[07:43] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:22] <Borsi> shouldnt the mesa files be updated on 14.04?
[09:22] <Borsi> i tried the drivers and i got only 2.1 opengl on 7870, 10.1.3
[09:24] <lordievader> Err, this is #ubuntu+1, i.e. 14.10. See #ubuntu for Trusty support.
[09:31] <Borsi> is it possible to upgrade 14.04 --> 14.10 via ppa?
[09:33] <lordievader> Borsi: For as far as I know, no. Either get the iso or run "sudo do-release-upgrade -d".
[09:33] <Borsi> yes that seems to work
[09:35] <lordievader> Borsi: You do know the implications of running a development version of Ubuntu, right?
[09:35] <Borsi> done that before
[09:39] <Borsi> huge amount of updates, around 1400 packages
[09:39] <lordievader> That is to be expected.
[09:40] <lordievader> Even though you've done this before: expect breakage!
[09:42] <Borsi> bugs that are on ealier versions of ubuntu, what happens to them when new version comes? are there bugs that never got fixed
[09:43] <lordievader> Read the bug reports.
[10:37] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[19:08] <phillw> Hi folks, I've been getting this for a few days now... http://pastebin.com/qDjq4zMV I'm used to partital updates, but it seems to be one of ipV4's that is 404 ?
[19:13] <ikonia> phillw: apt-get update
[19:14] <phillw> ikonia: done that, each day for the last 4 days
[19:14] <ikonia> have you looked on the server to see if the package is there
[19:15] <phillw> ikonia: I have a huge list from update that it has found and wants to install, but many lines of that ipV4 giving 404
[19:15] <ikonia> have you looked to see if the files it's 404'ing are on the server
[19:16] <phillw> is there to check if update is pulling in invisible applications?
[19:16] <ikonia> have you looked to see if the files it's 404'ing are on the server
[19:17] <rww> the heck is an invisible application
[19:17] <ikonia> I don't know
[19:17] <ikonia> I just want to know if the files are actually on the mirror thats being tried, and a random other mirror
[19:17] <phillw> rww / ikonia E: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/virt-manager/virtinst_1.0.1-0ubuntu2_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 194.169.254.10 80]
[19:18] <ikonia> you can keep repeating that
[19:18] <ikonia> but it doesn't change anything
[19:18] <ikonia> have you looked to see if the files it's 404'ing are on the server
[19:18] <phillw> is one such... update says it wants it, upgrade says it is not there... they cannot both be correct
[19:18] <ikonia> ok, bye
[19:18] <ikonia> can't be bothered
[19:19] <phillw> ditto
[19:24] <ikonia> for the record http://194.169.254.10/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/virt-manager/ is out of sync
[19:24] <ikonia> it has virtinst_1.0.1-0ubuntu1 all the other mirrors have virtinst_1.0.1-0ubuntu2
[20:51] <phillw> Quite amazing, and so, so co-incidential... after 4 - 5 days of mis match between update and upgrade, having come here and being told to 'go to hell and stop bothering me'.. it is now working as it should.... Heck, who'd have ever beleived it.
[20:52] <phillw> do have fun.