[02:05] <esph> Alright, I can't run update-manager at all, and it gives me this error: http://sprunge.us/WSMM
[02:05] <esph> What gives?
[02:08] <esph> The only hits google gives for "ImportError: No module named repository" are quite old (like 2011) and I'm running 14.04
[02:10] <esph> And also this is a new install; the computer didn't even exist before this year.
[02:23] <xubuntu396> hi
[02:26] <bluesabre> esph: try "sudo apt-get install python-gi", looks like your system is missing the python gtk libraries
[02:30] <esph> bluesabre: nope, already had that.
[02:30] <esph> I did a standard install, not sure how software-center gets broken that way.
[02:30] <esph> Also, it worked one time right after I installed, iirc.
[02:31] <bluesabre> ok, do you have any local installs of python?
[02:31] <esph> bluesabre: nope
[02:31] <bluesabre> hm
[02:33] <bluesabre> so "which python" lists "/usr/bin/python"?
[02:33] <Unit193> python3-gi that is.
[02:34] <bluesabre> oh right, software-center uses py3 now
[02:34] <esph> bluesabre: yeah
[02:34] <esph> bluesabre: did that change in the past couple of weeks?
[02:34] <bluesabre> not recently, I think that's been that way for a few releases
[02:34] <esph> I'll check anyway.
[02:35] <esph> nope, had that too.
[02:35] <esph> Again, it worked once (I installed vim that way)
[02:36] <bluesabre> right
[02:36] <bluesabre> does /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gi/repository/ exist?
[02:36]  * Unit193 ponders why any vim user wouldn't use apt/apt-get/apt-cache commands.
[02:36] <esph> Unit193: here's the output I'm seeing, if you didn't feel like reading up above: http://sprunge.us/WSMM
[02:37] <esph> Unit193: one reason was because I wanted to test out the ways in which my sister would use the system, since it's hers.
[02:37] <Unit193> esph: You'll have better luck with bluesabre, he knows python and might have used USC.  I just reminded it was py3.
[02:37] <Unit193> And, I see.
[02:39] <bluesabre> actually, might not be py3 judging by the script... try this:
[02:39] <bluesabre> /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/software-center
[02:39] <esph> bluesabre: yeah, I've got an __init__.py and a __pycache__ dir in there.
[02:39] <esph> alright.
[02:40] <Unit193> Depends: python:any (>= 2.7.1-0ubuntu2)
[02:42] <esph> bluesabre: the output is the same running it that way.
[02:45] <bluesabre> this is my last thing that might possibly work...
[02:45] <bluesabre> sudo dpkg-reconfigure python-gi python-gobject software-center
[02:46] <Unit193> bluesabre: sudo apt-get --reinstall install  perhaps?
[02:51] <esph> bluesabre: can't even do that: http://sprunge.us/KaVe :/
[02:52] <esph> at least that error is more explicit.
[02:53] <bluesabre> yeah
[02:53] <bluesabre> sudo apt-get --reinstall install python-gi
[02:53] <bluesabre> it looks like the python install is messed up somehow
[02:54] <esph> hmm, think that worked.
[02:54] <esph> What's strange is there wasn't a problem initially.
[02:55] <esph> Could this be a strange bitrot issue or something else with the drive maybe?
[02:55] <bluesabre> no clue
[02:55] <bluesabre> maybe a python update failed or didn't complete
[02:55] <esph> ah, yeah, that's probably more likely.
[02:57] <esph> bluesabre: anyway, thanks a bunch. I probably would have been at it for ages without your help. That initial error message was very opaque :/
[02:58] <bluesabre> glad I could help, hopefully it goes a bit better now :)
[02:58] <esph> Hopefully that didn't happen to any other packages, lol.
[03:02] <esph> bluesabre: oh, btw, do you know what she might have done that could have caused an update to mess up? (if that's what it was)
[03:04] <bluesabre> hard to say, maybe power loss during package update? Unit193, any ideas?
[03:05] <esph> bluesabre: is ubuntu bothered at all by going to sleep during updates? (I'm just guessing that that could have happened, I'm not sure)
[03:07] <bluesabre> esph: I don't know... I'd imagine that it should not be bothered by that
[03:08] <esph> I wouldn't think so either, but it was worth checking.
[03:13] <Unit193> bluesabre: Could perhaps check with debsums, or check to see what's not configured/unpacked.
[06:54] <zruty> Since a while, when someone sends me a link in pidgin, it opens in chrome, even though Inever installed that. How can I change that? How can I get rid of chrome?
[06:55] <bazhang> tried asking in #pidgin ?
[06:55] <zruty> No. Is it pidgin related then?
[06:56] <zruty> FF is set to be the default browser
[09:37] <xubuntu793> Ji
[14:17] <xubuntu915> Does xubuntu have some form of open office?
[14:18] <cfhowlett> xubuntu915 abiword but you can easily install libreoffice
[14:18] <Luyin> xubuntu915: abiword and gnumeric are shipped by default in Xubuntu 14.04, but LibreOffice and Calligra are in the sources
[14:58] <ARM9> is libreoffice java based?
[14:58] <ARM9> or was that only oo.o
[15:00] <cfhowlett> !info libreoffice
[15:00] <GridCube> LO is not java based as long as i know
[15:01] <GridCube> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libreoffice
[15:02] <GridCube> oh, it seems im wrong
[15:03] <xubuntu492> HEllo
[15:03] <xubuntu492> I am having trouble with a bootloop login, where I can login as guest or startx as sudo, but not as user. any help?
[15:04] <xubuntu492> Tried to chown the .Xauthority file but it only made it worse
[15:05] <GridCube> xubuntu492, just purge the .Xauthority and .ICEauthority files, delete them, and let them respawn on your next login
[15:05] <xubuntu492> OK ill try that thanks!
[15:51] <Alfamoon> Hi all, this is my first time using Xubuntu and I am astonished !
[15:56] <derek-g> it seems like xfdesktop keeps crashing|restarting when I delete files from it - how would I troubleshoot it?
[16:00] <ARM9> Alfamoon astonished in a good way?
[16:02] <xubuntu300> Bonjour tout le monde
[16:06] <Alfamoon> of course.. isn't a curse. :p
[16:06] <brainwash> derek-g: open a terminal window and run "killall xfdesktop; xfdesktop"
[16:06] <brainwash> then trigger the crash again
[16:14] <derek-g> brainwash, but where is the actual log?
[16:15] <brainwash> did no messages show up in the terminal?
[16:15] <brainwash> for session log files you can check ~/.cache/upstart/
[16:16] <brainwash> if you are using xubuntu 13.10 or 14.04
[16:18] <derek-g> brainwash, ill try it a bit later - thanks!
[17:57] <m1chael> hello. i have xubuntu 14.04 (upgraded from 13.*) i close the lid on my laptop, and it never recovers. stays at black screen. the color on google chrome is also a bit pixelated in the gray areas. i've tried a lot of fixes, nothing seems to be working. what would you guys do at this point? this makes me not even want to use my computer
[18:20] <bgardner> m1chael: I have the same issue on my netbook upgraded from 13.10, this also happened on upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04.  In my case I stopped using suspend/resume until the devs sorted it out.  Best advice is to submit a bug report and hang in there.
[19:02] <GridCube> bug #1303736
[19:02] <GridCube> bgardner, ^
[19:03] <genii> Probably same as 1303736
[19:04] <genii> Oh, nvm :) Thought it was a later report
[20:10] <bgardner> Hmm on closer inspection 1303736 does not match my own experience, I get a full-on Xorg crash.  I'll do more research first and then maybe open a new bug.
[20:35] <WebDawg> fucking dpms
[20:38] <Unit193> No cussing.  Did you have a question about it or something else?
[20:39] <WebDawg> Unit193, you afraid of words man?
[20:39] <Unit193> Nope, it's channel policy.
[20:40] <WebDawg> So the entire channel is afraid of words.  Nice.  Us peasants will be careful with our uneducated sayings.
[20:40] <WebDawg> I am just messing with you man.
[20:40] <WebDawg> Sorry about that.
[20:40] <WebDawg> Yeh, xubuntu seemed to have no effect on dpms.  I had a system I just installed it on and the monitor would keep blanking.  I could not use the settings control panel to do anything.,
[20:41] <WebDawg> I had to disable dpms heh.
[20:43] <Unit193> The interaction between xfce4-power-manager/light-locker and systemd, or the ability to inhibit it, wasn't working properly and that was fixed in a recent upload, but could be a different issue.  Even after installing the fix, you had to toggle something in light-locker-settings in order for it to take effect.
[20:44] <WebDawg> Unit193, you have a link?
[20:44] <WebDawg> If I update, and toggle that deal, I suppose it will work again?
[20:48] <Unit193> Oh bleh, I'm getting the two bugs mixed up, sorry: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/1309744
[22:01] <dashaus> hello!! I've got a problem with xubuntu 14.04, can you help me?
[22:02] <dashaus> Simple question: where can i find lod file?
[22:02] <dashaus> i.e log*
[22:03] <Luyin> dashaus: depends. log of what?
[22:04] <SkippersBoss> /var/log would be a good place to start
[22:04] <SkippersBoss> but not every application uses the default store
[22:07] <dashaus> Well, I try to turn proprietary wifi driver on but application simply "ignores" what I choose and I try to find reasons.
[22:08] <dashaus> I turned it down and play with ndisgtk (unsuccessfully) and now I cann't get back to propriety broadcom drivers.
[22:16] <adrenaline_> dashaus, go to settings manager and click on "Additional Drivers" You probably have your broadcom drivers in there. it will require a reboot when you are done, but if they are in there they are much better than ndis.
[22:20] <dashaus> well syslog is not helpful. The issue is when I choose Broadcome driver and confirm it with my admin pass then there's no effect and in "Additional Drivers" option "Periperial is Not used " is choose again (I use Polish desktop, so forgive my translation).
[22:25] <dashaus> I started software-properties-gtk from terminal but unfortunatelly I got no feed-back in terminal about reasons for no-change. Can you advise me? I don't want to reinstall xubuntu.
[22:28] <adrenaline_> can you see the broadcom card in lspci or lusb?
[22:32] <dashaus> yes,
[22:36] <dashaus> Adrenaline, in software-properties-gtk I can find something like "This device is not working" just below "Broadcom Corporation"
[22:42] <dashaus> Adrenaline, lspci shows my wifi but I can't get any error message from sotware-properties-gtk.
[22:47] <adrenaline_> Sorry I am not familiar wiht "Software-properties-gtk," but it sounds like you have a driver but are missing the firmware. Or you don't have permissions to run the firmware
[22:58] <dashaus> But it all have worked one hour ago! I only stopped using Broadcome driver to try ndis. After turning it off, I cannot turn proprieraty drivers on again and don't know why. Can any one of you help me, please?
[23:06] <sdollins> I gave my grandmother a laptop running xubuntu last week and she seems happy with it. Woo!
[23:06] <sdollins> No more XP.