| fmarier | so did anybody upgrade successfully from 12.04 to 14.04 recently? | 03:36 |
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| ajmitch_ | yep | 03:37 |
| ajmitch_ | well, maybe a couple of months ago on my laptop | 03:37 |
| fmarier | ajmitch_: and you didn't run into anything major? | 03:37 |
| ibeardslee | only issue I really had was the apache2 configs | 03:38 |
| ajmitch_ | it seemed to work out alright | 03:38 |
| ajmitch_ | the only thing was I switched back to the free radeon driver before upgrading, iirc | 03:38 |
| fmarier | ibeardslee: yeah, i saw that upgrading from wheezy to jessie as well | 03:39 |
| ajmitch_ | since I knew fglrx wouldn't support it in 14.04 & the free driver is much better now | 03:39 |
| fmarier | my experience upgrading to 14.04 was truly miserable though | 03:39 |
| fmarier | i can no longer log into unity/gnome-shell/xfce :( | 03:39 |
| ajmitch_ | does X start at all? | 03:39 |
| fmarier | and i can't figure out where it's going wrong | 03:40 |
| fmarier | ajmitch_: yeah, X works fine. if i use kdm, i can get a gnome-terminal using the failsafe mode and then start gnome-shell from there | 03:40 |
| ajmitch_ | no weird permissions in $HOME ? | 03:40 |
| fmarier | however, if i log into a xfce/unity/gnome session directly, it accepts my password, blanks the screen, then goes right back to lightdm/gdm/kdm | 03:41 |
| fmarier | i tried creating a new user and it does the same thing | 03:41 |
| ajmitch_ | ~/.xsession-errors would usually help, I remember I'd have issues like that when the disk was full | 03:41 |
| fmarier | it's a truly frustrating bug | 03:41 |
| ajmitch_ | but I doubt the upgrade would have completed if that was the case | 03:42 |
| fmarier | yeah, my .xession-errors is bitching about an error in /usr/bin/lightdm-something but it's not exactly verbose | 03:42 |
| fmarier | it's also bitching about xmodmap not being able to find a file | 03:43 |
| fmarier | i'm wondering what actually gets run when lightdm starts a gnome or unity session | 03:43 |
| ajmitch_ | pastebin it | 03:43 |
| fmarier | ajmitch_: the error? | 03:44 |
| ajmitch_ | yeah, if you can | 03:44 |
| ajmitch_ | someone might have a clue :) | 03:45 |
| fmarier | i don't have that computer with me here and the upgrade apparently also broke fwknopd :( | 03:45 |
| ajmitch_ | ah | 03:45 |
| fmarier | though that's not surprising as it went from 1.x to 2.x, i probably need to redo its config | 03:45 |
| ibeardslee | hmm that sounds like a problem I'd seen with the .Xauthority file .. somehow root owned it, and the user couldn't write to it. | 04:19 |
| ajmitch_ | ibeardslee: yeah, hence me asking about weird permissions | 04:24 |
| ibeardslee | ahh, yeah. for some reason it was the only file that was 'mangled' | 04:26 |
| ajmitch_ | I couldn't remember which of the files it would have been | 04:29 |
| fmarier | ibeardslee: that (or a stray .xsession) is what i suspected, but create a brand new user account didn't help | 04:36 |
| fmarier | i wonder what's different between a kdm failsafe session and a normal one | 04:37 |
| fmarier | is trusty still using upstart or has it moved to systemd already? | 08:26 |
| fmarier | it looks like my session problems are due to the PATH not being set properly | 08:28 |
| fmarier | the error from ~/.xsession-errors: /usr/sbin/lightdm-session: 5: exec: init: not found | 08:29 |
| fmarier | with the full command line being: exec init --user | 08:29 |
| fmarier | where "init --user" is set by /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99upstart (which assumes that /sbin/ is in the path) | 08:30 |
| G | fmarier: I think it's still using upstart | 09:12 |
| G | no trusty boxes handy to be atm I don't think | 09:12 |
| G | oh wait, I updated this box... | 09:13 |
| G | I appear to have a mix of upstart and systemd on this box :S PID 1 is /sbin/init provided by 'upstart' (dpkg -S /sbin/init) though | 09:15 |
| fmarier | yeah, there are bits of systemd in 14.04, but apparently the full switch is scheduled for 16.04 (according to the interwebs at least) | 09:16 |
| G | 2016(!) oh I bet Lennout(sp?) is laughing at that :P | 09:17 |
| G | (I just happen to remember the way SystemD was pushed as the best next thing in Fedora/etc) | 09:18 |
| ibeardslee | morning | 20:09 |
| hads | morning | 20:11 |
| Atamira | morena | 20:19 |
| ajmitch_ | morning | 20:35 |
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