[02:52] <DaD> Wat se jull
[02:53] <DaD> DaD  Lo all.. Any sysops maintaining Ubuntu 14.04LTS AMP stack servers?
[03:17] <DaD> Fellow South Africans I need advice
[05:40] <nuvolari> o/ oh hi
[05:40] <nuvolari> chilly morning in CT o.O
[05:40] <Gremble> hello nuvolari 
[05:40] <nuvolari> oh hi Gremble 
[05:40] <Gremble> It is currently 2 in Pretoria. So I am afraid to get up
[05:42] <mazal> Morning everyone
[05:48] <Kilos> hi bduk1 mazal theblazehen Squirm nuvolari and others
[05:49] <mazal> Môre oom
[05:51] <bduk1> More almal
[05:59] <mazal> Guys how can I see on what port my samba is running ?
[06:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[06:31] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> mazal: sudo netstat -plnt|grep samba
[06:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> replace "samba" with whatever process name may be
[06:32]  * ThatGraemeGuy doesn't do samba
[06:42] <mazal> Thanx ThatGraemeGuy , what you use for sharing ?
[06:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> nothing really
[06:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> have no need for file sharing
[07:04] <charl> good morning
[07:04] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[07:04]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[07:04] <Kilos> hi ChanServ 
[07:04] <charl> haha Kilos 
[07:04] <Kilos> ai!
[07:04] <charl> tab fail
[07:04] <charl> :D
[07:04] <Kilos> hi charl 
[07:05] <Kilos> im typing one hand while other one wraps around a hot cup of coffee
[07:05] <charl> that's a good idea
[07:08] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[07:13] <Spekko> more Kilos
[07:13] <Kilos> hi Spekko welkom terug
[07:24] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[07:24] <Maaz> charl: Sure
[07:28] <Kilos> hi Gremble 
[07:42] <Spekko> Kilos: danki dankie
[07:43] <Spekko> Donno if you guys know about this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad
[07:43] <Spekko> Guy wanted $10 for potato salad
[07:43] <Spekko> He's now sitting on $46k
[07:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> mmmmmmmmmm potato salad
[07:49]  * ThatGraemeGuy drools
[07:53] <Kilos> haha
[07:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: have you furnished your whole house yet? :)
[07:56] <Kilos> ai! ThatGraemeGuy you given me tons of work
[07:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[07:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah, i found i have to make my house bigger so i can make a bunch of rooms
[07:56] <Kilos> need to replace all plnk floors so new things dont float half a block up
[07:56] <Kilos> plank
[07:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> so i build up dirt all around my house, the house as it was will be my basement storage
[07:57] <Kilos> lol
[07:58] <Kilos> but i have 2 lazy boys so can rest offen hehe
[07:58] <Kilos> one up top in the sun weeee
[07:59] <Kilos> did you add that new thing ThatGraemeGuy ?
[07:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> which one?
[07:59] <Kilos> that will only work with new mines
[07:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh, no
[08:00] <Kilos> sorry i went off early last night. it was just too cold here
[08:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://technic.kosyak.info/
[08:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> that's the stuff the mod adds
[08:00] <Kilos> im even using mirrors outside to reflect sun into my room for some warmth
[08:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> chromium, granite, marble and zinc would on ly generate in map chunks that are newly generated, i.e. where nobody has been before
[08:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> and we would have to "cheat" a bit to get rubber trees, i don't think they would start generating on an existing map
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> don't think i'm going to bother
[08:02] <Kilos> np we explore and make new mines and roads. just need the teleport thing to get home and back quicker 
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe one day if we decide to start a new map
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can already use the inventory "go home" button, i have lost count of how many times i explained that
[08:04] <Kilos> yes man i do now ty. got caught a few times because i clicked it to set home where i planted trees underground, but its one way only
[08:05] <Kilos> if it could set more than one home point that would be ideal
[08:06] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[08:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> there is a teleporter mod i can look into
[08:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> you place a teleport pad and then enter the co-ords where it teleports to
[08:07] <Kilos> please do when you have some time
[08:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> we can build a nice teleport pad network
[08:08] <Kilos> ya like between our houses
[08:09] <Kilos> central to us all that is
[08:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> we can build a nice little building near the spawn point which can be the central teleportation station
[08:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> from there a pad that teleports to significant places
[08:09] <Kilos> cool
[08:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> like houses, pyramid, deep mine, whatever
[08:10] <Kilos> that would be great, if it will take co-ords for starters
[08:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2149
[08:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> you enter co-ords and you can add a descriptive name too
[08:10] <Kilos> wonderful
[08:11] <Kilos> whew more to learn
[08:12] <Vince-0> g'day ubuntu-za
[08:12] <Kilos> add more large bags
[08:13] <Kilos> or make it so each bag can carry 4 more without emptying each before moving
[08:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> 4 large bags is enough
[08:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> what do you need to carry? :-o
[08:17] <Kilos> oh my, there is just so much, i spend half my time fetching from chests and bags and thats lots of work because they first have to go into inventory
[08:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> i just can't imagine what you need to carry so much of, my bags are not typically full
[08:18] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> you never need to carry stone, because there's always a million tons of it just under your feet if you need it
[08:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> also another tip, i don't carry steel ingots, 9 steel ingots makes a steel block, and you can convert it to ingots again as you need to
[08:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> same with planks and sticks
[08:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> don't carry a lot of sticks, just carry a lot of wood straight from the tree
[08:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> 1 wood = 4 planks and 1 plank = 4 sticks
[08:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> so for every stack of 99 tree cuttings, you can make 99x16 sticks
[08:21] <Kilos> ya i try that
[08:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> so it doesn't make sense to carry sticks
[08:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> make them and use them as you need them, just carry a 10 or so stacks of wood
[08:25] <Kilos> its like going somewhere by car and when getting there finding you left something at home
[08:25] <Kilos> im already filling my house with chests
[08:25] <Kilos> but teleport will help for forgotten items
[08:30] <Kilos> oh just a thought
[08:30] <Kilos> cant you unexplore the parts of the map where we arent working yet?
[08:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> no
[08:31] <Kilos> then add the new thing and we re-explore them
[08:31] <Kilos> oi
[08:31] <Kilos> well then we just explore further thats all
[08:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> how it works is that the whole map isn't generated when you start a new world
[08:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> as you move around the map is generated in "chunks"
[08:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> a chunk is a cube
[08:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> i think 5x5x5 blocks or something like that
[08:32] <Kilos> ok
[08:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> and as soon as a chunk is generated it is stored in the map database
[08:33] <Kilos> ok lets think
[08:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> so if you add a mod that generates new types of ore, those ores are only generated in newly generated map chunks
[08:33] <Kilos> you still have the flys original map before you went exploring in the north right?
[08:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm not rolling back to an old map
[08:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> every single person who plays would be mad if we did that
[08:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> might as well start a new world then
[08:34] <Kilos> ok you gotta bare with me a bit
[08:35] <Kilos> can one starts a new map and then put existing data in at will?
[08:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can start a new world and retain everyone's personal inventory and bags
[08:36] <Kilos> oh not their homes and so on?
[08:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> but you lose all chest contents as those are stored in the map, not the players
[08:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> no
[08:36] <Kilos> oi
[08:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> lets say your home has a block at 100,35,-100 co-ord
[08:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> but maybe on your new map, those co-ords end up being nothing
[08:37] <Kilos> ok!
[08:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> then your home is in the sky
[08:37] <Kilos> ah
[08:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> plus in the map database there's just a lot of blocks
[08:37] <Kilos> and those blocks arent replacable at will?
[08:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> from the maps point of view 100,35,-100 is a block of type default:cobble for instance
[08:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> but it doesn't know if someone placed that there or if that's how it was originally generated
[08:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> its just millions and millions of blocks
[08:39] <Kilos> im trying to get a picture of how you are seeing it
[08:39] <Kilos> a pile of blocks right?
[08:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> ai
[08:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can't do what you want to do, that's all
[08:39] <Kilos> sorry
[08:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you generate a new world thats a new map
[08:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can only keep things directly related to a player
[08:40] <Kilos> ok then we just explore new places after new mod is in
[08:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> so whatever is currently in your inventory and bags
[08:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes, you can just go start a mine somewhere and before long you will find the new stuff
[08:41] <Kilos> cool
[08:42] <Kilos> we just have to travel more then thats all
[08:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> you don't even have to, just mine straight down in a spot that hasn't been mined yet
[08:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> chunks are not very big, so by about -20 or so you should start seeing new stuff
[08:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> or if you're at the deep, just go down the shaft a bit to around -64 or so and start mining off horizontally
[08:44] <Kilos> oh is the mod in already?
[08:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> no
[08:44] <Kilos> ok
[08:47] <Kilos> the plasma light thing is cool
[08:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> you made one?
[08:47] <Kilos> yeah makes different colours
[08:48] <Kilos> put it above my desk so can read in psycadelic colours hehe
[08:48] <Kilos> i think i left an h out there
[09:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> that teleporter mod doesn't work
[09:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> it was written 2 years ago and never updated
[09:03] <Kilos> oi
[09:04] <Kilos> maybe they can add another button near the home button called places
[09:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: are you the only one playing
[09:37] <Kilos> yip i can go off
[09:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> thanks
[09:37] <Kilos> gone
[09:37] <Kilos> i go do something in the sun
[09:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm done, server back up
[09:55] <Kilos> cool ty ThatGraemeGuy what did you do?
[09:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://technic.kosyak.info/ <-- added that
[09:56] <Kilos> cool
[09:57] <Kilos> just now you will be making nukes
[09:57] <Kilos> i see there are blast resistant blocks you can try hehe
[10:00] <Kilos> i go see how things work on kde
[10:00] <Kilos> wbb
[10:41] <charl> hmmm kartoffelsalat
[10:41] <charl> now i'm also hungry
[10:53] <Rynomster> hi charl, hi Kilos
[11:10] <charl> hi Rynomster 
[11:10] <Rynomster> hows it going in ubuntu land? :)
[11:20] <mazal> Does Ubuntu see a 4TB drive ? Or only 2TB ?
[11:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> 4TB ought to be fine, but you will have to use GPT partitioning
[11:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> installer should be smart enough to know that though
[11:25] <mazal> if I want to format it without installer ? For example adding a 4TB drive for storage
[11:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> parted or gparted will work
[11:26] <mazal> k ta
[11:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> fdisk does not do GPT
[11:26] <mazal> The disks app should work then also ?
[11:26] <Kilos> hi Rynomster  
[11:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> mazal: i'm not familiar with it
[11:28] <Rynomster> Maaz: supp
[11:28] <Maaz> Rynomster: Huh?
[11:28] <Rynomster> :P
[11:29] <mazal> oom Kilos , how did you build a table ?
[11:29] <Kilos> yes mazal  what a job
[11:29] <mazal> I find furnishing my houses frustrating , only so much you can do with square blocks :(
[11:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> home decor mod has a ton of home furnishing stuff
[11:30] <Kilos> you first gotta make small round ones then small square ones then only large table
[11:30] <mazal> Will look into that ta Greame
[11:30] <Kilos> mazal  have you upgraded to minetestc55
[11:30] <mazal> I'm busy with a HUGE building that will have lots of rooms
[11:30] <Kilos> lol
[11:31] <mazal> Haven't received an update nope
[11:31] <Kilos> you have to purge the old one then install the new one after adding the ppa
[11:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> mazal: if you are using boats and tnt mods you should remove them, as they are now included in the default game
[11:36] <mazal> I don't understand , I already have the PPA , why doesn't it update ?
[11:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> the package name changes
[11:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> *changed
[11:36] <Symmetria> quick question
[11:37] <Symmetria> if I'm setting up an authorized_keys file with the keys specified on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors/PushMirroring
[11:37] <Symmetria> whats the exact format of the authorized_keys file 
[11:37] <Symmetria> what do I need to paste etc
[11:37] <mazal> So I must remove minetest and install mintestc55 ?
[11:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> mazal: yes
[11:39] <mazal> The ppa stayed the same ?
[11:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> minetestdevs/stable
[11:40] <mazal> http://ppa.launchpad.net/minetestdevs/stable/ubuntu trusty main
[11:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> that's the one
[11:40] <mazal> That's the one I have already
[11:40] <mazal> kewl
[11:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> don't forget to stop your server first
[11:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe obvious, but you never know ;-)
[11:40] <mazal> Ai , and I just thought my work for the week is done :P
[11:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> and make a backup of your ~/.minetest dir
[11:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> hey, you want to run your own apartheid server, then you must do the work :P
[11:41] <mazal> lol
[11:41] <mazal> I just finished last night putting the machine in , setting up all the backups etc etc etc
[11:42] <mazal> Would have rested this weekend :P
[11:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> Symmetria: the line beginning with "no-port-forwarding..." is what you paste into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[11:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> ~/.shh/authorized_keys expects 1 key per line, with space-separated fields options, key-type, key-data, comment
[11:57] <Symmetria> ok, thanks :)
[12:03] <mazal> E: Package 'minetestc55' has no installation candidate
[12:11] <mazal> Found the problem , for some reason unknown my ppa was hashed out
[12:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> oops :-)
[13:10] <Kilos> wow ThatGraemeGuy  the fridge can carry tons, better than large bags'
[13:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> um
[13:11] <Kilos> better to put a fridge on your back hehe
[13:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> bags can be carried around
[13:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> haha
[13:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> technic mod adds a wrench that can apparently pick up items with inventory
[13:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> so usually you could only put a chest in your inventory if it was empty
[13:12] <Kilos> yes
[13:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> from what i understand the wrench tool allows you to put a full chest in your inventory, with its contents
[13:12] <Kilos> has that changed?
[13:12] <Kilos> ah so we gotta make wrenches
[13:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> seems so
[13:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> you figure it out & report back :P
[13:13] <Kilos> yay then uyou can add a few full bags to inventory
[13:13] <Kilos> will do, just gonna fetch sheep
[14:31] <Kilos> oi ThatGraemeGuy  link for your map please. i got the wrong link here on kde
[14:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://mt.donaldson.za.net/
[14:32] <Kilos> ty
[14:53] <Kilos> ooo found big lava again
[14:53] <Cantide> :D
[14:53] <Cantide> did you eat it?
[14:54] <Kilos> hi Cantide  
[14:54] <Kilos> na it burns
[15:31] <Gremble> It only burns the first time
[15:37] <Kilos> haha
[15:38] <Kilos> inetpro  go home man its cold outside and temp dropping quick
[15:38] <Kilos> yo Tonberry_  
[15:38] <Tonberry_> hello
[17:30] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:42] <Kilos> oi net splits again
[18:18] <Kilos> oi the internet be sicker tonight
[18:39] <charl> hi Kilos 
[18:39] <charl> good evening
[18:39] <charl> whow busy day for me so on a friday
[18:39] <Kilos> hi charl  
[18:39] <charl> lots of problems at work :(
[18:39] <Kilos> ai!
[18:39] <charl> you would say it's friday be quite :D
[18:39] <charl> quiet sorry
[18:39] <Kilos> lol
[18:40] <charl> i don't speaku engerishu
[18:42] <Symmetria> sup
[18:55] <charl> hey Symmetria
[19:11] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight