[00:00] <chspnk> generally, is that a problem having two partitions on it?
[00:00] <wxl> i honestly have not had an experience one way or another
[00:00] <wxl> my gut is screaming bad idea though :)
[00:00] <wxl> on the other hand the fact that it installed at all is remarkable
[00:01] <chspnk> i've always got it with my keys, so i try to have everything i need on it ;)
[00:02] <wxl> before i would put it on another media i'd have the installer check itself
[00:02] <chspnk> sorry about asking one more time..
[00:02] <chspnk> installer?
[00:02] <chspnk> files on the usb?
[00:02] <wxl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck
[00:03] <chspnk> ooookay :D should learn reading
[00:03] <wxl> would help
[00:03] <chspnk> when i'm excited getting something done i sometimes miss some important informations
[00:04] <wxl> it happens to all of us
[00:04] <chspnk> on the other hand side i always had to learn everything on my own, nobody has shown me where to look
[00:05] <wxl> help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com are very useful :)
[00:05] <wxl> also the bot should be helpful
[00:05] <wxl> !help
[00:05] <wxl> well that wasn't very useful :)
[00:05] <chspnk> not really :D
[00:05] <chspnk> as i am no native speaker, i got a language problem too
[00:06] <wxl> http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[00:06] <wxl> oh what's your native language chspnk ?
[00:06] <chspnk> sometimes it's very difficult to get the relly important information
[00:06] <chspnk> german
[00:06] <wxl> !de
[00:06] <chspnk> i like the german ubuntu wiki
[00:07] <chspnk> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/
[00:07] <wxl> there 's no #lubuntu-de but installation questions are often very general, so #ubuntu-de would be good
[00:08] <phillw> chspnk: you can also catch silverlion when he is about.
[00:08] <chspnk> it's pure coincidence that i'm here. that's the first point
[00:08] <chspnk> :D
[00:09] <phillw> chspnk: the guys on mint got fed up of you and sent you here? (I hope this German has a sense of humour) :P
[00:10] <chspnk> well i kind of never hang out in irc
[00:11] <chspnk> as the admin on mint channel wasn't very friendly when i asked about the main differences (regarding memory usage) between lubuntu and mint he told me about this channel
[00:21] <wxl> oops disappeared
[00:21] <wxl> wow that's craziness!
[00:22] <wxl> phillw: md5 checks out with the iso, self-check works fine, but md5 on the media fails (because he's ghot other partitions)
[00:24] <phillw> wxl: I forget know... is this the machine he wants to dual boot with windows, or the replacement machine that will be pure lubuntu while his other machine is away?
[00:25] <phillw> chspnk: could you answer ^^ Seems very rude to be talking about you and not to you!
[00:25] <wxl> oh phillw you got everything so confused
[00:25] <wxl> chspnk: what iso we talking about here?
[00:27] <chspnk> give me some time to answer :D in english it's a few seconds more than in german
[00:27] <wxl> i understand
[00:27] <wxl> unfortunately it's time for me to go home
[00:27] <chspnk> i want to make my stick bootable with the lubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso image
[00:27] <wxl> k 1s
[00:27] <chspnk> i got an empty stick here
[00:28] <phillw> creating a usb stick is currently a lot of smoke an mirrors... chspnk read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OBI#OBI_quick_start_manual
[00:28] <phillw> that will give you a stick to install lubuntu from.
[00:29] <wxl> good night everyone and thanks phillw
[00:29] <wxl> talk to you guys later on
[00:29] <wxl> i got a lawn to mow :)
[00:30] <chspnk> cu wxl and thanks a lot
[04:53] <meee> how can i change keyboard layout permanantly to fransh ??
[04:58] <ianorlin> fransh? do you mean french
[05:01] <ianorlin> go to the menu go to prefrences and then language support and then change layout to French
[10:29] <user123321> please help, how to connect to a wifi hot network? I tried adding the connection but it didn't seem to connect.
[10:33] <user123321> Ah nvm, I saw wifi-radar app in software centre
[14:59] <user13242> How to connect to Wifi in LUbuntu?
[14:59] <user13242> I downloaded wifi radar, but it's asking me to config.
[14:59] <user13242> normally, I'd only have to enter the password.
[15:00] <user13242> It's a wpa/wpa2 met
[15:03] <someguy> hi, I have question
[15:05] <phillw> !ask | someguy
[15:07] <phillw> user13242: from a new 14.04 installation, it is best to connect via ethernet and update the system. It is a known bug, which has been fixed in an update. This will save you having to add things, update and then delete things...
[15:07] <someguy> On lubuntu.net, on bottom of page i found that lubuntu is licenced under creative comons.... wich allows comercial distributing etc, but , when you go to download page there is notice that everything is licenced to canonical and it is different licence, so under wich licence does lubuntu go?I am havily confused :)
[15:10] <phillw> someguy: the documentation is signed to Canonical, and Ubuntu (and all the *buntu's) are trade marked to Canonical. This has allowed them to over-ride cyber-squatters who demand monies for registering various sites. It is a mine field. You may charge for the install media and postage along with anything 'value added' (e.g. support). When ever in doubt have a chat with the trade mark team.
[15:12] <phillw> someguy: I've asked them a couple of questions in the past. As long what you are doing involves advocay, they're pretty relaxed. http://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/contact-us
[15:12] <someguy> So basicly, I can heavily modify lubuntu core , install and create my tools, write documentation and sell it under other name , unassociated with ubuntu, but do I need to ship modified core source?
[15:12] <rafaellaguna> I must speak, because I was involved in this web creation. the only creative commons in Lubuntu is the web and some graphics of it, the logo and the system are under registration of Canonical
[15:13] <rafaellaguna> only "lubuntu.net"
[15:13] <someguy> Ah, ok, well thanks for nice answers, I didn't expect such feedback :D
[15:13] <phillw> you must ship the modified source code and under the open source licence.
[15:14] <phillw> GPL licence makes this quite clear. Canonical do not write the kernel / applications etc.
[15:15] <someguy> So i will need to publish only core and not the software I made and installed,(unles installed software requires so) (I m not native english speaked so I just don't want to get in trouble)
[15:17] <phillw> any software you write that is original can be licensed under what ever license you wish (commmercial licenses are quite okay).
[15:17] <someguy> Thank you very much
[15:18] <phillw> For example. If I want an invoicing application, I have to pay for that. But the system it installs on is free. You do not charge for the operating system, just the invoicing application.
[15:18] <someguy> I want to sell OS...
[15:18] <phillw> does that make it a little clearer? (Free and commercial can be a bit of a pain to understand)
[15:18] <phillw> you cannot 'sell' linux.
[15:19] <phillw> you can sell support
[15:19] <someguy> but ,GPL says it is ok to sell it if you shit source
[15:19] <someguy> ship*
[15:19] <someguy> *facepalms
[15:20] <rafaellaguna> you have to mention anyway, check the different GPLs
[15:20] <phillw> If I recall, it is what I said.... you can charge for media, shipping and support.
[15:21] <phillw> someguy: I'd suggest checking with the trademark team. They are the legal people... we can give a general idea of what it is... But you should always ask them so that you do not get into any problems.
[15:22] <someguy> ok
[15:22] <someguy> Thaks, see ya
[18:33] <raven00> Anyone on Lubuntu and old hardware successfully running gnome shell?