=== dmitry is now known as Guest61957 [01:08] Thunar doesn't remember my ftp passwords even though I check the "Remember forever" box. It seems to call the keyring application and I enter my password there to unlock the keyring but still no joy, so I have to enter my ftp usernames and passwords every time. [05:42] is there a way to get ubuntu studio with just audio packages, like jack, ardour zyn etc and not blender, inkscape, gimp and everything [06:51] nickhilr1: Yes, with 14.04, you can deselect packages [06:51] ..during installation [07:03] oh i meant while downloading the image.. i am on limited internet bandwidth [07:05] nickhilr1: You can get any Ubuntu flavor, and add the audio packages to it [07:06] nickhilr1: just add yourself to audio group, and install linux-lowlatency once you're done [07:06] also, say "yes" to realtime, when installing jack [07:06] all of the audio packages are in ubuntustudio-audio [07:06] so.. [07:06] sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio linux-lowlatency [07:07] cool.. what did you mean audio group.. i am new to linux [07:08] nickhilr1: User are members of groups in order to get access to certain things, like the CD-rom [07:09] nickhilr1: sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER [07:09] $USER is your user name [07:10] to see all the groups you are in, use the command: groups [07:10] but, you'll need to logout/login to see changes [07:10] nickhilr1: Just be careful with the "usermod" command. You can mess things up with it [07:13] zequence: so i install ubuntu first and then install audio packages and add my account to the audio group later [07:13] nickhilr1: Yep [07:16] zequence: alright.. thank you :) [16:45] are the ardour updates (so to speak) streamlined in 14.04? (Not sure I'm using the word correctly) [16:50] which updates [16:51] aloiece: yes [16:51] aloiece: but, the version is what it is.. you dont get an updated version. just maintenance [16:51] jmainguy: the updates that ardour releases regularly, [16:51] thanks holstein. yap that's fine [16:52] aloiece: ubuntu is not a "rolling release". if you want the latest version of ardour, you can get it yourself from the creator, who, if youa re contributing, will provide a simple executable.. or, PPA.. such as kxstudio ppa [16:53] what do i do? i am personally a contributor, so i just download the latest from ardour directly [16:53] you have to be a contributor to get ir from ardour? [16:53] Jmainguy: no [16:53] Jmainguy: you have to be a contributor to get the binary already compiled and ready to easily click and run [16:54] Me too, I only just upgraded to ubuntustudio 14.04 and I was wondering if I'd still "have to" download the maintenance (as you described it well) updates myself or if I'll get them [16:54] Thats pretty lame [16:54] Jmainguy: its opensource.. the source for the latest versions is available free.. and you can make whatever you like with it.. including a binary, or PPA [16:54] Jmainguy: ? [16:54] why?.. it was never promised.. its "as-advertised" [16:54] going through the work to compile it, and then not giving it out [16:54] thats pretty lame [16:55] Jmainguy: you can "go through the work" and give it out all you like [16:55] yes, yes I can [16:55] Jmainguy: if in doing said work, you think its work charging for, thats all the creator is charging for, currently [16:55] "the creator" [16:55] correct... paul davis [16:56] I thought you were a contributor [16:56] Jmainguy: i pay.. thats how i get the pre-complied binary for my use, already ready to go.. and i consider it a donation to the cause, which i support [16:56] ah, ok [16:56] but, the source is there at the site.. and the code gets into debian upstream [16:57] I thought you meant you contributed code, and got the binary for it [16:57] or contributed wiki updates, etc etc [16:57] no.. i just pay [16:57] gotcha [16:57] though, paul may offer something like that, if he needed the help [16:57] i dont know him that well.. [16:57] I am sure he wouldnt mind the help, hence open sourcing it [16:57] wouldnt hurt to ask, if one had more time than money, so to speak [16:58] hey diff topic, was there never a 13.04? [17:02] !13.04 [17:02] Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) was the 18th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 27, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/raring [17:03] we had an ubuntustudio 13.04.. they are all EOL now [17:03] all flavors 13.04 is eol [17:03] ah [17:03] yeah I am fairly nub at ubuntu, I got to memorize their LTS strategy at some point [17:04] holstein your name sounds familiar. I guess you're one of the developers (or main developers?) of ubuntustudio? [18:23] aloiece: just a non-code contributing volunteer [18:32] well so far [18:33] I'm trying to get into it. starting to study IT in september [18:56] hei I've seen a ui cpu frequency manager in dreamstudio that I recently tried a live session of. wouldn't that be useful to implement in ubuntustudio as well? [18:56] aloiece: go for it [18:56] i just use an XFCE one [18:57] nothing prevents dick from putting those in debian upstream and getting them into ubuntu [19:14] how can we urge them to do it? [19:17] aloiece: them? you mean dick? just ask him [19:17] its likely just a repo tool.. i would just look and see what it is [19:17] AFAIK, he's using unity.. you are free to use unity and whatever else you like.. though, its likely just a GTK tool