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Unit193xfdesktop will need to be updated to address the trash bug.01:18
Unit193http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/316/builds/67147/testcases The deadline for checking suite D is soon.02:48
Unit193bluesabre: Does that imply you'll have to do another release+SRU?02:50
bluesabreUnit193: if possible, I'll have a new catfish and mugshot release out this weekend, parole 0.6.2 tomorrow02:52
bluesabreworking on dividing shimmer-themes atm02:52
Unit193Wasn't that thought about before, and rejected for one reason or another?02:53
bluesabreyeah02:54
bluesabrebut apparently ubuntu-gnome is interested in shipping numix, but not shimmer-themes02:54
Unit193I see, Numix is pretty awesome.02:54
bluesabreand we're considering reducing shimmer-themes to just greybird and numix since we can't keep everything maintained02:54
bluesabremicahg: let me know if you need anything from me for the uploads02:56
bluesabreI'll try to stick around for a bit longer tonight :)02:57
* Unit193 tries to think of more things to annoy bluesabre with...03:13
bluesabreO.O03:15
micahgbluesabre: I just finished dinner...will take a look shortly04:49
Unit193\o/04:50
micahgbluesabre: just FYI, for the backport bugs, or SRUs in general, you should include the bug in the changelog05:11
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bluesabrethanks micahg, I knew that, slipped my mind :\11:05
bluesabrexubutrello: card 5911:18
xubutrelloThere's no list called <card 59> on the board, bluesabre. Sorry.11:18
knomeahah11:19
slickymasterWork:)11:19
* bluesabre is not sure how to work this thing11:20
bluesabreanyway11:20
bluesabrehttps://trello.com/c/7qRHFu3k11:20
knomexubutrello, help11:21
bluesabreand https://trello.com/c/2RXHvGiJ11:21
bluesabrexubutrello: help11:21
knomelists11:21
knomexubutrello, lists11:21
xubutrello  ->  Notes11:21
xubutrello  ->  14.04.1 To Do11:21
xubutrello  ->  14.04.1 Doing11:21
xubutrello  ->  14.04.1 Done11:21
xubutrello  ->  To Do 14.1011:21
xubutrello  ->  Doing 14.1011:21
xubutrello  ->  Done 14.1011:21
xubutrello  ->  Postponed11:21
bluesabreok11:22
bluesabrexubutrello: card 59 link11:22
xubutrelloCouldn't find any card with id: 59. Aborting.11:22
knomecard 69 link11:22
knomexubutrello, card 69 link11:22
xubutrellohttps://trello.com/c/aQh4IkER/69-prepare-shimmer-themes-for-gtk3-1211:22
* bluesabre scratches head11:23
slickymasterWorkit's xubutrello, and xubutrello: 11:23
slickymasterWorkand not11:23
bluesabrexubutrello, card 59 link11:24
xubutrelloCouldn't find any card with id: 59. Aborting.11:24
slickymasterWork?!11:24
bluesabreyeah, not playing nicely, enough trello spam ;)11:24
bluesabreUnit193 ^11:24
bluesabreelfy > https://trello.com/c/7qRHFu3k and https://trello.com/c/2RXHvGiJ11:24
bluesabreadded these to the calendar, they should be our last SRUs that we'll need to verify pre 14.04.111:25
bluesabrelet me know how you'd like to coordinate :)11:26
bluesabremicahg: thanks for the upload help :) Would you mind also merging https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu/utopic/xubuntu-meta/add-inxi/+merge/225243 ?11:30
ochosibluesabre: i'll be away for the weekend starting tonight, if you wanna move the xdg-utils MR along, feel free to!11:31
ochosisince upstream doesn't reply anymore that's gotten a bit stuck11:31
ochosiwhich sucks, because the patch actually works and is super-simple11:32
bluesabreochosi: I'll see what I can do.11:34
bluesabrehttps://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/xdg-utils/support_xfce/+merge/22407611:34
bluesabreYou're right, first get it into Utopic, then SRU back into trusty.11:35
bluesabreGo ahead and update https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/130974411:35
ubottuUbuntu bug 1309744 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "Light Locker blanks the screen when playing video" [Undecided,New]11:35
bluesabrewith the SRU template though11:35
bluesabreso we can do it all at once with the single sponsor11:35
bluesabreespecially with trusty.1 so close11:35
bluesabreI'm generally online when canonical is not, so I can't interact live generally11:37
bluesabreI said that twice11:37
bluesabrefail :(11:37
bluesabreand now I need to head to work11:38
bluesabrebbl11:38
ochosibluesabre: the problem is i can't edit that bugreport11:40
ochosiso i can't add the info for the SRU11:40
ochosiso new bugreport?11:40
ochosianyway, g2g11:40
ochosibbl11:40
elfybluesabre: tbh - it doesn't really matter much - there's no testing being done or at least recorded anyway - so just mail the list with it, I was due to call something next week but I'm not going to as the last call was late - so to cut a long story short - do whatever you wish to at the moment :)12:32
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Unit193elfy: "Policykit exec is the way to go, much better.  Oh, and graphical applications will have to ship a policy to work."  Reason it isn't shipped, no packages depend on it (as before) and it's not seeded, though it's installed everywhere for me.19:01
Unit193I've not found a ton on it, but that's what I gathered.19:01
elfyUnit193: it's installed with everything except ubuntu us and studio19:18
elfyand while pkexec might be the best way to go - I don't know why we've gone there before others ;)19:43
elfyI've got policies for mousepad/thunar and terminal here locally19:43
ali1234what else is there except for those three?20:01
ali1234kubuntu has ksudo, no?20:01
ali1234or kdesu20:02
elfyyes20:04
elfylubuntu has gksudo, so does everyone except the three I mentioned :)20:05
ali1234so lubuntu and kubuntu?20:07
elfyubuntu doesn't have gksudo, nor do we and studio20:07
ali1234what about ubuntu-mate?20:07
elfyeveryone else either has that or kdesudo 20:07
elfyno idea - nor do I care about it20:08
ali1234well... you should20:08
elfywell ... I don't 20:08
ali1234they're pretty cool and they share gtk dependency and lots of code with us20:08
ali1234just sayin'20:08
elfyfrankly all I'm concerned about is why we don't install it 20:15
Unit193elfy: FWIW, yes, I had wondered in saucy why it was removed and added it back myself.  Since it's clearly handy, I see no reason why we shouldn't seed it.20:49
elfyindeed20:50
elfyanyway - I mailed the list and added it to the agenda for people to discuss - unfortunately I'll be working then and not available20:51
brainwashdoes it have to be installed by default?20:53
Unit193Sooo, not like we're tracking systemd much, but update: Someone started the work on systemd-shim for cgroups, so we may get 208.20:54
elfydoes it have to not be?20:54
Unit193brainwash: Why shouldn't it be?20:54
brainwashit's currently missing and no one complains20:54
brainwashit can be installed easily20:54
elfyand?20:54
elfywhat's that got to do with it?20:54
brainwashwhy did you drop it then in the first place?20:55
elfyeverything can be installed easily?20:55
elfybrainwash: I've no idea20:55
brainwash:D20:55
brainwashmaybe because there is already pkexec (which requires a policy file for every app)20:57
elfywasn't anything to do with me 20:57
elfyand pkexec is absolutely awesome 20:57
brainwashlike really?20:57
elfyexcept it's completely pointless for us as we don't have any policy files20:58
elfyso which is easier20:58
elfybrainwash: you missed the sarcasm ;)20:58
brainwashbut it is awesome :P20:58
Unit193brainwash: That's all fine and dandy, but way too many packages are missing them so it'd be like saying wayland is great and we should use it now.20:58
Unit193I meant, s/wayland/mir/ ;)20:59
elfyI haven't got the patience for yet another pointlessly circular argument so I'll be off21:00
skellatAll I can remember at the time the issue arose was some discussion about someone needing to run Firefox as root, that being belittled, discussion that the apps that truly needed coverage for pkexec were covered, and that if all else failed you could go "sudo -s" first in a terminal then do your invocations.21:00
Unit193elfy: Alrighty-o.  Tschau.21:00
brainwashjust don't touch it then I guess21:01
brainwashmost people just run "sudo thunar" anyway21:02
brainwashand are not familiar with gksu or pkexec21:02
ali1234ochosi: do you know a way to make a single program using a different gtk3 theme? (don't bother trying to google this if you don't, none of the stuff on the web works)22:57
Unit193So, the docs will need an SRU also won't they? :/23:02

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