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| soee | Riddell: the blue breeze window decoration is gone after latest updates, this is intended? | 05:17 |
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| Riddell | soee: I think sgclark repackaged it so it'll now be in a separate package | 07:57 |
| soee | Riddell: ok, this package is not uploaded yet right ? | 08:00 |
| Riddell | dunno, I can see a kde-style-breeze | 08:00 |
| Riddell | soee: install that ↑ | 08:00 |
| soee | Riddell: nope, this one does not brink this decoration back :) | 08:21 |
| Riddell | soee: ah hah, try kwin-style-theme | 09:27 |
| Riddell | that name should be fixed | 09:27 |
| soee | let me check :) so many changes -.- | 09:27 |
| soee | Riddell: also doesn't help :D | 09:29 |
| Riddell | soee: uploaded ~ppa2 with kwin style renamed to kwin-style-breeze | 09:41 |
| Riddell | but same contents, can you not select it in window manager settings -> window decorations ? | 09:41 |
| shadeslayer | I hate tests | 09:41 |
| shadeslayer | I hate them | 09:41 |
| soee | Riddell: i dont have it on the list, i have only oxygen and plastik | 09:42 |
| Riddell | soee: do you have /usr/share/kwin/decorations/kwin4_decoration_qml_breeze/metadata.desktop ? | 09:42 |
| soee | Riddell: yes | 09:43 |
| Riddell | and run kbuildcoca5 for good effect? :) | 09:45 |
| Riddell | soee: ah, do you have /usr/share/kservices5/kwin/kwin4_decoration_qml_breeze.desktop ? | 09:45 |
| soee | Riddell: nope, this one is missing | 09:46 |
| Riddell | there's our problem | 09:46 |
| soee | have only kwin4_decoration_qml_plastik.desktop | 09:46 |
| Riddell | mgraesslin: random question, why the 4 in "kwin4_decoration_qml_breeze" ? | 09:47 |
| mgraesslin | Riddell: no idea, they used to be called kwin3 in the kwin4 world | 09:48 |
| mgraesslin | I don't think we test the name any more - I removed that restriction | 09:49 |
| Riddell | off by one error | 09:49 |
| Riddell | soee: install this see if it helps starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kwin-style-breeze_5.0.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa2_amd64.deb | 09:49 |
| mgraesslin | Riddell: well no, technically kwin5 is the 4th version | 09:49 |
| mgraesslin | in KDE 1 there was no KWin | 09:49 |
| apachelogger | technically kdelibs4 was kdelibs5, didn't stop anyone from calling it kdelibs4 all the same ^^ | 09:50 |
| mgraesslin | no that was only downstream, upstream it was 4 | 09:50 |
| Riddell | I'm sure I remember a window manager in KDE 1 | 09:50 |
| mgraesslin | it was called KWM | 09:50 |
| Riddell | ah, a classic | 09:51 |
| soee | Riddell: force overwrite http://paste.ubuntu.com/7779445/ ? | 09:52 |
| Riddell | soee: yeah go ahead | 09:52 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: no, if you look at the version of the lib you'll see a 5 and not a 4 :P | 09:52 |
| mgraesslin | apachelogger: upstream? I thought that was all downstream due to BC changes very down in the stack | 09:53 |
| soee | Riddell: got the decoration back on the list :) | 09:53 |
| Riddell | yay, thanks for your testing efforts | 09:53 |
| Riddell | soee: although as martin keeps saying, it's buggy and you may not want to use it | 09:54 |
| soee | Riddell: thanks for the fix :) | 09:54 |
| soee | buggy ? :o | 09:54 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: how are version numbers added to bugzilla for SC releases? is there a nice automated way? | 09:54 |
| mgraesslin | buggy is an understatement | 09:54 |
| soee | iv seen small artfacts left after window resize etc, but didn't think this might be related to window decoration | 09:54 |
| mgraesslin | I told people since January that we cannot have an Aurorae window decoration in the release | 09:55 |
| mgraesslin | but everybody ignored me :-( | 09:55 |
| soee | :) | 09:56 |
| soee | btw. thie forst release wont have decoration, qtcurve nor the icons right ? | 09:56 |
| soee | *the first | 09:56 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: no idea | 09:56 |
| mgraesslin | I'm a little bit pissed about it as I will have to handle the bug reports | 09:57 |
| Riddell | soee: the only artwork that's changed by default is the wallpaper, everything else is oxygen I think | 09:58 |
| Riddell | oh and the font | 09:58 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: yeah that was upstream, way back when commit messages were in german I think ^^ | 09:58 |
| Riddell | (which is oxygen, but wasn't default before) | 09:58 |
| soee | Riddell: nice, thank you | 09:58 |
| Riddell | soee: and the plasma widget theme is updated | 09:59 |
| soee | i think the performance is bit better when using oxygen decoration than with breeze | 10:00 |
| mgraesslin | a bit is an understatement | 10:00 |
| mgraesslin | that's actually the main issue | 10:00 |
| soee | :) | 10:01 |
| Riddell | probably depends on your graphics setup, it's slow as molasses for me | 10:01 |
| mgraesslin | well it has to read memory back | 10:02 |
| soee | im on propriety drivers here | 10:02 |
| mgraesslin | which sucks badly | 10:02 |
| mgraesslin | and that's kind of unfixable | 10:02 |
| mgraesslin | but I'm working on a new breeze deco in C++ | 10:02 |
| mgraesslin | http://paste.opensuse.org/75160382 | 10:02 |
| Riddell | :) | 10:03 |
| Riddell | now that's awesome | 10:03 |
| mgraesslin | of course it is, it's the magical unicorn Jos asked for | 10:03 |
| mgraesslin | only the "donate now" sign is missing | 10:03 |
| Riddell | :) | 10:04 |
| mgraesslin | but I also have John's dollar button: http://paste.opensuse.org/83183328 | 10:05 |
| Riddell | genius | 10:06 |
| soee | hmm, when using white theme, the loading screen or the screen locked theme is dark, and when using dark theme the both mentioned are white :) | 10:23 |
| soee | this is how it should be ? :) | 10:23 |
| Riddell | soee: white theme of what? | 10:30 |
| soee | Riddell: plasma theme | 10:31 |
| soee | we have breeze white and dark | 10:31 |
| soee | when breeze white is set, try to lock your screen, than you will have dark theme used on that screen | 10:32 |
| Riddell | oh aye | 10:33 |
| Riddell | soee: I think that's how it is supposed to be, on lock screen the widgets are dark on dark theme (background stripe is lighter) | 10:33 |
| soee | so the same will be with lightdm/sddm ? dark login screen and white plasma theme ? :) | 10:35 |
| Riddell | dunno, up to the artists | 10:36 |
| shadeslayer | sigh | 10:47 |
| shadeslayer | I hate copyright files | 10:47 |
| shadeslayer | not sure if I've said that before | 10:48 |
| apachelogger | only every other week | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer | I should hire someone via amazon mechanical turk | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer | to do this | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer | I'd even go as far as saying that populating debian/copyright is better than alcohol at killing brain cells | 10:49 |
| Riddell | oh that's an excellent idea for updating the bugzilla verion numbers for Plasma 5 | 10:49 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: well, not really | 10:49 |
| shadeslayer | because they'd have to have admin privilliges | 10:49 |
| shadeslayer | could screw up bugzilla for all you know | 10:49 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: want to kill some brain cells? | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | (they need limited admin privs) | 10:50 |
| Riddell | well that's easy to automate, heck I can just give them my password | 10:50 |
| Riddell | seems to be hard to automate adding a line to a database for the version number | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | no? | 10:51 |
| apachelogger | the page I linked to you even has example code | 10:51 |
| Riddell | right but that's on a server which I have no access to | 10:53 |
| Riddell | and it's in perl | 10:53 |
| Riddell | which I learnt once and then I learnt cobol and then I got over my youthful sillyness | 10:54 |
| apachelogger | not hard then | 10:54 |
| apachelogger | oh, ktux is still running | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | I totally don't get this app | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: someone should axe everything in the kdetoys module I am reasonable certain nothing is maintained there and nothing is worth maintaining either | 10:56 |
| mgraesslin | but I want a little tux walking over my panel | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | yeah, but, that's not what it does | 10:56 |
| * mgraesslin is not sure whether it was a good idea to say that, I don't want to become the maintainer | 10:56 | |
| yofel | but, but, kteatime! | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | it's a screensaver in a window, a very cheap screensaver I might add -.- | 10:56 |
| mgraesslin | there's also kamor or something like that | 10:57 |
| yofel | it's amor | 10:57 |
| mgraesslin | yes and kteatime is important | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | teamtime can be kdeutils | 10:57 |
| mgraesslin | or just a plasmoid | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | that plasmoid still could live in kdeutils though :P | 10:58 |
| mgraesslin | or in plasma-workspace | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | anywhere but kdetoys | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | it could do it like oxygen-font and live in kdereview for half a year xD | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: Conflicting tags: | 11:01 |
| shadeslayer | 5.0.0-0ubuntu1 | 11:01 |
| shadeslayer | so yeah, bzr can't delete tags | 11:02 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 11:02 |
| Riddell | http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/beta/en/user-reference/tag-help.html " | 11:02 |
| Riddell | Create, remove or modify a tag naming a revision." | 11:03 |
| Riddell | can too | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | everything can delete tags | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | even svn | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | for in svn tags are copies | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | xD | 11:03 |
| soee | Riddell: some parts of kde 4.14 are going to be included in unicorn ? | 11:06 |
| Riddell | soee: all of it | 11:06 |
| Riddell | assuming someone gets round to packaging it | 11:06 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: can you check kcoreaddons | 11:09 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: where? | 11:09 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: just uploaded it to the archive | 11:10 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 11:23 |
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| allee | installed utopic, added ppa next-utopic, now lightdm an startkde complain: Could not start D-bus. Can you call qdbus? and greeter is apprear again. | 11:51 |
| allee | Which log to check to find the bug? | 11:52 |
| soee | allee: install qt5-default | 11:53 |
| * BluesKaj wonders why qt5-default isn't installed by default ... makes no sense | 11:55 | |
| Riddell | because it should be fixed properly | 11:55 |
| Riddell | qt5-default is a developer tool | 11:55 |
| allee | soee: thx. So question is where is the qt5-defaults dependency missing? | 11:55 |
| Riddell | allee: it's not missing, it needs whatever calls qdbus to call /usr/lib/foo/qt5/qdbus directly | 11:55 |
| Riddell | maybe startkde | 11:55 |
| allee | Riddell: as lightdm's greeter also complains is must be somewhere deep in kde libs :-( | 11:56 |
| allee | Riddell: maybe prepend /usr/lib/foo/qt5 to the PATH of the greeter process? | 11:57 |
| * allee search xsession scripts ... | 11:58 | |
| mgraesslin | the message sounds like startkde | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | whaa | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | no | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | no | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | that would be all wrong | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | would cause all sorts of madness | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | what needs to be done is startkde needs fixing | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | to use QT_SELECT=5 | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | actually | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | there should be some check to see which qdbus is installed | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | and use appropriate QT_SELECT | 12:00 |
| yofel | that should be fixed in qtchoose really | 12:00 |
| yofel | +r | 12:00 |
| shadeslayer | until that happens ... QT_SELECT :P | 12:00 |
| yofel | right | 12:00 |
| shadeslayer | I found out that lconvert has the same isse | 12:00 |
| Riddell | qt should just add a version number to their binaries really | 12:00 |
| Riddell | qtchooser is overengineering it | 12:00 |
| shadeslayer | well, qtchooser isn't supported by Qt | 12:01 |
| shadeslayer | or that's what I recall someone saying | 12:01 |
| allee | startkde used QT_SELECT + shell alias, maybe the same for the whatever start plasma5 desktop? | 12:02 |
| sgclark | Riddell: good morning, so you were right, those files are there, drkonqi is a new package in plasma-workspace? | 12:05 |
| apachelogger | maybe qtchooser should be fixed | 12:23 |
| allee | how unity handling it? AFAIR v8 is qt5 and before qt4 so they have the same problem | 12:37 |
| allee | shadeslayer: How about in plasma.desktop Exec=env QT_SELECT="qt5 qdbus" /usr/bin/startkde and qt4 in kde-plama.desktop | 12:45 |
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| apachelogger | that does not fix the bug | 12:45 |
| * allee checks what qt5-default does to understand what the 'bug' is | 12:46 | |
| * BluesKaj thinks his move to install qt5-plasma etc is a mistake...too many basic operations aren't working, like copy and paste using the mouse and associated dialogs...at least ctrl+c and ctrl+v work ...new themes fail to download etc, but I guess it's early days | 13:12 | |
| soee | BluesKaj: :O | 13:13 |
| soee | copy/paste works for me | 13:13 |
| soee | what new themes > | 13:14 |
| soee | BluesKaj: do you have the old Dolphin ? | 13:14 |
| allee | BluesKaj: I try qt5-plasma to find and help fix the packaging problems/bugs | 13:16 |
| BluesKaj | yes I have the old dolphin allee | 13:18 |
| BluesKaj | yeah , I just checked in kdelool , there no new themes :) | 13:18 |
| BluesKaj | kdelook | 13:18 |
| BluesKaj | there's | 13:19 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I wouldn't make it a separate package | 13:26 |
| Riddell | just keep it in plasma-workspace | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | allee: that would still screw up everything that executes under plasmashell | 13:27 |
| allee | shadeslayer: ? Why? Now I have the feeling I still dont I understand the problem :-( | 13:29 |
| shadeslayer | allee: because then everything in plasmashell would be using Qt5 , and if you wanted to compile a Qt4 app, you'd be screwed | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer | not much different than qt5-default | 13:31 |
| BluesKaj | soee, I tried setting up the dropbox startup script in system settings, but pasting the path fails , the dialog is totally greyed out | 13:31 |
| soee | BluesKaj: oh im not using dropbox, i have my own owncloud server | 13:33 |
| BluesKaj | nice | 13:34 |
| allee | shadeslayer: well, env var are per process (+children), qt5-default is system wide and for all proc (also already running). So env var QT_SELECT in session desktop affect only the started session, so KDE4 and plasma5 in parallel are possible. | 13:38 |
| allee | if QT has such a stupid devel environment we just have to life with it, that during compile one has to explicitely choose with qt 4/5 one wants :-( | 13:39 |
| * allee nevertheless considers ENV var as fragile and they should never be the final solution | 13:40 | |
| apachelogger | allee: the problem is that qtchooser doesn't have appropriate fallback tech and that priority is all screwed because the default is always qt4 unless qt5-default is installed at which point default.conf becomes available | 13:56 |
| allee | apachelogger: isn't the first goal to find a way run a KDE SC 4 seesion and a plasma5 session on the same system? Build environment can always be controled in debian/rules. | 14:05 |
| allee | it's a dirty quickfix but at least a fix until upstream can be convinced to implement something sane. | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | there is a workaround which is exactly the same I made for 4.x | 14:09 |
| Riddell | can someasdfssdfasdfjklsdrgjkl | 14:22 |
| Riddell | bh | 14:22 |
| Riddell | can someone with the login issue test this patch to startkde? http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/DIFF | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | looks wrong | 14:25 |
| sgclark | Riddell: libmm-qt is in bzr ready for your review | 14:32 |
| Riddell | awooga | 14:33 |
| sgclark | Riddell: so I see there are some new tars, did you already replace the uploaded? | 14:34 |
| Peace- | Riddell: btw why on neon 5 latest dolphin have not shell integrated ? | 14:34 |
| Peace- | has* | 14:34 |
| Peace- | => http://i.imgur.com/o1wV8NP.png | 14:35 |
| Riddell | sgclark: nope I've not replaced any which are new today | 14:52 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok I will get that out of the way | 14:53 |
| Riddell | Peace-: dunno I don't make neon 5 but I saw in the announcement they went back to using kdelibs4 kde-baseapps (dolphin) | 14:53 |
| Peace- | ah | 14:54 |
| Peace- | tx for info Riddell | 14:54 |
| Riddell | meh, barcelona internet is being flakey | 14:58 |
| Riddell | sgclark: but hold off on baloo, that tar is broken | 15:05 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ahh ok | 15:05 |
| ScottK | agateau: ping. I have kapidox issues/questions. | 15:08 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: ^^^ working on it. | 15:09 |
| agateau | ScottK: pong | 15:09 |
| allee | Riddell: I've applied your patch, deinstalled qt5-default and rebooted. Autologin was successful | 15:09 |
| Riddell | awooga | 15:09 |
| Riddell | however it's specific to amd64 | 15:09 |
| allee | Riddell: yes :-) | 15:09 |
| Riddell | I wonder how to get that path for any platform | 15:10 |
| allee | how about qtpaths -qt 5... instead of full path? | 15:10 |
| ScottK | agateau: It looks like gv is not available for python3 (at least not in Debian/Ubuntu), so one can't do all of kapidox with python, but you use urllib.parse in src/kapidox/generator.p | 15:10 |
| ScottK | err .py | 15:11 |
| ScottK | urllib.parse is python3 only | 15:11 |
| agateau | mmm | 15:11 |
| allee | err does nnot work | 15:11 |
| ScottK | It's urlparse in python2.7. | 15:11 |
| agateau | ScottK: there is a try for the import | 15:12 |
| agateau | try: | 15:12 |
| agateau | from urllib.parse import urljoin | 15:12 |
| agateau | except ImportError: | 15:12 |
| agateau | from urlparse import urljoin | 15:12 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 15:12 |
| ScottK | Better I read the code and not just grep. | 15:12 |
| agateau | :) | 15:12 |
| allee | Riddell: qtpaths -qt=5 --binaries-dir | 15:12 |
| ScottK | agateau: The python is all just backed to the /usr/bin tools, so it doesn't matter for users if it's python or python3, right? | 15:13 |
| agateau | ScottK: yes, it's an "app", not a module for other Python programs | 15:14 |
| ScottK | OK. | 15:14 |
| ScottK | I'll go ahead and do this as python, not python3, so we can include the gv support. | 15:14 |
| ScottK | THanks. | 15:14 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: yay | 15:15 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: thanks | 15:15 |
| allee | Riddell: but qtpaths give this way the same result for KDE4 session and plasma5 session. Is that wanted? | 15:16 |
| ScottK | agateau: For a future release, the pythonic way to indicate modules are only intended for private use is to lead the name with an underscore, i.e. kapidox/_argparserutils.py or something like that. | 15:16 |
| Riddell | allee: if you have Plasma 5 installed you have no KDE 4 session | 15:16 |
| agateau | ScottK: really? I have never seen this before | 15:17 |
| agateau | or maybe, never noticed it | 15:17 |
| allee | Riddell: having both available is not a goal? | 15:17 |
| Riddell | no | 15:17 |
| ScottK | agateau: Yes. To pick one example that's related, the graphviz bindings have gv.py and _gv.so. The gv.py is the public wrapper to the "private" C extension. | 15:18 |
| allee | so only qt4 and qt5 environment on same system but only plasma desktop or plasma5 desktop | 15:18 |
| ScottK | The csv module does the same trick. | 15:18 |
| agateau | ScottK: I thought the _* notation was only for .so files | 15:18 |
| ScottK | Some people even use it in individual function names within a module. | 15:19 |
| agateau | I sometimes do prefix individual functions in a module | 15:19 |
| agateau | but only if the module is supposed to be "public" | 15:19 |
| ScottK | I could stash the kapidox module in a private space, but then I'd have to do something special for the /usr/bin scripts to find it. | 15:21 |
| ScottK | So, so kapidox is a public module, despite it's intended use. | 15:21 |
| ScottK | Just something to think about. | 15:21 |
| agateau | ScottK: indeed. But one would have to do a "from kapidox import something" to access it, so it's not polluting the public namespace, right? | 15:24 |
| ScottK | Not beyond taking the namespace kapidox | 15:25 |
| ScottK | You certainly wouldn't get anything accidentally. | 15:25 |
| agateau | ScottK: I have always wondered what was the best way to distribute a Python app made of multiple .py files | 15:25 |
| ScottK | Me too. | 15:26 |
| agateau | the Python doc is all about installing modules, there is very little about applications | 15:26 |
| agateau | Which is why I decided to go with installing my app as a module, with a script to start it | 15:26 |
| ScottK | agateau: it's a reasonable way to proceed. | 15:47 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Your changelog entry for kapidox says something about a lintian override being added, but it's not there. Did you forget to bzr add? | 15:48 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon. | 15:49 |
| Riddell | ScottK: dunno so, if I did it's gone | 15:55 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK. I'll take care of it. | 15:55 |
| Riddell | sgclark: new baloo | 16:01 |
| Riddell | baloo;frameworks;2c4042b3cb98e2e0d68a57164faa81ad805fff38;baloo-5.0.0.tar.xz;1f2f0049e70cc207de581de7ee4b99d86d4ad8417901d558722905cf0b0c9594 | 16:01 |
| Riddell | http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-5.0.0/baloo-5.0.0.tar.xz | 16:01 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok thanks | 16:02 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: warning: cannot find binary, udeb or source package -pedantic in lab (skipping) | 16:11 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: lintian -pedantic ~/Downloads/libkf5itemviews5_5.0.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb | 16:11 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: only libkf5itemmodels5_5.0.0-0ubuntu1_arm64.deb libkf5itemmodels5_5.0.0-0ubuntu1_powerpc.deb libkf5itemmodels5_5.0.0-0ubuntu1_ppc64el.deb | 16:12 |
| Riddell | sgclark, shadeslayer: tier 1 is in the archive! | 16:17 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 16:19 |
| ScottK | agateau: Could we have man pages for depdiagram-generate-all, kgenframeworksapidox, depdiagram-generate, kgenapidox, and depdiagram-prepare in the next release? | 16:20 |
| agateau | ScottK: mmm, I never wrote a manpage, I guess I could use help2man or something | 16:21 |
| ScottK | There are plenty of ...2man tools, so whatever works for you. | 16:21 |
| ScottK | agateau: You can look at my pypolicyd-spf package to see an example of how to install man pages using setup.py too. | 16:22 |
| agateau | ScottK: ok | 16:22 |
| sgclark | Riddell: mmm locales were removed from baloo? | 16:22 |
| Riddell | meh | 16:22 |
| Riddell | well spotted | 16:23 |
| Riddell | sgclark: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-5.0.0/baloo-5.0.0.tar.xz | 16:33 |
| Riddell | baloo;frameworks;2c4042b3cb98e2e0d68a57164faa81ad805fff38;baloo-5.0.0.tar.xz;92b5de11db66fe6037606ef34687f78ca626afbee1dea27c3ceb842782dc3af8 | 16:33 |
| Riddell | ok I'm making too many mistakes, time to leave the computer | 16:34 |
| Riddell | ciao | 16:34 |
| Corodius | I know that feeling well ^_^ Have a good break Riddell :) | 16:34 |
| ScottK | agateau: one last thing ... kapidox: privacy-breach-generic usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/kapidox/data/templates/base.html www.kde.org/labels.rdf - See http://lintian.debian.org/tags/privacy-breach-generic.html for an explanation. It might be nice to consider this for a future release (not that I worry about kde.org too much). | 16:48 |
| agateau | ScottK: not sure what I can do there | 16:49 |
| ScottK | As a packager the thing I'd do is wget the labels.rdf file and then patch base.html to use it. | 16:50 |
| ScottK | I wasn't sure that made any sense in this case, so I decided just to mention it and leave it to you. | 16:51 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer, sgclark, agateau: kapidox is uploaded to the archive now. | 16:55 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 16:55 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Probably worth looking at my changes to see how packaging a python app is different. | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer | when my brain is not all burnt out, sure :P | 16:59 |
| ScottK | What year does that happen in? | 17:01 |
| sgclark | Riddell: when your done resting plasma-workspace-wallpapers is in bzr ready for your review. I have to step out for a bit, will be back. | 17:11 |
| ScottK | sgclark: If you want to learn about python packaging, please have a look at what I did to kapidox. I'll be glad to answer questions. | 17:12 |
| sgclark | ScottK: yep! I will take a look when I get back, thanks :) | 17:12 |
| ScottK | Great. | 17:12 |
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| soee | some updates and libkf5dbusaddons-data kept back | 18:34 |
| ScottK | sgclark: Do you mind if I make /debian stuff in kapidox BSD two clause to match the rest of the package? | 18:37 |
| sgclark | ScottK: nope, not at all | 18:58 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 18:58 |
| Riddell | ScottK, sgclark: debian have requested we make the packaging licencing match the upstream licencing for packages, so I guess it would be polite if we changed them all to match the code in the .tar | 19:16 |
| ScottK | Yes. I'm doing that for kapidox | 19:16 |
| Riddell | gosh 4.13.3 as well as 4.14 beta as well as plasma 5 | 19:17 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok no problem, I can do that while I remove the -data packages | 19:17 |
| Riddell | sgclark: magnifico :) | 19:18 |
| * Riddell looks at plasma-workspace-wallpapers | 19:18 | |
| sgclark | Riddell: so I go with Copying file or ? | 19:18 |
| Riddell | sgclark: how do you mean? | 19:18 |
| sgclark | Riddell: many have many licenses, how do I determine correct one? | 19:19 |
| Riddell | oh go for the most liberal | 19:19 |
| Riddell | usually LGPL2+ | 19:19 |
| sgclark | ok | 19:19 |
| Riddell | (I think it's unnecessary but I like to keep Debian happy so they can use our packaging) | 19:19 |
| sgclark | right, that is what I wan too | 19:20 |
| sgclark | s/wan/want/ | 19:20 |
| kubotu | sgclark meant: "right, that is what I want too" | 19:20 |
| Riddell | hmm, seems upstream (me) is quite inconsistent with plasma-workspace-wallpapers licencing | 19:22 |
| sgclark | Riddell: shadeslayer: with frameworks in archive, is there anything I do differently? I still use same bzr ? | 19:22 |
| Riddell | I'll have to send myself a polite e-mail to ask me to fix it | 19:22 |
| sgclark | lol | 19:22 |
| Riddell | sgclark: still use knextbzr for now I think | 19:22 |
| sgclark | ok ty | 19:22 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I thought I was suppose to get an email address with membership :( | 19:25 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I think the Debian request is reasonable because it avoids unfortunate questions like "what's the license of this patch". | 19:29 |
| Riddell | sgclark: should just work I think | 19:30 |
| Riddell | launchpadusername @ ubuntu.com and @kubuntu.org | 19:30 |
| Riddell | assuming you have a primary e-mail set in launchpad | 19:31 |
| sgclark | Riddell: hah! it works, thank you | 19:32 |
| * sgclark changes her email everywhere | 19:32 | |
| Riddell | sgclark: plasma-workspace-wallpapers all good except.. we're on 5.0.0 now, use the 4: epoch we're using in all packages for consistency, no need for debian/install file | 19:32 |
| Riddell | and I'll try to sort out the licencing and copyright holders upstream | 19:32 |
| Riddell | sgclark: don't change your primary e-mail in launchpad, bad things happen then I expect :) | 19:32 |
| sgclark | Riddell: lol yeah, meant in all the packaging stuff. Also, what about the IRC ghost? thought that was in the package too | 19:33 |
| sgclark | Riddell: is LiMux something I want to try for? | 19:40 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I suspect that a two day sprint isn't practical to come across the atlantic for | 19:43 |
| sgclark | ok | 19:43 |
| Riddell | as a far out idea if might be an idea to organise a US based sprint, depends who would be interested in it | 19:43 |
| Riddell | or re-launch camp KDE | 19:57 |
| Riddell | that would be cool | 19:57 |
| Riddell | trouble with camp KDE is I guess most of the people who were keen enough to organise it already went to akademy anyway, and without a team focus it died a bit | 19:57 |
| sgclark | I am not a "social butterfly" :( don't think I would be very good at organizing events lol | 20:07 |
| sgclark | I am trying to start going though, I will be helping LibreOffice at OSCON in a weekish | 20:08 |
| Riddell | oh cool | 20:10 |
| * Riddell snoozes | 20:14 | |
| MintyNinja41 | Hi, I was wondering if anyone knew exactly when KDE Plasma 5 would be available for Kubuntu 14.04 (besides from experimental PPA or similar)? | 20:20 |
| ScottK | MintyNinja41: Never. | 20:20 |
| ScottK | The first non-PPA release for us will be fore 15.04. | 20:21 |
| MintyNinja41 | Oh- because 14.04 is LTS? | 20:22 |
| MintyNinja41 | Right, I've finished downloading the Neon image, I'd like to test it. Thanks ScottK. | 20:27 |
| ScottK | Because 14.04 is already released and we don't do major updates like that post-release. 14.10 won't have it officially either. | 20:32 |
| ScottK | It's not co-installable with KDE4 plasma. | 20:33 |
| mcstr | is bugs.kde.org down? | 20:56 |
| lordievader | mcstr: Chromium tells me my connection is rejected. | 21:02 |
| mcstr | hmm yeh firefox fails to load it here, but kde.org works | 21:03 |
| mcstr | also cant ping bugs.kde.org it says unknown host | 21:03 |
| lordievader | mcstr: Port 80 (and 443) is closed on bugs.kde.org | 21:06 |
| soee | the dark breeze decoration looks nice :) | 21:27 |
| yofel | mcstr, lordievader: b.k.o is down for a server move | 21:29 |
| mcstr | ahh thx 4 the info yofel | 21:30 |
| lordievader | yofel: Check. Good to know. | 21:30 |
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