[01:18] <Unit193> xfdesktop will need to be updated to address the trash bug.
[02:48] <Unit193> http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/316/builds/67147/testcases The deadline for checking suite D is soon.
[02:50] <Unit193> bluesabre: Does that imply you'll have to do another release+SRU?
[02:52] <bluesabre> Unit193: if possible, I'll have a new catfish and mugshot release out this weekend, parole 0.6.2 tomorrow
[02:52] <bluesabre> working on dividing shimmer-themes atm
[02:53] <Unit193> Wasn't that thought about before, and rejected for one reason or another?
[02:54] <bluesabre> yeah
[02:54] <bluesabre> but apparently ubuntu-gnome is interested in shipping numix, but not shimmer-themes
[02:54] <Unit193> I see, Numix is pretty awesome.
[02:54] <bluesabre> and we're considering reducing shimmer-themes to just greybird and numix since we can't keep everything maintained
[02:56] <bluesabre> micahg: let me know if you need anything from me for the uploads
[02:57] <bluesabre> I'll try to stick around for a bit longer tonight :)
[03:13]  * Unit193 tries to think of more things to annoy bluesabre with...
[03:15] <bluesabre> O.O
[04:49] <micahg> bluesabre: I just finished dinner...will take a look shortly
[04:50] <Unit193> \o/
[05:11] <micahg> bluesabre: just FYI, for the backport bugs, or SRUs in general, you should include the bug in the changelog
[11:05] <bluesabre> thanks micahg, I knew that, slipped my mind :\
[11:18] <bluesabre> xubutrello: card 59
[11:18] <xubutrello> There's no list called <card 59> on the board, bluesabre. Sorry.
[11:19] <knome> ahah
[11:19] <slickymasterWork> :)
[11:20]  * bluesabre is not sure how to work this thing
[11:20] <bluesabre> anyway
[11:20] <bluesabre> https://trello.com/c/7qRHFu3k
[11:21] <knome> xubutrello, help
[11:21] <bluesabre> and https://trello.com/c/2RXHvGiJ
[11:21] <bluesabre> xubutrello: help
[11:21] <knome> lists
[11:21] <knome> xubutrello, lists
[11:21] <xubutrello>   ->  Notes
[11:21] <xubutrello>   ->  14.04.1 To Do
[11:21] <xubutrello>   ->  14.04.1 Doing
[11:21] <xubutrello>   ->  14.04.1 Done
[11:21] <xubutrello>   ->  To Do 14.10
[11:21] <xubutrello>   ->  Doing 14.10
[11:21] <xubutrello>   ->  Done 14.10
[11:21] <xubutrello>   ->  Postponed
[11:22] <bluesabre> ok
[11:22] <bluesabre> xubutrello: card 59 link
[11:22] <xubutrello> Couldn't find any card with id: 59. Aborting.
[11:22] <knome> card 69 link
[11:22] <knome> xubutrello, card 69 link
[11:22] <xubutrello> https://trello.com/c/aQh4IkER/69-prepare-shimmer-themes-for-gtk3-12
[11:23]  * bluesabre scratches head
[11:23] <slickymasterWork> it's xubutrello, and xubutrello: 
[11:23] <slickymasterWork> and not
[11:24] <bluesabre> xubutrello, card 59 link
[11:24] <xubutrello> Couldn't find any card with id: 59. Aborting.
[11:24] <slickymasterWork> ?!
[11:24] <bluesabre> yeah, not playing nicely, enough trello spam ;)
[11:24] <bluesabre> Unit193 ^
[11:24] <bluesabre> elfy > https://trello.com/c/7qRHFu3k and https://trello.com/c/2RXHvGiJ
[11:25] <bluesabre> added these to the calendar, they should be our last SRUs that we'll need to verify pre 14.04.1
[11:26] <bluesabre> let me know how you'd like to coordinate :)
[11:30] <bluesabre> micahg: thanks for the upload help :) Would you mind also merging https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu/utopic/xubuntu-meta/add-inxi/+merge/225243 ?
[11:31] <ochosi> bluesabre: i'll be away for the weekend starting tonight, if you wanna move the xdg-utils MR along, feel free to!
[11:31] <ochosi> since upstream doesn't reply anymore that's gotten a bit stuck
[11:32] <ochosi> which sucks, because the patch actually works and is super-simple
[11:34] <bluesabre> ochosi: I'll see what I can do.
[11:34] <bluesabre> https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/xdg-utils/support_xfce/+merge/224076
[11:35] <bluesabre> You're right, first get it into Utopic, then SRU back into trusty.
[11:35] <bluesabre> Go ahead and update https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/1309744
[11:35] <bluesabre> with the SRU template though
[11:35] <bluesabre> so we can do it all at once with the single sponsor
[11:35] <bluesabre> especially with trusty.1 so close
[11:37] <bluesabre> I'm generally online when canonical is not, so I can't interact live generally
[11:37] <bluesabre> I said that twice
[11:37] <bluesabre> fail :(
[11:38] <bluesabre> and now I need to head to work
[11:38] <bluesabre> bbl
[11:40] <ochosi> bluesabre: the problem is i can't edit that bugreport
[11:40] <ochosi> so i can't add the info for the SRU
[11:40] <ochosi> so new bugreport?
[11:40] <ochosi> anyway, g2g
[11:40] <ochosi> bbl
[12:32] <elfy> bluesabre: tbh - it doesn't really matter much - there's no testing being done or at least recorded anyway - so just mail the list with it, I was due to call something next week but I'm not going to as the last call was late - so to cut a long story short - do whatever you wish to at the moment :)
[19:01] <Unit193> elfy: "Policykit exec is the way to go, much better.  Oh, and graphical applications will have to ship a policy to work."  Reason it isn't shipped, no packages depend on it (as before) and it's not seeded, though it's installed everywhere for me.
[19:01] <Unit193> I've not found a ton on it, but that's what I gathered.
[19:18] <elfy> Unit193: it's installed with everything except ubuntu us and studio
[19:43] <elfy> and while pkexec might be the best way to go - I don't know why we've gone there before others ;)
[19:43] <elfy> I've got policies for mousepad/thunar and terminal here locally
[20:01] <ali1234> what else is there except for those three?
[20:01] <ali1234> kubuntu has ksudo, no?
[20:02] <ali1234> or kdesu
[20:04] <elfy> yes
[20:05] <elfy> lubuntu has gksudo, so does everyone except the three I mentioned :)
[20:07] <ali1234> so lubuntu and kubuntu?
[20:07] <elfy> ubuntu doesn't have gksudo, nor do we and studio
[20:07] <ali1234> what about ubuntu-mate?
[20:07] <elfy> everyone else either has that or kdesudo 
[20:08] <elfy> no idea - nor do I care about it
[20:08] <ali1234> well... you should
[20:08] <elfy> well ... I don't 
[20:08] <ali1234> they're pretty cool and they share gtk dependency and lots of code with us
[20:08] <ali1234> just sayin'
[20:15] <elfy> frankly all I'm concerned about is why we don't install it 
[20:49] <Unit193> elfy: FWIW, yes, I had wondered in saucy why it was removed and added it back myself.  Since it's clearly handy, I see no reason why we shouldn't seed it.
[20:50] <elfy> indeed
[20:51] <elfy> anyway - I mailed the list and added it to the agenda for people to discuss - unfortunately I'll be working then and not available
[20:53] <brainwash> does it have to be installed by default?
[20:54] <Unit193> Sooo, not like we're tracking systemd much, but update: Someone started the work on systemd-shim for cgroups, so we may get 208.
[20:54] <elfy> does it have to not be?
[20:54] <Unit193> brainwash: Why shouldn't it be?
[20:54] <brainwash> it's currently missing and no one complains
[20:54] <brainwash> it can be installed easily
[20:54] <elfy> and?
[20:54] <elfy> what's that got to do with it?
[20:55] <brainwash> why did you drop it then in the first place?
[20:55] <elfy> everything can be installed easily?
[20:55] <elfy> brainwash: I've no idea
[20:55] <brainwash> :D
[20:57] <brainwash> maybe because there is already pkexec (which requires a policy file for every app)
[20:57] <elfy> wasn't anything to do with me 
[20:57] <elfy> and pkexec is absolutely awesome 
[20:57] <brainwash> like really?
[20:58] <elfy> except it's completely pointless for us as we don't have any policy files
[20:58] <elfy> so which is easier
[20:58] <elfy> brainwash: you missed the sarcasm ;)
[20:58] <brainwash> but it is awesome :P
[20:58] <Unit193> brainwash: That's all fine and dandy, but way too many packages are missing them so it'd be like saying wayland is great and we should use it now.
[20:59] <Unit193> I meant, s/wayland/mir/ ;)
[21:00] <elfy> I haven't got the patience for yet another pointlessly circular argument so I'll be off
[21:00] <skellat> All I can remember at the time the issue arose was some discussion about someone needing to run Firefox as root, that being belittled, discussion that the apps that truly needed coverage for pkexec were covered, and that if all else failed you could go "sudo -s" first in a terminal then do your invocations.
[21:00] <Unit193> elfy: Alrighty-o.  Tschau.
[21:01] <brainwash> just don't touch it then I guess
[21:02] <brainwash> most people just run "sudo thunar" anyway
[21:02] <brainwash> and are not familiar with gksu or pkexec
[22:57] <ali1234> ochosi: do you know a way to make a single program using a different gtk3 theme? (don't bother trying to google this if you don't, none of the stuff on the web works)
[23:02] <Unit193> So, the docs will need an SRU also won't they? :/