[00:01] <Neoromantique> Hi guys, I've got an issue with powerline font rendering
[00:01] <Neoromantique> https://www.linux.org.ru/gallery/10647566.jpg
[00:02] <LostNva> m1chael: do you wake up from suspend I think on mine its the power button
[00:02] <Beldar> knob, What ubuntu release?
[00:02] <LostNva> how i mean
[00:03] <knob> Beldar, 14.04
[00:03] <knob> I saw this Beldar http://www.howtogeek.com/187999/how-to-enable-local-menus-in-ubuntu-14.04/, yet it's missing from my system.
[00:03] <Beldar> knob, Did you run the install sudo apt-get install dconf-editor
[00:03] <knob> I don't have the little Appearance --> Behavior --> Show the menus for a window settings
[00:03] <knob> Beldar, that's another one... I did it via the graphical Ubuntu software installing thingy.   I do have dconf-editor now
[00:03] <knob> YET
[00:04] <knob> Now I don't have the sub-menu where I'm supposed to whitelist applications
[00:04] <Pici> Neoromantique: I had an issue with the tmux powerline in that there was a extra space being inserted between the  and the next element, you may want to check the vim config and/or the bug reports on the github page.  Alternatively, check out how it displays via another terminal emulator or even from a tty to verify if it is indeed a font issue, or one with the vim config.
[00:04] <knob> Beldar, I am running 12.04 LTS... sorry
[00:04] <Beldar> knob, sub menu means nothing to me, you will have to be exact here.
[00:05] <Pici> Neoromantique: I assume the  was the issue you were referring to.
[00:05] <knob> Beldar, well, using dconf-editor, in this link, it says to go to     com > canonical > unity-gtk-module > blacklist:                                    http://www.webupd8.org/2013/11/unity-global-menu-can-now-be-disabled.html
[00:05] <knob> Yet I don't have com > canonical > unity-gtk-module > blacklist:
[00:05] <Beldar> knob, Ah, 12.04 is gconf and this is 14.04 http://www.webupd8.org/2013/11/unity-global-menu-can-now-be-disabled.html
[00:05] <knob> Beldar, can I upgrade?
[00:06] <Beldar> knob, To?
[00:06] <knob> 14.04
[00:07] <knob> Beldar, brb... I am upgrading to 14.04
[00:07] <Beldar> knob, Sure, the official upgrade will be within a week or so, backup up 12.04 before doing so. You might just consider another desktop really these tweaks can be problematic if you don't know exactly what you're doing and how to fix it once done or reverse it.
[00:08] <knob> Beldar, thanks!   Although I enjoy breaking these things.  =)
[00:09] <Beldar> knob, Sure bit not everyone here has the patience to help in these matters so be sure you document changes....etc, know hjow to fix it yourself.
[00:09] <Beldar> but*
[00:09] <knob> Beldar, Yes.   I try my best with my notes and google.   And once that's expired, then I come in here.
[00:09] <knob> Lets see how it goeS! :D
[00:10] <knob> brb in a while.  Thanks!
[00:11] <ey3> Oh my
[00:11] <ey3> It looks like I just ruined grub with my new installation
[00:11] <ey3> Damn it, it only got worse now
[00:14] <ey3> W
[00:14] <ey3> Well, at least I can still boot into Live CD
[00:14] <ybit3> anyone here have the xps 13?
[00:15] <Beldar> !bootinfo | ey3
[00:19] <michaelnkoth> help does anyone know how to get windows program on ubuntu with a chromebook
[00:20] <kubuntard> Can i upgrade from 12.04.4 lts to 14.04 and keep the same kernel ?
[00:21] <ey3> OK, here it is, if anyone can take a look: paste.ubuntu.com/7782662/
[00:23] <LostNva> michaelnkoth: do you mean install windows crap into ubuntu?
[00:23] <avalarion> Updating my Ubuntu went totally wrong.... I need help, I am not able to install things, i get huge problems... 1.paste: http://pastebin.com/RzqA0AeC 2. paste: http://pastebin.com/3jtWLzjS
[00:23] <michaelnkoth>  yeah
[00:23] <LostNva> use wine, will install and run some things
[00:24] <michaelnkoth> what is the command for wine
[00:24] <LostNva> ubuntu comes with it as far as i know, right click on the file, click run with wine
[00:25] <michaelnkoth> so just download any windows file online and click run with wine
[00:26] <LostNva> some will work some wont, right click on the windows exe, click run with wine
[00:27] <Neroon> michaelnkoth: check wine compatibility here: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[00:28] <Avanesov> Can anyone tell me offhand which Ubuntu installers will install on a root btrfs? I know the full default desktop is supposed to, but im trying to get a minimum install and minimum install disc doesnt seem to have that option.
[00:29] <avalarion> okay, my problem got solved =). Correct order of remote sources and everything worked well. Thank and have a good night!
[00:34] <Beldar> ey3, You have grub in your sda1 windows boot partition hold on trying to find the web page of the fix.
[00:35] <ey3> Beldar: The person who installed grub and OSes for me said that Windows on sda1 is broken, so I've always booted into the one on sda2. Anyway, what can I do about it?
[00:36] <Beldar> ey3, read what is posted, hold on trying to find the web page of the fix.
[00:37] <ey3> Beldar: Oh, right. I didn't get it at first, sorry.
[00:39] <LostNva> i have a dumb question, can anyone tell me where the favorites are in xchat>
[00:40] <LostNva> i save favorites and cant find where they are
[00:41] <Beldar> ey3, So tell me exactly what is  happening can you boot ubuntu or windows as of now?
[00:43] <ey3> Beldar: Nope. Grub doesn't open the OS list, it says something about file not being found instead and leaves me with a "grub rescue" command prompt.
[00:43] <ey3> Beldar: It functioned properly, until I reinstalled Ubuntu on sda5
[00:43] <goit790> http://2014-the-best-hd-movies-adults-only.blogspot.com/2014/07/2014-best-hd-movies-adults-only.html
[00:45] <Beldar> ey3, You are in the ubuntu live environment now?
[00:45] <ey3> Beldar: Yes
[00:46] <rubytor> ey3: have you tried with boot repair??
[00:46] <Beldar> ey3, Open gparted and move the boot flag from sda1 to sda2 that will bypass the grub in the windows boot, than we will use the bootrepiar to run the repair.
[00:47] <jcstarken> question about permissions 14.04 :Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[00:47] <jcstarken> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[00:48] <SchrodingersScat> jcstarken: that normally means you are doing something else with dpkg elsewhere, ie, apt, aptitude, synaptic, dpkg itself, etc.
[00:48] <SchrodingersScat> jcstarken: wait, or you didn't sudo
[00:48] <Avanesov> Im guessing he diddnt use sudo
[00:49] <jcstarken> SchrodingersScat: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[00:49] <jcstarken> SchrodingersScat: should be?  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:49] <Avanesov> I believe so.
[00:49] <SchrodingersScat> jcstarken: yes
[00:50] <ey3> Beldar: Ok, moved the boot flag to sda2, that is the Live CD
[00:50] <jcstarken> SchrodingersScat: thank you
[00:52] <Beldar> ey3, Now use this app the basic repair on the live cd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:00] <ey3> Beldar: Right, it worked! Many thanks.
[01:00] <rickylm> eeee:  I'm back, I have another question for you if youre available. I searched the web and couldnt find the answer.
[01:00] <rickylm> Or anybody else that can offer assistance at this time.
[01:03] <rickylm> error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:03] <rickylm> but locate tells me '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4'
[01:04] <krono> hello
[01:04] <krono> I'm brand new here
[01:05] <krono> don't want to disturb!!
[01:05] <rickylm> Ive tried creating a symlink
[01:05] <trism> rickylm: if you are using a 32bit app you might need libcurl3:i386 instead
[01:06] <rickylm> I will install that and give it a shot.
[01:07] <rickylm> trism:  When I create a symlink it says some shit about ELF64, could the program im using be calling for a 32bit instead or?
[01:07] <tase> I have a service that refuses to start via 'service *name* start' but '/etc/init.d/*name* start' works, does the service utility use an other file than the one in /etc/init.d ?
[01:08] <trism> rickylm: try running: file ./executablename; assuming you are running it from the directory it is in, it should tell you (ELF 32-bit or ELF 64-bit)
[01:09] <trism> rickylm: if it is 32-bit then the symlink for a 64-bit lib won't help
[01:10] <rickylm> Ok, is there anyway I can specify it to install libcurl4 x86 instead of 64?
[01:10] <ryu13212> i don't know
[01:11] <rickylm> trism:  Well what you told me worked. Thanks brother.
[01:11] <Super> I am used to Debian but I am living hell because I don't understand Upstart! I don't know where to find where software is intialized and where is the PID file.
[01:11] <Super> *Living hell in Ubuntu.
[01:11] <ryu13212> super:wrong channel
[01:11] <Super> I have an ubuntu issue.
[01:11] <Super> Ubuntu uses Upstart.
[01:11] <rickylm> I dont understand how it took libcurl3 it being dependent on 4, but it worked. Thanks
[01:13] <Beldar> ey3, Cool, so sda1 just needs you to go in from ubuntu and remove all grub references, and the boot flag put back if you want, your choice, what ever you do do not remove sda1.
[01:14] <Super> ryu13212, what is the correct channel? I just want to find out the PID of a program upstart is initiliazing. I'm lost with upstart. I am used to: /etc/init.d/program-name start|stop|restart
[01:14] <Super> * initializing
[01:14] <basketball> I have two moniters. Can i have 2 seperate workspaces (one for each monitor)
[01:14] <ryu13212> um....
[01:16] <ey3> Beldar: So everything should be fine with both Ubuntu and Windows on sda2 now as long as I don't mess up something with sda1 I guess?
[01:17] <bootylicious> can someone tell me if the skype download ubuntu 12.04 (multiarch) is the right one?
[01:21] <ryu13212> um...ubuntu 12.04is i think outdated
[01:21] <bootylicious> nobody knows?
[01:22] <daftykins> ryu13212: nope still supported, it's LTS
[01:22] <ryu13212> oh
[01:22] <simpleuser> Hi there. My brightness control works but is not precise. I have 4 steps and I’d like to have more. How could I do that?
[01:22] <Beldar> ey3, Exactly.
[01:24] <SonikkuAmerica> bootylicious: No one knows what?
[01:24] <ey3> Beldar: Fair enough. This even turned out better than I expected, my old Linux installation had numerous issues and this fresh one is just lovely. Thanks anyway, I owe you one.
[01:24] <SonikkuAmerica> simpleuser: If it's not 12.04 it's not precise :) Seriously though, you could set it to full brightness and work your way down...
[01:25] <bootylicious> can someone tell me if the skype download ubuntu 12.04 (multiarch) is the right one?
[01:25] <bootylicious> thats what i was asking sonikku
[01:25] <user945945> hi!!!
[01:25] <Beldar> ey3, no prob. enjoy.
[01:25] <simpleuser> SonikkuAmerica: What do you mean?
[01:26] <SonikkuAmerica> simpleuser: I guess you're using Unity?
[01:26] <bootylicious> http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-computer/
[01:26] <bootylicious> theres no 14.04 choice, so im guessing its either the dynamic one at the bottom, or the one i mentioned above
[01:26] <bootylicious> the 2014 multiarch
[01:26] <simpleuser> SonikkuAmerica: Nope. XFCE.
[01:26] <bootylicious> ... the 12.04
[01:26] <simpleuser> SonikkuAmerica: but what does it have to do with unity?
[01:27] <SonikkuAmerica> simpleuser: Well.. Both use GNOME's volume control code in their indicators...
[01:28] <bootylicious> out of all the people in this chat nobody can tell me the right option to use
[01:28] <simpleuser> SonikkuAmerica: My brightness control (fn keys) is working. It’s just that the change is too violent.
[01:30] <simpleuser> It’s like it was doing two steps rather than one, each time.
[01:31] <akkik> Good Morning Guys
[01:33] <SonikkuAmerica> simpleuser: Yeah, the Fn keybindings attach to GNOME'S code for setting brightness... Lemme look it up for you
[01:34] <joshuag> hello
[01:37] <Willow_> test
[01:37] <daftykins> failed
[01:37] <SuperHeroINTJ> tested :)
[01:38] <SuperHeroINTJ> jeez. I hate this upstart that doesn't create the pid in /var/run/application
[01:57] <SchrodingersScat> there's a problem that seems to be localized to my laptop.  closing case puts it into standby as expected, but on resume and after login the screen is black.  anything I can look at, before deciding it's a security feature somehow?
[01:58] <Yetivendetta> is it possible that some wifi interfaces can connect to protected networks without the authentication key?
[02:00] <function9> SchrodingersScat: PowerManagement?
[02:02] <knob> Beldar, finished the update.... looks good!!!
[02:02] <knob> A couple of quirks that I want to iron out... yet I like it a lot!
[02:02] <knob> :)
[02:02] <knob> Going to upgrade my laptop too ... it's running 12.04, ... will take it to 14.04
[02:04] <SchrodingersScat> function9: I can get past 'unlocking' it by logging in, I could even hear a video that had been playing before the suspend.  Just Tim Curry darkness on the screen.
[02:07] <function9> SchrodingersScat: check your PowerManagement settings and also your screensaver settings.
[02:08] <Glycan> Hello. Are questions about using the ssh program on ubuntu within the scope of this channel?
[02:08] <SchrodingersScat> Glycan: worth a shot, ask.
[02:09] <Glycan> (I ask because I was previously told off for asking about network interfaces)
[02:10] <shiver> Do it.
[02:10] <Glycan> So I ssh -v <addr>, get up to debug2: shell request accepted on channel 0, get the entry message, the prompt, (I think) switch windows, and come back to debug2: client_check_window_change: changed\ndebug2: channel 0: request window-change confirm 0, and the window not accepting any input at all, not even C-c
[02:13] <hdon> hi all :) using gnome-terminal, gcc error quotes look like this: http://codebad.com/~hdon/temp.png
[02:13] <SchrodingersScat> function9: still don't see anything that suggests that the screen should be black instead of the desktop
[02:13] <hdon> so left quote ends up looking like o with a circumflex, and the right quote looks like an o with a tilde accent
[02:13] <hdon> it's really annoying. anyone have any idea what's wrong?
[02:14] <hdon> i don't have this problem with xterm
[02:15] <Glycan> This is using SSH over USB1.1 with the uhci_hcd module disabled on mostly out-of-the-box bash in a screen session on lubuntu 12.04.4 with linux 3.2.0-65-generic
[02:16] <Glycan> Anyone have any ideas how I might go about trying to fix this? SchrodingersScat? shiver?
[02:19] <SchrodingersScat> Glycan: no, sorry
[02:19] <shiver> Sorry.
[02:19] <derek-g> why is tor-browser not in standard repos?
[02:21] <Glycan> that's a question I'd like to hear answered also
[02:24] <jay__> i'm wondering how i can run python in linux? i am going to try and learn to program and would like to know how to open it in linux?
[02:24] <jay__> apparently it's already installed.
[02:26] <ghjnut> Does anyone have a link or info on how to install network drivers from an installation cd?
[02:26] <derek-g> Ghjnut, noone does that
[02:27] <Ghjnut> I threw a hard drive into a new computer and it's not picking up the netwrok
[02:27] <Glycan> jay__: open a terminal, type 'python'
[02:27] <Beldar> derek-g, The Tor-Browser is a 3rd party setup, you can use tools from the repos to tor up your browsers, easier to just use the one from the tor website.
[02:28] <Ghjnut> It's 12.10 server. I'll probably upgrade it but I'm looking to grab an internet connection first so i can back things up
[02:28] <derek-g> Beldar, by same logic firefox and chromium are "third party setups" - no?
[02:29] <jay__> thanks Glycan
[02:29] <Beldar> derek-g, Honestly if you don't know how to set it up from the repos say so rather than making banal answers trying to seem intelligent. ;)
[02:29] <advx_> Hello All, Good Morning.... its raining after a long wait...
[02:30] <derek-g> Beldar, I know - I can easily add ppa via "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/tor-browser"
[02:30] <advx_> its ~15 days late
[02:30] <derek-g> Beldar, it's just seems weird that such an important pice of software is left out from easy install/update routine...
[02:31] <Beldar> !tor
[02:33] <Beldar> derek-g, Everything in the ubuntu repos was a 3rd party till it is in the repos technically, 3rd party in this context means not in the repos.
[02:35] <derek-g> Beldar, so because of some "past issues with Ubuntu's" - they dont include it anymore by default... sounds sketchy at best... Perhaps canonical was pressured by nsa or something?
[02:36] <Beldar> derek-g, I have never seen the "tor-browser in the repos, only the tools to make your browsers run on the tor network, and assuming like that is a waste of time.
[02:37] <Beldar> derek-g, You can put away the tinfoil hat. ;)
[02:37] <Beldar> tor has it's weaknesses
[02:37] <derek-g> Beldar, Ive seen to much with my own eyes. trust me.
[02:37] <Beldar> yeah right, lol
[02:37] <derek-g> whatever
[02:38] <Beldar> derek-g, You have shown no real critical thinking at the least.
[02:38] <piovstein> https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en
[02:38] <piovstein> They have it for linux
[02:39] <derek-g> Thnaks. anyways. I'll continue using ppa.
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> omg i cannot fix these cold reboots
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> it happens randomly, i cannot actually use this laptop anymore
[02:42] <piovstein> derek-g:https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> i keep complaning about them, but i have no solution
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> memory test = fine, grub is default again
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> what on earth, why does random applications like leafpad and thunderbird and firefox
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> completely freeze the laptop without use of any keys
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> nothing works cannot even access TTY
[02:43] <piovstein> I had/have the same issue, Psil0Cybin
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> piovstein, what did you do to solve this...its a new laptop
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> i am so ocnfused
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> i am also using ubuntu 12.04.4
[02:43] <derek-g> piovstein, thanks. imho ppa is better - as I can update all programs at once when I run 'apt-get update'.
[02:44] <piovstein> I ran memtest and found no errors so I assumed it was a graphics driver thing. I've gone 24hrs w/o one so I'm hoping that was it
[02:44] <piovstein> and that's fair derek-g
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> piovstein, i cannot do anything
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> piovstein, i ran a memory test too
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> its fine
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> that does not help, its a brand new laptop
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> and i uipgrade the kernels and nothing fixes the issue
[02:45] <piovstein> does it freeze the instant you boot up?
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> it actually makes the laptop uselesson top if we risk loosing data
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> nope
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> after 20 - 30 minutes of use
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> 15 sometime
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> sometimes 60 minutes
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> no particular reason
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> complete freeze
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> even if idle sometimes
[02:45] <piovstein> so you should make sure the graphics drivers are correctly installed and check for any missing drivers
[02:46] <piovstein> but honestly, that's the best i have
[02:50] <advx_> bye ppl have a great day
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> piovstein, dang it dang it dang it ><
[02:52] <Psil0Cybin> i love ubuntu i love linux but this is madness...
[02:53] <piovstein> froze?
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> no not yet, but i have a feeling
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> the second i do something important
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> ugh she gunna blow
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> when are we upgrading to 14.04?
[02:53] <piovstein> wait
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> someone was suggesting to use a completely newer version
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> but i have a feeling that might cause even more problems
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[02:53] <piovstein> youre not running 14.04?
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> 12.04.4
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> LTS
[02:54] <piovstein> try 14.04
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> bah
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> >.<
[02:54] <piovstein> it's worth a shot
[02:54]  * piovstein brb
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> i know but
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> if it does not work...
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> waste of hours, im just wondering if anyone ever fixed this issue
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> like i see even the REISUB keys
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> do not work
[02:56] <piovstein> yeah, it might be a waste of hours...but that's the worst.
[02:56] <Psil0Cybin> yea so i may need to try it
[02:56] <Psil0Cybin> i really do want to use this laptop
[02:56] <Psil0Cybin> shes strong, but....it says i do not have any drivers to install
[02:56] <Psil0Cybin> its a Lenovo G20 piovstein
[02:57] <piovstein> i'd still check and update graphics related ones.
[02:57] <piovstein> then install 14.04
[02:57] <Psil0Cybin> alright brb going to migrate from the coffee shop back home
[02:57] <Psil0Cybin> piovstein,
[02:57] <Psil0Cybin> ill be back shortly
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> and i should perhaps dfo some more googling and do what you are suggesting
[02:58] <piovstein> okie dokie.
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> as a last resort
[03:06] <hdon> can anyone tell me what's wrong with my gnome-terminal? it's rendering quotes as the letter "o" with different accent marks: http://codebad.com/~hdon/temp.png
[03:07] <hdon> are gcc and gnome-terminal disagreeing about character encoding?
[03:13] <Bosi> Hello everyone, this message started to appear on Xubuntu 14.04 to me: "The update information is outdated. This maybe caused by network problems or by a repository that is no longer available." ... with sudo apt-get update, everything goes fine and no error messages or anything appear... what could it be then?
[03:16] <xangua> Bosi: do you have a ...that was fast
[03:22] <jeff4> how do i open a port on  server 14.04?
[03:24] <jeff4> wait- port would be router level not server?
[03:33] <andrew2> hi
[03:33] <hello_> hi
[03:34] <AndroidGol> Hi , i have an emulator of android 2.3 in ubuntu and i need to know if there any browser more fast than opera mini for this version of android
[03:36] <toufik> h
[03:39] <AndroidGol> for the emulator of android 2.3 from ubuntu is there any fork or clone of opera mini browser like second option?
[03:48] <Leophir> Hello
[03:48] <venticake> Hello
[03:48] <Leophir> Haven't been on irc for more than 10 years
[03:48] <AndroidGol> hi to all too
[03:49] <Leophir> It feels so robotic nowadays... less human
[03:49] <AndroidGol> im almost human
[03:50] <Leophir> Failed the Turing Test?
[03:51] <shiver> Same
[03:51] <shiver> Use
[03:51] <shiver> More than ten years... used too use prison.net
[03:52] <Leophir> all the servers I was using do not exist anymore
[03:52] <shiver> Same
[03:52] <Leophir> What's the biggest now? Quakenet still around?
[03:52] <shiver> I used too have my own
[03:53] <shiver> In the days of djsafterhours
[03:53] <shiver> If anyone knows of digitallyimported's beginning
[03:54] <shiver> And shiver.exe LOL
[03:54] <xangua> !ot | Leophir shiver
[03:54] <vars> hello!
[03:55] <Leophir> No I wasn't using much English back in the days
[03:55] <Leophir> Back to Ubuntu!
[03:55] <Leophir> I'm planning to get a thinkpad X200 soon. Should I run elementaryOS, Ubuntu or Mint on it?
[03:56] <shiver> Oooo.  Good unit. Ubuntu
[03:56] <vcrawler> hi all
[03:56] <vars> Ubuntu definitely @vcrawler
[03:57] <vcrawler> i new user trying ubuntu 14.04
[03:57] <vars> I have a question if  someone can help would be really appreciated
[03:57] <Leophir> yeah hunting a nice x200, x200s or x201 on ebay for less than $200
[03:57] <vcrawler> run on t410
[03:57] <vcrawler> hehe
[03:58] <vcrawler> nice to join u all
[03:58] <AndroidGol>  i have an ives smart tv 101 android with tuner tdt inside its very poor in hardware but the firware work very well and light
[03:58] <Leophir> Welcome!
[03:58]  * AndroidGol is using a M3 media box board running Android 2.3.4 (20120107)
[03:58] <shiver> X200 with ubuntu will sleep a month haha the battery life is... best I've seen.
[03:58] <vcrawler> it
[03:59] <vcrawler> that good
[03:59] <vars> lol
[03:59] <vcrawler> how to maximize the battery usage?
[03:59] <vars> any of you guys know how to test a FCM on ubuntu?
[04:00] <piovstein> does anyone know how to setup templates in MS Word when using cross-over?
[04:00] <Leophir> Yeah it packs around 9 hours of use with a 9 cell
[04:01] <vars> how to do that Leophir
[04:01] <vars> sounds really interesting
[04:01] <AndroidGol> for my device there a version of ubuntu but doesnt can using all the power of hardware like android
[04:01]  * AndroidGol is using a M3 media box board running Android 2.3.4 (20120107)
[04:01] <Leophir> The X220 packs 15 hours (!) with the 9 cell battery and the optional second battery.
[04:02] <Leophir> But still pricey
[04:02] <AndroidGol> its m1 not m3 error in the info of hardware
[04:02] <shiver> ? The duo 2 and ubuntu.. not the battery
[04:03] <vcrawler> Leophir do you know how run mobile broadband on ubuntu?
[04:03] <vars> Hey Leophir do you know how to test a FCM on ubuntu?
[04:04] <Leophir> No sorry :s
[04:04] <vars> no problem Leaophir
[04:05] <Leophir> See ya folks!
[04:05] <vars> c yaa
[04:05] <vcrawler> see ya too
[04:06] <vars> FLash Card MOdule or turbo memory does anyone knows how to test it on ubuntu, PLease?
[04:07] <AndroidGol> is there a device box with ubuntu and all in one minipc  and tuner tdt inside  like the android box ?
[04:10] <jcstarken> tried to do the numlockx and now I cant boot 14.04
[04:12] <shiver> Ouch. Where did you do?
[04:12] <jcstarken> need to remove a greeter setup from live to my hdd so that I can boot 14.04
[04:12] <AndroidGol> ok thanks for your responses, bye
[04:16] <jcstarken> ok I found what I messed up how do I get in there as root from the live that I am in now
[04:22] <jcstarken> need to remove a line from lightdm.conf but I am on live since I could not boot how do I get to root to remove line
[04:25] <danes> hello, how can I mount an encrypted hdd? for some reason ubuntu is not starting and I had my hdd encrypted. I pulled it and attached to another pc. Is there a way I can mount it and put my password to access the content?
[04:28] <danes> anyone here?
[04:29] <zh1> y
[04:29] <zh1> just me
[04:30] <jcstarken>  need to remove a line from lightdm.conf but I am on live since I could not boot how do I get to root to remove line
[04:30] <zh1> sudo su?
[04:31] <jcstarken> zh1: sudo su the hdd and the file dir
[04:31] <zh1> terminal
[04:31] <zh1> sudo su
[04:32] <zh1> whereis lightdm.conf
[04:32] <zh1> vim lightdm.conf
[04:32] <jcstarken> etc/lightdm
[04:32] <zh1> i = insert mode
[04:32] <zh1> edit
[04:32] <zh1> :wq
[04:32] <zh1> :)
[04:33] <jcstarken> dont have that package running on liveusb to get there
[04:33] <zh1> vi lightdm.conf
[04:34] <timothy_gu_> exit
[04:35] <jcstarken> ok brought up a lot of ~~~~ then at the bottom is "lightdm.conf"[New File]
[04:38] <Mitenap> Hey
[04:40] <jcstarken> I do not want to have to reinstall I really just need a little help
[04:41] <stonner> hi
[04:42] <Mitenap> I need help with installing ubuntu correctly on a laptop. Seems to get hung when shutting down and it never switches off. I have tried to reintall os as think it was something to do with mounting.
[04:43] <shiver> What LAPTOP?
[04:44] <Mitenap> Compaq presario V6000 32bit
[04:47] <Guest58975> hi
[04:48] <shiver> Hi
[04:50] <arooni-mobile> moonwalker
[04:50] <arooni-mobile> hey guys anyone here??  i'm looking a scary thriller;  not so much for blood and guts but something scary and thrilling i can stream on netflix.  ideas?
[04:51] <Mitenap> cabin in the woods
[04:54] <solidus> c
[04:57] <penguinman> quit
[05:05] <Tiberios> Hi. I am using 12.04. Sometimes I lost the wifi connection and I am asked for the pass phrase again and again. Can somebody tell me what is wrong?
[05:05] <michaelnkoth> how do you update ubuntu
[05:06] <Tiberios> By apt-get upgrade
[05:08] <zh1> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[05:08] <zh1> apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:09] <zh1> if you feel lucky
[05:09] <piovstein> ubuntu froze on me >.< grgrgrgrg I don't get it either. I thought i fixed the issue.
[05:10] <zh1> reboot
[05:11] <zh1> if it freezes just wait and dont keypress
[05:11] <piovstein> I have the same issue as Psil0Cybin
[05:11] <piovstein> how long should I wait, zh1
[05:11] <zh1> till it responds
[05:11] <piovstein> so min, hours?
[05:11] <zh1> 5m máx
[05:12] <piovstein> okay. and if it's above that?
[05:12] <piovstein> just cold reboot?
[05:12] <zh1> then u have a problem
[05:12] <zh1> yep
[05:12] <piovstein> have you had anything like this happen before?
[05:12] <zh1> never
[05:13] <zh1> but i dont use ubuntu
[05:13] <piovstein> well, that might explain why you haven't had an issue with ubuntu :p
[05:13] <zh1> i mean as a fixed os
[05:13] <zh1> but even when i used it i didnt have stress
[05:14] <Tiberios> But I want to stay in 12.04 lts .. is there an idea to solve the issue
[05:14] <zh1> sometimes i power on machine and use it
[05:14] <djeleas> jcstarken can you boot in recovery mode and remove numlockx ?
[05:14] <piovstein> well i'll have to figure this out. because memtest came back fine
[05:14] <zh1> hardware issues?
[05:15] <zh1> check the logs
[05:15] <zh1> var logs
[05:15] <piovstein> the hardware checks out, that's the odd part. Where would I find the logs needed?
[05:15] <zh1> swap size?
[05:15] <zh1> mem?
[05:15] <meganerd> or temperature
[05:15] <Solo456> Booting into LM17 (installed on SSD) I need to type in my pw twice and then a third time to log in. Is this normal?
[05:15] <meganerd> or the power supply
[05:16] <piovstein> memtest came back good. I've never had an issue with temp or power before (it's a gaming laptop).
[05:16] <piovstein> swap size?
[05:17] <meganerd> piovstein: you know that laptops by definition have heat and power issues.  How have you been measuring the temp?
[05:18] <piovstein> I haven't been quantitatively. I'm comparing it to windows 8 and gaming. This laptop has never had temp issues that cause it to freeze before.
[05:19] <zh1> piovstein, things to check, stable power source, mem, cabling, logs
[05:19] <zh1> there is more but just these will help
[05:19] <piovstein> cabling inside the laptop, you mean? which logs should I check?
[05:19] <zh1> piovstein, that doesnt mean nothing, thermal paste can dry
[05:20] <zh1> all logs, specially what was running
[05:20] <zh1> to freeze
[05:21] <meganerd> piovstein: freezing is not a useful diagnostic, just like under windows.  What were you doing, what apps running, cpuload, look through /var/log/syslog for errors or warnings
[05:21] <zh1> gnome-system-log
[05:21] <zh1> tail -f /var/log/syslog
[05:22] <zh1> piovstein, check setting you may have of the hardware too, like gpu, bios etc
[05:22] <zh1> and use lm sensors to detect temps
[05:22] <piovstein> what settings would I be checking?
[05:23] <zh1> after a poweroff and on run this apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[05:23] <zh1> apt-get autoremove && apt-get autoclean && apt-get purge && apt-get check
[05:23] <piovstein> what will those do?
[05:24] <zh1> i dont know your hardware specs
[05:24] <zh1> so all setting that for example could lock graphical card gpu
[05:24] <zh1> but as i said, i dont know your hardware so it has to be those according to parts
[05:25] <zh1> or a bios mem shortage on something
[05:25] <zh1> how much you have? and pc mem?
[05:25] <zh1> swap
[05:25] <piovstein> in syslog I don't see any indication of an issue. and 6gb of ram irrc
[05:26] <piovstein> iirc
[05:26] <user123321> hi
[05:26] <zh1> copy paste log to a pastebin
[05:26] <zh1> dpaste
[05:26] <zh1> or something
[05:26] <zh1> piovstein, there is a terminal paste wait
[05:27] <user123321> Has anyone used Ubuntu send SMS through a connected USB dongle?
[05:27] <piovstein> the whole log?
[05:27] <zh1> Pastebinit
[05:27] <zh1> do this
[05:27] <zh1> apt-get install Pastebinit
[05:27] <zh1> cat  /var/log/syslog | pastebinit
[05:28] <zh1> cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit missed a space
[05:28] <piovstein> i should post the  whol syslog?
[05:28] <zh1> maybe better
[05:29] <piovstein> the "cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit" command executed but didn't finish
[05:29] <zh1> cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:29] <piovstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7783406/
[05:30] <piovstein> does that help, zh1?
[05:30] <zh1> piovstein, what type hard disk u have?
[05:31] <zh1> cat dmesg | less | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:31] <piovstein> WD 750gb
[05:31] <zh1> can u use disk utility and check if it has bad sectors too
[05:32] <piovstein> do you want to me to run another command, or check for bad sectors?
[05:32] <meganerd> piovstein: at a guess I would look at suspend/hibernate and nvidia
[05:32] <zh1> piovstein, one thing caused freeze so to find out its a question of eliminating possibilities
[05:33] <piovstein> meganerd, what do you mean?
[05:33] <zh1> if A, B, C and D are ok then F e is the cause
[05:33] <meganerd> piovstein: turn off hibernate/suspend, are you using the nvidia drivers or the open source nouveau ones?
[05:33] <zh1> yep check power options
[05:33] <zh1> set to spend power :)
[05:34] <piovstein> zh1, what do you want?
[05:34] <zh1> if you can check things written would help you
[05:34] <piovstein> meganerd, turn off hibernate/suspend? like after given interval you mean? and I'm using nvidia drivers iirc, but I think they clashed with WINE. i tried to get around that though
[05:35] <zh1> wine drivers?
[05:35] <zh1> hmmm
[05:35] <piovstein> installing wine conflicted with nvidia drivers
[05:35] <zh1> are u on the ubuntu pc now?
[05:35] <piovstein> yes
[05:35] <zh1> can you do a power off and on?
[05:35] <meganerd> piovstein: I mean turn off hibernate/suspend especially if you are using the nvidia drivers.
[05:36] <zh1> to start from scratch
[05:36] <piovstein> zh1, and then what? because it'll quit IRC, obviously.
[05:36] <meganerd> piovstein: this is 14.04 right?
[05:36] <zh1> then u join in again
[05:36] <ESphynx> hey guys, apt-get is being stubborn because it says there are dependencies erorrs, but I want to install unrelated packages... is there a way to make it forget about unmet dependencies and go ahead?
[05:36] <piovstein> meganerd, yes. and do you mean hib/suspend after a given time period, or remove the options altogether?
[05:36] <zh1> apt-get -f install
[05:37] <ESphynx> zh1: that will remove the packages, I don't want to remove them, they work.
[05:37] <zh1> remove suspends
[05:37] <ESphynx> remove suspends?
[05:37] <meganerd> piovstein: I turn them off all together, along with suspend when the lid closes (I have always hated that option, even under windows)
[05:37] <ESphynx> ah
[05:37] <ESphynx> zh1: I had to hack it because it's Precise and dpkg isn't being updated
[05:37] <piovstein> where are they? because I just see the brightness and lock screen info
[05:37] <zh1> -f = fix
[05:38] <ESphynx> zh1: but it fixes by removing.
[05:38] <ESphynx> I want to short circuit it into leaving me alone with these unmet dependencies.
[05:38] <meganerd> piovstein: does this laptop have Optimus (combination of iGPU and nVidia)?
[05:38] <user123321> how to get permission to write to dev/ttyusb, to send data to my connected USB dongle
[05:38] <zh1> http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies
[05:38] <piovstein> meganerd: I don't think so. And I turned off the automatic screen shutdown.
[05:38] <meganerd> piovstein: I am not sure, at the moment I am on my NUC which is running KDE
[05:38] <ESphynx> Yeah I've read that, it does not have a solution.
[05:39] <ESphynx> It says I can't do that. but I want to do that.
[05:39] <meganerd> ESphynx: undo the changes that you made
[05:39] <child> hello
[05:39] <piovstein> meganerd: should I change the "when lib is closed" option?
[05:40] <ESphynx> dpkg is stuck at 1.16.1.2 on Precise, but that is completely useless and I need >= 1.16.2 ...
[05:40] <ESphynx> had to install it from source I think and I don't want to have to do that again and risk wasting hours to get things working properly again just because apt-get is being stubborn.
[05:41] <zh1> source bad choice
[05:41] <piovstein> zh1: do you want me to do anything?
[05:42] <ESphynx> zh1: I furiously strongly disagree with the whole apt-get philosophy. installing from source should be just fine.
[05:42] <meganerd> ESphynx: apt-get is central to your system, and you monkeyed with it. Usually this is a bad idea.
[05:42] <meganerd> ESphynx: I have loved apt-get since the 90s, if you want source, run gentoo or slack.
[05:42] <ESphynx> meganerd: I want both source and binaries to play nice with each other.
[05:43] <meganerd> ESphynx: then be careful
[05:43] <zh1> piovstein, Jul 10 04:04:53 peter-pc kernel: [    0.279748] pci 0000:00:01.0: System wakeup disabled by ACPI
[05:43] <meganerd> ESphynx: you don't get that by messing with dpkg
[05:43] <piovstein> zh1: eh?
[05:44] <piovstein> ACPI?
[05:44] <meganerd> ESphynx: there are any number of tools that you can use.  You can build your own packages, use checkinstall, or just be really careful and put self built stuff into /usr/local
[05:44] <vishnu> CISPA was recognized as a huge threat to people's privacy. We all protested against it and we took it off the senette. Now its back in a diferrent name: CIPA
[05:44] <ESphynx> meganerdn: seriously. why does apt-get have to become completely useless just because ONE package has unmet dependencies.
[05:45] <ESphynx> meganerd: don't get me started about /usr/local :P
[05:45] <meganerd> ESphynx: I have source and packages living side by side, I use apt-get build-dep, then checkinstall
[05:45] <meganerd> ESphynx: because it is doing it's job, checking for dependancies, something source installs don't give you
[05:45] <meganerd> ESphynx: hey, it is there for a reason.
[05:46] <ESphynx> meganerd: I'm fine with it checking its job of checking for dependencies for the packages I'm about to intall
[05:46] <vishnu> CISPA was recognized as a huge threat to people's privacy. We all protested against it and we took it off the senette. Now its back in a diferrent name: CIPA
[05:46] <vishnu>  http://www.cispaisback.org/
[05:46] <ESphynx> or the packages that I ask it to fix or remove.
[05:46] <meganerd> ESphynx: it is not like you *have* to use Debian.
[05:46] <ESphynx> meganerd: I maintain Debian packages and it may be the least of other evils.
[05:46] <meganerd> ESphynx: I remember the 90s and dependency hell.  apt-get/dpkg do their jobs well.
[05:47] <ESphynx> meganerd: It is doing its jobs relatively well.
[05:47] <meganerd> ESphynx: our opinions differ in this regard then.
[05:47] <ESphynx> meganerd: but it is being too stubborn. it should have a flag to ignore unrelated dependencies at the very least.
[05:47] <zh1> piovstein, can u check on bios acpi setting
[05:47] <Dave77> how do I find out what version of a program is included with ubuntu 14.04?
[05:47] <Dave77> I want to know what version of mplayer is included
[05:47] <piovstein> zh1: what do you want to know about it?
[05:48] <piovstein> and meganerd: I'm pretty sure I have optimus
[05:48] <meganerd> ESphynx: I actually know the guy who wrote apt-get, it does what it does for very good reasons.  It keeps you from shooting yourself.
[05:48] <function9> Dave77: dpkg -c
[05:48] <meganerd> piovstein: that sucks, I turned it off on my laptop.  I also had better luck with the open source drivers.
[05:48] <ESphynx> meganerd: at the moment it rather makes me want to shoot myself.
[05:48] <zh1> piovstein, if its on looks like here a firmware bug too on log
[05:49] <piovstein> the open source drivers for nvidia, meganerd?
[05:49] <meganerd> ESphynx: as someone who has done this countless times I understand the frustration, even if it is self inflicted.
[05:49] <piovstein> zh1, what am i looking for?
[05:49] <ESphynx> meganerd: seriously. a small switch :P
[05:50] <zh1> piovstein, how many freezes u had?
[05:50] <meganerd> piovstein: yes, my laptop has a quadro (useless even in windows), so I just use the iGPU.  Of course lenovo in all of their wisdom physically wired the mini-dp port to the nvidia GPU, so occasionally I need to enable it.  In UEFI/BIOS interface I just flip between discreet only and integrated only modes.
[05:50] <meganerd> ESphynx: seriously, not that easy
[05:50] <piovstein> zh1: 4 in the course of 24 hours
[05:51] <xangua> Dave77: apt-cache showpkg packagename , apt-cache help
[05:51] <meganerd> ESphynx: of course apt-get is open source, I am sure the current maintainers would love to see that patch :)
[05:51] <piovstein> meganerd: what FOSS drivers should i use for nvidia?
[05:52] <ESphynx> meganerd: as in he would be happy to reject it?
[05:52] <meganerd> piovstein: nouveau
[05:52] <zh1> piovstein, was pc in intensive use at that time?
[05:52] <meganerd> piovstein: purge all nvidia- packages
[05:52] <ESphynx> I don't care if it doesn't show up in the help screen and is in the man page with 10 WARNING don't don't this, but this is Linux. I should be able to do what I want to do.
[05:53] <meganerd> ESphynx: and you can, you just shot yourself in the foot, just like the manual warned you.
[05:53] <piovstein> meganerd: purge nvidia and install nouveau?
[05:53] <Dave77> ty: xan
[05:53] <piovstein> zh1: no more than it ever it. watching a movie and on the internets + IRC
[05:54] <zh1> piovstein, do you wanna try this, you just backup and do a ubuntu fresh install
[05:54] <zh1> then can install card fresh
[05:54] <zh1> ubuntu is very fast to install
[05:54] <meganerd> piovstein: purge them all, including bumblebee and primus packages if installed.
[05:55] <piovstein> zh1: if the goal is to install the graphics drivers fresh, can't i purge them or remove them another way as opposed to a complete OS install?
[05:55] <meganerd> ESphynx: what is the exact error that you are getting anyway?  As entertaining as the debate is, we are probably not going to agree.
[05:56] <piovstein> meganerd: should i try to reinstall primus and bumblebee?
[05:57] <meganerd> piovstein: "sudo aptitude purge primus bumblebee" and any package that shows up with a "sudo aptitude search nvidia |grep -w ^i"
[05:58] <piovstein> aptitude? the command isn't found
[05:59] <meganerd> piovstein: no, leave them out.  You can try later if you like.  If you don't need the nvidia under Linux I would just disable it altogether (without drivers or primus it should not be active, though on my laptop it was still 9 degrees C warmer until I disabled it in UEFI/BIOS)
[05:59] <meganerd> piovstein: apt-get then
[05:59] <ESphynx> meganerd:  "Yep, I've heard of many people switching to Gentoo just because of this. "
[05:59] <meganerd> ESphynx: I haven't
[05:59] <ESphynx> seriously this is crazy disabling.
[06:00] <meganerd> ESphynx: Gentoo was a massive PITA.  Only slackware was worse, and I liked slackware.
[06:00] <ESphynx> I still think all Linux are massive PITA. but Debian could improve if simple things like this would be addressed.
[06:00] <meganerd> ESphynx: seriously post the exact error.
[06:01] <piovstein> meganerd: what command should i do to disable Nvidia then? and wouldn't that kill any video capabilities?
[06:01] <ESphynx> meganerd: https://gist.github.com/jerstlouis/498cfdc15a1323121008
[06:02] <meganerd> ESphynx: if it was simple it would have been done.
[06:02] <meganerd> ESphynx: what exactly did you do?
[06:02] <ESphynx> meganerd: I found a hackish way to get a working dpkg version on this sytem because that old version can't do anything useful.
[06:03] <ESphynx> and no one cares to update Precise anymore
[06:03] <meganerd> piovstein: if you have optimus, then the Intel iGPU will get used and you have nothing else to do.  If that is broken there is still a software only (no hardware acceleration) fallback mode that is used.
[06:03] <zh1> meganerd http://paste.ubuntu.com/7783480/ piovstein
[06:03] <piovstein> meganerd: okay, well how do I purge them all?
[06:03] <meganerd> ESphynx: someone needs to learn dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections
[06:05] <meganerd> ESphynx: 12.04 is LTS, like debian stable they don't get new versions
[06:06] <meganerd> ESphynx: and I have no idea why you would try to replace dpkg.
[06:06] <meganerd> ESphynx: you can force an install of the previous version, under /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:07] <meganerd> ESphynx: and then undo and purge whatever thing you did.  You still have not told me how you got into this situation.
[06:07] <meganerd> piovstein: apt-get purge <packagename>
[06:07] <meganerd> piovstein: sudo apt-get purge <packagename>
[06:08] <piovstein> meganerd: and just do that for all the nvidia ones?
[06:08] <meganerd> piovstein: and bumblebee and primus
[06:08] <meganerd> piovstein: I also had better stability with the nvidia drivers under xfce than unity or kde.
[06:09] <meganerd> piovstein: it you wanted to go back to them for some reason (like gaming).
[06:09] <piovstein> and then install nouveau? meganerd
[06:09] <meganerd> piovstein: if it is not already
[06:09] <piovstein> meganerd: and that should, hopefully, fix the issue?
[06:10] <meganerd> it did for me
[06:10] <piovstein> why would nvidia be the issue though?
[06:10] <meganerd> piovstein: Short answer is because they suck, maybe less than AMD, but not by much
[06:10] <Dave77> can a binary made for ubuntu 10.04 work on 14.04?
[06:12] <meganerd> piovstein: the longer answer is more complicated and nuanced, and has to do with how drivers are integrated into the kernel, the horror that is X11, legal and licencing concerns with open source drivers, and generally not caring about 3% of the desktop market.
[06:12] <piovstein> meganerd: well, I'll try this once zh1 and i finish talking. hopefully it works.
[06:12] <Dave77> linux needs games to increase takeup
[06:12] <meganerd> piovstein: the nvidia driver basically shims its way into the kernel, so some things don't play nice
[06:13] <piovstein> meganerd: i see. and nouv tends to be better?
[06:13] <piovstein> is there a way to check to see which packages i have installed by nvidia?
[06:13] <meganerd> piovstein: it can be maddening.  You might also want to give xfce a spin.  Not as pretty but seemed a little more stable on my laptop (until I figured out how to just use the iGPU or discreet only)
[06:14] <ESphynx> meganerd: you had my hopes up there :S
[06:14] <meganerd> piovstein: it is maintained by the kernel and xorg people, so yes.  Though it is missing features and performs terribly for things like games.
[06:14] <ESphynx> meganerd: the debhelper I need to build my pacakges depends on it...
[06:15] <ESphynx> meganerd: I need exactly this dpkg and debhelper version that I have hacked together
[06:15] <piovstein> meganerd: is there an efficient way to search to see which nvidia packages i have?
[06:15] <meganerd> ESphynx: are you trying to load newer versions of packages into 12.04?
[06:15] <meganerd> ESphynx: for *core* things like dpkg?
[06:15] <ESphynx> meganerd: no I'm just comfortable in my 12.04 setup to build my packages.
[06:16] <meganerd> piovstein: apt-get search nvidia | grep -w ^i
[06:16] <ESphynx> meganerd: yes I loaded a newer version of dpkg into it
[06:16] <ESphynx> ah no sorry meganerd
[06:16] <ESphynx> it's just debhelper that I force-updated
[06:16] <ESphynx> I didn't change dpkg
[06:16] <meganerd> ESphynx: well I can't you with getting that working.  Putting the version with 12.04 back is doable
[06:17] <ESphynx> basically, debhelper has a requirement on a version to recent than it really neesd.
[06:17] <piovstein> meganerd: "invalid operation search"
[06:17] <ESphynx> I just want to backup my debhelper version
[06:18] <meganerd> piovstein: install aptitude, then "aptitude search nvidia | grep -w ^i"
[06:18] <meganerd> piovstein: when did Ubuntu stop shipping with aptitude?
[06:20] <meganerd> ESphynx: well, you have to install all of the .deb files that are dependancies.  packages.ubuntu.com will tell you what those are.  I would not recommend it.  If you really do need those newer versions, VMs and containers are probably going to be your friend here.
[06:21] <meganerd> ESphynx: this is not really an apt-get Debian/Ubuntu problem, the same thing happens to RHEL/Cent/Fedora as well
[06:21] <ESphynx> meganerd: I just wished apt-get would have an override to forget about unrelated things.
[06:21] <zh1> ESphynx, plain simple dpkg -i debfile, dependencies apt-get -f update
[06:22] <ESphynx> installing libasound2 wouldn't messup my dependency tree any worst tha it currently is.
[06:22] <ESphynx> zh1: on which package are you suggesting?
[06:22] <zh1> update upgrade always friends
[06:22] <zh1> i mean overall
[06:22] <zh1> if you are in a source...
[06:23] <meganerd> ESphynx: except that they are not unrelated.  This is the very definition of dependency management.
[06:26] <ESphynx> well I just install -f'ed, tired of this
[06:28] <meganerd> ESphynx: good luck then
[06:28] <ESphynx>  dh-exec (>= 0.3~)  -- that's what I need
[06:30] <martin1969> hello
[06:30] <martin1969> has anyone tried debian?
[06:33] <ESphynx> yeah now I have to waste another day that I don't ahve
[06:33] <ESphynx> to fix this the way I had a long time ago
[06:34] <meganerd> ESphynx: vagrant, saltstack, docker, containers... there are literally dozens of ways of automating build environments.
[06:37] <michaelnkoth> does anyone have a samsung chromebook
[06:38] <user____>          ] [ Ziber           ]
[06:38] <user____> 08:38 [ grepory         ] [ pavlos          ] [ zling_          ]
[06:38] <user____> 08:38 [ Grmlg           ] [ payne           ] [ zmanfx          ]
[06:39] <michaelnkoth> does anyone have a chromebook
[06:42] <izx> I need to install Java Update 23 in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. How do i do that? Any help would be appreciated.
[06:47] <ESphynx> meganerd: we built a nice build environment :P
[06:48] <ESphynx> meganerd: any hint on whether I can inform that I do have a verison 0.3 of dh-exec installed now?
[06:48] <meganerd> ESphynx: I am redoing mine, this time I am doing it right with docker and saltstack
[06:48] <ESphynx> hmm ;)
[06:48] <ESphynx> ours is clean and simple :P
[06:49] <ESphynx> epj project file, epj2make, make
[06:49] <meganerd> ESphynx: if you have aptitude , aptitude show dh-exec
[06:50] <ESphynx> it says 0.3
[06:50] <ESphynx> 0.2 * sorry
[06:50] <meganerd> ESphynx: mine is clean too, but to be repeatable, trackable (like in git), portable, and then automating the deployment.
[06:50] <ESphynx> nice ;) we've got those goals too of course :)
[06:51] <meganerd> ESphynx: I just started down the saltstack path 2 weeks ago.  I am in love.
[06:51] <ESphynx> meganerd: See how nice an epj file is :)  That's the epj file for epj2make: https://github.com/ecere/ecere-sdk/blob/master/epj2make/epj2make.epj
[06:53] <meganerd> ESphynx: not as clean as YAML :)   Use what you know
[06:54] <ESphynx> I'll take JSON instead anytime ;)
[06:55] <meganerd> ESphynx: it depends on the task.  YAML is perfect for what saltstack needs
[06:57] <ZekirdekZNC> #ZekirdekZNC
[06:57] <ZekirdekZNC> for free znc account
[06:57] <Susning> Hi there. Is there any convinent way I can check if I have any software installed from a particular repo? I've installed everything using Software center/apt get but I also added other repos so I would like to see if one in particular is used for any installed software. Any ideas?
[07:07] <ESphynx> "no dependency information found for /usr/lib/libpipeline.so.1". what could that possibly mean
[07:10] <helmut_> hi
[07:11] <ESphynx> ah ha!
[07:11] <ESphynx> I got punched it right in the face with a ln -s /bin/true !
[07:11] <ESphynx> muahahhaha
[07:12] <ESphynx> meganerd: the good news is now my new hack doesn't render apt-get install useless :P
[07:12] <ESphynx> I managed to debuild dh-exec 0.3
[07:13] <ESphynx> I really ought to take out taht symlink before building my own package though :P
[07:14] <ESphynx> thanks for the help guys.
[07:14] <ESphynx> mostly , for listening to my frustrated rants ;)
[07:17] <pyotr> zh1 it froze, I'll brb
[07:21] <Susning> How to test/read if I have any packages installed from one specific repo?
[07:22] <phunyguy> ZekirdekZNC: really not appropriate for this channel.  please don't do that.
[07:22] <zh1> dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[07:23] <zh1> dpkg --get-selections > list.txt
[07:23] <zh1> aptitude search '~i!~M'
[07:27] <Loshki> zh1: what does deinstall signify?
[07:27] <zh1> google
[07:30] <Loshki> zh1: still missing some bits. Who deinstalled them & why, and why does that help you know the repository?
[07:31] <zh1> What does "deinstall" mean?
[07:31] <zh1> This means the package is selected for de-installation or removal (i.e. we want to remove all files, except configuration files). As the man page tell us
[07:32] <Loshki> zh1: the man page doesn't answer my questions above...
[07:32] <zh1> that command doesnt
[07:32] <chenzen> hey guys i cant login too my system
[07:32] <Rstevoa> What happens when you try
[07:33] <Rstevoa> Can you get to the login screen?
[07:33] <chenzen> when i enter my username/password the screen goes black and then login page shows up
[07:33] <Loshki> chenzen: anything new going on since you last successfully logged in?
[07:36] <Rstevoa> Well, in the meantime, I also have a problem. I have a windows drive, an ubuntu drive, and a general drive. Apparently when I formatted the general drive I made it so grub can't load windows anymore (it contained a loader?). What can I do to try and fix that?
[07:37] <meganerd> Rstevoa: sudo update-grub
[07:37] <Rstevoa> sudo update-grub doesn't detect it. I also tried another thing, one moment
[07:37] <meganerd> Rstevoa: it should auto-detect windows and add an entry
[07:38] <Rstevoa> I also tried sudo os-prober and boot-repair. Boot-repair was at least able to find that there was windows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7783563/
[07:38] <Rstevoa> Thanks by the way
[07:41] <user123321> what's a good way to send SMS through a connected USB Dongle?
[07:42] <zh1> Rstevoa, sorry but since u said win my brain froozed in respect for the free software
[07:43] <Rstevoa> Haha, I love Ubuntu so much more but I have to keep windows around for some specific games/software
[07:44] <function9> Rstevoa: vbox
[07:44] <Rstevoa> Performance hits man!
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | Rstevoa
[07:45] <Rstevoa> Reading about that now. I still want to save my windows for now though!
[07:47] <Rstevoa> meganerd, do you know of anything else I could try?
[07:50] <histo> Rstevoa: did you see Windows not detected by os-prober on sdc1
[07:51] <Rstevoa> histo: os-prober had no output
[07:51] <histo> Rstevoa: what's on the ssd?
[07:52] <ThisHowiRoll> hey folks I've a question, which driver support Ubuntu have better for AMD or Nvidia cards? thanks
[07:52] <chenzen> Loshki, i wasnt able to login
[07:52] <Rstevoa> histo: There are two, one has my current ubuntu 14.04 install, the other has windows 7. If I open it, I see Program Files and Windows directories
[07:52] <Rstevoa> As well as the rest of the regular stuff
[07:52] <histo> Rstevoa: sorry should have said what's on /dev/sdb ?
[07:53] <Rstevoa> That's my HDD, currently empty. I believe grub was using it to load windows.
[07:54] <fuzzywhirlpool> Susning: use the command line dpkg --list or apt-cache madison pkgname
[07:55] <Rstevoa> histo: I probably should have checked that /dev/sdb was being used for that before I formatted it. I had assumed that it was talking about the win7 ssd
[07:55] <histo> Rstevoa: no the problem is os-prober isn't detecting windows on sdc for some reason. You could manually add the entry for windows.
[07:55] <Loshki> Rstevoa: which os-prober did you run. I seem to have more than one. You want /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober or some such, not /usr/bin/os-prober
[07:55] <ThisHowiRoll> anybody can help me with that?
[07:55] <ThisHowiRoll> which driver support Ubuntu have better for AMD or Nvidia cards? thanks
[07:56] <histo> ThisHowiRoll: both work
[07:56] <ThisHowiRoll> i know both work but which has in general better support for Ubuntu? like there should be some distingushing factors right?
[07:56] <histo> !best | ThisHowiRoll
[07:57] <ThisHowiRoll> ok i got it...
[07:57] <Rstevoa> histo: Both sudo /usr/bin/os-prober and sudo /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober provide no output
[07:58] <SamwiseGamgee> Catfish doesn't work, is it supposed to be used for searching for files?
[07:58] <gry> yes it is
[07:59] <histo> Rstevoa: can you post your grub.cfg
[07:59] <SamwiseGamgee> Catfish is pretty lame, as far as I can tell.  It can't find anything.
[07:59] <Loshki> Rstevoa: Also, the output from sudo fdisk -l
[08:00] <asdgahasdf> my package list updater just complained about an invalid GnuPG signature: W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[08:00] <asdgahasdf> is this a mistake or an attack?
[08:01] <SamwiseGamgee> is there a better app for searching for a file or a folder?
[08:01] <histo> Rstevoa: when did this stop working?
[08:02] <Rstevoa> histo: sudo fdisk -l: http://pastebin.com/fcFDTYv7
[08:02] <Rstevoa> histo: cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg: http://pastebin.com/YekLTKQJ
[08:02] <Rstevoa> histo: Grub stopped allowing me to boot windows when I formatted /dev/sdb. Thought it didn't have anything important on it. Whoops ><
[08:03] <histo> Rstevoa: I wonder if os-prober isn't working because sdb doesn't have a partition table
[08:03] <histo> Rstevoa: like it's hitting that drive and not handling the error for some reason.
[08:03] <Rstevoa> histo: Oh, right. I never finished formatting it. I just ran windows diskpart->clean
[08:04] <excalibr> People, is your backlight brightness supposed to change instantly when you do: echo <number> > /sys/class/backlight/../brightness ?
[08:04] <histo> Rstevoa: try creating a partition table on it. and re-run update-grub
[08:04] <histo> excalibr: if it's supported
[08:04] <rudi-is-me> can i start a cloud with an old pc as server and add my other laptops and one or two pc's?
[08:05] <rudi-is-me> i'd like to start playing
[08:05] <excalibr> histo, what do you mean it's supported? I can't do that with this laptop but the brightness fn keys work flawlessly
[08:06] <histo> excalibr: just noticed that value doesn't change for me
[08:07] <histo> excalibr: actual_brightness changes though
[08:07] <histo> rudi-is-me: takea  look at owncloud
[08:07] <rudi-is-me> histo: is it on ubuntu?
[08:08] <histo> !info owncloud | rudi-is-me
[08:09] <rudi-is-me> histo: thanks, i'll go check it out
[08:10] <Rstevoa> histo: I tried making a partition table. sudo os-prober still gives me nothing. New fdisk -l: http://pastebin.com/s4QXx4yc
[08:10] <histo> Rstevoa: k one sec
[08:14] <stephankn> debian fixed CVE-2014-1879 on the 9th. on my 14.04LTS installation it's still vulnerable. I did just recently switch from debian to ubuntu. Is this expected that Ubuntu is slower by providing security patches or is something wrong with my installation?
[08:16] <Ben64> stephankn: the problem is in phpmyadmin? why not just download a new version
[08:16] <stephankn> I already have the latest provided: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/web/phpmyadmin
[08:16] <Ben64> from here http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/index.php
[08:18] <stephankn> Ben64: If I would install all SW from source, why would I need a distribution? That's the reason they are for. Debian takes care that sw installs well and security patches arrive in time. Did I misunderstand the concept of Ubuntu when I expect the same from this distribution?
[08:19] <Ben64> you're really overthinking it. phpmyadmin is a stand alone thing, unpack it and use it.
[08:19] <histo> Rstevoa: add http://pastebin.com/vPVHkcUy  to the bottom of your /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[08:19] <stephankn> Ben64: So better avoid Ubuntu on a server and switch back to Debian? I thought Ubuntu is based heavily on so thought security patches will also be handled...
[08:19] <histo> Rstevoa: after you add it sudo update-grub
[08:20] <stephankn> Ben64: But where is the line? eglibc, libav, libxml2...
[08:20] <Ben64> stephankn: do whatever you want, but phpmyadmin is not complicated, and should never be exposed publicly anyway. you're making a mountain out of a neutron star
[08:21] <Rstevoa> histo: http://pastebin.com/1YJ10cGm
[08:21] <stephankn> Ben64: I'm not too worried about this specific case, right. But can I trust security on Ubuntu in general? I had expected to be on par with Debian.
[08:22] <histo> Rstevoa: double check your /boot/grub/grub.cfg  and you should see int eh section for the 40-custom an entry for windows
[08:22] <Ben64> stephankn: you should never trust anything 100%, you still have to take control of your own security on any distribution. bugs are normally fixed quickly
[08:22] <Rstevoa> histo: It's there, I'm going to go try and boot it
[08:23] <histo> Rstevoa: k
[08:23] <Guest73371> hi all
[08:24] <Tics> hi
[08:24] <stephankn> Ben64: So what happens with more severe exploits? Will they be handled by Ubuntu? How to know wich are handled and which not? I'm responsible for the security of my server. If my security concept is based on a misunderstanding of Ubuntu I'm in trouble. So in general: What is the status of the Ubuntu security team? They have enough member to handle updates quickly?
[08:24] <Rstevoa> histo: Error, file '/bootmgr' not found
[08:24] <Guest73371> any one with openstack
[08:25] <Guest73371> pls i need step by step documentation
[08:25] <histo> Rstevoa: try replacing the ntldr line with chainloader +1
[08:25] <Guest73371> perfectly working
[08:25] <Ben64> stephankn: yep, the heartbleed update came out very quickly, last big issue i remember
[08:25] <Guest73371> ??
[08:25] <histo> Rstevoa: this is windows 7 you are trying to boot right?
[08:26] <Rstevoa> histo: Yes. Also, is this correct? http://pastebin.com/wP56rM76
[08:26] <Guest73371> openstack ??
[08:26] <stephankn> Ben64: So I better stay subscribed to the debian announcements then. Will need to track each announcement to see if I would be affected and if so, check that Ubuntu patches of take actions myself... I'm not too happy with that extra work involved, but if this is the Ubuntu way, then it will be.
[08:27] <histo> Rstevoa: no that's not correct you still need insmod ntfs  at the top
[08:27] <Tex_Nick> If I have 1 14.04 box with a Movies partition/directory ... would a sftp share to other 14.04 boxs be a good way to share those movies ?
[08:28] <Tex_Nick> would there be a better way
[08:29] <histo> Rstevoa: replace teh ntldr /bootmgr   line with chainloader +1
[08:29] <Rstevoa> histo: Just ran sudo update-grub with http://pastebin.com/BeMwAe3H
[08:29] <Susning> fuzzywhirlpool: Ok but isn't that for when I know a package and want to see what repo it uses? I want to do the other way around, I know the repo and want to know if there is any (which) packages are installed to a specific repo.
[08:30] <histo> Rstevoa: yeah now try
[08:31] <histo> Rstevoa: Ahh I wonder if you boot repairing didn't mess up the first sector of /dev/sdc
[08:31] <pa> hi
[08:31] <Ben64> Susning: you can see that if you use synaptic
[08:31] <pa> how comes trusty has the l7-protocols package, but it misses l7-filter?
[08:31] <Rstevoa> histo: BOOTMGR is missing
[08:31] <tehzapper> # conky
[08:32] <tehzapper> #conky
[08:32] <Susning> Ben64: thanks, found it
[08:32] <histo> Rstevoa: yeah do you have a windows disk lying around?
[08:32] <tehzapper> oops
[08:34] <Rstevoa> No, but I have USB drives aplenty
[08:34] <histo> Rstevoa: was /dev/sdb there when you installed windows?
[08:35] <Rstevoa> histo: It existed, yes
[08:36] <Rstevoa> histo: I am going to start making a win7 recovery usb
[08:36] <histo> Rstevoa: well, I would unplug your /dev/sda and /dev/sdb  then boot to Windows install media and select the repair option to get command line and bootrec /fixboot   bootrec /fixmbr      then plug sda and sdb back in and reboot
[08:36] <histo> Rstevoa: the boot files for windows appear to have been on sdb for some reason.
[08:37] <Rstevoa> histo: Ok, I will try that
[08:38] <histo> Rstevoa: after you get the boot repaired on the windows drive os-prober called via update-grub will detect it once again, and you shouldn't need the 40-custom entry any longer
[08:38] <histo> Rstevoa: a quick test would be to unplug sda and sdb  and try booting the machine. I bet you will receive the same bootmgr missing
[08:41] <dragos> i can't right click on classic gnome on ubuntu 12
[08:41] <dragos> kill all
[08:41] <histo> dragos: right click where?
[08:41] <dragos> on a taskbar
[08:42] <Susning> I've used to installed conky-manager from repo http://ppa.launchpad.net/teejee2008/ppa/ubuntu - don't seem to find it now. I would like to install through trustworthy ppa. Where to do/what to do?
[08:42] <dragos> histo: on a taskbar
[08:43] <dragos> kill all
[08:44] <histo> dragos: why doyou keep typing kill all
[08:45] <dragos> because nobody cheat with me
[08:45] <histo> dragos: you can't right click on the taskbar
[08:45] <dragos> why
[08:46] <histo> dragos: Because it's just a shell extension for gnome. Try super + alt + right click
[08:47] <histo> dragos: or check settings > keyboard shortcuts
[08:47] <histo> dragos: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125891/panel-settings-not-appearing-on-right-click-in-gnome
[08:48] <dragos> i don't have keyboard shortcuts
[08:49] <dragos> i will make ubuntu look like mac os x with your help histo
[08:50] <dragos> bie
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> oO
[08:54] <dragos> hello
[08:57] <Susning> Any idea about the conky-manager and ppa?
[08:58] <bazhang> Susning, contact the maintainer about a trusty version, thats not supported here
[08:59] <Susning> bazhang: ok, thanks.
[08:59] <bazhang> something like that, one earlier version *might* work
[08:59] <tkpromise> hello
[09:02] <dragos> chat evrybody
[09:02] <user123321> what to do incase of a sudden hang? ctrl+alt+f2, and then?
[09:04] <MonkeyDust> user123321  ps aux and see what might cause it
[09:05] <user123321> MonkeyDust, how to reset desktop?
[09:06] <MonkeyDust> !reisub | user123321 try this
[09:07] <user123321> cool, thanks.
[09:12] <Aki-Thinkpad> !ping
[09:14] <HippoCrit> Hey; I am having some issues with Ubuntu install, can anyone please help me?
[09:15] <histo> HippoCrit: what sort of issues
[09:15] <HippoCrit> It is hanging after Hardware detection
[09:16] <histo> HippoCrit: Will it boot succefully in live mode?
[09:16] <MonkeyDust> HippoCrit  what hardware is it
[09:16] <HippoCrit> I have been successful in running Live CDs on it; including ubuntu
[09:16] <HippoCrit> It is an ex-workstation I got from work
[09:18] <HippoCrit> I used ctrl + alt + F4 to see what was the last thing it does before it freezes and this is what it gets stuck on: https://i.imgur.com/EimbMUH.jpg
[09:20] <arpx> Hi
[09:21] <HippoCrit> Hey
[09:21] <arpx> Whut up
[09:21] <HippoCrit> Just trying to figure out why Ubuntu keeps freezing during install, you?
[09:22] <arpx> Mucking around on my 3 yr old iPod
[09:22] <arpx> It's not even ios7
[09:23] <HippoCrit> lol, jailbroken I presume?
[09:23] <arpx> Yeop
[09:23] <arpx> Yep
[09:32] <Alexander___T> sup guys, is it possible to install the latest mesa 10.2 drivers for ubuntu 14.04 or will these be added via system updates in the near future? i ask because the amd radeon drivers that are currently shipped with ubuntu 14.04 have an llvm issue which causes some games to crash.
[09:37] <dragos> kill all
[09:38] <dragos> kill all kill all kill all
[09:40] <edition> im stuck using cron
[09:40] <sandstrom> Does installing `syslog-ng` replace, disable or otherwise adjust the default logging tools? I'd preferably run it side-by-side with the defaults, and use it only for particular logfiles that I configure.
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> edition  let's hear it
[09:40] <dragos> kill all
[09:40] <edition> I have a schedule document, how do i display it during the week?
[09:40] <dragos> kill all
[09:41] <edition> and also fast viewer to use
[09:41] <dragos> kill all
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> edition  view in terminal or view in gui editor?
[09:41] <edition> gui
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> edition  leafpad is fast, set it as default and then use gnome-open in your cron task
[09:42] <dragos> why nobody cheat with me im sad :(
[09:42] <histo> dragos: please stop
[09:42] <edition> i dont understand the order of cron...
[09:42] <dragos> histo
[09:42] <histo> edition: what order?
[09:42] <edition> of the cron command
[09:42] <dragos> kill all
[09:43] <histo> edition: what do you want to due with cron?
[09:43] <histo> !ot | dragos
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> !ops | dragos
[09:43] <edition> display the schedule document for each weekday
[09:43] <dragos> what is the problem
[09:43] <histo> edition: what 'schedule document' are you referring to?
[09:43] <histo> dragos: do you have a ubuntu related question?
[09:43] <edition> one i wrote in HTML
[09:44] <MonkeyDust> edition  like so: 0 4 * * * some_command   <-- at 4am, every day, execute some_command
[09:44] <dragos> yes
[09:44] <histo> dragos: then ask away otherwise join #ubuntu-offtopic for other stuff
[09:44] <dragos> i don't think
[09:44] <edition> manpage doesn't help
[09:44] <histo> edition: perhaps we could answer if you would explain in detail what you want to do.
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> if you kill all nobody can answer
[09:45] <edition> ok. when I log on, display the HTML page with cron every weekday
[09:45] <dragos> yes but i say kill all because nobody cheat with me
[09:45] <histo> edition: display it where?
[09:45] <edition> ah, sorry. using firefox.
[09:45] <MonkeyDust> edition  just put it in your start up commands
[09:46] <edition> how? i am linux idiot :)
[09:46] <trijntje> dragos: this channel is ONLY for people who have a question about ubuntu, not for general chat
[09:46] <histo> edition: well It doesn't sound like you want cron
[09:46] <edition> ok
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> edition  system settings > startup programs
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> edition  and use gnome-open to open the doc with the default program
[09:47] <dragos> i have a problem i try to upgrade ubuntu 11 to ubuntu 12 and all themes are gone
[09:47] <edition> thanks. for future reference, is there a good cron page?
[09:47] <edition> with plenty of examples?
[09:48] <MonkeyDust> !cron | edition start here
[09:48] <edition> thanks
[09:48] <histo> dragos: cat /etc/issue    shows what?
[09:48] <Morgawr> hello, is there a way to temporarily disable unity from spawning the "alt menu" for some programs I run? I ask this because I'm trying to run/play some games in wine and if I hit alt (a common key in the game) it opens unity's menu
[09:49] <SirFredman> Hi, since the last kernel update my sound card driver module won't load, with dmesg messages like "snd_hda_codec: disagrees about version of symbol snd_ctl_add".
[09:49] <Morgawr> I don't want to change the keybind or to permanently disable it or just manually disable it before and re-enabling it after, I want some way to disable it temporarily for a specific application
[09:49] <dragos> it shows that:Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[09:49] <edition> this is what I needed: minute (0-59), hour (0-23, 0 = midnight), day (1-31), month (1-12), weekday (0-6, 0 = Sunday), command
[09:49] <edition> explains it better on the link you suggested
[09:50] <trijntje> Morgawr: I don't think thats possible. The best you can do is probably put in a script: disable alt; start game; enable alt
[09:50] <edition> can you change the order of crontab?
[09:50] <Morgawr> trijntje: yeah that's what I wanted to do, how do I do that?
[09:50] <trijntje> and to be honest I don't know how to disable alt using the command line
[09:50] <Morgawr> the "disable alt" -> "enable alt"
[09:51] <Videoman> Hello. I've got QuickCam Messanger camera that works out-of-box with Cheese, but Skype doesn't use it. How to repair this?
[09:51] <cfhowlett> SirFredman reboot and use an older kernel for now
[09:51] <histo> dragos: which theme?
[09:51] <dragos> radiance and ambiance
[09:52] <histo> edition: From what you are explaining, you don't need cron. Just edit your auto started applications as suggested. That way it will call whatever web page when you log in to the desktop
[09:52] <edition> thanks. i wanted to learn the harder way :)
[09:52] <histo> dragos: do you have the theme installed?
[09:53] <dragos> yes in ubuntu 11 but in ubuntu 12 is deleted
[09:53] <Videoman> On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams I see that a package Is needed, but I've got it installed.
[09:53] <SirFredman> @cfhowlett: I tried that and it works. So it is just a new kernel problem that will go away sometime in the future? :)
[09:53] <histo> edition: well it's not the harder way. It's the wrong way for what you want.
[09:53] <edition> oh. speaking of HTML, is there a better viewer than firefox?
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> Videoman  logout and back in, maybe?
[09:54] <cfhowlett> SirFredman #1 report a bug.  #2 - well, we HOPE that it will be fixed in a future kernel ... :)  glad you have a workaround
[09:54] <histo> edition: there are plenty of web browsers available search the software center.
[09:54] <edition> thanks
[09:54] <histo> SirFredman: you could try an upstream kernel and find out
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> edition  install and try a few other browsers
[09:54] <SirFredman> cfhowlett: well I hope it will be fixed...it is an generic realtek sound chips so a lot of people will notice this...I guess :P
[09:55] <edition> do you use firefox?
[09:55] <cfhowlett> SirFredman actually, that's a good thing!
[09:55] <histo> edition: yes and midori and dwb
[09:55] <ESphynx> hey edition :)
[09:55] <edition> hello
[09:55] <dragos> hey edition lol
[09:55] <dragos> o cool name
[09:55] <SirFredman> cfhowlett: I will post a bug report and see if that helps the devs somewhat :D
[09:55] <edition> 'information' in french
[09:56] <histo> !fr | edition
[09:56] <edition> im not french :)
[09:57] <dragos> nobody cheat with me im so so sad :(
[09:57] <ESphynx> My Debian packaging was rusty :(
[09:57] <histo> dragos: this is not the room for chat
[09:57] <SirFredman> histo: upstream kernels sound cool but I really have to devote some time to get that working I guess. Sounds like a fun project though
[09:57] <andreipath> lol
[09:57] <cfhowlett> !ot|dragos
[09:57] <MonkeyDust> dragos  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:57] <dragos> were
[09:57] <andreipath> anyone has good wifi troubleshooting skills ?
[09:57]  * cfhowlett thinks "not the right channel for cheating either."
[09:57] <dragos> where
[09:57] <MonkeyDust> dragos  here in irc
[09:58] <histo> andreipath: what is the problem?
[09:58] <edition> how do you emphasize your message in IRC?
[09:58] <histo> !who | edition
[09:59] <edition> !test
[09:59] <andreipath> i had wifi hard switch on
[09:59] <andreipath> and i finally got it unlocked
[09:59] <histo> edition: you can type their name in your message it will hilight on most of their clients
[09:59] <dragos> where is the room for chat
[09:59] <histo> andreipath: good
[09:59] <cfhowlett> edition no need to emphasize - a clear description with the details would be the most helpful.
[09:59] <andreipath> but now even though the chipset is active
[09:59] <cfhowlett> dragos again: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:59] <andreipath> it doesnt discover any networks
[10:00] <histo> andreipath: what does rfkill list   show?
[10:00] <dragos> i join but i don't show anithing
[10:00] <andreipath> rfkill looks good, shows soft and hard block off
[10:00] <joshua7> hi room
[10:00] <histo> andreipath: lspci | grep Network
[10:01] <cfhowlett> dragos leave this room.  go to that room.  type something.
[10:01] <cfhowlett> joshua7 greetings.  ask your ubuntu question
[10:01] <andreipath> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[10:01] <histo> cfhowlett: he's already there.
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> for all those who are interested: developers recently updated ubuntu-touch, working very neat already on my nexus7 tablet for more info: join #ubuntu-touch
[10:02] <histo> andreipath: sudo iwlist scan
[10:02] <joshua7> is their a room for vmware
[10:02] <cfhowlett> !virtualization|joshua7
[10:03] <histo> !alis | joshua7
[10:03] <andreipath> http://pastebin.com/iwpRVLQh
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> joshua7  type /j ##vmware   <-- that's double #
[10:04] <cristian_c> Hi
[10:04] <cfhowlett> cristian_c greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions
[10:04] <andreipath> histo: http://pastebin.com/iwpRVLQh
[10:04] <cristian_c> I've installed lamp with tasksel, following the ubuntu wiki page
[10:04] <IdleOne> I'm never watching another Spielberg movie again
[10:04] <histo> andreipath: yeah I got it the first time. rfkill list doesn't show anything blocked?
[10:05] <cfhowlett> cristian_c on ubuntu-server?
[10:05] <IdleOne> oops wrong channel.
[10:05] <edition> which movie?
[10:05] <cristian_c> cfhowlett, no, the desktop version
[10:05] <andreipath> its shows nothing blocked
[10:05] <histo> andreipath: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[10:05] <cfhowlett> cristian_c OK ... and your questions?
[10:05] <andreipath> im running xubuntu 14.04
[10:05] <histo> andreipath: can you pastebin the output of lspci -k
[10:05] <andreipath> wifi works fine in recovery mode though
[10:06] <cristian_c> I've tried to start lamp with the command: sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start
[10:06] <histo> andreipath: is your ap really far away?
[10:06] <andreipath> histo: http://pastebin.com/jzX2dWwA
[10:07] <andreipath> no, the ap is next to me
[10:07] <cristian_c> but but there are no lampp directories in /opt
[10:07] <cristian_c> How can I launch lampp?
[10:07] <edition> sudo lampp?
[10:08] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[10:08] <cristian_c> edition, ok, I try
[10:08] <pi-Pruuk> hello
[10:08] <dragos> it says lampp command not found
[10:08] <cristian_c> sudo: lampp: command not found
[10:08] <edition> where did you install it?
[10:09] <cristian_c> edition, how can I check this?
[10:09] <edition> you used apt?
[10:09] <dragos> it says no package lampp found
[10:09] <histo> andreipath: can you pastebin the output of dmesg
[10:10] <histo> andreipath: or the output of grep -e etwork /var/log/syslog
[10:11] <andreipath> http://pastebin.com/UQh3DWgd
[10:11] <cristian_c> edition,
[10:11] <andreipath> this is output of grep
 I've installed lamp with tasksel, following the ubuntu wiki page
[10:12] <edition> what did apt say?
[10:12] <edition> when you tried to install lampp?
[10:12] <cristian_c> edition, maybe two days ago
[10:12] <cristian_c> edition, I've installed it with tasksel
[10:13] <edition> maybe try getting it directly
[10:13] <edition> would that help?
[10:13] <histo> andreipath: k reading
[10:13] <andreipath> ok thanks
[10:13] <dragos> i want help
[10:14] <histo> andreipath: are you playing with aircrack?
[10:14] <andreipath> sorry, yes i had mon0 on
[10:14] <andreipath> but i disabled it now
[10:15] <histo> andreipath: are you sure it's disabled?  try aircrack-ng stop mon0
[10:15] <joshua7> any one getting my messages?
[10:15] <andreipath> i did
[10:15] <histo> andreipath: sorry sudo aircrack-ng stop wlan0
[10:16] <andreipath> il give you another paste
[10:16] <andreipath> sorry bout that
[10:16] <histo> andreipath: also with iwconfig
[10:19] <Cameraman> ~$ LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib32/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/bin/skype "$@" ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib32/libv4l/v4l1compat.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.
[10:19] <andreipath> hist: http://pastebin.com/AqFX3Kn1
[10:19] <advx_> Good Afternoon
[10:20] <dragos> bith
[10:20] <dragos> bitch
[10:20] <histo> andreipath: no idea why it's not scanning if it's hard or soft blocked. That chipset is relatively well supported and should just work out of the box.
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> dragos  no profanities please
[10:20] <dragos> why
[10:20] <histo> MonkeyDust: he's just trolling
[10:21] <andreipath> i know histo. this is my problem
[10:21] <andreipath> i worked fine in 13.10
[10:21] <andreipath> works fine in recovery mode
[10:21] <dragos> no i don't troll
[10:21] <histo> andreipath: what single user mode?
[10:21] <andreipath> but since upgrading to 14.04 doesnt work in single user mode
[10:22] <cfhowlett> dragos profanity is not required or permitted here.  if you have support issues, state the problem.
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> dragos  if you're bored, switch off you pc, go out and play
[10:22] <Rstevoa> histo: I got it running! I had a bunch of trouble getting the USB written. I had to format it as ntfs, mount the win7 iso in a directory, copy the contents to the USB, run recovery, then pull up a windows command prompt and run bootrec /fixmbr and bootrec /fixboot. Thanks a ton for your help!
[10:22] <andreipath> dragos: dute ma si paste vaca, fa ceva constructiv... nu sta si enumera injuraturile care le stii tu in engleza
[10:22] <cfhowlett> advx_ greetings.  ask your ubuntu question
[10:23] <dragos> eu sunt la block
[10:23] <histo> Rstevoa: np
[10:23] <advx_> cfhowlett, thanks for asking , but today just solved a issue with my unixODBC connectivity pbml
[10:23] <histo> andreipath: No I was asking if recovery mode is single user mode?
[10:23] <advx_> cfhowlett, no issues for time being
[10:23] <cfhowlett> advx_ excellent!
[10:23] <advx_> thanks for asking
[10:24] <andreipath> yes, single user mode
[10:24] <cristian_c> Has anyone any ideas?
[10:24] <cristian_c> lol
[10:24] <dragos> lool
[10:24] <histo> andreipath: dmesg | grep ath5k
[10:25] <histo> andreipath: also what's in your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[10:26] <dragos> kill all
[10:26] <histo> dragos: stop now
[10:26] <cfhowlett> dragos you are quickly wearing out your welcome.
[10:26] <dragos> why i say to me im stupid
[10:27] <Cameraman> What can I use instead of Skype, that will work both for Ubuntu and Windows? (Skype doesn't recognize my camera, that is fully recognized by Cheese)
[10:27] <cfhowlett> !skype
[10:27] <histo> Cameraman: google hangouts ??
[10:27] <andreipath> histo: http://pastebin.com/kLuzgubA
[10:27] <cfhowlett> histo I didn't even think of that --- good one.
[10:28] <histo> andreipath: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[10:28] <alessandro_> salve  a tutti
[10:28] <andreipath> there is nothing in there
[10:28] <andreipath> its just a blank file
[10:29] <andreipath> its empty
[10:29] <histo> andreipath: sudo service networking restart
[10:29] <histo> andreipath: also how are you testing network in 'recovery mode'
[10:30] <jester-> hi
[10:31] <cfhowlett> greetings jester- ask your ubuntu question
[10:31] <andreipath> histo: i dont test it in recovery. it just works by itself as soon as i log in
[10:32] <andreipath> histo: sudo service networking restart
[10:32] <andreipath> stop: Job failed while stopping
[10:32] <andreipath> start: Job is already running: networking
[10:33] <jester-> cfhowlett: not for now, just watching and learning
[10:34] <histo> andreipath: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:34] <cfhowlett> jester- cool.  for more in depth ubuntu-stuff, see www.fullcirclemagazine.org
[10:35] <jester-> nice bot
[10:35] <vlt> Hello. When I click on "shutdown" the computer switches off completely as expected. How can I initiate this from command line? I tried "sudo halt" but that only shuts down linux and the hard drives but not the computer.
[10:35] <user123321> do USB devices sleep after a certain time? My USB modem seem to lose connection with idle.
[10:35] <andreipath> still nothing
[10:35] <cfhowlett> vlt sudo shutdown
[10:35] <histo> andreipath: restart this machine and don't mess with aircrack try scanning for aps
[10:36] <vlt> cfhowlett: Thank you. Will try this.
[10:36] <andreipath> i only messed with aircrack to torn on mon0 and see if it discovers anything
[10:37] <andreipath> thats all
[10:37] <histo> andreipath: ahh.
[10:37] <andreipath> yesterday rfkill was saying that wlan0 is hard blocked by hardware switch
[10:38] <histo> andreipath: yeah.  What does it say today?
[10:38] <andreipath> took me 4 hours to figure how to unblock it since there is nothing in bios to do that and the physical switch is useless on ubuntu
[10:39] <andreipath> now rfkill shows up as being fine
[10:39] <andreipath> but i cant pick up any ap's at all
[10:39] <cfhowlett> andreipath is this a dell computer?
[10:39] <andreipath>  hpcompaq cq60
[10:40] <andreipath> i just cant figure it out
[10:41] <cfhowlett> andreipath hmm.  on my Delll 1545 F2 is the wifi key under windows.  after 4 years I accidentally keyed Alt-F2 and it toggled my wifi.  no more terminal work.  play with ALT CTRL and Windows key combos
[10:41] <histo> andreipath: pastebin the output of nm-tool
[10:42] <andreipath> histo: http://pastebin.com/2KZQDY5H
[10:43] <andreipath> cfhowlett: i have an actual switch im meant to press for that and its useless. i also tried fn everything and that is pointless too
[10:43] <cfhowlett> andreipath eh - worth a try.   sorry.
[10:43] <histo> andreipath: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WirelessTroubleshootingProcedure
[10:45] <Cameraman> I try to: env LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype , BUT I receive: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored. HOW to repair this?
[10:45] <killer> I need to convert my .docx file to .pdf but .docx file contains  python code(so indentation) ,  I need indentation to be retained in the pdf
[10:45] <histo> killer: print to pdf
[10:45] <cfhowlett> killer this ^^^ do it all the time
[10:47] <shoko> hello
[10:48] <shoko> My xubuntu are broken
[10:49] <killer> histo: I m using libreoffice writer , are you talking about export as pdf or are pointing towards  Crtl + P
[10:52] <jmm_> jmm_x
[10:52] <cfhowlett> killer print a document.  when the printer menu pops up, select .pdf
[10:53] <histo> killer: ctrl+p
[10:54] <histo> killer: you're making this more difficult than it needs to be IMO
[10:54] <clara_> Hi everybody. I'm trying to upgrade from edubuntu 12.04 to edubuntu 14.04 but can´t find it in the update manager. Any hints?
[10:54] <cfhowlett> clara_ it will appear in update manager in a few weeks : 14.04.1 point release
[10:55] <cfhowlett> clara_ IF your update manager settings are LTS only selected
[10:56] <clara_> cfhowlett A thanks. Is it possible to upgrade right now, manually, or do I just have to wait
[10:57] <histo> !upgrade | clara_
[10:57] <cfhowlett> clara_ you could force it but I wouldn't.  sounds like you're running an actually important deployment.  recommend you wait for the point release
[10:58] <histo> ??
[10:58] <killer> histo: It is not the first time I m printing but the .pdf is not an option in libreoffice http://oi58.tinypic.com/2qar2v7.jpg
[10:58] <killer> http://oi58.tinypic.com/2qar2v7.jpg
[10:59] <histo> killer: on the print screen not the save screen
[10:59] <clara_> cfhowlett well its just my sisters laptop and I don´t see her too often. But then she´ll just have to wait. She should be able to do it herself, anyways. Didn´t know it would be that easy. Thanks, and have a nice weekend!
[10:59] <cfhowlett> killer it's not SAVE as it PRINT -
[10:59] <cfhowlett> clara_ happy2help
[10:59] <histo> killer: click File > Print   select save to pdf
[10:59] <Cameraman> Hello. How can i "Symlink" LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l2convert.so with Skype's file?
[11:00] <histo> Cameraman: ln -s target linkname
[11:00] <cfhowlett> killer libreoffice writer 3.5.7.2 allows "export as PDF"
[11:01] <killer> cfhowlett: I tried export as pdf but it doesn't retain the indentation like the doc file
[11:01] <histo> killer: did you try printing to pdf yet?
[11:02] <killer> histo: that is what I tried to show in the link , actually , in printing  I m not getting .pdf as an option
[11:03] <histo> killer: cat /etc/issue
[11:03] <killer> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[11:04] <killer> I think I need cups-pdf package
[11:04] <killer> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/libreoffice-unable-to-print-to-pdf-871245/
[11:04] <histo> killer: well that's one option but you shouldn't need it
[11:04] <histo> !info cups precise
[11:05] <killer> I m getting the same problem as the linuxquestions.org link above
[11:06] <histo> killer: yeah install cups-pdf
[11:06] <killer> cups-pdf package solved the problem
[11:06] <killer> thnx
[11:07] <histo> killer: this is changed in cups 1.6
[11:07] <cfhowlett> killer that there is some good detective work, Lou!  good job.
[11:07] <histo> !info cups
[11:08] <histo> killer: when you upgrade to 14.04 you can remove the cups-pdf package
[11:09] <killer> histo: Well I don't plan to leave 12.04 anytime soon
[11:10] <histo> killer: Okay, FYI LTS > LTS upgrades are supported. You will receive notification of 14.04.1 when it's released
[11:11] <killer> I will wait till 14.04.3 or 14.04.4
[11:12] <killer> RAther I have heard sometimes upgrading the system breaks it or leaves some parts not functional(proper)
[11:13] <cfhowlett> killer waiting for the first point release is good practice.  waiting for later point releases is excessively paranoid IMHO ...
[11:15] <killer> It still is not retaining the python indentation from the doc file
[11:16] <killer> after  I convert .doc to .pdf
[11:21] <Cameraman> Is there a way to fix webcam that will work under Skype without running terminal? With Cheese webcam works ok.
[11:22] <Cameraman> (It's annoying that this bug exists for years)
[11:26] <histo> Cameraman: skype isn't exactly opensource.
[11:27] <Cameraman> Is there really easy to use alternative for Skype? That could be run from a to z by old man, without registering external accounts etc?
[11:27] <cfhowlett> Cameraman does "old man" have a smartphone?  weixin/wechat allow video calls/conferencing
[11:28] <histo> Cameraman: how does old man use skype without an account?
[11:28] <histo> Cameraman: also is there a problem with the ld_preload command?
[11:28] <histo> Cameraman: and did you take a look at google hangout?
[11:29] <histo> Cameraman: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126765/skype-video-not-working-after-upgrade-from-11-10-to-12-04
[11:31] <Cameraman> histo: Your command works, Thank You. And I will check this Google Hangouts.
[11:31] <gry> no
[11:31] <Cameraman> cfhowlett: He has got only PC. I will go after histo advice.
[11:31] <cfhowlett> Cameraman best of luck
[11:32] <User1728> VIAGRA IRC.BLUECHAT.IT AWESOME STUPID ADMIN
[11:37] <vlt> Hello. I'm resyncing a raid10 of 6 members. Why does the kernel copy data only from member 0 to 1 and not simultaneously from 2 to 3 and 4 to 5?
[11:41] <plushy> I created a new system account and when I try to switch to it all I see is the wallpaper
[11:41] <plushy> where to check for error messages as to why the env doesn't load?
[11:47] <gry> plushy: try ~/*x*error* possibly
[11:47] <plushy> gry: Unable to get name "org.gnome.zeitgeist.datahub" on the bus!
[11:47] <plushy> it's full of those
[11:48] <Shadow}}> I just upgraded to 14.04(?) and it removed Synaspe can't find it in center. Whats the line to search and update for dep through terminal? Or will is it a matter of being incompatible.
[11:49] <philinux> Shadow}};~ just check apt-cache policy synaptic
[11:49] <philinux> if not installed sudo apt-get install synaptic
[11:49]  * Shadow}} scratches head
[11:49] <Shadow}}> Thought it was Synaspe I was after.
[11:50] <Shadow}}> *Synapse
[11:50] <philinux> Shadow}};~ i assumed it was a tyoo
[11:50] <philinux> typo
[11:51] <Shadow}}> Naw. It removed along with alot of Libs, Didn't know how to specify not to remove Synapse but its not in center for download either. So, Just do the run apt-get ?
[11:51] <plushy> T
[11:51] <plushy> T
[11:51] <plushy> oops sorry
[11:52] <mike> hi can anyone help i have no sound
[11:52] <philinux> Shadow}};~ the upgrade probably disabled the ppa. Just activated it in software sources
[11:52] <Shadow}}> Says it may of been obsoleted and that it has no installion client
[11:52] <Shadow}}> Kayy. Where might that lil button be?
[11:53] <philinux> Shadow}};~ system settings> software and updates
[11:53] <Shadow}}> Thank you.
[11:53] <gry> plushy, try to move ~/.Xauthority to ~/.Xauthority.1 and attempt to login again
[11:54] <Shadow}}> philinux: PPA?
[11:55] <philinux> Shadow}};~ be aware though http://askubuntu.com/questions/449285/is-synapse-application-launcher-available
[11:55] <plushy> gry: alright did that. Unfortunately it logs me out when I switch so I'll be back later
[11:56] <Shadow}}> philinux: Alrighty. I'll just do this here bleeding edge install. Thank ya
[11:56] <philinux> Shadow}};~ the alternative in 14.04 in called launchy
[11:57] <philinux> Shadow}};~ quote from that link I gave ."
[11:57] <philinux> An alternative to Synapse which is available in the Software Center is called Launchy. It's not quite as nice as Synapse but does the trick and doesn't seem to break anything.
[11:57] <Shadow}}> Ehh. Synapse is the only thing I'm used to on linux thus far.. that and typing sudo before stuff. xD
[11:57] <philinux> Shadow}};~ you need to read all of that askubuntu link
[11:58] <Shadow}}> Yeahh. I presumed due to your tone it has glitches, Likely for booting xorg also once I set it to launch on start-up.
[11:58] <Shadow}}> But, On the other hand... I already did it sooo.
[11:59] <philinux> Shadow}};~ if you prefer the classic gnome desktop you could install gnome-flashback-session and choose that at login
[11:59] <Guest74827> anyone know how to configure my sound on 14.04
[11:59] <Cameraman> I've got Universe repository enabled, but I'm not able to get qc-usb-utils?
[11:59] <Guest74827> i am using xfce4
[12:00] <gry> Guest74827, what are you trying to do?
[12:00] <Shadow}}> philinux: No idea what that may be to be honest, Still new to linux.
[12:01] <plushy_> gry: it seemed to have worked
[12:01] <philinux> Shadow}};~ it gives a desktop like the old gnome2 with 2 panels top and bottom with the old menus on the top panel "places applications system"
[12:01] <Shadow}}> On the plus side, This here terminal said the synapse repository is a constant updater thingy. Soo... Perhaps it'll resolve itself before I have any critical issues.
[12:01] <gry> then you may want to look what the ~/.Xauthority.1 file contains to see what the issue was
[12:02] <racecon> with multiple methods of virtualization in 14.04, is one generally preferred over the others?  From my googling around, it seems kvm is slightly more preferred.  But, I couldn’t find anything out there comparing the supervisors on 14.04.
[12:02] <philinux> Shadow}};~ just note that synapse being bleeding edge might not work sometimes
[12:02] <cfhowlett> !worksforme| racecon I prefer virtualbox as it's fairly intuitive -  IMHO
[12:02] <Shadow}}> Hmm... Hope it does. Either way. Someone said an alternative..That being? again?..
[12:03] <Shadow}}> Luncher?
[12:04]  * Shadow}} raises his hand with a dumb question
[12:04] <Shadow}}> How do I know if I even have Bluetooth in this desktop?...
[12:04] <hashken> !bongoat Kernan, Jenna - [The Lordly Claremonts] - Winter Woman (Retail) (Epub).rar
[12:05] <Shadow}}> I always assumed not having a wifi adapter meant no bluetooth aswel.
[12:05] <cfhowlett> !spam|hashken
[12:06] <Cameraman> Is there option to set webcam configuration in Ubuntu's "control panel"?
[12:06] <Sunstream> Splitski
[12:07] <andrex|off> wow
[12:07] <bekks> Shadow}}: Just look up the specs, or take a close look at lspci and lsusb
[12:07] <Cameraman> Is there option to set webcam configuration in Ubuntu's "control panel"? I don't see that option.
[12:08] <Cameraman> Is there option to set webcam configuration in Ubuntu's "control panel"? I don't see that option.
[12:08] <philinux> Shadow}};~ launchy, you can install that from software center too. just search for it
[12:09] <toromata`> Hi. How can I path my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS to solve the wifi disconnection issue? Sometimes I lost wifi connection and I am asked again and again for the pass phrase of wifi.
[12:10] <toromata`> Hi. How can I patch my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS to solve the wifi disconnection issue? Sometimes I lost wifi connection and I am asked again and again for the pass phrase of wifi.
[12:10] <philinux> Cameraman;~ you can install the app cheese then set the preferences it uses
[12:10] <bekks> toromata`: That depends on your exact wifi chipset.
[12:11] <Cameraman> philinux: But will it influence other webcam's apps?
[12:11] <toromata`> bekks: How can I get it?
[12:11] <racecon> cfhowlett, ubottu: I have used virtualbox for years on my windows box and it has worked pretty well.  I know it’s noticebly slower than the others, and hadn’t really thought about using it on a server.  I think I’ll just have to try out all 3 (kvm, xen, vbox) and see which one feels more right than the others.
[12:13] <toromata`> My Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller (rev 10)
[12:13] <bekks> racecon: Noticably slower than what?
[12:14] <bekks> toromata`: With a realtek controller, you just have to live with it.
[12:15] <Cameraman> philinux: I ran this Cheese again after battles with Skype, and not it records with lower quality than in the start.
[12:15] <Cameraman> philinux: Sorry, my fault :)
[12:15] <cfhowlett> racecon server?  So no gui?  possible, but damn, that sounds painful.
[12:17] <plushy_> gry: nothing special in it really probably just a glitch. Maybe the update of packages helped too
[12:17] <plushy_> Okay. Next question. I have /dev/sda4/music folder and I want the user to be able to access only that
[12:18] <plushy_> I disabled automount
[12:18] <toromata`> bekks: What means that? I can't solve that problem
[12:18] <plushy_> set mount for /dev/sda4 to /mnt/sda4
[12:18] <plushy_> create a symlink in user env to the specific directory
[12:18] <bekks> toromata`: That means that you cant change the problem without getting another wifi adapter, which doesnt use a realtek chipset.
[12:18] <plushy_> However when I do chmod 700 /mnt the user can't access the folder
[12:19] <bekks> plushy_: /dev/sda4 is a block device, not some filesystem folder.
[12:19] <plushy_> bekks: I know
[12:19] <plushy_> bekks: but I want the user to only access one specific folder on that device
[12:20] <bekks> plushy_: So set the permission on all other folders so the user cant access them.
[12:20] <toromata`> bekks: Oh!. Ok. thank you.
[12:21] <Guest74827> can anyone help set up my sound ( alc888 )
[12:21] <plushy_> bekks: it's ntfs, I can't mess with it's permissions from linux
[12:23] <LucaS05> hi. i'm using Apache 2.4.9 and i've changed in the conf file the document root. now i got a 403 on localhost in firefox. what can i do?
[12:29] <Cameraman> Hello. I'm not able to run Skype- even typing in Termina: Skype [ENTER] doesn't work.
[12:29] <joel> join  #mameo
[12:31] <gry> what output do you see when you try to run skype from a terminal? no output?
[12:31] <Cameraman> Why can't I unistall app by Software Center, when it has been installed from .deb package?
[12:31] <gry> because they would conflict (the command names for example); you need to uninstall the manually installed one first
[12:33] <Cameraman> gry: That's not practical/
[12:33] <gry> why not?
[12:33] <Cameraman> gry: Because installing from .deb is easy for everyone, but unistalling with terminal isn't.
[12:34] <gry> would you be unable to uninstall it using synaptic, by typing the package name and hitting enter, then using the context menu?
[12:35] <Cameraman> gry: I'm looking on this through eyes of every-day consumer. Synaptic is not installed on default in Ubuntu so it would be needed to install it first. It's not practical.
[12:36] <gry> why they don't install it by default while including means to graphically install a .deb is beyond me
[12:37] <lenny___> because they wanted to promote the ubuntu store
[12:37] <lenny___> and display books and other junk
[12:38] <Cameraman> gry: I don't understand You.
[12:38] <robynata> :-D
[12:38] <caphomial> Hello there, I'm running Ubuntu, I installed ubuntu desktop package, depusi installing lubuntu is lighter and rallenti I would like how to remove? (I still do not see the ubuntu desktop btw, I would completely remove ubuntu (packets)
[12:40] <caphomial> Hello there, I'm running Ubuntu, I installed ubuntu desktop package, depusi installing lubuntu is lighter and rallenti I would like how to remove? (I still do not see the ubuntu desktop btw, I would completely remove ubuntu (packets)
[12:41] <lenny___> back up your data and reistall from scratch
[12:42] <lenny___> it looks like you've messed your insall bad enough it probably isn't worth trying to fix it
[12:42] <LucaS05> which is the apache 2.4.9 configuration file?
[12:42] <gry> Cameraman: I mean, I do not understand why they let you easily install debs manually without means to uninstall them in the first place. If I dediced to not include Synaptic by default, I would also stop including such means to easily install debs manually.
[12:43] <Cameraman> When i do type in Terminal: skype [ENTER] it just send me to next row. How can I start Skype?
[12:44] <lenny___> don't start it at all
[12:45] <lenny___> skype connects yout to the NSA and that's about it
[12:45] <Cameraman> lenny___: I use free apps for everyday use but Skype is needed for specific contact.
[12:45] <gry> I would suggest moving ~/.Skype to ~/.Skype.1 and trying to start it again
[12:45] <lenny___> no, don't do that
[12:45] <wheatthin> gry, you can look to see what the dependencies to that deb package you installed, and if it wasn't extra from outside the repository, you can purge that one package
[12:46] <lenny___> look around your desktop to see if you have a little skype icon somewhere
[12:46] <gry> with a terminal, yes, wheatthin; the conversation related to a person who has not learned to use it yet
[12:46] <lenny___> because maybe you've configured it to start minified or in the try
[12:46] <smashash> Hi. I'm a relatively new linux/ubuntu user. Can someone help me?
[12:46] <gry> yes
[12:46] <lenny___> tray*
[12:46] <wheatthin> smashash, just state your question
[12:47] <smashash> I need to adjust some settings on my desktop monitor. I used to do this in windows using samsung's software but I couldn't find one that works with ubuntu
[12:47] <smashash> The software used DDC2, and it also worked within the intel graphics settings panel within windows
[12:47] <wheatthin> smashash, you'll want to go into display settings in the control center
[12:48] <lenny___> you may want to ga back to windows actually
[12:48] <wheatthin> lenny___, be helpful or leave
[12:48] <lenny___> because that kind of functionality, if you nee it
[12:48] <lenny___> it's nott in linux
[12:48] <lenny___> wheatthin, I am being more helpful than you
[12:48] <gry> I'm using skype on linux for over 4 years without issues
[12:48] <smashash> wheatthin, I couldn't find any of the settings I need in settings>displays
[12:48] <wheatthin> lenny___, negative.
[12:49] <gry> please don't go personal and just stop that specific unhelpful advice
[12:49] <gry> the request doesn't mean anything against you
[12:49] <smashash> The settings I need to adjust are: brightness, contrast, gamma presets and auto resize (widescreen stretch toggle)
[12:49] <LucaS05> someone could help me with the 403 on apache 2.4.9?
[12:49] <lenny___> stop being fanbois
[12:49] <lenny___> some thing linux doesn't do
[12:49] <gry> I did, a long time ago
[12:49] <gry> it does skype; please cease
[12:49] <smashash> I could just install windows all over again but it seems like an overkill for something like this
[12:50] <wheatthin> smashash, I take it you're using a regular ubuntu install with unity?
[12:50] <gry> smashash: the windows advice was not directed to you; please discard it
[12:50] <smashash> wheatthin, yes I am, 14.04, but with some customizations
[12:51] <gry> Cameraman: did you get it to launch properly?
[12:51] <Cameraman> gry: It used to work.
[12:51] <gry> right now, after following my advice?
[12:51] <smashash> gry, I already did
[12:51] <gry> good
[12:51] <Cameraman> gry: But without working webcam (that worked under Cheese).
[12:52] <Cameraman> gry: Now webcam works with Skype, but Skype doesn't start.
[12:52] <gry> and now it started launching properly but without working webcam?
[12:52] <gry> ok
[12:52] <gry> did you follow my advice about moving a directory and trying again?
[12:52] <lenny___> don't do that
[12:52] <Cameraman> gry: And there's no error message.
[12:52] <gry> I know; did you or not?
[12:52] <lenny___> it's probably already running
[12:52] <lenny___> he just doesn't see it
[12:52] <gry> ok, please run "ps aux | grep skype"
[12:52] <lenny___> because it's trayfied
[12:53] <gry> for those people who don't understand that if a program is running then it'll not exit and send you back to the command prompt :)
[12:53] <lenny___> wheatthin, don't tell me to leave ever again you idiot
[12:53] <gry> Cameraman, ok? 1. run "ps aux | grep skype", if output is empty, then 2. move ~/.Skype to ~/.Skype.1 and try to start it again
[12:53] <lenny___> wheatthin, mind your business
[12:53] <MACscr> I renamed all my interfaces using udev rules, yet after a reboot, now i new interfaces showing up in ip link (the old and the new names). why is that?
[12:56] <Guest73520> hi, i've been getting init-bottom kernel panic on booting after a fsck found some corrupted folder and moved a lot of files to lost+found. any idea on how to reload the correct directory structure?
[12:56] <Cameraman> gry: I did ps aux | grep skype but out is not empty.
[12:57] <smashash420> okay I'm back
[12:58] <bekks> amirseni: Restoring an external backup is your only chance.
[12:59] <amirseni> was afraid of that. root partition is on a separate partition and home on another. the fsck was on the root partition. anyway that i can apt-get reinstall?
[13:00] <bekks> amirseni: You need to find out what got corrupted, which is nearly impossible because of the complexity and the sheer number of files.
[13:00] <smashash420> can someone reply so I know I'm connected? :P
[13:00] <bekks> smashash: As long as you can type in here, you are connected. :)
[13:00] <amirseni> i agree, extremely dauting task...
[13:00] <amirseni> was hoping for a one line fix
[13:01] <bekks> amirseni: If restoring your backup is a oneliner, thats the one you are looking for :)
[13:02] <amirseni> yes, agree on that as well. my home partition is indeed backup up. however never bothered with root partition
[13:03] <leonardo_> oi
[13:03] <leonardo_> tem alguém ai?
[13:04] <amirseni> time to dig out the last remastersys iso. thanks for your help bekks.
[13:04] <leonardo_> i don't speak english
[13:04] <leonardo_> ok!
[13:04] <Bwithmore14> hello ubuntu community
[13:04] <leonardo_> oi, tudo bem?
[13:05] <amirseni> oi leonardo.
[13:05] <leonardo_> como vai você? = how are you?
[13:05] <Bwithmore14> may mga pilipino ba dito
[13:05] <amirseni> vai bem.
[13:05] <leonardo_> the bing translate's used now, alright?
[13:06] <leonardo_> how if speak mentira in english?
[13:06] <amirseni> se quiser em pt nao tem problema
[13:07] <leonardo_> mais você sabe falar português bem?
[13:07] <leonardo_> desculpa eu não sei quando usar o mais e o mas muito bem não!
[13:07] <amirseni> leonardo_: falo bem pt
[13:07] <leonardo_> a tá! .--.
[13:08] <leonardo_> então, alguem sabe se tem firewall na central de programas do ubuntu?
[13:08] <amirseni> leonardo_, o firestarter é o mais facil de todos
[13:08] <leonardo_> amirseni, como instala ele?
[13:09] <amirseni> leonardo_, usa o ubuntu store ou synaptic ou apt-get
[13:09] <amirseni> leonardo_,  na linha de commando pode introduzir
[13:09] <leonardo_> só digitar sudo apt-get install firestarter?
[13:09] <amirseni> leonardo_,  isso mesmo
[13:10] <leonardo_> Impossível encontrar o pacote firestarter
[13:10] <amirseni> que ubuntu usas?
[13:10] <leonardo_> 14.04 lts
[13:11] <leonardo_> nem tem nenhum pacote firestarter no synaptic
[13:11] <amirseni> leonardo_,  aindo estou no 12.04 e tem
[13:11] <leonardo_> .--.
[13:11] <amirseni> leonardo_, parece que removeram apartir de 13.10
[13:11] <leonardo_> no 14.04 não tem nada a respeito, tem o tar.gz ou tar.bz2?
[13:11] <amirseni> leonardo_, outra alternativa será sudo apt-get install gufw
[13:12] <leonardo_> blz, isso é interface gráfica pra alguma coisa lá!
[13:13] <incog> https://fixubuntu.com/
[13:13] <leonardo_> apareceu :D
[13:13] <amirseni> leonardo_, para mais info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gufw
[13:13] <leonardo_> ok ok obrigado
[13:13] <amirseni> leonardo_, ate mais
[13:14] <leonardo_> que top vei :D
[13:14] <leonardo_> firewall bagunçado! ;--;
[13:15] <leonardo_> qualquer coisa que eu precisar só vir aqui?? '--'
[13:16] <amirseni> leonardo_, google é o teu melhor amigo, se não conseguires podes tentar aqui
[13:21] <leonardo_> ahsuahsua enoa blz
[13:21] <leonardo_> então*
[13:21] <leonardo_> comec faz pra poder ajudar aqui tbm?
[13:25] <Grmlg> what can it be when my i3 laptop with 4GB RAM gives me a slideshow when browsing facebook and/or youtube?
[13:26] <leonardo_> wait grml i can help you
[13:27] <Grmlg> nice
[13:27] <leonardo_> i don't understand what your ask, you can ask me in portuguese?
[13:27] <leonardo_> i don't speak very english, i'm brazil!
[13:28] <Grmlg> greetings to brazil from germany
[13:28] <Grmlg> i speak no spanish or portuguese at all
[13:28] <Grmlg> :(
[13:28] <leonardo_> use Bing Translator or Google Translator
[13:28] <leonardo_> Here you have to conjugate verbs, and I don't know how to conjulga verbs in English
[13:28] <Grmlg> maybe somebody else can help in english?
[13:28] <compdoc> there are ubuntu channels in other languages
[13:29] <Grmlg> (help me)
[13:29] <leonardo_> more I do not know if there is in Portuguese. Although there is the ubuntu page-br.org at ufpr
[13:30] <leonardo_> I translated your inquiry, most didn't understand anything!
[13:30] <Grmlg> yeah, machine translations suck
[13:30] <leonardo_> kkkkkkkkkkk it's very true
[13:30] <SchrodingersScat> !br
[13:31] <leonardo_> thanks :)
[13:32] <gry> !info skype
[13:32] <gry> :o
[13:33] <Grmlg> nobody with an idea what could slow down my machine when browsing the web?
[13:33] <Vge> flash
[13:34] <Grmlg> facebook does not use flash, does it?
[13:34] <gry> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=skype&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all doesnt have it either, i now dont understand where i installed it from
[13:34] <Grmlg> from their website maybe?
[13:35] <gry> yes, but from their website ends in /usr/local/bin; i have it in /usr/bin
[13:36] <Grmlg> mysterious
[13:40] <Hakan> hi
[13:44] <monkwitdafunk> where can i get the torrent files for the entire 14.04 repository?
[13:44] <monkwitdafunk> i would like to be all set up before i get network time protocol
[13:46] <neurochrome> hey folks, just got asked a really good question, I don't know the answer, I wonder if one of you does?!... so... is it possible to pin an app to multiple workspaces (virtual desktops), but NOT ALL OF THEM.  Ie:  To pin an app to workspace 2 & 3 only?
[13:47] <legba> <lands with a bump!>
[13:47] <legba> <looks around in amazement>
[13:48] <legba> ladies and gentlemen, i am sad to admit my geekfu has come up short
[13:48] <ich> Germany
[13:49] <legba> <hangs head>
[13:49] <legba> i have a dual boot lappie with win 7 and ubuntu 14.04, all running quite happily
[13:50] <legba> so, i popped in one of my exfat usb sticks, only to get this error:Error mounting /dev/sdc1 at /media/legba/Falstaff: Command-line `mount -t "exfat" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,namecase=0,errors=remount-ro,umask=0077" "/dev/sdc1" "/media/legba/Falstaff"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat'
[13:50] <legba> *sigh*
[13:51] <jess44> hi
[13:51] <famax8> jess44, hi
[13:51] <legba> so, i went and dug, installed fuse...
[13:51] <legba> to no avail
[13:51] <jess44> hi famax
[13:51] <legba> so here i am, with my taale of woe
[13:52] <famax8> jess44, how are things?
[13:52] <legba> tale, even
[13:52] <jess44> good, and u?
[13:52] <legba> staggers to a chair and pours yet another drink
[13:52] <famax8> jess44, like a saturday - ^^ what issue brought you here?
[13:52] <ich>  hallo mein name ist tino meine Grafische oberflache startet nicht mehr
[13:53] <somsip> !de | ich
[13:53] <jess44> none, really i just like to help
[13:54] <famax8> ah i can see other people too
[13:54] <samthewildone> running into a problem here,  http://pastebin.com/9WChAGXb
[13:54] <famax8> i was wondering what was wrong i could only see you in here ^^
[13:55] <samthewildone> nevermind found it
[13:55] <samthewildone> "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[13:56] <Blenda> hi all, i'm new to Linux, have waited years to convert my comp, and i'm sooo happy with the result!!! I have my Blender/Gimp combo, Winamp clone (Audacious), VLC, Firefox, and even Games EMulator. The only things that don't allow me to ERASE my windows, is Ableton Live and C&C3 ;( THANK YOU TO ALL PEOPLE WHO WORKED ON LINUX/UBUNTU!!!
[13:56] <famax8> samthewildone, erm..no.. dont upgrade that way - clean install or from external drive is a safer way
[13:58] <legba> *pours another measure of the devil's own likker down his gawd-given throat and stares into space like...like...well, you know*
[13:58] <famax8> Blenda, for ableton you have alternates such as renoise - also there are the combo apps that can give the same functions just in more complete in each domaine (mixer - sampler - looper etc)
[13:59] <Blenda> famax8 : yeah i've checked renoise, and it seems to be a great software, but ican't leave Live! I saw that WIne can handle Ableton 8 (not sure), and i have to check for my PC Games
[13:59] <famax8> Blenda,  for c and c i presume is command and conquer? - Wine or playonlinux will do the job - now you will need to know if you want to go for a ubuntu studio or for a normal version
[14:00] <jess44> just run vmware
[14:00] <famax8> Blenda, i've tested the whole ableton on wine and ....eh... not that good - you need a big machine otherwise
[14:00] <Blenda> famax8: hope you've read my previous ;) Command & conquer right, about Ubuntu i don't really know, i've just tried the lighter one, and installed all the required drivers
[14:01] <famax8> vmware=lot of resources needed = big machine needed ^^ not sure our buddy has a 8gb of ram in order to be smooth
[14:01] <Blenda> famax8 : ok for ableton, i'll stay with my XP for themoment
[14:01] <jess44> wmare doesnt use that many resources and it runs the cpu direct
[14:02] <Deihmos> makes more sense to dual boot
[14:02] <Blenda> wmare is a WIne alternative? i'll check that
[14:02] <jess44> its way better
[14:02] <famax8> jess44, and also needs big graphics specs
[14:02] <jess44> virtual machine
[14:02] <Blenda> manyway i know what u mean, and i don't want to work on such a setup (Virtualization or etc)
[14:02] <jess44> no it doesnt, not for ableton
[14:02] <famax8> if you do just some app stuff like salesforce etc ok just have a big proc and is fine but for playing...
[14:03] <Blenda> my i980x has been stolen, so now i'm on my old Q6600 8Go ;( but it has a 460GTX 2Go, so i'm still alive
[14:03] <famax8> for gaming not ableton - this works on wine but not great in low specs with ram and proc - tested and it does make a difference
[14:03] <jess44> dunno about gaming, i guess it would slow down a bit
[14:03] <Blenda> sure
[14:04] <famax8> but actually yeah have a try with ableton on vmware - might work fine
[14:05] <jess44> yeah it should
[14:05] <Blenda> or VirtualBox (cause it's already installed here
[14:05] <Blenda> ?
[14:05] <famax8> give it a shot
[14:05] <Blenda> ok thanks dudes
[14:05] <famax8> ultimately is to use something other than wine
[14:05] <Blenda> so there's hope
[14:06] <famax8> which to me has never proven to work fine with ableton or any other music apps
[14:06] <famax8> laggin constantly and
[14:08] <famax8> always
[14:08] <famax8> haha
[14:08] <famax8> you can also use LMMS
[14:08] <legba> staggers to his feet and clears his throat
[14:08] <famax8> but i always recommend the good all "each their own app" all plugged to your jack controller
[14:08] <famax8> or into a live app like LV2 or SooperLooper
[14:08] <legba> ladies and germs, my name is drunk and i'm a legba
[14:09] <Blenda> enchanté
[14:09] <Blenda> famax8: you lost me :p
[14:09] <bobo69> So I recently moved my home directory from one ZFS pool to another. Everything seems to work great except, I've now noticed that the unity launcher no longer shows applications anymore. It will show files in home directory however.
[14:09] <famax8> pochtron!
[14:09] <bobo69> my .desktop files are still in /usr/share/applications
[14:09] <Blenda> non je ne suis pas un pochtron, pas de bol!
[14:10] <bobo69> and I still have my "Applications" selected in the categories
[14:10] <legba> *pets the large parrot on his shoulder*
[14:10] <legba> arrr
[14:10] <bobo69> I'm not sure if this is at all related to the zfs issue. But I only noticed after I moved the pool over
[14:10] <jess44> §)
[14:10] <famax8> Blenda, well, rather than have ableton doing all in one app but having reduced functionalities you can use one app for each functions and blend them in an ultimate one or via Qjack
[14:11] <famax8> and pochtron was for legba
[14:11] <ikonia> bobo69: how are you using zfs on ubuntu it's not part of the kernel ?
[14:11] <famax8> ^^
[14:11] <bobo69> ikonia: https://launchpad.net/~zfs-native/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[14:11] <legba> *puts a sign by his side which reads "i have an exfat / ubuntu 14.04 problem"
[14:11] <Blenda> ok it's a piece of soft that handle other softs? like VST's in a DAW?
[14:11] <Blenda> Manyway, ABleton or nothing :p
[14:11] <bobo69> ikonia: it seems to work like a charm. been runnning it for about a year now
[14:11] <legba> hell, famax, legba barely manages english
[14:12] <ikonia> ahh a ppa
[14:12] <famax8> Blenda, yeah sort of but not a vst -
[14:12] <jess44> theres also qemu but i dont know what that would be like with ableton. it emulates processors too, which seems a bit pointless to me
[14:12] <ikonia> do not use virtualization for audio processing
[14:13] <Blenda> that's the first point i agree
[14:13] <legba> *lets his big green parrot walk around on  the table*
[14:13] <Blenda> especially when you use External usb cards, what a nightmare
[14:13] <ikonia> legba: no need for random content, please keep it out of this channel
[14:14] <legba> okies...exfat question, installed fuse, installed ntfs3g, and this: Error mounting /dev/sdc1 at /media/legba/Falstaff: Command-line `mount -t "exfat" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,namecase=0,errors=remount-ro,umask=0077" "/dev/sdc1" "/media/legba/Falstaff"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat'
[14:14] <ikonia> legba: fuser and ntfs3g is already installed
[14:15] <legba> any insights, anyone?
[14:15] <Blenda> kidding mode : go Windows
[14:15] <ikonia> legba: that error is nothing to do with fuser/ntfs as it's using fat
[14:15] <legba> din't work to begin with
[14:15] <legba> okies
[14:15] <varikonniemi> hello, i changed the available cpu speeds to include the default max value of my cpu, and now the laptop's fan won't go to silent anymore even after i changed it back
[14:15] <ikonia> legba: again didn't work != not installesd
[14:16] <ikonia> legba: that error basically says it knows nothing about the file system type "extfat"
[14:16] <famax8> Blenda, "go windows"??wanna get banned?? :P
[14:16] <ikonia> which to be honest, I've never seen extfat as a file system type
[14:16] <legba> works perfectly in win7
[14:16] <legba> the flash drive, that is
[14:16] <ikonia> legba: no it doesn't
[14:16] <ikonia> legba: the disk may work perfectly but that mount command has nothing to do with windows
[14:16] <ikonia> legba: what file system is on the device
[14:17] <legba> right
[14:18] <legba> exfat, says the automount barf
[14:18] <ikonia> legba: I'm not asking you the automount barf
[14:18] <ikonia> legba: I'm asking "what file system is on the device"
[14:19] <legba> righto, fat32
[14:19] <ikonia> legba: ok, so
[14:19] <ikonia> legba: the file system type should be "vfat32" I believe
[14:19] <ikonia> legba: however I suspect you have removed packages
[14:19] <legba> okies
[14:20] <ikonia> which is why your machine doesn't appear to know what's going on with it
[14:21] <fuzzywhirlpool> For exfat, you need to install exfat-fuse - read and write exFAT driver for FUSE
[14:21] <fuzzywhirlpool> try apt-cache search exfat.
[14:21] <legba> nods
[14:21] <ikonia> again this should already be installed
[14:21] <legba> it is installed
[14:22] <ikonia> so you should not ned to install anything
[14:22] <fuzzywhirlpool> Oh, yeah. Exfat-utils is also usable to do filesystem jobs.
[14:22] <legba> so i'll have to manually mount the drive
[14:23] <ikonia> legba: you shouldn't have to
[14:23] <ikonia> legba: however I suspect you've been messing with your system removing packages
[14:23] <fuzzywhirlpool> Read the fuse manual.
[14:23] <legba> will do, thank you all
[14:23] <legba> toodles
[14:23] <famax8> trop de francais ici -__-
[14:24] <famax8> seeya man
[14:24] <famax8> have a fun hangover :P
[14:28] <jeff4> on my server side  this is what happens when i try to connect with my client.  08:59:36 https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4f4120282484fa8b0576
[14:29] <compdoc> not very useful
[14:30] <jeff4> well, client side appears to be timing out on traceroute   i get 1 * * *
[14:31] <varikonniemi> so anyone have a clue on how to get the fan to behave normally again?
[14:31] <Obamango> random question, is there a utility I can use to increase color saturation
[14:31] <jeff4> see, im trying to set up a minecraft server, but this issue seems less related to mine craft and more related to just connection....
[14:32] <famax8> is the server name a number? jess44
[14:32] <jeff4> no shouldnt be
[14:33] <jeff4> i named my server-very creatively i might add- "ubuntu"
[14:33] <famax8> thats odd - are you using a switch in the middle?
[14:34] <jeff4> no router
[14:34] <jeff4> saving up money for a cisco lab kit :)
[14:34] <famax8> as in nothing not even a router or no switch but a router?
[14:34] <jeff4> right... router plugs into both server and client
[14:36] <famax8> is the router well setup? sorry to ask the dumbest questions but you know sometimes... ;)
[14:36] <jeff4> it was no issue for a friend and I to be on the same lan, and multiplayer but we both ahd actual game clients, not server...
[14:37] <jeff4> yes, router should be set up, unless there is an extra setting im not sure off....  otherwise we wouldnt be talking :P
[14:37] <jeff4> of8
[14:37] <virtouni> Hello, people. If I get an ARM device whose architecture is properly supported by Canonical, will it have all the accompanying repositories? i.e. will I get to apt-get install like I normally do on x86?
[14:38] <ikonia> virtouni: what arm devices are support by canonical ?
[14:38] <famax8> jeff4,  "should be" is not a sure buddy...
[14:38] <compdoc> virtouni, Im not sure all repositories apply to that cpu
[14:38] <virtouni> ikonia: ARMv7 and above? You know the ones BeagleBoard and the likes use.
[14:38] <ikonia> virtouni: they don't support v7
[14:39] <virtouni> Er, v8. Confuse them sometimes.
[14:39] <Symphonym> Anyone know a safe/light-weight password manager for ubuntu?
[14:39] <SonikkuAmerica> virtouni: We'll have the click packages set up, but we'll have to deal with packages built for that arch
[14:39] <famax8> check the ports and different settings like limits of upload and remote connection (if needed)
[14:39] <virtouni> compdoc: Which does and which doesn't? Where can I find more info on all that?
[14:39] <jeff4> well, i beileve it is, because 1 ) im on the internet via the router. 2) if my friend and I open up our game clients, we can multiplayer that way.  Im merely trying to introduce a third machine with only a server client,
[14:40] <virtouni> SonikkuAmerica: Yes, I want to know if the repos are available for ARM archs.
[14:40] <ikonia> virtouni: arm is a community release
[14:40] <ikonia> virtouni: so it's not packaged/supported by caonical
[14:40] <compdoc> virtouni, im just guessing because its not x86. Be interestig to know. try it and get back to us
[14:40] <jeff4> so right now router shows both server and client 1 online/connected
[14:40] <ikonia> virtouni: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
[14:41] <virtouni> ikonia: Community-supported? But I thought Canonical released ARM images and such?
[14:41] <ikonia> virtouni: it's a community port
[14:41] <ikonia> virtouni: check the link I sent you
[14:42] <virtouni> Right, I'm moving to ubuntu-arm, thanks for the help.
[14:42] <famax8> jeff4, must be something with some limits of connection on a port or so
[14:43] <jeff4> how would i "zero" in on that?
[14:43] <jazzkutya> hi
[14:43] <jeff4> like, run traceroute from client to what should be the right port on server?
[14:43] <jazzkutya> whose bright idea was to remove bluetooth headset profile (hsp) from bluez, and by extension, ubuntu?
[14:47] <jazzkutya> altho i see ubuntu thankfully still uses the old bluez, but still my headset does not work. Connection to the headset is made but no new audio device appears. any ideas?
[14:51] <abhra> having a difficulty with ethernet connection.my lenovo G580  could not find ethernet connection even after connecting to the institute's lan through patch cable. uname -a http://paste.ubuntu.com/7785029/  ifconfig http://paste.ubuntu.com/7785033/  lshw -C network  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7785035/ please provide advice. all the links posted in google belonged to earlier versions of ubuntu (atleast 1-2 years old)
[14:52] <abhra>  all the links found in google belonged to earlier versions of ubuntu (atleast 1-2 years old)
[15:00] <blarghlarghl> hi all. i have a server that currently has 1 hard drive in it. i'd like to install ubuntu on it, and then later on convert to a raid 5 array by adding three more disks. i assume it's possible to migrate to a RAID array without losing data, but i'm not finding any info on google...
[15:01] <blarghlarghl> Any hints?
[15:01] <gry> yep 1. make backup of all data 2. play with this thing and be confident in not losing these data
[15:01] <blarghlarghl> it's entirely empty anyway, so there's no risk of losing anything
[15:02] <gry> not a very specific suggestion but being confident in what i am doing is step 1 of any process like that; someone else would be able to give you more thoughts
[15:02] <blarghlarghl> but i would like to start setting the machine up the way i need it, and then later add the disks.
[15:02] <gry> then do these 2 steps at the "later" point :)
[15:04] <jazzkutya> blarghlarghl: i would advice acquire those additiona disks faster :)
[15:07] <jeff4> .
[15:09] <Cameraman> I wish free solution would work like a Google Hangout. Totally easy to set up, really easy to use.
[15:09] <blarghlarghl> Cameraman: appear.in
[15:11] <meganerd> Cameraman: jitsi
[15:11] <meganerd> https://jitsi.org/
[15:13] <ProfessorKaos64> how can I clear unment depedencies, I have a pkg that is old that works force installed, as it was not built for trusty.  I just want to clear apt from complaining
[15:14] <levo> how to install dch ?
[15:16] <gry> how do i suspend in gnome? i see a shutdown button only
[15:18] <levo> does "dch" exist in ubuntu???????
[15:19] <SonikkuAmerica> What's dch?
[15:19] <SchrodingersScat> !info dch | levo
[15:19] <levo> SonikkuAmerica: debchange, used in debian packaging to create changelog and things
[15:19] <SchrodingersScat> !info devscripts | levo
[15:19] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh, debchange. Yes we have that
[15:20] <SonikkuAmerica> But you should probably use Debian to make packages in Debian first before packaging for Ubuntu
[15:20] <jelly> levo: presumably dch is in the devscripts package just like on Debian
[15:21] <Guest79395> Hi there, noob question, I have ubuntu 10.04 and nginx 0.7.6 installed. I want to install nginx 1.6 on it using dpkg. What's the right way to to do it?
[15:21] <xangua> Guest79395: upgrade or compile
[15:22] <levo> SonikkuAmerica: sounds like odd to me, you mean i can't create a debian package out of upstream tarball in ubuntu?
[15:22] <meganerd> use the nginx repository
[15:22] <SonikkuAmerica> levo: You could, but technically speaking that's going backwards.
[15:22] <Guest79395> meganerd: nginx repo doesn't have 1.6 for ubuntu 10.04
[15:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest79395: You shouldn't be using 10.04
[15:23] <SonikkuAmerica> We don't support it
[15:23] <notan_> hi
[15:23] <Guest79395> SonnikuAmerica: nginx 1.6 is not supported on 10.04?
[15:23] <TJ-> levo: What SonikkuAmerica is talking about is, I think, the procedure for getting a new package into the Debian and Ubuntu archives, where it is preferable to get the package into Debian so it is automatically 'synced' into the Ubuntu archives later
[15:23] <notan_> how does ubuntu be better than linux mint?
[15:23] <notan_> except all the amazon backdoors in my search
[15:23] <xangua> !better
[15:24] <notan_> !better
[15:24] <notan_> bottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about better
[15:24] <SonikkuAmerica> levo: TJ- is correct
[15:24] <notan_> so true
[15:24] <notan_> :]
[15:24] <SonikkuAmerica> !best
[15:24] <notan_> !best
[15:24] <blarghlarghl> Hm, maybe a different question here. I would like to create a custom ubuntu 14.04 image using packer/vagrant. Then I would like to commission it to my machine via pxe boot so that I don't have to ever touch the machine except initially to tell it to boot off pxe. I'd like to do this via MAAS. Can I provision docker/vagrant images via MAAS?
[15:24] <notan_> same
[15:24] <notan_> did you guys know nsa are watching on linux users
[15:25] <SchrodingersScat> notan_: 'best' used to explain how we can't decide things for you when it's a matter of case uses and preference.
[15:25] <notan_> cos we so nerdy and 1337 sk1llz we r threats
[15:25] <notan_> there cud be nsa ppls here
[15:26] <blarghlarghl> No MAAS or packer/vagrant pros here?
[15:26] <Cameraman> meganerd: Jitsi is not easy to use.
[15:27] <blarghlarghl> Cameraman: appear.in, damn it
[15:27] <Cameraman> meganerd: Jitsi is not easy to set up..
[15:27] <notan_> nsa prolly has file on every ubuntu volunteer or code contributor
[15:27] <notan_> not mint tho cos mint is cool
[15:27] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | notan_
[15:28] <notan_> there's probably at least 1 nsa mole at the ubuntu meetups, probably of a darker skin tone
[15:28] <notan_> u guys shud switch to mint
[15:28] <blarghlarghl> can we ban this fuckstick already?
[15:28] <Guest79395> SonnikuAmerica: Who's we when you said we don't support 10.04? ubuntu?
[15:28] <xangua> !language | blarghlarghl
[15:29] <SchrodingersScat> Guest79395: probably meant #ubuntu as a whole, as that's been !EOL
[15:29] <Guest79395> got it, thx
[15:29] <Guest79395> well, technically it's still supported, but it's approaching EOL
[15:29] <TJ-> 10.04.4 LTS is supported until April 2015 for Server
[15:30] <SchrodingersScat> ok
[15:31] <Cameraman> My web camera doesnt work with appear.in (but does with Cheese). How can I improve it?
[15:34] <Cameraman> I've got one web camera, and when I want to use it with WebRTC i receive: "Failed to get camera and microphone access".
[15:35] <notan_> Cameraman, maybe it is in use by nsa
[15:36] <Cameraman> notan_: Isn't WebRTS safe?
[15:36] <notan_> nsa has files on everyone so can blackmail anyone to put backdoors
[15:36] <Guest75550> hi how do I get UUID of windows harddrive? I tried blkid but it only gives it for C: but not for E:
[15:38] <Cameraman> Is there WebRTC site that You recommend?
[15:39] <Guest75550> nvn got that
[15:39] <Cameraman> It's easy to use - to registration, plugins etc.
[15:39] <Guest75550> *nvm
[15:39] <dreamercountry> Hi
[15:39] <dreamercountry> Hi
[15:40] <dreamercountry> Vnc ?can not working
[15:42] <notan_> http://www.nsa.gov/about/index.shtml
[15:42] <notan_> Our customers know they can count on us to provide what they need, when they need it, wherever they need it.
[15:42] <notan_> for reals?
[15:42] <notan_> anybody can buy our files? 0.o
[15:42] <xangua> notan_: can you please stop
[15:42] <SonikkuAmerica> !stop
[15:43] <DJones> notan_: Do you have an Ubuntu support question? If so please ask it in the channel.
[15:43] <Guest71547> hi , guys is any quick way to disable power on all usb devices for 20 sec and turn it on ?
[15:45] <notan_> imma just saying the idea of NSA spying on my children & selling my family's files to the highest bidder scares me more than any paedophile or terrorist
[15:45] <dreamercountry> Sure.
[15:45] <DJones> notan_: This channel is for Ubuntu support, please stay on topic
[15:46] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot
[15:46] <dreamercountry> I use the function on ubuntu 14.04lts
[15:47] <DJones> 16:28 < notan_> there's probably at least 1 nsa mole at the ubuntu meetups, probably of a darker skin tone
[15:48] <dreamercountry> The function is on ubuntu 14.04
[15:48] <dreamercountry> Remote desktop sharing ?
[15:50] <Cameraman> I try to connect to https://appear.in/ , I give permission to use my camera but receive: "Failed to get camera and microphone access". How to improve this? I use Ubuntu 14.04
[15:52] <dreamercountry> I guess you must be reinstall the driver for it on ubuntu 14.04
[15:52] <wheatthin> Cameraman, you can try setting the permissions in the flash global options
[15:52] <Cameraman> wheatthin: I don't use Flash.
[15:52] <Cameraman> wheatthin: It's WebRTC.
[15:52] <dreamercountry> WebRTC?
[15:53] <Cameraman> dreamercountry: Yes
[15:54] <dreamercountry> ”sudo apt-get install -reinstall webRTC
[15:55] <dreamercountry> Or you must the v4l2 is ready to run.
[15:56] <Cameraman> dreamercountry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC
[15:57] <dreamercountry> Let me think about this.
[15:59] <ki7rw> i'm having trouble with a flashplayer-installer update - anyone else having this trouble? ubuntu 14.04
[15:59] <TJ-> Cameraman: which browser and version are you using?
[15:59] <Cameraman> TJ-: Firefox 30
[16:00] <ki7rw> http://pastebin.com/aKztYwSu
[16:00] <Cameraman> TJ-: In V4L2 Test Utility camera works fine.
[16:00] <TJ-> Cameraman: same here, and it worked fine.
[16:00] <Cameraman> TJ-: Where it could went wrong?
[16:00] <TJ-> Cameraman: Are you using a regular account on the Ubuntu PC, or the guest account?
[16:00] <dreamercountry> “sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:01] <dreamercountry> It will be auto upgraded.
[16:01] <TJ-> Cameraman: what is the camera model, or it's USB vendor:product ID (from "lsusb") ?
[16:02] <Cameraman> TJ-: How to check this?
[16:02] <dreamercountry> I have the trouble for this http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/remote-desktop-sharing-in-ubuntu-14-04/1640
[16:03] <dreamercountry> How can i do for this issue?
[16:03] <TJ-> Cameraman: "lsusb" and look for the camera, assuming it is a USB-connected camera
[16:03] <Cameraman> TJ-: Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenger Plus
[16:04] <TJ-> Cameraman: Also, pastebin the output of "sudo v4l2-ctl --list-formats" - you may need to do "sudo apt-get install v4l-utils" first
[16:05] <TJ-> Cameraman: I need the USB vendor:product ID from the "lsusb" output, which will look something like "05a9:2640"
[16:07] <Cameraman> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7785312/
[16:08] <phpmyadminqqq> anyone know how to get one application on an ip through ssl and the rest without ssl?
[16:09] <Justus> hi
[16:10] <TJ-> Cameraman: OK, the problem is that the camera and driver only support one Pixel Format "GRGB", which is not supported by the WebRTC code
[16:10] <Justus> everytime I open a page in thunderbird that contains some specific ads tb opens the iframed content in the webbrowser, any ideas how to prevent this? It's only happening on ubuntu
[16:10] <coventry> How do I set things up so my system can install nvidia-current, from the command line?  It's failing with "Depends: nvidia-304 but it is not going to be installed" at the moment.
[16:10] <Cameraman> TJ-: Do I need to buy better one?
[16:12] <tytan> Does it make sense to buy a computer with an Intel core i7 instead of e.g. with an i3 or even lower?
[16:12] <tytan> I mean what could I use al the power for under Ubuntu 14.04?
[16:12] <TJ-> Cameraman: I assume you'd do better with a camera that is standard UVC, but I can't be sure.
[16:13] <Cameraman> TJ-: And this UVC stands for?
[16:14] <notan_> ubuntu runs best with an i7
[16:14] <notan_> if you want to irc while listening to music and ripping a dvd, i recommend 16 cores
[16:14] <TJ-> Cameraman: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_video_device_class
[16:15] <TJ-> Cameraman: I suspect this bug relates to the same issue you're experiencing. It contains some explanation: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=169281
[16:15] <hella> hey all
[16:15] <hella> I am trying to make a new partition using cfdisk
[16:15] <joshua7> where can i get a display driver so my gpu wont lock up
[16:16] <Cameraman> TJ-: Thank You for support.
[16:16] <Guest18199> hello
[16:17] <joshua7> any one know what i need to do
[16:17] <notan_> do you guys remember the days when your computer budget included not only hardware, but also support
[16:17] <notan_> software
[16:17] <joshua7> cuz ubuntu froze then told me that my gpu locked up
[16:17] <Guest18199> How to uninstall AMD ATI drivers manually ?
[16:18] <joshua7> i have an nvidia card
[16:18] <joshua7> gtx 580
[16:20] <joshua7> so is some one going to help me out plz
[16:26] <subz3r0> hi
[16:26] <subz3r0> atm im using this cmd: find . -maxdepth 2 -name \*.rar -exec unrar {} \;
[16:26] <subz3r0> but the rar files should be extracted in the directory where the .rar files are. not in .
[16:26] <subz3r0> any ideas?
[16:28] <TJ-> subz3r0: use "-execdir" instead of "-exec"
[16:29] <subz3r0> works
[16:29] <joshua7> i have ubuntu installed on a dual boot but my gpu lockes up
[16:29] <subz3r0> thanks :)
[16:34] <bronzero> Hi can anyone point me to php channed?
[16:34] <bronzero> *channel
[16:35] <john_doe_jr> I need to get the size of the largest files in my home directory but by ascending order..how would I do that from the command line?
[16:37] <I_M_Brony> I want penis
[16:37] <TJ-> john-mcaleely: "ls -lasr" ?
[16:37] <I_M_Brony> bazhang_: blowjob
[16:38] <notan_> !ops
[16:38] <notan_> oh thank you DJones
[16:38] <notan_> my children are in this channel
[16:38] <meganerd> john_doe_jr: alias dus="du -Pacmx --max-depth=1 . | sort -g"
[16:38] <meganerd> john_doe_jr: then type "dus" in your home dir
[16:38] <notan_> #ubuntu is our regular saturday-afternoon pasttime
[16:38] <q8hex> hey guys
[16:39] <glowx> miami
[16:39] <notan_> i take them to the park, get some fastt food and ice-cream, then we idle in #ubuntu the rest of the day
[16:39] <DJones> notan_: Do you have a support question? The channel isn;'t for general chat
[16:39] <q8hex> i have problem on connecting my iphone on the computer
[16:39] <joshua7> so can some one help me with my problem
[16:40] <q8hex> i waNT to update my iphone
[16:41] <SonikkuAmerica> notan_: Perhaps you should try idling in #ubuntu-offtppic
[16:41] <john_doe_jr> meganerd: I'm trying to use the du command but it's not working
[16:41] <SonikkuAmerica> #ubuntu-offtopic even
[16:41] <meganerd> john_doe_jr: what do you mean by "not working"?
[16:41] <notan_> oh, now my kid wants to use the computer -.-, here he comes
[16:41] <notan_> hi  guise
[16:42] <notan_> im using my dads computer
[16:42] <john_doe_jr> meganerd: getting a "du: illegal option -- -"
[16:42] <notan_> ubuntu is the coolest
[16:42] <meganerd> john_doe_jr: what are you doing to get that?
[16:42] <notan_> i just played tuxcart and came 8th place
[16:43] <joshua7> how do i fix my display driver for ubuntu cuz my gpu locks up with the default one i am using 14.04 lts
[16:44] <meganerd> john_doe_jr: I gotta run, but did you get when you ran my version of du?
[16:45] <notan_> my dad just left the room
[16:45] <xangua> joshua7: super+w
[16:45] <notan_> does anyone got any hardcore porn sites with icecreams on boobs
[16:46] <john_doe_jr> meganerd: no but I think I know what is wrong
[16:46] <meganerd> I thought that freenode did not accept tunnelbroker connections?
[16:47] <optprime> hey i am using ubuntu 14.04 desktop on my server. i am remotely logged in using ssh . i want to change the ip address(using ssh) which was set using "network connections" option using GUI
[16:47] <optprime> it is a static ip
[16:48] <meganerd> optprime: nm-connection-editor
[16:49] <meganerd> later
[16:49] <optprime> @meganerd as not able use Gtk window
[16:51] <joshua7> so i guess no one is going to help me
[16:51] <_joey> has anyone experienced sound issues after updating in the last 24 hours?
[16:52] <john_doe_jr> meganerd: found a great little command: "du -hs ** | sort"
[16:52] <optprime> any one plz . how to turn off "network connections" and force it to use interfaes file
[16:54] <demoneye> :P
[16:55] <TJ-> optprime: By default Network Manager will ignore any interface define in "/etc/network/interfaces" - see "man NetworkManager.conf" for more info
[16:55] <dreamercountry> ??
[16:56] <dreamercountry> Nobody can help me??
[16:56] <optprime> TJ- thanks figured it out
[16:56] <demoneye> how do i Uninstall google chrome off my pc?
[16:59] <loa> what mean spare in mdadm context?
[16:59] <loa> "spare drive"
[17:00] <bekks> a spare drive is a drive that will be used as replacement when another disk fails.
[17:01] <loa> and another question. I installed ubuntu 14.04 and use software raid. Now i want test it. I switched off one drive. I trying to use bootdegraded=true option. But always falling in initramfs busybox =/
[17:01] <loa> Maybe something changed and this is old? https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html#raid-maintenance
[17:02] <Xtremist> wasup fellas!
[17:03] <bekks> loa: changed compared to what?
[17:04] <redfishvanish> hi all
[17:04] <Fricetix> hi
[17:04] <Xtremist> hi redfishvanish
[17:05] <redfishvanish> I'm super new to ubuntu, but have some experience with UNIX
[17:05] <redfishvanish> but not coding in UNIX
[17:05] <Xtremist> need some linux root exploits
[17:05] <redfishvanish> I'm having some trouble with bazaar in ubuntu
[17:05] <Xtremist> need some linux root exploits
[17:05] <redfishvanish> where can I go for help?
[17:05] <bekks> Xtremist: Then you are on the wrong IRC network.
[17:06] <bekks> redfishvanish: you are in the support channel already :)
[17:06] <redfishvanish> Yay!
[17:06] <Xtremist> bekks why i had this channel has got some nasty hackers
[17:06] <bekks> Xtremist: This is a support channel, not some script kiddie wanna be hacker channel.
[17:07] <Fricetix> Xtremist: lookin for linux root exploits on an official support channel is not a good idea
[17:07] <bekks> Xtremist: Actually, Freenode is the wrong network when looking for "hackers".
[17:07] <Xtremist> oops! sorry! fellas! my bad
[17:07] <redfishvanish> so I went into the terminal and entered bzr launchpad-login [$MY_USER_NAME]
[17:07] <Xtremist> oops! sorry! fellas! my bad
[17:07] <redfishvanish> it seems like it didn't do anything
[17:07] <loa> bekks, changed to 12.04
[17:08] <TJ-> redfishvanish: it'll just do the log-in, or should... further commands will use the resulting 'cookie' for authentication
[17:08] <loa> bekks, system don't boot without one drive. but as i see it marked it as missing...
[17:08] <redfishvanish> then I tried to do a sftp bazaar.launchpad.net
[17:09] <redfishvanish> and it says that [$MY_SYSTEM_LOGIN] is not a valid user id
[17:09] <redfishvanish> then I did some digging
[17:09] <redfishvanish> and tried to do whoami
[17:10] <redfishvanish> and when I do bzr whoami, it returns my system login
[17:10] <redfishvanish> not the whoami that I set
[17:10] <redfishvanish> so I am wondering why I can't seem to reset my launchpad login
[17:11] <basketball> can i have 2 seperetate workstations (one on each monitor) i have a dual monitor set up h
[17:11] <bekks> loa: Which RAID level is it?
[17:11] <redfishvanish> TJ, is there a way to "clear" that "cookie"?
[17:11] <TJ-> redfishvanish: does "bzr whoami" show your Launchpad registered email address?
[17:12] <redfishvanish> yes, within <>
[17:12] <redfishvanish> so it bzr whoami returns <foo@bar.com>
[17:13] <TJ-> redfishvanish: and your 'push' command was something like "bzr push sftp://<your-launchpad-username>@bazaar.launchpad.net/~<your-launchpad-username>/..." ?
[17:13] <loa> bekks, raid 1
[17:14] <redfishvanish> TJ: checking
[17:14] <redfishvanish> TJ-: checking
[17:14] <loa> bekks, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.07.12-21%3A14%3A17.png
[17:14] <TJ-> redfishvanish: the last instructions I used are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaunchpadStepByStepInstructions
[17:14] <loa> bekks, it is virtualbox
[17:16] <redfishvanish> TJ-: it was bzr push lp:~$LAUNCHPAD_USERNAME/$SYSTEM_FOLDER_STRUCTURE
[17:17] <bekks> loa: And whats the exact message when "it doesnt boot"?
[17:17] <redfishvanish> this was after following the branch owner's instructions on how to setup my folders in order to join his branch
[17:17] <redfishvanish> directories
[17:18] <TJ-> redfishvanish: OK, that should alias correctly. Have you tried "bzr push --verbose ..." in case there are additional clues?
[17:18] <redfishvanish> TJ-: nope let me try that
[17:18] <loa> bekks, second i will show
[17:18] <loa> bekks, wait
[17:19] <trism> redfishvanish: the push looks wrong, it should be: lp:~username/project/branch or lp:~username/+junk/branch
[17:20] <loa> bekks, i want to talk about that "doc" https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html#raid-maintenance I have no file called /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/mdadm
[17:20] <TJ-> redfishvanish: For the project you are pushing, you need to have configured your launchpad username correctly with "bzr whoami "ME <user@domain.tld>" " - if "bzr whoami" isn't showing your luanchpad ID you've not done that
[17:20] <loa> bekks, maybe it is old information...
[17:20] <loa> bekks, i want to use degradaded state...
[17:21] <bekks> loa: Which doesnt answer my question :)
[17:21] <loa> bekks, not anser to your question, but looks like it is part of my question
[17:21] <loa> problem *
[17:22] <loa> i think i am not running system in degradaded state.
[17:22] <bekks> loa: Well, your problem is - as stated above - that you cannot boot. So we need to know the error message.
[17:22] <loa> bekks, ok i will try to do some screenshots.
[17:23] <loa> bekks, so this is without bootdegradaded=true https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.07.12-21%3A23%3A02.png
[17:23] <loa> hmm O_o system load successfully
[17:24] <bekks> loa: Thats expected, actually :)
[17:24] <TJ-> loa: have you read the "Degraded RAID" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html  ?
[17:24] <loa> TJ-, i post exact link earlier)
[17:24] <TJ-> loa: Good... I missed your earlier comments :)
[17:25] <loa> bekks, so i don't even need to setup degradaded mode?
[17:25] <loa> all will be done automaticly?
[17:26] <loa> maybe it is becouse i switched off all options in sudo dpkg-reconfigure mdadm
[17:26] <loa> there was questions about maintance for raid and email notifications?
[17:26] <TJ-> loa: what version of mdadm is on there? "apt-cache policy mdadm" ?
[17:27] <UltimaKR> Hello! Can anyone help me with installing Ubuntu 14.04?
[17:28] <TJ-> loa: "dpkg-reconfigure ..." should have (re)generated "/etc/initramfs.d/conf.d/mdadm" to contain "BOOT_DEGRADED=true"
[17:28] <sh4tr> yes
[17:28] <loa> TJ-, now i have 3.2.5-5ubuntu4
[17:28] <loa> but looks like i have update
[17:28] <loa> TJ-, no i have not got that file.
[17:28] <loa> i will check again.
[17:29] <loa> TJ-, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.07.12-21%3A29%3A43.png
[17:29] <loa> =/
[17:30] <UltimaKR> When I download the iso for Ubuntu 14.04 32 bit, I cannot seem to get the md5 to match and then when i burn to a dvd and boot, I get errors like "invalid image kernel"
[17:30] <victor_> !clone
[17:30] <delliriumy> Hello, i have a problem with (probably) driver for nvidiaa 660 GTX GEFORCE or DELL u2410 DISPLAY. I have access to terminals in shift+alt+f1-6. In desktop i have full black screen with black crossed cursor. I have created yestarday a topic on ubuntu forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2233859) with logs from syslog, xlog. I would really appriciate any help.
[17:31] <loa> TJ-, mabe path changed...
[17:32] <loa> how i can scroll up in console mode?
[17:32] <loa> i have missed something intresting in  console earlier.
[17:32] <Ovan> hello everybody. I need assistance with restoring X on my laptop. After login page, display is empty. Ubuntu 14.04.
[17:33] <TJ-> loa: No, the path hasn't changed
[17:33] <redfishvanish> TJ-: So I am not at the point where it says to use push
[17:33] <loa> TJ-, maybe i need to create by hands?
[17:34] <victor_> !automate
[17:34] <loa> and why dpkg-reconfigure mdadm don't asked about that option?
[17:34] <TJ-> loa: are you prefixing that command with "sudo " ?
[17:35] <redfishvanish> TJ-: I am "performing the bzr branch command to download a working copy of our code to the source-code directory within the subfolder"
[17:35] <victor_> !cloning
[17:36] <loa> TJ-, yes.
[17:36] <delliriumy> Nobody ever had similar problems as i do ?
[17:37] <redfishvanish> Permission denied (publickey).
[17:37] <redfishvanish> ConnectionReset reading response for 'BzrDir.open_2.1', retrying
[17:37] <redfishvanish> Permission denied (publickey).
[17:37] <redfishvanish> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.
[17:38] <redfishvanish> TJ-: this is because it is checking my permissions against the user who has a launchpad login which is the same as my system login
[17:38] <loa> TJ-, you have software raid?
[17:39] <Foorack> Hey, having this problem, tried everything but nothing seems to work, reinstall is not a option :/ http://askubuntu.com/questions/496632/sudo-unable-to-stat-etc-sudoers-no-such-file-or-directory-file-exists
[17:40] <delliriumy> Hello, i have a problem with (probably) driver for nvidiaa 660 GTX GEFORCE or DELL u2410 DISPLAY. I have access to terminals in shift+alt+f1-6. In desktop i have full black screen with black crossed cursor. I have created yestarday a topic on ubuntu forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2233859) with logs from syslog, xlog. I would really appriciate any help.
[17:40] <Ovan> delliriumy: it's laptop?
[17:40] <delliriumy> desktop
[17:40] <TJ-> loa: I think you've found a bug :)
[17:41] <delliriumy> @Ovan fresh install
[17:41] <redfishvanish> sftp returns:
[17:41] <redfishvanish> Permission denied (publickey).
[17:41] <redfishvanish> ConnectionReset reading response for 'BzrDir.open_2.1', retrying
[17:41] <redfishvanish> Permission denied (publickey).
[17:41] <redfishvanish> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.
[17:42] <loa> TJ-, i will try to upgrade my system
[17:42] <loa> TJ-, there is one update for mdadm pending
[17:42] <Ovan> please help to find the reason why compiz or whatever doesn't start after login
[17:43] <Ovan> what log should I check?
[17:43] <victor_> Anyone...  Is there a way to get list of user installed s/w that can be used when upgrading to a new version of ubuntu?
[17:44] <delliriumy> After regenerating xorg.conf and restarting lightdm i now have fucked up graphics again :/
[17:44] <redfishvanish> TJ-: Launchpad user '$SYSTEM_LOGIN' doesn't have a registered SSH key
[17:44] <Vge> victor_: sw support comes from kernel that will not "go down" after update
[17:45] <SchrodingersScat> victor_: i think dpkg -l gives a list of installed packages, but I think the apt log would tell you what you actually manually installed, there might be better options
[17:45] <loa> another question. i have this in my native language (russian) https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html#raid-degraded How i can get this in english?
[17:46] <delliriumy> Problem solved, fixed xorg.conf and restarted pc again. Everything works/
[17:47] <delliriumy> thx.
[17:47] <redfishvanish> TJ-: bzr launchpad-login returns my correct launchpad login
[17:47] <victor_> SchrodingersScat: Thanks, but that even lists the current kernel.  I imagine that would give problems on a newer OS.
[17:48] <TJ-> redfishvanish: have you done "bzr whoami "...." " to set your ID for the branch?
[17:49] <redfishvanish> TJ-: yes, but that is not my launchpad login. It's my name and the email registered with launchpad
[17:51] <loa> TJ-, i restart system again and recieved this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.07.12-21%3A51%3A37.png
[17:52] <loa> TJ-, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.07.12-21%3A52%3A25.png
[17:54] <Ovan> please help to find the root of the issue. I have installed nvidia drivers on laptop and now I have empty screen after login. I have two graphic cards CUDA.
[17:54] <TJ-> loa: what does "cat /proc/cmdline" show?
[17:55] <loa> Ovan, it is always so hard ivesntigate type of problem you faced.
[17:55] <loa> Ovan, it is just blank? You saw login manager?
[17:55] <Ovan> I saw login manager
[17:56] <loa> Ovan, if problem you faced appear after login manager try to check it logs.
[17:56] <Ovan> let me know what logs should I check. Thank you
[17:57] <loa> Ovan, sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[17:57] <loa> It is point to start... And you can check xorg logs.
[17:57] <loa> sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:59] <loa> TJ-, now it have option, becouase i passed edited it by hands in grub https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.07.12-21%3A58%3A37.png
[17:59] <loa> will try to reboot without it.
[18:00] <loa> TJ-, no, have not got it https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.07.12-21%3A59%3A58.png
[18:00] <TJ-> loa: something is weird in the "mdadm" package, I'm looking at the source and the *only* mentions of "BOOT_DEGRADED" is in the Changelog, not in any code
[18:00] <loa> TJ-, i think you need to search it in initramfs
[18:00] <loa> or maybe not)
[18:01] <redfishvanish> .
[18:02] <Ovan> Oh Xorg.0.log is so big. It will take some time to check it
[18:04] <TJ-> loa: The  source packages for initramfs-tools, mdadm nor upstart have a mention of the config option "BOOT_DEGRADED" nor the kernel command-line option "bootdegraded" ... strange!
[18:08] <TJ-> loa: hmmm, changelog says for "3.2.5-5ubuntu3" "Drop degraded array questions, since the degraded check results in false negatives" see bug #1279741
[18:08] <loa> TJ-, so what i need that to do... if one of my drive goes down?
[18:09] <loa> i am trying to emulate situation when one of my drives goes down.
[18:09] <TJ-> loa: who knows!? Better ask xnox about this in the #ubuntu-devel channel, or on the mailing list
[18:09] <loa> I have such situation earlier and i done bad decision and lost my data.
[18:11] <loa> TJ-, i have now such situation https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.07.12-22%3A10%3A55.png
[18:11] <loa> i see degraded there...
[18:11] <Ovan> loa: perhaps the easiest way is reinstall ubuntu for me :(
[18:11] <loa> so why i can't boot.
[18:11] <TJ-> loa: I suggest you create a bug report for this issue, and reference the bug I've pointed you to, and make it clear this is a *regression*
[18:12] <ikonia> I boot from a degraded arrays all the time
[18:12] <ikonia> is this something ubuntu has introduced with a patch
[18:12] <ikonia> as it isn't something that's mdadm's bug
[18:13] <TJ-> loa: From what I can see the mdadm initramfs scripts are no longer looking for "bootdegraded" but the documentation wasn't updated... looks to me like 1 dev with archive upload privileges fixing a bug that affected him, and breaking the established expectations for others
[18:13] <ikonia> TJ-: so this change is ubuntu specific
[18:13] <loa> maybe it is better to try 12.04
[18:13] <TJ-> ikonia: Yeah, introduced in Trusty by Dimitri (xnox), to fix an issue specific to his config from the bug report
[18:13] <ikonia> idiot
[18:14] <loa> when it is eol of 12.04?
[18:14] <loa> 2017?
[18:14] <ikonia> where is the checking of commits on bugs
[18:14] <ikonia> I thought someone had to review this stuff before it went into main
[18:14] <TJ-> loa: when you've created the bug report let me know the number so I can add to it
[18:15] <TJ-> ikonia: xnox is a core dev, has upload rights, so from the changelog message I'm *guessing* it got uploaded into the archive without wider checks
[18:16] <ikonia> TJ-: so basically just broke the process
[18:16] <TJ-> ikonia: That's my best guess based on loa's circumstances, but I can't say 100% unless I can reproduce it here, which I'll try to do next week
[18:17] <redfishvanish> TJ-: I've got to be going. Any wisdom on what to do?
[18:17] <ikonia> TJ-: I suspect it is ubuntu specific changes as I'm booting degraded from 3 othrer distros and their initramfs checks and passes degraded arrays
[18:18] <TJ-> redfishvanish: besides the "bzr whoami "..." ", no
[18:18] <redfishvanish> ok, thanks :)
[18:18] <loa> TJ-, you can reproduce it in virtualbox if you want.
[18:18] <TJ-> ikonia: It is, yes... no mention of "bootdegraded" or "BOOT_DEGRADED" in the source of initramfs-tools or mdadm, aside from in the changelog
[18:19] <Zelbinian> Hey there. I've been having hard-to-debug sound issues with Ubuntu, I was hoping someone here might be able to help.
[18:19] <TJ-> loa: I'll be testing it next week... I have ot go make Pizza dough right now, for dinner :)
[18:19] <loa> ok
[18:20] <loa> you thin i need to feel bug? i am bad at english and proccess. I think i will do this bad.
[18:20] <loa> will try.
[18:20] <bastard> Hi everyone , maybe somebody had the same issue, i need to login in Ubuntu after the sleep mode up to 4 times, not a big issue but annoying, any ideas?
[18:21] <loa> TJ-, it is pretty old thing...
[18:22] <ronin> If i write this: DBHOST=localhost;export $DBHOST
[18:22] <ronin> why can't i see the value with `env´
[18:23] <Ovan> loa: some magic is here. I executed /usr/sbin/lightdm-session gnome-session --session=ubuntu and it's laughed successfully
[18:24] <pietro987> ciao
[18:24] <pietro987> !list
[18:24] <loa> Ovan, and it is ok now? I remeber something that can help you. All problems when i faced strange working behaviour after login was becouse of wrong permission in user home.
[18:25] <TJ-> loa: If you start a bug report, saying this is a regression, and quote the bug number I gave you, I'll add to the bug report next week.
[18:25] <loa> ok i will try.
[18:25] <TJ-> loa: ikonia: This is what was ripped out (revision 70 in the bzr source branch): http://paste.ubuntu.com/7785795/
[18:25] <Ovan> loa: it is really strange but it's working now
[18:26] <loa> Ovan, i think it was permissions problem)
[18:26] <loa> or something was wiped.
[18:26] <loa> for example .Xauthority
[18:27] <loa> i think if set root:root to it i will have problems with logon)
[18:28] <bekks> loa: it should be owned by the user.
[18:28] <loa> bekks, i am talking about this.
[18:29] <loa> TJ-, it is so strange. I am trying to use something and it was delete. I feel unique.
[18:29] <loa> unique slowpoke.
[18:30] <Ovan> loa, thank you for assistance
[18:30] <Vars> Hey guys
[18:31] <Ovan> loa, your name Kostya?
[18:31] <raspberrypifan> how can i set up my usb gsm modem to use one fixed ttyusb
[18:31] <loa> Ovan, yes.
[18:32] <Ovan> loa, ha-ha it's my name too
[18:32] <Vars> could some help me
[18:32] <Vars> please
[18:32] <Beldar> !details | Vars
[18:33] <tractorpeace> Hello everyone, I got a problem with my new ubuntu installation. It is about the wifi card. I can detect the different wifi networks, but I can't connect to anyone. Can someone help me please !
[18:33] <Vars> ok
[18:34] <Vars> How to proper install the drivers of Intel Centrino 5300 WiFi AGN on Ubuntu. Thanks
[18:34] <got_right> hey guys i have a pretty weird crash/bug/problem with unity it appears to be somewhat related to chrome. i have no idea what could have caused this
[18:35] <Beldar> !details | got_right
[18:35] <got_right> so ive made a ask ubuntu thread: https://askubuntu.com/questions/496947/menu-and-programm-bar-crashing
[18:35] <Big_Daddy> Hi, i have what i think is a bug in upstart. Is there someone here that can help me confirm it?
[18:36] <got_right> would love if you guys could somehow help me
[18:36] <Beldar> got_right, Try the guest account and a live environment to see if this persists, also state the from to upgrade you did.
[18:36] <Vars> !pastebin
[18:37] <loa> ikonia, TJ- but again, i have no that bootdegradade option, what i can do if i lost one my drive?
[18:37] <loa> there no way to boot os?
[18:37] <got_right> okay will do, and i did a complete new installation
[18:38] <loa> or maybe access data on good drive?
[18:38] <loa> looks like i need replacement drive for that.
[18:38] <loa> and there no another way.
[18:38] <Beldar> got_right, Be careful with using the term updated, that is of no use is all and clouds the isuue
[18:43] <loa> ikonia, TJ- but in understand now why first time boot without one drive goes ok) But if i reboot my system again i have droped into busybox.
[18:45] <got_right> Beldar, i'm sorry my fault; but anyways the problem doesnt occur in a live session does however when im logged in
[18:47] <Beldar> got_right, logged in means the install?
[18:48] <frazpo_> While troublshooting Zoneminder I messed up. I gave myself directory rights and now app cannot access what it needs to. Can I reverse a command line command?
[18:48] <frazpo_> I ran sudo chown - (name) /tmp/zm
[18:48] <got_right> Beldar, yes my a session with my user account as opposed to a guest session
[18:49] <Beldar> got_right, How about the guest account, live means from a install medium like a dvd/usb boot.
[18:50] <ciop8500> Hello .  I have a question for you guys. There is some way to obtain the name of the device (eth0 wlan0 , etc) that a socket is using?
[18:51] <got_right> beldar, okay i just tested if the bug occurs in the guest account and it doesnt, sorry if im confusing you
[18:51] <got_right> i will get into this lingua eventually
[18:52] <Beldar> got_right, I'm not confused, I clearly stated "Try the guest account and a live environment" you have to read carefully. ;) So whatever the problem is it is what you have done, I have no idea of a fix.
[18:52] <tedgruen> hi, i am having problems with my bash-completion, and i cannot reinstall it. i am not sure whether the problem is with my bashrc file. while i have found bug reports on the same issue, i am not sure how to proceed.
[18:54] <apeoid> hi everyone.  O
[18:54] <got_right> beldar, okay i will be looking into it maybe i can find out more about how and when it happens but is there anyways to reinstall unity? or reset?
[18:55] <Beldar> got_right, So we have isolated that is occurred with what you have done to the OS since the install, if it was just updates it would show in the guest account. So I would concentrate on the changes you have made on the channel and change the askubuntu to reflect what we have found.
[18:55] <apeoid> I've got a hard drive that I put in the desktop computer and on it is my ubuntu installation.  now I have moved the hdd to an external enclosure with usb 3.0.  how can I get it to boot?  when it is turned on, and the computer turned on, it just stalls at the bios/uefi splash screen.
[18:56] <got_right> beldar, yup
[18:56] <excelsiora> Hi ubuntu, I'm about to fresh install 14.04 and I want to backup my keyring. Thoughts?
[18:56] <Blue11> excelsiora: also backup /home/ and /etc/
[18:57] <bekks> !backup | excelsiora
[18:57] <Beldar> got_right, There is a reset for unity and compiz, http://www.itworld.com/software/416001/reset-unity-desktop-ubuntu-1404
[18:57] <excelsiora> I'm not backing up the whole home dir. I'm only backing up what I want.
[18:57] <Blue11> excelsiora: make sure you include /etc/ then
[18:57] <bekks> excelsiora: Better backup whats important then.
[18:57] <excelsiora> all I want is all of my wifi passwords
[18:58] <excelsiora> I've already got everything else
[18:58] <Beldar> excelsiora, You can move home to it's own partition so you can do upgrades/reloads...etc with the same home.
[18:58] <excelsiora> no way, gonna start fresh
[18:58] <excelsiora> I just want my passwords
[18:59] <excelsiora> I can get them one by one, but who has time for that?
[18:59] <Beldar> excelsiora, You shou;d have that backed up anyway, what if your HD just failed?
[18:59] <excelsiora> Then I'd be SOL.
[19:00] <Beldar> excelsiora, and speaking of time spent you are now using ours free of charge, is this the wisest way? ;)
[19:00] <excelsiora> This is a convenience thing. I currently am languishing in 13.04, and I need to upgrade, I've got everything backed up except for the passwords.
[19:01] <excelsiora> everything I want. Nothing I don't
[19:01] <excelsiora> Well, probably a few things I don't. I'll check for dupes later though.
[19:01] <Beldar> 13.04 has been eol for awhile I'm seeing a trend here excelsiora ; )
[19:02] <excelsiora> I know. Guess I'll have to figure out where they are myself then.
[19:02] <excelsiora> this hasn't changed since 12.04, right?
[19:03] <Blue11> I need to upgrade my mom from 12.10
[19:03] <bekks> !eolupgrade
[19:03] <Beldar> Blue11, THat is a long upgrade from a eol to a eol, I would fresh install
[19:04] <Beldar> to 13.10 about to go eol
[19:04] <Blue11> Beldar: yes I always to fresh installs.  upgrades are problematic at best
[19:05] <Blue11> however I have my home directory in a seperate partition so upgrades are fairly straightforward
[19:05] <Beldar> Blue11, I meant fresh install to 14.04, just mentioning that 13.10 is about to go eol
[19:05] <Blue11> Beldar: yes fresh install of 14.04
[19:05] <Beldar> Blue11, move her's to a partition https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[19:06] <marth> hello Ubuntu users!
[19:06] <Blue11> Beldar: I already have her home directory in a seperate partition, why would I want to move it?
[19:06] <Beldar> Blue11, YOu had not stated that how would I know.
[19:07] <Blue11> yes I said my instead of hers - mea culpa
[19:07] <Beldar> Blue11, Your asking about upgrading when you already know about a separate home. ;)
[19:07] <Beldar> and one is actually there
[19:08] <Blue11> Beldar: no I was commenting on excelsiora approach.  My problem with my mom is she has super slow internet (tm) - like 300-500K -- I need her to bring her laptop here for a long weekend.
[19:09] <Blue11> she lives about 50 miles from me.
[19:10] <Seven_Six_Two> Can't install java7 SE using webupd8 ppa. Is there a fix in the works? Is it advised to just install from oracle directly?
[19:10] <Beldar> Blue11, 14.04 is supported for 5 years, so your choice. It sounds like you know how to do this kinda upgrade already, I'm a little confused as what you need from here.
[19:10] <Blue11> Seven_Six_Two: I think you can just install jre-default and it should pickup 1.7
[19:11] <Beldar> or just a fresh install
[19:11] <bekks> Seven_Six_Two: Elaborate "cant install" please.
[19:11] <Blue11> Beldar: yeah I want to upgrade her machine - we just need to do it here, not there.
[19:11] <Seven_Six_Two> bekks, the oracle-java7-installer downloads a file, and fails with a "sha256sum mismatch jdk-7u60-linux-x64.tar.gz
[19:11] <Seven_Six_Two> Oracle JDK 7 is NOT installed.
[19:12] <RedPenguin> hey all
[19:12] <antifa> hello guys !
[19:12] <bekks> Seven_Six_Two: So the error is very clear. Delete the file and try again.
[19:13] <antifa> does any body know where to get help on rooting Android ?
[19:13] <Blue11> Seven_Six_Two: try sudo apt-get install default-jre
[19:13] <RedPenguin> I have a buddy with Ubuntu 12.04 trying to use fglrx-legacy with RS780 HDMI, and for some reason, HDMI video works great, and you can test HDMI with MythTV and speaker-test but the system and alsamixer refuse to use the HDMI
[19:14] <Seven_Six_Two> bekks, I've done that a few times. I've also replaced it with a manual download from oracle site, but the webupd8 installer deletes it and tries to download again.
[19:15] <Seven_Six_Two> Blue11, I'm not trying to install openjdk
[19:15] <bekks> Seven_Six_Two: Maybe its because the current JDK7 version is 75 already.
[19:15] <TJ-> Seven_Six_Two: It sounds rather like Oracle have changed the file but not changed the filename, and the downloader doesn't know the hash has changed
[19:15] <Blue11> Seven_Six_Two: okay -- sorry
[19:15] <Seven_Six_Two> bekks, the oracle site is serving up 7u60
[19:16] <Seven_Six_Two> bekks, what java version are you using?
[19:16] <TJ-> Seven_Six_Two: manually generate the sha256sum of the downloaded file and compare it against the one Oracle publishes on the download page
[19:17] <Seven_Six_Two> TJ-, oh the one that the webupd8 script is downloading isn't the one that I see on the site... I'll have to look in to where its coming from. the file sizes aren't even close to the same.
[19:18] <RedPenguin> oh we installed pulseaudio and puavolcontrol
[19:18] <RedPenguin> looks like we got it workin
[19:19] <got_right> beldar: it appears to have worked :) i also did update the askubuntu, even tho i cant answer my own question yet (only 8hours after asking) so i added a comment as well
[19:19] <Beldar> got_right, excellent.
[19:20] <got_right> beldar: thank you very much <3
[19:21] <slyrus> so I've got a 14.04 box that has this strange "bouncing terminal" window phenotype. not quite sure how to describe it other than the terminal window scrolling up and down a line at a time for 10 seconds or so and then stopping. doesn't do it all the time, but does it frequently.
[19:21] <slyrus> anyone seen anything like this?
[19:21] <Beldar> no prob got_right
[19:22] <abaday> hi, I have my pi as dhcp server, and I also have a pxeboot server on another machine. How do I use my pi to redirect pxeclients to the pxeserver?
[19:27] <foxbat> abaday: you know that a pi isnt a real computer right?
[19:29] <apeoid> does anyone know why I might be having so much difficulty booting my hard drive (was internal, now in external enclosure) on usb 3.0?
[19:30] <pooltable> help play a dvd from any player?
[19:30] <apeoid> I installed ubuntu on sata this time.  I was installing on usb previously, which worked ok until reboot.  ONE TIME, it booted at reboot.  I didn't make any changes and the next time I tried to boot, it wouldn't.
[19:30] <foxbat> apeoid: cuz the device address changed
[19:30] <foxbat> check bios boot order etc
[19:30] <apeoid> what does ubuntu live disk "repair installation" do?
[19:31] <apeoid> I'm thinking about disconnecting the other drives, booting to dvd, and repairing installation?
[19:31] <foxbat> apeoid: serious question...are you on the autism spectrum?
[19:32] <foxbat> if not then u shouldnt be using linux
[19:33] <apeoid> can anyone help me with booting to usb external hard drive?  I think the issue is related to uefi/bios settings
[19:33] <foxbat> dude just install windows
[19:33] <foxbat> so your computer will actually be useful
[19:34] <apeoid> !behelpful
[19:34] <foxbat> GNU is not useful
[19:34] <rww> foxbat: #ubuntu is a support channel. Please take comments like that elsewhere.
[19:36] <foxbat> i'm helping him by trying to convince him not to try shoving a square peg into a round hole
[19:36] <rww> foxbat: No.
[19:36] <apeoid> everything I've read indicates that this operation should be successful.  it's not a thumb drive.
[19:37] <tonyt> if your bios supports booting from usb you should have no probs
[19:37] <apeoid> mobo is asus p8b75-v
[19:37] <tonyt> wether its a thimb drive or a usb hard drive that mechanical
[19:38] <apeoid> it does give me the option in uefi bios... but I should double check in docs
[19:38] <tonyt> go into your bios and change the boot order. put usb first etc
[19:38] <foxbat> if its a uefi board you need permission from microsoft in order to run linux and open source software
[19:38] <tonyt> no you donnt
[19:38] <foxbat> its true
[19:38] <pngo_> can someone tell me if chromium browser sends info to google?
[19:38] <tonyt> my machine is uefi also
[19:39] <tonyt> as i said ust go into your bios and change the boot order
[19:39] <foxbat> their curry eater ceo has to personally sign off on it
[19:39] <apeoid> ubuntu is set up on the hard drive on this machine.  I'm trying to move it from internal sata to external usb
[19:39] <apeoid> thanks
[19:40] <apeoid> it's good to know that what I'm trying to do *should* work, at least
[19:40] <tonyt> apeoid would be easier to jsut do a new install
[19:40] <apeoid> at this point, I can't.  I've got the ubuntu installation extensively set up with GIS software.  also, I have installed ubuntu over USB.
[19:41] <foxbat> sorry :(
[19:41] <Guest61323> test123
[19:42] <Guest61323> any body out there
[19:42] <apeoid> I had the drive in the external enclosure, no other drives connected in the machine, live dvd installed ubuntu 14.04, removed the install disk, rebooted to 14.04 on the hard drive IN the enclosure over USB, and at the next reboot, it just hangs on the UEFI/BIOS splash.
[19:42] <tonyt> apeoid try readin http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Precise_System_Backup
[19:42] <apeoid> thank
[19:42] <tonyt> or http://askubuntu.com/questions/151127/how-do-i-move-copy-my-entire-ubuntu-system-to-a-different-hard-disk
[19:43] <tonyt> probly better yet to read that one
[19:43] <apeoid> I see.
[19:43] <apeoid> I've compounded the issue
[19:43] <tonyt> i jsut googled your question :)
[19:44] <sfranken> @apeoid A piece of advice: it's easier to backup your documents and applications and just reinstall, save yourself a world of hurt. Coping an install is *not* for the faint or heart
[19:44] <sfranken> Just my two cents, though
[19:44] <apeoid> ok.  I'll run it on sata
[19:44] <tonyt> as i said earlier. easier to jsut do a new install
[19:45] <apeoid> I didn't realize the interface move would complicate the situation
[19:45] <apeoid> thanks for the assistance
[19:48] <Guest83128> why do i get a blavck screen when i try to download wine
[19:49] <Guest83128> hi hoppi
[19:50] <foxbat> marmite is vile
[19:50] <Guest83128> why do i get a black screen
[19:51] <foxbat> did you try
[19:51] <abc> hi guys, when I open some gnome-terminal windows (let's say 10) why can't I see them when I do ps aux? I thought I would see all of them and can kill one of them
[19:51] <foxbat> apt-get install wine
[19:51] <foxbat> ?
[19:51] <Guest83128> yes
[19:51] <Guest83128> when i download app like wie
[19:51] <Guest83128> wine
[19:54] <foxbat> if youre trying to install wine you're obviously intending to contaminate your computer with non free open source software
[19:54] <foxbat> all the software must be free
[19:54] <Guest83128> hold one
[19:55] <foxbat> the black screen is richard stallman shutting down your computer
[19:58] <Guest83128> i was installing wine a in the middle i got a black screen it was not my computer it was the software center went black so after that i let it finish and when it was done i removed it and then reinstalled it because of the black screen
[19:59] <phunyguy> hello
[19:59] <foxbat> apt-get remove wine; apt-get install wine
[19:59] <foxbat> see if that works
[19:59] <foxbat> run it as root of course
[19:59] <Guest83128> an i got this error message i dont know if this came during the first install or after i got done with the second installation
[19:59] <foxbat> because sudo is for faggots
[20:00] <Guest83128> here what it said the error message
[20:00] <jessejazza> I'd use apt-get autoremove
[20:00] <foxbat> dont use the gui tools they are useless
[20:00] <excelsiora> so does anyone know where my wifi passwords are stored?
[20:00] <excelsiora> in 13.04?
[20:01] <Guest83128> Data files for some packages could not be downloaded
[20:01] <Guest83128> The following packages requested additional data downloads after package installation, but the data could not be downloaded or could not be processed.
[20:01] <Guest83128> ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[20:01] <Guest83128> This is a permanent failure that leaves these packages unusable on your system.  You may need to fix your Internet connection, then remove and reinstall the packages to fix this problem.
[20:01] <Guest83128> ubuntu 14.04
[20:02] <Guest83128> i been trying for a week to play this one game
[20:02] <Guest83128> but i reinstalled ubuntu today
[20:03] <excelsiora> how is 14.04?
[20:03] <foxbat> did you try installing windows?
[20:03] <foxbat> bet that would work
[20:04] <Guest83128> i reather use windows thn linux but i dont have a widows cd that works
[20:05] <foxbat> playing windows games on linux is piracy
[20:06] <foxbat> even if you bought the game
[20:06] <Guest83128> game 20 ears old
[20:06] <Guest83128> 25 YEARS 24 YEARS
[20:06] <Guest83128> OLD
[20:06] <foxbat> is it a dos game?
[20:06] <Guest83128> sorry caps
[20:07] <Guest83128> yep
[20:07] <foxbat> you want dosbox not wine
[20:07] <Guest83128> i tryed dos box i olny know windows command for dos box not the linux dos box
[20:08] <rww> sigh, I stop paying attention for 15 minutes...
[20:11] <Guest83128> will the game work with wine as weel or do i need dos box
[20:15] <coderman2> has anyone ever  had to copy a file to dropbox via command line on linux?
[20:35] <excelsiora> I'm still trying to figure out how I can get all of my wifi passwords in one place
[20:37] <excelsiora> maybe I can grep for my password?
[20:42] <MO_Handes> I want to setup pptp vpn server on my home network so I can find out which clients use traffic and limit their bandwidth. best tool for doing this?
[20:44] <aeyesi> Hello, eh, could someone help me a little? (not workin touchpad) on EVERY distro (almost, older works)
[20:45] <MO_Handes> !synaptics
[20:49] <excelsiora> grep is taking forever...
[20:49] <aeyesi> well
[20:50] <platz> just came across #light as a way to execute a script.  where is this documented?
[20:50] <aeyesi> MO_Handes thanks for generic wiki but i have to keep moving even with usb mouse or it will stop working even that
[20:50] <aeyesi> anyway i guess it was not detected ? http://pastebin.com/R5P86Fvw
[20:50] <platz> i.e. #light (* exec blah *)
[20:54] <cuddylier> Anyone know why ifdown eth1 && ifup eth1 doesn't reload my interfaces file?
[20:54] <cuddylier> I've googled forever and found no solution that loads my networking on 14.04
[20:57] <aeyesi> cuddylier are u usin Lubuntu?
[20:57] <cuddylier> What is 'Lubuntu'?
[20:57] <aeyesi> a distro silly :D
[20:57] <basketball>  there a way to switch between ethernet and WIFI connections without losing connection?
[20:58] <aeyesi> ubuntu with lxde
[20:58] <cuddylier> aeyesi: I have no idea what lxde is so I assume not
[20:58] <aeyesi> desktop enviroment
[20:58] <aeyesi> kinda popular
[20:58] <cuddylier> Ah no, I am using terminal only
[20:58] <cuddylier> I have no desktop installed
[20:58] <cuddylier> ubuntu server
[20:58] <aeyesi> wow cool
[21:00] <basketballl> is there a way to switch between ethernet and WIFI connections without losing connection?
[21:01] <virhilo> hi
[21:01] <virhilo> i connected my old ubuntu instalation drive into new machine
[21:01] <virhilo> now, the volume group name is same 'ubuntu-vg'
[21:02] <virhilo> so mouning either via console or file manager fails
[21:02] <cuddylier> Anyone else any ideas why ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 doesn't reload my interfaces file on ubuntu server 14.04?
[21:02] <cuddylier> Rebooting does but I don't want to reboot everytime I add an IP
[21:02] <virhilo> any idea how to use some more unique name/rename old volume group?
[21:04] <bekks> cuddylier: because that just shuts down and starts up the interface. Just restart the networking service.
[21:05] <cuddylier> bekks: But ubuntu 14.04 removed the restarting network service command?
[21:05] <Jonnyw2k> what package do i need for make
[21:05] <Jonnyw2k> "-bash: make: command not found
[21:05] <Jonnyw2k> "
[21:05] <cuddylier> root@U3:/etc/network# service networking restart
[21:05] <cuddylier> stop: Job failed while stopping
[21:05] <cuddylier> start: Job is already running: networking
[21:05] <cuddylier> bekks
[21:06] <goff> so if restart doesn't work, try stop and then start
[21:06] <bekks> Jonnyw2k: "make"
[21:06] <goff> # service networking stop
[21:06] <goff> # service networking start
[21:06] <Ovan> Anybody know how to restore configuration files of the program?
[21:06] <cuddylier> goff: But I'm on SSH
[21:06] <goff> write a two line script and use nohup
[21:06] <goff> ;)
[21:06] <bekks> Ovan: Basically from your backup - or uninstall the program, remove the broken configs, and reinstall the program.
[21:06] <Jonnyw2k> bekks, Im missing GCC aswell :( and probably kernel sources
[21:07] <bekks> Jonnyw2k: Whats the actual issue you are having, besides installing a bunch of programs?
[21:07] <cuddylier> root@U3:/etc/network# service networking stop && service networking start
[21:07] <cuddylier> stop: Job failed while stopping
[21:07] <cuddylier> networking just won't stop
[21:07] <cuddylier> I'm using eth1
[21:07] <Ovan> bekks, I have uninstalled it. by apt-get. Then removed its conf files and installed it again. But, config files were not restored ;c
[21:07] <Jonnyw2k> bekks, its a beaglebone black, so just trying to install stuff thats not in the armhf repo
[21:08] <Jonnyw2k> so Im assuming I will need to compile them for my system
[21:08] <goff> does init.d work to restart networking?
[21:09] <aeyesi> Anyone have any skill with touchpad/mouse fixing ? xD (its hell annyoing <,<)
[21:09] <goff> # /etc/init.d/network restart
[21:09] <cuddylier> root@U3:/# /etc/init.d/network restart
[21:09] <cuddylier> bash: /etc/init.d/network: No such file or directory
[21:09] <cuddylier> No @ goff
[21:10] <goff> I'm out of ideas then. :)
[21:10] <bekks> Jonnyw2k: So just install build-essential, and the header of the running kernel
[21:11] <Kevin`> is there a way to make the software updater show package names?
[21:11] <Jonnyw2k> bekks, header?
[21:11] <bekks> Jonnyw2k: Yes.
[21:12] <Jonnyw2k> is that included in linux-source?
[21:12] <bekks> Jonnyw2k: No.
[21:19] <expo873> Ubuntu recently halved their non LTS cycles, why?
[21:19] <aeyesi> well
[21:19] <aeyesi> they though updates will be better or somethin
[21:19] <SonikkuAmerica> expo873: We halved the support period.
[21:19] <aeyesi> regular updates*
[21:21] <SonikkuAmerica> We still offer bleeding edge dailies though
[21:23] <LemonLake> i be here
[21:23] <LemonLake> being your heres
[21:23] <cheapie> Me too.
[21:23] <hoodedice> k mate
[21:24] <tshot> Hi
[21:24] <cheapie> Hi.
[21:24] <hoodedice> Hi tshot
[21:24] <LemonLake> oh my days, hi mate
[21:24] <LemonLake> like ello and stuff
 How about #ubuntu? Nothing worthwhile ever happens there.
[21:24] <LemonLake> we be here insulting your chan
[21:24] <hoodedice> cheapie, you zwizzing troll
[21:24] <cheapie> Oops, wrong spot.
[21:25]  * cheapie meant to PM that to somebody.
[21:25] <LemonLake> zwiz zwiz
[21:25] <hoodedice> zwiz the zwiz mates
[21:25] <LemonLake> omg
[21:25] <kinkinkijkin> so, how about that flamewar about performance of hardwares?
[21:25] <hoodedice> intel sucks anyway
[21:25] <cheapie> I /may/ have been sending VanessaE the "highlights".
[21:25] <LemonLake> what would a netsplit be like on this chan? 1529 total dudes
[21:25] <LemonLake> that would be entropy
[21:26] <cheapie> I've been here during a netsplit before.
[21:26] <LemonLake> describe your feelings during this horrible event, cheapie
[21:26] <hoodedice> You know what Flightgear devs say about intel
[21:26] <hoodedice> ?
[21:26] <cheapie> Well, I was new to IRC, so it was basically this:
[21:26] <kinkinkijkin> I be a performance tester on a few big things, and I can say that, hooded, your insistence on getting an AMD processor is going to make your brain hurt
[21:26]  * cheapie suddenly sees a screen full of quit messages
[21:26] <LemonLake> i thought we were being hacked or something
[21:26] <hoodedice> but.
[21:26] <hoodedice> ISRAEL.
[21:26] <cheapie> "WTF is a "*.net *.split"
[21:26] <hoodedice> -O
[21:26] <hoodedice> =O
[21:26] <LemonLake> then i goggled it
[21:27] <hoodedice> nono
[21:27] <LemonLake> and it was like 'yo this happens when dudes are like yo we movin you'
[21:27] <cheapie> goggled?
[21:27] <hoodedice> he !g net split it
[21:27] <LemonLake> hoodedice: couldn't, minetestbot was netsplit
[21:27] <hoodedice> ah ofc
[21:27] <hoodedice> how stoopid of me
[21:27] <cheapie> InchraNet's setting a world record for "world's longest netsplit", I think.
[21:27] <cheapie> It's been split for something like a month now.
[21:28] <hoodedice> InchraNet is a netsplit by nature
[21:28] <kinkinkijkin> If I might turn your attention to collective results found with the Dolphin benchmark, stinky poopoos who buy AMD processors rarely break 12 minutes, and intel's best is sitting on a cool 4 minutes
[21:28] <hoodedice> > Dolphin
[21:28] <hoodedice> > Wii
[21:28] <hoodedice> Go away
[21:28]  * cheapie is /not/ a "stinky poopoo"!
[21:28] <hoodedice> BTW
[21:28] <kinkinkijkin> okay, stinky poopoos who buy AMD processors expecting them to be faster
[21:28] <hoodedice> kerner 3.13 does not support PS3
[21:28] <kinkinkijkin> or because intel supports israel
[21:29] <hoodedice> *PS3 mote
[21:29] <bekks> !language | kinkinkijkin
[21:29] <tshot> Has anyone tested MS Office in Wine? Should I use Wine or stick to my VM?
[21:29] <bekks> !ot
[21:29] <cheapie> Grr.
[21:29]  * cheapie heads back to #minetest
[21:29] <hoodedice> tshot, MS Office works, but LibreOffice is better
[21:29] <tshot> High School requires MS Office, hoodedice
[21:30] <hoodedice> tshot, see the Wine software support page
[21:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Lolz, I get MS Office 365 University free, my college pays for it
[21:30] <hoodedice> tshot, which MS Office are you looking at?
[21:31] <SonikkuAmerica> But I use LibreOffice anyway
[21:31] <tshot> MS Office 2013, hoodedice
[21:31] <tshot> Works fine in my Windows 7 VM
[21:32] <hoodedice> tshot, it appears that MS Office 2013 on wine is "garbage"
[21:33] <tshot> Alright, Ill try MS office and wine and see how well it runs...I never go by videos
[21:35] <hoodedice> tshot, Office 2010 is rated platinum
[21:35] <hoodedice> As an alt, you can also use Office 365
[21:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah, Office 365 Web apps
[21:36] <tshot> Alright, I will keep that in mind
[21:36] <tshot> Thanks guys
[21:40] <TheDwarf> yo
[21:41] <hoodedice> cya later
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[21:50] <thecha> hi
[21:51] <TheDwarf> how's goin'?
[21:51] <basketballl> !ops | yizyqgd
[21:52] <basketballl> !ops | xtjoqet
[21:52] <kloeri> basketballl: you're a bit late
[21:55] <basketballl> thanks k1l
[21:56] <k1l> basketballl: next time they left already you can come to #ubuntu-ops to tell about them
[21:56] <basketballl> ok
[21:56] <jj88_> helloo blah blah after installing ubuntu on boot '/boot/grub/x86_64-efi/normal.mod not found' and grub rescue shell, this seems to be fairly common
[21:57] <jj88_> whats the best solution to fix?
[22:03] <ubuntu-studio> list
[22:04] <Alexander_T> hi.. how can i update to the newest mesa drivers for my radeon gpu in ubuntu 14.04?
[22:05] <gonzo_> hola
[22:06] <TheDwarf> yo gonzo
[22:06] <TheDwarf> Someone wanna talk?
[22:07] <TheDwarf> Not just the ubuntu shit  bit how you're going really?
[22:07] <TheDwarf> but
[22:07] <teward> !offtopic | TheDwarf
[22:07] <teward> !language | TheDwarf
[22:07] <TheDwarf> sorry
[22:08] <plastik> alternatives to pipelight?
[22:24] <zputrle> hello
[22:24] <TheDwarf> yo
[22:46] <m000gle> This may seem like a dumb question; but is there any way to copy a URL, from the URL bar, in versions 35+ of Google Chrome and Chromium?
[22:46] <m000gle> Since the most recent updates, clicking in the URL bar, where the URL of the current p[age is displayed, clears the bar and prevents you from copying it.
[22:46] <m000gle> I understand this is a Google Chrome & Chromium question, and I have asked it there with no response; however, as I've only experienced the issue on Ubuntu 14.04, I thought it worth asking here as well.
[22:47] <reisio> m000gle: CTRL+c doesn't work?
[22:50] <m000gle> reisio: No.  Upon clicking the URL bar, the URL disappears and leaves the bar completely blank, as if it is assuming you will be typing something else; this leaves nothing to copy.
[22:50] <MadsRC> I'm having trouble setting my $TERM to xterm-256color. Can't do it in bashrc (or zshrc) as it will then override the $TERM im using when using tmux. Where can I else put it? System won't read .profile or /etc/profile so can't put it there :S
[22:50] <reisio> m000gle: that's not what I asked
[22:51] <Yoyas> hello
[22:51] <Fishscene> Salutations
[22:51] <m000gle> reisio: CTRL-c with the cursor  in the blank bar does nothing.  The "copy" option in the context menu is greyed out.
[22:51] <MadsRC> Also tried setting it in .xinitrc and .Xdefaults (Not runnign unity but i3 as my WM)
[22:52] <reisio> m000gle: so ctrl+c then ctrl+v does nothing?
[22:52] <reisio> Fishscene: hi
[22:52] <Fishscene> Oh, I was saying hello to Yoyas. lol.
[22:53] <reisio> MadsRC: if [ ! "$TERM" = "screen" ]; then ...
[22:53] <m000gle> reisio: Nothing.  That would be the expected behaviour: 1) Click URL bar; 2) URL is now highlighted; 3) CTRL+C or Right-Click  and copy would copy the highlighted text.  This is also how in functioned in the past.
[22:53] <trism> m000gle: that's weird, it doesn't clear the bar here with chrome 35, is this -dev or -stable
[22:53] <reisio> MadsRC: or just != :p
[22:53] <MadsRC> reisio: In what file :)
[22:53] <reisio> MadsRC: whatever you want to change it in
[22:53] <reisio> ~/.bashrc, etc.
[22:54] <MadsRC> Hmm... That gave me an idea... Thanks!
[22:54] <monitor> MadsRC can now be wyatt
[22:55] <reisio> m000gle: that was chromIUM?
[22:55] <m000gle> Google Chrome 35.0.1916.153 & (Open Source) Chromium Version 34.0.1847.116 Ubuntu 14.04 aura (260972)
[22:55] <reisio> m000gle: any extensions?
[22:55] <ronin> what would be a good name for a function that checks if user account is recoverable
[22:55] <m000gle> None. Replicated it on two Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit installs.
[22:56] <reisio> ronin: is_recoverable
[22:56] <trism> m000gle: so -stable, are you using the gtk theme or the classic theme?
[22:56] <TheDwarf> bye
[22:56] <reisio> but I'd just do 'recoverable'
[22:56] <m000gle> trism: reisio: GTK ... The "Use system title bar and borders" option.
[22:57] <macscam1> hey what happens when I type this : "mv file1 ..." (note the three periods ... it's a typo from missing the slash key) - i cant find the files anymore
[22:57] <vlt> Hello. I need cryptsetup in my initrd.img.  I installed it and ran mkinitramfs but it's not included. Any idea how to trigger this?
[22:58] <reisio> macscam1: 'file ...'
[22:59] <Chaser> macscam1: ls -a you should see it. the filename should be ...
[22:59] <reisio> it's his eyes that already failed him
[23:02] <trism> m000gle: any difference if you switch to the classic theme? I don't see a difference either way, but might be a theming issue (though you would think ctrl+c/v would still work if so)
[23:05] <Ladon> I'm having a problem with xrdp on ubuntu 14.04. I'm connected via xrdp and can't do anything that requires authentication-- I'm never prompted for a password. I tried to create a blank .Xauthority, touch it, and chmod 600 but nothing changes
[23:06] <m000gle> trism: Classic theme had no effect.  One second; I'm testing out something recommended in #chromium-support
[23:07] <reisio> if it were a theme issue, it'd work even if you couldn't see it
[23:11] <Ladon> I'm using MATE at the moment but I get this error, which is the only thing I have to go off of:
[23:11] <m000gle> trism: The #chromium-support suggested CTRL+L similarly had no effect.  However, there is an interesting pattern: Every time I encounter this problem, where I click in the URL bar and it clears itself; if I remove the cursor from the URL bar, change to a new tab, and return, the original URL re-appears
[23:12] <m000gle> trism:  If I repeat those steps, going to a new tab and returning, without removing the cursor from the URL bar which had cleared itself, the bar remains empty
[23:13] <m000gle> trism: Not a bad work around, but still a bit odd
[23:13] <trism> m000gle: yes very strange
[23:14] <meLon> Hey guys.  I cannot get X to restart after `do-dist-upgrade` from 13.10 to 14.04.  I think I could fix the problem if I could only get internect access.  Using lshw, I can see my Broadcom card, but I cannot figure out which device it's linked to (ie: eth0).  I only see lo.  `ifconfig` only shows lo.
[23:15] <meLon> `cat /proc/net/dev` only shows lo, as well.
[23:15] <ikonia> then your card is not loading
[23:15] <ikonia> lo is loopback
[23:15] <ikonia> I suspect the kernel module is not loading for your card or the firmware is missing
[23:15] <meLon> ikonia: Yeah, but I'm not sure how to get it working
[23:15] <ikonia> look at the boot logs to find out whats failing, check the kernel module is loaded
[23:15] <meLon> ikonia: I installed the drivers: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/amd64/bcmwl-kernel-source/6.30.223.141+bdcom-0ubuntu2
[23:15] <ikonia> when did you install them ?
[23:15] <meLon> Well, I can't fix what dmesg is telling me ikonia, because I dont have internet access
[23:16] <ikonia> before or after the upgrade
[23:16] <Xano> The /var/mail/Xano folder on my 10.4 VPS is insanely large (17GB). What could have caused this? Do local mail servers use those folders for storage as well?
[23:16] <ikonia> meLon: how can you know you can't fix it when you don't know what ht eproblem is
[23:16] <meLon> After my boot failed and wlan0 was missing, I thought it would be good to make sure I had the drivers installed before coming in here :D
[23:16] <ikonia> meLon: so the card was working
[23:16] <meLon> x not starting is not really related to networking before login not working imo, ikonia
[23:16] <ikonia> meLon: and you installed drivers for a working card....that broke it
[23:16] <meLon> The card was working in 13.10, yes
[23:16] <ikonia> meLon: was it working after the upgrade
[23:17] <meLon> No, it wasn't working when I installed it
[23:18] <ikonia> meLon: if it wasn't working - how did you install the package
[23:20] <meLon> I really wish this thing had an ethernet card.  It's really frustrating not being able to solve the real problem.  I'm really confused as to why the computer knows its a broadcom card, but I can't see it as a network interface :\
[23:20] <ikonia> meLon: if it wasn't working - how did you install the package
[23:20] <meLon> USB man
[23:20] <meLon> dpkg -i
[23:20] <ikonia> and where all dependencies met ?
[23:21] <meLon> Yes, because I downloaded them and installed them as well
[23:21] <meLon> So, the problem is *NOT* that I don't have the drivers installed, was my point
[23:21] <ikonia> so in that case you can fix the problem
[23:21] <ikonia> who said you even need drivers ?
[23:21] <worik> Ok.  I just did a do-upgrade as prompted on login.  Now all my virtual hosts are down.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2182652 suggests that names must end in .conf (why was I not told that in the upgrade process?) Now at least I am getting errors: "[Sun Jul 13 11:20:43.164805 2014] [authz_core:error] [pid 2055] [client 8.29.152.73:48669] AH01630: client denied by server configuration: "  What does this mean?
[23:21] <ikonia> you appear to have done random things without checking for the actual problem
[23:21] <meLon> I did.  When I came in here and gave you all of the information I had, and you decided to take that little piece of information and go off on it
[23:22] <ikonia> because it's important
[23:22] <ikonia> meLon: so whats the status of the deviec
[23:22] <ikonia> device
[23:23] <meLon> It doesn't have a status.  It's not listed in ifconfig.  I am confused as to why I have a network adapter that's showing up in lshw isn't showing up in ifconfig
[23:23] <ikonia> lshw is nothing to do with if the device is configure
[23:24] <ikonia> is the module for it loaded
[23:24] <ikonia> what's the status of the card during the boot process, does it error ?
[23:24] <meLon> Word.  I've just never had it show a pretty name and not work ikonia lol
[23:24] <golionz> Hello, I my "a" key will not work, i have to copy and paste it for it work.
[23:24] <meLon> I'll go check the logs again ikonia
[23:26] <m000gle> trism: I updated to (-dev) Chromium 37.0.2062.3 Ubuntu 14.04 (279868) (64-bit) via PPA ... It does appear to have solved it, for the most part
[23:26] <m000gle> trism: 1) If the page has fully loaded, the problem no longer occurs.
[23:27] <m000gle> trism: 2) If the URL bar is clicked while the page is loading, the URL bar clears, as described in the problem above
[23:27] <m000gle> trism: That said, #1 means it's solved in the vast majority of instances
[23:30] <trism> m000gle: nice, progress anyway
[23:32] <worik> After upgrade [sic] all my apache sites are down.  Access Forbidden. "AH01630: client denied by server configuration:" in server error log.  WTF?
[23:32] <ikonia> worik: check the config
[23:32] <m000gle> trism: Yep, thanks for the help (reisio too)
[23:32] <monitor> m000gle can now be wyatt
[23:33] <worik> I am checking the config.
[23:33] <Ntemis> hello
[23:33] <worik> Changed "Order allow,deny\n   Allow from all" to "Require all granted"  No change
[23:33] <Ntemis> i need some help with a recent update
[23:34] <worik> Before the up[down]grade this was all hunky dory.
[23:34] <Ntemis> grub-pc was updated
[23:34] <Ntemis> and i got this error
[23:34] <Ntemis> http://pastebin.com/J5yQbDtK
[23:34] <Ntemis> any help appreciated
[23:34] <worik> What else do I need to change?
[23:34] <ikonia> downgrade /
[23:34] <ikonia> what are you talking about downgrade ?
[23:35] <worik> I did a 'do-upgrade' and it has broken my system.  I was very careful and read every note, or so I thought.  Not the first time
[23:35] <ikonia> so what is the downgrade you are talking about
[23:36] <worik> ikonia Un=buntu said it was an upgrade.  But now my web server is broken.  That is a down grade.  If I could find out what is wrong, perhaps it might be an upgrade.  I am regretting....
[23:36] <Ryan_> Hello guys, I just downloaded and burned the .ISO of Ubuntu onto my USB
[23:37] <ikonia> worik: that is not a downgrade at all
[23:37] <Ryan_> But when I boot from it all I get is Boot error
[23:37] <ikonia> worik: are you saying you have upgraded your whole ubuntu version from X to Y
[23:37] <worik> ikonia:  Helpful.  How do I get my virtual hosts back?
[23:37] <Ntemis> did you md5 check the iso?
[23:37] <ikonia> worik: if so from what version to what version
[23:37] <worik> Yes.  do-upgrade.  Prompted on login
[23:38] <ikonia> "do-upgrade" ?
[23:38] <worik> How do I tell what version I am running from the command line?
[23:38] <ikonia> worik: what version did you upgrade from/to
[23:38] <worik> How do I tell what version I am running from the command line?
[23:38] <ikonia> worik: you don't know what version you where running ?
[23:38] <worik> ikonia: How do I tell what version I am running from the command line?
[23:38] <ikonia> worik: answer the question
[23:38] <ikonia> worik: do you know what version you where running ?
[23:39] <worik> How would I know what version I am running?  I do not know.  I knew as I installed, then it was the version I was running.  The version number means very little to me
[23:39] <Ryan_> Can you help me
[23:39] <ikonia> worik: so you read all the documentation and information, but you don't know what version you where running and what version you upgraded to
[23:40] <Ntemis> did you md5 check the iso? Ryan_
[23:40] <ikonia> worik: sounds like you didn't do any checks
[23:40] <Ryan_> Ntemis: no I didn't
[23:40] <worik> ikonia:  It is just a number.  Why is it important?  I do not know how to detect the version from the command line.
[23:40] <Ntemis> Ryan_: can you do it now?
[23:41] <worik> ikonia:  I checked each diff of each config file as it came by.
[23:41] <ikonia> worik: it's not just a number
[23:41] <ikonia> it's very important and a critical factor in understading your system
[23:41] <Ryan_> Ntemis: how? Its a iso file
[23:41] <worik> ikonia:  It is to me!  I know it matters to you.  How can I tell from the command line?
[23:41] <ikonia> it doesn't matter nw
[23:41] <ikonia> now
[23:41] <ikonia> as you don't know what version you went from
[23:42] <ikonia> so knowing what version you went to is only %50 useful
[23:42] <ikonia> you've not done enough attention to basic detail before doing an upgrade
[23:42] <ikonia> so I'm not going to take this forward any more
[23:43] <Ntemis> Ryan_: windows or linux?
[23:43] <Ryan_> Ntemis: Its Ubuntu/Linux
[23:44] <Ntemis> You are running linux?
[23:44] <apeoid> what happens when you draw more power than your PSU can supply?
[23:44] <Ryan_> Ntemis: yes
[23:44] <worik> ikonia:  That is very passive aggressive.  From the logs "2014-07-13 10:11:15,236 INFO Using config files '['./DistUpgrade.cfg.precise']'"
[23:45] <ikonia> worik: it's not passive agressive at all
[23:45] <Ntemis> Ryan_: http://www.sinf.gr/en/hashcalc.html
[23:45] <worik> ikonia:  I have a very specific problem.  i need help wth.  I asked a series of questions and you have not answered even one.
[23:46] <ikonia> worik: because you have not done the basic checks of a full distro upgrade
[23:46] <ikonia> and you do not have the base information required to take this forward
[23:46] <ikonia> so I choose to not take this forward myself
[23:46] <Ryan_> Ntemis: ok
[23:46] <jwinterm> hello ubunters, I had a working comp with 14.04 and one nvidia 750 ti installed, I added a second card, and now when it loads up I get to the desktop, but there's no launch bar or status bar, just blank desktop
[23:47] <jwinterm> with mouse cursor
[23:47] <jwinterm> I tried ctrl-alt-f2 and then ran nvidia-smi, and it detects both cards, then I ran sudo nvidia-xconfig to try and reconfigure for second card, rebooted, same issue
[23:48] <jwinterm> any ideas on how to get functional desktop back?
[23:49] <Ryan_> Ntemis: then whhat
[23:49] <Ntemis> Ryan_: google it
[23:49] <Ryan_> Ntemis: google what
[23:50] <Ryan_> Ntemis: there wasn't orgnal md5 from the downloaded .iso
[23:51] <Ryan_> so why im i getting boot error for
[23:51] <bazhang> !hashes | Ryan_
[23:51] <bazhang> !google > Ntemis
[23:52] <Ntemis> Ryan_: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=md5+checksum+iso
[23:52] <bazhang> Ntemis, please DONT do that
[23:52] <Ntemis> well ok i wont
[23:52] <Ryan_> I just want to install Ubuntu to my laptop, not bloody worry about MD5 Hashtags
[23:53] <Ntemis> bazhang: all yours then
[23:53] <apeoid> ryan, it's a super easy and useful tool though
[23:53] <bazhang> Ryan_, md5ing the iso is a short process, and important
[23:53] <apeoid> I use it all the time now and I think it rocks
[23:54] <Ryan_> apeoid: But why im i getting boot error
[23:54] <Ryan_> bazhang: But why im i getting boot error
[23:54] <bazhang> Ryan_, checking the hash will help determine that
[23:54] <apeoid> what motherboard
[23:54] <Ryan_> bazhang: no
[23:55] <Ryan_> apeoid: I don't know
[23:55] <apeoid> get out a notepad and start working this problem
[23:55] <apeoid> come on
[23:55] <kostkon> !google | Ntemis
[23:56] <apeoid> I was new to all this linux stuff a week ago Ryan_ but I worked at it and now I have an extremely nice setup
[23:56] <Ntemis> kostkon: old news and obsolete too
[23:56] <Izaya> does anyone happen to recall the nickserv command to get it to send you your password via email?
[23:56] <Izaya> forgetting my freenodes password all of a sudden :-\
[23:56] <bazhang> Izaya, ask in #freenode for that
[23:56] <Ryan_> apeoid: OK right
[23:56] <kostkon> Ntemis, yeah, my bad
[23:57] <apeoid> https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#identify
[23:57] <Izaya> bazhang, I have. It's dead in there.
[23:57] <Ntemis> np :)
[23:57] <gry> Izaya, check your email
[23:57] <Izaya> apeoid, thank you!
[23:57] <monitor> Izaya can now be wyatt
[23:57] <bazhang> Izaya, only staff can do it
[23:57] <Izaya> and gry, thank you as well ;)
[23:57] <monitor> Izaya can now be wyatt
[23:57] <gry> welcome
[23:57] <curious2000> anyone here know to how map keystrokes to mouse buttons?
[23:57] <Ntemis> so guys any remedy for this on my server :) http://pastebin.com/J5yQbDtK
[23:58] <apeoid> Ryan, I failed after many attempts to get my usb external hdd to boot linux.  it would just hang up at the uefi/bios splash screen
[23:58] <ikonia> Ntemis: what's on /dev/sdd
[23:58] <apeoid> I ended up installing the hdd internally for now.  so I can't help much, but I know there's a massive amount of walk-throughs on linux usb thumb drive installs
[23:58] <Ntemis> ikonia: is a raid array
[23:58] <ikonia> Ntemis: grub appears to have installed sucessfully
[23:58] <Ntemis> it did
[23:58] <ikonia> Ntemis: is there actually a problem using grub ?
[23:59] <Ntemis> but after every grup-update i get all that again
[23:59] <curious2000> any trackball users here?
[23:59] <ikonia> Ntemis: so ?
[23:59] <ikonia> Ntemis: why is it a problem ?
[23:59] <ikonia> Ntemis: it can't read your raid array, it's warning you of that
[23:59] <Ntemis> grub is not installed on my raid array anyway
[23:59] <ikonia> Ntemis: it still wants to read it