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ikoniaNtemis: so what's the actual problem ?00:00
Ntemisi just thought if there is a way all that warnings to go away00:00
ikoniajust ignore it00:00
ikoniait's not a problem00:00
Ntemisshit00:01
ikoniano need for bad langauge00:01
Ntemisit seems to be00:01
Ntemisa problem00:01
Ntemisi just rebooted the server00:01
grywhy are warnings a problem?00:02
Ntemisi now have no ssh access to it00:02
awaadHow can I save passwords while using secpanel?00:02
dreamercountryI have some issues for remote desktop connection on ubuntu 14.04?00:02
ikoniaNtemis: ssh is nothing to do with grub00:02
gryNtemis, i see, give more detail please then00:02
Ntemisdetails to what00:02
Ntemisos is not loading anymore00:02
ikoniaNtemis: you didn't say that00:02
ikoniaNtemis: you said there was no ssh access00:02
gryNtemis, about ssh. ssh with -vvv flag and pastebin please00:02
ikoniaNtemis: you've said "there is no problem it works fine"00:02
ikoniathen you said "ssh is not working"00:02
Ntemisjust rebooted after i confirm there is no issue with grub00:02
ikonianow you're saying "OS is not loading"00:02
Ntemisyeap due to grub00:03
ikoniacan you you please try to get a factual summary00:03
gryNtemis, and details about what you see when you try to boot it please00:03
Ntemisserver has no display output00:03
ikonialets make this simple00:03
ikoniaNtemis: does the server boot into ubuntu yes/no00:03
Ntemissure00:03
Ntemisnope00:03
gryNtemis, what kind of server is that? a vps?00:03
ikoniaNtemis: what point does it fail00:03
Ntemisnot after i upgraded grub00:03
gryikonia, he said it gives no output whatsoever00:04
ikoniagry: he also said it booted, it doesn't boot, and many others things00:04
ikoniaNtemis: what point does it actually fail00:04
Ntemisi gues is stuck at grub menu or something00:04
gry"or something" :)00:04
ikoniaNtemis: do you have physical access to this machine or is it remote00:04
Ntemisyes i have a physical00:05
ikoniaNtemis: so if you plug a monitor in, is it stuck at the grub menu ?00:05
Ntemisi suppose but i have to do it to tell you ->not easy right now :p00:06
ikoniawhat ?00:06
ikoniayou suppose ???00:06
ikoniathis is a really simple question "is it stuck at the grub menu as you suggested it was"00:06
gryNtemis, why not easy right now?00:06
ikoniaactually - I don't care00:06
gryyou do00:06
ikoniasomeone else can walk you through this00:06
Ntemislol00:06
TimeRiderlol00:06
Ntemisi"ll connect it tomorrow and use the keyboard to select kernel00:06
gryNtemis, it would be a nice idea to come to this chat at a time when you have access to that machine00:07
Ntemislooks like is stuck at that part00:07
gryso that you can pastebin things and give details, look things up in log files00:07
TimeRidersome things are just hard work...00:07
Ntemisyeah00:07
grythanks00:07
monitorgry can now be wyatt00:07
stevdaleDammit my Ubuntu 8.04.1 Desktop i386 cd is broken00:07
stevdaleIt won't install00:08
gryNtemis: and please don't do it again — coming with questions you can't resolve right now is a poor idea like you may have noticed by ikonia's reaction00:08
Ntemisaha00:08
IzayaTest test00:08
Beldarstevdale, eol and not supported here.00:08
Ntemisgry: wasnt started like that00:08
grythis sentence lacks the subject00:08
stevdaleBeldar: I know ;300:09
Ntemisgry: it started by a grub update and this http://pastebin.com/J5yQbDtK00:09
Ntemisand i was told is "ok"00:09
stevdaleI still have my Knoppix 3.6 cd00:09
stevdaleLol00:09
Ntemisthen i rebooted the server00:09
Beldarstevdale, Than why are you even posting?00:09
Ntemisnow am without a server00:09
Ntemis:p00:09
gryNtemis, it's a vps?00:10
Ntemisno00:10
TimeRiderkeyboard and monitor are very useful in fixing problems with servers... oddly enough...00:10
gryNtemis, then you have to come here when you're near some sort of access to it00:10
Ntemisyeap00:10
Beldarstevdale, There is a offtopic channel if you need to espouse.00:10
AruthaI just decided to get my work laptop (windows 8.1) working on my local network.. However, running exe files from my samba (4)  share runing on 14.04, the 8.1 machine seems to honor the executable bit of the files (no x bit set, windows 8.1 complains it doesn't have permission... set the x bit, and it's fine running the file).  My windows7 machine has no such issue.  Is there an easy way to fix this, other than chmod +x?00:11
Ntemisbut as am running to many machines right now connecting a new display and keyboard i way too much right now for me 3:11am :p00:11
grystevdale, I hope you're planning to install something fresh anyway :)00:11
Ntemisanw thanks for the help and support00:11
monitorNtemis can now be wyatt00:11
bazhangthanks00:11
monitorbazhang can now be wyatt00:11
ikoniamonitor: can you please stop telling people to be wyatt please00:11
gryNtemis: please don't do it again — come asking for support when you are not ready to troubleshooting — and sleep well00:12
TimeRiderwhat is wyatt? fitting for Ntemis - When You Are At The Terminal :p00:12
gry:)00:13
TimeRider.. or something00:13
Ryan_I'm getting “boot error” when trying to boot from USB00:13
BeldarRyan_, When and where and your path to this error and more details00:14
Ryan_I'm getting “boot error” when trying to boot from USB00:14
Beldar!md5sum | Ryan_00:15
ubottuRyan_: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows00:15
BeldarRyan_, Many possibilities, you have to give exact info.00:16
Ntemishey guys00:16
Ntemisproblem solved00:16
Ntemis:p00:16
Ryan_Beldar: nO md5 thanks I used startupdisk creator to burn the .iso.00:16
BeldarRyan_, Check the sum and try one of the other handfuls of usb loaders.00:17
TimeRiderNtemis: You found the power button?00:17
Ntemislol00:17
Ryan_Beldar: no md5 check OKKK!!! :@00:17
BeldarRyan_, Than do one.00:17
Ntemiskeyboard and blindly pressing enter key00:18
Ryan_Beldar: I don't want your help THANKS!00:18
TimeRiderlol00:18
BeldarRyan_, "Excellent" Mr. BUrns00:18
Ryan_So, what can this problem be Ubuntu00:18
TimeRiderSounds like the old 'user error' to me00:19
Ntemisbye and thanks00:19
AruthaIs there a setting in samba (v4 running on 14.04) to force clients to ignore the status of the x permission on files when trying to execute them?00:20
vltHello. I try to unlock a root crypt device from initrd. I created a hook script to include cryptsetup but when I enter the passphrase I get this error: http://pastebin.com/S4FWgeww -- Any idea what could be missing here?00:20
Kevin`where in ubuntu is the screen cleared before the login prompt is shown on bootup? it erases the boot messages, which is annoying00:21
vltKevin`: Don't know. Have you looked at /var/log/boot.log?00:21
Kevin`useful, but not really a solution IMO00:22
Kevin`there's so many other sources of messages on the console00:23
bazhang!nox | Kevin`00:23
ubottuKevin`: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode00:23
nahtnamHey! I need some help with setting up a firewall. Basically I want to block all connections to all ports except for 1 ip.00:23
nahtnamsorry, 2 ips00:23
Kevin`bazhang: trying00:24
daftykinsnahtnam: port != IP00:24
nahtnamdaftykins: I know. I only want to allow pg port and redis port to two ips and block any other connections'00:25
vltnahtnam: iptables -A OUTPUT -d <ip> -j ACCEPT; iptables -A OUTPUT -j DROP;00:25
nahtnamvlt: Will that allow the <ip> but deny all others?00:25
svetlananahtnam: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21870386/iptables-block-access-to-all-ports-except-from-a-partial-ip-address has an example and an explanation00:25
nahtnamthanks svetlana00:26
svetlanavlt's order looks reasonable as he/she suggested that you do the exemption first, and then drop00:27
Kevin`bazhang: that didn't change the behavior as far as I can tell, it still clears the screen00:27
kostkonKevin`, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth#Toggling_to_Traditional_Text-based_Boot00:28
nahtnamWTF00:29
nahtnamsvetlana: I ran the first command, and then the connection reset00:29
Kevin`kostkon:00:29
Kevin`# cat /proc/cmdline00:29
Kevin`placeholder root=/dev/mapper/otto-root ro console=tty0 console=hvc0 tmem earlyprintk=xen text00:29
nahtnamand now I cant connect00:29
svetlananahtnam: if you get it reboot, the iptables rules will get reset00:30
nahtnamsvetlana: NVM. Thanks to digitalocean, I was able to access via ssh00:30
svetlananice00:30
Heavy_4_EverSalut !00:31
Kevin`kostkon: as far as I can see that page is about the splash screen, which wasn't showing from the beginning00:31
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kostkonKevin`, not sure then00:32
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Kevin`I think it's done by getty somehow, since if the login prompt is missing it won't happen00:33
Kevin`what are all of the scripts run by that?00:33
nahtnamsvetlana: I have a quick question. I want to be able to ssh into the server. I know my public ip, but its dynamic. Is there a way to know the range from which my IPS can be chosen?00:34
Blue1nahtnam: not really - I use a service called dyndns00:35
vltnahtnam: If I understand your question: no.00:35
mircea_popescunathanbbb you could just reboot the modem a few times, maybe you're lucky and all fall in the same C block00:35
mircea_popescuthen just allow the a.b.c. ip00:36
Blue1dyndns solves those problems00:37
nahtnamBlue1: Ok. Ill check it out00:38
Blue1nahtnam: dyndns.org00:38
Blue1i think I pay about $20/year for the service -- it's well worth it -- if the ip changes, the router automagically contacts dyndns and the record is updated00:39
Kevin`nahtnam: your netmask is usually correct for that, but for most isps it's a VERY large range, you wouldn't want to scan it00:39
Kevin`that service used to be free. you should only have to pay if you are using a second-level domain (the cost being for the domain)00:40
Blue1Kevin`: yes I am using a 2nd level domain, and it's not free anymore00:41
Kevin`if dyndns isn't free for 3+rd level domains, there are plenty of other services that accomplish the same goal, that are free00:42
subz3r0dyndns stinks. hope they broke00:42
subz3r0Kevin`> nahtnam: your netmask is usually correct for that, but for most isps it's a VERY large range, you wouldn't want to scan it00:43
Blue1subz3r0: it works and dd-wrt is support fo it.00:43
subz3r0barely not true00:43
nahtnam???00:43
subz3r0since you can scan the whole intet within hours00:43
Kevin`subz3r0: at 1000 hosts/sec that would take 49 days00:44
subz3r0Blue1: it was about the statement scanning large networks00:45
subz3r0kevin-brown: you scan the complete ipv4 in like 45 minutes00:45
subz3r0...00:45
Kevin`citation required00:46
subz3r0citation?00:46
subz3r0its a fact.00:46
Kevin`says who?00:46
subz3r0i do00:46
Kevin`based on what?00:46
mircea_popescuthis escalated quickly...00:47
subz3r0knowledge00:47
subz3r0wisdom00:47
subz3r0lol00:47
subz3r0call it what ever u want00:47
subz3r0Kevin`: your asking the wrong questions00:47
Kevin`this isn't a puzzle00:48
subz3r0https://zmap.io00:48
andyroidHi. Is usb mobile internet a problem?00:49
subz3r0"With a single machine and a well provisioned network uplink, ZMap is capable of performing a complete scan of the IPv4 address space in under 45 minutes, approaching the theoretical limit of gigabit Ethernet."00:49
subz3r0Kevin`: so?00:49
subz3r0...00:49
andyroidOn ubuntu. Are rhese often windows only?00:49
nerdonatorIm having issues installing drivers for my geforce gtx 660.  Installing nvidia current leaves me with a black screen with a flashing cursor.00:49
Kevin`subz3r0: unmolested gig-e internet is NOT easy to get00:50
subz3r0means with a nice oc256 line its even faster00:50
subz3r0so?00:50
subz3r0anyways...00:50
Kevin`you think a user who doesn't have an ip address has access to a full bandwidth connection in a datacenter that ignores abuse reports?00:51
subz3r0Kevin`: u said its not possible. and thats nonsense00:51
subz3r0also a dedicated gbit line isnt that expensive anymore00:51
Kevin`if he does, he should be running his own dyndns service00:51
Kevin`it's pretty easy with rndc (+spelling) or various scripts00:52
Blue1Kevin`: I need a 2nd level domain so I have to pay for that.00:52
Blue1let me see if the chinese and the russians are trying to hack my system again00:53
tracyone:-!00:53
subz3r0Kevin`: once again... thats outta the topic... you said its not possible, i said yes it is. fact is it is possible... any ways ... end of discussion00:53
subz3r0Blue1: you will be scanned all day and night long... nothing special00:54
Kevin`also, that's usually done from hacked systems. the person doing the scanning may not live in russia00:54
Blue1subz3r0: I have guys trying to ssh into the box, and access my ftp server.00:55
Kevin`Blue1: normal00:55
subz3r0Blue1: thats normal00:55
Blue1subz3r0: yup00:55
subz3r0Blue1: dont use standard ports for your ssh servers00:55
subz3r0also you may want to use port knocking00:55
subz3r0or fail2ban(which is pretty easy to implement)00:56
subz3r0either do not use passwords, use a public key method instead00:56
Blue1subz3r0: yup I think I may go with security through obscurity00:56
Kevin`Blue1: obviously you should have a secure password, but obscurity helps too, if you can do it without impacting your own use00:57
subz3r0Blue1: well.. do you knwo what that menas?00:57
Blue1subz3r0: yes -- http://www.pkill-9.com is me.00:57
subz3r0Blue1: impressive ;)00:58
Blue1subz3r0: thanks00:58
subz3r0Blue1: for some fun: /j #honeypots00:59
Blue1subz3r0: what is that?00:59
subz3r0have a look. it might be interesting for you00:59
Blue1subz3r0: thanks but I will pass01:00
subz3r0Blue1: you may want to block this range: 116.10.191.0/2401:00
subz3r0:D01:00
subz3r0bad bots out there01:00
mojtaba1Hi, I am running ubuntu 14.04 LTS on Dell Studio 1555. The problem is that when I suspend the machine the next time the wireless is totally disabled. When I suspend the machine and run it again the wireless is working fine. (I have this problem after upgrading ubuntu) This occurs every other time at system boot up. Does anybody know what should I do?01:00
Blue1subz3r0: sounds like a chinese fire drill01:00
Blue1subz3r0: I have a vpn -- hosts.deny is set to all except local -- so no worries01:01
subz3r0hosts.deny is kinda outdated... but well.. if you like it :)01:01
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Blue1subz3r0: yes it is outdated01:02
Blue1i beleive the word is deprecated01:03
subz3r0yes indeed. like giving for the thousands time a openvpn install howto :D01:04
Blue1subz3r0: it is given for completeness :-)01:04
daftykinslets try and stay on message people01:05
Blue1working on an article on linux containers01:05
Blue1yes01:05
Beldarmojtaba1, Check if this happens in the guest account to start with.01:07
mojtaba1Beldar: So what should I do after that?01:08
grycome here with the answer01:09
Beldarmojtaba1, Just checking variables. Does upgrade mean from another release?01:09
mojtaba1Beldar: I have checked the system with rfkill to see if device is blocked or not at that time and it was not blocked.01:09
mojtaba1Beldar: Yes, I had 13.1001:09
Beldarmojtaba1, Good for you however not what I suggested.01:09
mojtaba1Beldar: Some other guy suggest this method before. I thought may be you would like to know that.01:10
knightshadeHi01:11
Beldarmojtaba1, What I really want to know is there a infinity of universes and dimensions can you help me there? ;)01:11
mojtaba1Beldar: :O01:12
mojtaba1Beldar: What should I do if it was blocked with the guest account and what will I find if it was not?01:12
Beldarmojtaba1, Dude I cannot help you, you are not even doing what was asked.01:13
jay___Beldar, there currently isn't enough evidence to make a conclusion either way :)01:13
Jeffrey_fknightshade: just ask your question01:13
knightshadeI don't have a question.01:14
mojtaba1Beldar: I just thought may be you have a plan? ;)01:14
nerdonatorAnybody know how to install geforce gtx 660 drivers on ubuntu.  Install nvidia-current doesnt work.01:15
Beldarnerdonator, Just info but "doesnt work" means nothing here.01:16
Beldarnerdonator, Have you checked software sources-additional drivers?01:18
KM0201nerdonator: well, what happens when you try to install nvidia-current?01:20
nerdonatorBeldar i cant get to there because i have no usable gui.01:24
nerdonatorKm0201 when i reboot,it boots to a black screen with a blinking white cursor01:25
KM0201nerdonator: how are you trying to install the driver?01:25
nerdonatorSudo apt-get install nvidia-current01:25
* KM0201 sighs01:26
KM0201why don't you look in th edashboard for "Aditional drivers"01:26
mojtaba1Does anybody else know what should I do?01:26
mojtaba1http://www.cbc.ca/sports-content/soccer/brazil2014/video/match/127283901:26
KM0201and then open that, and install the driver from there.01:26
Beldar!nomodeset | nerdonator01:26
mojtaba1oops01:26
ubottunerdonator: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter01:26
nerdonatorI have no gui01:26
mojtaba1Hi, I am running ubuntu 14.04 LTS on Dell Studio 1555. The problem is that when I suspend the machine the next time the wireless is totally disabled. When I suspend the machine and run it again the wireless is working fine. (I have this problem after upgrading ubuntu) This occurs every other time at system boot up. Does anybody know what should I do?01:26
KM0201nerdonator: did you try removing nvidia-current, and rebooting?01:26
KM0201boot recovery mode, and get to a command prompt, sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current01:27
KM0201and reboot01:27
Beldarnerdonator, Try the low graphic nomodeset, you can do all the graphic issues stuff from a TTY, but just be clear when you post you situation.01:27
jwintermnow that we're talking about nvidia maybe someone can help me with question I asked earlier01:28
Beldaror a recovery cli as suggested01:28
jwintermhello ubunters, I had a working comp with 14.04 and one nvidia 750 ti installed, I added a second card, and now when it loads up I get to the desktop, but there's no launch bar or status bar, just blank desktop with mouse cursor01:28
jwintermI tried running nvidida-xconfig, and get same thing01:28
nerdonatorKm0201, i had to reinsyall, so i amusing a fresh install, and i have a gui now.01:28
jwintermseems like I shouldn't have to reinstall driver just because I added a video card, right?01:29
KM0201..01:29
Beldarjwinterm, So two cards running or a replacement?01:29
KM0201nerdonator: you ust told me you didn't have a GUI.01:29
jwintermadded an extra, it was working fine with one01:29
KM0201if youhave a GUI, do what i said.. go to the dashboard, search for additional drivers, and install the nvidia driver from there01:29
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jwintermand when I run nvidia-smi from tty2 it shows both cards01:30
jwintermjust not sure how to "fix" desktop01:30
nerdonatorOkay, its working, i hope it will work.01:30
nerdonatorI mean its installing01:30
Beldarjwinterm, Sounds like the second card is be used rather than the one you had, there are specific drivers for cards in general.01:30
jwintermthey're the exact same card01:30
jwintermmsi 750 ti01:30
Beldarjwinterm, Pull the original and see what happens, you could do a nomodeset boot and see if the desktops shows as well.01:31
Slowinternethey all. I am having really bad issues with my internet connection01:31
Beldar!details | Slowinternet01:31
ubottuSlowinternet: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)01:31
Beldarjwinterm, A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this paramete01:32
SlowinternetBeldar: I am using 12.04 lts 64 bit. I am also using a WUSB54g Wireless adapter. I am only getting 1 - 3 mbs a second on my DL, when its suppose to be 30+mbs.01:32
jwintermit's not corrupted splash, I have autologin set and it loads to desktop, there's just nothing on desktop01:33
jwintermmeh, I think I'm just gonna install win7, nvidia seems to be such a headache on linux, and you can't even overclock/undervolt01:34
jwintermthanks anyways Beldar, I appreciate any and all help01:34
BeldarSlowinternet, Have you checked the speed on the net, and are any other computers slow e.g. the router may need a reboot? Is this your home connection, does the Ethernet run slow? Have you checked the wifi hardwares general speed?01:34
SlowinternetBeldar: This is on this computer alone. All the other ones are working fine, I am only now getting these issues after updating01:35
BeldarSlowinternet,  does the Ethernet run slow? Have you checked the wifi hardwares general speed?01:35
SlowinternetBeldar: I dont know, I cant connect to the ethernet, but the adapter should run atleast at 54 mbs01:36
Guest42173I am new to Ubuntu. I am able to compile and run a simple HelloWorld program from eclipse. When I try to run the same HelloWorld from the Terminal, I don't see any output. Why can't I run the same binary that runs from Eclipse studio won't run in Terminal.01:36
BeldarSlowinternet, here are some links to look through while you wait. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=WUSB54g01:37
Slowinterneteth0      no wireless extensions.  lo        no wireless extensions.  wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:"connell"             Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: E0:91:F5:EA:A3:0E              Bit Rate=48 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm              Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off           Encryption key:off           Power Management:off           Link Quality=70/70  Signal level=-129 dBm             Rx inv01:37
BeldarSlowinternet, Don't just post that much info use a pastebin, and really waiting for a helper to ask is best.01:38
SlowinternetBeldar: Sorry mate, Im just sure ill be disconnected soon01:38
BeldarSlowinternet, Not a good response, you are not the only user here.01:39
artemiyhello all, do you guys also help with Ubuntu Servers?01:40
dw1when I ssh to a server and enter my key passphrase it's saved for a while. how can i unsave it so it asks me again?01:40
jayjay77zWhats your password?01:41
Beldarartemiy, There is help here and #ubuntu-servers01:41
artemiyok thx01:41
slowWIFIokay, back.01:41
Beldarartemiy, Sorry #ubuntu server not a plural, DOH01:42
imran_Hello guys01:42
* piovstein bbl01:42
artemiyno problem i see it in channel list, I'm not currently having any problems, but for suture wil lbe handy to know. someone tried to hack into it recently, but setting up ssh-keys was the solution01:44
slowWIFIHey, I am having issues with my wifi card, I think. I have had to install some different drivers for it before, but now, Im just getting tired of it. What are my options.01:44
imran_I have a problem with my 9500GT01:44
KM0201slowWIFI: install new drivers.. buy new device.01:46
imran_I installed binary driver from "additional drivers" and now my whole linux hangs for like .2 secs01:46
slowWIFIKM0201: yikes. im 15, with no income01:46
KM0201slowWIFI: well, you asked for your options01:46
jwintermlol, mebbe try arch01:46
KM0201fix it or replace it, those are your options01:46
jwintermor windows :o01:47
slowWIFImight do windows01:47
KM0201might be best01:47
KM0201cuz thats free..01:47
imran_Resinstall your distro :D01:47
slowWIFIugh01:47
Guest42173I am new to Ubuntu. I am able to compile and run a simple HelloWorld program from eclipse. When I try to run the same HelloWorld from the Terminal, I don't see any output. Why can't I run the same binary that runs from Eclipse studio won't run in Terminal.01:56
Guest42173Does anyone know?01:56
nerdonatorKm 0201 thank you for your help, my system is running fine now.01:59
artemiyKM0201: hosting website, teamspeak3 client, javascript bot for plug.dj, also used to host a minecraft server, but not anymore02:05
john_doe_jrI want to copy articles from wikipedia but preserve the formatting…is that possible?02:10
subz3r0dl the page02:10
subz3r0or search for some website downloader02:10
john_doe_jrsubz3r0: wget it?02:11
rwwprint to PDF02:11
subz3r0never tried it with wget02:11
subz3r0but there are tools to download complete pages02:11
subz3r0google: linux download webpages02:11
subz3r0would try that first02:11
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john_doe_jrsubz3r0: well, pbcopy just copies text02:13
subz3r0john_doe_jr: http://www.pro-linux.de/artikel/2/624/webseiten-herunterladen-mit-gnu-wget.html02:15
subz3r0http://www.httrack.com/page/2/02:15
subz3r0sudo apt-cache search webhttrack02:16
subz3r0if you want it then: sudo apt-get install webhttrack02:16
xjkxI get screen tearing in ubuntu 14.04, nvidia, tried many things, install of a lib, increase the refresh rate, and enable vblank02:16
rwwor just save it as a PDF. or use Firefox and File -> Save Page As -> Web Page (Complete)02:20
rwwboth of which are options built in to Ubuntu02:20
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rww(and most other desktop Linux distros)02:20
MACscrlol, what the hell is going on here? http://pastie.org/pastes/9383027/text?key=bljdyzros5e64svcmes5za02:29
MACscrthis is an ubuntu 14.04 system02:29
tux_what do you mean02:32
MACscrtux_: why is it removing something and then re-adding it? Then also shouldnt it be updating puppet?02:34
MACscroops, im missing some of the output02:35
MACscrlol02:35
tux_it's not removing anything02:35
tux_it says ruby-json isn't required but you have an old version02:36
MACscrsorry, its suggesting removing something, though it actually needs to install it (ruby-json), but its actually already installed. http://pastie.org/pastes/9383042/text?key=g7ujunqtvb88cvybky7hmw02:36
tux_try removing it with sudo apt-get remove ruby-json02:38
tux_and to upgrade puppet, try running sudo apt-get install puppet puppet-common02:38
illuminatahas the ubuntu installer been known to write over a windows mbr even if the windows installation is on a completely separate drive?02:38
tux_haha. yep02:39
tux_happened to me02:39
tux_drive as in partition or hard drive?02:39
illuminataseparate ssd02:39
tux_oh. then no02:39
Beldarilluminata, If you don't point to the correct mbr yes.02:39
Beldar!bootinfo | illuminata02:40
ubottuilluminata: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).02:40
illuminatawell wasn't prompted. and thanks for ^02:40
Beldarilluminata, You can use it for yourself or to get help here, mbr stuff is pretty basic if you have the right tools and understand.02:41
illuminatait's a possible compound issue thanks to uefi02:41
illuminataso dunno if i wanna wall of text it, am trying to self diagnose02:41
MACscrtux_: lol, http://pastie.org/pastes/9383053/text02:42
Beldarilluminata, probably not an mbr issue if uefi, however that is what the best in this area use for diagnosing.02:42
illuminatagotcha, thanks again02:42
tux_well that's no good... hmm02:43
illuminatahowever, despite using uefi installer, i think it wrote as mbr - assuming my bios isn't lying to me02:43
crazyhead42I've got an xbox controller that I would like to set up, but my computer won't recognise when I mess with it, and none of the lights are on. I've installed everything I should need, but still no responce. Any ideas?02:44
illuminataso i was starting to think maybe ubuntu's installer was buggy/misbehaving02:44
illuminatabut right now my head's swimming thanks to hours of just trying to have it boot... which it can now02:44
phunyguycrazyhead42: using ubuntu?02:44
crazyhead42Yes.02:44
Beldarilluminata, Did you set it to legacy boot?02:44
tux_MACscr: what if you try sudo apt-get -f --purge ruby-json02:45
illuminatagiven that windows was legacy, yes. and i manually used the legacy installer in bios02:45
illuminataafter that i couldn't load ubuntu, no matter what it went to windows02:45
illuminataeven when taking the windows drive out as a boot option02:45
illuminatathen i used the uefi installer and it works, but i think it installed to mbr instead02:46
illuminatabecause my windows drive is first in boot order02:46
Beldarilluminata, Ah, than a mbr, you might run the script for help here should be an easy fix if everything is in order, and you have a windows recovery or install disc.02:46
illuminatathe fear is if i fix the windows mbr and move the ubuntu drive up in the boot order, will it boot to ubuntu or misbehave like before?02:47
mavidoritosi have a laptop that has uefi boot. it has come preinstalled windows 8. i want to try format it and i succeed. now i have windows 7. and i want to install ubuntu 10.0402:47
mavidoritosis it possible?02:47
illuminatabut regardless, it seems to have written to the windows mbr which i did not specify it to do02:47
illuminatas/to/over02:47
Beldarilluminata, Were you planning to use grub to boot both? Really without seeing what is there I can't help, that script takes out the 20 questions just getting there.02:48
MACscrtux_: again it says it removes it, but dist-upgrade complains about the same issues again02:48
illuminataplanned on having the ubuntu drive use grub to boot both, yes. not currently in ubuntu at the moment but i'll run the script before i go much further in here02:49
trismMACscr: try: apt-get -oDebug::pkgProblemResolver=yes dist-upgrade;02:49
CorvetteGuys so my psensor suddenly shows a lot of sensors :) but none of them are labeled how do I know what they are02:49
Beldarmavidoritos, 10.04 desktop is eol02:49
mavidoritosbut i want old gnome desktop with ubuntu02:50
mavidoritoscan i install it to my laptop?02:50
Corvettemavidoritos install MATE02:50
CorvetteIt is a fork of Gnome 202:50
mavidoritoswhich release can i use with uefi?02:50
MACscrtrism: http://pastie.org/pastes/9383075/text?key=umcl371ejps1zzkrgoiq02:51
Beldarmavidoritos, 12.04 or 14.04 both longterm, I would go 14.04 myself.02:51
Beldarmate is in 14.0402:51
tux_macscr, if you really want to get rid of it you can remove all the files that were installed with it: dpkg -L ruby-json02:51
Bashing-ommavidoritos: Be advised release 10.04 is End_Od_Life, and in the desktop no longer has support. Suggest dual boot windows 7 with ubuntu 14.04 .02:52
crazyhead42Okay, update: my controler is not seen. Anyone know how to get around that?02:52
mavidoritosok i'll try. i hope i can uninstall unity02:52
Bashing-om_Id/Of02:52
mavidoritosi love old style desktop :)02:52
mavidoritosthank you02:53
Beldarmavidoritos, unity is tiny uninstalling it us not a god idea just add the DE you want02:53
Beldargood*02:53
trismMACscr: looks like the actual problem is with that hiera package, try installing that and see what it says02:53
Bashing-ommavidoritos: If 'unity' is not to your taste, there are other desktops/releases that you may install.02:53
mavidoritosi am downloading 14.0402:55
mavidoritosafter installing i ll add mate repository02:56
trismMACscr: you might need to remove that ruby-hiera package if you aren't using it02:56
mavidoritosand ill install mate02:56
Bashing-ommavidoritos: There is ubuntu gnome ! For those " i love old style desktop :)" .02:57
MACscri am personally not a fan either of unity02:58
MACscri honestly stopped using ubuntu for desktops whenever that became default02:58
phunyguylet's try to stay on topic guys, thanks02:58
MACscruh, all of these things are on topic =P02:58
phunyguysupport, yes.  why you stopped using ubuntu, no.02:58
MACscrsure it is. Its called feedback02:59
MACscri still use ubuntu for servers02:59
phunyguythis isn't the place for feedback.02:59
MACscryour name is very misleading02:59
tux_kde plasma desktop is very pretty if you have a powerful system: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:59
cfhowlett!flavors02:59
ubottu!Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.02:59
tux_MACscr: here is an alternative: http://stackoverflow.com/a/15179077/257432203:01
tux_replace steam*deb with ruby-json_1.8.0-1build1_amd64.deb03:01
tux_or whatever it's called03:01
MACscrtux_: is this simply an issue with the dependency system for it or what?03:01
tux_i don't know. dpkg has it in its head you don't need the package, but it still wants to install it. It sounds like that could be the issue03:02
tux_did you install puppet correctly?03:02
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mavidoritosceleron b830 is enough for it?03:03
MACscrtux_: apt-get install puppet?03:03
MACscri think so =P03:03
tux_right.03:03
mavidoritosby the way i have a ubutntu 10.04 experience with my celeron 1000 desktop :)03:03
tux_what happens if you do dpkg --configure -a;apt-get -f install03:04
mavidoritos256mb sdram and celeron 1000A were great with ubuntu 10.04. so i asked 10.04 firstly.03:04
trismMACscr: tux_ the problem is not ruby-json, it is trying to install it because ruby-hiera depends on mcollective-common which depends on ruby-json, but ruby-hiera conflicts with hiera from the puppet ppa, which puppet-common depends on03:04
administrator_  universal serial bus and i.s.o. standard. what do you use too install a live iso.? any chatter that know about useing usb install thanks for looking.03:04
tux_so it seems that you need ruby-json. to keep it, try sudo apt-get install ruby-json03:05
tux_then dpkg won't see it as a package you don't need03:05
tux_do you need puppet?03:06
Bashing-ommavidoritos: Dual core processor, maxed out ram at 16 gigs; should run anything you care to throw at it.03:06
administrator_<p>sites pointing to install usb installer.?<p>03:06
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bjrohan_Hi all. I want a script that will backup an entire directory, and include the date in the filename. This will run once a day via cron. I would like to only keep the past 7 days .tar files. I have the tar line done in my script, how do I go about only keeping the previous 7 days worth?03:15
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tux_you could maybe name them by the day, bjrohan_03:18
bjrohan_tux_:  gotcha,03:19
tux_as for the backup, use rsync03:19
tux_or: cp -a initialDirectory/ Sunday/03:19
administrator_rio03:20
guest-nHO0suok so that did not work03:22
guest-nHO0suI am able to log into the users account from tty103:22
guest-nHO0subut not the login manager03:22
guest-nHO0suit just goes blank and restarts03:23
guest-nHO0suBashing-om, can you please re-post those instructions and my history was wiped03:23
guest-nHO0suI wonder if the problem is because of my .ICEauthority being deleted03:23
guest-nHO0subecause like I said I already ran sudo chown lsemple:lsemple /home/lsemple03:24
gsingh93_So I've used the Startup Applications tool to make a .desktop file, but I keep getting this error in syslog: Could not parse desktop file test.desktop or it references a not found TryExec binary03:24
gsingh93_I've double checked the binary exists at that path03:24
guest-nHO0suif you guest are wondering my problem. I cannot login via the login manager to XFCE,03:26
guest-nHO0suas I ran sudo startx from tty1 accidently and it changed permissions to my home folder03:26
tux_check this out: http://serverfault.com/a/185438/214180 ,bjrohan_03:26
lionelmehdiHey03:28
lionelmehdiChannel French,,M03:28
lionelmehdiIl y a des francais03:29
bjrohan_tux_: I figured after the tar was crated I would use rsync once a day to copy to another system03:29
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lionelmehdiFrench03:29
somsip!fr | LittleFool03:31
ubottuLittleFool: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.03:31
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mojtabaHi, I am running ubuntu 14.04 LTS on Dell Studio 1555. The problem is that when I suspend the machine the next time the wireless is totally disabled. When I suspend the machine and run it again the wireless is working fine. (I have this problem after upgrading ubuntu) This occurs every other time at system boot up. Does anybody know what should I do?03:57
IspiraOkay, I have a rather complicated situation and a lovely problem along with it.04:00
IspiraMy hard drive failed, and I can't afford to get a new one for a week or so, until then my only choice is running Ubuntu off of a USB stick (Pretty much brand new, 8GB flash drive)04:01
IspiraI followed the official guide on the ubuntu website to make a persistent livecd04:01
IspiraMy problem is, it's HORRIFICLY slow04:01
cfhowlettIspira of course.  you're running the OS entirely from ram.04:02
cfhowlettIspira the fix: install lxde or xfce4, logout, choose lubuntu/xubuntu session, login.  that will give *some*  relief04:02
meganerdIspira: flash drives are horrifically slow, even usb3 ones04:02
Ispirathe livecd without persistance is faster than this....much faster04:02
IspiraI understand usb drives are slow, but it shouldn't take 20 seconds to open terminal :/04:03
meganerdIspira: you can just carve out a small partition, format it as ext2/3/4 or whatever, then copy your data there.04:03
meganerdIspira: on USB2 that sounds about right04:03
IspiraIt's a USB3 flash drive, running the ubuntu livecd without persistance it's just as snappy as windows 804:04
IspiraI have the casper-rw partition separate, as per the guide, so it's 6GB04:04
meganerdIspira: right, the IO is going to be brutal.04:05
IspiraSo the solution is just remaking the livecd and storing data on a separate usb stick?04:05
meganerdIspira: without persistance it can all run from ram, or only reads from the usb drive04:05
Ispiramy only issue is that I have an R9-270 graphics card that requires a driver04:06
cfhowlettIspira AND use the lighter desktop environment04:06
meganerdIspira: or a seperate partition on the usb drive.  This is in fact what I do on the rare occasions that I have need of such a thing04:06
Ispiraelse ubuntu is reallllllyy visually glitchy04:06
meganerdIspira: a big +1 to lmde or xfce04:06
Ispiraalright04:06
IspiraI'll try that04:06
Ispirathanks for the help04:06
Ben64but yeah, flash drives are slow unless you get a really good one04:07
IspiraI guess my fix is just never turning it off/rebooting04:07
cfhowlettIspira unity is very hungry.  don't use it04:07
Ben64even if its usb3, it doesn't mean it's any faster than usb204:07
Ispiramy write speed on the USB stick is ~40MB/s and read is ~80MB/s not sure how that compares to other drive04:09
Ispiratested it a few weeks ago when I bought it before my hard drive ate the dust04:10
GRMrGeckoHello, what could cause the error "attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'"? It appears to be a grub error.04:11
IspiraAlright, I'm going to go make another livecd04:12
meganerdIsolol: those are fantistic speeds assuming that you can actually get them real world04:13
meganerdalso, many USB 3 ports can switch between USB3 and USB2, so your live enviroment might be limited to 20 MB/sec (USB2), and you will also pay a heavy CPU price for that IO04:14
yapatelis qt5 available through a PPA?04:14
function9nah he's got something messed up there. Either driver related or bios issues, or faulty flash drive.04:14
cfhowlett!info qt504:15
ubottuPackage qt5 does not exist in trusty04:15
cfhowlett!info qt04:15
ubottuPackage qt does not exist in trusty04:15
function9I got an asus x55a laptop. I think I'm having a driver issue. when I type sudo ifconfig in the terminal, I always get 0 bytes on the RX and TX. I'm on kubuntu 14.04. I tried with Linux mint still the same. Even on my kde Network manger applet, it shows no data transmitting. I guess i should be greatful I can connect on the internet. But still04:22
syntroPi_apt-cache search 'qt.*5'04:22
function9any ideas if this is possible to fix?04:22
mojtabaHi, I am running ubuntu 14.04 LTS on Dell Studio 1555. The problem is that when I suspend the machine the next time the wireless is totally disabled. When I suspend the machine and run it again the wireless is working fine. (I have this problem after upgrading ubuntu) This occurs every other time at system boot up. Does anybody know what should I do?04:24
Bashing-omfunction9: network card detected ? Terminal commands -> sudo lshw -C network , lspci | grep Ethernet .04:25
function9Bashing-om, network card is detected, and works great, it's just I would like to see how much I am downloading or uploading. I know it's a relatively new laptop, so I guess this is kinda expected04:26
function9bah pastebin.com is under heavy load04:28
rwwpaste.ubuntu.com04:29
function9rww, ty04:29
teward!pastebin > function904:30
ubottufunction9, please see my private message04:30
Bashing-omfunction9: I am aware that there are aps that will give you real time info, but I do not use them and have no direct knowledge, -> ifconfig eth0 <- for a current status.04:30
function9Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7787603/04:30
function9Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7787608/ see how it says 0 bytes for RX/TX04:31
function9or 0 for everything04:32
function9brb phone04:34
Bashing-omfunction9: Nope, that output shows a screaming interface ( speed=1Gbit/s). [logical name: eth0] To see the the status of the interface -> ifconfig eth0 <- .04:37
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function9Bashing-om, that's what I did04:45
function9Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7787633/04:45
Bashing-omfunction9: look'n at your /7787633/04:46
function9Bashing-om, what's got me baffled is this laptop is certified by ubuntu04:47
Bashing-omfunction9: Humm.. pops to mind you are using the wireless interface and the wired (eth0) interface is inactive ???04:48
function9Bashing-om, my wireless is wlan0 and it to works well, but the same too, no data TX/RX read out :(04:49
function9Bashing-om, I got a PC with kubuntu 14.04 fresh install just like this laptop and it shows the TX/RX read out.04:50
function9Bashing-om, same with my virtualbox guest os, works well shows TX/RX read out04:50
Bashing-omfunction9: Wow, that is strange ! .. Where that info is generated, I do not know, this has become above my paygrade as the interfaces do work.04:50
function9Bashing-om, that's why I ask here hopefully some one could shed some light04:51
function9Bashing-om, is my hunch correct, this is a driver issue?04:51
Bashing-omfunction9: Roger that, here is the best minds in the business, wait and see who else responds.04:52
function9ok04:52
thefancymanhey ubuntu geeks04:52
function9hi04:52
function9brb04:52
thefancymansure thing function904:52
Bashing-omfunction9: Not a driver issue, else would not work, More a collection of info issue.04:52
thefancymanhey. anyone know how to upgrade from 13.04 to 14.04??04:53
mojtabaHi, I am running ubuntu 14.04 LTS on Dell Studio 1555. The problem is that when I suspend the machine the next time the wireless is totally disabled. When I suspend the machine and run it again the wireless is working fine. (I have this problem after upgrading ubuntu) This occurs every other time at system boot up. Does anybody know what should I do?04:53
cfhowlett!eolupgrade|thefancyman OR download 14.04 and clean install04:53
ubottuthefancyman OR download 14.04 and clean install: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades04:53
Ispirawellp, I got a liveCD of Xubuntu up and running, I'm just storing my files on a separate USB04:54
IspiraRunning smoothly though04:54
Ispirathanks for the help.04:55
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racecongetting started on virtualization for a couple of headless servers running 14.04, would kvm or xen be the way to go?05:10
cfhowlettracecon ##linux or ##ubuntu-server can advise05:10
raceconthx, much appreciated05:11
cfhowlett#ubuntu-server05:11
NameLess-exe\n05:22
zlude_Hello! Someone can help me giving a north american ssh server? no root needed, i just need test a ssh reverse proxy to test if a browser rpg game can be more faster when using a "proxy"05:26
Ali_M_Ahmedguys please can someone tell me how to change default 'main' font in manjaro lxde desktop ?05:27
Ali_M_Ahmedguys please can someone tell me how to change default 'main' font in ubuntu lxde desktop ?05:27
Ali_M_Ahmedguys please can someone tell me how to change default 'main' font in ubuntu with lxde desktop ?05:27
cfhowlett!patience|Ali_M_Ahmed05:27
ubottuAli_M_Ahmed: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/05:27
* rww raises an eyebrow05:27
Ali_M_Ahmedok sorry dear ubottu05:28
varunendrafunction9, I was following your conversation here, got distracted by a call. What is your objective? To see Tx, Rx data, or to figure out why ifconfig fails to show it (which I don't know myself)?05:31
whatisthishow can I edit a file with root permissions from a user login, I edited the sudoers and gave all permissions but i still have to sudo ...05:37
octalmageIs this page loading funny for anyone else?05:39
octalmagehttps://design.ubuntu.com05:39
function9varunendra, for some reason this laptop is unable to give the TX/RX, also on using several apps from kde, the network applet nm is unable to show the download and upload speed. Same with superkaramba. My PC has kubuntu 14.04, and my virtualbox guest OS kubuntu 14.04 all fresh install like this laptop works great. It's just this laptop is not fully functional like my pc.05:40
function9varunendra, I'm trying to figure out if this is a driver related issue??05:41
varunendrafunction9, perhaps you mentioned that both wifi and ethernet interfaces are having this same problem?05:42
function9varunendra, correct, they don't show the TX/RX, but they work fine using the internet05:42
rwwoctalmage: yes05:42
octalmagethats silly.05:43
function9varunendra, I also tried Linux Mint on this laptop, and it's the same issue05:43
varunendrafunction9, then it doesn't look like a driver problem to me. It could be, but both interfaces use entirely different drivers, so it is highly unlikely that it is a driver issue.05:43
varunendrafunction9, have you also tried 'nload'? Though I believe if nm-tool fails to report the speed, nload and similar tools will fail too.05:44
function9varunendra, correct nload show nothing05:47
function9no activity rather05:48
varunendrafunction is the command "nload -u K eth0" type?05:48
function9varunendra, nothing 0 kb05:48
editionhi05:48
function9hi05:48
editionhow do I view the encryption of my Wifi?05:49
editiontried this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140228405:49
editionbut expecting something like AES...05:49
editionwhere to look?05:49
editionIts definitely wpa205:49
function9varunendra, the issue is on the kernel level right? obviously it's not the application level, right???05:50
varunendrafunction9, have you also tried some distro using a different kernel version? Both ubuntu and mint having same problem are ruling out some possibilities, unless they are also using the same kernel and other related package versions.05:50
varunendrafunction9, I was also thinking the same thing ^^ :)05:50
function9varunendra, that's what I'm about to do next, I'm going to try out opensuse, see if this laptop works well with that. I just got to download suse05:51
editiondoes WPA2 assume a certain encryption, by default?05:51
varunendraedition, nm-tool shows the encryption type the listed APs are using. Then "sudo iwlist scan" shows detailed info.05:51
editiontried it. doesn't display encryption type for wlan005:52
varunendrafunction9, you could also use a previous release of Ubuntu or mint, maybe 12.04.2 or ....305:52
editionor my router (in cell1)05:52
varunendraedition, tried what?05:52
editionsudo iwlist scan05:52
function9varunendra, will do. I'll report back here in a couple of days. thanks for the help. :)05:53
function9bbl05:53
varunendraedition, if it shows "Encryption Key" to be "on", but doesnt' show encryption type, then it is using WEP encryption. You can confirm that by logging into your router/APs web interface05:54
editionomg05:54
editionwhy does it say WPA2?05:54
cfhowlettedition cuz that's what it's using.05:54
varunendraedition, "iwlist scan" ?05:54
editionsorry05:54
editionthanks05:54
editionjust need to find router ip...05:55
varunendraedition, usually it is what your 'Gateway' IP is.05:55
edition:)05:55
varunendraedition, in what context are you doing this exercise by the way?05:56
editionchecking05:56
editionneighbours :P05:56
editionstealing my wifi05:56
varunendrawe gotz sneakerz here :p05:57
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editionmy own router05:57
varunendra:D05:57
editionok05:57
sandmann_check in05:57
editionhow to get router ip again? i forgot05:58
meganerdip route |grep default05:59
editionthanks05:59
meganerdedition: ip route |grep default05:59
editiondoesn't the nickname offend you?06:00
meganerdedition: if you are talking to me, I am not sure what you mean06:00
editionthats fine.06:01
editionpeople use nerd as an insult.06:01
meganerdedition: the kind of people who  would use that word in the pejorative sense are not typically the kind of people who matter to me.06:02
editiongood.06:02
editioncan you get the IPs of other WiFi routers?06:02
meganerdat my age I simply don't care06:03
meganerdedition: not unless you are connected to it06:03
editionah.06:03
editionwhat about the device address?06:03
editionnon viable?06:03
meganerdedition: device MAC address is broadcast, well the wireless part is.  You have no idea what the WAN side MAC is, nor would it typically help you06:04
edition:)06:04
meganerdyou need to decrypt the frames sent over the air or just connect to that wireless network06:05
editionis there a channel for wifi security?06:05
meganerdprobably06:05
cfhowlettedition ask ##linux06:05
editionthanks. your advice has been really helpful.06:05
meganerdI doubt it06:05
editionit has06:05
editiona big thankyou to everyone who runs this IRC channel.06:06
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gryedition, :)06:20
editionwelcome back06:20
gryedition, I think  there is ##security with people who may be aware of wifi security -- not os specific.06:21
editionthanks06:21
nahtnamIs it weird where when I enable IP tables to filter PG connections, it slows down like hell?06:23
nahtnamSometimes PG takes a few seconds to respond instead of a few milliseconds06:23
grywhat is PG, and how are you doing this?06:24
nahtnamgry: Postgres. I am using this tut. http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/postgres-allow-remote-access-tcp-connection.html/06:24
monsegurok06:26
grynahtnam, those do not look like things that would slow it down to me; would you perhaps check logs of postgresql (it has an option to log slow queries) and probably ask the #postgresql channel?06:26
grythere is a question of what is being slow — iptables or postgresql.06:27
whatisthisis indian takeaway healthier than mexican06:27
GirlTalk.06:27
whatisthisand where are the services06:27
grywhatisthis, it varies.06:27
grywhatisthis, would you like to ask ##nutrition or a local channel?06:28
monsegur##ass06:28
grymonsegur, hi.06:28
monsegursnitch06:28
grymonsegur, how can I help you?06:29
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GirlTalk!factoid06:29
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots | Make a clone of me: /msg ubottu botclone06:29
gryGirlTalk, hi.06:29
tmg1|fmlI have a partition that does not appear to have been a gpt...yet if I try to make a partition the same size (976751937 blocks) both fdisk and cfdisk seem unable to do so.  I'm thinking the drive came from the manufacturer with a partition and I just mkfs.ext3'd it.  Any idea how to recreate that size of partition exactly?06:29
GirlTalkhi06:29
grytmg1|fml, why would you like it to be of the same size?06:30
monsegurhi gry06:30
monsegurdo you think cheese pizza is healthier than other kinds of pizzas06:30
monsegurim trying to order one but i cant tell whats healthies06:30
monsegurt06:30
grymonsegur, I had attempted to forward you. Please follow. :)06:30
grycouldn't give advice here, as it depends on the cheese heavily — I am allergic to cheese.06:31
tmg1|fmlgry I accidentally dd'd the first 1gb of my disk.  I made a backup image of the disk (post-dd) and if I remove the (nonsensical) partition table and create a new one starting on the correct sector, fsck -b correctly finds a superblock...but the partition I create is too small06:31
grytmg1|fml, I see.06:32
monsegurwhat about flour06:32
monseguris there different kinds of flour06:32
grymonsegur, you should have an invite.06:32
monseguroh here06:32
grytmg1|fml, it's a complicated question, I had never formatted things. Please stick around for a few minutes.06:33
tmg1|fmltbh even if it's not precisely the same size, as long as I get relatively (99%) close to the size of the disk that might be ok.  Any help is appreciated, take your time06:34
tmg1|fmlbut it seems like fsck can only do 512gb and cfdisk can only do 1tb images06:34
tmg1|fmlyet somehow this was possible with what...might have been? just a mbr06:34
wheezer!foo06:35
ubottufoo is [baz|bar|wibble]06:35
wheezerwat06:35
wheezeroh06:35
wheezerI highlighted someone06:35
grywheezer, hi.06:35
wheezerhey gry06:35
nahtnamThanks gry06:35
Nickd55345353hello06:37
Nickd55345353please06:37
gryhi.06:37
Nickd55345353when i installed adobe reader06:37
Nickd55345353it said that the package is bad quality06:37
Nickd55345353why?06:38
tmg1|fmlNickd55345353: what was the exact error message?06:38
Nickd55345353i installed it from the official site06:38
Beldar Nickd55345353 Where did you get it from?06:38
Nickd55345353the official site  of course06:38
grythat could be; it is a third-party package not reviewed by anyone from the ubuntu community06:38
gryif you really like to look at pdf files, there are okular and evince packages available which do the job pretty well06:38
BeldarNickd55345353, And the official site is?06:38
tmg1|fmlNickd55345353: pastebin if verbose06:38
Nickd55345353adobe.com06:38
BeldarNickd55345353, Not supported here.06:39
gryif you're concerned, I would contact the Adobe support and ask them what they've done06:39
Nickd55345353xD06:39
Nickd55345353no i am fine06:39
Nickd55345353but i was wondering06:39
Nickd55345353ty though06:39
gryin 99% of cases you're not interested in their specific product as ubuntu has plenty (built-in even) means to annotate, view, and edit pdf files06:39
Nickd55345353yes i know that06:39
gryif you like I can show you few tools which detect issues with a given package and give you a verbose output; is that what you'd like to see?06:40
Nickd55345353but my windows pc only supports adobe reader and i want to transfer pdfs and stuff06:40
grythat's fine, it's a pretty open format and the files should just work out of the box I believe06:40
Nickd55345353yes tell me if u can06:40
grygive me a few minutes and I'll do that06:40
gryNickd55345353: would you please give me the exact error message text? it would make it easier for me to look it up for you06:41
Nickd55345353yes06:41
Nickd55345353it said the quality of the package is bad06:41
gryok06:42
BeldarNickd55345353, It is not supported here, take it somewhere else.06:42
Nickd55345353ok bloke06:42
gryyou should be able to download the .deb and run this command against it: ``lintian ~/Downloads/where/did/I/put/it/name_of_package.deb'' and see details of the issues, hopefully06:42
Nickd55345353it works fine though06:43
gryI hope that some extra understanding of how packaging works wouldn't hurt in this case despite the package being provided from an external source06:43
Beldargry, Why as a freenode staffer are you off topic earlier and supporting not support apps here?06:44
iceroot_Nickd55345353: if possible you should try to avoid using adobe reader because its 1. not free and open source software, 2. it is known for security issues, 3. its non-free software from the us.  there are better solutions06:44
doctorpenguinhey guys I am having trouble editing /etc/fstab06:45
Beldardoctorpenguin, Give us details06:45
Blue1doctorpenguin: how are you trying to edit it?06:45
Nickd55345353such us06:46
Nickd55345353such as*06:46
gryBeldar, I sent you an /msg if you don't mind taking a look please06:46
Nickd55345353tell me a better solution06:46
doctorpenguinI edited fstab for my raspi pi raspian to auto mount something for samba and I gave it auto,rw,exec,user. It mounts in ro despite what I specify06:46
iceroot_Nickd55345353: evince for example06:46
Beldardoctorpenguin, This is ubuntu support06:46
doctorpenguinsec I will paste it06:46
gryNickd55345353, I mentioned evince and okular as some reasonably sane pdf reading and annotating software, pdfedit also lets you edit them06:46
iceroot_Nickd55345353: i would say every pdf viewer which is free and open source software06:47
doctorpenguinand raspian is a distro built on ubuntu06:47
Beldardoctorpenguin, Not supported try ##linux06:47
iceroot_doctorpenguin: raspian is based on debian06:47
doctorpenguinjoin #linux06:47
Nickd55345353can you tell me which is the best?ty06:48
iceroot_Nickd55345353: the one you like most06:48
iceroot_Nickd55345353: the one you like most which is free and open source software06:48
grydoctorpenguin, they have a  #raspbian channel here I believe, as mentioned at their wiki.06:53
Nickd55345353hello06:57
Nickd55345353can u tell me one thing06:57
Blue1Howdy tex06:57
Nickd55345353because i am new to linux06:57
Nickd55345353what security should i use?06:57
tmg1|fmlNickd55345353: are you thinking "security" like "norton" or "macafee" in the windows world?06:57
Nickd55345353something like that06:58
tmg1|fmlthey aren't really necessary06:58
Nickd55345353i know that linux are well protected06:58
Nickd55345353but i heard that there are a few viruses out there06:58
Blue1Nickd55345353: Ihave been running Linux for almost a decade and I have never used a/v software06:58
Nickd55345353malware*06:58
tmg1|fmlthere's an antivirus (clamav) available, and rootkit checkers(rkhunter and a few others) but for the most part, most of the threats are simply not applicable06:59
Nickd55345353with only firefox (addons included) and firewall am i well protected?06:59
Blue1Nickd55345353: I'd say you are good to go06:59
Nickd55345353good07:00
tmg1|fmlNickd55345353: probably not supported here but if you use firefox, try noscript extension out.  It's stopped xss attacks for me, but otherwise your biggest threat is probably going to be whatever extensions you use/firefox07:00
dieterbrehmexit07:00
tmg1|fmlcareful with noscript though: it's not for everyone and can disable a lot of useful functionality07:00
Nickd55345353because i heard there are 800 malware for linux07:00
Blue1no script.  denied.07:00
tmg1|fmlNickd55345353: and almost all of them require you install them07:00
Nickd55345353oh07:01
Nickd55345353really?07:01
keplr_primeMy biggest worry is an entity like NSA/GCHQ discovering a security hole and not telling anyone so they can exploit it for as long as possible.07:01
Nickd55345353no drive by downloads?07:01
meganerdNickd55345353: If you are just browsing the web then most of them don't apply07:01
jj213hello after installing ubuntu 14.04 there is an errer '/boot/grub/x86_64-efi/normal.mod not found' and grub rescue shell07:01
Blue1Nickd55345353: as long as you stay with things in the repository you should not have any issues07:01
meganerdNickd55345353: without java how would they run?07:01
jj213seems to be fairly common problem. whats the best way to solve the problem?07:01
Nickd55345353i have java disable07:01
jj213or if anyone has a decent grasp of the problem could i ask some questions07:01
Nickd55345353disabled*07:01
Beldarjj213, THis a dual boot?07:02
meganerdNickd55345353: where did you get that number from?07:02
Guido1Hello, I would like to brows through the explorer with the keyboard. How can i expend menues etc. with the keyboard?07:02
jj213beldar yes, i have a windows loader in bios and two ubuntu boots07:02
Nickd55345353i read several articles about linux malware07:02
Nickd55345353and in wikipedia though07:03
Beldarjj213, All efi installs?07:03
meganerdNickd55345353: I doubt that any of those 800 are targeted at desktop use.  If you don't run servers you are even better protected07:03
jj213no idea what is efi :z07:03
Nickd55345353they said that one trojan infected 25000 linux servers07:03
jj213but if you mean a boot device for os instead of mbr loader then yes(?)07:03
Nickd55345353and then i started being sad xD07:03
Beldarjj213, You are not making any sense.07:04
meganerdNickd55345353: did you see that last word, servers07:04
jj213yeah probably not i have no clue07:04
Beldar!bootinfo | jj21307:04
ubottujj213: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).07:04
jj213dont really want to study this thing but i guess ccant help it07:04
tmg1|fmlNickd55345353: if you're worried about trojans you can scan occasionally with clamav07:04
Nickd55345353i will do that07:05
Nickd55345353i found out that comodo has a version one linux07:05
jj213beldar what i meant back in the day there were no "os" loaders in bios boot devices but now i see there magically is a windows and ubuntu loaders instead of a hard drive07:05
Nickd55345353i used it on windows07:05
Nickd55345353...07:05
jj213in bios07:05
Beldarjj213, It is not in the bios07:05
jj213yes it is in the bios07:06
meganerdNickd55345353: everything can be exploited.  Stick to the Ubuntu Software Center and don't download random crap, and don't run email attachments.   Behavior not technology is how you will stay safe-ish07:06
jj213or i can see it in bios07:06
Beldar!uefi | jj213 this is what you have07:06
ubottujj213 this is what you have: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI07:06
Nickd55345353i download only from repository07:06
Nickd55345353and trusted sources07:06
Beldarmost likely07:06
jj213uh uh ok07:07
Nickd55345353so i will use clam av rkhunter and firefox07:07
Nickd55345353ty07:07
Nickd55345353bb07:07
tmg1|fmldon't forget to try noscript ;)07:08
jj213beldar thanks07:08
Nickd55345353yes07:08
Nickd55345353i have it alongside with wot and adblock07:08
jj213beldar i was trying to find something like that... uefi efi pzz zz07:09
Beldarjj213, use this tool, do not repiar just run the bootinfo summary and post it at the ubuntu forums, they focus on these issues there, have uefi in the thread header. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair07:10
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jj213ok thanks07:22
CpluspluserHello. How can i group window horizontaly?07:30
Cpluspluserwindows*07:30
CpluspluserI can "stick" windows to the left and right edge, but not to the top and bottom.07:30
CpluspluserI can "stick" windows to the left and right edge, but not to the top and bottom.07:34
gryCpluspluser, you would like to be able to do that?07:37
Cplusplusergry: Yes.07:37
Cplusplusergry: Now I need to do it manually.07:37
gryyou're using gnome right?07:39
gry.07:39
Blue1there's no place like gnome07:39
thatKittenhahahaha lol07:39
Cplusplusergry: Unity I think. The default for Ubuntu 14.0407:39
thatKittenthe one with the dock thing on the left?07:40
CpluspluserthatKitten: Yes.07:40
thatKittenthats Unity then07:40
thatKittenim sure of it07:40
thatKittenanyway, continue07:41
gryif unity runs on top of gnome then https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/39/put-windows/ may be relevant07:41
thatKittenwhat are we, or you, talking about here?07:43
thatKittenhi07:43
gryabout snapping windows to top, not only to left and right07:43
thatKittenok07:43
gryif not, then I'm not sure; a web search returns all sort of weird things about compiz which I thought is not maintained07:44
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petrovwhen i use ECDSA, can i login with putty? thx07:44
thatKittenisnt compiz slmething about effects and junk07:44
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Blue1thatKitten: yes and no07:45
thatKittenoh ok07:45
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thatKittenim not all new to ubuntu and linux i just dont use it much07:46
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whatisthisthatKitten: You like tofu ?07:46
Kaylahello07:46
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Blue1thatKitten: it's what you say -- yes fancy schmancy stuff - but it also acts like a gui07:47
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thatKittenok07:48
Blue1thatKitten: make sense?07:48
thatKittenyep07:48
Blue1thatKitten: you def. don't need it -- I classify it as eye candy.07:49
thatKittenand ive never had tofu, whoever asked07:49
tmg1|fmlpetrov: does putty support it?  seems like that'd be the limiting factor, and not related to ubuntu per se.07:49
thatKitteni know what compiz is, ive seen it in linux mint07:51
grypetrov, nope (https://superuser.com/questions/714704/ssh-client-on-windows-that-supports-ecdsa)07:51
Blue1thatKitten: you can add that to ubuntu - I could get along very nicely with a 4 m/b graphics card -- I really don't do much graphics wise07:52
thatKitten?07:52
petrovgry: thx for the information. what's the best alternative? rsa 4096 bit?07:53
Blue1I don't do gaming or anything that really needs a heavy graphics card07:53
grypetrov, unfortunately I have no idea about the differences07:53
thatKittenBlue1: i have a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 with about 896MB of ram07:54
thatKittenit never gets used to its full potential07:54
thatKittenwhat a waste07:54
Blue1I have what ever came with the mobo -- an ati radeon hd 320007:55
thatKitteni think mine came with the mobo too07:56
thatKittenmines a self build07:56
Blue1thatKitten: ditto07:56
thatKittenif only i knew what ditto meant lol07:56
Blue1ditto means -- me too!07:57
tmg1|fmlthatKitten: doesn't boinc run on gpus these days? :)07:58
thatKittenok07:58
Blue1thatKitten: you down under?07:58
thatKittenyes07:58
thatKittenaustralia07:58
thatKittenvictoria07:58
jj213haha cool i boot the dvd in uefi and reinstall and select remove ubuntu and install and what happens it wipes everything and installs ubuntu07:58
jj213well done07:58
thatKittenmelbourne!07:58
jj213fucking incredible07:58
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Blue1thatKitten: before we get kicked -- private message ok?07:59
Catherine1hello guys..07:59
thatKittensure07:59
Catherine1is gparted a good app?07:59
Catherine1ty07:59
tmg1|fmldefine good07:59
Catherine1well the reputation07:59
thatKittenyep07:59
Catherine1is it effective?07:59
tmg1|fmlit's used by the debian(and ubuntu?) installers I think08:00
Catherine1because i need it asap08:00
thatKittenits used to partition disks08:00
Catherine1yes08:00
tmg1|fmlwhat do you need it to do?08:00
thatKittenits good if you know how to use it08:00
Catherine1i need to install vista08:00
thatKitten^^ isnt it obvious? partition a disk :P08:00
thatKittenoh08:00
thatKittenyeah08:00
Catherine1cause i have some photos08:01
Catherine1;P08:01
tmg1|fmlwhy do you need vista? what does that have to do with photos?08:01
thatKittenjust partition the disk to have about 25gb or more for vista08:01
Catherine1well08:01
thatKittenphotoshop08:01
thatKitteni guess08:01
Catherine1i dont need i am pretty enough08:02
Catherine1;P08:02
Catherine1i am joking08:02
Catherine1yes08:02
thatKittenthen whats the need for vista08:02
Catherine1photoshop08:02
thatKittenok08:02
Catherine1:)08:02
tmg1|fmlCatherine1: have you tried the gimp?08:03
Catherine1yes i heard about it08:03
tmg1|fmlit can do everything photoshop can do08:03
Catherine1it is available for linux too08:03
tmg1|fmlor at least close enough to everything for most users08:03
thatKittenyes08:03
thatKittenits on linux08:03
tmg1|fmlyeah it's available in ubuntu software centre iirc08:03
thatKittenbut its no where near as powerful as photshop in my opinion08:03
Catherine1how will you rate it08:03
Blue1nope but it works08:03
Catherine1out of ten08:04
Catherine1:P08:04
thatKitten308:04
thatKitten:P08:04
Catherine1xD08:04
Blue1I have never use phtoshoppe dunno08:04
tmg1|fmlCatherine1: thatKitten: depends what you want to use it for, and how far up the learning curve you want to travel.08:04
thatKittenif you know photoshop GIMP feels strange08:04
Catherine1well08:05
jj213godddamn how can it wipe the disk with reinstall ubuntu when it's on sda5 or whatever08:05
Catherine1is gimp close enough to photoshop08:05
Catherine1?08:05
thatKittensotra08:05
trijntje_jj213, you use gparted and mind your language08:05
thatKittensorta08:05
tmg1|fmlCatherine1: I've made a living from both photoshop and gimp08:05
Blue1I have heard that. -- I think there is some addons to make gimp more photoshoppy -- but you can run photoshoppe under wine -- so there really is no need for windows08:05
tmg1|fmlCatherine1: it really depends what you're using it for but it's always worth a shot08:05
Catherine1sounds great08:06
thatKittenblue1: turw08:06
Catherine1i always wanted to work with photos stuff08:06
Catherine1:P08:06
thatKittenwhat photoshop version do you have (just curious)08:06
Catherine1an old one08:06
thatKittencs....08:07
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thatKittenCS what?08:07
Catherine1you will laugh08:07
Blue1this might help with questions about running things under wine:  http://appdb.winehq.org/08:07
Catherine17.008:07
thatKittenno laughing here08:08
thatKittenive used 7.008:08
Catherine1it is old indeed08:08
thatKitteni dont think it will work with WINE considering how old it i08:08
Catherine1released in 200208:08
thatKittens08:08
Catherine1but i have managed to get it inexpensively08:08
tmg1|fmlto be fair most of the photoshop work I did was on 5.0 I think08:08
thatKittenjust like Windows XP08:08
thatKitten200308:09
thatKitten200208:09
thatKitteni was born in 200208:09
Catherine1u are 12?08:09
thatKittenthat makes me 1208:09
Catherine1good08:09
somsip!ot | thatKitten08:09
ubottuthatKitten: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:09
Catherine1i am 2508:09
cowbacon____im 12 and what is this?08:09
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thatKittenubuntu is a help channel for ubuntu stuff08:10
somsipthatKitten: it's a support channel. Free free to take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic08:10
thatKittenor PM08:10
Catherine1pm me if u want08:10
thatKittennah :P08:11
Catherine1ok08:11
thatKitteni prefer photoshop over gimp08:13
Catherine1i havent used gimp08:14
Catherine1but i saw reviews on utube08:14
thatKittenOK08:14
angezanettiHey guys, since the upgrade to 14.04 i can't make the backkight working08:14
angezanettiit's an apple_backlight08:14
thatKittenso youre on a mac08:14
angezanettithatKitten: yep08:15
thatKittenim guessing08:15
angezanettian old one -- 201108:15
angezanettiMacbook pro 7.108:15
thatKittenok08:15
billybigriggerhi, can someone tell me a little more about this postfix error...warning: connect get RSA private key from file /etc/ssl/private/xxxx.key disabling TLS support08:16
billybigriggeri can confirm the key exists in /ect/ssl/private08:16
billybigriggerand the name matches08:16
thatKittenangezanetti: downgrade back to 12.04 mayhe08:17
thatKittenangezanetti: at least it supported until 201708:18
tmg1|fmlangezanetti: does ls -l /sys/class/backlight08:19
tmg1|fmlshow anything that isn't broken?08:19
tmg1|fmlie https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight08:20
thatKittenbillybigrigger: explain more pleade08:20
glowxnightly buit08:21
thatKitten?08:21
angezanettitmg1|fml: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 juil.  7 12:05 apple_backlight -> ../../devices/virtual/backlight/apple_backlight08:21
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Chloe7hello08:23
Chloe7can someone tall me what is launchpad ty08:24
thatKitten?08:24
tmg1|fmlangezanetti: have you tried changing the boot options as per the article?  it's got a lot of things to try08:24
Chloe7tell*08:24
thatKittenis it an app your downloaded08:24
thatKittenor is it in ubuntu by default08:24
Chloe7an app08:25
Chloe7basically08:25
thatKittendownloaded?08:25
Chloe7i downloaded stellarium08:25
Chloe7and it said something about launchpad so i pressed enter08:25
Chloe7i uninstalled it though08:26
thatKittenget it back and open it08:26
tmg1|fmlChloe7: https://launchpad.net08:26
Chloe7thx08:26
tmg1|fmlit's pretty self explanatory on that page08:26
tmg1|fmlbut tl; dr it's where you report bugs and do the dirty work of working with ubuntu on the tester, sometimes user and developer level08:27
thatKittenso maybe you got a beta of stellarium?08:29
Chloe7yes08:29
Chloe7maybe08:30
Chloe7so08:30
Chloe7one more thing08:30
Chloe7i am thinking of an image viewer08:30
thatKitten...08:30
tmg1|fmlsince I'm here anyway, is there a better way to tell fsck to 'not' make changes then typing 'n' 100,000 times?08:30
Chloe7is gthumb good?08:30
thatKittenubunt comes with Shotwell08:30
gryristretto? gthumb? eye of gnome? of course it is08:30
Chloe7i am new to ubuntu08:31
Chloe7a mint user08:31
Chloe7so i am more familiar08:31
Chloe7with it08:31
tmg1|fmlChloe7: give it a try :)08:31
thatKittenoh :P08:31
Chloe7ok08:31
blarghlarghlHi all. Any MaaS people here? I'm having trouble with booting once everything is set up. It boots and finds the pxe image, but then I start seeing the error 'hostname maas-enlist [repeated a few times] IP-Config: no response after 2 secs - giving up'. This keeps going until it boots into busybox because it has no root.08:31
windowsxpam new to ubuntu08:31
thatKitteneverythinf that work with mint works with ubuntu08:31
Chloe7good^^08:32
blarghlarghlMy set-up is a little unorthodox because I have a DHCP server running on my router, and the MaaS is running on a separate machine on the network. I've configured dnsmasq on the router to find the MaaS machine for pxe-boot, but that's about it. I don't know how to get it to find the machine after pxe boot.08:32
thatKittenits because Mint is based on ubuntu08:32
grywindowsxp, hi.08:32
cristian_cHi08:33
gryChloe7, cristian_c, hi.08:33
windowsxphi gry08:33
cristian_cI've installed lampp with tasksel08:33
Chloe7hello08:33
Chloe7gry08:33
cristian_cbut I can't start it from command line08:33
thatKittenhello08:34
cristian_cthere are no 'lampp' directories in /opt08:34
cristian_cAny ideas?08:34
windowsxpso anyone have the solution for a screen flickering problem at the bootup, am using ubuntu 1408:34
Chloe7what is auto-call-prog.to?08:34
thatKittenisnt it just LAMP not LAMPP08:34
windowsxpam new to linux08:35
cristian_csudo /opt/lampp/lampp start08:35
grywindowsxp, how and when does it flicker?08:35
thatKittenwindowsxp, well congrats on moving to ubunu08:35
windowsxpat the time of bootin' up08:35
thatKittenubunu08:35
windowsxpthank you08:36
thatKittenubuntu08:36
thatKittenubuntu is a great choice :P esp since XP is not getting anymore updates08:36
cristian_cI don't know how to solve08:37
windowsxpyes i recently found that ubuntu is more powerful in doin' task08:37
windowsxpif anyone can help me assistin' in solvin' my bootscreen bootup08:38
thatKittenas in?08:39
tmg1|fmlwindowsxp: ?08:39
windowsxpyes xp here08:39
thatKittenwhat happens when u boot up08:39
tmg1|fmlwindowsxp: what do you mean 'bootscreen bootup'08:39
windowsxpam havin' a problem which bootin' up my ubuntu 14.04lts08:40
thatKittenwht problems08:40
windowsxpblack screen with prompt pops up while bootin'08:40
thatKittenwhat they say08:40
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ghdgdWHICH IS THE MOST SECURE LINUX DISTRO/08:41
ghdgd?08:41
windowsxpi see some command lines in the black screen and keeps on flickerin'08:41
Beldarghdgd, This is ubuntu support and that is a subjective matter.08:42
Beldar!nomodeset | windowsxp08:42
ubottuwindowsxp: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter08:42
windowsxpthank you ubottu, i shall try your link08:43
thatKittenwindowsxp: dont thank ubottu , its a bot08:48
windowsxpthatkitten: am new to this site08:48
thatKittenok08:49
thatKittensorry08:49
CpluspluserIs there Open Document editor for Android?08:54
thatKitten?08:55
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blarghlarghlHi all. Any MaaS people here? I'm having trouble with booting once everything is set up. It boots and finds the pxe image, but then I start seeing the error 'hostname maas-enlist [repeated a few times] IP-Config: no response after 2 secs - giving up'. This keeps going until it boots into busybox because it has no root.08:55
blarghlarghlMy set-up is a little unorthodox because I have a DHCP server running on my router, and the MaaS is running on a separate machine on the network. I've configured dnsmasq on the router to find the MaaS machine for pxe-boot, but that's about it. I don't know how to get it to find the machine after pxe boot.08:55
thatKittendont think so08:55
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tmg1|fmlyeah.  looks like if fsck tries to read past the edge of block 41422480 it gets a short read, so the filesystem has got to be as big as the original08:56
hakan_Hello08:59
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function9hi09:00
function9bbl09:00
thatKittenhello09:00
tortibWhat is the stable kernel for ubuntu-server ?09:01
tortibI'm currently running 3.13.0 and i see that my pkg manager held back linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic.  Any idea why it would do that?09:01
CpluspluserWill Ubuntu Touch have Open Document editor?09:01
hakan_hey ops  how often should I perform a system update ? sudo....09:01
tmg1|fmltortib: which pkg manager?09:09
angezanettitmg1|fml: not yet, i'm digging stuff in the link you gave me, gotta try some stuff :)09:14
demon^eyeafter installing chromium i see gibrish in the url search line when switching between languages .... anyone ?09:17
kittykittyim getting login attempts from my ISP from their domain on my pop3d server... any ideas why?09:17
xauthkittykitty: that sounds strange. How do you know it's from your ISP?09:18
kittykittythe log file :P09:19
xauthkittykitty: And what did the log file say?09:19
kittykittyits all from stuff likt "admin@sky.com" and "dave@sky.com" lol09:19
kittykittyone sec, pastebining it09:19
kittykittyhttp://pastebin.com/A0zjK1xp09:20
kittykittyxauth, i emailed admin@sky.com from that server this morning with the log attached and hopefully they actually get it, i hope i didnt cause any problems x.x09:21
xauthkittykitty: chase 220.225.17.241, not the admin@sky.com. I suspect admin@sky.com is not reliable.09:22
kittykittyi got a 550 rejection from mailing them anyway09:23
kittykitty220.225.17.241 is a level 15 sky server x.x09:23
xauthkittykitty: whois points to "Reliance Communication Ltd". Is that your ISP?09:25
kittykittynah, its sky lol09:25
kittykittybut it also points to a login page for level 15 access which is weird, looks like their main server09:26
xauthkittykitty: what does it mean to "point to a login page?"09:27
kittykittyif you open the address in a browser its just like their router login pages09:27
xauthkittykitty: wait... you get strange connections from an IP address, and you put it into your browser? Doesn't strike me as a safe procedure.09:28
kittykittyxauth, yea, im stupid. Just wondering if i should contact them or whatever09:29
xauthkittykitty: Use the whois databases to find who owns 220.225.17.241, find their abuse contact, and report there.09:32
xauthkittykitty: It's probably some bot infected computer scanning for easy passwords.09:32
kittykittylol ok09:32
kittykittyindia, seems legit for the UK to be stationed there09:33
ticktoeHello people. I just installed 'backbox' in my system.I set a password during the installation.After logging in when I want the super user mode,it is returning authentication failed.09:34
xauthDoesn't matter. They have no reason connecting to your pop server, so it's almost certainly a password scan.09:34
ticktoeIs there any default root password ?09:34
bazhangno09:35
bazhanguse sudo ticktoe09:35
xauthkittykitty: which means 220.225.17.241 is probably infected, which means they should (ought to) be happy to hear about it.09:35
kittykittyxauth, they probably wont be, cant find a suitable address to contact them on lol09:36
kittykittythe uk doesnt like 'hackers'09:36
kittykittytheyd probably think listening on a port is 'hacking' T_T09:36
ticktoebazhang, that's what I do. Say if I want to install a package,I am doing sudo apt-get install package.09:36
CpluspluserWill Ubuntu Touch have Open Document editor?09:37
xauthkittykitty: your UK ISP is not involved in this at all.09:37
ticktoebazhang, I also use mint. In that if I give su and after that,it won't ask for password.But here it asks for password everytime/09:37
kittykittywho do i contact then? They say theyre sky when they send emails to it...09:38
ticktoebazhang, is there any other way to do this?09:38
xauthkittykitty: whois is giving me a perfect abuse address.09:38
kittykittywhat address would this be?09:38
kittykittyantiabuse.support@relianceada.com ?09:39
xauthGo here: https://www.apnic.net/apnic-info/whois_search09:39
peterpacz1Macbook Pro Question - How do I install Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on a late 2013 Macbook Pro Retina, 15 inch with intel processor?09:39
xauthkittykitty: voila.09:39
kittykittylol ok09:39
peterpacz1Current operating system is OS X 10.9.2 with build version 12C64.09:40
kittykittythanks xauth !09:40
xauthThen again, don't get your hopes up. Usually you get an autoresponse and nothing more. Sometimes the hacking doesn't come back.09:40
kittykittyok09:40
kittykittyill keep an eye on it09:40
kittykittyit just looked like they were having problems from my log info09:41
kittykittyis it possible that their real target was my ISP?09:41
Fuzzywhirlpool~09:41
xauthkittykitty: Could be. You never know.09:41
kittykittydoes that mean that i need to let them know too?09:41
xauthkittykitty: they'd be scanning your ISP's addresses for their pop servers.09:41
kittykittyok09:42
peterpacz1Hello?09:42
sh4trhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro09:42
peterpacz1Thanks, sh4tr.09:42
xauthkittykitty: Your ISP probably sees these scans in their logs as well, at their real POP servers. They should be on it themselves.09:42
kittykittyok09:43
xauthkittykitty: Scans like this are really omnipresent background noise on the internet.09:43
kittykittyYea, ive had a few, was just wondering because it looked like if fucked up their pop3 internal network or something09:43
loahow do you think is it ok to install ubuntu 12.04 on server?09:44
loaor it is old?09:44
kittykittyloa ive still got mine on 12.0409:44
loai need fileserver with samba and gateway.09:44
kittykittybut if youre just installing now, go for latest LTS09:44
loai will use shorewall for it.09:44
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loakittykitty, i found problem with raid in 14.0409:44
kittykittyloa, then use 12.04 idk :P09:45
loathere no bootdegraded option now09:45
loa12.04 do it very well.09:45
kittykittywell, youre screwed if you need to upgrade09:45
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kittykittyffs, sky is so bad that their complaints and support chat is always busy lol09:47
xauthAs long as they pass your data and all your data...09:48
kittykittyxauth, hmm?09:50
kittykittyxauth what about data?09:50
xauthkittykitty: What your ISP should do: pass your data in and out.09:50
kittykittyxauth, yep, that happens, and my pop3 is getting through too so thats all good09:50
wolf__t09:54
CpluspluserHello. Which mobile OS fully does (or will) support open documents?10:00
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wolf__which is not?10:01
WXZCpluspluser: you mean open office documents?10:04
CpluspluserWXZ: open document standard10:04
annihilator009yo10:07
FuzzywhirlpoolI guess txt files are the open document standard. Every os can view it.10:07
annihilator009how do i encrypt a file ?10:08
FuzzywhirlpoolThe odf files are for desktops, not for mobile.10:08
demon^eyei need gadget for cpu usage anyone?10:08
FuzzywhirlpoolTo encrypt a text file, you must generate a gpg key for yourself.10:09
annihilator009I did Fuzzywhirlpool10:09
annihilator009but when i encrypt a file it says Permission denied10:09
annihilator009Help?10:09
Fuzzywhirlpoolgpg -r yourname@mail -a --encrypt filename10:09
annihilator009i use nautilis Fuzzywhirlpool10:10
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annihilator009how do i encrypt a file ?10:11
FuzzywhirlpoolIf you want a secure encryption, you have to generate a gpg key.10:11
annihilator009i did dude10:11
annihilator009but when i encrypt a file it says Permission denied10:11
Fuzzywhirlpoolissue `gpg --genkey`10:11
annihilator009i did10:11
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Fuzzywhirlpoolwhat is permission mode of your .gnupg directory?10:12
annihilator009how to find that Fuzzywhirlpool ?10:12
balo_k10:13
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Fuzzywhirlpoolissue `ls -la ~ | grep gnupg`10:21
MagicSpudhello how could I get rid of two wine applications? a game and a design program I long ago tried to install unsuccessfully  but now I notice they are using 16 Gb of my HDD?10:27
gener1cis it safe to remove all ethernet drivers if i want to disable all networking support ?10:27
gener1cis there a better way to go about it?10:27
daftykinsMagicSpud: they would likely be in your WINE C: directory, you could delete them from there if that's where they are.10:28
MagicSpudThey are not listed on the wine uninstaller and no shortcuts on wine menu either10:28
daftykinsgener1c: what's the task? why do you want no networking?10:28
gener1ci want it to be a kiosk10:28
gener1cand i want networking off forever and ever10:29
gener1cno dhcp no static no nothing10:29
MagicSpuddaftykins: simply deleting them?10:29
daftykinsMagicSpud: sure10:29
varunendragener1c, if by "removing drivers" you mean blacklisting them (not really moving/deleting/renaming them), then it is perfectly safe as far as I know.10:30
trijntjegener1c: is it possible to remove the network card? Thats the easiest way to disable it I can think of10:30
gener1cintegrated im afraid10:30
daftykinsgener1c: or if it's onboard, disable in BIOS - assuming Linux takes notice of that? :D10:30
varunendragener1c, but a better way is to simply tell the Network Manager "NOT to connect automatically".10:30
gener1ccant disable10:30
gener1ctried to do it10:30
gener1cthis bios even after an update10:30
gener1chas the option enabled as a label10:31
gener1cso i cant change it10:31
gener1cfor some reason its grey10:31
gener1c"greyed out"10:31
gener1cdaftykins: how will i do that?10:31
gener1ci already trimmed down the /etc/newtwork/interfaces10:32
billybigriggerholy fsckin hell10:32
billybigrigger4:30am still no mail server10:32
billybigrigger:S10:32
daftykinsbillybigrigger: none of that language and support questions only thanks10:33
gener1csudo update-rc.d remove network-manager ?10:33
billybigriggerwell now i remember why i left ubuntu10:33
billybigriggeryour docs are shit10:33
Cpluspluser I saved OpenOfficeXML on Android and wanted to open it in LibreOffice on Ubuntu, and it displays wrong.10:42
loawho can exmplain me one thing about software raid.10:46
loafor example i have situation and my system don't boot up.10:47
loaand looks like only one part of raid 1 working.10:47
loahow i can recover from it?10:47
loaI can not get it. I installed ubuntu 12.04 and tried bootdegraded=true but looks like system can recover only when first disk working.10:48
loaif i tried to used second one it don't work.10:49
gutzg151510:50
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demon^eyei need gadget for cpu usage anyone?10:56
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octalmagedemon^eye: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/network-memory-and-cpu-usage-indicator.html#more11:04
Jeanette21 Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.ly/1rihPY011:06
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makarahi. In tmux man page it says M-1 rearranges layout. I can'tget it to do that11:20
makarai'm guessing M is the alt key11:20
makaranone of the M keys work. When M-1, it outputs (alt:1), I press enter, and nothing11:22
bevedingCan we just ask all of our Ubuntu questions here?11:48
trijntjebeveding: yep11:49
bevedingAnyone have experience with Plex on Ubuntu?11:49
daftykinsyou need to ask the actual question11:49
bevedingI'm trying to get the Plex Media Server to run WITHOUT having a browser window open and not relient on the browser being open or closed11:50
daftykinshave you tried asking them?11:50
bevedingOn Windows it run in the Notifications Area and I have other Ubuntu applications that run in the Notification area.. is there a way to do this with Plex11:50
bevedingWell I was just wondering around and noticed this channel so I thought I might ak. If no one knows no biggie11:51
daftykinsPlex is a third party program so there's no sense asking the OS support really11:51
bevedingCouldn't hurt to try right?11:51
daftykinsthey probably have a channel, have a look11:51
daftykinsnot unless i sharpen the knives again, i suppose ;)11:52
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bevedingThanks for the help! I found the plex channel11:53
daftykinsexcellent11:53
function9another happy customer :)11:54
* daftykins blows the end of the gun and holsters it11:54
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blaaaI have a computer with two nics obtaining addresses for one subnet through dhcp12:09
blaaai can ping to both ips, but i can only ping from one of the ips12:09
hobsanyone know a good video format converter for ubuntu.i want to convert .mp4's to avi.  something equivalent to the window software called 'format factory'.12:12
hobsjust on a sidenote,i thing ubuntu 14.04 is smashing.12:13
hobsthink12:13
daftykinshobs: i think ubuntu comes with avconv if that was its name12:14
pressure679ffmpeg12:14
hobswiped my laptop of windows 8.1 (hate it).didnt even bother dual booting.12:14
daftykinsblaaa: both are connected to the same network? 0o12:15
blaaadaftykins: yes...12:15
daftykinsblaaa: why?12:15
hobsthanks guys.will give those a try.12:15
dns53hobs ffmpeg is the command line tool most often used, there are a few wrappers around it that may be more user friendly12:16
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MonkeyDusthobs  winff is a nice gui for ffmpeg12:17
blaaadaftykins: one nic is supposed to end up in another subnet, separated from the subnet of the other nic. on subnet should be for guests, providing a different set of services than on the 'home' subnet12:17
hobs@dns53 if its what i used on my last experience of ubuntu i will give that option a miss.the end product of the converted video was alway crap12:17
blaaaunfortunately I cannot get the subnets set up in my router (yet), so I just wanted to set up the separation on the server to try thongs out12:17
blaaathongs=things :X12:18
daftykinsblaaa: until it's configured correctly there's not much point trying to second guess supposed issues12:18
blaaadaftykins: hmm, probably true.12:19
blaaadaftykins: would you expect no issues when the nics are on separated subnets?12:19
daftykinswell i'm a bit vague about what you were trying to do with your pings12:19
wericI got a new Samsung printer. I am running Ubuntu 14.04 and I want to install drivers for it. What is the difference between the drivers available for Linux on the Samsung site vs the drivers available here http://www.bchemnet.com/suldr/ ?12:19
wericPlease help12:20
daftykinsweric: the manufacturer can be trusted, who knows what that site is12:20
daftykinsweric: are you sure it doesn't just work when plugged in?12:20
MonkeyDustweric  i guess you best ask that question on their own forum, on that same site12:22
wericdaftykins: just works ? Should I get a message or notificatio or something??12:22
daftykinsweric: i have no idea12:22
daftykinsbut i'd certainly check for printers...12:22
xteejxanyone know how to add a debian patch to and debuild a package using bazaar to test the patch in ubuntu?12:28
SupaYoshiwhats a cheap ssl cert. for webshops? :)12:31
xteejxam I on the wrong server or something, this NEVER used to be this quiet!!12:33
pai wonder the same12:33
pabtw is there really no way to backup and restore gnome3 panel settings?12:34
pathere used t be12:34
xteejxthis is freenode isnt it?12:34
pait is12:34
daftykinskeep it on topic thanks12:34
padaftykins, it's on topic12:34
xteejxon topic? We're talking about ubuntu, what topic would you like?! Jeez...12:34
pait's on 14.0412:35
paor you mean now ubuntu offers support only for unity?12:35
daftykinsarguing it will only make it worse for you12:35
daftykinsno, there are the other desktop derivatives too - LXDE, XFCE, KDE...12:36
xteejxI'd have thought there's little support for shell tbh but iirc there are the gnome3 packages etc12:36
daftykinswhatever is in the official repos is supported12:36
padaftykins, what are you talking about? arguing what? we are talking about ubuntu12:36
daftykinsdrop it, pa.12:36
pagnome-flashback, in the specific12:37
pajesus, even bullies here12:37
xteejxdrop what? you're being an a-hole for no reason, we're in the ubuntu channel talking about ubuntu12:37
xteejxso go back to your cave12:37
daftykinsno you were ranting about what network it is :P12:37
xteejxPici: Can you do something about daftykins please?12:37
daftykinsnow grow up and move on.12:37
xteejxCan we keep it on topic please12:38
xteejxthanks daftykins12:38
xteejxso yeah pa, gnome312:38
xteejxthere should be indirect support for it, I mean canonical might not support it but you can bet the community will12:39
daftykinsas i just said, anything in official repos is supported - PPAs are not12:39
xteejxso are you telling us that gnome3 is NOT in the official repos or what?12:39
persoping12:40
daftykinsi have no idea if it is or not :)12:40
xteejxdaftykins, then your argument is moot and you have given no helpful information whatsoever12:40
pai tried to grep in my home, it seems that the only data might be in the dconf database12:40
xteejxpa, we're not all like this12:40
xteejxpa, what is it exactly you're trying to do?12:41
harmhey12:41
daftykinswhat i said is not an argument, it is factual policy12:41
pai just configured the desktop in gnome-flashback12:41
eerHI12:41
rihbynesuccessfully installed i3 window mangager on ubuntu. but how do I uninstall unity and keep the global menu bar12:41
pawhat i want now is to back it up12:41
paso that i can restore it quickly12:41
xteejxeverything you need to backup should be dconf and ~.local/share/gnome-shell iirc12:42
harmi want to install ubunt 12.04 on my desktop. I tried it before but i need to install wifi drives to have any chance of success.. the instructions for the adoptor tell me to download build essentials. How can i download package, with all dependencies, to a USB stick from windows?12:42
pagoogling i find only solutions for gnome212:42
paxteejx, no such dir in 14.012:42
pajust checked12:42
daftykinsharm: can't you just temporarily cable yourself in, if the system has wired networking?12:43
eerHow can I remove old application links from the KDE menu? I did sudo apt-get purge amule but the link in the start menu remains.12:43
xteejxdamn why do things keep moving :(12:43
payeah :(12:43
harmdaftykins: no wires..12:43
pathings keep moving and tools keep changing12:43
xteejxpa, stay on topic haha12:43
pa:)12:43
paanyway, i think what i want might be inside .config/dconf/user12:44
daftykinsharm: make sure you install with the very latest media and that should give you better support - 12.04.4 is latest, although why not pick 14.04 now?12:44
ravigehlotSomething really weird is happening. When I boot my computer, mid way through the bottom process, the screen switches from high resolution on the console to low resolution. It run xwindows on the background without me even starting it and it then tells me that I have low resolution. How do I fix that?12:44
pabut i don't know how to pull out only what i need12:44
ravigehlotbottom = boot12:44
blarghlarghlDoes anyone have a partman recipe for LVM + RAID 6 that they can share? I'm not getting much of anything working...12:45
xteejxpa, hmm...12:45
harmdaftykins: 12.04 is officially supported by my wifi dongle... and 12.04 is LTS and i dont see advantages of 14.04? First i want a working system12:45
etronikhi guys... newly built PC , new install of 14.04 - sound is coming out with lots of interference - any ideas ? TIA12:45
xteejxpa, I mean the simple solution would be to back it all up but specifics now its all changed, pass sorry dude12:45
xteejxetronik, not too loud is it?12:45
daftykinsharm: yes they're both LTS.12:45
pai can at least verify it by renaming it and see if i lose the settings12:46
pamoment12:46
etronikxteejx, don't think so... output volume is at 50%12:46
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harmdaftykins: alright, so back to the question, how can you download build essentials + all dependencies?12:46
xteejxetronik, try lowering it and turning the speakers up, failing that it could be a buffer or driver issue12:46
etronikxteejx, I have Analog Output - is that right ?12:46
xteejxharm, apt-get install build-essentials?12:46
xteejxetronik, unless you're connected vi a digital output, yes :)12:47
harmxteejx: sorry i meant to a USb stuck from windows.. so i can install the packages on my ubuntu12:47
harmBRB12:47
payes12:47
etronikxteejx, lower volume & turn up speakers - is the same - now I notice that sound is coming out in spurts...12:47
pai was right12:47
pawell12:47
pai guess i'll back up the whole db then12:48
xteejxharm, there was a thing called apttocd if it's still around?12:48
xteejxpa, ahh :)12:48
paand wish gnome guys to go dig in some cave12:48
xteejxetronik, see if theres any kind of buffer options or the like, sounds like it's getting 'stuck'12:48
xteejxpa, lol12:48
etronikxteejx, buffer options ? where do I check those?12:49
xteejxetronik, It was a suggestion, I have no idea lol12:49
etronikok, checking https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems12:49
xteejxetronik, I was just looking for that page as it happens :)12:50
n1md4_hi. wanting to rip my dvd collection, but many of the discs are only ripping tiny fines?12:50
xteejxn1md4_, got libdvdcss etc installed?12:50
n1md4_yeap12:50
n1md4_using libdvdread4/install-css.sh12:51
xteejxn1md4_, what is happening instead, i.e. any particular filetype being ripped and others not, what software you using, etc?12:51
n1md4_using handbrake12:51
n1md4_it doesn't give errors, but the filesizes are really too small12:51
xteejxhow small?12:52
n1md4_eg general movie ~1G.  a failed rip is as small as  103K12:52
xteejxwhoa ok....12:53
n1md4_another 5.4M and other 1.7M12:53
daftykinssounds like Sony's ARCCoS protection12:53
xteejxdo you have the required encoders for the preset you want to use, also copyright maybe?12:53
xteejxsnap12:53
n1md4_not sure what encoders i might need12:54
xteejxI'm assuming dependencies for that stuff are resolved and they get installed but not always....as daftykins says it could be a copyright protection on the disc. What films you trying to rip outta interest?12:55
tawrHi guys :) Hope you're having a good morning so far!12:55
xteejxtawr, *afternoon :p12:55
daftykinsi think we might be in a bit of a grey area as to whether we can really assist with such tasks anyway12:55
n1md4_well, deadly top 10 (deadly 60 series)12:56
harmxteejx: does apttocd work on windows?12:56
xteejxwe as in Canonical because I represent myself...if the guy own the discs he has a legal right everywhere to make a backup12:56
xteejxharm, pass12:56
daftykinsnah nobody here is official, this is volunteer run - but it's 'we' as in channel policy12:56
daftykinsand network policy12:57
tawrI'm about to install ubuntu onto my laptop, just finished cleaning up partitions and making space. What is a good amount of space for a full install of ubuntu, and the current recommended partitioning scheme?12:57
daftykinswell, we could debate legality 'til we're blue in the face but i don't really fancy touching that one12:57
n1md4_daftykins: should be okay :) http://torrentfreak.com/uk-backpedals-plan-legalize-mp3-dvd-copying-140710/12:57
tawrI haven't touched linux in almost a decade -12:57
daftykinsn1md4_: 'UK' doesn't really affect the world12:57
n1md4_;) damn - that was my best shot12:57
n1md4_no worries.12:57
n1md4_I'll keep searching12:58
xteejxdaftykins, I'm well within my rights to advise a fellow FOSS user on how to use software. What he chooses to do with it is up to him. We cannot and should not penalise everyone because *some* make illegal backups (i.e. to distribute), to classify all Ubuntu users in such manner is both wrong and slanderous12:58
daftykinsi think you're getting a bit too serious about this one.12:58
xteejxnahhhh net neutrality is the killer :p12:58
daftykinstawr: totally depends on what data you might keep, in the form of media - but a base install would be happy with 3GB of space, so anything above that will be free for you to install more software12:59
xteejxalso depends how you partition, best to go with the default though12:59
daftykinstawr: i personally still prefer to create a separate /home partition in addition to the root ( / ) partition to make backups / reinstalls easier, all of which would be EXT413:00
daftykinsnah default does a single, bit nasty to deal with in future13:00
xteejxdepends on use case ;)13:00
daftykinsthat goes without saying.13:00
tawrdaftykins - thanks for your input. I'm old school (think 2.0.36) is where I left off13:00
daftykinsxteejx: hope he stays away ¬_¬13:00
daftykinsoops, nick highlight13:01
tawrI'm used to /, /home, /usr, and swap installs13:01
daftykinsah i've never done /usr separate13:01
ikoniatawr: you can partition it however you feel best meets your needs13:01
tawri think ill go ahead and give it say 100gB with /, /home, swap systems13:02
tawrand i can always make them larger in the future13:02
tawrSorry, I meant to say 200gb13:03
robin666hello, i'm installing the software for my passport reader13:03
tawrShould I do / as 100gb and /home at 100gb? or what would you do with 200gb?13:03
robin666but it requires libfontconfig1 >= 2.9.013:03
ikoniatawr: I wouldn't waste 100gb on /13:04
tawrikonia - 50/150? any input is greatly appreciated. i usually install a bunch of stuff so i was giving myself some headroom13:04
tawrand is the rule still 1:1 ram to swap?13:05
HaaPutmy headphone pin got stuck inside audio jack is there a way to play sound through laptop inbuilt speakers  with still stuck pin inside?13:05
ikoniatawr: I'd be surprised if / needed to be bigger than 10GB for pretty much anyone13:05
ikoniatawr: no13:05
tawrHaaPut - should be an option to. the switching of outputs is done in software13:05
Daekdroomtawr, I currently have 46GiB for / and ~167GB for /home and I only have 8GB occupied in /. And I have a lot there.13:05
skilzCan Wayland be used in place of xorg?13:05
ikoniaskilz: it's not prouction ready yet13:06
ikoniaskilz: hence why it's not in the distro13:06
tawrDaekdroom - thanks. I guess I'll do 25gb for / to be on the safe side and the rest for /home. What is the rule for swap currently?13:06
skilzok13:06
ikoniatawr: apply common sense to your needs is the rule13:07
emxi have small virtual console attached with USB. what i want is to use it (only) as main console. also i have a HD display which i want to use for gui. is there a way to set up the console and the display such that my device boots gui (and the keyboard inputs go there) and switch to console with alt+f1 such that keyboard inputs go to the main console?13:07
emx(do you understand what i want? :P)13:07
Daekdroomtawr, if you need hibernation, you actually need a little more than your RAM amount, but I don't know what the formula is for that.13:07
ikoniatawr: 25B is a very large /, if you feel you need that do it, however again, I'd be very surprised if it ever got near to 10GB13:07
tawrI have no problem allocating - I'm very interested in getting back into the 'groove'. I'll do 1.5-2.0 for swap to be on the safe side13:08
ikonia1.5 what ?13:08
tawr(I actually have 275gb free on that drive, plus another 200gb free on another partition for windows)13:08
tawrikonia, sorry ratio of ram to swap. i.e. 16gb ram x 1.5 = 24gb swap13:08
ikoniawhy ?13:08
HaaPutmy headphone pin got stuck inside audio jack is there a way to play sound through laptop inbuilt speakers  with still stuck pin inside?13:08
ikoniawhy would you do 1.5 or 2x ram ?13:08
ikoniatawr: if your machine is using 2x ram in swap, your machine is already dead13:09
ikoniaso why make that situation ?13:09
ikoniayou appear to be just picking random numbers rather than applying thought13:09
Daekdroomtawr, if you don't need hibernation, I wouldn't even do that much swap, specially considering how much RAM you have in the first place.13:09
HaaPuttawr: can't find where to do it13:09
tawrI do need hibernation (laptop)13:10
tawrHaaPut - i answered bud13:11
ph88i cant access the windows network from nautilus, what can i do ?13:12
ph88Unable to access location: Failed to retrieve share list from server: No such file or directory13:13
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emxwhere do i set up a new console? /etc/default/console-setup?13:20
Draxeliswhere is ubuntu alternative file to hosts file in windows where you can do 127.0.0.1  google.com?13:27
peyamHi guys, I got a SSD and googled how to optimize it on my ubuntu distro. Howveer I got different searching results and dont know which one is the optimal . Anybody knos a good website with reliable methods?13:30
Artemis3Draxelis, /etc/hosts13:31
peyamhere are some hints. but the option about Noatime and trim differs from other sources I found13:31
DraxelisArtemis3,  thank you13:32
Artemis3peyam, noatime i think should always be used everywhere :3 very few programs care about the last time you read a file...13:32
peyamArtemis3, what do you thing about this link? https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd13:33
tawrquick question again guys13:33
tawrhow do I 'break' a windows partition from booting? my laptop came with a hdd with win8, I installed an SSD and used the recovery software to install windows on the ssd13:33
tawrbut my computer freaks out now and again and boots the wrong windows drive (hdd instead of ssd) and they are both listed exactly the same in the bios so it takes 30 minutes of playing around to get back to the right hdd13:34
tawrand i'm sure that's going to cause problems with the ubuntu install13:34
blarghlarghlin fdisk, disable the bootable flag for that partition.13:34
liuqyiwhat is xchat13:35
Artemis3peyam, looks good, deadline is for performance. Some people don't care, but reducing writes is good imo. So no swap, tmpfs for /tmp /var/tmp, noatime etc.13:35
cfhowlettliuqyi IRC chat client13:35
cfhowlett!cn | liuqyi13:35
ubottuliuqyi: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw13:35
tfh_I used to be able to select text, and then similutaneously click left and right buttons on my pad to paste it, this doesn't work anymore, any ideas? that was very handy when copy / pasting long command lines to the console in ubuntu. please help13:35
cfhowlett!kyin | liuqyi13:35
peyamArtemis3, the paraghorph about trim? is it good too?13:36
Artemis3peyam, finally, leave some unpartitioned space, in the SSD.13:36
tfh_!kyin | abo13:36
cfhowlett!kylin | liuqyi13:36
ubottuliuqyi: Ubuntu Kylin is a variant of Ubuntu that focuses on Chinese users. It is a formal part of Ubuntu. For more information, see http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntukylin13:36
MarcoPauhi, I have a huge /usr/src/mesa/ directory. can I delete the whole thing?13:36
ice9ubuntu is getting slower in startup and during working on it, there is noticeable difference between a fresh installation and now, how to investigate this?13:40
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liuqyithanks13:41
neriumHave anyone here heard about a software called Linux_time_y_2?13:42
neriumMy server has been "infected" with this file and is doing a ton of DNS requests against a server13:42
cfhowlettnerium #ubuntu-server and ##linux    might have insight13:42
neriumcfhowlett: Aha, thanks!13:43
gcl5cphow do associate fbreader to epub files "No default application found for the MIME type application/epub+zip"13:44
gcl5cpxdg-mime default fbreader.desktop application/epub+zip13:46
gcl5cpxdg-mime default fbreader.desktop application/epub13:46
gcl5cpwithout successful13:47
liuqyigood night13:54
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v_SullyHello everyone, can you tell me where I can locate the wall paper folder?14:02
v_Sullywallpater*14:03
v_Sullywallpaper**14:03
cfhowlettv_Sully do a file search for "background" or "wallpaper"14:03
MonkeyDustv_Sully  /usr/share/backgrounds/14:04
v_Sullyty both14:05
harryfordciao14:08
harryford!list14:08
ubottuharryford: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:08
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gcl5cphow do associate fbreader to epub files? "No default application found for the MIME type application/epub+zip"14:12
gcl5cpxdg-mime default fbreader.desktop application/epub+zip14:12
gcl5cpxdg-mime default fbreader.desktop application/epub14:12
gcl5cpwithout successful14:12
trijntjegcl5cp: try right-clicking an epub -> properties -> open with14:12
gcl5cpubuntu 12.04. right-clicking an epub -> properties -> open with It's no working, do nothing14:13
Aliedric_Hi ! There is anyone to help me ? I try to set EFI dual boot with Win 8 and Ubuntu 1414:13
cfhowlett!efi14:13
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI14:13
Aliedric_I try the tutorial but when my PC boot i can't choose Ubuntu !14:14
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gcl5cptrijntje: "right-clicking an epub -> properties -> open with" do nothing14:16
sporadic_1bzflag14:17
revolusionhi14:18
hmm6ubuntu is awesome!14:18
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ice9unity crashes when connecting external monitor to the laptop14:23
pressure679ice9: which version of ubuntu do you use? Ain't a problem on 12.0414:25
ice9pressure679: it's 14.0414:26
MonkeyDust_oops14:31
philinuxice9;~  what about connected at bootup? anything in the xorg logs?14:32
ice9philinux: it works on bootup14:34
ice9philinux: but if I disconnected it after it boots it will crash again14:34
philinuxice9;~ anything in logs14:35
ice9philinux: I don't see something interesting in the logs14:36
philinuxice9;~ what vidoe card are you running14:36
ice9philinux: Intel HD 4000,  but it was working fine in the previous version of ubuntu14:36
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priveebonjour14:37
cfhowlett!fr|privee14:37
ubottuprivee: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.14:37
philinuxice9;~ when unity crashes what exactly happens14:37
priveej'ai un souci avec ma webcam hp 2300 sous ubuntu 14.0414:37
ice9philinux: the screen flickers a lot and there are huge artifacts14:38
priveej'ai fais gstreamer-properties14:38
priveeil ouvre "sélecteur de systèmes multimédia" et dans vidéo/entrée par défaut /greffon  (vidéo pour linux 2 (v4l2))/ périphérique (hp webcam hd 2300)/ pipeline (v4l2src device="/dev/video0"14:38
cfhowlettprivee vous ne parlez pas francais14:38
philinuxice9;~ can you get a terminal with ctrl alt t when it crashes14:39
MonkeyDustprivee  type /j #ubuntu-fr14:39
ice9philinux: yeah then I kill X so it I can login again14:39
priveebien sure que je parle français pourquoi??14:39
philinuxice9;~  instead try use setsid unity14:39
cfhowlett!fr | privee14:40
ubottuprivee: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.14:40
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ice9philinux: how?14:40
philinuxice9;~ open a terminal and type setsid unity then press enter14:41
philinuxman setsid "       setsid - run a program in a new session14:42
ice9philinux: ok I will do it but if I crashed I will relogin to irc again14:43
philinuxice9;~ that command restarts unity so should avoid login14:43
ice9philinux: but will terminate apps?14:44
philinuxice9;~ no only unity14:44
ldiamondthe process 'console-kit-daemon' is taking 4GB memory.14:44
ldiamondAnyone have an idea about that?14:44
philinuxice9;~ bit of a workaround.14:45
cassio3rasberrypifan, I'm curious about your problem. specifically the unplugging the modem part.14:46
ice9philinux: unity restarted without windowmanager and dash or top menu14:51
ldiamondI'm trying to find out why after I shut down all the processes, log out and log back in, I'm still using 4.6GB memory....14:51
bekksldiamond: PAstebin "free -m" please and provide the URL.14:52
ldiamondbekks, https://gist.github.com/lewisdiamond/66d0bbabd75338a8393814:52
philinuxice9;~ you could try the intel linux driver14:53
ice9philinux: I'm using it already14:53
bekksldiamond: 13G are used as cache and about 600M are "used" by applications. No need to worry.14:54
blarghlarghlIs it possible to start a preseed install with a specific preseed file which loads up the network console, then in the console manually choose another preseed file and carry on with the install using the new preseed file? I'd like to do this so I can choose which preseed to use for a given machine, after it comes up on the network with the console.14:54
philinuxice9;~ have you tried without intel driver?14:54
ldiamondbekks, where do you see that 600M?14:54
ldiamondI see 4987m14:54
ice9philinux: no I can't mess with uninstalling it but it break things, I happened before,  but in 13.10 it was working with intel driver too14:55
bekksldiamond: And above that, you can see: 13630. 13630 - 13076 is round about 600M.14:55
philinuxice9;~ how about using an older kernel from the grub menu14:55
ice9philinux: will try that14:56
philinuxice9;~ so nothing in .xsession-errors14:56
bekksldiamond: This website explains it, too: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/14:57
ice9philinux: init: at-spi2-registryd respawning too fast, stopped14:58
philinuxice9;~ thats assistive tech14:59
ice9philinux: this one too init: indicator-bluetooth respawning too fast, stopped14:59
ldiamondbekks I'll check it out14:59
ldiamondbekks, that's the number I was looking at though.15:01
ldiamondbekks, can you explain why you subtracted the used memory including buffers and caches and the free memory excluding buffers and caches?15:06
ldiamondThat just gives me the difference between what's actually used by applications and what's completely free... no?15:07
bekksldiamond: Correct. And thats the interesting value. The more RAM you have, the more will be available, for buffers and cache - and may be used by applications as well. So we just need to know whats actually being used by applications, disregarding buffers and cache.15:09
ldiamondMy understanding is that those values are exactly that: -/+ buffers/cache:       4987      1307615:10
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ldiamond4987m being used, excluding buffers and cache. 13076 free.15:10
philinuxice9;~ not sure where to go now. try an older kernel maybe. also when  it crashes open terminal and use dmesg command see if anything there15:10
bekksldiamond: And thats wrong.15:11
killerHey , I need to mirror a  full website15:11
ice9philinux: ok thanks a lot I will try another kernel15:12
philinuxldiamond;~ post link from this. free -m |pastebinit15:13
ldiamondphilinux, https://gist.github.com/lewisdiamond/66d0bbabd75338a8393815:13
bekksldiamond: 18064 total available. 13630 "in use by whatever". 4987 of 13630 in use for buffers. 13076 of 13630 in use for buffers and cache. So: 13630 - 13076 actually in use for applications.15:13
ldiamondbekks, that's not what this site says: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/15:14
bekksldiamond: Actually thats ehat that site says.15:14
ldiamond4987 is 13630 - 3002 - 563915:15
ldiamondapproximately.15:15
bekksldiamond: you are still using the wrong column.15:16
philinuxldiamond;~ used is shown as 4987 and free is shown as 1307615:16
bekksldiamond: The site says: To see how much ram is free to use for your applications, run free -m and look at the row that says "-/+ buffers/cache" in the column that says "free".15:16
philinux^^15:16
ldiamondphilinux, that's what I'm saying.15:16
bekksphilinux: buffers can be used by applications too.15:17
bekksldiamond: ^^15:17
ldiamondbekks, yes, 13076.15:17
bekksldiamond: 13076 is totally free. 4900 are in use for buffers - and will be freed up when an application needs it.15:17
ldiamond4433 is totally free15:17
bekksSo _basically_ you have 13630-13076 in use.15:18
philinuxldiamond;~ nice explanation http://serverfault.com/questions/85470/meaning-of-the-buffers-cache-line-in-the-output-of-free15:18
ldiamondthe site says: The second line gives first line values adjusted. It gives the original value for used minus the sum buffers+cached and the original value for free plus the sum buffers+cached, hence its title. These new values are often more meaningful than those of first line.15:20
ldiamondi.e. 4987 = 13630 - 3002 - 563915:20
ldiamondbuffers being 3002 and cache 563915:21
Noianohello, I've updated to the latest hwe as requested but my touchpad doesn't work anymore ... can anybody help me troubleshoot?15:22
MalsasaHello, I have a problem with my cursor on Precise. This problem happens just today, I have never experienced something like this before. My cursor disappear when I do scrolling or typing, wheter it is on Chromium, Quassel, or another apps. I checked it on my Openbox, KDE, and Unity session. Same problem occured. The last config I did are something connected with postfix, gitk, mailman, and I have killed all those processes (I think they are not related15:30
Malsasawitk X11 or anything graphical). Any idea for me? It is not a hardware/VGA driver problem, I am sure. Thank you.15:30
philinuxldiamond;~ does that sort it for you?15:30
ldiamondphilinux, nope.15:31
ldiamondphilinux, how much memory is used by application given the gist I gave you?15:31
vltHello. I try to unlock a root crypt device from initrd. I created a hook script to include cryptsetup but when I enter the passphrase I get this error: http://pastebin.com/S4FWgeww -- Any idea what could be missing here?15:31
bekksldiamond: about 600M.15:31
ldiamondbekks, everywhere I look online says that's not correct.15:31
bekksldiamond: Every I look, it says it is correct, given the fact that buffers will be reduced in favor of application usage, whenever an application needs RAM occupied by buffers.15:32
noianohas anybody experienced problem with latest hwe update for ubuntu 12.04? My touchpad stopped working ... the buttons do work but I cannot move the cursor ... can anybody help me troubleshoot?15:33
pnglI'm trying to install Ubuntu on a USB drive using VirtualBox as described here (2nd answer) http://tinyurl.com/n7cf96w. My problem is that the guest doesn't see the USB drive even though it is enabled in the VirtualBox options.15:33
ldiamondbekks: "To see how much ram is free to use for your applications, run free -m and look at the row that says "-/+ buffers/cache" in the column that says "free". That is your answer in megabytes:"15:35
ntzhello15:36
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ntzI have one problem with ubuntu .. when I plug in a usb disk containing gpt i have to manually do `kpartx -va /dev/sdb' (if dev/sdb is that disk) in order to use it .. so the automouter thing is not recognizing it .. is it caused by gpt and by that the uninty device discovering daemon (or what is that) is not checking /dev/mapper/x things ?15:37
bekksldiamond: I know that, since I pasted that to you already from the given article. ;) And still, the memory used by applications is about 600M in your usecase. Due to the nature of buffers, cache and memory allocation on linux systems.15:37
bekksldiamond: http://serverfault.com/questions/23433/in-linux-what-is-the-difference-between-buffers-and-cache-reported-by-the-f explains what buffers and cache actually refer to.15:38
philinuxldiamond;~ http://paste.ubuntu.com/7789681/ from mine it's using 928meg , system monitor and the conky variables agree with this figure15:38
pnglSo on my Guest OS, the USB device does show up in the "Disks" application, but gparted doesn't see it.15:39
ldiamondphilinux, yes, 928m is exactly what I'm saying.15:40
ldiamondbekks says: 844.15:40
loabekks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/134131215:41
ubottuUbuntu bug 1341312 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "System couldn't boot from degraded raid 1" [Undecided,New]15:41
philinuxldiamond;~ slightly simplfied version http://thoughtsbyclayg.blogspot.co.uk/2008/09/display-free-memory-on-linux-ubuntu.html15:43
slipperynickdoes anyone know why byobu does not read my .screenrc after upgrading to 14.04?15:47
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ldiamondphilinux, we're saying the same thing.15:52
ldiamondno need to simplify.15:52
loahow i can report bug from ubuntu-server?15:52
ldiamondphilinux, bekks disagrees with us15:53
philinuxldiamond;~ not too worried, laptop running and nowhere near out of memory15:53
ldiamondwhat?15:53
trijntjeloa: ubuntu-bug <packagename>15:53
MartynKeigherhey all. i'm having when installing a ruby gem called 'roo'. here is a screenshot of the output... http://i.imgur.com/OcE5w8f.jpg. I then tried to install using " gem install nokogiri -- --use-system-libraries, " but it still fails. Any ideas hwy & how would i fix this? Thank you15:55
philinuxtrijntje;~ that would send him to launchpad, and would need a gui15:55
ldiamondbekks, can you please explain your logic or give me a link explaining it?15:56
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cemotyz09Hi I upgraded my gnome to 3.12 but now I can't restart shell by alt+F2 the R is there another way to restart the shell16:04
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sitdgood afternoon16:09
sitdI have a problem, I hope you can help me. I trying to install ubuntu on a macbook pro 3,1 with 10.9.4 but when I select install ubuntu on grub... the screen goes black and nothing happens16:11
sitdI've been searching the web, trying different workarounds... watching youtube videos... but I can't find a solution16:11
sitdanyone has any idea?16:12
vkxxhi16:16
vkxxi am trying to install ubuntu along with 8.116:16
vkxxcan anyone help?16:16
vkxxi disabled legacy boot option from boot menu and now bootable pendrive itself is not getting up16:17
vkxxit say boot device failed16:18
vkxxhow should i install ubuntu along windows 8.116:18
vkxxhow should i install ubuntu along windows 8.116:19
vkxx?16:19
vkxxanybody?16:19
MartynKeigherhyperv client?16:19
MartynKeigherspin up a vm on your 8.1 machines16:19
MartynKeigher*machine16:19
unclescratchiejust upgraded from 12.4  to 14.4 , what is terminal command for super user? tried "sudo nautilus" but that does not work16:22
Mac_WriteI need some major help with xUbuntu16:23
Mac_WriteI just did a fresh install and am limited to 800x600 while the liveCD used my monitors native resolution16:23
Mac_WriteWhat am I misisng?16:23
punkgeeki need encodeing my php file in /var/www/html, what should i do? :-?16:26
rypervenchepunkgeek: WHat kind of encoding and for what reason?16:30
nahtnamHey! I found this command online. iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s 0/0 --sport 1024:65535 -d <ip>  --dport 5432 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT Im not really sure what it does.16:38
nahtnamwhat is the last port you can use?16:40
nahtnamIs it 65535?16:41
icedwaterThat sounds about right to me. Have you tried it?16:41
rypervenchenahtnam: What version of Ubuntu are you running? The state module is no longer used in iptables and was replaced with conntrack16:42
nahtnamrypervenche: 14.0416:42
rypervenchenahtnam: Yeah, use -m conntrack --ctstate NEW,ESTABLISHED instead16:44
rypervenchenahtnam: Also make sure that ufw is turned off if you plan on using iptables16:44
nahtnamso `sudo ufw disable`?16:45
rypervenchenahtnam: I don't have enough experience with upstart to be able to answer that. Someone else here will have to help you with that.16:47
nahtnamrypervenche: Thanks a lot for your help!16:49
nahtnamI got it workign! :)16:49
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rypervenchenahtnam: Also, you don't need to specify the sport if you don't need to.16:50
nahtnamrypervenche: Too late :D16:50
jhutchinsnahtnam: This is a pretty good reference on IPTABLES stuff: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/16:51
nahtnamthx16:51
jhutchinsIt's meant for setting up a firewall and somewhat RH oriented, and a little old, but still one of the better guides.16:51
jhutchinsnahtnam: THis is a more thorough project for hardening a nework: http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~dranch/LINUX/TrinityOS/cHTML/TrinityOS-c.html16:52
jhutchinsnathanbbb: Remember that on-system firewalls are a stupid windows concept, your firewall needs to be on your router.16:52
nahtnamThats a lot of docs :D16:52
nahtnamjhutchins: I cant do that, I use digitalocean16:53
jhutchinsnathanbbb: With an on-system firewall every packet still reaches your kernel.16:53
sitdsee you later16:53
Guest79332Hello16:54
apinsvIs there any indicator in ubuntu to display whether there is internet connectivity in real time?16:57
sydneyGuest79332: Hi (if you have a question,just ask) ;)16:58
mojtabaHi, I am running ubuntu 14.04 LTS on Dell Studio 1555. The problem is that when I suspend the machine the next time the wireless is totally disabled. When I suspend the machine and run it again the wireless is working fine. (I have this problem after upgrading ubuntu) This occurs every other time at system boot up. Does anybody know what should I do?16:59
milanmojtaba: Try to change WiFi settings...17:00
mojtabamilan: There is no wifi (ifconfig shows just lo)17:00
rt44does anyone know how to convert .install files to .rt files?17:01
milanmojtaba: Hm, this is getting confusing. Did you try to restart your computer?17:02
mojtabamilan: Yes, and every other time it is working and not working.17:02
rt44?17:02
menaceHi, i have font/presentation issues with kvm-instances of ubuntu 14.04 on a 14.04 host. any idea how to solve this? the only hint, that i'm not the only one with this is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196872817:02
duckbugmojtaba: maybe some strange error at /var/log/pm-*.log?17:02
sydneymojtaba: Is it possibly your wifi card?17:03
milanI agree with that, maybe its hardware problem.17:03
mojtabasydney: I did not have this problem before. (it is after upgrading to 14.04 LTS)17:03
sydneyrt44: I have no clue... :P17:03
braulioHello everyone, Lubuntu automatically locks the screen when my computer is idle, I think I marked the options to not do that, but it doesn't work. Am I doing something wrong?17:03
sydneymojtaba: It could still be your wifi card though. Do you have another on you could try? usb?17:04
mojtabaduckbug: which one?17:04
mojtabasydney: no. :(17:05
sydneymojtaba: hmm...17:05
mojtabaIt is working and not working with 100% probability17:05
mojtabain each restart17:05
sydneymojtaba: if you hook it up using ethernet,do you have a prob?17:05
mojtabasydney: I did not test that, because I do not have such one17:06
sydneymojtaba: ok ;)17:06
milanEverytime when I open Skype and Chromium, Ubuntu gets laggy. I sent report about this bug. Is there any way to fix this?17:08
milanBTW, I must shutdown computer because its too laggy17:08
trijntjemilan: arent' you just out of RAM?17:09
sydneymilan: How much ram? What version of ubuntu?17:09
milan2gb of RAM, but its integrated on motherboard. The newest version of Ubuntu.17:10
marduk191Is there a kernel update or anything that will make git checkouts stop crashing in 14.04?17:10
milansydney: 2gb of RAM, but its integrated on motherboard. The newest version of Ubuntu.17:10
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sydneymilan: DOes the HD become bogged down,or what causes the lagginess,or are you not sure?17:11
milanIm not sure. But Im just sending instant messages over Skype and reading news on Chromium.17:12
sydneyHmm...17:13
sydneymilan: it could be swap,graphics card,or cpu...17:13
sydneyor all of them ;)17:14
apinsvi cannot control brightness of display for acer laptop with ubuntu 14.0417:14
milanHardware is cheap....17:14
milanapinsv: Did you tried with Fn button?17:15
sydneymilan: Thats how come you can buy computer so cheap :P they are made to b replaced every 3 years...17:15
apinsvmilan: i can see the indication of brightness change slider, but no change in brightness17:16
milansydney: BTW thanks :)17:16
sydneymilan: np for what ever i did. :P17:17
sydneyapinsv: What model laptop?17:17
apinsvsydney:acer aspire e1-53117:18
marduk191So there is no way to use ubuntu with git then? I have 7 compile machines, 3 of them use ubuntu and are freshly updated, all 3 crash (hard reboot) on git checkouts.17:19
trijntjemarduk191: checkout of what?17:19
marduk191repo syncs, the when checking out branches it just freezes then hard reboots17:20
sydneyapinsv: looking...17:20
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trijntjemarduk191: does it run out of memory?17:21
marduk191no, I run 17 920's with 12GB ram in all three machines.17:21
trijntjedid you check if it runs out?17:22
marduk191feed me commands. I'll give you any output you want lol.17:23
marduk191but yes, it was sitting at around 2GB used17:23
apinsvsydney: i got the solution, issue resolved after creating a config file manually17:23
sydneyapinsv: oh,good. You can use the fn+ brightness key on you keyboard also.17:24
apinsvsydney: that was not working17:24
sydneyapinsv:  :-/17:25
apinsvsydney: Fn+brightness key shows me the brightness on lcd changing , but actually does nothing17:25
sydneyapinsv: weird!?17:26
apinsvsydney: this was the solution: sudo touch /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf17:26
apinsvNow we need to edit this file. You can use any editor be it a terminal one or graphical.17:26
apinsvsudo gedit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf17:26
apinsvAdd the following lines to this file:17:26
apinsv“ Section17:26
apinsv"Device"17:26
unopasteapinsv you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted17:26
marduk191ok mint 17 does this too. it's something with 14.0417:26
sydneyapinsv: Its touch? COol!!17:26
sydneyapinsv: Its touchscreen,right?17:28
apinsvsydney: Not touch screen, normal one17:28
sydneyapinsv: oh.17:29
varunendrasydney, 'touch' is just a command, to update the 'modified' time of a file, or create it if it doesn't exist already :)17:29
varunendramojtaba, still on the wifi issue?17:29
sydneyvarunendra: :P ;)17:29
sydneyI want to try ubuntu gnome on a touchscreen so much.....17:30
apinsvsydney: touch is a linux command17:31
sydneyapinsv: I see that :P17:31
ranjit_hi17:31
sydneyranjit_: Hulo17:32
varunendramojtaba, I may disconnect shortly (unless found some interesting task), but for wireless troubleshooting, a report generated by the 'wireless_script' may help a lot. The instructions to download and run it are mentioned here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1302422217:32
Heavy_4_EverHi !17:33
wrongplaceis there any newer alternative to goldendict? it cannot hide adverts17:34
marduk191bah, I can't figure this out, it's already taken a week of build time. I just have to switch to something that works until I can figure it out. Thanks guys.17:34
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rypervenchewrongplace: I only know of stardict and goldendict.17:38
apinsvsydney: scrolling happens the opposite way in ubuntu when compared to windows 8.117:39
sydneyapinsv: wht?17:40
apinsvsydney: scrolling pages is in opposite direction to how it happens in windows17:40
RLW980Hello guys I've burn a .iso of the latest Ubuntu and I've used tools such as: UNetbootin, Startup Disk Creator and via the command line. I've made it bootable as well and when I F12 or set the BIOS to boot the USB first all I get is "Boot error" what does this mean. I mean I've used Google Search Engine17:41
sydneyapinsv: ah,you go sideways? Im confused? I have never used windows in touchscreen.17:41
apinsvsydney: its not touch screen17:41
apinsvsydney: up and down>>not sideways17:42
sydneyapinsv: I know up down. What do you mean by<scrolling happens the opposite way in ubuntu when compared to windows 8.1> What way does.1 go?17:43
sydney8.1*17:43
RLW980Hello guys I've burn a .iso of the latest Ubuntu and I've used tools such as: UNetbootin, Startup Disk Creator and via the command line. I've made it bootable as well and when I F12 or set the BIOS to boot the USB first all I get is "Boot error" what does this mean. I mean I've used Google Search Engine17:43
apinsvsydney: when i move up it goes down in ubuntu17:44
apinsvin 8.1 it goes up17:44
sydney!patience| RLW98017:45
ubottuRLW980: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/17:45
sydneyapinsv: ok ;)17:45
OerHeksRLW980, check your bios, you changed bootorder, check hdd section if you need to change hdd/usb drive too17:45
RLW980!patience | sydney17:45
varunendraRLW980, first thing to check is - Is the ISO you downloaded okay? Have you checked its MD5sum to confirm it is not broken itself? Or a much better way to confirm - boot a VM (Virtual Machine) with the ISO if you have VBox or VMware type things installed.17:45
ubottusydney: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/17:45
RLW980sydney: Don't piss me off ok17:46
OerHeksplease do not play with ubottu, no need for that, thanks17:46
shoerainHow do I get the PID of a process that I wrote an upstart script for? Do I have to manually create /var/run/<process>.pid? I was kind of hoping it was auto-generated like /var/log/upstart/<process>.log17:46
RLW980OerHeks: SHH!!!17:46
RLW980varunendra: No I don't need VM17:46
RLW980OerHeks: meaning17:46
randhi17:51
dkbughi17:51
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RLW980Any help17:52
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RLW980Fine be like this then17:56
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RLW980wankers no help Hello guys I've burn a .iso of the latest Ubuntu and I've used tools such as: UNetbootin, Startup Disk Creator and via the command line. I've made it bootable as well and when I F12 or set the BIOS to boot the USB first all I get is "Boot error" what does this mean. I mean I've used Google Search Engine17:59
hwuthi.17:59
dannixonRLW980: You make it so hard for people to want to help you.18:00
sydneydannixon: Yes,he does. ;)18:00
unclescratchiewhat is the command for root in terminal ubuntu 14.418:00
varunendraoops, we just tend to piss off such 'precious customers' ;p18:01
rt44sudo?18:01
hash__help18:01
pl1xis ubuntu 10.04.4 working on a 12 years old pc?18:01
OerHeksunclescratchie, sudo <command>18:01
OerHekspl1x, maybe, depends on the specs > duso core, 1 gb ram minimum and a recent videocard18:02
OerHeksduo*18:02
unclescratchieoerHeks:  i upgraded  from ubunut 12.4,  there it was "sudo nautilus"  and I dont know what it is for  ubuntu 14.418:02
OerHeksunclescratchie, for gui apps, use "gksudo nautilus"18:03
varunendraunclescratchie, why do you want to run nautilus as root? I hope you understand the risks.18:03
OerHeks!sudo18:03
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo18:03
pl1xOerHeks: well, it's a 2.40ghz single core, 512mb ram and a 64mb graphics card18:03
varunendraOerHeks, unclescratchie 'gksu' is not installed by default on 14.04. You need to install it first with "sudo apt-get install gksu"18:04
OerHekspl1x, try Xubuntu or lightweight Lubuntu18:04
unclescratchievarunendra:  i need to place some fonts and images so they will be system wide:::::::  i already installed gksu18:04
* OerHeks thinks it is odd, no gksudo/gksu standard18:05
varunendraunclescratchie, it is safer to use cp command with sudo, but if you understand the risks, then doing it nautilus is also okay (and easier for those who don't like commands much).18:05
Guido1hello, Iḿ doubting about the partition format of a 500 GB dada drive. so  onthere are only documents on it and some short clips. I use the drive on Xubuntu, Windows XP and windows 8.1. Last time it was formated as fat 32, but after conecting it to windoows 8.1 it broke18:05
unclescratchiegksudo nautilus does not work with 14.418:07
unclescratchiehas to be something else18:07
varunendraunclescratchie, gksudo is just a symlink to gksu. Have you also tried 'gksu nautilus' ?18:08
unclescratchieill try that   hang on18:08
unclescratchienot working either18:09
pl1xOerHeks: thanks! i'll try18:09
varunendraunclescratchie, is 'gksu' working for anything at all? For example, 'gksu gedit'18:10
herbert_po18:10
varunendraunclescratchie, if running that from terminal, do you get any error messages?18:10
herbert_donde es herberto18:11
unclescratchievarunendra:  yu[.......nautilus_window_gets_slos; asertion failed:18:11
unclescratchieslots not slos18:12
herbert_omar benali18:12
sydneyunclescratchie: are you using unity?18:12
varunendraunclescratchie, no idea about that error :( Maybe try the commands and avoid the headache18:12
unclescratchienot sure  I just downloaded the ISO last night and installed  not sure what version18:13
sydneyunclescratchie: are you using regular ubuntu,or lubuntu,or ubuntu gnome,ect???18:13
unclescratchiesydney: dont know18:13
sydneyunclescratchie: hmm,let me see...18:14
sydneyunclescratchie: does it have a bar to the left,that has some programs in it?18:15
varunendrasydney, unclescratchie a possible command to determine the current DE - "env | grep XDG.*DESKTOP"18:17
varunendrajust cooked it, there maybe better ways :p18:17
unclescratchieLinux version 3.13.0-24-generic (buildd@roseapple) (gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) ) #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:08:14 UTC 201418:19
sydneyvarunendra: that gives me nothing. ;P18:20
unclescratchievarunendra: Linux version 3.13.0-24-generic (buildd@roseapple) (gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) ) #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:08:14 UTC 201418:21
sydneyunclescratchie: when you restart the computer,what does the splash screen say?18:21
OerHekscat /etc/issues18:21
varunendrasydney, for me it returned "XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity" so I thought it would work for everyone. Using only 'env' should give all the environment variable values.18:21
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unclescratchiesydney:  sorry  did not pay attention18:21
sydneyunclescratchie: maybe give that a try. it should say somthing like 'ubuntu' or 'lubuntu' or 'ubun tu gnome' ect...18:22
sydneyubuntu gnome*18:22
SchrodingersScatcat /etc/issue ?18:22
sydneyvarunendra: it says unity fo me,but i dont even have unity installed!!18:23
sydneyvarunendra: i use ubuntu gnome ;)18:23
Guido1hello, Iḿ doubting about the partition format of a 500 GB dada drive. so  onthere are only documents on it and some short clips. I use the drive on Xubuntu, Windows XP and windows 8.1. Last time it was formated as fat 32, but after conecting it to windoows 8.1 it broke so what format should i use?18:24
RLW980Hello guys I've burn a .iso of the latest Ubuntu and I've used tools such as: UNetbootin, Startup Disk Creator and via the command line. I've made it bootable as well and when I F12 or set the BIOS to boot the USB first all I get is "Boot error" what does this mean. I mean I've used Google Search Engine18:25
harmI have an offline computer, and to install the wifi drivers i need to install the build essential package.. I started to manually load the needed packages and now i have 2 packages which have a looped dependency. Any help?18:25
varunendraunclescratchie, I've read that gksu has some bug in 14.04, don't know what kind. Maybe just run it with "sudo -H" (sudo -H nautilus)18:25
OerHeks!offline | harm18:25
ubottuharm: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. See also !APTonCD18:25
harmGuido1: i recommend making 1 partition per OS.. linux EXT4, windows xp and 8.1 both on seperate NTFS. If needed create 25GB per OS and then have a shared folder partition of the remainder..18:26
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dannixonRLW980: Sounds like your image may be bad or the write to disk failed. DId you do a checksum of it after writing?18:26
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varunendraharm, which packages are you stuck with?18:26
harmubottu: Synaptic installed you stupid tin18:26
ubottuharm: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:26
RLW980dannixon: yes18:27
Guido1harm: itś an external drive. just for data.18:27
harmvarunendra: libstdc++6-4.6 and g++-4.6_4.6.418:27
Guido1harm: the drive is conected to a dual boot ubuntu / windows 8.1 and in the university windows 7 and somtimes windows xp18:28
dannixonRLW980: Did you read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194960218:28
RLW980Yes18:28
unclescratchieverunendra:  thanks......I tried viewing the release, kicks back "no modules available"....  everything else just says generic18:28
harmGuido1: ohh i see, sorry for misreading, but yeah FAT32 is fine.. and you can also format as NTFS (not a problem for ubuntu anymore)18:29
RLW980dannixon: yes18:29
varunendraharm, do you have the .deb packages of those components? If yes, you can manually install them with "dpkg -i <package 1> <package 2>"18:29
Willemhow can i use a 14.04 repository in 14.1?18:30
harmvarunendra: the bot might be right, a download script would work perfectly.. but i cant install synaptic.. i could do it manually perhaps..18:30
dannixonRLW980: Does the image work on other computers, do other USB drives work, does a CD/DVD work, do other OS images work?18:30
Willemi am missing dependencies in 14.1 universe18:30
Guido1harm: okee, i was not so sure, because after conecting the drive the first time to windows 8.1 (formated as fat 32) it faild18:31
RLW980dannixon: yesd18:31
sebastianlutterI installed owncloud 6 via apt-get, everything is well (even sending mail over smtp), but if I send a share link to a email, and then access the link owncloud tells me the link does not work. In apache2 error.log I get: " client denied by server configuration: /usr/share/owncloud/data/htaccesstest.txt". Since I installed it via apt-get permissions should be ok, or? Any idea?18:31
varunendraharm, if you have already installed some of the required packages manually, then I think 'force installing' the rest is the only way ahead. Otherwise you could install ALL the packages+dependencies in one go with "sudo dpkg -i *"18:31
harmGuido1: let me do a quick check, but that sounds super odd. 8.1 should work fine with fat3218:31
Guido1harm: and i heard that ubuntu has some "defrag"problems with ntfs18:31
OerHeksWillem, not, unless it is an PPA with packages for 14.10 alfa18:31
dannixonRLW980: I asked four questions there.18:31
Willemoh darn18:31
harmvarunendra: i have not installed anything yet, just double clicking the .deb packages and following the dependency messages18:32
Willemso if the official 14.1 universe repository is missing something i need, and is in 14.04 i can use it18:32
dannixonRLW980: ANd answering yes to two of them mean you do not have a problem18:32
varunendraharm, then it's good. We can start from scratch then?18:32
Willemcan==cannot18:32
varunendraharm, all you need to install (for now) is build-essential, right?18:32
varunendraunclescratchie, did you try the "sudo -H nautilus" command?18:33
harmvarunendra: yes, and the dpkg trick is somehow working :) gave a small error something but repaired18:33
unclescratchiegot my version....DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu18:33
unclescratchieDISTRIB_RELEASE=14.0418:33
unclescratchieDISTRIB_CODENAME=trusty18:33
unclescratchieDISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 14.04 LTS"18:33
harmvarunendra: thanks, now build essential is asking for new stuff but i can resolve with your solution :)18:34
Guido1harm: yes, but also odd that a hdd fail just after 2 month18:35
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varunendraharm, next time, you can use "apt-get install --print-uris <package name>" to get the download URIs of the package and all its dependencies. This command *pretends* to install the packages, but actually returns the download URIs instead of trying to download them itself. Then you can use the "sudo dpkg -i *" trick to install them once downloaded and copied to the target computer.18:35
harmGuido1: you can do a health check on the HDD18:36
Guido1harm: read errrors, butt it was a clone from a broken disk made by a recovery service18:37
harmvarunendra: i tried, but build-essential isnt in the known apt-get db.. first need to run an update.. and no connection for that18:37
harmGuido1: that sounds like a possible problem :)18:37
andreipathhi room18:38
varunendraharm, yup, that's a pre-requisite for the --print-uris method. It's unfortunate that there is no straightforward way to install build-essential :(18:38
Guido1harm: so i had to send it in and on thusday i will get it back,. the plan is to coppy everything to another partition. format the new hdd - ntfs or fat? - and put everything back18:39
varunendra..on "no-internet" systems of course.18:39
Guido1harm: itś not a restord drive, but a new one18:39
harmGuido1: it shouldnt matter too much what you format it in, both FS work on XP/7/8/8.1 and Unix18:41
harmvarunendra: 5.4Kb package.. 9000+ rage18:42
Guido1harm: okee, thanks. is there an advantage of one? as i only have documents on the drive i don't care about the 4 GB limit18:42
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harmGuido1: FAT32 can do more then 4GB. You might be confusing the old plain FAT or 32bit architecture support max of 4GB in ram memory :)18:43
Guido1harm: so is there ann advantage for either fat 32 or ntfs or even the new fat?18:44
SupaYoshiHi!18:44
SupaYoshiI got a problem, with default gateway for a interface.18:44
SupaYoshihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7790371/18:45
Guido1i also have a windows 95 and linux question. if i share something from linux i can acces it with xp just fine annd the other way raound, 95 and xp works fine too. I can alsoo acces shared folders on 95 with linux, but not the other way round. so i asume that i should set up samba different18:45
SupaYoshiI want to delete the 1st entry, on line 13, and 20.18:46
SupaYoshiAnd change the default gateway for interface tun0 to 10.15.1.118:46
harmvarunendra: BUILD ESSENTIAL IS INSTALLED!!!! took 8 packages and about 20+ USB stick swaps18:47
varunendraharm, Congratulations for winning the world-essential-cup ! :D18:48
SupaYoshiAnyone an idea?18:48
wdblI installed trash-cli on my 12.04 server and I can put stuff in the trash - but there is no ~/.local/ directory in my installation...so where is trash stored?18:50
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varunendraSupaYoshi, there is some direct way in NM to do it automatically, but I don't remember it. For the commandline way, you need to delete the current default root first18:51
SupaYoshihow? :P18:51
binaryis it possible to remaster a ubuntu iso and tell it to not use an apt mirror for installing debs (and use a local repository on the usb key?)18:51
binaryim trying to tell it during install to ignore asking me to give it an apt mirror18:52
varunendraSupaYoshi, "sudo route del default" .... then "sudo route add default gateway 10.15.1.1 tun0"18:52
varunendraSupaYoshi, correction : "sudo route add default gw 10.15.1.1 tun0" (gw instead of "gateway")18:53
SupaYoshihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7790396/18:53
SupaYoshihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7790398/18:53
baboonheadSupaYoshi: tea it18:54
varunendraSupaYoshi, and what is the current "route -n" ?18:55
demon^eyei need gadget for cpu usage anyone?18:55
wdbltrash-cli mystery solved: I did all of my experimentation on a shared volume and it created a directory ".Trash-1000" at the root18:55
SupaYoshihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7790409/18:56
SupaYoshithat is route-n18:56
jeff__I have a rackmount server with ubuntu 14 on it.  I have a mac.  Im trying to run a game server, client and server reocgnize eachother, but server says ______ lost connection, and client says "timed out"  any ideas what about my network maybe causing this?18:57
SupaYoshivarunendra, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7790409/ is the result of route -n18:57
caiAnyone know a repo for icecat/iceweasel that's kept up to date for ubuntu? All of the ones I've found are several months behind... not safe. Or perhaps another firefox/gekko based browser.18:57
jeff__disabled firewall, checked that the needed port for the game is open18:57
varunendraSupaYoshi, I think you also need to add a route to 10.15.1.0 via tun0 first18:59
SupaYoshivarunendra, how would i do that?19:00
SupaYoshisudo route add default gw 10.15.1.0 tun019:00
SupaYoshi??19:00
varunendraSupaYoshi, "route add net 10.15.1.0 tun0" ... then the "gw" command. Be aware that my knowledge about VPN tunnels is zero, just suggesting on the basis of my fundamental knowledge about routing table.19:01
SupaYoshimhm.19:01
SupaYoshiOkay, then Im asking at openvpn first.19:01
varunendraSupaYoshi, good idea :)19:01
xuihow to enable the composite extension in ubuntu?19:02
blzHello, I'm trying to uninstall vsftpd on ubuntu 14.04 server.  I'm getting the following error:  http://hastebin.com/sikikasigo.txt19:05
blzwhat gives?19:05
doom3Hello, i have a Problem installing doom3 (x86) on my 14.04 (x86_64) ubuntu, someone know what i can do? ia32-libs are missing in the repos of 14.0419:05
blzdoom3,  google is usually helpful in these cases:  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23182765/how-to-install-ia32-libs-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts19:06
xuiwhere is the xorg.conf in ubuntu 14.04?19:06
Beldarxui, The channel will probably need the ubuntu release and hardware info to start with, it should be running I would think.19:06
doom3blz, thanks =D19:07
xuiBeldar, just asking because i cant find xorg.conf anywhere19:07
Beldarxui, Not there unless you add a driver I believe.19:07
xuiBeldar, i got the nvidia driver (from nvidia)19:08
Beldarxui, Not really an area I'm up on, you might address this more as the actual issue. Proprietary drivers are not supported here as well.19:09
xuiBeldar, so without the propertary where can i find some xorg.conf.19:09
OerHekshowto generate an xorg.conf http://askubuntu.com/a/28168519:10
xuiOerHeks, thanks.19:11
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Guest6332hi19:12
SupaYoshianyone experience routing traffic over a vpn, and adding a route to make it work? is it safe?19:15
SupaYoshi"route add net 10.15.1.0 tun0" ... then the "gw" command. Be aware that my knowledge about VPN tunnels is zero, just suggesting on the basis of my fundamental knowledge about routing table.19:16
Beldarxui, Yo have other help now, I was concerned that the info so far would not get you any is all. ;)19:16
BeldarYou*19:16
Guido1if i want tio acces a shared foolder with xp on linux it works fine, but if i try it from windows 95 i get asked for a pasword. (between xp and 95 woorks fine) What is the reason?19:20
xuiBeldar, ah i did come back to linux after some 7 years most thinks where different these time.19:20
xuithings*19:21
OerHeksGuido1, update your windows 95 grinn19:21
blzHow should I go about identifying and killing a zombie process?19:22
nightdemon666i have a question, im using totem video player on ubuntu 14.04, and i noticed that for some reason when the space bar button is pressed, or the left and right arrows, a LARGE image of the rewind, fast forward, or pause/play comes up on the screen. any one else experienced this?19:22
varunendraSupaYoshi, you just quoted what I said to you. Am I supposed to take notice of it or comment anything? :)19:22
SupaYoshieh, yah. I tried the command you said, and that didnt work either x_x19:22
SupaYoshiso i think its someting with openvpn.19:22
SupaYoshiI asked there, takes a while before they respond.19:22
varunendraSupaYoshi, I'd like to see current "route -n"19:23
OerHeksblz,  this is a good start http://askubuntu.com/questions/111422/how-to-find-zombie-process19:23
Guido1OerHeks: what is grinn?19:23
OerHeksGuido1, windows95 / samba is too old, good luck19:23
SupaYoshihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7790521/19:23
rt44ibm dos 1.019:24
Guido1OerHeks: samba is to old?19:24
blzOerHeks, the PID of my zombie process changes every time I do ps aux | grep 'Z'19:24
blzOerHeks, that seems ... unusual19:25
OerHeksblz, find the main process that spawns zombies19:25
nightdemon666i have a question, im using totem video player on ubuntu 14.04, and i noticed that for some reason when the space bar button is pressed, or the left and right arrows, a LARGE image of the rewind, fast forward, or pause/play comes up on the screen. any one else experienced this?19:25
OerHeksblz see step 2 :  Find the zombie's parent:19:25
blzOerHeks, right, but that's precisely my point.  I can't because the PID seems to change at random19:26
alison412hi all. i am trying to upgrade using do-release-upgrade. i am over ssh and lost my connection. no worrries, it starts screen when it starts. except now it wont accept my user password. i am logged in as root right now but im not sure what to do without breaking it. help.19:26
ryan_Hello guys]19:28
varunendraSupaYoshi, the routing table you posted doesn't show the changes that should exist after running the "route add" commands I suggested19:28
ryan_I installed Linux on one hdd then put it in my laptop19:29
SupaYoshiit says, unknown host when i do that.19:29
varunendraSupaYoshi, even with the "route add net..." command?19:29
nightdemon666ryan_ and...19:29
Foxhoundzhow do I connect to a WiFi network via command line19:29
Foxhoundzand have it autoconnect at startup19:29
ryan_nightdemon666: I can't boot from USB19:29
nightdemon666how old is the laptop ryan_19:30
ryan_nightdemon666: year ol19:30
ryan_d19:30
banister_hi, what's the best way to setup a VPN on ubuntu?19:30
SupaYoshiverunendra, im jus gonna ask @#openvpn, cus I dun wanna dd anything stupid,a nd yes, even with that.19:30
SupaYoshi:/ idk whats going wrong.19:30
nightdemon666have you looked in the BIOS settings ryan_19:30
ryan_nightdemon666: yes and nothing, just gives me "boot error"19:30
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varunendraSupaYoshi, another correction : there should be a hyphen (-) before "net" (sudo route add -net 10.15.1.0 tun0)19:31
SupaYoshihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7790544/19:31
nightdemon666ryan_ by 'nothing' what do you mean, you either have; option to boot from usb, or you must tell the bios to boot from that drive first in the list... in other workds, you may have to have the usb hdd prioity about inter hdd19:31
ryan_nightdemon666: boot error pops up WHEN BOOTING INTO USB!!19:32
ryan_nightdemon666: Jezzz19:32
nightdemon666lol, just making sure i know exactly the error... can you boot it on any other computer?19:32
ryan_nightdemon666: yes19:33
varunendraSupaYoshi, hmm.. the "SIOCADDRT.." errors are returned by drivers depending upon network card's capabilities. But can't guess what it means in context of a VPN tunnel. So I'd like to bail out now.. :|19:34
nightdemon666what linux os are you trying to boot?, and how did you load it? dd? unetbootin?19:34
SupaYoshivarunendra, np.19:34
SupaYoshiIll jus ask them :P19:34
ryan_nightdemon666:  I plug my latptop hdd into my computer installed the O.S then put the laptop hdd back into the laptop, then try to boot from USb then all I get is "boot error" in other words19:34
nightdemon666ryan_ the hdd of the laptop is pluggen via usb or internally installed?19:36
nightdemon666*plugged in19:36
ryan_nightdemon666: Internally19:36
nightdemon666then why are you trying to boot usb, just wondering19:36
ryan_nightdemon666: trying to install Ubuntu onto the HDD19:37
nightdemon666could you not accomplish that when you installed (what ever linux os you installed) onto the hdd when you connected it to your computer?19:38
ryan_nightdemon666: Meaning19:39
ryan_?19:39
vector_how do I get a script to run at boot19:40
nightdemon666meaning, you said you installed linux os onto the internal hdd of the laptop on your computer, then installed the hdd back into the laptop... what linux os did you install onto the laptops hdd?19:40
ryan_nightdemon666: yes that right19:40
nightdemon666what so did you installl ryan_19:41
ryan_nightdemon666: I'll find out now for you19:41
ryan_Eos19:41
ryan_nightdemon666: Elementry OF19:41
ryan_nightdemon666: Elementry OS19:41
nightdemon666interesting.... couldnt you just do the same thing to install ubuntu or do you want to dual boot?19:41
nightdemon666well anyway ryan_ you did say that the ubuntu loaded usb thumb drive boots just fine off of the computer just not off the laptop right?19:42
ryan_nightdemon666: no19:43
ryan_nightdemon666: it just says boot error from the usb when it's bootable19:43
nightdemon666but im gonna ask this again, it boots correctly from computer? just not the laptop?19:44
ryan_nightdemon666: what now the usb right?19:45
* cemotyz09 laughs to himself19:45
ryan_cemotyz09: why19:45
nightdemon666yeah, i boot off usb all the time, but i trouble shoot... i try it on more than one computer, and if i get the same error code, then its the way i loaded the usb stick, if it boots from one and not the other, then i know its an issue with the one computer that wont boot it19:46
nightdemon666some times, if you load the os onto the usb drive (live install) using unetbootin wont do it right, some times you have to load it via dd. some times you have to turn on the boot flag on the usb drive via gparted to get it to work.19:47
rt44§)19:47
ryan_nightdemon666: I should know mate It's not the USB it's because I plugged the hdd to the pc and installed via the pc instead of the19:47
ryan_nightdemon666: plugging it into the laptop it self19:47
nightdemon666well, you should have been able to install via usb to the laptop without having to take the hdd out of the laptop... to me, it does seem the usb wasnt loaded correctly, or there is a boot priority misconfiguration on the laptop bios19:49
ryan_nightdemon666: I don't know, could you help?19:49
nightdemon666unless you have a mac. its a huge pain in the rear to install linux via usb on a mac19:49
nightdemon666im trying to help you19:50
ryan_nightdemon666: i hate mac19:50
nightdemon666how did you load the linux os on the usb stick?19:50
nightdemon666what program did you use?19:50
ryan_nightdemon666: i install it on unetbootin19:50
nightdemon666some times unetbootin wont do it. i suggest you use dd instead19:51
ryan_nightdemon666: done that as-well19:51
nightdemon666unebootin has not always been the reliable solution for me19:51
nightdemon666you checked that there is a boot flag on the partition of the usb stick?19:52
* rt44 has gone mad19:52
ryan_nightdemon666: I dont know then I need this laptop working before tomorrow19:52
nightdemon666if you need it expedited, then can you just burn a cd?19:53
ryan_nightdemon666: cd drive dead19:53
Foxhoundzfor some reason, running dchlient wlan0 makes it hang19:53
Foxhoundzit doesn't returnning anything19:54
Foxhoundzreturn*19:54
nightdemon666then why dont you install ubuntu directly on to the hdd like you did with Eos?19:54
ryan_nightdemon666: how will I do that19:55
UltimaKRCan anyone help me connecting older computers running lubuntu to a single monitor?19:55
nightdemon666i thought you said you installed Eos onto the laptop drive from a different computer... isnt that what you did to install Eos?19:55
ryan_nightdemon666: yes but wouldn't the bootloader at like it's got my PC spec when it's not it's my laptops spec19:56
ryan_nightdemon666: in other world wouldn't the spec be different19:57
ryan_nightdemon666: in other words wouldn't the spec be different19:58
nightdemon666its linux, you should be able to install linux os to that drive and swap it out onto the laptop. you can work out what works and what doesnt if you need to, but again its linux. if its a freash install, it wont make any differnt19:58
ryan_nightdemon666: ok19:58
ryan_nightdemon666: will it work19:59
pl1xOerHeks: xubuntu 12.04.4 runs almost perfekt19:59
pl1xthanks for the help! :)20:00
nightdemon666it will work as long as you match the cpu archtecture, make sure the os your going to install is either 32 bit or 64 bit appropriately20:01
nightdemon666both computers take the same kind of hdd right?20:02
nightdemon666ryan_ i meant to type the messages about with your handle...20:02
ryan_nightdemon666: Eh? :S20:03
NilsFR13Hi all of you20:03
NilsFR13I broke the repository window of Synaptic => http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/714761Capturedu20140713213059.png20:03
TheNH813HELP! Why cant my kernel find the root partition. It complains about not being able to find /dev/disk/by-uuid/something. Turns out /dev/disk dosent exist! What option do I need to compile my kernel with to enable it?20:04
NilsFR13any idea to have it back ?, apt-get remove --purge and install already done20:04
nightdemon666hwat i mean is, find out if your laptop is running 32 bit cpu or 64 bit. then load that os version onto the hdd using your computer. as long as both your computer and laptop support the same kind of hdd, which laptop hdd are smaller than most desktop hdd, then it will work20:04
TheNH813I think I missed something in menuconfig.20:05
ryan_nightdemon666: okay what the os20:05
TheNH813Iv wasted most of today trying different bootloader options.20:05
TheNH813Im using 12.04LTS and latest kernel 3.4.9820:05
ryan_Guys help me chose the best O.S, I've got 2GB USB20:05
TheNH813@Ryan_ Puppy Linux is good for USB drives.20:06
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ryan_TheNH813: Ok can I install PL OS onto my HDD and boot it from my HDD after installtion20:07
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TheNH813ryan_: Yes, but I though you meant to install to a flash drive. For a desktop I reccommend Xubuntu, Zorin 7 or Chakra.20:08
TheNH813Anyone know what I did to compile my kernel wrong?20:09
ryan_TheNH813: I don't want Ubuntu products because of the "search spam" they do20:09
TheNH813ryan_: Ok, understood. Iv tried over a hundred, something will come to my mind.20:09
ryan_TheNH813: ok THANKS20:10
blzHello, I just updated my ubuntu server install to 14.04 LTS.  Now, when I run `/usr/bin/xbmc --standalone &`, I get the following xorg error log.  Can anybody point me in the right direction to solve this?  http://hastebin.com/oficocoteh.coffee20:10
ryan_TheNH813: I've only got a 2GB usb20:11
ryan_and Chakra is 1.8GB20:11
TheNH813blz: X cannot start, try reconfiguring the video drivers.20:11
Guido1okee, iḿ a bit confused. one xubuntu 14 is set up to share folders with samba. the othe is set up the same after a fresh install, but i can only acces the first with win 95. so where else are settings which i should compare?20:11
blzTheNH813, how should I go about doing that?20:11
TheNH813blz: You would need to edit X's config file, but if your not too used to the terminal/text interfaces it might be hard.20:12
ryan_C'mon guys what is the best O.S for a 2GB USB20:12
blzTheNH813, terminal is fine... I'm just not used to xorg20:13
TheNH813+ryan_: Im thinking, I have my review notes and im going throiugh.20:13
ryan_TheNH813: ok20:13
rt44ubuntu20:13
nightdemon666ruan_ i would go with lubuntu20:13
nightdemon666ryan_20:13
TheNH813rt44: he dosent want to use a Ubuntu variant.20:13
rt44suse?20:14
nightdemon666lubuntu doesnt o the search spam does it?20:14
nightdemon666you could just go with good ol debian ryan_20:14
nightdemon666ryan_ check out crunchbang20:14
TheNH813Yes, more specifically crunch..... haha you said waht I was gonna.20:14
ryan_rt44: I can't have Ubuntu because of this - https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.html20:15
TheNH813Or another variant, they are prety good.20:15
rt44ok20:15
rt44suse20:15
rt44?20:15
nightdemon666i love #!20:15
TheNH813Me too, I use it on a old PC I turned into a media center.20:16
ryan_PuppyLinux whats that like20:16
TheNH813ITs a very light OS that uses JWM and boots real quick.20:16
TheNH813ryan_: It can run completely in ram so you get almost SSD speeds on any old PC.20:17
ryan_give me 5 linux Distros20:17
TheNH813Ok, coming up!20:17
ryan_TheNH813: thanks20:17
TheNH813Lol my own notes are confusing me.20:17
ryan_LOL :p20:17
nightdemon666FYI, isnt restricting the uploading of data to canonicals servers an option on ubuntu ?????20:18
ryan_nightdemon666: meaning20:18
nightdemon666there are ways of  not letting ubuntu send search and other meta data, as is decribed in the link provided. look up fixbuntu...20:19
TheNH813ryan_: Do you like the E17 window manager?20:19
NilsFR13wrong repository window in synaptic solved by running sudo apt-get install software-properties-gtk20:20
TheNH813ryan_: Bohdi is a interesting one to check out if so. http://www.bodhilinux.com/20:21
ryan_TheNH813: is E17 WM OS or an add-on20:21
TheNH813ryan_: E17 Is a window manager.20:21
TheNH813ryan_: screenshot coming.20:22
ryan_OH ok20:22
ryan_OH okThanks20:22
TheNH813ryan_: https://encrypted.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=bohdi%20linux%20screenshots&tbs=imgo:1 Almost looks like OSX.20:23
ryan_TheNH813: i DON'T like mac20:24
ryan_TheNH813: so, yeah that's a BIG no20:24
TheNH813ryan_: Ok, actually this list may help: https://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/752221-the-top-7-best-linux-distros-for-2014/20:24
ryan_TheNH813: ok thanks20:24
ryan_brb off the install new OS20:25
TheNH813ryan_: Opensuse is a pretty decent OS, but fitting it on a 2GB is a squeeze.20:26
ryan_TheNH813: I know right20:26
ryan_brb though lol20:26
Guido1okee, iḿ a bit confused. one xubuntu 14 is set up to share folders with samba. the othe is set up the same after a fresh install, but i can only acces the first with win 95. so where else are settings which i should compare?20:27
TheNH813Forget my kernel problem! Il just not update it from 3.220:28
TheNH813Stupid Nvidia drivers not liking over 3.4..... AAAAGH!!20:29
TheNH813Anyone know if there are patches Nvidia 96 series drivers so they work on 3.15?20:30
TheNH813Yes, I do have  a legacy GPU in addition to a newer one. Maybe il just buy a new one.20:32
terminal_Quick question.. when I plug in my android phone, I can browse the pictures, but do not get thumbnails in the filebrowser. Is there a way to enable this?20:33
TheNH813terminal_: What os, and file browser.20:34
terminal_O.o.. well.. Ubuntu 14.0420:34
terminal_using Files20:34
TheNH813terminal_: Nautilus (default) Thunar of PCManFM?20:35
TheNH813or other20:35
rwwFiles = Nautilus20:36
terminal_TheNH813: the default for 14.04 Unity. Which just says "Files" when I look at the about dialog.20:36
terminal_Ah, well then nautilus20:36
thumbdriveanybody know if it's possible to boot ubuntu from a thumb drive, set the kernel option to load everything in the ram, and then install ubuntu as a full installation on the same thumb drive?20:36
TheNH813Ok, didnt know the name changed.20:36
TheNH813thumbdrive: You could multipartition it if its big enough. Only OS I know that does that is Puppy Linux and Slax.20:37
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thumbdriveTheNH813: ah, okay.  thanks20:37
TheNH813terminal_: I think its in edit>preferences, Unless its not supported. or maybe View>thumbnails. Im on 12.04 and never tried 14.x20:38
terminal_got it20:39
terminal_preview > Always20:39
terminal_thanks20:39
TheNH813I am nostalgic for the old 10.10 "Super OS" though, it was SOOOOOO awsome and had Realplayer for Linux. (Spamless unlike the windows version) Such memories of my first Linux :).20:39
TheNH813terminal_: Glad you got it working.20:40
blzHello, I just upgraded to 14.04 from 12.04 and my xserver configuration is shot.   I've tried resinstalling/reconfiguring the xserver (`sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xort`) and reinstalling `nvidia-current`.  I'm now getting this rather cryptic output when I try to launch xbmc over ssh:  http://hastebin.com/hevemubasa.vhdl20:41
blzCan anybody help me diagnose this?20:41
TheNH813blz: If its get a REALLY new kernel the NV drivers might not be compatable.20:41
TheNH813Which would really suck, you may just need to reinstall thiem.20:41
blzTheNH813, i'm running 3.8.0-41-generic20:42
TheNH813blz: Il check the compatability. What driver version? I just need the base number like 173 or 223 etc.20:42
blzTheNH813, thanks!  it's 30420:43
blzTheNH813, but I have nothing against installing a more recent version... I may need someone to point me in the right direction, though =)20:43
OerHeksblz, update first, current kernel is  3.13.0-30-generic #5520:43
OerHeks sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade20:44
TheNH813I thought the current kernel was 3.15?20:44
Bashing-omblz: Humm .. release 14.04 is running kernel 3.13.0-30-generic, what gives tht you are still on " blz> TheNH813, i'm running 3.8.0-41-generic" ??20:44
blzOerHeks, I did update... several times20:44
OerHeksTheNH813, maybe on kernel org, not in the repos20:44
OerHeks(yet)20:45
blzBashing-om, good question. I just updated from 12.04 and did an apt-get upgrade20:45
OerHeksblz, upgrade may be not sufficient, try dist-upgrade20:45
Bashing-omblz: Try OerHeks's advise, see what results.20:45
blzOerHeks, nope. nothing20:46
TheNH813blz: Hm.... are you sing a repo mirror that is somehow not up to date?20:46
TheNH813Sorry fingers slipped on the keys.20:47
blzTheNH813, how would I check?20:47
blzIs this in sources.list?20:47
TheNH813Yes.20:47
TheNH813If yo didnt change, it shouldnt be a mirror.20:47
blzTheNH813, http://hastebin.com/iluwolinub.txt20:48
cloudedfishso I'm in need of some help20:48
cloudedfishI've got a ubuntu server installed on an HP proliant20:48
TheNH813blz: Looks good, unmodified sources,20:49
cloudedfishand I've never been able to boot into ubuntu20:49
blzTheNH813, good, so I'm not crazy =)20:49
TheNH813cloudedfish: What error specifically? Kernel panic or other?20:49
TJ-blz: Did you have the Precise HardWare Enablement packages installed?20:49
cloudedfishOnce I boot from my C drive, I get the following error "Input Signal Out Of Range"20:49
blzTJ-,  no, that's what drove me to upgrade to 14.0420:49
TheNH813cloudedfish: The vidoe res is set to high.20:49
cloudedfishhow do I change that?20:50
TheNH813I do not know if you are unable to see the screen. Does the live CD work?20:50
blzTJ-, to be more exact, I got a warning concerning the PHE, and according to the ubuntu documentation, upgrading was a viable fix20:50
TJ-blz: ahh, OK, you must have the "linux-lts-raring" package then20:50
TheNH813blz: Are you x86 or x64? I can give a link to latest drivers.20:51
blzTJ-, hmm it's not showing up when I do aptitude search linux-lts-raring20:51
blzTheNH813, x6420:51
cloudedfishTheNH813: the Live CD works fine, it's when I boot without in in my drive that I get this error20:51
Guest87026I have /etc/init.d script that won't stop20:51
blzTheNH813, hwo do you mean "a link to the latest drivers" ?20:52
TheNH813blz: This: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/340.24/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.24.run20:52
Guest87026can someone help me20:52
TJ-blz: The kernel version in your log is from that package: see http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/linux-image-3.8.0-41-generic20:52
TheNH813Uninstall the cirrent driver (if possible) and run the .run file with "sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.24.run"20:53
Bashing-om!ask Guest8702620:53
TheNH813If you have GCC and kernel headers it will compile and load the latest driver after a reboot.20:53
TJ-blz: If you've done a release-upgrade "lsb_release -r" should show you're using "14.04"20:53
Guest87026I have /etc/init.d script that won't stop20:53
blzTJ-, indeed it does, as expected20:54
TheNH813blz: Download this: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/340.24/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.24.run Uninstall the current driver and run the .run file with "sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.24.run"20:54
PerdouilleHello !20:54
blzTheNH813, ok will do20:54
PerdouilleI got a problem, and the french channel seems dead :/20:54
TheNH813b;z: IT will automatically set it as default and configure X for you.20:55
TheNH813blz: IT will automatically set it as default and configure X for you.20:55
blzTheNH813, wonderful =)20:55
Guest87026I have /etc/init.d script that won't stop. now my computer won't. start. how do I fix it?20:56
PerdouilleMy grub "killed himself" last reboot: It was working great before, I didn't tweaked it or something. One of my dual screen was black ,so I rebooted with "sudo reboot" and now the only thing I get is a "_" blinking20:56
TheNH813blz: Your welcome. You do have to run it from text mode though.20:56
blzTheNH813, right of course.  Fear not, I'm quite comfortable withthe command line ;)20:56
TJ-blz: check which kernels are installed "dpkg -l linux-image* | grep ^ii"20:56
TheNH813blz: Ok, just making sure.20:56
geirhaPerdouille: check if you have any external drives connected, like a usb drive, or maybe a dvd in your dvd-drive. It might be trying to boot one of those instead20:56
blzTheNH813, oh you're absolutely right to double-check!20:57
PerdouilleI tried geirha, I connected nothing more than the last time, when it was working20:57
PerdouilleWhen I press shift at boot, sometime I got a "GRUB" before the blinking "_"20:57
blzTJ-, I'm getting exactly one line of output:  ii  linux-image-3.8.0-41-generic          3.8.0-41.60~precise1                   amd64        Linux kernel image for version 3.8.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP20:57
PerdouilleI'm on a livecd right now, how can I know where grub is installed ?20:58
geirhaPerdouille: sounds like grub is installed, but that it fails to boot the linux kernel for some reason20:58
Perdouillemaybe an update or something20:59
TJ-blz: It looks as if, since "linux-lts-raring" kernel package was installed in Precise, the kernel packages haven't been updated to Trusty's defaults. I'm not sure if that is intentional or a bug20:59
blzTheNH813, I'm getting an error about an x server already running.  How does one halt the x server?20:59
blzTJ-, hmm. what should I do?20:59
TheNH813blz: Reboot witht he option text after quiet splash.20:59
edwardswalguien habla español21:00
geirhaPerdouille: when you do manage to get the grub menu up, are you able to choose older kernel versions?21:00
rwwubottu: es | edwardsw21:00
ubottuedwardsw: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:00
blzTheNH813, is there a way to do that from an ssh session?  I don't have physical access to this machine21:00
PerdouilleThere isn't any menu21:00
Perdouilleit's blinking before the menu21:00
TheNH813blz: Like this ...quiet splash text21:00
geirhaPerdouille: Ok, then I don21:00
TheNH813blz: ssh? Thats not good, if you reboot you will lose ssh.21:00
TheNH813blz: Try killall xorg.21:00
blzright. up until now I was just starting a new ssh session every time I had to reboot21:01
blzthat shouldn't be a problem21:01
geirhaPerdouille: Ok, then I don't understand what you mean by "sometime I got a GRUB before the blinking"21:01
blzTheNH813, or no?21:01
TheNH813blz: Edit grub.cfg to have text after the rest.21:01
PerdouilleSorry for my bad english ^^21:01
bpromptPerdouille:     what are you looking for again?21:01
PerdouilleThere is written "GRUB"21:01
Perdouilleand the _ blinking next to it21:01
TJ-blz: Well, the error(s) you're seeing point to an update that didn't fully complete, so if it were me I'd want to get to the bottom of that and fix it, before trying to manually workaround the immediate errors21:01
TheNH813blz: Open /boot/grub/grub.cfg, find the kernel options and add text. This will disable X for next boot.21:02
geirhaPerdouille: hm, odd. Well, you could try reinstalling grub. You can do that from the live session21:02
Perdouillebprompt: My grub "killed himself" last reboot: It was working great before, I didn't tweaked it or something. One of my dual screen was black ,so I rebooted with "sudo reboot" and now the only thing I get is a "_" blinking21:02
TheNH813blz: or /etc/default/grub and change CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFALUT and append text. Run update grub and reboot. You will have to reverse this to reenable X.21:02
blzTJ-, ok fair enough. any ideas on how to get to the bottom of it?  I'm a bit overwhelmed21:03
TheNH813blz: Add text tot he end fo that line/.21:03
geirha!grub | Perdouille21:03
ubottuPerdouille: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub221:03
Perdouillegeirha: I tried with a tool on the wiki, but it isn't working21:03
blzTheNH813, will do21:03
PerdouilleThe problem is that I don't know where is grub21:03
Perdouillehow can I know ?21:03
TJ-blz: first thing would be to review the release-upgrade log-files. I seen to recall they are usually at "/var/log/release-upgrade" or "/var/log/dist-upgrade"21:03
bpromptPerdouille:      ok... tried getting in Safe Mode yet?     holding shift-key while booting up21:03
geirhaPerdouille: Hm, I'm starting to suspect hardware issues. Is this a stationary computer? maybe a cable has come slightly loose21:04
PerdouilleYes, it prompt 'GRUB' then the blinking "_" bprompt21:04
bprompthmmm21:04
Perdouillegeirha: It's my own computer, I'm on it with a liveCD right now, and windows (8.1) is working great21:04
bpromptPerdouille:     you're on livecd right now, right?   do you know where the linux partition is at?    sudo fdisk -l <-- should list it21:05
blzTJ-, hmm not much of interest in there...21:05
PerdouilleI found with GParted, the Linux partition is at /dev/sdc221:06
blzTJ-, although apt.log is complaining about a bunch of broken packages. coudl that be relevant?21:06
TJ-blz: a long time since I did one and needed to check, but I do recall there was copious logging.21:06
TJ-blz: Anything related to incorrect packages, versions, missing libraries, would be relevant21:06
Perdouilleand I have a "Bios_Grub" partition at /dev/sda1, but it's maybe a "fake" one (when I tried to reinstall it)21:06
blzTJ-,  ok let me pastebin that, then =)21:06
TheNH813blz: DEFINITELY. That means somthing was installed that killed something else.21:06
blzTJ-, TheNH813:  http://hastebin.com/oquvizurot.xml21:07
blzIf you read from the bottom, there are broken packages everywhere21:08
bpromptPerdouille:         have you done a chroot grub update yet?21:09
Perdouillebprompt: How do I do that ?21:09
bpromptPerdouille:     http://pastie.org/938661521:11
electricprismdoes anyone know of any windows programs that watch a program as it installs so I can extract the registry and files to wine?21:13
Perdouillebprompt: "mount: can't find /mnt/dev in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"21:13
PerdouilleI continue ?21:13
bpromptPerdouille:    meaning you haven't mounted teh linux partition yet21:13
TJ-blz: is there also a "/var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log" ?21:14
Bashing-ombprompt: Perdouille :: Dont think we want to do that (MSDOS) as Perdouille is running win* -> GPT partitioning -> UEFI -> EFI boot partition.21:14
blzTJ-, yes, I was just looking through that21:14
blzlet me pastebin it for you21:14
TJ-electricprism: Yes, SystemInternals ProcessMonitor - combines the old process, registry, and I/O monitors21:15
blzTJ-, http://hastebin.com/fewozutote.vhdl21:15
TJ-electricprism: see http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/sysinternals/bb89664521:15
Perdouillebprompt: /dev/sdc2 is mounted to /mnt, and /proc is mounted in /mnt/proc21:16
PerdouilleBut I can't mount /dev21:16
Perdouilleaaah nevermind, bad command :D21:16
bpromptPerdouille:     was wondering on the caveat from Bashing-om21:17
PerdouilleI don't use grub to boot windows if that can help21:17
TJ-blz: this may relate to the graphics driver issue: "INFO no old nvidia driver installed, installing no new"21:17
PerdouilleI select the drive directly in bios21:17
bpromptBashing-om:   any drawbacks on a gpt partition?21:17
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blzTJ-, hmm, but shouldn't reinstalling nvidia drivers solve taht?21:18
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Perdouillebprompt: http://pastie.org/938664821:18
Bashing-ombprompt: Perdouille ;; I am not the smartest , and do not have UEFI experience, BUT I do know that if the hard disk is GPT, that requires a separate efi boot partition, Installing grub to sda is for the legacy partitioning scheme and does not apply for GPT/UEFI.21:19
bpromptPerdouille:      hmmm I think you may also have to mound /sys yes... -> sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys21:19
Guido1why do i need a pasword if i want to acces a folder wooth windows which is shared bu xubuntu?21:20
blzGuido1, how are you sharing the folder?21:20
Guido1blz: with samba21:21
PerdouilleWindows is installed in /dev/sdb iirc, and /dev/sda is my SSD full of games, grub seems to be installed in it21:21
Guido1blz: and as shared source21:21
Perdouillebprompt: http://pastie.org/938666521:22
blzGuido1, maybe you need to enable anonymous access?  It's been a while since I toyed with samba but permissions are a bit tricky, as I recall21:22
bpromptPerdouille:     right, for your case it'll be /dev/sdc    but I can see what Bashing-om  means... gtp scheme uses a whole partition area for storing bootable code and tables... while MBR doesn't....21:22
Guido1blz: the strange thing is that i have two laptops with the same samba configuration, but only one needs a pasword21:22
blzis one unix?21:23
Guido1blz: so i expect that the setting is somwhere behind the gui21:23
Guido1blz: i have shared folders on unix21:23
bpromptPerdouille:    well... my ealier paste used /dev/sda yes, for your case it'd be grub-install /dev/sdc    but.... hold one sec.     I think Bashing-om  is right, it may not work for a gpt partition21:23
blzGuido1, yeah, /etc/samba/sbm.conf I believe21:23
blz*smb.conf21:23
TJ-blz: It should, but installing the proprietary driver requires a kernel module to be compiled and linked against the running/installed kernels (using the DKMS), so be aware you may face issues if the system's packages aren't correct. I suspect you can probably sort out the kernel issue by doing "sudo apt-get install linux-image" to pull in the default Trusty kernel21:24
Perdouillebprompt: Tried with /dev/sdc, same problem.21:24
PerdouilleAnd I'm not sure Linux is on a GPT partition, only windows21:24
PerdouilleI don't understand what's the problem :D21:24
Guido1blz: can i just coppy it from one linux to another?21:24
blzTJ-,  ok let's give that a shot =)21:24
Bashing-omPerdouille: If I may suggest, pastbinit the outputs of -> sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda , sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdb . sudo parted -l <- so we know what we are working with.21:24
blzGuido1, depends21:24
blzI'm really not sure21:24
PerdouilleI do the gdisk for every discs ?21:25
Perdouilleor only a and b ?21:25
Guido1blz: i will compare them21:25
Bashing-omPerdouille: Gdisk for each known disk ( parted -l will list all of them ) .21:25
PerdouilleI must type parted -l in the chroot ?21:29
PerdouilleOn the "real" livecd terminal it does nothing Bashing-om :/21:29
TheNH813blz: Sorry, had to leave for a few minutes. I looked at the logs you posted. Seems like a few broken packages and dead graphics drivers. Installing the ones I  linked will fix part fo the problem, apt-get install -f will fix the others.21:29
blzTheNH813, ok cool, thanks so much!  I'll get all that going as soon as I'm done pulling in the default Trusty kernel21:30
blzTJ-, seems you're onto something.  I just did21:30
PerdouilleAh it was sudo parted -l, i'm stupid :D21:30
mojtabaHi, I have added the command alias update='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' to .bashrc; but when typing update nothing happens. Should I do something else?21:31
blzTJ-, I just did `sudo apt-fast install linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic` and it seems like there are a few updates now21:31
Bashing-omPerdouille: I bet you will have to install "gdisk" . Terminal command -> sudo apt-get install gdisk <- .21:31
blzTJ-, scratch that. I'm an idiot.  Actually `uname -r` still reports 3.8.0-41 generic21:31
TheNH813blz: runupdate-grun to set the new kernel as default21:32
TheNH813*update-grub21:32
blzTheNH813, thanks!21:32
TheNH813blz: MAke sure to reboot.21:32
mojtabaHi, I have added the command alias update='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' to .bashrc; but when typing update nothing happens. Should I do something else?21:33
TheNH813mojtaba: Did you restart the terminal?21:33
rwwmojtaba: close and re-open your terminal, or run source ~/.bashrc21:33
mojtabaTheNH813: rww: thanks21:34
TheNH813mojtaba: You welcome.21:34
TheNH813*your21:34
rww*you're21:34
TheNH813Haha I guess you are right. Forgot the mark.21:35
TheNH813I have to go now, bye!21:37
PerdouilleBashing-om: bprompt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7790974/21:37
TheNH813Have a nice day.21:37
Bashing-omPerdouille: looking at your m/7790974/ .21:38
MonikaI have installed Eclipse 3.8.1 from the Ubuntu repos, which should also install the Java dev tools, and eclipse-jdt and the JDK were also intalled as dependencies, but still I don't have a Java perspective, Java projects are not in the list of new projects etc. How can I add the Java functionality?21:39
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Bashing-omPerdouille: This is above my skill level. Frive sdc is indeed with a linux install, but no EFI boot partition for GPT partitioning. And as well sde: -> Found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format21:50
Bashing-omin memory.21:50
PerdouilleDo you know where grub is installed Bashing-om ?21:51
Bashing-omPerdouille: I really do not know how to fix the booting situation. For sdc, I have to assume grub is installed as MBR ( Master Boot Record) to the head of the drive.// What results when you set in UEFI booting to boot from drive sdc ?21:52
PerdouilleI can't :/21:53
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PerdouilleIn my bios (UEFI ? ), I can boot windows, it's like : "UEFI: Windows boot blablabla"21:53
Perdouillebut for Linux, no "UEFI:***"21:53
PerdouilleMaybe I could just reinstall grub on /dev/sdc?21:54
Bashing-omPerdouille: I am confused, you have windows 8 installed ? .. Windows 8 is UEFI .. as to how the booting priority is set I can not advise, but there must be a way to set the booting priority order.21:55
PerdouilleI have windows 8 on /dev/sdb, and Linux on /dev/sdc21:55
PerdouilleTo start Windows, I used to change the boot order every time (it's quickly done on my system)21:56
Perdouilleso I don't use grub to start Windows21:56
TJ-Perdouille: I've just looked at your 'parted' pastebin. My reading of it is that /dev/sdb2 is the EFI ESP which the firmware should be reading the EFI boot-managers from21:56
borbitDelete windows 8. Delete linux. Go outside. ???. Win.21:56
Bashing-omPerdouille: True, as sdc has no efi boot partition, then in UEFI booting parameters is there a setting for something like "ccsm" to permit booting in a legacy mode ?21:57
TJ-Perdouille: In order to have Linux added to the system's EFI boot manager menu, you'd need to ensure "grub-efi" is installed to the Linux system, tell grub to install to /dev/sdb2, and possibly manually use "efibootmgr" to add the Ubuntu entry to the firmware boot meny21:57
PerdouilleI don't know, I just select the linux hard drive on bios, and it boot on it21:58
PerdouilleLet's do like windows 8 doesn't exist on my system, how can I reinstall grub ?21:58
TJ-Perdouille: the "bios_grub" flag on /dev/sda1 could be a "grub-pc" legacy boot partition21:59
PerdouilleSo I go on the chroot, I do "sudo grub-install /dev/sda1" ?22:00
TJ-Perdouille: Do you want to continue with a mixed boot environment (EFI and Legacy) or do you want to make it all EFI?22:00
PerdouilleI don't really care if it's mixed or not, it was working great before ^^22:00
PerdouilleI may reinstall everything during summer, so mixed will do the job until22:01
Perdouille(sorry for my bad english again ^^)22:01
TJ-Perdouille: so you've mounted the rootfs and associated file-system into "/mnt/" so you can do a chroot into it?22:03
PerdouilleI mounted the / of my linux installation, proc, dev and sys22:04
Perdouille(like bprompt told me to do ( http://pastie.org/9386615#4-6 ) )22:04
TJ-Perdouille: OK, I've got a 'tail' running on your comments since you joined this channel so I'm just double-checking what I'm reading there :)22:04
mojtabaHi, I am using currently ubuntu 14.04 LTS on an old laptop; I have installed several apps on my system. I am going to buy a new laptop and I just wonder if there is a way to install all my apps automatically on a new laptop or transfer them?!22:05
TJ-Perdouille: The first thing is to determine, for sure, which boot method the Linux install is using, legacy (-pc) or UEFI (EFI). If you do "dpkg -l grub* | grep ^ii" you should see a list of the installe grub packages. If you see only "grub-pc" it is a 'legacy BIOS' install, if you see "grub-efi" it is, obviously, UEFI"22:06
bpromptTJ-:     he lost his grub, at boot it lands at a grub> _ < -- prompt, but his linux partition /dev/sdc2   is GPT, thus I think my solution may not work22:06
PerdouilleI got : grub-common. grub-efi-amd64, grub-efi-amd64-bin, grub-efi,amd64-signed and grub2-common22:07
Perdouillebut it's maybe the "boot repair" thing that did the efi things22:07
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TJ-bprompt: It looks to me as if when Perdouille chooses to start Linux by selecting the "SAMSUNG SSD 830" 'sda', CSM does sda[MBR]->sda1->sdc222:08
bpromptTJ-:    that may work...  but I think sda is not bootable, just data in it22:09
TJ-Perdouille: OK, that would explain why grub fails to boot now, if it was previously using grub-pc - all those files that the sda[MBR]->sda2 code relies upon, has been uninstalled22:09
PerdouilleI select to start linux with the /dev/sdc on my bios (WD20EZRX-00D)22:09
Perdouillethe /dev/sda thing is maybe due to the boot-repair thing again :/22:10
mojtabaHi, I am using currently ubuntu 14.04 LTS on an old laptop; I have installed several apps on my system. I am going to buy a new laptop and I just wonder if there is a way to install all my apps automatically on a new laptop or transfer them?!22:10
aaascan someone tell me what your permissions are for /var/log?  i have zabbix logs in there now, which are read by the zabbix server which is executed by the zabbix user, but somehow my /var/log changed from 755.  I'm wondeirng if having 755 is bad practice22:10
TJ-bprompt: sda has a GRUB bios_grub partition for the core image since it is a GPT disk, but from what Perdouille has just told us about the installed EFI packages that won't be used.22:11
TJ-Perdouille: give me a moment to check the grub-install command line you need to ensure a correct EFI installation, that should be sufficient to get it to start22:12
bpromptTJ-:   hmm   I see.. so a grub-install /dev/sda   will actually suffice?22:12
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mojtabaIs there any way to transfer all the installed applications from one system to a new system?22:14
TJ-bprompt: No, it won't, that is for a legacy BIOS installation used by "grub-pc", but Perdouille's system now has only the "grub-efi" libraries22:14
Perdouillecan't i just reinstall grub-pc ?22:15
TJ-Perdouille: can you check whether, in your chroot mount, you have /dev/sdb2 mounted to /boot/efi/ ?22:16
Bashing-ommojtaba: How about : dpkg --get-selections will dump a list of all packages you have installed, so you can use dpkg --set-selections to reinstall them all later .22:16
Perdouille /boot/efi is empty22:16
mojtabaBashing-om: Will I have all the configurations as well?22:17
TJ-Perdouille: There is no "just" now ... Linux is currently configured to use EFI so the best thing is to simply ensure it is installed correctly so you can use it that way. Switching back to the Legacy BIOS install might further complicate the repair operation22:17
TJ-Perdouille: As I thought it would be. OK. Enter the chroot first with "sudo chroot /mnt/" then you can do "mount /dev/sdb2 /boot/efi/"22:17
PerdouilleI did that, still empty22:18
PerdouilleAre you sure that linux is configured to use EFI, and it's not because of the boot-repair tool ?22:18
TJ-Perdouille: Are you able to pastebin the output of "cat /proc/mounts" from within the chroot?22:18
Perdouillehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7791113/22:19
TJ-Perdouille: From what you've shown us so far, Linux is not configured to boot using either, but right now it has the EFI boot package installed so as it is an UEFI system it makes sense to simply ensure that works as intended22:19
Bashing-ommojtaba: I do not think so .. just the packages, I think.22:20
mjayklsblk22:20
TJ-Perdouille: OK, that pastebin looks good. Now, can you pastebin the output of "ls -altr /boot/efi/" from within the chroot?22:20
Perdouillehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7791118/22:21
TJ-Perdouille: Great :) ... and now, pastebin the result of "find /boot/efi" so we can see all the files and directories currently installed in the EFI System Partition22:22
Perdouillehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7791123/22:23
PerdouilleI just hope it wont break my windows 8 installation ^^22:23
bulletrulzi have a older moniter and i the highest res on it is 640x400 ik low but is there anyway i can force my laptop to display that so i can see it on the tv?22:25
TJ-Perdouille: OK, that looks good. We can see all the Microsoft Windows boot manager files but no Ubuntu files (installed by grub)22:25
Bashing-ommojtaba: Found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366 <- along the same lines for pkg --get-selections -> etc ect.22:27
TJ-Perdouille: OK, now let us check if the current live environment is using EFI or not. If not, the tools cannot directly add a menu entry to the motherboard's EFI boot menu22:27
PerdouilleHow do I do that ?22:27
TJ-Perdouille: show me the result of "find /sys/class/firmware"22:28
Perdouillehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7791139/22:28
mojtabaBashing-om: thanks22:30
pascalhi22:31
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TJ-Perdouille: OK, the system is booted in legacy BIOS mode so it can't access the EFI variables of the firmware. That means you'll have to repair in several steps. 1) ensure grub-efi is correctly installed using "grub-install --efi-directory=..." (in a moment or two), 2) install an EFI shell, 3) reboot and use the new EFI shell to boot Linux once 4) From the EFI booted Linux, use "efibootmgr" to permanently add Ubuntu to the system's UEFI boot menu alongside Windows.22:32
PerdouilleI got an efi shell iirc, I can boot it in my UEFI22:33
Guest39477hello I have a Problem to mount a 4TB big  NTFS disk22:34
TJ-Perdouille: You do? is a limited shell or fully operational? Many firmware-supplied shells have key commands missing from them, preventing things like altering the boot menu, booting other boot managers, etc.22:34
PerdouilleI don't know if it's limited or fully operationnal22:35
TJ-Perdouille: To save time I usually install the full unlimited shell by doing "wget -O /boot/efi/shellx64.efi https://svn.code.sf.net/p/edk2/code/trunk/edk2/ShellBinPkg/UefiShell/X64/Shell.efi"22:36
PerdouilleI don't have internet in my chroot :/22:36
PerdouilleAh22:36
TJ-Perdouille: That command downloads from the Sourceforge Tianocore project22:36
PerdouilleI can't ping google.fr, but I can ping 8.8.8.822:36
PerdouilleI don't remember the command to fix this22:37
TJ-Perdouille: OK, you didn't bind-mount "/etc/resolv.conf" ... so just do "echo "nameserver 127.0.1.1 > /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf" and that *should* allow the chroot to use the system's dnsmasq resolver22:38
TJ-Perdouille: typo! "echo "nameserver 127.0.1.1" > /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf"22:38
PerdouilleIt's working22:39
TJ-Perdouille: :)22:39
PerdouilleI got the EFI shell22:39
PerdouilleWhat do I do next ?22:39
TJ-Perdouille: You wrote it directly to "/boot/efi/" as I showed in that command?22:40
Perdouilleyes22:40
PerdouilleI did the wget command22:40
Perdouilleshellx64.efi is now in /boot/efi/22:40
TJ-Perdouille: That's good - it means if the firmware's shell is limited you can use the full shell from the limited shell simply by typing "/shellx64.efi" at the (limited) shell's command-line22:41
Guido1Iḿ still strugling with samba. I found out that it can have to do something with lanman. Linux can open shared folders omn windows 95 and 98, but if i want to open a shared folder with 95 iḿ asked to enter a pasword which i didn set.22:41
TJ-Perdouille: Call it insurance :)22:41
PerdouilleOkay22:41
PerdouilleNow, I must do the grub-install --efi-directory=... part, right ?22:41
TJ-Perdouille: OK, next step is to correctly install grub as EFI... I need to double-check the command we need here, so give me a couple of minutes22:41
PerdouilleOkay !22:42
Perdouille(Thanks for the time you are dedicating to help me correct my mistakes :D )22:42
TJ-Perdouille: I *think* "grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi" might be sufficient for you, but I seem to recall discovering it needs a little extra to work correctly. The main issue here is that grub-install will try to use "efibootmgr" to add Ubuntu to the firmware boot menu but it can't right now, since the system isn't in EFI mode. That might lead to an error we need to workaround to ensure grub's libraries are fully installed. That's what I'm checking on now.22:45
PerdouilleTJ-: It say that /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh  doesn't exist22:45
bulletrulzhello/22:45
TJ-Perdouille: Ouch! That suggests it is stuck in a half-way config between legacy BIOS and EFI.22:46
TJ-Perdouille: I seen to recall I solved that simply by uninstalling/purging all the grub packages and then installing just the EFI packages. Let me check my notes22:47
Guest39477is there a way to mount a 4TB big NTFS disk under linux?22:49
TJ-Perdouille: I think our easiest approach is to let the GRUB packages do the install automatically for us, by removing the existing packages and reinstalling22:50
TJ-Perdouille: Can you do "dpkg -l grub* | grep ^ii | pastebinit" and tell me the URL22:51
Perdouillehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7791210/22:51
Perdouille(pastebinit is awesome, thanks :D )22:51
SupaYoshidoes anybody know how to tell samba that the default group and file owner should be a a group?22:52
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TJ-Perdouille: I want to see the entire message you saw, to figure out where it is referencing that "i386-pc" file from ... can you do "grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi --verbose 2>&1 | pastebinit"22:55
Perdouillegrub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi --verbose 2>&1 | pastebinit"22:55
Perdouillefail, sorry :D22:55
TJ-;p22:55
Perdouillehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7791226/22:55
TJ-Perdouille: OK, I thought so - we need to specify the --target22:56
cdwillishello world!22:58
PerdouilleHow do I do ?22:59
TJ-Perdouille: Let's try this: "grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=Ubuntu --recheck --debug 2>&1 | tee /tmp/grub-install-efi.log" and then you can do "pastebinit /tmp/grub-install-efi.log"23:00
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editioni have a problem with ALSA and qjackctl23:00
editionit says: ""/org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio0": A handler is already registered for /org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio0"23:01
Perdouilleseems to work (It said the installation was finished, without any errors)23:01
Perdouillehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7791240/23:01
TJ-Perdouille: Yay :D23:01
PerdouilleI didn't "LC_ALL=C" before the command, so the last message is in french ^^23:01
editionJack worked fine with Qsynth, until Mixxx was installed...23:02
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TJ-Perdouille: You see the ending "Fatal: Couldn't open either sysfs or procfs directories for accessing EFI variables" ... that's because the system is in legacy mode, so everything is good except the firmware boot menu entry.23:02
PerdouilleAh23:03
TJ-Perdouille: To be sure, you should now do an "update-grub" to ensure the grub.cfg is correct, too23:03
Perdouilledone23:03
editionany ideas?23:03
PerdouilleNow ?23:03
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Perdouille( edition: tried to reboot ?)23:04
editionyes23:04
editionthree times23:04
Perdouille(That's the only thing I can say to you, sorry :D )23:04
editionwent to default settings. haven't touched anything.23:04
editionsome application is stealing Audio023:04
TJ-Perdouille: After this, you should reboot the system to the EFI shell, and then try manually starting the grub EFI shim by typing "/EFI/Ubuntu/grubx64.efi", or, it might be the slashes need reversing as in "\EFI\Ubuntu\grubx64.efi"23:04
editionand preventing Jack from using it23:04
TJ-Perdouille: If that works, it'll boot Ubuntu in EFI mode and we can finish off by adding the boot menu entry for Ubuntu correctly23:05
editionok. how to disable xubuntu session selector?23:06
PerdouilleSo: I reboot, I go to the EFI shell ( ./shellx86.efi in the motherboard shell), I type /EFI/Ubuntu/grubx64.efi (or \...), and I come back ?23:06
Perdouilleshellx64, sorry23:06
TJ-Perdouille: Yes... I think that is correct... It is such a long time since I worked that deep in UEFI boot shell I can't remember  the precise commands - I do recall the full shell has great help though, if you type something like "?" and also "<somecommand> ?"23:07
PerdouilleSo let's try it, thanks :)23:07
TJ-Perdouille: Good luck :) I'll go make a drink and await your return23:08
PerdouilleThanks !23:08
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Perd0uilleTJ-: !23:11
Perd0uilleIt's working !23:11
Perd0uilleBut not the way you told me23:11
Perd0uilleIt's weird, but it got fixed with the commands you told me to type on the liveUSB23:12
RedPenguinhey all23:12
RedPenguinI am heloping a friend with a Ubuntu 12.04.1 system running an fglrx-legacy and everything is fine, HDMI audio/video, yet on fast motion the video slightly jerks, anything we can do?23:12
Perd0uilleI had a new "Ubuntu" thing I was able to boot on23:12
Perd0uilleand it's working23:12
RedPenguinRunning Radeon 3000/RS78023:12
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TJ-Perd0uille: Fantastic!23:13
Perd0uilleThanks a lot !23:14
TJ-Perd0uille: probably the "Ubuntu" menu was installed by the boot-repair23:14
TJ-Perd0uille: You're welcome. You can re-use that /dev/sda1 (bios_grub) partition now... and it might be a good idea to erase the grub MBR on /dev/sda to prevent the system even attempting a legacy boot that would get stuck23:15
Perd0uilleI'll do it, thanks a lot23:15
Perd0uilleI'll go to sleep now, I'm tired23:16
Perd0uilleThanks again TJ- for the time you dedicated to help me23:17
Perd0uille(And sorry for my bad english)23:17
Perd0uilleI was going to reinstall everything :D23:17
TJ-Perd0uille: Don't apologise, your English was better than my French.. and better than many of my English friends!23:18
xteejxbzr bd -S    keeps telling me it can't sign using someone elses key...how do I tell it NOT to sign the source package and dsc?23:19
Perd0uilleI have to go, goodbye !23:19
Perd0uilleAnd thanks everyone who helped me (I can't find your nicknames, too much people in this channel :D )23:20
xteejxseriously? does no-one use ubuntu anymore? 1-2 years ago you couldn't move for the scrolling of the window with people :(23:21
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editionstill have issues with Jack :(23:25
editioni give up23:25
RedPenguinOh looks like we got somewhere, looks like the Refresh Rate may have been set wrong by defaul23:26
editionJack is annoying23:32
cemotyz09h23:34
Ali_M_Ahmedhello guys, is there any program show me the property software that i am installed into my ubuntu ?23:36
editionppa23:37
editionthe keyword here is "non free"23:37
editionthats usually proprietry software23:37
editionie: flash player23:38
Ali_M_Ahmedohhh OK :D.  So i do not need any program to do so ?23:38
editioni suppose23:38
editionwhy?23:38
Ali_M_AhmedI heard that there is program shows you ALL your proprietry software, Is that correct ?23:39
SchrodingersScat!info vrms | Ali_M_Ahmed23:39
ubottuAli_M_Ahmed: vrms (source: vrms): virtual Richard M. Stallman. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.16 (trusty), package size 11 kB, installed size 77 kB23:39
Ali_M_Ahmed!info vrms | Ali_M_Ahmed23:40
ubottuAli_M_Ahmed: vrms (source: vrms): virtual Richard M. Stallman. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.16 (trusty), package size 11 kB, installed size 77 kB23:40
SchrodingersScatAli_M_Ahmed: try: apt-cache show vrms23:40
Ali_M_AhmedOhhhh ok :D23:40
Ali_M_AhmedThanks alll :D23:40
SchrodingersScatAli_M_Ahmed: yep, welcome23:41
editionis there a channel for Jack and/or audio setup?23:42
daftykinsdoubt it23:42
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editionJack is still annoying :/23:48
editionhas anyone had issues with either QJackCtl or Jack itself?23:49
SchrodingersScatedition: I've never convinced jack to do anything, it decides to do or not do on its own.23:52
edition:/23:52
editionreally?23:52
SchrodingersScatedition: feels like it23:53
editioni just want to play my MIDI keyboard through QSynth.23:53
editionJack is why we cant have nice things.23:53
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Guest65691Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me after a i made a ubuntu live usb for a friend the usb has become read only. I made the live usb using dd. I have tried using gparted to fix it, but it will not work. Any help is appreciated.23:59

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