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loaHello. Why bootdegraded=true option was deleted from ubuntu 14.04?11:35
bekksloa: Because a degraded RAID will still boot. :)11:40
loabekks, it is not.11:40
loaboot only one time *11:41
loaif reboot again i always droped into initramfs11:41
bekksSo whats the exact error when it isnt booting? And lets take this to #ubuntu11:41
loabekks, it boots only one, if i reboot again i recieve this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.07.13-15%3A42%3A50.png11:43
loabekks, i don't uderstand for what reason this done.11:43
loamaybe for possibility to do last backups...11:43
loai found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/127974111:44
ubottuUbuntu bug 1279741 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "Degraded array check, may not do what it says it's doing" [Undecided,Fix released]11:44
loanot i if to be true) another man from ubuntu.11:44
bekksloa: If you dont have backups at that point, its too late most likely ;)11:44
loabekks, my point to do gateway wchich will work as far as possible)11:45
bekksI didnt get that sentence.11:45
loadata is not what i am worring about.11:45
loai want degraded raid to boot ok.11:45
loai don't want that initramfs thing.11:45
loaUnder 12.04 all work as expected, that what i am talking about.11:46
bekksThe device is busy, as the message states. So better use rootdelay=11:46
loait even asking me at install "Do you want to boot degraded raid?"11:47
loabekks, what rootdelay exectly do?11:48
loai need to pass number of seconds to it?11:48
loabekks, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.07.13-15%3A49%3A46.png11:49
loabekks, do you read this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/127974111:50
ubottuUbuntu bug 1279741 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "Degraded array check, may not do what it says it's doing" [Undecided,Fix released]11:50
loai am about this part: We should attempt starting arrays with --no-degraded a few times, and after a timeout assemble them with --run, and if we don't have enough drives to start the array only then fall through to initramfs recovery shell.11:50
mapreripitti: I'm wondering if we should bother ourself with a merge like this: http://paste.debian.net/109461/ or it's better to sync it (I think the letter)13:36
xnoxloa: it was removed, because it was generating false positive, e.g. a non-degraded array was marked randomly as degraded even if it wasn't.13:49
xnoxloa: we do start them with no-degraded via udev scan/trigger, and if that fails start degraded, or else fall to udev.13:50
loaxnox, can't understand what problem that array get marked as degraded.13:50
xnoxloa: if there is something not working as expected, please open a new bug.13:51
loaxnox, i can't understnad if it is expacted or not.13:51
loaxnox, can i describe again what i do and what happened?13:51
xnoxloa: e.g. in 12.04, with RAID1 with both drives always present, a few boots would come up into initramfs and fail to boot claiming that a drive is missing.... even though it isn't.13:51
xnoxwhich is a big problem for remote machines with no console access.13:52
loaxnox, strange now i recieve totally another results.13:52
loafor example i have ubuntu 14.0413:52
loai create raid 1 and remove one drive.13:53
xnoxit will boot degraded.13:53
loaonly one time.13:53
loaif i reboot again it fallbacks to initramfs busybox13:53
loais it as expected?13:53
xnoxthat's wrong, can you please open a bug report against mdadm about that?13:53
xnoxwith $ ubuntu-bug mdadm13:53
xnoxif possible?13:53
loai will try.13:54
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loaxnox, problem that i am emulating this situation using virtualbox13:57
loamaybe it is problem.13:57
loai will recieve real hardware on next week.13:57
loaxnox, now i see that it is unstable. Sometimes it boots ok, but sometimes it drops into initramfs13:58
loamaybe it is problem of virtualbox not ubuntu.13:59
michagogo.whois bdmurray bdmurray14:16
michagogogah, wrong key -_-14:16
loaxnox, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/134131215:41
ubottuUbuntu bug 1341312 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "System couldn't boot from degraded raid 1" [Undecided,New]15:41
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