what you said, it did not work
[12:07] <alokj_> hmm
[12:12] <Jessica_> Hi, I am an Ubuntu nookie and have one simple question which is bugging me for 30 min already. How can I type the superscript asterisk sign on Ubuntu command line Shift + 8 just gives me a normal asterisk
[12:13] <Jessica_> am trying to type this command into the command line: rm -f /home/jessica/.Xauthority.*      my problem is the superscript star sign
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> Jessica_  on my azerty keyboard it's: shift $
[12:16] <k1l> Jessica_: which keyboard layout do you use?
[12:16] <tdn> I have set up duplicity to backup my server to another server via SFTP. So now I have saved the encryption passphrase that I stated, however, is this enough to recover? Or do I also need to have a separate backup of the GPG keys? If so, how is the best way of doing that? Or is it enough to remember my passphrase?
[12:17] <Abhijit> Jessica_, * just a *? i ddint knew there are subscript and superscript forms of it?
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> Jessica_  here too, there's no difference between the two asterisks
[12:18] <k1l> Jessica_: its just a asterisk. its shift+"+" on my keyboard. and that works fine on bash/dash/sh,..
[12:19] <Jessica_> I have a normal US english keyboard
[12:19] <philinux> Jessica_;~ shift 8 then I reckon
[12:19] <philinux> *****
[12:19] <Jessica_> in the ubuntu login console if i type asterisk (shift + 8) it turns  into an asterisk in normal formating, not superscript
[12:20] <philinux> Jessica_;~ should work just fine
[12:20] <Abhijit> :-(
[12:20] <Jessica_> i need to type this command into the ubuntu login terminal: rm -f /home/jessica/.Xauthority.*
[12:20] <Abhijit> Jessica_, the * in your command is just a regular * nothing out of the world.
[12:20] <Jessica_> you see the superscript asterisk?
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> Jessica_  yes, that's a normal asterisk
[12:21] <dino82> It means you're a **superstar**
[12:21] <Abhijit> like this .Xauthority.* Jessica_
[12:21]  * Abhijit hides the subscript * from Jessica_ 
[12:21]  * Abhijit cant
[12:22] <Jessica_> Abhijit: i don't understand your instruction
[12:22] <philinux> Jessica_;~ should be Xauthority* not .*
[12:22] <k1l> Jessica_: there is no difference in a superscript or a regular asterisk
[12:23] <Jessica_> Philinux: ok, so how do i get the superscript asterisk
[12:23] <k1l> Jessica_: just try the regular asterisk
[12:23] <k1l> Jessica_: you dont need to
[12:23] <Jessica_> ok
[12:23] <philinux> Jessica_;~ try locate Xauthority* thats a shift 8 one
[12:23] <Jessica_> one moment
[12:23] <hron85> Hi! Can anyone help me with joining a 14.04 server into the AD? I successfully joined the server, wbinfo -u and wbinfo -g works correctly. getent passwd $USERNAME works correctly, however the getent passwd does not lists any windows user.
[12:24] <Jessica_> I have issues since this morning with booting ubuntu (i had  a power failure and it seems all .xauth files are corrupted)
[12:24] <hron85> I do not know it is related or not, but sshd says initgroups: invalid argument when i try to log in into the server with my windows account
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> hron85  better aks in #ubuntu-server
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> *ask
[12:24] <hron85> MonkeyDust: ok
[12:25] <Abhijit> hron85, whats AD?
[12:25] <dino82> active directory I assume
[12:26] <hron85> Abhijit: win2k8 r2
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> what's win2k8 r2?
[12:26] <Abhijit> exactly.
[12:26] <hron85> the AD's level is at win2k8 r2
[12:27] <dino82> windows 2008 R2
[12:27] <dino82> windows server* that is
[12:27] <philinux> Jessica_;~ http://askubuntu.com/questions/299127/why-do-i-have-so-many-xauthority-files-in-my-home-directory
[12:38] <dennis_> aha？
[12:38] <dennis_> this i s a test?
[12:38] <svetlana> dennis_: hi, it appears to work.
[12:39] <dennis_> yeah ,so great tool
[12:39] <Energy_> shoah nanas, sho sho sho ananas !!! If you take me by the shoah, i take you by ananas !!! :-)
[12:41] <k1l> Energy_: i think you already know the !guidelines so please stick to them in the ubuntu channels
[12:41] <Energy_> you think bad. i know nothing.
[12:42] <k1l> !guidelines > Energy_
[12:42] <svetlana> Energy_: /msg
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> Energy_  are you a bot? who is the president of the usa?
[12:43] <svetlana> not a bot
[12:43] <Energy_> obama and michel obama who suck dick of hitler :-)
[12:48] <uffs> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/59331
[12:49] <uffs> is this problem still present in latest ubuntu version?
[12:49] <uffs> it seems like that's what occurs to me when i am trying to use amazon web services
[12:49] <uffs> at least following this post http://scie.nti.st/2008/3/14/amazon-s3-and-connection-reset-by-peer/
[12:49] <uffs> although it doesn't work for me
[12:49] <uffs> (ie the proposed solution)
[12:50] <uffs> i get either socket.error: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer or socket.error: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
[12:50] <uffs> with different values set to those flags
[12:50] <uffs> whenever i try to run git aws.push
[12:51] <ToKaTa> sup
[12:52] <k1l> uffs: well, that was linux kernel 2.6 in 2006. we acutally use linux kernel 3.13 in ubuntu 14.04 so there did change a lot.
[12:52] <uffs> k1l:
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> uffs  try to keep your questions in one line, it's easier to read and repeat
[12:52] <uffs> ok, so it turns out it has nothing to do with this
[12:53] <uffs> good point
[12:53] <k1l> uffs: if a ssh connection fails i would first look what ssh error occours before thinking its some hardware or driver issue
[12:55] <uffs> so i am trying to use amazon web services (amazon beanstalk, to be precise); it cannot push my repo to the server: it fails with 'socket.error: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer'; i tried to push the very first commit (very small) alone, which succeeded, but the push still doesn't work for any other commit
[12:55] <uffs> so i suspect some sort of network problem
[13:09] <Bladesfist> Hello, I seem to have broken the MOTD while disabling password authentication. For some reason I am no longer presented with that message when connecting via an ssh key? Anyone have any idea to what I have borked?
[13:10] <aggn> hello! I recently bought a new thinkpad x1 carbon and it's adaptive keyboard isn't working under ubuntu. however I found the following fix for this, which seems to work: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1309609 << how can I apply this fix to my system? unfortunately I don't know where to start.
[13:11] <svetlana> aggn: you would have to re-compile the kernel (or you can wait for someone to package it properly for you)
[13:14] <aggn> ok thank you svetlana, i thought there was an easier way. Will try that then.
[13:15] <svetlana> i expect it to be a not very long wait, but someone else needs to give you more details on the timing and plans
[13:15] <touki> does grub 2.02 has root and kernel command
[13:15] <cfhowlett> !grub|touki
[13:19] <Bladesfist> Does usePAM in sshd_config have something to do with the MOTD? Anyway to get it to display with it set to no?
[13:24] <hebz0rl> ikonia, you remember my problem with the lockup? now the server isnt reacting to tcp connections :/ so i think its time to reboot the system
[13:26] <ikonia> hebz0rl: looks that way
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> brb
[13:29] <blz> Hello, does anybody know how effective the realtime kernel is with respect to audio?  I've heard rumors that ALSA is a huge mess and that low-latency/real-time audio output was damn-near impossible in Linux (or at least in Ubuntu).  Does anybody have any experience in these matters?
[13:29] <Bladesfist> Ah yes it seems that it does. usePAM = yes gives me a MOTD on login and usePAM = no does not, weird
[13:37] <erobinson> Hi guys, Welcome Back Rob!
[13:43] <Bladesfist> Is setting usePAM = no in sshd_config disabling MOTD expected behaviour?
[13:45] <ldiamond> My memory usage is currently reported at 2GB. In a few days it'll be ~9-10GB cause I'll have a whole bunch of things running. However, even if I close everything, the memory usage won't drop below ~5-6GB. Memory leak?
[13:46] <Pici> Bladesfist: I'd expect so, since the default motd is generated via pam_motd.  I'd expect an MOTD to display if you had a /etc/motd with stuff in it.
[13:46] <Joel> Anyone know of a doc that discusses removing a bad package from a repository you control?
[13:46] <Pici> Bladesfist: see /etc/pam.d/login for the pam_motd stuff
[13:46] <Joel> I pulled it from Packages/Packages.gz but now I'm getting Hash Sum mismatch
[13:46] <loctauxphilippe> Ldiamond : don't forget the swap...
[13:47] <loctauxphilippe> Ldiamond : sudo swapoff /dev/...
[13:47] <ldiamond> loctauxphilippe, you mean cache?
[13:47] <loctauxphilippe> Ldiamond Yep!
[13:47] <ldiamond> loctauxphilippe, yea I'm talking about memory actually used, not the cache.
[13:47] <loctauxphilippe> Ldiamond : then, sudo swapon/dev/...
[13:47] <loctauxphilippe> Oh!
[13:47] <loctauxphilippe> Sorry...
[13:50] <Bladesfist> Pici: Thanks, am I right in assuming that the PAM Motd has nothing to do with the printmotd option as well seeing as that was disabled as well? I guess that comes from the /etc/motd
[13:50] <linux-newbie> hi, I have problems with an eye toy (for PS2) and dont know if it is an hardware issue http://pastebin.com/WHsNwKM9
[13:52] <mema> ls
[13:53] <user123321> what's the avg RAM usage of a fresh Ubuntu install?
[13:55] <TJ-> linux-newbie: Which Ubuntu version and architecture are you using?
[13:55] <cfhowlett> user123321 completely depends on what the user is doing, doesn't it?
[13:56] <linux-newbie> TJ-, sry. ubuntu 13.10,  3.11.0-24-generic, 64bit
[13:56] <Pici> Bladesfist: I'd guess that as well.
[13:57] <helmut_> hi
[13:58] <TJ-> linux-newbie: Testing on Trusty 64-bit with kernel v3.14, eyetoy 054c:0154 works. It's possible there's an issue with the :0155 model you have there
[13:59] <linux-newbie> TJ-, with :0155 model you mean the eye toy model?
[13:59] <TJ-> linux-newbie: Yes, that is what is shown in your pastebin from the kernel log
[14:00] <TJ-> linux-newbie: although, I also notice your PC is using the USB 3 xhci_hcd driver, .... I found this quote that might solve it for you: "Not a software bug as such, turned out to be the Intel xHCI mode setting in the bios for USB for my Asus Z87M-PLUS motherboard. Default setting was Smart Mode. This made all usb ports usb 3.0 and/or "better" than 2.0, meaning my webcmas wouldn't play nicely. Changing the bios setting to Disabled saw the camera fire up instantly ..
[14:00] <TJ-> ."
[14:00] <Bladesfist> I have a www-data account that you can't log in to normally however making a command fail with sudo -u www-data boots me into www-data. How can I stop this behaviour?
[14:01] <linux-newbie> TJ-, thanks. the eye toy was working with an older notebook
[14:01] <marvindep> j/ #clementine
[14:01] <marvindep> sorry
[14:01] <TJ-> linux-newbie: XHCI could be the issue, then
[14:02] <linux-newbie> TJ-, ty. I will try it...
[14:03] <Didithered> hi
[14:04] <user123321> Is it alright to clone an Ubuntu/LUbuntu VM in virtual box so I could run 2 servers? Or, am I supposed to install separately?
[14:05] <jamesarch> hello everyone  i want to learing build deb package ,but i dont know how to build
[14:05] <cfhowlett> !packaging|jamesarch
[14:06] <TJ-> user123321: cloning is fine if you take some precautions to avoid duplicate hostnames, and ensure each guest doesn't pin its network interface name against the MAC address via udev rules
[14:06] <IvanR_> I have a webhost running 12.04.4 LTS, and have logrotate 3.7.8, is there a way to install a newer version of logrotate?
[14:06] <jamesarch> thanks guys
[14:09] <monoxyde> i've got kernel 3.2.0-27 installed, and when i update my /boot/grub/grub.cfg and make the line say "set default="1>Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-27-generic" and run "update-grub2" why does it always revert back to "set default="1>Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-64-generic" ?
[14:10] <TJ-> user123321: For most recognised hypervisors, the udev rule "/lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules" what generates MAC <> interface pins will *ignore* known hypervisors ("VMWare, Hyper-V, KVM, Virtualbox and Xen virtual interfaces")
[14:10] <monoxyde> i guess i should mention i'm running 14.04
[14:12] <TJ-> monoxyde: "update-grub" will always make the most recent kernel version the default (top-most in the config list)
[14:12] <monoxyde> TJ-: you're incorrect, i have kernel 3.13 on the system as well
[14:12] <user123321> TJ-, I see, thanks.
[14:13] <TJ-> monoxyde: How did you install the kernels? "/etc/grub.d/10_linux" is responsible for writing the config for the regular installed kernels
[14:13] <monoxyde> apt-get
[14:14] <monoxyde> hrm... it's the /etc/default/grub file that i needed to edit
[14:15] <TJ-> monoxyde: The usual way to change the 'default' boot entry is to edit "/etc/default/grub" and alter "GRUB_DEFAULT=..." which will write the correct "set default=" line to "/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[14:15] <monoxyde> TJ i'm seeing that now :)
[14:15] <monoxyde> thank you
[14:16] <TJ-> monoxyde: see for explanation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Submenus#New_Kernel_Introduction
[14:17] <behrooz> why nautilus on ubuntu 14.04 doesn't make thumbnail video for all video format ?
[14:20] <unclescratchie> 	Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS........Precise...........browser is Chomium--------shockwave keeps CRASHING and driven me crazy.....done everything I can from other posts but to no avail.......PLEASE help me somebody !!!!
[14:21] <svetlana> Is "don't use shockware" a solution you can use? :)
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !shockwave
[14:22] <unclescratchie> ubuttu:  will check it out....thanks
[14:23] <monoxyde> are 5 lines too many to post?
[14:23] <Pici> monoxyde: yes, use a pastebin.
[14:23] <cfhowlett> monoxyde if you have to ask ...
[14:24] <monoxyde> http://pastebin.com/gsv0hjFQ
[14:24] <monoxyde> "Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the
[14:25] <monoxyde> kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed." does that mean it didn't install for 3.2.0-27 ?
[14:25] <monoxyde> i guess so....... answered my own question again..... i installed the wrong headers
[14:26] <monoxyde> nope... i've got "ii  linux-headers-3.2.0-27                3.2.0-27.43             " installed
[14:36] <exhacker> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu, I installed a few basic apps, and the networking basically quit working
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> exhacker  wifi or cable?
[14:36] <boss_of_the_boss> exhacker: and ?
[14:36] <exhacker> I can ping stuff fine but not use a browser or apt-get install
[14:36] <exhacker> MonkeyDust: cable
[14:36] <ldiamond> did you setup a proxy?
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> exhacker  if you can ping but not surf, it's a DNS issue
[14:37] <ldiamond> what do you ping? local stuff?
[14:37] <exhacker> ldiamond: I didn't mean to but maybe something did
[14:37] <exhacker> I can ping any website
[14:37] <ldiamond> via their name or ip?
[14:37] <exhacker> ldiamond: name
[14:37] <exhacker> (both)
[14:37] <Milosonator> hi, i'm suddenly dealing with the problem with my filesysttem: it has become read-only. How could this happen, how to fix it, and how to prevent this from happening? (12.04 x64)
[14:37] <ldiamond> exhacker, can you browse with links?
[14:38] <exhacker> ldiamond: idk, i'll try
[14:38] <exhacker> ldiamond: no, actually, because the links on my recent sites (new tab) page don't work
[14:38] <ldiamond> you're here on irc, on that PC?
[14:38] <exhacker> ldiamond: different computer
[14:38] <ldiamond> exhacker, "links" is a command line browser.
[14:38] <ldiamond> lynx
[14:39] <exhacker> ldiamond: ooo
[14:39] <ldiamond> depends on what you got installed
[14:39] <exhacker> ldiamond: ok i will try it
[14:39] <ldiamond> I think on ubuntu it's lynx
[14:39] <chen> w3m is good
[14:39] <exhacker> ldiamond: i know lynx, the command line web browser. it's not installed tho
[14:39] <ldiamond> w3m works too
[14:39] <ldiamond> or even curl
[14:40] <ldiamond> wget.
[14:40] <exhacker> when i do apt-get install lynx it sees it and starts to download/install but then hits an error saying Connection Failed
[14:40] <unclescratchie> ubbutu still here??
[14:40] <TJ-> exhacker: what "basic apps" did you install? Anything firewall related?
[14:40] <chen> netsurf-fb is good
[14:40] <exhacker> TJ-: no just like screen, eclipse, terminator, and chromium-browser
[14:41] <TJ-> exhacker: If you do, in a terminal, "sudo iptables-save " do you get much more than about 3 non-comment (# ...) lines?
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> unclescratchie  use /msg ubottu to talk to her
[14:41] <exhacker> TJ: it didn't do anything expect return a command prompt
[14:41] <cfhowlett> unclescratchie ubottu is a bot - and never gets a vacation
[14:41] <Pici> unclescratchie: ubottu is a bot, not a human.
[14:42] <TJ-> exhacker: hmmm, you used the "sudo" prefix ?
[14:42] <exhacker> yea
[14:42] <ldiamond> exhacker, ping and tracepath both work fine?
[14:43] <SunGuard> is there a way to use sha256sum and hash a word? ie i want to see what a password will look like when its hashed
[14:43] <exhacker> ldiamond: yes
[14:43] <ldiamond> if so it has something to do with either your browser (but apt-get also has a problem) or your firewall messing around with your TCP connections
[14:43] <user123321> Could someone advice me if this is a good way for HA and LB in Ubuntu/LUbuntu? http://www.leaseweblabs.com/2011/07/high-availability-load-balancing-using-haproxy-on-ubuntu-part-1/
[14:43] <TJ-> exhacker:  double-hmm... you should at a minimum get the default rules ACCEPT policies for the default chains in the netfilters.
[14:43] <exhacker> ldiamond i did add some apt sources
[14:44] <ldiamond> remove the apt source
[14:44] <ldiamond> check if apt works then
[14:44] <exhacker> ldimaond: ok
[14:44] <ldiamond> then it might just be your chrome config.
[14:44] <TJ-> exhacker: can you get the IP address returned for "dig +short archive.ubuntu.com"
[14:44] <exhacker> TJ: iptables --list has 3 rules
[14:44] <exhacker> TJ: yes
[14:45] <TJ-> exhacker: OK, that sounds like a basic config
[14:45] <unclescratchie> having major issue with Flash...........nothing works........downloaded the windows version of Firefox and installed with  Wine...downloaded flash.exe but when I "install with Wine"  I get a popup saying "only one instance of this application can run".......I used terminal to kill wine but I still get the same popup
[14:45] <TJ-> exhacker: OK, follow ldiamond's recommendations then - it sounds like you have a combination of corrupting the apt sources (so undo changes), and (possibly) a bad proxy configuration for the web-browser(s)
[14:46] <exhacker> ok i'm on it, thanks
[14:47] <Milosonator> seems my hard drive is kinda failing. Anyone able to make some sens out of these dmesg logs? http://textdump.net/read/5375/
[14:47] <ldiamond> Milosonator, check the smart info
[14:47] <ldiamond> on Ubuntu you can see it with the disk utility
[14:47] <Milosonator> ldiamond: im on a server.
[14:48] <ldiamond> smartmontools
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> unclescratchie  firefox is in the repos, you don't need wine for it
[14:48] <Milosonator> ldiamond: don't have it, can't install it :(
[14:48] <Lope> My ubuntu 13.10 installation is booting up into an (initramfs) prompt. Showing above that BusyBox v1.20.2 ubuntu blah built in shell (ash). what is this all about? any idea why it's not booting?
[14:48] <unclescratchie> MonkeyDust:  I know but Adobe is still crashing
[14:49] <ldiamond> Milosonator, well, it might be hard to diagnose without any control on the machine.
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> !flash | unclescratchie
[14:49] <ldiamond> Flash should die in a fire.
[14:49] <Milosonator> ldiamond: yeah, do you know how to remount it read-write?
[14:50] <ldiamond> sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/... /mnt/...
[14:51] <ldiamond> There should be a law saying that Adobe needs to remove one core feature from flash every 2 months or so. Forcing developers to migrate to some sane tech.
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> ldiamond  that would be adobe-care ;)
[14:52] <Milosonator> ldiamond: where is it mounted to by default? / ?
[14:52] <ldiamond> Milosonator, I don't know, wherever you mounted it.
[14:52] <Milosonator> ldiamond: k
[14:52] <ldiamond> 'sudo mount' for a list
[14:52] <ldiamond> it can't be a system partition though
[14:53] <ldiamond> don't remount /
[14:53] <ldiamond> it's already in rw anyways
[14:55] <SunGuard> hi all im at a terminal i want to use linux to show me what a password will be hashed to in the /shadow file how can i do this?
[14:56] <Milosonator> ldiamond: i'm going to access the server, fsck it from usb and reboot and hope for the best
[14:56] <Milosonator> ldiamond: but thanks for the help
[14:56] <TJ-> Milosonator: time to replace the disk, it has reallocate failures
[14:56] <Milosonator> TJ-: mmh i suppose :)
[14:56] <trijntje> SunGuard: that sounds like something you could just google. For example, this is the second hit I got http://www.aychedee.com/2012/03/14/etc_shadow-password-hash-formats/
[14:57] <TJ-> Milosonator: Hope you have good back-ups, too.
[14:57] <Milosonator> TJ-: that is all good :)
[14:58] <Milosonator> TJ-: it is in fact the backup server
[14:58] <SunGuard> ok i just tried that but i will do attempt to do it without a salt
[14:58] <Milosonator> TJ-: just reconfiguring could be a pain
[14:58] <TJ-> Milosonator: Ouch, Irony!
[14:59] <Milosonator> TJ-: it failing proves the need for a backup server
[14:59] <Milosonator> byes
[15:02] <trijntje> SunGuard: what exactly are you trying to do?
[15:02] <buck_> er, hello?
[15:02] <buck_> Happy to see there is a chat community here.
[15:02] <buck_> I have installed Ubuntu many times.
[15:03] <buck_> since inception and (just last week) etc.
[15:03] <bcvery> buck_, Hi, this is a support community, chat is here: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:03] <buck_> Hi bcvery.
[15:03] <buck_> Is this a room for technical questions or where shall I go for 'general chat' ??
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> buck_  how can we help you?
[15:04] <cfhowlett> buck_ if you need technical help ask.  for chit-chat: ubuntu-offtopic
[15:04] <buck_> as , so far I've learned from "all things evil" floating point calculations are the Devil's creation..
[15:04] <buck_> ..but, Its coming back..just highly repressed.
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> buck_  that's nice, but not for this channel, stick to support questions, please
[15:04] <buck_> Sir MonkeyDust, just if I can be in a chat room that, probably isn't the 'support' room.
[15:05] <buck_> (I'm not actually sure how to change rooms..:(...
[15:05] <buck_> I've got this far though!
[15:05] <cfhowlett> !ot|buck_
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> buck_  /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:05] <buck_> if I can know how to change rooms etc, that is good.
[15:06] <buck_> I'm 39% through the 'Hard Install for Apache Nutch' :P
[15:06] <cfhowlett> buck_ as MonkeyDust stated: type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:06] <buck_> so, not a newbie.
[15:06] <buck_> but, also extreme newbie on chat etc.
[15:07] <buck_> ...but, I have figured out how to 'run' *nix in a Virtual box..
[15:07] <buck_> which is good! :)
[15:07] <cfhowlett> buck_ if you need HELP, please ask a question.  otherwise, continue randomly musing in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:07] <buck_> ..And I still wonder how Gates & Melinda sleep at night for their rapacious charges for an 'OS' :P
[15:08] <buck_> Well, at least their still alive and kickin', I look toward the evil people of APPL with great disregard.
[15:08] <cfhowlett> !guidelines|buck_
[15:09] <k1l> buck_: i muted you. you were told several times now that this is a support only channel. please type "/join #ubuntu-offtopic" if you wan to chat about not support related
[15:11] <jaksi> hi
[15:12] <jaksi> I've got a strange problem with ubuntu: the sound playback stutters every few minutes
[15:12] <jaksi> this doesn't seem to happen on other distrubutions
[15:12] <jaksi> well, not on Arch
[15:14] <blz> Are there updated instructions for installing a  realtime kernel in ubuntu?  Both of the PPAs listed here are dead:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel
[15:14] <blz> !realtime
[15:18] <TJ-> blz: I think it's a custom-build job now, but it's relatively easy if you start from an Ubuntu Mainline kernel (from the Kernel PPA) and apply the RT patches to it
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> blz  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel
[15:18] <blz> MonkeyDust, this is the exact link I referenced ...
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> blz  it's not dead...
[15:19] <blz> TJ-, ok, do you have any recommended reading?
[15:19] <blz> MonkeyDust, the PPAs are dead
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> ah, ppa's
[15:19] <TJ-> blz: not tested by me, but looks sane: http://www.icarusrobotics.com/how-to-make-ubuntu-real-time-with-kernel-3-14-preemp_rt/
[15:20] <blz> TJ-, cool, sane-looking will do =)
[15:20] <blz> TJ-, and what's this about a Kernel PPA?  Do you mean the default repositories or is this an actual PPA with kernel stuff?
[15:20] <NGC3982> A real time kernel?
[15:20] <blz> NGC3982, yep =)
[15:21] <TJ-> blz: We build the mainline kernels via the ~kernel-ppa but they have to be manually downloaded/installed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[15:21] <blz> TJ-, groovy, thanks!
[15:22] <blz> TJ-, oh I see!  "upstream"  implies non-ubuntu-flavored Linux... is that right?
[15:22] <blz> as in, straight from Linus' git repo
[15:23] <TJ-> blz: they are the mainline kernels with no Ubuntu patches, but packaged as Ubuntu .deb packages
[15:23] <blz> got it, ok
[15:23] <blz> cool
[15:27] <zwobeh> hello everybody
[15:28] <zwobeh> got a question about lubuntu
[15:29] <zwobeh> anyone here to help?
[15:29] <bcvery> zwobeh, hello, please ask you question to the channel
[15:29] <bcvery> !ask
[15:29] <k1l_> zwobeh: just ask
[15:29] <NGC3982> NGC3982: just ask.
[15:29] <_2_Maria> hello
[15:30] <_2_Maria> just ask what
[15:32] <trijntje> _2_Maria: questions about ubuntu en stuf
[15:32] <user123321> Is CARP a freeBSD thingy? Should it work as it is intended in Ubuntu/LUbuntu?
[15:33] <philinux> _2_Maria: are you a bot?
[15:33] <fellayaboy> how do you decrypt the hard drive.  i need to clone my hd but dont want it encrypted due to it copying the absoulute whole hd due to the encryption
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> !find carp | user123321
[15:34] <stefano> !list
[15:35] <user123321> MonkeyDust, ubottu because when I search CARP, I saw reference to FreeBSD many times, just wondering if it works perfect here.
[15:36] <zwobeh> I'm using nightly64 and firefox in paralel on linux and as you know sometimes nightly updates does not work with addons and langpacks don't work with both versions. is there any way to work around?
[15:37] <OerHeks> fellayaboy, copy the contents to an empty partition, decrypting is not possible.
[15:38] <k1l_> !info ucarp | user123321
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> zwobeh  what's nightly64 and what's paralel?
[15:39] <user123321> Aha
[15:39] <fellayaboy> i see thanks
[15:39] <fellayaboy> OerHeks, thanks
[15:40] <zwobeh> MonkeyDust nightly64 is the 64bit beta of firefox
[15:40] <fellayaboy> is it possible to create a linux live usb for uefi boot
[15:40] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust, paralel = side-by-side , not really smart if you get plugins, i don't know a solution for those issues
[15:40] <user123321> Does anyone have experience using CARP for Ubuntu/LUbuntu?
[15:41] <user123321> Is CARP alright for HA and LB for 2 Ubuntu or LUbuntu servers?
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> user123321  my tip: explore its possibilities in linux, then you are the expert
[15:41] <Beldar> user123321, Tell the channel the actual issue for help.
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> user123321  and if it's for servers, there's also #ubuntu-server
[15:42] <OerHeks> zwobeh, FF nightly only works with a few languages
[15:42] <user123321> oh, didn't know there's #ubuntu-server :D
[15:43] <k1l_> Lubuntu-server?
[15:43] <k1l_> there is only ubuntu-server. Lubuntu just marks the ubuntu with preinstalled lxde desktop.
[15:44] <zwobeh> 0erHeks it works quite well, except the switching between the langpack-versions is my problem...
[15:48] <fellayaboy> how does one create a uefi linux live usb?
[15:48] <Beldar> fellayaboy, UEFI Is built in you just install using UEFI.
[15:49] <ikonia> the ubuntu livecd works on uefi
[15:49] <blz> I'm getting a very generic error message when trying to uninstall vsftpd.  What gives?  hastebin.com/mocuwosomo.txt
[15:49] <Beldar> !UEFI | fellayaboy
[15:50] <Beldar> fellayaboy, Worth reading, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[15:52] <ksefchik> Hi! I'm having a weird problem with GRUB2 on my friend's laptop! I'm pretty good with computers (I've repaired, built, troubleshot and I'm also a programmer) and I know my way around BIOS, booting and troubleshooting. THis one really has me scratching my head. Gentoo linux is installed on this laptop. It's an older version. When it was installed, GRUB apparently took over ALL of bootloading on the computer.
[15:52] <ksefchik> No matter what boot device I select in the BIOS, GRUB2 ALWAYS takes over and forces me to its menu (Which has broken and will only boot Gentoo -- the Windows 7 install already on the laptop is now inaccessible). This means I cannot load repair utilities, other flavors of Linux or anything that requires booting from something that isn't GRUB. This one really has me scratching my head and I'm not familiar with
[15:52] <ksefchik> the intracacies of how GRUB works. Could anyone pointme in the right direction? All I need to do is make GRUB allow me to boot ANYTHING else.
[15:52] <fellayaboy> Beldar, well i just want to use linux to transfer data from a windows 8 machine.. i like using linux rsync command best, but legacy mode wont boot the windows 8 drive and uefi wont boot my llinux live usb...
[15:53] <fellayaboy> so they cant communicate Beldar
[15:53] <ksefchik> I was trying to load UBUNTU on it, but I can't get that to boot either. Everything now points to GRUB
[15:54] <Beldar> fellayaboy, I have not messed with any UEFI installs so not sure the issue.
[15:54] <fellayaboy> no problem Beldar i think that link you sent me should help me much
[15:56] <trijntje> kso: can you boot from usb or cd? Sometimes the bios will see the usb as another harddrive, so you have to select boot device during startup, then choose harddisk, then choose the usb
[15:57] <trijntje> sorry ^^, he left already and autocomplete failed
[15:57] <geust8488> hey i need help
[15:57] <geust8488> what should i download ubuntu 64 bit or amd64bit?
[15:58] <ksefchik> sorry
[15:58] <ksefchik> Did anyone answer me by any chance?
[15:58] <geust8488> what was the question
[15:58] <OerHeks> geust8488, 64 bit = amd64
[15:58] <geust8488> oh thank you xd
[15:58] <ksefchik> Regarding GRUB hijacking my system?
[15:59] <geust8488> i had a problem too with grub
[15:59] <geust8488> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2111856
[15:59] <geust8488> this may be useful
[16:00] <OerHeks> ksefchik, your grub issue should be solved from the 1st linux you installed = gentoo
[16:00] <spaes> hello, i got a notice that my HWE is going out of support. it gave me two options (14.04 or newer HWE). i chose the newer HWE, installed successfully, rebooted. but now I'm still getting the same message. is that a typo?
[16:00] <ksefchik> Right, but I have no idea how to make it stop doing what it's doing.
[16:00] <spaes> s/typo/bug
[16:00] <ksefchik> Apparently a few other people have had this problem before, but it was dismissed as the user not knowing how to operate their system
[16:01] <OerHeks> ksefchik, all we have is the grub manual, not sure what version gentoo uses, better join #gentoo for this
[16:01] <OerHeks> !grub
[16:03] <Hoihe> Ahoy.  I'm having some issues with Steam. It doesn't seem to start despite typing its name in dash and clicking it there. I've recently had to reinstall Ubuntu 12.04 after failing to properly upgrade to 14.04. I have a seperate root partition and home partition. I deleted the root partition and installed in its stead.On the other hand, I kept the Home folder. does anyone have any idea what may be the issue? It doesn't give any error code.. just
[16:03] <Hoihe>  does nothing
[16:04] <guest_lucas> hi, I'd like to use ubuntu and gnome (or at least gnome applications), but I have a problem: I need a lightweight and customizable desktop environment (Unity is barely usable). I tried gnome-flashback, but it isn't customizable enough (like the old gnome 2)
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> guest_lucas  try lubuntu or xubuntu
[16:05] <penguinman> guest_lucas: you could try xfce or mate
[16:05] <Mandala> halo
[16:05] <Mandala> ini kota mana
[16:05] <nullsign-> why does umask 0000 not let files default with the execute permission?
[16:06] <jerome_> --> guest_lucas : you can try mate desktop.
[16:06] <geust8874> helo
[16:06] <guest_lucas> so I was wondering: if I install Gnome 3 on Ubuntu 14.04, is there an option to use it without any effects (no compiz)? I heard of a Gnome-classic mode, but it seems they keep on adding and removing it on each release
[16:07] <trijntje> nullsign-: man umask
[16:08] <nullsign-> i did that.
[16:08] <nullsign-> it says it won't allow it.
[16:08] <nullsign-> i want to know why, or how to override it.
[16:08] <geust8874> how to overwrite what?
[16:09] <nullsign-> i want a umask to make all files be 777, umask should be 0000 in octal
[16:09] <nullsign-> but it doesnt work, only does rw/rw/rw
[16:09] <geust8874> andrew gay gagaghahaha
[16:10] <andrewgay> Gay user
[16:10] <Pici> geust8874: knock it off.
[16:10] <geust8874> k
[16:10] <k1l_> !away > uld-asleep
[16:11] <andrewgay> Hi
[16:12] <perdouille> hello !
[16:12] <chen> hello
[16:12] <perdouille> I got a problem : I installed Xubuntu, and I can't install steam
[16:12] <perdouille> ( /usr/games/steam: 16: /usr/games/steam: /home/perdouille/.steam/steam.sh: not found
[16:12] <perdouille> )
[16:13] <jhutchins> !steam
[16:13] <perdouille> I installed fglrx (I got an AMD 7870 card), and glxgears seems to work (32675 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6534.888 FPS)
[16:14] <chen> never play games, sorry
[16:14] <perdouille> I'll ask on #Ubuntu-steam, thanks
[16:14] <andrewgay> Gay here
[16:14] <lol37> hi
[16:15] <lol37> Hello
[16:15] <trijntje> hi lol37
[16:15] <trijntje> andrewgay: please behave
[16:15] <liamkeily1> whats the best method to copy a bunch of files. About 20gb worth to another server without compressing them (not enough space on server to store compressed version)
[16:15] <lol37> CJK doesn't show on google chrome
[16:15] <lol37> CJK fonts*
[16:15] <lol37> i have to manually match the corresponding language with the right font
[16:15] <lol37> otherwise it shows box
[16:16] <TJ-> liamkeily1: rsync
[16:16] <trijntje> liamkeily1: rsync will compress it on your machine, send it over the network and decompress it on the server
[16:16] <lol37> any advices of why ?
[16:16] <andygay> Gay here
[16:16] <liamkeily1> will it do that in chunks?
[16:17] <liamkeily1> i.e it doesn't require the space on the server
[16:17] <k1l_> andygay: stop that if you got nothing to contribute to the technical support channel
[16:17] <guest_lucas> so, to simplify a bit my question, maybe: on my ubuntu 14.04, can I try to install Gnome3 to try it out? If so, should I install the package "full gnome desktop environment with extra components"? I find many descriptions in the software center aren't as clear as they used to be
[16:18] <trijntje> liamkeily1: as far as I know it compresses/decompresses on the fly
[16:18] <andygay> Gay
[16:18] <trijntje> guest_lucas: its probably better to try ubuntu gnome from a live cd/usb or via virtualbox to try it out
[16:19] <lol37> i did a workaround by installing "Advanced Font Settings" plugin
[16:19] <spaes> guest_lucas: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell ubuntu-gnome-desktop is what i did
[16:19] <lol37> setting a correct font with the correct language
[16:19] <lol37> but i wonder why i have to do this
[16:20] <spaes> guest_lucas: can you tell what the meta package name is for that "full gnome desktop environment" package you're looking at is?
[16:21] <spaes> guest_lucas: as far as testing it out, i don't think you are ever fully committed to one desktop environment. i don't like unity so i removed those packages after installing gnome, but i could install them again. if you don't remove them, you could even switch back and forth at the login screen.
[16:22] <liamkeily1> trijntje, wow that works a tonne quicker than scp thanks :)
[16:22] <trijntje> liamkeily1: done already? I'm jealous of your upload speed ;)
[16:22] <liamkeily1> na lol i just tested a part of it
[16:22] <liamkeily1> 500mb went across damn quick though
[16:23] <guest_lucas> yes spaes, thanks. That's what I wanted to do, try some different ones (especially gnome3 and xfce maybe). You asked about the package name... gnome 1:3.8+4ubuntu3, if that's what you meant
[16:23] <trijntje> yeah, and it doesnt copy over files that already exist on the other end if they are identical, so its also great for encremental backups
[16:23] <liamkeily1> trijntje, i was literally just about to ask that
[16:24] <liamkeily1> trijntje, its for a cpanel server i have with a tonne of sites and when it goes down it scares the hell out of me because although i have backups set up they often fail to upload to remote server and stuff
[16:24] <spaes> guest_lucas: ok, that's definitely a meta package, i don't know anything about it though
[16:25] <liamkeily1> trijntje, so rsync probably better method of backing up?
[16:25] <guest_lucas> but I also see package names like "gnome shell", "gnome shell classic"... that's why I said the software center looks less intuitive and clear to me, than it used to be
[16:27] <trijntje> liamkeily1: yes, it should work fine. Just make sure to read the manual carefully, for example by default it doesnt remove  a file from the target when it is deleted from the source, so the target can acumulate deleted files etc
[16:29]  * akhil test
[16:30]  * trijntje is away
[16:30] <Jessica_> Thanks. I tried those it worked. I made a mistake and removed the lightdm installation in ubuntu (sudo apt-get remove lightdm). now when i start ubunutu it says lightdm start is failing and Ubuntu hangs. What is the fastest way to get lightdm back so ubuntu can boot?
[16:31] <eeee> Jessica_: apt-get install lightdm ?
[16:33] <Jessica_> eee: problem is  that I am at the booting point where ubuntu hangs. only thing i can do is ctrl + F1 to get on ubuntu terminal if do apt-get install lightdm it does not install since my internet connection is missing
[16:34] <ksefchik> is ExFAT a valid format for an ubuntu live drive?
[16:34] <Term1nal> Using Konversation, upon clicking a link in IRC... the "Ubuntu Web Browser" pops up.. instead of firefox.
[16:34] <OerHeks> ksefchik, no, fat16/32 is
[16:34] <eeee> Jessica_: you could maybe use a livecd and chroot into the installation then ?
[16:34] <TJ-> Jessica_: You may be able to start the network from the terminal. Does "nmcli connection" list your usual network connection?
[16:36] <ksefchik> Thanks!
[16:38] <Jessica_> TJ: could you please give me an example command for nmcli.  it is asking me to add options
[16:38] <Helpy> Hey room. I've got an issue upgrading 10.04 to 12.04.X using alternate CD iso. Bug is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1280041
[16:39] <TJ-> Jessica_: I did: "nmcli connection"
[16:39] <Helpy> bug not addressed: I've got the exact same issue but with regular Ubuntu
[16:39] <eeee> Jessica_: i think nmcli -p c, shows the connections
[16:40] <TJ-> Jessica_: If, for example, you have a (wireless) connection with the NAME "wireless" you can start it (bring it up) using "nmcli connection up "wireless"  "
[16:41] <varunendra> TJ-, Jessica_ I think it is "con up.." not "connection up.." ...
[16:41] <Helpy> Hash sum mismatch during upgrade -- anyone now how to fix that?
[16:42] <OerHeks> Helpy,  check the iso with md5sum
[16:42] <varunendra> TJ-, Jessica_ "nmcli con up id <name of the connection>"
[16:42] <eeee> Jessica_: nmcli -p con up id "My wired connection" iface wlan0
[16:42] <TJ-> varunendra: No, but nmcli accepts the shorter non-duplicate command string
[16:43] <Helpy> OerHeks: thanks, will try. I don't know what that is. Do I just md5sum filename.iso in terminal?
[16:43] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[16:43] <varunendra> TJ-, narrating from "man nmcli" here, but I remember having tested it more than once in ubuntuforums and on my system here
[16:43] <eeee> *"My wireless connection"
[16:43] <OerHeks> !hashes
[16:44] <Jessica_>  i tested the options but no connection. am going to reboot out of recovery mode and then start again
[16:45] <TJ-> varunendra: For "connection" you can use just "c" ..., same as with "device" you can use just "d"
[16:45] <TJ-> Jessica_: you could simply "telinit 2"
[16:46] <Helpy> OerHeks: Thanks, man. Didn't match up. Musta caught some interference on the DL :P Will try again, fingers crossed
[16:47] <OerHeks> Helpy, good luck and have fun
[16:47] <hackal> Hello, is there a Skype for Ubuntu?
[16:48] <Jessica_> yeah, will try this out in a minute. one question does by default ubuntu boot with postgreSQL? I see that PostgreSQL is only failing
[16:48] <OerHeks> !skype
[16:49] <Jessica_> Hackal: check here: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/03/how-to-install-skype-in-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/
[16:50] <OerHeks> 13.04 great howto .. but old
[16:53] <Guest44343> lol
[16:53] <hackal> Do you use skype on Ubuntu?
[16:53] <matthewbe> hi
[16:53] <matthewbe> maximal resolution depends on monitor or graphic card ?
[16:54] <Guest44343> hi from russian
[16:54] <kippi> trying to lock my machine using bash, I can run gnome-screensaver-command --lock but that just gives me a black screen doesn't lock, i am using 14.04
[16:54] <kippi> Want to try and work out what Super+L key is doing
[16:56] <kostkon> kippi, maybe try this? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man1/dm-tool.1.html
[16:57] <Jessica_> what is the fastest and easiest way for a rookie to fix an ubuntu booting issue? are there certain help commands? sth like a generic command which checks for packages and fixes them from the installation file?
[16:58] <daftykins> Jessica_: not really. what did you do before booting stopped working?
[16:59] <Jessica_> daftykins: i had issues loggin into ubuntu via lightdm. i then read some tips online how to fix and one was fatal. i mistakenly deled lightdm. so now when i start ubuntu it hangs and says Lightdm failing
[17:00] <daftykins> deleted? you actually ran "apt-get remove lightdm" ?
[17:01] <Jessica_> daftykins: yes, I did run apt-get remove lightdm
[17:01] <kippi> kostkon: just keep getting "Not running inside a display manager, XDG_SEAT_PATH not defined"
[17:01] <daftykins> Jessica_: that's no big deal then, you can just reinstall it via the same method.
[17:02] <daftykins> Jessica_: presumably you are confronted with a command line login despite X failing
[17:02] <Jessica_> am trying to get into that command line again. but i can't it shows me the ubuntu screen whuch is hanging
[17:03] <daftykins> Jessica_: try hitting ctrl+alt+F1
[17:04] <Jessica_> besides also i don't have internet connection if ubuntu hangs. since it is does not run by default. but i am sure lighdm is somehwere still on  my ubuntu harddrive
[17:04] <daftykins> no, not likely
[17:04] <cuddylier> Anyone know what I can do to diagnose my server box showing '66' load in 'top' when the processes are very few and none are using a lot of from looking at the CPU column? This box usually operates at 10 load.
[17:04] <daftykins> Jessica_: is it a laptop? do you have access to a router and a network cable to plug it in temporarily?
[17:04] <cuddylier> Syslog shows nothing unusual and so on
[17:05] <varunendra> Jessica_, is the virtual tty (ctrl-alt-F1) unusable or it is just the internet connection problem there?
[17:05] <daftykins> varunendra: there's no point two of us asking the same things.
[17:06] <varunendra> daftykins, internet connection is not a compulsory component of the fix if the package record was ever updated on that machine.
[17:07] <daftykins> varunendra: removing a package will not magically create .deb's locally
[17:07] <Jessica_> i am on a wifi connection on a windows machine. I have Xubuntu running in an Oracle Virtual box
[17:07] <varunendra> daftykins, ever heard of the "--print-uris" option to apt-get command??
[17:08] <daftykins> Jessica_: hang on, so the VM is the system that's having issues?
[17:08] <Jessica_> I tried ctrl+alt +f1. it does not switch to the terminal. ubuntu is hanging just showing me the initial splash screen and frozen
[17:08] <daftykins> you can also try F2 through F6
[17:09] <daftykins> varunendra: regardless, that's jumping several steps ahead
[17:10] <Helpy> OerHeks: I lied. I verified the iso against a wrong file. The md5sum of my iso is fine. Still getting hash sum mismatch
[17:10] <Jessica_> daftykins: yeah i tried F2-F6 already. no reaaction. still frozen. i doubt the problem is with the VM. because the VM starts fine. this problem is i think related to the removal of lightdm
[17:11] <daftykins> Jessica_: no i'm trying to find out what the install is, is it a dualboot beside Windows?
[17:11] <daftykins> i have no idea why you brought up talk of a VM
[17:12] <Jessica_> i just wanted to tell you about my setup. maybe it could help in solving the issue
[17:12] <Helpy> Anyone had issues upgrading 10.04 to 12.04.4 using alternate CD iso?
[17:12] <Jessica_> i have windows 7 as host machine. i installed Oracle Virtual box. in the VM i have xubuntu running
[17:12] <Helpy> I'm getting hash sum mismatch, even with verified md5sum
[17:13] <daftykins> Jessica_: right and where's the broken ubuntu install?
[17:13] <daftykins> Helpy: desktop edition upgrade?
[17:13] <Jessica_> daftykins: what does your question mean?
[17:14] <Helpy> daftykins: Yeah, but using alternate iso upgrade i.e. no CD burning, but mounting iso
[17:14] <daftykins> Jessica_: so, host running Windows... VM with xubuntu... whiere's the broken ubuntu install? are we talking about the VM?
[17:14] <daftykins> Helpy: hmm, with such an old setup i'd just be clean installing =/
[17:14] <Jessica_> ubuntu is not booting properly . that is my issue
[17:15] <daftykins> Jessica_: yes but you're failing to describe if this ubuntu install is also a host OS dualbooting beside Windows
[17:15] <Helpy> daftykins: yeah there are a couple of reasons that right now I need this alternate iso to work
[17:16] <Jessica_> oh, can you please explain the 2 options? I don't understand the difference
[17:16] <daftykins> O_O
[17:17] <daftykins> Jessica_: when you turn on the computer, do you pick between Windows and the broken install?
[17:18] <Jessica_> no
[17:18] <k1l_> Jessica_: so the broken ubuntu is in the vbox?
[17:19] <Jessica_> i have to first start the virtualbox. the broken ubuntu is running in the VM
[17:19] <daftykins> Jessica_: is it a VM separate to the xubuntu one, or?
[17:19] <daftykins> ok now we're getting somewhere
[17:19] <Jessica_> daftykins: windows and the ubuntu are totally separate. xubuntu is inside the virtualbox
[17:19] <k1l_> daftykins: i think the broken ubuntu install is inside the vbox and not a real install
[17:20] <daftykins> k1l_: yeah now that the explanation finally came out i'm on that page too, though i don't understand this talk of xubuntu
[17:20] <daftykins> Jessica_: so is the broken install a *separate* VM to the xubuntu one? are there two in total?
[17:21] <Jessica_> no. i just have one single VM running and in that Xubuntu is running as operating system
[17:21] <daftykins> and that's the broken one?
[17:22] <daftykins> so if it's just a VM, what's the point in fixing it? does it have data you need?
[17:22] <Jessica_> yes, that is briken.
[17:22] <Jessica_> yes, i have data and many work set up in it
[17:23] <TJ-> Jessica_: Earlier you said it starts in Recovery mode, but lack of network connection meant you couldn't simply "apt-get install lightdm", is that correct?
[17:23] <daftykins> ah-har
[17:23] <Jessica_> yes
[17:24] <daftykins> for future reference then, look into snapshots to avoid these problems
[17:24] <TJ-> Jessica_: And when it starts in 'normal' mode you are left with the slightly graphical Ubuntu/Xubuntu logo on-screen but the desktop environment fails to start (presumably due to the missing lightdm) ?
[17:24] <Jessica_> yes
[17:24] <daftykins> ^yes as detailed above already, TJ-
[17:25] <harjot> #librecad
[17:25] <TJ-> Jessica_: earlier, varunendra asked you if you can get to a console using "Ctrl+Alt_F1", I missed your answer if you answered that. Can you get to a text console using Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[17:26] <Jessica_> TJ: strange thing is that I was able to get into into console. but now i can't anymore.  let me restart it again
[17:26] <k1l_> she will need to presse another key to make that work with vbox
[17:27] <TJ-> k1l_: Even when the guest has input focus?
[17:27] <varunendra> TJ-, Jessica_ , I think we can still get URIs of the packages to be installed from the root shell prompt in recovery mode. The task thereafter, hopefully easy one, would be to just carry them to the target machine and install via 'dpkg -i'
[17:27] <k1l_> TJ-: yes, its "host"+F1 in that case
[17:28] <k1l_> where "host" is right crtl key in most standard setups
[17:28] <daftykins> now that we actually know it's a VM
[17:29] <k1l_> daftykins: yes :)
[17:29] <TJ-> varunendra: There is that, but there's a couple of things that might be simpler. One is that the lightdm packages *may* still be in "/var/cache/apt/archives/", and 2nd is, we should be able to manually activate the network either via NetworkManager, or directly
[17:29] <daftykins> they were removed post install, i doubt they're there
[17:30] <TJ-> daftykins: yeah, its a long shot, but worth a simple "find /var/cache/apt/archives ...! :)
[17:30] <varunendra> TJ-, yup, enabling the network is definitely the easier alternative, I thought that attempt failed earlier, so just proposing alternative.
[17:30] <daftykins> well you've all jumped over this one so i'm going to leave you to it
[17:31] <piotr_> hey, so question: I'm running 14.04 and sometimes the entire system just freezes and there's nothing I can do (like I can't access xkill or anything at all). Any thoughts?
[17:32] <Jessica_> Just some minutes
[17:32] <piotr_> eh?
[17:33] <scissor_haNDS> hey
[17:33] <daftykins> piotr_: memtest the machine?
[17:33] <scissor_haNDS> anyone? feeling bored
[17:34] <daftykins> scissor_haNDS: go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:34] <piotr_> daftykins: a) how should I do that? and what would be good results?
[17:34] <Jessica_> I restarted xubuntu. still i can't get into console. splash screen is frozen
[17:35] <Jessica_> daftykins: what approach would you recommend?
[17:35] <unix4linux> hi, trying to install ubuntu 14.04 64-bit on intel 4770k and asus z97-ar. I can't get the system to start the install after I select "erase entire disk" and "LVM", it goes to the "Where are you?" map to choose your geographic location and I immediately get a pop-up with a bunch of question marks and the option to hit OK. If I hit OK, nothing happens
[17:35] <unix4linux> any thoughts on what this could be?
[17:36] <daftykins> Jessica_: i kind of gave up when 3 more people started assisting at once, too many cooks spoil the broth and all that. but since you revealed it's a VM, did you see the part about it actually being Right-Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[17:36] <unix4linux> i can install the on two other systems with different hardware just fine so the media is good
[17:36] <daria> hello
[17:36] <gav_> d
[17:36] <unix4linux> not sure if I need to set some options during boot
[17:36] <daria> can i ask a question? couldnt speak at the general linux channel
[17:36] <daftykins> piotr_: hold left shift at boot then pick the memory test option under advanced options
[17:36] <daftykins> daria: only if it is an ubuntu support question, yes
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> daria  let's hear it
[17:37] <piotr_> how long should i let it run, daftykins?
[17:37] <daria> so the 'users' command tells me there's 3 instances of me logged in. i only logged in once, so i want to know why
[17:37] <daria> using arch+xfce4
[17:37] <daftykins> piotr_: have a look at the outdated image here as an example - http://www.memtest.org/pics/i875-big.gif
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> daria  arch?
[17:37] <Jessica_> yes,  I tried right ctrl+alt + f1 through f12 but does not switch
[17:37] <JabaTheHut> people, i want to install ubuntu on a mac, but when i do, the wifi does not work, how can i get it to work?
[17:38] <daria> (distro)
[17:38] <daria> but it shouldn't matter
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> daria  this is not the arch channel
[17:38] <daftykins> daria: we do not support arch.
[17:38] <bazhang> #archlinux daria
[17:38] <daftykins> daria: yes, yes it does matter.
[17:38] <daria> thanks
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> daria  why did you come here?
[17:38] <daria> to seek answers...
[17:38] <daftykins> piotr_: errors would come up as big red lines in the lower half, you want to wait until the "Pass" # increments to at least 3+
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> daria  seek answers in the arch channel
[17:39] <daria> so i'm back, there's no channel for arch linux ;(
[17:39] <piotr_> so i let it go past " test # 3"? what do I do if there are errors?
[17:39] <piotr_> daftykin
[17:39] <daftykins> piotr_: we'll cross that bridge if you come to it.
[17:39] <varunendra> daria, the "who" command should also show you the instances were you are logged in
[17:39] <daria> it's just that i was quite convinced one of you linux gurus would know it, and its not even a problem
[17:39] <piotr_> daftykins: so i let it go past " test # 3"? what do I do if there are errors?
[17:40] <daftykins> piotr_: no, there are multiple tests in a single pass, let it go past *pass 3* :)
[17:40] <daria> 'who' shows 4 instances
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> daria  type /j #archlinux
[17:40] <bazhang> daria, #archlinux is certainly there
[17:40] <Glycan> Hello, I'm trying to mess around with my kindle (trying to usbnetwork), it's not working, and dmesg tells me "cdc_subset: probe of 3-2:1.0 failed with error -22". What might that mean?
[17:40] <daria> it redirects me somewhere MonkeyDust
[17:40] <varunendra> daria, then 'users' will also show 4 now
[17:40] <daftykins> Glycan: that is beyond the scope of this channel
[17:41] <Glycan> daftykins: it's a problem with my OS, no?
[17:41] <Jessica_> daftykins: will it cause a problem if use windows to download a new fresh version of the same ubuntu version and dump it into sharedfolder for the VM?
[17:41] <k1l_> daria: you need to register with freenode to speak in the arch channels. if you need help on that read the topics of that channels or ask in #freenode
[17:41] <daftykins> Jessica_: that action will not help anything.
[17:41] <piotr_> oh, you mean in the bottom line right next to where it says "test" and "errors" daftykins?
[17:41] <daftykins> piotr_: yes the Pass value.
[17:44] <daftykins> Jessica_: try and boot the VM into recovery mode by holding left shift *in* the VM just after reset / power on
[17:44] <piotr_> daftykins - did you say something? i acidentally lost power
[17:45] <daftykins> piotr_: yes the pass value, http://www.memtest.org/ <-- read here for more info.
[17:45] <piotr_> what do i do if there are errors, daftykins
[17:45] <daftykins> piotr_: i already answered that twice, you are trying my patience.
[17:46] <daftykins> piotr_: we will cross that bridge if we come to it, now go run memtest
[17:46] <piotr_> daftykins, i apologize, I didn't see if you answered. I'll go run it.
[17:50] <netameta> is there a client for githup that can commit/push etc through putty ?
[17:50] <daftykins> Jessica_: have you done it yet?
[17:51] <netameta> github*
[17:51] <Jessica_> yes am on it
[17:51] <Jessica_> waiting for sth to appear
[17:51] <Jessica_> Daftykins: yes now i see the frozen splash screen again
[17:52] <daftykins> Jessica_: i think you went too far, you should've gotten the GRUB menu.
[17:52] <Jessica_> Ah you want me to get into the recovery mode
[17:53] <Jessica_> daftykins: now in the GRUB mode
[17:53] <daftykins> Jessica_: i used that word yes :)
[17:54] <daftykins> Jessica_: i may have to give up if you're unable to even completely read my messages to begin with
[17:54] <Jessica_> which option should i select?
[17:54] <daftykins> advanced -> recovery (beside the newest kernel)
[17:54] <daftykins> !recovery
[17:55] <Jessica_> I see this options which sounds similar to what you mentioned : "Advanced Options for Ubuntu"
[17:55] <daftykins> yes, it's also probably option 2 of 2
[17:55] <Jessica_> yes.
[17:56] <Jessica_> now i see many options. which one should choose
[17:56] <daftykins> again, i have said already.
[17:56] <daftykins> i have also got the bot to link to an article on this
[17:56] <Jessica_> I selected the generic recovery mode already
[17:57] <daftykins> Jessica_: follow the above link to step 8
[17:57] <daftykins> (inclusive)
[17:59] <m1chael> hello. i have xubuntu 14.04 (upgraded from 13.*) i close the lid on my laptop, and it never recovers. stays at black screen. the color on google chrome is also a bit pixelated in the gray areas. i've tried a lot of fixes, nothing seems to be working. what would you guys do at this point? this makes me not even want to use my computer
[17:59] <daftykins> m1chael: test the guest user / a new user to rule out your user's config
[18:00] <m1chael> that's a new one!
[18:00] <m1chael> ok
[18:00] <m1chael> would a normal ubuntu installation suit me better?
[18:00] <xangua> m1chael: the screen black after suspension is a know bug mentioned in the release notes
[18:00] <m1chael> i think i have this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736
[18:01] <m1chael> it's annoying me, bad
[18:01] <m1chael> what would you guys do
[18:02] <daftykins> not use xubuntu until it's fixed? i don't know.
[18:02] <daftykins> i don't like my laptop doing anything when i close the lid so i disable all that
[18:02] <m1chael> i hear ya
[18:03] <Jessica_> thanks for the link. I saw that url before. I have gone through the steps 1-8 . now should i reboot?
[18:09] <Jessica_> Hi guys, thanks for your support on it for now. I will give up on it and continue later. I spent already 10 hours on this issues. My whole day is lost is lost due to it
[18:09] <daftykins> Jessica_: no, you haven't done anything yet. run "ifconfig -a" and look if you have an IP address beside eth0
[18:09] <Jessica_> ;)
[18:09] <daftykins> you're about 5 minutes from being done.
[18:09] <Jessica_> oh ok
[18:10] <dreams> can i get some help ?
[18:10] <Jessica_> should i run th ifconfig -a while in the recovery mode?
[18:10] <daftykins> Jessica_: yes
[18:10] <dreams> im trying to uhm , add PPA repository
[18:10] <daftykins> Jessica_: you should be at a root prompt
[18:10] <dreams> which are disabled on my distro
[18:11] <Pici> dreams: your distro?
[18:11] <dreams> i`m using linux mint
[18:11] <dreams> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ferramroberto/extra/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[18:11] <dreams> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ferramroberto/extra/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[18:11] <dreams> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kxstudio-team/kxstudio/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[18:11] <dreams> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kxstudio-team/kxstudio/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[18:11] <dreams> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kxstudio-team/kxstudio/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[18:11] <unopaste> dreams you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:11] <xangua> !mint | dreams
[18:12] <dreams> but they dont support PPA
[18:12] <dreams> on their channels
[18:12] <daftykins> you cannot ask for Mint help in here. sorry.
[18:12] <dreams> so im like stuck :(
[18:12] <dreams> where can i go for help on anything >?
[18:12] <DJones> dreams: You'll need to contact either the Mint support channel or the ppa maintainer
[18:13] <dreams> anybody wants to help me with personal message ?
[18:13] <dreams> so im not spoiling some channel
[18:14] <Jessica_> Datfykins: no i see no ip address besides eth0
[18:14] <daftykins> Jessica_: try running "dhclient eth0"
[18:15] <daftykins> Jessica_: assuming you have your VM configured in virtualbox to have a bridged internet connection via your laptop's connection
[18:15] <Glycan> Is there any way to make sure that my sources.list is okay?
[18:15] <Glycan> and that running apt-get dist-upgrade isn't going to make everything blow up?
[18:16] <xangua> Glycan: disable/uninstall PPA's
[18:16] <xangua> and other third party repositories
[18:17] <s2013> anyone here uses ubutu on vwmare player?
[18:17] <s2013> how do you add more hd space? im a bit confused
[18:17] <daftykins> vmware player is not intended for proper use of ubuntu
[18:17] <wad> Hi guys. So I always run gnome-terminal, and I often have a whole bunch of tabs open. Is there a command I can type that will name the current tab? I'm having to memorize which one is for what, and it's getting burdensome... but there is this handy string in the tab that seems like it wouild be useful.
[18:17] <Glycan> xangua: is there a simple way to do that?
[18:18] <xangua> Glycan: don't add third party repositories from the beggining
[18:18] <Jessica_> daftykins: normally there is internet connection on the VM. i get no result trying dhclient
[18:18] <dutchd> is there a way to enable bash autocomplete after an equal? e.g., when setting an environment variable CC=arm-linux- tab used to autocomplete, back in 12.04 I believe. on 14.04 autocopmlete only works if i put a space after the equals, then go back to remove the space. it works if i specif the absolute path, but that kind of defeats the purpose of me adding the directory to the path.
[18:18] <Jessica_> no IP address appears. what appears is "RTLNETLINK answers: file exists"
[18:19] <daftykins> Jessica_: mmhmm, ok that's odd. do you see anything named 'lightdm' if you run "ls /var/cache/apt/archives/" ?
[18:19] <Glycan> xangua: there are several useful tools which are not in the offical repos, how else would I go about installing them [quickly]? More to the point, what do I do now?
[18:19] <daftykins> Jessica_: ah an error, ok i'm finding results online about that
[18:20] <xangua> Glycan: figure what you want
[18:20] <rretzbach> Hi, when ubuntu wakes from suspend it freezes and wouldn't let me move the mouse or switch to a virtual terminal. Can you please tell me how I could investiage this behavior to find a cause?
[18:20] <s2013> daftykins, thanks but that doesnt hlep me
[18:20] <`Yoda> Hi (: - Running 'do-release-upgrade' on a 13.10 system should upgrade to 14.04 if I'm correct, right? :)
[18:21] <Glycan> tsk..
[18:21] <daftykins> s2013: no and nor should it, because i'm saying that using ubuntu under vmware player isn't appropriate
[18:22] <Jessica_> daftykins: 1. if i look in the path you mentioed i see a file called "locked" and a folder called "partial" but if i do whereis "lightdm" i see a path for it
[18:22] <fabien> #lut
[18:22] <fabien> ca marche <,,
[18:22] <fabien> ??
[18:22] <daftykins> Jessica_: yeah that doesn't help.
[18:22] <fabien> french ??
[18:22] <daftykins> Jessica_: try also "killall dhcient" "ifconfig eth0 down" "ifconfig eth0 up" then "dhclient eth0" again
[18:22] <daftykins> fabien: #ubuntu-fr
[18:22] <fabien> comment ca mrche ?
[18:23] <fabien> #unbuntu-fr
[18:23] <daftykins> !fr
[18:23] <varunendra> s2013, what do you mean by "add more space"? Do you want to change the virtual hdd size? I don't think it is possible in any VM, not normally at least. You could simply add a bigger virtual hdd.
[18:24] <daftykins> varunendra: vmware player does not allow configuration, it's a demo program only
[18:24] <Jessica_> daftkins: no new change regarding dhclient eth0
[18:24] <daftykins> thus unsupported
[18:24] <Jessica_> can we do sth the lightdm path i saw with "where is lightdm"?
[18:25] <fladder> hi, can someone tell me how i can remove the ubuntu-gnome logo at the login screen of ubuntu gnome?
[18:25] <fladder> usually the theme can be modified in the /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme folder, but it seems this must be done somewhere else...
[18:25] <daftykins> Jessica_: no, unless you can download a file with Windows and put it in a shared folder for the VM to grab?
[18:25] <varunendra> daftykins, that was ages ago. I use VMplayer myself, though casually only, but it allows almost every common task that vmware workstation does. First hand experince
[18:26] <daftykins> varunendra: ah, they changed it then.
[18:26] <varunendra> daftykins, constantly :)
[18:26] <daftykins> still, i don't think we support hypervisors here.
[18:28] <bgardner> `Yoda: Right
[18:28] <`Yoda> Neat, thank you
[18:29] <Jessica_> daftkyins: yes do and just went inside that folder within recovery mode
[18:29] <user123321> Suppose I want to install 2 Ubuntu or LUbuntu servers with identical server programs in each one (eg: Apache and might be other server programs), is CARP good for HA and LB? Does anyone have experience with CARP?
[18:30] <daftykins> Jessica_: ok is this xubuntu 14.04 ?
[18:30] <Jessica_> daftykins:13.10
[18:31] <daftykins> ugh
[18:32] <daftykins> Jessica_: just so you know, you have 3 weeks left of support on that version
[18:33] <Jessica_> thanks for the info. iw ill update after this big issue i have ;)
[18:34] <daftykins> Jessica_: hmm, i have no idea on the path to get packages from for your version, can you get an address by running "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" ?
[18:34] <daftykins> you'll see http:///blah blah/... i only need the "blah blah" bit
[18:34] <daftykins> e.g. archive.ubuntu.com - except it won't be that
[18:34] <sere> is it possible to sync music to and lg phone with rhythmbox..i can only see it in mass storate
[18:34] <sere> storage*
[18:35] <varunendra> Jessica_, what does this command give your - "apt-get install --reinstall --print-uris lightdm" ?
[18:35] <varunendra> you *
[18:37] <subb1> Could anyone here help me?
[18:37] <varunendra> !ask | subb1
[18:37] <Jessica_> varunendra: i see a url link that . i think it is the url for lightdm
[18:37] <varunendra> Jessica_, just one URL?
[18:37] <user123321> ubottu, hi
[18:38] <varunendra> Jessica_, you can use that url(s) to download the .deb packages on your host windows, then move them to the shared folder (shared with the VM), then install with "dpkg -i *" (from within the shared folder)
[18:38] <subb1> DNS resolution on my laptop is breaking every time i power on. I'll then have to set it to google's public NS in resolv.conf, which by various sources, is a bad idea. it's the same behavious even when I switch ISPs. My version is trusty 14.04.  No, I don't have 'dnsmasq' installaed but I do have dnsmasq-base.
[18:39] <Jessica_> varunendra: yes one url. and it sys 1 package re-installed. does it mean that lightdm is re-installed? ;)
[18:39] <varunendra> Jessica_, yes
[18:39] <subb1> Many forums suggested that i'ts a bug with dnsmasq 2.68 but I don't have that installed. I only have dnsmasq-base, which again, I upgraded to 2.71-1 and is still not working!
[18:40] <daftykins> that's impressive for a system that doesn't have a network connection
[18:40] <varunendra> Jessica_, let me know if you need step-by-step instructions. I think it is 4 steps in all.
[18:40] <subb1> It's verryyyy annoying! :(
[18:40] <Jessica_> varunnendra: then i can just reboot and try. correct? yes, please give me step by step instructions. am a rookie
[18:40] <varunendra> daftykins, the --print-uris option is a boon for no-internet systems. Provided the package info is updated at least once.
[18:40] <daftykins> subb1: i'd ditch them all, stop using dnsmasq and then hardcode nameservers in resolv.conf that won't get overridden on reboot
[18:40] <TJ-> subb1: Network Manager in Ubuntu uses dnsmasq to provide the DNS resolver locally, and dhclient as the DHCP client, are you using the regular Ubuntu network configuration?
[18:41] <daftykins> varunendra: i don't follow... the above messages seem to suggest that that command mystically reinstalled it
[18:41] <daftykins> it can't pull packages out of thin air
[18:41] <subb1> daftykins, I connect to VPN so a new set of NS get's overwrittern there for the local private network. If I overwrite resolvonf, then it won't get updated when i connect to vpn the next time.
[18:42] <subb1> TJ-, yes I'm using the reguluar.
[18:42] <varunendra> daftykins, it just pretends to install the package(s) like it is going to... but then the --print-uris option forces apt to just print the download URIs, so that user can manually download/install them later
[18:42] <daftykins> varunendra: yeah that's what i expected, so they can be downloaded on Jessica_'s host. i tried the commands myself but got no URIs
[18:42] <Jessica_> so should i reboot and try to see if things work fine?
[18:42] <Jessica_> oh ok ;)
[18:42] <subb1> TJ-, If i remove the dnsmasq-base package, network-manager package get's removed too. !
[18:42] <varunendra> Jessica_, first, use that URI to download the .deb package that needs to be installed
[18:42] <TJ-> subb1: If the VPNs are managed by Network Manager, you can change the options to Type "DHCP (Addresses Only)" I think it is, which prevents any DNS or route changes
[18:43] <daftykins> Jessica_: download it on your Windows host, put it in the shared folder, use the VM to move it to /var/cache/apt/archives/ then install with "apt-get install lightdm"
[18:43] <varunendra> daftykins, did you also use the --reinstall option? You'd get nothing if the packages are already cached in the apt cache.
[18:43] <daftykins> yes
[18:43] <subb1> TJ-, hmm... not following. I also tried commenting out dnsmasq in NetworkManager.conf... no luck.
[18:44] <subb1> Ubuntu and it's crappy new practices!
[18:44] <subb1> :(
[18:44] <varunendra> daftykins, Jessica_ no need to move it to /var/cache/apt/archives - that would help nothing. It can be installed from anywhere - just make sure there are no unnecessary packages there if using the '*' character instead of package name.
[18:44] <subb1> I was happily using 10.04, but then I had to upgrade it to get some updated packages for my work reasons.
[18:44] <daftykins> oh yeah silly me, not sure why i didn't think of just dpkg -i
[18:45] <daftykins> varunendra: anyway if you can take over, i need to head to the shop!
[18:45] <varunendra> daftykins, with pleasure :)
[18:45] <daftykins> back shortly.
[18:45] <Pici> subb1: Have you seen this http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ or this https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html#name-resolution yet?
[18:46] <jmunsch> would someone be so kind as to `netcat -zv 50.244.213.181 80`
[18:46] <Pici> jmunsch: netcat: connect to 50.244.213.181 port 80 (tcp) failed: Connection refused
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> jmunsch  Connection refused
[18:47] <varunendra> Jessica_, I am just trying to help installing the lightdm package. I don't know if that would also solve your problem. Let me know when the package is downloaded.
[18:47] <jmunsch> Pici : thanks a ton!
[18:47] <subb1> Pici, doesn't help..
[18:47] <subb1> :(
[18:47] <Jessica_> yes, i understand  you. thanks. am on it
[18:47] <TJ-> subb1: In the network manager's GUI applet, in the Connection configuration dialog, under the "IPv4" or "IPv6" tabs, the "Method" "Automatic (Only addresses)" option will prevent the VPN from replacing local nameserver or route settings
[18:48] <subb1> TJ-, but I want the new set of NS to be replaced when I connect to VPN. Else, the DMZ domains wont' resolve.
[18:49] <guardian1> hello, im trying to get php5enmod to work in unbuntu 12.04 / php 5.3.10 .... i posted the problem on askunbutu and here last night with no solution yet... http://askubuntu.com/questions/495920/php5enmod-returns-command-not-found
[18:50] <martin1969> hi all. i'm trying to find the mapping of my kensington turbo mouse. in the terminal, this is what i typed: xinput get-button-map Kensington 4 button mouse, yet i'm getting unable to find device error message.
[18:50] <f00dMonsta> has anyone encountered an issue with unity freezing up? the indicators seem to have frozen as well (it moves if I click on them but none of the dropdowns work)
[18:51] <TJ-> subb1: So the 'no resolving' is without the VPN in place? My first step would be to check the messages from network manager in "/var/log/syslog" when the connection is established
[18:52] <hiram> hola
[18:52] <subb1> TJ-, when connected to VPN, the new NS set is placed in resolvconf. Those work very well ! It's when I log out from the VPN, dnsmasq-base comes in to play
[18:52] <subb1> and screwsssss
[18:52] <TJ-> subb1: Hmmm, what kind of VPN is it? IPsec, OpenVPN, PPTP ?
[18:52] <subb1> PPTP
[18:53] <TJ-> subb1: I've never experience that issue, but I use IPsec and OpenVPN. Not tested PPTP
[18:53] <subb1> no TJ- it has nothing to do with VPN.
[18:54] <pyotr> How will I know when memtest is done?
[18:54] <TJ-> subb1: Then check syslog - the nameservers for your local network are usually provided over DHCP, and you'll see them reported in the log if the DHCP server is providing them, and N.M. will 'give' them to dnsmasq to use as its upstream servers.
[18:55] <Nesimo> Salut
[18:55] <Nesimo> Eee ya pas des francais ?
[18:55] <Pici> !fr | Nesimo
[18:55] <f00dMonsta> i have closed all my programs (excluding this xchat and a terminal)
[18:55] <TJ-> subb1: So you're confident the issue isn't caused by the VPN DNS servers being retained when the VPN is disconnected?
[18:55] <subb1> TJ-, yep. not vpn at all
[18:56] <subb1> TJ-, ok let's forget about VPN. it still fails to resolve names when I power on the laptop after a shutdown.! :(
[18:56] <amanthakur> Hiu guys, i need to develop a small GUI for ubuntu in fluxbox window environment. Does any one have experience with fluxbox environment???
[18:56] <TJ-> subb1: OK, so focus on the DHCP side then, check what is received via the log
[18:56] <amanthakur> Hiu guys, i need to develop a small GUI application for ubuntu in fluxbox window environment. Does any one have experience with fluxbox environment???
[18:56] <TJ-> subb1: there are circumstances where the VPN DNS servers could be retained and re-used on reboot, which is why I'm asking those questions
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> amanthakur  there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[18:57] <subb1> TJ-, no they're not. I don't see them in resolvonf nor do I see them via nm-tool .
[18:57] <amanthakur> MonkeyDust, thanks
[18:58] <netameta> How can i clone a private ripositoy from github // commit and push etc ?
[18:58] <jmunsch> Pici : this would indicate that the router does not have port 80 open?
[18:58] <pyotr> So I'm running memtest to try to figure out why Ubuntu sometimes fully freezes - how will I know when memtest is done?
[18:58] <Pici> jmunsch: correct
[19:01] <loa> pyotr, i think 20 minutes will be enought)
[19:01] <TJ-> subb1: you wouldn't see them in "/etc/resolv.conf" - that is a symlink to "/run/resolvconf/resolv.conf" which simply points to the local dnsmaq instance, which is usually launched and managed by Network Manager, which uses the Dbus to set the servers
[19:01] <pyotr> Thank you loa! I'll check back then
[19:01]  * pyotr afk
[19:02] <subb1> TJ-, ok anyting to look out for when I reboot next?
[19:02] <TJ-> subb1: So, what does syslog show when the DHCP lease is accepted; something like "NetworkManager[2133]: <info>   nameserver '10.254.1.254'"
[19:03] <TJ-> subb1: you'd expect to see something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7776671/
[19:03] <Jessica_> varenendra/dafkins: it looks like the idea with dumping  afile in the shared_folder will not work because the VM does not display the new file i dumped in through windows
[19:03] <subb1> TJ-, ok budd. i'll check that
[19:04] <martin1969> can someone help me with key mapping a kensington turbo mouse?
[19:04] <varunendra> Jessica_, I already suspected that. The vm shared folder only works when the 'vmware tools' are loaded and working. I don't think they do in recovery mode.
[19:05] <daftykins> this is virtualbox afaiui
[19:05] <varunendra> Jessica_, alternative is to use a USB flash drive, although I also doubt that.
[19:06] <varunendra> daftykins, Jessica_ ah, 'Guest Additions' then - different name for similar things - virtual hardware/feature drivers
[19:06] <daftykins> yeah :)
[19:06] <Jessica_> varunendra: i can see  .gz file for the light dm. can't we use that file?
[19:06] <daftykins> i honestly can't think of the easiest way to resolve that one.
[19:06] <JordanJ2> Hi, If I have a OEM windows 8, will I still want to install grub?
[19:07] <varunendra> Jessica_, where do you see that file? the one we downloaded must be a .deb file
[19:07] <daftykins> JordanJ2: what do *you* mean by it being OEM?
[19:07] <JordanJ2> While dual booting with windows and Ubuntu 14.04
[19:07] <JordanJ2> The manufacturer preinstalled it
[19:08] <daftykins> yeah that's fine
[19:08] <daftykins> JordanJ2: pretty sure you were here talking about partitioning the other day
[19:08] <Jessica_> varunendra: when i entered that command you gave me it show me a url and a .gz file. also when i do  whereis lightdm i see  a .gz file
[19:08] <varunendra> Jessica_, current alternatives are - 1) use a USB flash drive, 2) create an ISO with the package, and load it as a virtual disc, 3) create and add a virtual hdd with ext partition on it, using a live ubuntu iso (most cumbersome, but doable)
[19:08] <JordanJ2> daftykins: Yes
[19:10] <daftykins> JordanJ2: two things i would say are: before installing ubuntu, make sure you've burnt any DVDs to backup the recovery partition of your system if available - and secondly, ensure you have all windows updates installed before installing ubuntu too.
[19:10] <varunendra> Jessica_, I'm not sure about the gz file, I don't even think the 'apt-get ...' command should show any, but we definitely are going to use the .deb file, no .gz or others
[19:10] <varunendra> Jessica_, you do have a .deb file now, right?
[19:10] <JordanJ2> daftykins: Done and done
[19:11] <daftykins> JordanJ2: then time to have at it \o/
[19:11] <JordanJ2> I'm just stuck if to install grub or not?
[19:11] <`Yoda> Upgraded from 13.10 -> 14.04 -- Upgrade stopped because of 'errors'. The only errors I could see in the upgrade was these types: https://i.imgur.com/BqyxEFB.png - Is that a good or bad thing? and can I continue using my system w/o clean installing?
[19:11] <JordanJ2> `Yoda \o XD
[19:11] <daftykins> JordanJ2: if you've booted successfully into UEFI mode as is required, you should be good to go - anything it wants to do to install will be needed.
[19:11] <`Yoda> Hi, lol
[19:12] <JordanJ2> And the mount point for the efi partition... /boot/efi?
[19:12] <daftykins> !uefi | JordanJ2 If it says so here it's golden.
[19:17] <martin1969> any know anything about keymapping?
[19:17] <martin1969> i'm trying to set the top left button as backward in firefox and top right button as forward
[19:19] <cemotyz09> !bot
[19:21] <ttykjhjfghchv> hi
[19:22] <cemotyz09> I have a dual boot system is there a way to make that partition available to samba since I have to type root password every time to make it available I'm the only one with permission to it
[19:24] <trijntje> cemotyz09: just open it using nautilus, it automatically makes it read/writable for the current user
[19:24] <cemotyz09> Chmod and chown won't change permissions
[19:24] <cemotyz09> right I want to make it available to other users on my network as well
[19:25] <cemotyz09> My user can access the share just not other users
[19:25] <andrewgay> Hi
[19:25] <trijntje> cemotyz09: you want to make your whole windows partition read/writable for anyone on the network?
[19:25] <cemotyz09> just readable
[19:26] <cemotyz09> but yes
[19:27] <trijntje> cemotyz09: thats still a bad idea, anyone can steal your private information, even passwords etc stored in firefox. But if you still want to put the windows partition in fstab and configure samba to share it
[19:27] <daftykins> cemotyz09: why are you sharing the Windows drive from a booted Linux? why aren't you sharing the Windows drive from... Windows? :)
[19:27] <cemotyz09> I never use the windows partition only for my songs and movies so I just want to make those shares avalilable
[19:28] <andrewgay> Windows suckor
[19:28] <trijntje> !ops | andrewgay
[19:28] <rww> howdy
[19:28] <trijntje> he was trolling here before today
[19:28] <andrewgay> Lol
[19:28] <trijntje> thanks
[19:29] <cemotyz09> So to make sure if I add the windows partition to fstab I could then change permissions to 755 and make the share available?
[19:29] <daftykins> cemotyz09: yeah, you can't apply permissions to the windows drive because NTFS isn't compatible with permissions.
[19:30] <cemotyz09> O ok didn't know that
[19:30] <daftykins> you shouldn't even have a root password ;)
[19:31] <coderman1> alright guys, i accidentally ran dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda10 bs=1G count=1 oflag=dsync on the wrong drive
[19:31] <coderman1> is there anything i can do to recover?
[19:31] <daftykins> nope you've lost 1GB
[19:31] <genii> coderman1: Unfortunately not
[19:31] <trijntje> coderman1: yes, only the first 1G of the partition /sdev/sda10 is lost, the rest should still be there
[19:31] <coderman1> but i cannot see anything on the entire drive...tehres no way to recover any of the data?
[19:32] <cemotyz09> thanks dafykins and trijntje
[19:32] <trijntje> coderman1: did you dd to /dev/sda or to /dev/sda10?
[19:32] <coderman1> trijntje: sda10
[19:32] <coderman1> how can i atleast get the drive to show back up so i can see the files that arent gone?
[19:33] <trijntje> coderman1: I would only mount that partition ro so you dont accidentally do more damage. How many partitions did you have on there?
[19:33] <trijntje> can you put the output of sudo fdisk -l on paste.ubuntu.com?
[19:34] <daftykins> coderman1: this is very risky but you could try - http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/recover-bad-superblock-from-corrupted-partition/
[19:34] <coderman1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7776810/
[19:35] <trijntje> coderman1: so you cannot see anything on /dev/sda10 or you cannot see anything on /dev/sda?
[19:35] <coderman1> trijntje: sda10 shwos 100% used and no files at all
[19:35] <coderman1> daftykins: dumpe2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda10 Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[19:36] <daftykins> did you read the whole thing? *shrug* someone else may have a better idea
[19:36] <trijntje> coderman1: I think most filsystems store all the information about the partition at the beginning of the block, so that all got overwritten. Just unmount the drive and use testdisk/photorec to recover the files
[19:37] <coderman1> trijntje: thats good to hear, the drive isnt mounted
[19:37] <coderman1> it was mounted to /home
[19:37] <coderman1> im not a linux expert..btw ;)
[19:37] <daftykins> don't worry, we caught that at accidental use of dd ;)
[19:38] <Bashing-om> trijntje: Just a thought guys, what is the location of the spare super blocks ? Maybe replace the superblock from a backup ?
[19:38] <Ste__> hello
[19:39] <trijntje> Bashing-om: hm yeah, I thought ext4 also stored a super block at the end of the partition for situations like this, any experts can confirm this?
[19:39] <trijntje> coderman1: what was the partition type?
[19:39] <Ste__> who can help me to change my ip adress please?
[19:39] <coderman1> trijntje: ext4
[19:39] <coderman1> its asking what the partition table type is in testdisk
[19:39] <daftykins> Ste__: your internal network one, behind a router?
[19:39] <Ste__> yes
[19:40] <coderman1> daftykins: i usually use dd to test the performance of a drive
[19:40] <daftykins> Ste__: what makes you feel this is necessary?
[19:40] <coderman1> never seen this happen
[19:40] <coderman1> im a dba, not linux admin though :(
[19:40] <daftykins> coderman1: haha, that's really really bad XD
[19:40] <Bashing-om> trijntje: Have a read here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177756 , see if that helps to restore a super block.
[19:40] <daftykins> coderman1: for future reference i think smartctl has some benchmark tests
[19:40] <coderman1> anyway what partition table type should i choose?
[19:41] <coderman1> intel, efi,humax,mac,none,sun,xbox?
[19:41] <daftykins> msdos
[19:41] <trijntje> coderman1: the one that the partition was before it got deleted  I guess
[19:41] <Ste__> daftykins yes i have a router
[19:42] <daftykins> Ste__: and why do you feel it necessary to change what IP you use behind it?
[19:42] <trijntje> coderman1: after recovery, you can try restoring the partition with the link Bashing-om posted above, that might work
[19:43] <Ste__> daftykins i try to rule a shoutcast server on a dynamic ip but i`m blockt with same ip adress all time eaven it is a dynamic
[19:43] <coderman1> well first i have to figure out what the table type is
[19:43] <trijntje> coderman1: you just said it was ext4
[19:43] <coderman1> but thats not an option in testdisk
[19:43] <amigamagic> hi guys, someone knows a good program for remote desktop sharing ? It should share exactly the same session I have on the server, not a new one, and it should be very fast, like x2go.
[19:44] <daftykins> Ste__: so it's actually the internet-facing IP you want to change, not your internal computer one
[19:44] <coderman1> trijntje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7776836/
[19:44] <Ste__> daftykins yes the public ip adress
[19:45] <ramiro> kuechenstudio
[19:45] <daftykins> Ste__: keep your router turned off for 15 minutes, turn it back on and you should have a new IP if it's dynamic with your ISP.
[19:45] <ramiro> sry
[19:45] <Ste__> thanks
[19:45] <Absolute0> My apt-get seems broken; I get a bunch of unable to connect to my_ip:6789 for any apt-get operation
[19:45] <trijntje> coderman1: I'd guess this would also work for ext4: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk:_undelete_file_for_ext2
[19:45] <Absolute0> How can I fix this?
[19:46] <Absolute0> is there a way to "reset" all apt get configurations to the default?
[19:46] <Monotoko> Absolute0 - it shouldn't be connecting to your environment
[19:46] <Simonor> hi amigamagic. maybe tightvnc does a Linux version .
[19:46] <Monotoko> *IP
[19:46] <Monotoko> what are the sources?
[19:46] <amigamagic> simonor the problem of tightvnc and similar programs is that they are VERY SLOW when I try to connect remotely
[19:47] <Absolute0> Acquire::http::proxy "http://173.255.229.151:6789/";
[19:47] <Absolute0> is that the problem?
[19:47] <Absolute0> In /etc/apt/apt.conf
[19:47] <amigamagic> x2go is very fast, but it creates a new session each time you connect to the remote desktop, but I would like to connect to the same session
[19:47] <amigamagic> so I was trying to find another program
[19:47] <Monotoko> Absolute0, looks like it
[19:47] <trijntje> Absolute0: try removing it ;)
[19:47] <Monotoko> did you set a proxy up?
[19:47] <Absolute0> how do I set the apt-get proxy to socks5 localhost:12345?
[19:48] <Monotoko> change the port to 12345?
[19:48] <Absolute0> man apt-get /proxy returns nothing
[19:49] <Absolute0> Monotoko: that is my question, how do I do that?
[19:49] <Monotoko> Absolute0: <Absolute0> Acquire::http::proxy "http://173.255.229.151:6789/";
[19:49] <Monotoko> change that line?
[19:49] <compdoc> I use xrpd, which uses vncserver. had to do some changes to allow me to log into the same sessions
[19:50] <Absolute0> Monotoko: not working...
[19:50] <amigamagic> compdoc, actually I use xrdp too
[19:50] <amigamagic> but it's slow like hell from remote
[19:50] <compdoc> mine isnt
[19:51] <coderman1> trijntje: in testdisk should i be doing an analyze?
[19:51] <coderman1> also that undelete does show some files available for recovery, but none of the ones i need
[19:51] <amigamagic> compdoc maybe we have very different bandwidth in upload
[19:51] <Monotoko> Absolute0, where is it connecting to?
[19:51] <coderman1> thats on another server though...on the fucked up server it cant even read the partition yet
[19:52] <Simonor> not sure why amigamagic. could be network latency. we have tried tightvnc on windoze vm running on a single core without too much trouble. what's your target graphics setup?
[19:52] <Absolute0> http://askubuntu.com/questions/35223/syntax-for-socks-proxy-in-apt-conf
[19:52] <trijntje> coderman1: I'm not sure, I haven't used testdisk in a long time. You should probably read the manual if your files are important to you
[19:52] <Absolute0> it should be socks://
[19:53] <amigamagic> Simonor, I currently use xrdp and it has more or less the same speed of tightvnc, but it's more stable
[19:53] <Monotoko> Absolute0, looks like that's the case
[19:53] <Monotoko> try it
[19:53] <amigamagic> anyway, there is no comparison with x2go
[19:53] <amigamagic> with x2go it's near like you are working on the real desktop machine
[19:53] <P4RT1KL3> Hello
[19:53] <amigamagic> from remote internet connections too
[19:54] <P4RT1KL3> Hello
[19:55] <trijntje> welcome P4RT1KL3
[19:55] <Simonor> x2go sounds like something to look at when I get back to work.
[19:55] <P4RT1KL3> Thanks
[19:55] <P4RT1KL3> Derek
[19:56] <Simonor> anybody know a good Lua ide?
[19:58] <amigamagic> Simonor I use Geany for many scripting languages
[19:59] <unix4linux> so has anyone ran into the dialog box that shows questions marks with the OK button during the install after selecting your partitions to install on?
[19:59] <unix4linux> I keep getting this when trying to install 14.04
[20:00] <Simonor> geany? Thanks amigamagic!. I'll check it out now on my wdc.
[20:00]  * trijntje is away, good luck coderman1
[20:01] <amigamagic> Simonor, geany is a very fast and light little IDE
[20:02] <amigamagic> I like very much notepad++ on windows, and I think geany is what is closer to it on linux
[20:05] <Simonor> amigamagic, sounds cool. home project so I would like something similar to idle for learning. wdc =world domination centre incidentally :-)  ciao for now
[20:06] <Jessica_> daftkyins: i made some progress ;)
[20:06] <daftykins> Jessica_: oh? use tab complete for nicknames by the way
[20:08] <zacg> I have ubuntu 12.10 installed, when I get propmpted to upgrade to 13 I click install on the GUI popup window and the installation crashes. Any tips for working around this?
[20:09] <daftykins> !eol | zacg follow the last link:
[20:10] <OerHeks> zacg, fresh install of 14.04 would be a lot faster
[20:11] <zacg> ah okay, I might just do that
[20:11] <OerHeks> 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 > 14.04
[20:12] <suleman> how to install 14.04
[20:12] <daftykins> suleman: download, burn to DVD or put on USB flash drive, boot... run install.
[20:13] <suleman> how to use last.fm for hindi songs
[20:13] <daftykins> that is beyond the scope of this channel
[20:14] <jetson> hello folks, i have an acer c720 chromebook and im trying to get the touchpad to work with ubuntu 14.04
[20:14] <jetson> i have been following this guide containing a kernel patch:
[20:14] <jetson> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190187
[20:14] <jetson> however im getting an error while running the script and i had problems following further instructions and advice i found while researching
[20:17] <suleman> how to reset unity in ubuntu 14.04
[20:17] <daftykins> jetson: i don't think we can really help with chrubuntu, are they still stuck on 12.04 ?
[20:17] <eeee> suleman: unity --reset
[20:17] <JordanJ2> Hi, Will I need to mount the EFI partition if the type is already "EFI boot partition"?
[20:18] <jetson> daftykins: i shall clarify, im not using chrubuntu. i removed the rom write protection on my chromebook and wiped chromeos
[20:18] <daftykins> jetson: oh yeah you said 14.04... the problem with that guide is it refers to the older kernel, so there's no guarantee that process will work
[20:18] <daftykins> no doubt that's why you're having issues
[20:19] <JordanJ2> daftykins: Would you know?
[20:19] <jetson> thank you daftykins. how do i (if at all) downgrade to an older kernel that allows my touchpad to work?
[20:19] <daftykins> JordanJ2: know what?
[20:19] <daftykins> jetson: you can't do that
[20:19] <daftykins> JordanJ2: we went over that the last time you came and asked, can you just install it already :P
[20:20] <jetson> daftykins: i suppose my best bet would be reformatting and going with an older version of Ubuntu for now
[20:20] <JordanJ2> daftykins: Yes, but there is no mount as point
[20:20] <jetson> thank you for your insight
[20:20] <daftykins> jetson: no problem, good luck
[20:20] <jetson> have a beautiful night my rich friend
[20:20] <daftykins> lol
[20:21] <JordanJ2> daftykins: http://imgur.com/B8gEdqI
[20:21] <daftykins> JordanJ2: if you're doing a 'something else' install, you mount that partition to /boot/efi manually
[20:21] <eeee> JordanJ2: i think ubuntu automatically detects the EFI partition, you can make a seperate /boot if you want, but it is unnecessary
[20:22] <eeee> daftykins: i dont think he has to mount it manually
[20:22] <JordanJ2> Alright, so should I still have to mount that? I don't see the option
[20:22] <daftykins> eeee: i thought that was under an auto select install, ok
[20:22] <eeee> JordanJ2: no i dont think so
[20:22] <daftykins> lets check in the page i linked you to earlier
[20:22] <daftykins> !uefi
[20:23] <daftykins> "if you use the manual partitioning ("Something else"), the difference is that you will have to set the /boot/efi mount point to the EFI partition. And if there was not any EFI partition on your HDD, you first will have to create it (see the "Creating an EFI partition" paragraph below). "
[20:23] <eeee> "Mount point: /boot/efi (remark: no need to set this mount point when using the manual partitioning, the Ubuntu installer will detect it automatically) "
[20:23] <JordanJ2> Yes
[20:23] <eeee> daftykins: huh ?
[20:23] <JordanJ2> but it looks like Ubuntu already did that
[20:24] <daftykins> ok then, all is fine.
[20:24] <JordanJ2> Okay
[20:36] <AndroidLoverInSF> my openshot is broken after recent kubuntu/ubuntu update, anyone know how to fix it, got broken packages, i'm stuck
[20:37] <ste0> i love this place
[20:41] <AndroidLoverInSF> my openshot is broken after recent kubuntu/ubuntu update, anyone know how to fix it, got broken packages, i'm stuck
[20:42] <ste0> AndroidLoverInSF: what happens when you try to run it
[20:46] <jost> Hi. Recently, Ubuntu randomly installs the package "libapache2-mod-php5". I don't want that package, since I have my own PHP setup. How do I prevent reinstallations of it when ubuntu is update?
[20:50] <ste0> jost: Perhaps you could figure out what is 'requiring' that package?
[20:51] <ste0> what up matt_symes ?
[20:52] <jost> ste0: appearently nothing, since I can just uninstall it
[20:52]  * matt_symes is trying to see if coolbits is available for windows 7 sli cards
[20:52] <ste0> jost: does it show up in /var/log/apt/history.log
[20:53] <Centinel> Other than System76, can anyone recommend a vendor that sells pre-assembled Ubuntu desktop PCs?
[20:53] <ste0> matt_symes: Not enough power?
[20:55] <matt_symes> ste0: Not enough brain power today :) Trying to see if it's possible to overclock 2 sli cards on windows 7 64bit.
[20:55] <jost> ste0: yes - it was installed when some packages where updated today. Among the packages was php5-common, and some more php modules
[20:55] <ste0> Centinel: You would think there would be other players in the game huh?
[20:55] <daftykins> matt_symes: that is not a topic for discussion in here.
[20:55] <matt_symes> no worries daftykins :)
[20:56] <ste0> jost: One sec
[20:56] <Centinel> ste0: Yes, absolutely. System76 is the only one I can find that actually offers support for Ubuntu.
[20:56] <jost> also, php5 was updated, which has that package as dependency, but as "or dependency"
[20:56] <bekks> Centinel: Dell does offer Ubuntu support too, as well as HP.
[20:57] <Centinel> bekks: Good to know. I'll look into them.
[20:58] <Centinel> I work for a small art school that may be interested in moving its entry-level personnel from Mac to Ubuntu in order to save money.
[20:59] <garietyxxx> Sup guys, is there an Ubuntu theme that's based on the Chrome OS gui?
[21:00] <ste0> jost: apt show php5 lists libapache2-mod-php5 as a dependency. I'll see if I can figure out a way to force it not to install
[21:00] <coderman1> i have a checksum running fixing a hard drive and its prompting for every "group" it needs to fix...how can i tell how many "groups" there are total
[21:01] <jost> ste0: it depends on libapache2-mod-php5 OR php5-cgi OR (other stuff)
[21:01] <pinPoint> I have an issue with upgrade
[21:01] <jost> ste0: and php5-cgi is installed
[21:01] <pinPoint> Your current Hardware Enablement Stack (HWE) is going out of support
[21:01] <pinPoint> on 08/07/14.
[21:01] <ste0> jost: Ok, one sec.
[21:01] <pinPoint> i ran the necessary provided update command and it crashed
[21:02] <pinPoint> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[21:06] <ste0> jost: The only thing i can recommend is checking the 'apt show' for each package that was updated (from /var/log/apt/history.log) and figure out which one has libapache2-mod-php5 as a dependency
[21:06] <Beldar> pinPoint, What ubuntu release is it?
[21:06] <jost> ste0: ok - thanks
[21:06] <ste0> jost: Then email the maintainer of the package
[21:06] <pinPoint> Beldar: 12.04.5
[21:07] <pinPoint> 12.04.4
[21:07] <coderman1> Free blocks count wrong for group #241 (32254, counted=32253). does anyone know how to show how many "groups" there are?
[21:08] <Beldar> pinPoint, You will need to show these errors to the channel in  a pastebin , "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[21:08] <Beldar> pinPoint, Give some details and mention any extra repos added.
[21:10] <DavidTenant> Is there any possible way to boost wireless signals?
[21:11] <pinPoint> Beldar: http://pastebin.com/U6VHZvp3
[21:11] <Glorfindel_> Why doesn't the live ubuntu session come with a decent irc client anymore?
[21:12] <mikeg3> Hi how do I set up an l2tp vpn client in Ubuntu?
[21:14] <JordanJ2> Hi, was here a few minutes ago. I install Ubuntu (14.04) and rebooted, I had no option to boot to Ubuntu and wen't straight to windows
[21:15] <buddylist> how do i disable dns masquerading
[21:16] <xangua> Glorfindel_: it never came with a dedicated irc client
[21:16] <asad_> yeah
[21:16] <Glorfindel_> No, but pidgen worked decently
[21:17] <asad_> It did not
[21:17] <xangua> Glorfindel_: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[21:17] <Squarepy> xchat borked on me, on 14.04
[21:17] <asad_> sudo apt-get install linux
[21:18] <Glorfindel_> xangua: I know how to get it, but I was wondering why they would have taken it out
[21:18] <Glorfindel_> I suppose irc isn't as popular anymore so they didn't think it was worth it
[21:18] <Beldar> pinPoint, I said "to the channel", not me. Run a sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade and show all of it in a pastebin. You have to at the least  fix the broken packages problem, or if attached to you installs in that context.
[21:19] <Glorfindel_> JordanJ2: did you install it to the same disk as windows?
[21:19] <daftykins> JordanJ2: you know about shutting windows 8 down 'properly' by holding shift when doing it etc?
[21:19] <JordanJ2> No
[21:19] <JordanJ2> daftykins: no?
[21:19] <daftykins> oh, now you do
[21:19] <JordanJ2> Alright
[21:19] <JordanJ2> I would hold shift while shutting down windows...?
[21:20] <Glorfindel_> yup
[21:20] <JordanJ2> And what does that do?
[21:20] <daftykins> this is because windows 8 kind of does a hybrid hibernate instead of shutting down fully
[21:20] <daftykins> that's why it appears to boot so quickly, as it's actually just resuming from disk
[21:21] <JordanJ2> Ah
[21:21] <daftykins> this *might* be interfering with boot
[21:21] <JordanJ2> So hold shift, shut down and see if anything works?
[21:21] <daftykins> yep
[21:21] <JordanJ2> Will try that, thank you
[21:23] <Deihmos1> why even shut a pc down
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> Deihmos1  to save the planet from glabol warming
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> global*
[21:24] <JordanJ2> daftykins: Nothing :<
[21:25] <rko_> halo
[21:25] <daftykins> JordanJ2: it may be worth trying to check in your BIOS/EFI for boot order options, picking the disk itself over the 'Windows Boot Manager' option may help
[21:26] <JordanJ2> Okay
[21:26] <Glorfindel_> JordanJ2: you said that it isn't installed on the same disk right?
[21:26] <JordanJ2> Correct, same hard drive, seperate partition
[21:26] <Glorfindel_> or are we past this point :P
[21:26] <Glorfindel_> oh
[21:26] <Glorfindel_> ok
[21:27] <dfernand1s> hi
[21:28] <Glorfindel_> hello
[21:28] <Glorfindel_> is there a problem?
[21:28] <dfernand1s> no
[21:28] <dfernand1s> im trying channel for the first time
[21:29] <dfernand1s> *this
[21:29] <eeee> JordanJ2: is this an hp laptop?
[21:29] <Glorfindel_> ok, this channel is for support, if you want to chat you can go to #ubuntu-offtopic and chat :)
[21:29] <dfernand1s> ok
[21:30] <Deihmos1> a PC will use about .5 watts off
[21:30] <Jordann> I appreciate the help daftykins
[21:30] <Deihmos1> I mean in suspend
[21:30] <Jordann> Thank you
[21:30] <Deihmos1> about the same when off
[21:30] <daftykins> Deihmos1: this is not the place for that convo
[21:30] <daftykins> JordanJ2: all working?
[21:30] <Jordann> Yup
[21:30] <daftykins> excellent \o/
[21:31] <paranoiko_koalak> I have a problem with synaptic package manager.when I go settings> repositories it doesn't open:(( what must I do?
[21:31] <Jordann> There was a odd Ubuntu-xx in my BIOD
[21:31] <Jordann> Bios*
[21:31] <Glorfindel_> was the #s 14.04?
[21:31] <Glorfindel_> @Jordann
[21:31] <Jordann> No
[21:31] <eeee> Jordann: yeah, same here
[21:32] <Jordann> Windows is terrible sometimes :(
[21:35] <gurr> Hello! I have a problem with my monitor not turning off properly. It fades to black after 5 minutes like it should, but  then it immediately turns back on at the lock screen. Any idea what that could be?
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> gurr  system settings > screen locker
[21:40] <gurr> MonkeyDust: Yes, it's set to lock the screen after the monitor is turned off which it does. The problem is that the monitor turns back on at the lock screen and then it stays on "forever" when it should sleep
[21:41] <Glorfindel_> Even when you use the button?
[21:41] <Glorfindel_> on the monitor?
[21:41] <gurr> It worked fine up until sometime this week. This morning I realized that the screen had been turned on the entire night...
[21:42] <gurr> Glorfindel_: The monitor is turned off when I use the power button, yes. :)
[21:43] <gurr> I really would like it to turn off by itself when I've been inactive for a while though...
[21:43] <Glorfindel_> I know it's not much of a solution, but using that would work :) Otherwise I don't know. What is the brand?
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> gurr  let the screen turn itself off, you mean?
[21:44] <gurr> It's an old asus laptop. don't know the exact model. But like I said, it has worked fine for years. Don't know what caused it to stop working now....
[21:45] <sarahS> so, i have to backup my ubuntu server to a file to give to my corporate overlords so that they can run it from a VM.
[21:46] <Glorfindel_> ah, so it used to work. What if anything happened to change that? Updated the os?
[21:46] <daftykins> sarahS: ok, is it a VPS online, or local?
[21:46] <sarahS> i've tried creating an image of the drive with clonezilla, but the resulting image is a folder?  i was expecting a .is
[21:46] <sarahS> .iso
[21:46] <sarahS> local
[21:46] <daftykins> you might want to read clonezilla documentation a little more closely
[21:47] <sarahS> well...im wondering if clonezilla is even the right approach
[21:47] <gurr> Glorfindel_: Most likely yes. I've installed every update up until now
[21:47] <sarahS> should i be reading clonezilla documentation or http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/en/man8/backup-manager.8.html
[21:47] <daftykins> sarahS: natty was a loooooong time ago
[21:47] <gurr> Glorfindel_: I'm trying to find out what could've caused it. It's why I'm asking
[21:47] <soman> Why xubuntu offers me updates to older version of kernel? 'uname -r' outputs '3.2.0-66-generic'
[21:47] <soman> '
[21:48] <soman> Xubuntu 12.04
[21:48] <sarahS> oh..how about dump?
[21:48] <sarahS> or bacula
[21:48] <k1l_> soman: ubuntu still supports the kernel shipped with 12.04
[21:48] <Glorfindel_> Well I'm not anyware near an expert gurr :) just trying to get more info until someone who is bumbles along :P
[21:49] <daftykins> sarahS: understanding what virt tech they intend to use might point to an answer more easily
[21:49] <gurr> Glorfindel_: yeah, me neither as you can tell :)
[21:50] <sarahS> daftykins: i was told to provide a .iso
[21:50] <daftykins> mmhmm, that's a misleading request imo
[21:51] <gurr> MonkeyDust: I mean let the monitor "go to sleep" after a certain time of inactivity. It does fade out, but instead of staying in sleep mode it turns right back on again
[21:51] <soman> k1l_: update manager offers me 3.2.0-65-generic as a security update and 3.2.0-67-generic as offered update.
[21:51] <k1l_> soman: so where is the problem?
[21:51] <Glorfindel_> if it is a laptop why wouldn't you just shut the screen then?
[21:52] <soman> k1l_: why it offers two versions one of which is older? What is the reason of such behaviour?
[21:52] <gurr> Glorfindel_: I normally do that. This time I had some stuff running that I didn't want to pause/terminate
[21:52] <Glorfindel_> ah,
[21:53] <gurr> Glorfindel_: But still, if you leave for a while it's nice if it works...
[21:53] <k1l_> soman: the security issues get offered directly after a security issue is fixed. the other later one includes more patchens that were not that imidiately
[21:53] <Glorfindel_> yeah, and it should, not making any excuses :)
[21:53] <k1l_> soman: for specific changes see the changelog
[21:54] <soman> k1l_: ok
[21:54] <Glorfindel_> but if you want a temp solution I would set it so it won't sleep when you shut the cover and only lock. tada
[21:54] <mgw> I'm switching from OS X to Ubuntu as my main laptop… I just got a Zenbook UX302.
[21:55] <gurr> Glorfindel_: Actually, that would probably work fine as a permanent solution :)
[21:55] <mgw> I'm wiping Windows entirely, but need some custom partitioning… do I need to keep any of the partitions that come with it?
[21:55] <Glorfindel_> mgw: and......
[21:55] <daftykins> mgw: no, but boot Windows and make backup media
[21:56] <Glorfindel_> gurr: lol maybe
[21:56] <Glorfindel_> oh nm
[21:56] <Glorfindel_> :D
[21:56] <mgw> daftykins: I have no idea how to use Windows ;-)
[21:56] <mgw> Why would I want backup media? And how would I restore from it if I had it?
[21:57] <Glorfindel_> mgw: get help for windows in ##windows :)
[21:57] <daftykins> most manufacturers offer USB creation tools now
[21:57] <Glorfindel_> but backup is always a good idea
[21:57] <daftykins> mgw: you can continue without if you really want, but i'd recommend it.
[21:57] <Noiro> Hey guys, can I get some help getting ssh working? I downloaded, installed, and have the sshd_config, and forwarded port 22 to the proper machine, but while outside can see other services running on my machine, it can't see ssh. I can ssh 127.0.0.1 though so I assume it's running
[21:58] <daftykins> Noiro: are you sure you forwarded to the correct internal LAN IP?
[21:59] <Noiro> daftykins, I would assume so. It's the same one my MC server runs on. My comp is set as static. THough I just sudo apt-get installed ssh-server, opened and closed the config, and restarted the service
[21:59] <Noiro> I figure default is all I need for what I'm using it for
[21:59] <daftykins> openssh-server, yeah
[22:00] <Noiro> That one, yes
[22:00] <hackal> Hello, please what does /etc/init.d/ folder do or what is it used for?
[22:01] <Glorfindel_> hackal: why??
[22:01] <daftykins> Noiro: i don't know what to suggest beyond the IP being wrong... unless your ISP blocks SSH
[22:01] <Glorfindel_> I don't know
[22:01] <Noiro> daftykins, I just figured it out. I'm an idiot.
[22:02] <daftykins> do tell?
[22:02] <Noiro> Guess which genius forgot to click the 'enable port forward' box beside the service on the router
[22:02] <Noiro> Filled everything out and didn't enable it
[22:02] <Glorfindel_> umm Santa
[22:02] <paulo____> hello
[22:03] <daftykins> Noiro: :D router web admins can be so cruel, good spot.
[22:03] <daftykins> hi
[22:03] <morenoh149> what's a good way to remap my capslock key to escape again?
[22:03] <paulo____> i'm trying to get the source for 3.14.5 kernel. the command here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel (the one with apt-get) doesnt work
[22:03] <netameta> Guys is there a way to save username/password ingit ubuntu client so i wont have to enter my username/password everytime i pull/push something ?
[22:03] <netameta> i've tried git config --global user.name username// git config --global user.password password .. did not work
[22:03] <Glorfindel_> hackal: looks like some shell scripts or something
[22:04] <paulo____> it tells me: Unable to find a source package for linux-image-3.14.5-generic
[22:04] <Glorfindel_> I wouldn't delete it if thats what you are wondering
[22:05] <paulo____> any ideas?
[22:05] <rickylm> Hey I need help with Ubuntu regarding Dual booting with Windows 8.1, Can somebody help or is this not the support channel?
[22:06] <Glorfindel_> this is the support channel
[22:06] <Glorfindel_> did you try the shift shutdown
[22:06] <Glorfindel_> ?
[22:07] <rickylm> I followed this guide http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2014/05/install-ubuntu-1404-alongside-windows.html and everything seemed to go fine until I did the reboot
[22:07] <rickylm> It will not show the GRUB menu at all. If I choose to hit Shift+Restart in Windows, I can get to Ubuntu but other than that I cant get to it.
[22:09] <Deihmos1> is it uefi?
[22:09] <Deihmos1> i think thats the only option
[22:10] <rickylm> Deihmos1:  You are referring to the Shift+Restart?
[22:11] <daftykins> rickylm: did you change your BIOS/EFI's boot device choice? it may be stuck on Windows Boot Manager
[22:11] <Deihmos1> i think you have to select ubuntu at boot if it is uefi
[22:12] <rickylm> daftykins:  Nope. Didnt read that anywhere, I suppose that would be a good start?
[22:12] <daftykins> indeed!
[22:12] <Deihmos1> f10 or whatever option you have to select the uefi boot
[22:12] <Pinkamena_D> How can I quickly run a program in /usr/bin without opening a terminal if it just runs a gui
[22:12] <daftykins> that's a one time thing Deihmos1 , useless for permanence
[22:12] <Pinkamena_D> I thought this was what alt+f2 was for but It does not seem to work
[22:12] <rickylm> Alright I will give that a try daftykins , Should I see something other than Windows Boot Manager when I  go into BIOS?
[22:12] <daftykins> Alt+F2 works if you enter the binary name, depends on the program
[22:13] <daftykins> rickylm: yes
[22:13] <Deihmos1> i am pretty surre i read that is what it is win 8.1 systems using uefi
[22:13] <rickylm> Alright let me go snoop around then, I will be back
[22:13] <rickylm> Thanks
[22:18] <Tarap> Hi ! I have a nerd question
[22:19] <rap424> You are in an Ubuntu IRC chat, all questions are nerd questions =)
[22:19] <Tarap> in my sourceslist deb http://archive.canonical.com/ wheezy partner doesn't work, and ping  http://archive.canonical.com/ wheezy partner doesn't answer
[22:19] <Tarap> (got a debian :) )
[22:19] <Tarap> but ping  archive.canonical.com/ wheezy partner
[22:20] <rap424> pinging that system doesn't respond to me either
[22:20] <Tarap> what is nerd is that I don't really know what is the diff between http://foo.url and simply foo.url :)
[22:20] <k1l_> Tarap: ping doesnt mind the "wheezy partner"
[22:21] <Tarap> yes i didn't send wheezy and min in ping args
[22:21] <rap424> Tarap: http:// just defines the protocol, foo.url is the actual domain name
[22:21] <Tarap> :)
[22:21] <rap424> Tarap: You can have ftp://foo.url and that is valid
[22:21] <k1l_> Tarap: ping is not http. that is the issue
[22:22] <JayneHJKL> ping is icmp
[22:22] <Tarap> here,  ping http://archive.canonical.com dont answer, and  ping http://archive.canonical.com answer ...
[22:22] <paulo____> Hello, i installed a kernel using this: http://www.sysads.co.uk/2014/06/install-linux-kernel-3-14-5-ubuntu-14-04-linux-mint-17/
[22:22] <daftykins> Tarap: wheezy is ancient, are you sure that's what you have?
[22:22] <Tarap> (and  ping ftp://archive.canonical.com doesn't answer too) Thats what I doesn't understand
[22:23] <daftykins> paulo____: are you running Mint?
[22:23] <paulo____> but now I need the source code so I can recompile with debug.
[22:23] <Tarap> wheezy ? ancient ? Is it not the stable one ?
[22:23] <JayneHJKL> wheezy is current stable
[22:23] <paulo____> daftykins: no, i have 14.04
[22:23] <daftykins> oh sorry that's debian talk isn't it
[22:23] <Tarap> I'm back to freedom since a fex days, don't know what is new :)
[22:24] <Tarap> my issue is about the  Canonical Partner Repositories
[22:24] <k1l_> Tarap: for debian support see the debian support :)
[22:26] <Tarap> OK. asked here cause Canonical Partner Repositories is a Ubuntu things.
[22:26] <paulo____> any ideas how to get the source code?
[22:28] <ikonia> paulo____: apt-get source package
[22:29] <paulo____> ikonia: that doesn't work.
[22:29] <ikonia> paulo____: it does
[22:29] <daftykins> paulo____: share exactly the command you ran
[22:29] <ikonia> why are you following a mint guide ?
[22:30] <paulo____> the title is ""
[22:30] <paulo____> "Install Linux Kernel 3.14.5 in Ubuntu 14.04, Linux Mint 17 "
[22:30] <ikonia> ah it's for mint or ubuntu
[22:30] <ikonia> paulo____: why do you want to rebuild the kernel ?
[22:31] <ikonia> what is it you are trying to fix
[22:31] <paulo____> ikonia: i need to turn on debug flags.
[22:31] <ikonia> why ?
[22:31] <paulo____> i'm experimenting with a vulnerability
[22:31] <ikonia> surly a test would be against the official kernel
[22:31] <ikonia> then why are you using a kernel that is not part of ubuntu
[22:32] <ikonia> there are also debug symbol packages I thin k
[22:32] <ikonia> not sure about the PPA
[22:32] <k1l_> maybe that exact kernel version is not on the repo anymore
[22:32] <ikonia> I suspect it's not as it's the mainline ppa
[22:32] <ikonia> worth checking
[22:33] <paulo____> people i was talking to still here?
[22:33] <ikonia> paulo____: yes
[22:33] <TJ-> paulo____: : The source is the linux mainline, use git to clone the main linux repo and checkout the tag related to the mainline build you're installing, then apply the kernel team packaging patches on top
[22:33] <paulo____> ok. the link is: kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.14.5-utopic/
[22:34] <ikonia> paulo____: you need to have that PPA enabled in your system
[22:34] <rickylm> No luck
[22:35] <rickylm> The only way I can even boot the Ubuntu Is if I do Shift+restart to boot from the usb
[22:35] <rickylm> I take the usb out It shows nothing
[22:35] <rickylm> No way to get into ubuntu
[22:35] <k1l> rickylm: install grub into the MBR of the first diesk?
[22:35] <k1l> *disk
[22:36] <raspberrypifan> can anyone help me with an issue with a usb modem
[22:36] <rickylm> Should I still have to do that?
[22:37] <k1l> rickylm: dont know what went wrong on your install. but that sounds like you dont have  a grub
[22:37] <raspberrypifan> the usb modem causes my ubuntu vm to freeze
[22:37] <rickylm> k1l:  I followed this guide to the exact detail.
[22:37] <rickylm> http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2014/05/install-ubuntu-1404-alongside-windows.html
[22:38] <rickylm> What doesnt make sense atleast not to me, if I do get the shift+restart and boot from the usb it boot my install from the hard drive
[22:38] <eeee> rickylm: what exactly are you talking about?
[22:39] <eeee> can you boot into your ubuntu installation?
[22:39] <eeee> (but you have to press certain keys to access grub every time?)
[22:39] <rickylm> eeee:  Dual booting Ubuntu/Windows 8.1
[22:39] <k1l> rickylm: so you did work part 7?
[22:40] <eeee> rickylm: ok, and are you able to boot into your ubuntu installation, but have to press certain keys every time ?
[22:41] <rickylm> eeee:  The only way I can get into the installation is to do Shift+restart WITH my usb plugged in, then it boots the install on the HDD. Without the USB it shows nothing related to ubuntu
[22:41] <rickylm> k1l: Yes I did part 7
[22:42] <eeee> rickylm: the bios might be hardcoded to boot the windows efi
[22:42] <rickylm> Now if I boot my pc and press f10 to go to my boot menu and boot the usb, it acts like ubuntu was never installed. Does that make any sense
[22:42] <eeee> i have the same issue, on an hp laptop.
[22:42] <rickylm> So im pretty much shit out of luck
[22:42] <rickylm> Like it works, then randomly at boot my Toshiba will diagnose and repair and the ubuntu is gone as far as I know
[22:43] <eeee> rickylm: you have to copy the grub .efi file and rename it to the windows .efi name
[22:43] <eeee> to trick the bios into booting grub
[22:43] <rickylm> Ahh
[22:43] <eeee> you'll find the files in /boot/efi
[22:44] <rickylm> Right, but I got to find Windows first. So I imagine I replace the Windows boot efi with the grub one, then tell grub 'Hey, this is where my ubuntu is and this is where my windows is'
[22:44] <eeee> the grub efi is grubx64.efi and/or shimx64.efi (depending whether or not you are using secure boot), the windows efi is called bootx64.efi
[22:44] <rickylm> I disabled secure, so it would be grubx64.efi
[22:45] <eeee> i think all you have to do is replace the bootx64.efi with the grubx64.efi
[22:45] <eeee> (renaming grubx64.efi to bootx64.efi of course)
[22:46] <eeee> (and copying it to the bootx64.efi directory)
[22:46] <digitalrao> what sup
[22:46] <digitalrao> how is everyone?
[22:46] <eeee> just make backups and see how it goes
[22:46] <rickylm> Any idea where bootx64.efi is? I am currently in Windows 8.1 right now.
[22:46] <eeee> it's in /boot/efi/efi/boot
[22:47] <rickylm> So once I replace, I need to edit the grub file and tell it where my windows installation is also, right?
[22:47] <eeee> grub already should know
[22:47] <digitalrao> if you buy Dell are open system and lonovo/IBM
[22:47] <rickylm> So I am assuming I need to hop on over to Ubuntu
[22:47] <rickylm> ?
[22:47] <digitalrao> ya it is free lol
[22:47] <eeee> when you get the grub menu to boot ubuntu, windows should be at the bottom
[22:47] <digitalrao> u can do dual boot it
[22:48] <digitalrao> if upgrade to Windows 8.1 Pro u can do VM's
[22:48] <digitalrao> for free
[22:48] <digitalrao> Hyperloop or Hyperscale , Hypernode
[22:48] <digitalrao> whatever it is called on microsoft
[22:48] <rickylm> Hyper-V ?
[22:48] <digitalrao> ya hyper V
[22:48] <digitalrao> is free
[22:49] <digitalrao> on Windows 8.0-8.1 Pro
[22:49] <digitalrao> windows 8.1.1 is coming out
[22:49] <digitalrao> since Microsoft partner bought Novell/SUSE
[22:49] <paulo____> service packs were better
[22:50] <digitalrao> Microsoft does Open Source is better
[22:50] <digitalrao> codeplex.org
[22:50] <rickylm> Booting Ubuntu brb..
[22:50] <digitalrao> k
[22:58] <murat> sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install
[22:58] <paulo____> hello
[22:58] <paulo____> i gave up finding the sources to the kernel,
[22:58] <paulo____> so now i'm trying this. I'm downloading a linus source
[22:58] <TJ-> paulo____: I told you earlier :)
[22:59] <paulo____> then i just apply the patches here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.14.5-utopic/
[22:59] <paulo____> right?
[22:59] <TJ-> paulo____: : The source is the linux mainline, use git to clone the main linux repo and checkout the tag related to the mainline build you're installing, then apply the kernel team packaging patches on top
[22:59] <murat> sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install
[22:59] <xangua> paulo____: as you were told before, those prepackaged linux .deb have no ubuntu patches
[22:59] <murat> does not work
[23:00] <paulo____> xangua: but the download link has .patch files beside it
[23:00] <murat> how to install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[23:00] <TJ-> xangua: They do have the Debian/Ubuntu build patches, which are necessary to build the .debs from a modified source
[23:01] <xangua> murat: sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[23:01] <paulo____> and I installed it on ubuntu, so they should have the patches
[23:02] <murat> plugin installation is showing
[23:03] <murat> but install flash on the page says
[23:04] <hackal_> hello, I am installing teamspeak 3 server. Should I use screen to keep it running or should I create a service.
[23:06] <rickylm> eeee:  Ok I located bootx64.efi and grubx64.efi
[23:06] <eeee> great
[23:07] <rickylm> Now, I need to take grubx64.efi and overwrite onto bootx64.efi
[23:07] <rickylm> Correct?
[23:07] <rickylm> I need to make backups first though.
[23:08] <coventry> On 12.04, I tried to install the CUDA drvers using the nvidia .deb package and "apt-get install cuda."  It hangs during update-initramfs.  How can I remove the cuda package?  When I try "apt-get remove cuda", it just runs update-initramfs again, trying to complete the install...
[23:08] <eeee> yes, correct, and yes make backups
[23:08] <rickylm> Would I need to mount the boot portion first to over write or will it allow it? I am new to Ubuntu as you can tell
[23:08] <eeee> it should already be mounted in ubuntu
[23:09] <rickylm> So grab should pick up my windows installation once this is done right
[23:09] <rickylm> I just need a reboot after over-writing ?
[23:09] <Ciao> Ciao
[23:10] <eeee> when you booted into ubuntu via grub, did you see windows at the bottom?
[23:10] <eeee> type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | grep windows
[23:11] <eeee> in a terminal and see if you get something
[23:11] <rickylm> eeee: cat: /boot/grub/grub.cfg: No such file or directory
[23:12] <eeee> huh
[23:12] <eeee> what's in your /boot directory?
[23:13] <rickylm> I have
[23:13] <rickylm> EFI and grub
[23:13] <eeee> ok what's in grub
[23:13] <rickylm> grubenv
[23:13] <eeee> no grub.cfg ?
[23:13] <rickylm> Negative.
[23:14] <eeee> are you in the livecd or the installation ?
[23:14] <rickylm> Right now Live
[23:14] <SamwiseGamgee> I have two optical drives, one external and one internal, and none of them work with my HP dx5150 SFF desktop PC.
[23:14] <eeee> oh
[23:14] <SamwiseGamgee> Can you guys help me?
[23:15] <eeee> i thought you could boot into your installation if you pressed certain keys though?
[23:15] <rickylm> I was able to get into the installation earlier but for some reason I cant now
[23:15] <SamwiseGamgee> My internal optical drive is an old HP Model S0HD_16P9S.  It is a DRV DVD ROM 16X, and it has always been problematic, because I can only get it to read text and picture files and execute installation related programs.  The jumper is set on Cable Select.
[23:15] <rickylm> The shift+restart then selecting Ubuntu worked, now it just shows my usb drive and asks if I want to install or run live
[23:15] <SamwiseGamgee> As far as playing audio and video, it has a very unreliable history.
[23:16] <eeee> rickylm: you did get a grub menu before though right ?
[23:16] <eeee> rickylm: you could mount the /boot/efi partition and modify it
[23:16] <rickylm> Yes if I booted into windows, did Shift+ click restart and selected the ubuntu installation
[23:17] <rickylm> But like I said earlier, it would only show the installed portion on my HDD if I had the usb in which confuses me.
[23:17] <eeee> you need these commands: lsblk, to list the partitions, and mount /dev/sdxY /mnt-directory-here, to mount them
[23:17] <paulo____> is it actually possible to do "sudo rm -rf /"?
[23:17] <rickylm> ├─sda2    8:2    0   100M  0 part /boot/efi
[23:18] <eeee> ok it isn't mounted
[23:18] <eeee> i mean it is?
[23:19] <sfsytcy> well i tried to install Lubuntu using wubi and after installation completed  get to reboot i got " Serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /  ???!
[23:19] <vladashram> Anybody familiar with getting Ubuntu to boot on a Mac using its native efi menu?
[23:19] <rickylm> eeee:  Im new to this man haha
[23:19] <sfsytcy> ???help
[23:20] <rickylm> mount /dev/sda2 /mount but its already mounted?
[23:20] <sfsytcy> any idea how to fix that ?
[23:20] <rickylm> err boot
[23:21] <eeee> try sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[23:21] <sfsytcy> ???
[23:21] <rickylm> Done
[23:21] <eeee> ok cd to /mnt/boot/grub
[23:21] <eeee> see what's there
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[23:22] <eeee> sfsytcy: no
[23:22] <rickylm> bash: cd: mnt/boot/grub: No such file or directory
[23:23] <eeee> type cd /mnt/boot/grub
[23:23] <eeee> with the starting "/"
[23:23] <rickylm> bash: cd: /mnt/boot/grub: No such file or directory
[23:23] <eeee> cd /mnt then and see whats there
[23:24] <rickylm> EFI
[23:24] <eeee> ok and in EFI ?
[23:24] <rickylm> ubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt$ cd efi ubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt/efi$ dir Boot  Microsoft  refind  tools	Toshiba  ubuntu
[23:24] <rickylm> 'Boot  Microsoft  refind  tools Toshiba  ubuntu'
[23:25] <eeee> rickylm: ok those are the files you need to switch
[23:26] <eeee> the grubx64.efi are in ubuntu, and in microsoft you'll find the bootx64.efi
[23:26] <eeee> sorry i mean in boot you'll find the bootx64.efi
[23:26] <eeee> rickylm: i just remembered something,
[23:26] <eeee> we have to mount "/" from the installation to check if grub found windows
[23:27] <eeee> do lsblk, and do sudo mount /dev/sdxY /mnt
[23:27] <eeee> for the main ubuntu installation
[23:28] <rickylm> mount: special device /dev/sdxY does not exist
[23:28] <rickylm> Or with sdxy did I need to select where the main installation is?
[23:28] <eeee> yes
[23:29] <rickylm> Ok so I did lsblk
[23:29] <rickylm> Which one would I be looking to mount, I have system and
[23:29] <rickylm> ├─sda8    8:8    0  18.6G  0 part /media/ubuntu/3cdda7eb-8c73-47f3-b5c6-90ec87c2 and └─sda10   8:10   0  22.8G  0 part /media/ubuntu/383270a0-0126-4bf8-95a0-8f411f38
[23:30] <eeee> run sudo parted -l /dev/sda
[23:30] <eeee> it should be the huge ext4 partition
[23:30] <rickylm>  8      309GB   329GB   20.0GB  ext4
[23:30] <rickylm> 10      337GB   362GB   24.4GB  ext4
[23:31] <eeee> ok im guessing one is /home one is / ?
[23:31] <rickylm> Right.
[23:32] <smashash> can someone tell me if using full disk encryption in ubuntu 14.04 will cause any significant performance hit on a core 2 duo/2 gigs ram/mechanical sata hdd
[23:32] <rickylm> I want to say 8 is /
[23:33] <eeee> rickylm: i think they are already mounted
[23:33] <eeee> cd /media/ubuntu
[23:33] <rickylm> 383270a0-0126-4bf8-95a0-8f411f38ae5d  3cdda7eb-8c73-47f3-b5c6-90ec87c21c6d  New\ Volume  System  TI10672100G
[23:34] <eeee> check which one is "/"
[23:34] <smashash> anyone?
[23:35] <eeee> fsck can check file systems for damage
[23:35] <eeee> !fsck
[23:35] <eeee> smashash: fsck
[23:35] <rickylm> sda8 is
[23:36] <smashash> eeee, I dont get it
[23:36] <eeee> smashash: use a livecd and run fsck i guess
[23:36] <rickylm> 3cdda7eb-8c73-47f3-b5c6-90ec87c21c6d/SDA8 contained boot and all of that, while the other contained the Folder 'Ricky' and below that Desktop,etc .
[23:36] <smashash> eeee erm my question was about performance :P
[23:36] <rickylm> sudo mount /dev/sda8 /mnt
[23:36] <rickylm> Right?
[23:37] <smashash> as in how much of a performance loss would it cause to use full disk encryption on that hardware
[23:37] <rickylm> Nevermind, they are already mounted.
[23:37] <eeee> smashash: sorry i thought you were someone else who asked another question earlier :D
[23:38] <eeee> rickylm: yes i told you, in /media/ubuntu
[23:38] <smashash> eeee haha I thought so, np ;)
[23:39] <rickylm> Now what? eeee
[23:40] <eeee> check in the boot directory for grub
[23:40] <eeee> and then grub.cfg
[23:40] <rickylm> Ok I cd boot, then cd grub and grub.cfg exists
[23:41] <eeee> ok type cat grub.cfg | grep windows
[23:41] <eeee> see if anything shows up
[23:42] <rickylm> 'menuentry 'Windows Boot Manager (on /dev/sda2)' --class windows --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-efi-3A6E-F071' {'
[23:42] <eeee> ok great, so grub has your windows installation
[23:42] <eeee> just switch and rename the files
[23:42] <eeee> (back them up first)
[23:42] <rickylm> And a reboot and I should be fine
[23:42] <eeee> and also rename a file called bootmgrfw.efi in the microsoft directory
[23:43] <eeee> just rename it to backupbootmgrfw.efi (dont put grub in its place)
[23:43] <eeee> i dont know if it's necessary but it won't harm
[23:43] <eeee> i guess
[23:44] <rickylm> So I try to rename bootx64.efi in '/boot/efi/EFI/Boot' and it wont let me
[23:44] <eeee> yeah you need root
[23:44] <rickylm> So do it from the term
[23:44] <eeee> sudo mv bootx64.efi bootx64.efi.backup
[23:47] <eeee> you can use nautilus, gksu nautilus /media/ubuntu
[23:47] <rickylm> sudo mv /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot
[23:47] <rickylm> ?
[23:48] <eeee> yeah
[23:48] <eeee> you can directly right it's name btw
[23:48] <paulo____> tsk. it turns out the kernel was compiled with debug symbol
[23:48] <paulo____> *symbols
[23:48] <eeee> sudo mv /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[23:48] <eeee> *right = write
[23:51] <eeee> sorry do a sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[23:55] <coventry> How can I persuade update-initramfs not to hang on kernel/drivers/gpu?  How can I persuade update-initramfs not to hang on
[23:55] <coventry> 	   kernel/drivers/gpu?
[23:55] <coventry> 	   http://askubuntu.com/questions/496243/update-initramfs-hangs-on-cuda-drivers-how-to-remove-complete-update
[23:55] <coventry> Oops. :-)
[23:56] <rickylm> eeee:  Thats it?
[23:56] <rickylm> You said something about bootmgr
[23:57] <eeee> yeah in the microsoft folder there should be bootmgrfw.efi
[23:57] <eeee> just rename it to bootmgrfw.efi.backup
[23:57] <eeee> or backupbootmgrfw.efi
[23:58] <rickylm> I also have that same file in the Toshiba folder, but I am assuming thats for recovery purposes
[23:59] <eeee> yeah i guess so