[01:08] <EleanorEllis> Thunar doesn't remember my ftp passwords even though I check the "Remember forever" box. It seems to call the keyring application and I enter my password there to unlock the keyring but still no joy, so I have to enter my ftp usernames and passwords every time.
[05:42] <nickhilr1> is there a way to get ubuntu studio with just audio packages, like jack, ardour zyn etc and not blender, inkscape, gimp and everything
[06:51] <zequence> nickhilr1: Yes, with 14.04, you can deselect packages
[06:51] <zequence> ..during installation
[07:03] <nickhilr1> oh i meant while downloading the image.. i am on limited internet bandwidth
[07:05] <zequence> nickhilr1: You can get any Ubuntu flavor, and add the audio packages to it
[07:06] <zequence> nickhilr1: just add yourself to audio group, and install linux-lowlatency once you're done
[07:06] <zequence> also, say "yes" to realtime, when installing jack
[07:06] <zequence> all of the audio packages are in ubuntustudio-audio
[07:06] <zequence> so..
[07:06] <zequence> sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio linux-lowlatency
[07:07] <nickhilr1> cool.. what did you mean audio group.. i am new to linux
[07:08] <zequence> nickhilr1: User are members of groups in order to get access to certain things, like the CD-rom
[07:09] <zequence> nickhilr1: sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER
[07:09] <zequence> $USER is your user name
[07:10] <zequence> to see all the groups you are in, use the command: groups
[07:10] <zequence> but, you'll need to logout/login to see changes
[07:10] <zequence> nickhilr1: Just be careful with the "usermod" command. You can mess things up with it
[07:13] <nickhilr1> zequence: so i install ubuntu first and then install audio packages and add my account to the audio group later
[07:13] <zequence> nickhilr1: Yep
[07:16] <nickhilr1> zequence: alright.. thank you :)
[16:45] <aloiece> are the ardour updates (so to speak) streamlined in 14.04? (Not sure I'm using the word correctly)
[16:50] <Jmainguy> which updates
[16:51] <holstein> aloiece: yes
[16:51] <holstein> aloiece: but, the version is what it is.. you dont get an updated version. just maintenance
[16:51] <aloiece> jmainguy: the updates that ardour releases regularly,
[16:51] <aloiece> thanks holstein. yap that's fine
[16:52] <holstein> aloiece: ubuntu is not a "rolling release". if you want the latest version of ardour, you can get it yourself from the creator, who, if youa re contributing, will provide a simple executable.. or, PPA.. such as kxstudio ppa
[16:53] <holstein> what do i do? i am personally a contributor, so i just download the latest from ardour directly
[16:53] <Jmainguy> you have to be a contributor to get ir from ardour?
[16:53] <holstein> Jmainguy: no
[16:53] <holstein> Jmainguy: you have to be a contributor to get the binary already compiled and ready to easily click and run
[16:54] <aloiece> Me too, I only just upgraded to ubuntustudio 14.04 and I was wondering if I'd still "have to" download the maintenance (as you described it well) updates myself or if I'll get them
[16:54] <Jmainguy> Thats pretty lame
[16:54] <holstein> Jmainguy: its opensource.. the source for the latest versions is available free.. and you can make whatever you like with it.. including a binary, or PPA
[16:54] <holstein> Jmainguy: ?
[16:54] <holstein> why?.. it was never promised.. its "as-advertised"
[16:54] <Jmainguy> going through the work to compile it, and then not giving it out
[16:54] <Jmainguy> thats pretty lame
[16:55] <holstein> Jmainguy: you can "go through the work" and give it out all you like
[16:55] <Jmainguy> yes, yes I can
[16:55] <holstein> Jmainguy: if in doing said work, you think its work charging for, thats all the creator is charging for, currently
[16:55] <Jmainguy> "the creator"
[16:55] <holstein> correct... paul davis
[16:56] <Jmainguy> I thought you were a contributor
[16:56] <holstein> Jmainguy: i pay.. thats how i get the pre-complied binary for my use, already ready to go.. and i consider it a donation to the cause, which i support
[16:56] <Jmainguy> ah, ok
[16:56] <holstein> but, the source is there at the site.. and the code gets into debian upstream
[16:57] <Jmainguy> I thought you meant you contributed code, and got the binary for it
[16:57] <Jmainguy> or contributed wiki updates, etc etc
[16:57] <holstein> no.. i just pay
[16:57] <Jmainguy> gotcha
[16:57] <holstein> though, paul may offer something like that, if he needed the help
[16:57] <holstein> i dont know him that well..
[16:57] <Jmainguy> I am sure he wouldnt mind the help, hence open sourcing it
[16:57] <holstein> wouldnt hurt to ask, if one had more time than money, so to speak
[16:58] <Jmainguy> hey diff topic, was there never a 13.04?
[17:02] <holstein> !13.04
[17:03] <holstein> we had an ubuntustudio 13.04.. they are all EOL now
[17:03] <holstein> all flavors 13.04 is eol
[17:03] <Jmainguy> ah
[17:03] <Jmainguy> yeah I am fairly nub at ubuntu, I got to memorize their LTS strategy at some point
[17:04] <aloiece> holstein your name sounds familiar. I guess you're one of the developers (or main developers?) of ubuntustudio?
[18:23] <holstein> aloiece: just a non-code contributing volunteer
[18:32] <aloiece> well so far
[18:33] <aloiece> I'm trying to get into it. starting to study IT in september
[18:56] <aloiece> hei I've seen a ui cpu frequency manager in dreamstudio that I recently tried a live session of. wouldn't that be useful to implement in ubuntustudio as well?
[18:56] <holstein> aloiece: go for it
[18:56] <holstein> i just use an XFCE one
[18:57] <holstein> nothing prevents dick from putting those in debian upstream and getting them into ubuntu
[19:14] <aloiece> how can we urge them to do it?
[19:17] <holstein> aloiece: them? you mean dick? just ask him
[19:17] <holstein> its likely just a repo tool.. i would just look and see what it is
[19:17] <holstein> AFAIK, he's using unity.. you are free to use unity and whatever else you like.. though, its likely just a GTK tool