[00:01] <JasonO> histo,  I created an LVM partition and I can't find it
[00:01] <JasonO> *Hi
[00:02] <JasonO> This was from the Alternate Install CD
[00:04] <stef1a> what antivirus software 9fr
[00:05] <stef1a> what free antivirus software is good on ubuntu?
[00:05] <daftykins> !antivirus | stef1a
[00:05] <WillieBot> [ Antivirus - Community Help Wiki ] - help.ubuntu.com
[00:06] <edition> you know the purpose of opensource?
[00:06] <stef1a> edition: who are you speaking about
[00:07] <JasonO> I created an LVM partition and I can't find it. This was from  the alternate install CD. Can someone please help me?
[00:07] <edition> need help with jack!!!
[00:08] <daftykins> edition: at this stage it would make more sense for you to post to askubuntu.com or trawl forums for a response
[00:08] <edition> ok
[00:10] <psusi> JasonO, what do you mean exactly?
[00:11] <JasonO> psusi: During the install from the alternate CD I gave 100GB of disk space to LVM. It created a partition? And I can't find it.
[00:11] <stef1a> daftykins: ... really?
[00:11] <daftykins> stef1a: really you don't need AV? correct.
[00:12] <psusi> JasonO, still too vague to be understood
[00:13] <TJ-> JasonO: "sudo lvs" will list all found/known logical volumes. "sudo pvs" will list all physical volumes that host volume groups.
[00:14] <JasonO> TJ-: Thanks I've ran those but it doesn't help me know where the 100GB went to.
[00:14] <JasonO> psusi: That's all I can say.
[00:15] <JasonO> Also*
[00:15] <TJ-> JasonO: If you assigned 100GB to an LVM then it'll be contained in a PV
[00:15] <JasonO> My wireless in Trusty disconnects from time-to-time. It's been a major issue. Is there anyway to fix this?
[00:16] <JasonO> TJ-: Yeah but it doesn't show.
[00:16] <TJ-> JasonO: "sudo pvscan" might help, if "pvs" isn't reporting any PVs
[00:16] <JasonO> Thanks
[00:17] <TJ-> JasonO: Usually, on boot PVs and the VGs within them are auto-detected and device-mapper nodes created under "/dev/mapper/" and "/dev/$VG_NAME/" for each Logical Volume (LV). If there are no LVs then the DM nodes won't show up.
[00:18] <TJ-> JasonO: But even without any LVs defined, the partitions allocated to PVs will always show up for the "pv*" commands
[00:24] <edition> reinstalling Jack :/
[00:24] <SchrodingersScat> edition: good luck, it seems like I've had points where I was giving up, shutting everything down, and then the settings took :|
[00:25] <edition> the support for Jack is shocking
[00:25] <edition> too experimental
[00:34] <andygraybeal> is cheese still the awesome webcam photo taking app?  is there another foss webcam photo taking app that is better?
[00:34] <edition> VLC :)
[00:34] <edition> no
[00:34] <edition> better in terms of features?
[00:35] <andygraybeal> vlc does webcam pictures?
[00:36] <edition> no it does video streams
[00:36] <andygraybeal> i just need a simple camera app for my webcam on my laptop.. my lady took th ecamera
[00:36] <edition> use cheese.
[00:36] <andygraybeal> cool thanks!!!  i just hauled in a bunch of chantrelles
[00:36] <andygraybeal> and i want to brag about it
[00:37] <edition> why?
[00:37] <andygraybeal> cause i'm an attention hore
[00:37] <andygraybeal> and i'm excited the chantrelles are up
[00:38] <JuxTApose> does anyone here know the file size limit on windoze 8?  not 8.1, but 8....I'm transferring a 24gb file from linux to windoze 8 and it stops....
[00:38] <JuxTApose> my internet search results are worthless piles of misinformation, lol...
[00:38] <rww> JuxTApose: is it going to a FAT32 or NTFS filesystem?
[00:38] <JuxTApose> it's a brand new windoze 8 computer...
[00:39] <JuxTApose> so whatever the regular version of windoze 8 is....
[00:39] <rww> so NTFS
[00:39] <JuxTApose> articles keep saying it's that new FS, but that's only windoze 8 server....
[00:39] <rww> larger than any files you have, for sure
[00:39] <JuxTApose> not really...
[00:40] <rww> NTFS's maximum file size is a few hundred terabytes, so yes
[00:40] <JuxTApose> i record video and audio for live events and I can't use NTFS, it's file size limitation is too small...
[00:40] <JuxTApose> no, that's partition/addressable size rww, not single filesize
[00:40] <JuxTApose> i use exFAT for recording
[00:41] <rww> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff469400%28v=prot.20%29.aspx#id116
[00:41] <rww> Ctrl-F MaximumFileSize
[00:41] <trism>  Reflect the vector using the angle of incidence is the angle of reflection.
[00:41] <trism> sorry
[00:41] <rww> at any rate, it's higher than 24GB, so that's not the problem
[00:42] <rww> FAT32 is 4GB, hence me asking
[00:42] <JuxTApose> right...
[00:42] <JuxTApose> okies, thanks
[00:43] <JuxTApose> I need exact technical effective info on it...
[00:44] <rww> If you want help with NTFS's maximum file size, I guess ##windows would be a good place to ask (or read the documentation I linked). If you want help with why your file copy is stalling (which is unrelated to NTFS's maximum file size) under Ubuntu, here would be the place.
[00:45] <JuxTApose> thanks rww : )
[00:46] <JuxTApose> there is a windoze channel here?  lol...too funny
[00:46] <rww> with 490 people in it, even
[00:52] <JuxTApose> lol...
[00:52] <JuxTApose> they would have more if they spelled it ##windoze
[00:57] <axegrinder> hello
[01:13] <usuario> usuario
[01:13] <usuario> 123456
[01:14] <[[thufir]]> ll .ssh/known_hosts    shows some files.    are those my ssh keys?  I can ssh into digital ocean ok, but they're not named "key".    http://pastebin.com/1Td5tUus
[01:14] <rww> [[thufir]]: no, they're the public keys of servers you've interacted with
[01:14] <[[thufir]]> rww: ahh, that makes more sense.  how do I find my keys?
[01:15] <rww> if you generated keys, they would be in ~/.ssh/id_something (for private) and ~/.ssh/id_something.pub (for public)
[01:15] <rww> If you're trying to copy your ssh key over to a server, I think there's an ssh-copy-id that might be helpful
[01:15] <rww> ("something" is usually rsa, though it could be dsa or ecdsa)
[01:16] <[[thufir]]> rww: interesting, that's what I thought.   I *can* ssh, so it's working, but I don't see how.  when I look in ~/.ssh/ there's nothing like a key or .pub at all.  just hosts.   the keys must be somewhere, but where?
[01:17] <[[thufir]]> I want to confirm where the keys are, etc, in order to configure workbench to ssh into a dig ocean server.  but, I can't find the key which ssh uses (works fine from the CLI).
[01:17] <rww> [[thufir]]: ssh supports password authentication, so it might just be authing based on a password (and if you're in Unity, I believe it caches that password sometimes)
[01:17] <rww> (apologies if this is obvious, I don't know your expertise level)
[01:18] <[[thufir]]> I'm not an expert by any means.  that being said, I recall creating keys for different things, and, I can just "ssh" without anything extra.  I mean, the remote server prompts me for a password, but that's normal, even with keys, right?
[01:18] <rww> if the only file in ~/.ssh/ is known_hosts, and you're not otherwise telling ssh to look elsewhere for keys (on the command-line for example), you're evidently not using key authentication
[01:19] <rww> [[thufir]]: the prompts for key passphrases and server passwords are different. can you copy-paste the prompt you get?
[01:19] <rww> (with identifying details removed, if necessary)
[01:20] <edition> how to re-install jack?
[01:21] <[[thufir]]> rww: http://pastebin.com/XEENM0Q9  expires in ten min.
[01:21] <rww> [[thufir]]: yeah, that's the prompt for password-based authentication
[01:21] <[[thufir]]> rww: ahh, ok, so, if I were using keys, then it would just log me in without a password prompt?  interesting.
[01:22] <rww> [[thufir]]: or it would prompt for the passphrase of your key, if you had one set
[01:22] <rww> [[thufir]]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys might be useful
[01:22] <Ben64> edition: sudo apt-get remove jackd && sudo apt-get install jackd ??
[01:22] <edition> ill try again...
[01:22] <edition> didn't reset the settings
[01:23] <[[thufir]]> rww: ok, thanks.  now, I want to use workbench (mysql gui) to ssh in remotely.  I need to setup keys, and then tell workbench where to find the key, and it will ssh into the remote server?
[01:23] <Ben64> edition: you can try purge but make sure it doesn't remove things you need as well
[01:23] <edition> great. how?
[01:23] <Ben64> "purge" instead of "remove"
[01:23] <edition> sorry. idk.
[01:23] <[[thufir]]> edition: apt-get purge <something>
[01:23] <rww> [[thufir]]: no idea, I haven't used that feature of workbench
[01:23] <edition> thanks
[01:23] <rww> [[thufir]]: but that sounds reasonable
[01:23] <Ben64> edition: but why jack? i've seen you talk about it for hours here already
[01:24] <[[thufir]]> rww: thanks.
[01:24] <rww> [[thufir]]: once you get keys set up, #mysql might be of help (or someone else in here, if anyone shows up)
[01:24] <[[thufir]]> rww: of course, there's even #workbench, they don't like to hear about it in #mysql
[01:25] <edition> Jack had issues with getting access to the audio device
[01:25] <edition> got locked by freedesktop, or something
[01:42] <edition> gladish says that Jack is Sick
[01:42] <AndroidLoverInSF> does any ubuntu file manager have queueing of file operations like mac's pathfinder 3rd party app
[01:54] <edition> LADI says Jack is Sick
[01:54] <rww> edition: ?
[01:54] <edition> tried reinstalling jackd.
[01:54] <edition> no support pages for LADI.
[01:54] <rww> what's all this "X says jack is sick" stuff
[01:55] <rww> oh, ladi's a program. nvm.
[01:55] <edition> this is driving me to the drink
[01:57] <edition> why?!?!?
[01:59]  * edition swears at the computer.
[01:59] <kriskropd> how do I know if removing tomcat6 from my server will affect another package that depends on it?
[01:59] <rww> edition: if #ubuntu isn't working out for you, perhaps try http://askubuntu.com/ ?
[02:00] <edition> no use!
[02:01] <edition> same person on askubuntu has the same problem. no answers!
[02:01] <rww> gunarm_: would you kindly fix your IRC client?
[02:01] <edition> is there a channel for linux multimedia?
[02:02] <edition> ie: Jack
[02:02] <rww> #jack ?
[02:03] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[02:03] <edition> HI!
[02:03] <edition> THANKYOU rww
[02:03] <HikaruBG> I am trying to install Microsoft Office 2013 on Ubuntu 14.04 with PlayOnLinux
[02:03] <edition> you mean wine?
[02:03] <HikaruBG> but it comes up with Error in POL_Wine
[02:04] <HikaruBG> Play On Linux i mean
[02:04] <HikaruBG> it still uses Wine, yes
[02:04] <HikaruBG> it just presets it with the necessary configurations and installs all software to separate virtual disks,
[02:05] <HikaruBG> edition, do you know what error POL_Wine means?
[02:05] <edition> no idea
[02:06] <HikaruBG> Thanks, Anyone else?
[02:06] <gustavo9> Hi everyone I need some help on a disk image
[02:07] <rypervenche> gustavo9: What's your issue?
[02:08] <gustavo9> I have a disk image and if I run qemu-system-i386 myimage.img runs great but once I do a raw copy with dd to a usb thumb it just doesn't work
[02:08] <EyePulp> howdy; running 14.04 - I have /etc/network/interfaces set up with static values, and I ifup/ifdown eth0, and do resolvconf -u, but /etc/resolv.conf still contains what appears to be dhcp values - it doesn't pick up any of the dns-nameservers values in my interfaces file.  What am I screwing up?
[02:09] <gustavo9> This image contains an operating system based on 2.4x linux kernel
[02:09] <rww> EyePulp: interfaces has a line "iface eth0 inet static", and not "iface eth0 inet dhcp"?
[02:09] <gustavo9> with a LILO boot
[02:09] <EyePulp> rww: iface eth0 inet static
[02:09] <rww> hrm
[02:10] <EyePulp> I can gist the file if that would help
[02:11] <HikaruBG> speaking of a disk images, how is it possible to create a copy of a partition?
[02:11] <rypervenche> HikaruBG: dd can do that
[02:12] <EyePulp> rww: resolv.conf.d/base & head do get appended if I edit them, but my issue is these original settings keep coming back, so I'm trying to figure out how to eliminate them
[02:12] <EyePulp> I thought going static in interfaces would solve it, but not yet apparently. =\
[02:13] <rww> do you have network-manager installed? it might be doing something silly
[02:13] <EyePulp> rww:  unknown - how should I test?
[02:13] <rww> apt-cache policy network-manager , check the Installed: line
[02:13] <gustavo9> rypervenche: got any ideas?
[02:14] <EyePulp> (none)
[02:14] <HikaruBG> rypervenche, thank you!
[02:16] <arrubin> I have a laptop with NVIDIA Optimus, but I am not trying to use Optimus. I installed with the integrated GPU and later switched to discrete and installed the NVIDIA drivers. Everything worked fine, but the discrete GPU is terrible for battery. I switched back to integrated in the BIOS and removed the NVIDIA driver. X starts and I am able to log in, but then it just sits there and does nothing. It will not load the desktop.
[02:17] <arrubin> What might I have missed that the NVIDIA driver left behind?
[02:17] <arrubin> I have no xorg.conf.
[02:17] <rypervenche> gustavo9: Don't know. I would think it might have something to do with the boot loader, but that kernel is so old and lilo is...old. I can't help with that.
[02:19] <gustavo9> ok, this is weird cos I the image is comming from a compact flash and I'm trying to make it work on a usb thumb I guess it has something to do now on the other hand this image actually boots on a qemu virtual machine but doesn't from the thumb :(
[02:23] <rypervenche> gustavo9: What happens when you tell your system to boot from the USB drive?
[02:25] <kriskropd> how can i find which installed packages depend on a particular package? in my case, tomcat6
[02:25] <rww> sudo apt-get purge tomcat6 and see what it asks you to remove (it'll prompt before removing)
[02:26] <gustavo9> rypervenche: it only displays LI
[02:26] <rww> (which you should then say N to, probably)
[02:28] <gustavo9> I algo suppose that my image is a whole disk image not a partition image and I need to mount the disk image to copy the partition's image, shouldn't I?
[02:30] <kriskropd> rww: it doesn't list anything, but the thing is I don't remember installing tomcat6 so I'm betting it was a dependency for some java thing that I don't remember
[02:30] <kriskropd> rww: i suppose it should be fine, since I don't use it or java on the server, but i have my concerns - fixing a broken system is a pain
[02:33] <kriskropd> rww: well, i turned the service off, apt-get removed it, recovered some memory and don't see anything breaking yet, tho I should probably reboot it to make sure
[02:33]  * rww nods
[02:33] <rww> tomcat's usually for java webapps, so if you're not running one of those...
[02:36] <CLnet> network2012 clnetworking.info@gmail.com
[02:37] <AndroidLoverInSF> anyone successfully upgraded and didn't break their mythtv from 12.04 to 14.04 ubuntu upgrade? i don't want to break mythtv by upgrading to 14.04
[02:59] <pifi_> assalamuallaikum
[03:03] <edition> how to get list of wifi SSIDs, in the terminal?
[03:03] <kriskropd> rww: a while back (back in 2011 or 2012), I had experimented with phpVirtualBox on this particular machine, I'll bet tomcat was used back then for the java applet that gave console access
[03:03] <rww> sounds right
[03:04] <edition> nevermind
[03:07] <glitch> i need help with xrandr i know my stats but need help setting the command
[03:10] <glitch> viewport in 1920x1080 viewportout 1820x1020+50+20 as i would input it in nvidia but i need it set to be persistant
[03:14] <moondog> glitch: if you use arandr it will create a script for you.
[03:14] <moondog> then you can run that on start up
[03:14] <akki> chrome cant detect the java plugin
[03:14] <glitch> are you using chrome 35
[03:15] <glitch> moondog:  thank you
[03:16] <akkik> yes
[03:16] <alumno_> hola??
[03:17] <rww> !es
[03:17] <glitch> akkik:  you need to down grade chrome to 34 there is no current java plugin that chrome 35+ will accept
[03:17] <alumno_> hello
[03:17] <akkik> thanks glitch
[03:17]  * edition is so frustrated with JACK.
[03:20] <akkik> glitch: thanks
[03:24] <glitch> moondog: you still here it will not help me set overcan (crappy tvhas no adjustments
[03:27] <stonner> how to disable vesafb on ubuntu 14.04?
[03:31] <Michael87> wtf
[03:31] <Michael87> fdjhhfdsklgfuifdsolfdoigfhiugfudfghcfgdcfhkjhbghdfilg
[03:33] <StringsStar> so
[03:37] <SchrodingersScat> StringsStar: so buttons, mister
[03:48] <EyePulp> any ideas why dns-nameservers is ignored in /interfaces under 14.04?  it's a static iface, and I get no errors with resolvconf
[04:11] <Zazy> Can someone help me with grub?
[04:14] <Beldar> Zazy, State the issue for help.
[04:15] <Zazy> I had to delete my /boot and efi partition and after I remade them and tried to use them after fixing my fstab and crypttab, running update-grub or grub-install /dev/sda, it didn't work
[04:15] <Beldar> Zazy, You can't just switch from efi to legacy which is what grub-install /dev/sda is
[04:16] <Beldar> !bootinfo | Zazy
[04:16] <Zazy> Beldar: doesn't having grub-efi resolve that?
[04:16] <Beldar> no
[04:17] <Beldar> Zazy, Not sure what you actually mean run the boot script so we can see what is there now
[04:17] <Zazy> Beldar: ok
[04:17] <windowsxp> anybody have the idea to bypass checkpoint from ubuntu 14 so that i could get an access to the restricted sites
[04:17] <Beldar> windowsxp, checkpoint?
[04:18] <SchrodingersScat> windowsxp: restricted sites?
[04:18] <windowsxp> yes, our company uses checkpoint to block some sites
[04:18] <Beldar> windowsxp, ask them, that is way odd topic
[04:18] <windowsxp> youtube, facebook are blocked here through checkpoint
[04:18] <Beldar> off*
[04:19] <Beldar> windowsxp, For the record we do not help you bypass filters like this ever.
[04:20] <windowsxp> can you recommend any channels who have the perfect idea how to bypas?
[04:20] <Beldar> windowsxp, I know of none, I'm not employed nor have any in my way.
[04:20] <SchrodingersScat> probably #freenode
[04:21] <Beldar> lol
[04:21] <SchrodingersScat> (shh)
[04:21] <Beldar> windowsxp, Use your smartphone and keep your job. ;)
[04:22] <Zazy> Beldar: here's the output http://pastebin.com/5zW8t2yd
[04:22] <windowsxp> since am new to linux am askin' this question
[04:22] <Beldar> windowsxp, Honestly it is a dumb question, just saying.
[04:23] <akkik> what means linux programming
[04:23] <windowsxp> might be dumb for you
[04:23] <Beldar> even considering that is dumb, rules are rukes for reasons
[04:23] <Beldar> rules
[04:23] <windowsxp> ok
[04:24] <Beldar> dumb for anyone
[04:24] <coolmsn> hello
[04:30] <coolmsn> i have a problem to ubuntu i try to install angry birds breakfast and get an error that says angry birds cannot install because is an error
[04:31] <Beldar> coolmsn, where is the install from?
[04:32] <Beldar> and how are you installing?
[04:32] <coolmsn> from original cd
[04:33] <coolmsn> i install in wine
[04:34] <Beldar> coolmsn, maybe #winehq
[04:36] <Zazy> coolmsn: or the #playonlinux channel if you u want to use playonlinux to manage wine
[04:37] <coolmsn> thanks all
[04:43] <Zazy> also when I use su to login into my user after chrooting into my os drive from this live session, I get an error saying "open: Permission denied Error locking counter". Running ecryptfs-mount private, to gain access to my /home folder also gives the error "open: Permission denied Error locking counter"
[04:44] <john38> Hello i have a small Compaq desktop with an Intel Atom processor 1.67ghz single core 1GB ram and integrated intel chipset video card which ubuntu version would be best suited for this computer??
[04:45] <function9> john38: xubuntu
[04:45] <john38> function9, not Lubuntu
[04:45] <function9> john38: yeah that too
[04:45] <coolmsn> john38 not lubuntu gnome
[04:46] <john38> function9, i thought Lubuntu was lightweight i wasnt sure which one though
[04:46] <john38> coolmsn, so which lubuntu do i get thought all lubuntu ran LXDE desktop
[04:46] <function9> john38: try them all, which ever rocks your socks
[04:47] <Beldar> Zazy, Do you want gpt partitioning?
[04:47] <john38> function9, i just need a very lightweight ubuntu
[04:48] <Zazy> Beldar: Yes, that's what I'm using currently
[04:48] <coolmsn> john38 lubuntu is for old computers
[04:48] <Beldar> Zazy, Ah, why?
[04:48] <john38> coolmsn, ok cool i'll get that then
[04:48] <Beldar> you have only three partitions Zazy
[04:48] <coolmsn> you can install xbuntu
[04:49] <john38> yeah but i got a intel atom single core 1.67ghz processor
[04:49] <john38> 1gb ram
[04:50] <john38> low end
[04:50] <coolmsn> i have computer like me and ubuntu 12 with gnome classic work so fine and with dock and mac os x theme
[04:50] <Zazy> Beldar: My computer came with EFI firmware and gpt and didn't feel the need to change that (is there a problem with it?) and I have a boot partition, an efi partition, swap, a root partition, and an extra storage partition
[04:51] <coolmsn> that is goosd
[04:51] <Beldar> Zazy, Can't say really, this a computer that had W8?
[04:51] <john38> ok thanks
[04:51] <coolmsn> yes is so good
[04:51] <Beldar> Zazy, Your ubuntu install looks to be a non efi is all
[04:51] <Zazy> Beldar: yes
[04:52] <Zazy> Beldar: It was until my boot and efi partition got messed up
[04:52] <Zazy> Beldar: and I tried to make a new 1
[04:52] <Beldar> Zazy, If you want a efi you have to install ubuntu i efi, the grub info I see has no efi notation, did it ever boot?
[04:52] <coolmsn> me boot
[04:53] <Zazy> Beldar: yes it booted in efi mode before
[04:54] <Beldar> Zazy, Ah, I'm not really up on this stuff, if it were me I would set the computer to legacy boot and wipe the disc and msdos, but thats me.
[04:54] <Beldar> and go msdos*
[04:54] <coolmsn> that is to mee
[04:54] <Beldar> coolmsn, Can you post relevant support please.
[04:55] <coolmsn> yes
[04:55] <Zazy> Beldar: ok
[04:56] <Beldar> Zazy, If you decide to go msdos wipe the mbr.
[04:56] <Beldar> than install
[04:58] <Zazy> Can someone help me recover my home folder thats using ecryptfs? I tried using the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory help page, but got errors saying that "open: Permission denied" and "Error locking counter"
[05:32] <cha0z_1> hello, i am using ubuntu13.10 and when I am trying to open file manager it starts and immediately shuts down... What I can do for this?
[05:32] <cha0z_1> * Also I can't see the desktop contents (in the desktop) From the terminal all files are ok, so i suppose is a fm problem
[05:33] <Zazy> cha0z_1: What
[05:33] <cha0z_1> Zazy, ?
[05:33] <Zazy> cha0z_1: What's the name of your file manager?
[05:34] <cha0z_1> Zazy, I am using the default file manager of Ubuntu 13.10. I dont know the name, Is it nautilus? idk
[05:34] <cha0z_1> Also I can't right click :P
[05:38] <cha0z_1> Zazy, how to reinstall the default file manager?
[05:40] <Zazy> cha0z_1: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nautilus
[05:40] <cha0z_1> Zazy, thx i am doing it now
[05:41] <cha0z_1> hmm still the same situation
[05:41] <cha0z_1> I will reboot
[05:41] <Zazy> cha0z_1: wait
[05:41] <cha0z_1> ok Zazy
[05:42] <Zazy> cha0z_1: when you run nautilus in terminal, what messages come up? post them on http://dpaste.com/
[05:42] <cha0z_1> I also made a unity --reset Zazy_ and removed ubuntu1
[05:42] <cha0z_1> sure Zazy wait a min
[05:43] <cha0z_1> omg Zazy http://dpaste.com/2SM0ZJY core dump I think I buffer overflowed my nautilus :{
[05:44] <cha0z_1> Zazy, the error is a about a samba dir but I dont think that I have even enabled samba and shared dirs!!!
[05:46] <subcool> hey, i bought and installed, what i thought to be the seagate hybrid drive.- but its only seen as one large drive..???
[05:46] <subcool> what am i missing.
[05:47] <subcool> its supposed to have 8gb of SSD to it.
[05:47] <Zazy> cha0z_1: That's probably not the problem then. Is anything else not working besides nautilus?
[05:47] <cha0z_1> nope
[05:48] <sireebob> subcool: i'm not 100% sure, but i think that is normal.
[05:48] <cha0z_1> Zazy nope when I am trying with sudo it just opens and after a while a crash happens. Then the classic report blah blah the issue
[05:48] <sireebob> i think the OS, if sufficiently modern, will recognize that and put the most commonly-used files on the SSD sectors.
[05:48] <sireebob> but i could be wrong. it might be a drive firmware thing. i'm really not sure.
[05:49] <subcool> so then how do you use the 8gb part?
[05:49] <cha0z_1> Zazy, the weird is that when I execute nautilus as root nothing happens and the program is ok
[05:50] <Zazy> cha0z_1: when using sudo where there any other errors? Also you should probably file that bug report so devs can fix the problem and others more informed than I can help
[05:50] <cha0z_1> ok Zazy
[05:51] <cha0z_1> Zazy, when I execute it as sudo is the same problem, also when I execute it as root is ok. But if I browse to my simple users home dir it stops! so something happens with my simple user account :/
[05:52] <cha0z_1> it can't execute ~/Desktop
[05:52] <sireebob> subcool: "Hybrid storage products monitor the data being read from the hard drive, and cache the most frequently accessed bits to the high-speed NAND flash memory." - PC World
[05:53] <heush> wadup guys
[05:53] <coolmsn> c
[05:53] <coolmsn> c
[05:53] <coolmsn> c
[05:53] <coolmsn> c
[05:53] <coolmsn> c
[05:53] <sireebob> (full article here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2025402/ssds-vs-hard-drives-vs-hybrids-which-storage-tech-is-right-for-you-.html )
[05:53] <coolmsn> c
[05:53] <unopaste> coolmsn you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[05:53] <sireebob> lol, pasting... that's it
[05:54] <coolmsn> q- # unopaste!*@*
[05:55] <coolmsn> i have a problem
[05:56] <john38> What would you guys recommend a pci wireless adapter or usb wireless adapter??
[05:57] <coolmsn> yes
[05:57] <cfhowlett> coolmsn ask your ubuntu questions
[05:57] <coolmsn> yes
[05:57] <Zazy> cha0z_1: use in terminal gedit $HOME/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[05:58] <Zazy> cha0z_1: do any of those entries look wrong in that file?
[05:58] <coolmsn> no
[05:59] <cfhowlett> !ot|coolmsn for ubuntu help STATE THE ISSUE.  otherwise, ubuntu-offtopic for general chitchat.
[05:59] <coolmsn> thanjs ubottu
[06:02] <ticktoe> Hey people.I installed backbox in my system and while trying to clone a repo,I am getting error as "WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-dD0xYQ/pkcs11: No such file or directory@
[06:02] <ticktoe> How to switch this off? And also I am getting "TLS handshake failed"
[06:03] <coolmsn> how ubuntu 10.04 is outdated but on ubuntu.com says your distro is avable on ubuntu.com
[06:03] <cfhowlett> coolmsn 10.04 has 5 years of desktop support
[06:03] <cfhowlett> "SERVER" suppport
[06:04] <cfhowlett> coolmsn if you have a SERVER, 10.04 is still good for a few more months
[06:04] <Zazy> coolmsn, it says 14.04 is available, not 10.04
[06:06] <ticktoe> I am not able to clone because of that now :#
[06:06] <Zazy> If I reinstall ubuntu without formating, will I be able able to mount my ecryptfs home partition afterwards?
[06:06] <abhi-> hi I'm trying to configure my machine as a approx server..however when I'm doing an apt update I'm getting this error --> http://ix.io/dnt
[06:07] <coolmsn> no on ubuntu software center i can't install apps but on ubuntu.com is an button there writes ubuntu 10.04 and i search of app i want to install and says this app is compatibile with your comuter go to ubuntu software center and install it
[06:08] <cfhowlett> coolmsn open a terminal.  paste the result of this command:  cat /etc/issue
[06:09] <Meaux> abhi: Did you change the proxy settings, or direct the mirrors to your machine?
[06:09] <abhi-> Meaux: there is no proxy configured..if you want I'll paste my approx & sources.list
[06:10] <Meaux> Abhi: Please do
[06:12] <abhi-> Meaux: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7792142/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/7792141/
[06:13] <Meaux> Abhi: I
[06:13] <Meaux> Abhi: unless you have a repo set up on that server, then it shouldn't be pointing to localhost:9999
[06:14] <abhi-> shouldn't approx take care of that redirection of localhost->archive.ubuntu.com?
[06:17] <coolmsn> hello
[06:17] <Meaux> Abhi: That's what it's looking like in the documentation. Run this: netstat -ant | grep 9999 and paste the results, please
[06:18] <Zazy> If I reinstall ubuntu without formating, will I be able able to mount my ecryptfs home partition afterwards?
[06:18] <Abhijit> Zazy, most probably yes.
[06:18] <Zazy> ok
[06:19] <Abhijit> I think while partitioning you can make it mount new /home to old /home. there it will ask you for the password. Zazy
[06:19] <Abhijit> Zazy, dont do all these things without a backup. get backup of /home somewhere first.
[06:19] <cfhowlett> coolmsn open a terminal.  paste the result of this command:  cat /etc/issue
[06:19] <Meaux> Just make sure your username and password are the same, else, decrypt it before installing
[06:20] <coolmsn> i will try
[06:20] <coolmsn> but ubuntu is downloading
[06:20] <cfhowlett> coolmsn so your question was answered then?  great!
[06:20] <coolmsn> thanks
[06:20] <abhi-> Meaux: http://ix.io/dnu
[06:22] <Zazy> Thanks, Abhijit and will backing up the /home work when there's a home folder using ecryptfs?
[06:23] <abhi-> Meaux: Hm got it working.. found the issue after some googling http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2125671
[06:23] <abhi-> Meaux: not sure whether this is a bug...
[06:24] <Meaux> Abhi: You might bring it up with the packager then; although, I'm not sure how to find out who that is
[06:29] <abhi-> Meaux: yeah..will checkout in launchpad I think
[06:29] <Meaux> Abhi: Awesome!
[06:33] <nguyenanhtung> alo
[06:34] <coolmsn> nguyenanhtung you speak romanian
[06:34] <cfhowlett> !vietnamese
[06:37] <nguyenvanbinh> allo
[06:37] <cfhowlett> nguyenanhtung ask your ubuntu questions
[06:42] <anonymous_> friend how to hack facebook somebody
[06:42] <cfhowlett> anonymous_ no hacking here and you're in the wrong channel.
[06:51] <nathanbbb> is there a way to grant permissions on sequences that get made
[06:51] <nathanbbb> without having to grant it
[06:52] <nathanbbb> so like a default grant for a user
[06:56] <Abhijit> how can i boot to recovery mode, without grub? can i append some parameter to kernel?
[06:56] <Abhijit> ubuntu 14.04 server
[07:02] <Cuppa_coffee> goodmorning
[07:03] <Cuppa_coffee> I've got a nice problem. When i click the ubuntu software centre it loads, then crashes. When running apt-get update i get the following error E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[07:03] <Cuppa_coffee> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/repository.spotify.com_dists_stable_non-free_i18n_Translation-en%5fUS
[07:03] <Cuppa_coffee> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[07:04] <Cuppa_coffee> How to fix this?
[07:14] <Abhijit> how can i boot to recovery mode, without grub? can i append some parameter to kernel?
[07:17] <bjpenn> anyone know what apt-key, and gpg is?
[07:17] <bjpenn> whats the concept behind this
[07:18] <trijntje> bjpenn: you can find plenty of information about gpg online
[07:19] <bjpenn> it seems like some key security thing
[07:19] <bjpenn> but what about apt-key
[07:19] <bjpenn> whats the idea behind it?
[07:19] <bjpenn> PPA etc
[07:19] <bjpenn> seems like its something to do with latest packages
[07:19] <bjpenn> that arent available yet with regular apt
[07:19] <bjpenn> still not sure what the key and stuff are all about though
[07:20] <bjpenn> done some reading but was hopign someone could help explain it
[07:20] <trijntje> bjpenn: gpg is used to sign all packages, to make sure you only install packages that you trust
[07:21] <trijntje> if your pc doesn't recognise a signature it will give you a warning and wont install the packages. That way nobody can trick you into installing untrusted packages
[07:21] <bjpenn> so each package has kind of a "cert", and apt-get has something that tells it that "cert" is valid
[07:21] <bjpenn> ?
[07:22] <Ben64> bjpenn: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/wheezy/sect.package-authentication.html
[07:23] <bjpenn> thanks
[07:25] <pds> i'm messing around with logrotate and whould like to delete log files that are older then 30 days. So i don't full the hd until the system goes down - https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-manage-log-files-with-logrotate-on-ubuntu-12-10
[07:25] <pds> i guess if don't specifiy the new file it will remove the file but i'm not sure
[07:31] <jonascj> Anyone using python graphviz on Ubuntu 14.04? I cannot get it to install with "pip install pygraphviz". It complains about a missing python.h
[07:33] <Mathisen> jonascj sudo apt-get install -y graphviz libgraphviz-dev pkg-config python-pip
[07:33] <Mathisen> and try again
[07:41] <cyberpunkgothic> good morning.
[07:41] <cyberpunkgothic> there is a bug!
[07:42] <jj4> exit
[07:42] <jj4> quit
[07:42] <cyberpunkgothic> with thunderbird.
[07:43] <jonascj> Mathisen: do I need to install the packages I already have, again? Will installing pkg-config again cause it to reload configs or similar?
[07:44] <squeakytoy> Hey all. I am trying to nderstand something. I am trying to execute a command programatically. In windows this works fine: 'git log --author="x y"' <-- but when I run it in Ubuntu, the quotes break the command. Even using single quotes ' does work, but if i wrap it with square brackets [] ('git log --author=[x y]') it works - how come? o.O
[07:45] <cyberpunkgothic> the icon to the left for thunderbird shos a 3 for unred messages, but there are only 2 unread messages! keep it updated!!! thanks
[07:45] <Mathisen> jonascj if you already have all of those i dont know what to do... that was the only thing i could think about to solve your issue
[07:49] <jonascj> Mathisen: yeah, no dice - installing all of those packages still cause "pip install pygraphviz" to say "fatal error: python.h no such file or directory"
[07:50] <pds> i'm messing around with logrotate and whould like to delete log files that are older then 30 days. So i don't full the hd until the system goes down - https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-manage-log-files-with-logrotate-on-ubuntu-12-10
[07:50] <pds> i guess if don't specifiy the new file it will remove the file but i'm not sure
[08:08] <fifnir> Hello, anyone here?
[08:09] <jonascj> --This is very frustrating - installing it on ubuntu 12.04 works fine :S
[08:09] <trijntje> fifnir: lots of people
[08:09] <jonascj> fifnir: just ask your question
[08:10] <fifnir> Well I was trying to be polite:P
[08:11] <DeaDSouL> hi, could anyone tell me why this is not working : if [[ "${extension}" != [.jpg]|[.jpeg]|[.gif]|[.png] ]]; then
[08:11] <trijntje> or is || not |
[08:12] <helmut_> hi
[08:14] <DeaDSouL> trijntje: ok it doesn't give me any error now, but the condition doesn't work !
[08:16] <trijntje> DeaDSouL: why do you use brackets instead of quotes around the extensions?
[08:17] <DeaDSouL> trijntje: its an expression.. i thought it was only way.. do u know any other way
[08:25] <Cuppa_coffee> anybody got a solution for my update problem?
[08:28] <fifnir> Hey people: I seem to have messed up python2.7 in my system (no module _sqlite3) so googling says I need to recompile (python2.6 and python3 are okay). So could someone help me with how to recompile python2.7 on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[08:29] <Cuppa_coffee> nevermind. Disabled spotify in the update preferences, apt-get update, upgrade and we're merrily trodding along
[08:30] <jlander> hola
[08:33] <hpprinter100> Hey, i'm running 14.04 and whenever i login it crashes and i'm brought back to the login screen
[08:33] <hpprinter100> How can i get past this?
[08:33] <Cuppa_coffee> thats bad, do you get an error message of some sort?
[08:35] <jlander> hola
[08:35] <hpprinter100> nah it just goes purple and then logs me back out
[08:35] <jlander> cómo puedo modificar particione en gparted si tienen la llavecita ?
[08:35] <Ben64> !es | jlander
[08:35] <hpprinter100> and does the drum roll thing
[08:35] <Cuppa_coffee> have you recently changed session or something like that?
[08:37] <jlander> hi
[08:37] <Cuppa_coffee> hi
[08:37] <hpprinter100> Cuppa_coffee, not that i'm aware of
[08:37] <hpprinter100> can i do a non-gui login?
[08:37] <jlander> how can I modify partitions with gparted if a key is visible?
[08:38] <Ben64> jlander: they may be mounted. if so, you need to unmount them before modifying
[08:38] <Cuppa_coffee> hpprinter100, i meant desktop enviroment
[08:38] <hpprinter100> nope i'm with stock unity no mods
[08:38] <jlander> what does mount mena?
[08:39] <jlander> mean
[08:39] <Cuppa_coffee> aight, then i'm afraid i dont know
[08:39] <Cuppa_coffee> mount essentially means "in use"
[08:39] <jlander> they aren't in use
[08:42] <fifnir> Any leads on how to recompile python2.7 on a 10.04 system with multiple python installations? (I get a no module _sqlit3 error and googling says i need to recompile)
[08:42] <Cuppa_coffee> brb-reboot
[08:43] <jlander> can you help with gparted?
[08:43] <jlander> hemp me
[08:43] <jlander> help me
[08:43] <jlander> nabooooos
[08:44] <creatorb1> can i develop tizen on my ubuntu 14.04?
[08:44] <friendlyfascism> jlander, just state the issue for help.
[08:45] <creatorb1> #join #ubuntu-indonesia
[08:45] <jlander> mm
[08:46] <jlander> i want eliminate a partitions and incorporate free space to another
[08:46] <jlander> i want eliminate one partition and incorporate free space to another
[08:46] <Ben64> jlander: ok well pastebin some information. try "sudo blkid" "sudo parted -l" and "mount" for starters
[08:47] <friendlyfascism> jlander, Take a screen shot put it in an imagebin and state the exact wants you have naming the partitions.
[08:47] <Branko_> hello mindenki
[08:48] <jlander> well
[08:49] <Guest2486> Hi, I installed KDE plasma with  apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop on my ubuntu, now my volume keys are not working. Any suggestions?
[08:50] <friendlyfascism> creatorb1, https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/Install_Tizen_SDK_on_Ubuntu try researching
[08:51] <jlander> i'm waiting for gparted
[08:51] <jlander> take a lot of time to read the disk
[08:52] <jlander> i have I/O errors in 1 partition
[08:53] <nathanbbb> anyone know how to use monit
[08:54] <hpprinter100> friendlyfascism, how is tizen diffrent from android?
[08:54] <Braden`> Hello
[08:54] <friendlyfascism> hpprinter100, no idea never heard of it.
[08:54] <Braden`> I cannot receive any connections on port 4444.  I flushed iptables, so there are no firewall rules preventing it.  What might cause that?
[08:55] <pds> how do i remove old log files with logrotate, found https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-manage-log-files-with-logrotate-on-ubuntu-12-10 but doesn't seems to specificy deletion. However it doesn't specificy deletion. Will eve.json accept this
[08:55] <creatorb1> friendlyfascism: yeah i know :) but everything tutorial i see worked on 12.04 / 13.04 nothing found on 14.04, oke i will try it ...
[08:55] <Abhijit> Braden`, router / modem settings?
[08:55] <fifnir> Any leads on how to recompile python2.7 on a 10.04 system with multiple python installations? (I get a no module _sqlit3 error and googling says i need to recompile)
[08:56] <friendlyfascism> creatorb1, It is 3rd party  not really supported here.
[08:56] <Abhijit> fifnir, just get python source and compile, install it?
[08:57] <friendlyfascism> creatorb1, They have a channel #tizen
[08:57] <creatorb1> hpprinter100: tizen have tpk format package and can worked on android,ios,windows phone,etc
[08:57] <fifnir> just like that? I'm afraid it'll make an even worse mess
[08:57] <function9> Braden`: do you have a service running for that port?
[08:59] <friendlyfascism> pds, What release are you running?
[09:00] <hpprinter100> creatorb1, can you link to an article with your claims?
[09:07] <pcdroid> How does USB mobile broadband work with Ubuntu? Are these normally only compatible with Windows?
[09:08] <coolmsn> pcdroid:usb mobile work on ubuntu i tested
[09:08] <k1l_> pcdroid: some work out of the box. depends on the usb stick
[09:10] <pcdroid> ok
[09:10] <pcdroid> i googled some, seems usb modeswitch is something i might have to use
[09:10] <coolmsn> pcdroid
[09:11] <k1l_> pcdroid: get the exact make and model (or the usb-id) and then look out for the specific hardware
[09:14] <demon^eye> HI  , when switching to other language in chrome Url place i get gibrish not my selected language type...any ide why????
[09:14] <coolmsn> sex
[09:15] <coolmsn> nobody chat with me im so sad :(
[09:15] <friendlyfascism> coolmsn, This is not chat.
[09:15] <Cagri705> Hello, I am trying to download a program called "matlab" from the softwarecenter (not actual matlab, but yeah), and i have a problem. Software-center starts to go black, and it freezes, i tried reinstalling software-center, but it seems like whenever i try to download that software, then it just jumps straight to "installing" and freezes. can anyone help?
[09:16] <Abhijit> Cagri705, manually download from matlab website.
[09:16] <coolmsn> where is the chat
[09:16] <friendlyfascism> !topic | coolmsn
[09:16] <Cagri705> Abhijit, It's not the actual Matlab software, i got that one installed
[09:16] <Cagri705> !reply s
[09:16] <coolmsn> hello
[09:17] <coolmsn> nobody chat with me im so sad :(
[09:17] <bcvery> coolmsn, general chat in: #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[09:17] <k1l_> !guidelines > coolmsn
[09:17] <Cagri705> can anyone help?
[09:17] <k1l_> coolmsn: please keep this channel clear for support. thanks
[09:18] <Abhijit> Cagri705, do apt-get insntall scilab
[09:18] <Cagri705> abhijit, what's scilab?
[09:18] <coolmsn> i try to install win 2-7 on gnome-classic and get error plase use gnome classic
[09:18] <Abhijit> Cagri705, open source matlab alternate. same thing. for linux.
[09:19] <Cagri705> Abhijit, I have original Matlab software for my ubuntu laptop installed
[09:19] <coolmsn> #ubuntu-offtopic :Cannot send to channel wtf is that
[09:19] <Abhijit> Cagri705, you already have it installed? then whats the issue ?
[09:20] <Cagri705> Abhijit, the thing is, there's just an app i want to download from the software center, where it crashed when it reaches "installing" and i cant seem to delete the temporary files and try downloading again
[09:20] <Cagri705> whenever i try to download it again, it skips the downloading part, runs straight to installing, and crashed
[09:21] <Abhijit> and that app is Matlab? which you already have installed? which  you are trying to install? what am i missing Cagri705 ?
[09:21] <k1l_> coolmsn: please come to #ubuntu-ops to discuss that issues with the #ubuntu channels
[09:21] <ezra-s> Cagri705, there should be some trace of the installation , have you tried "sudo apt-get purge package-name" first before trying to reinstall?
[09:22] <Cagri705> Abhijit, that app is called "matlab" but it's not the actual matlab thing.
[09:22] <Cagri705> ezra-s, how do i specify the package name?
[09:23] <ezra-s> Cagri705, I just joined I assumed you were talking about an apt-get installation, if that's so, the same way you try to install
[09:23] <Cagri705> ezra-s, no sorry.. its from software-center. that ubuntu application where you can download stuff
[09:24] <ezra-s> Cagri705, it's the same thing then, what's the software named?
[09:24] <ezra-s> I can look it up for you
[09:24] <Cagri705> ezra-s, matlab
[09:26] <vlt> Hello. I installed the pkg asterisk-dahdi on 12.04 LTS when it had kernel 3.2.0-23 and got /lib/modules/3.2.0-23-virtual/updates/dkms/dahdi.ko.  After an update the kernel is 3.2.0-60 now but there's no dahdi.ko in /lib/modules/.  Any idea what I have to do to "generate(?)" that module?
[09:26] <ezra-s> I see similar packages and some related to it, but not the specific one, try checking what you have installed. Type "dpkg -l | grep -i matlab", paste the results in paste.ubuntu.com
[09:26] <ezra-s> Cagri705, ^^
 shouldnt the mesa files be updated on 14.04?
 i tried the drivers and i got only 2.1 opengl on 7870, 10.1.3
[09:27] <Cagri705> ezra-s, its blank
[09:27] <Cagri705> ezra-s, this is the app description: This package does not provide MATLAB. Instead, it configures an existing MATLAB installation to integrate more comfortably in a Debian installation.  Currently it provides /usr/bin/matlab through the alternatives system, offers to work around incompatibilities between the libraries bundled with MATLAB and system libraries, and provides a helper utility meant to be used by other packages to compil
[09:27] <ezra-s> Cagri705, try "sudo apt-get install matlab-support"
[09:30] <ubuntu_new> hi
[09:30] <ubuntu_new> how  i can install ubuntu ?
[09:30] <k1l_> !install | ubuntu_new
[09:30] <jlander> can i add gpart in live usb live?
[09:30] <Cagri705> ezra-s, thank you for your help. I should have known that. Do you know if you can remove the "uninstalled files" that softwarecenter downloaded?
[09:31] <ubuntu_new> can i have ubuntu and windows together ?
[09:31] <h8> yes you can ubuntu_new
[09:31] <ubuntu_new> how?
[09:31] <h8> ubuntu_new: see this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[09:31] <ezra-s> Cagri705, you can if you knew which they were, but essentially it should have tried to do the same as the line you executed
[09:32] <k1l_> ubuntu_new: that is called "dualboot setup"
[09:32] <ezra-s> Cagri705, so if something failed or got batly installed it has been overwritten now
[09:32] <Cagri705> ezra-s, nice. also the downlaoded files which arent installed yet?
[09:32] <Cagri705> ezra-s, nevermind. it's updated in software center now
[09:33] <ezra-s> Cagri705, I have never installed matlab, I guess you would need some research for that, but I bet they are in /tmp or similar, which will get deleted on next boot
[09:33] <Cagri705> ezra-s, no problems anymore. It's all good :-)
[09:33] <ezra-s> Cagri705, yes, software-center and apt-get feed on the sabe install database
[09:33] <Cagri705> ezra-s, thanks for helping me
[09:33] <ezra-s> Cagri705, my pleasure
[09:35] <ubuntu_new> do download ubuntu from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop  ???
[09:36] <jlander> can i add gpart in live usb live?
[09:37] <ubuntu_new> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop yes or no ? :(
[09:38] <ezra-s> ubuntu_new, yes
[09:38] <ikonia> ubuntu_new: it looks like you are already running ubuntu
[09:38] <ikonia> ubuntu_new: you are talking from an ubuntu machine
[09:38] <bah_> hi all, anybody know how I can send mail from a webapp (localhost) to a dir on my own machine ?
[09:38] <ikonia> bah_: you don't send mail to a dir
[09:39] <ikonia> bah_: you send it to a mail server, a mail server then delivers it where you tell it to
[09:39] <ikonia> eg: a directory on your machine
[09:39] <ubuntu_new> yes but my ubuntu is on vmware machine and the version of this is 12.10
[09:39] <ikonia> ubuntu_new: you approach it the same
[09:39] <ikonia> ubuntu_new: you install from install media, the same as in vmware
[09:40] <bah_> ikonia, I see, do you know where I can find instructions how to set this up? running a rails app and xubuntu 14.04
[09:41] <ikonia> bah_: check the ubuntu wiki on mail server setup
[09:43] <blackyboy> One of client machine hard drive failure occurred just now, Now , Check the filesystem of that hard drive and its clean, so what i did now is took another 250 GB hdd and started to cloning the defected whole drive to new drive using command  { sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb oflag=direct bs=1GB } and its under process, after finish what i want to do ? did i want to replace the UUID in fstab or its will be fine to run ?
 ubuntu_new: you install from install media, the same as in vmware
[09:45] <ubuntu_new> sorry
[09:45] <ubuntu_new> DC...
[09:45] <ubuntu_new> do U khow why my webcam not working ?
[09:47] <ikonia> ubuntu_new: you're using vmware - it doesn't have a web cam
[09:47] <Ugb3> I have a question, the dev of mediatomb made an update yesterday after I reported a bug, will the package be updated soon or should I try to get the compilation working ?
[09:47] <ikonia> Ugb3: the package will not be updated
[09:47] <ikonia> Ugb3: you need to log a bug against the package in ubuntu to get it updated
[09:47] <ubuntu_new> ok ... so i should install ubuntu ...
[09:48] <ikonia> Ugb3: it will only be updated in the current version, it will not get a version bump though (or very unlikley to)
[09:48] <ubuntu_new> so i download it from website and burn it to CD ?
[09:48] <ikonia> ubuntu_new: exactly as you did with vmware
[09:48] <ikonia> !install | ubuntu_new
[09:48] <Ugb3> ikonia: That's a minor update
[09:49] <ikonia> Ugb3: should be possible to get an update pushed out then
[09:49] <etu1> salut
[09:49] <etu1> cmt va tu
[09:49] <etu1> slt
[09:49] <Ugb3> ikonia: So package are updated only when there is a bug repport filled ?
[09:49] <ubuntu_new> i should install in another driver difrent from driver that windows is install on it ?
[09:49] <ikonia> Ugb3: correct
[09:50] <ikonia> ubuntu_new: you can install it where you want, the links ubottu sent you explain it
[09:50] <Ugb3> ikonia: I guess I should get some documentation about how package maintenance works.
[09:50] <ubuntu_new> ok ... tnx alot ...
[09:50] <ArGGu^_^> Hello, I am creating custom live cd, using mini remix 14.04. "aplay -l" returns no soundcards found, while "cat /proc/asound/cards" returns a card.
[09:51] <ikonia> ArGGu^_^: it's your re-spin, you support it
[09:51] <ArGGu^_^> I tried Lubuntu 14.04 live-cd and with it "aplay -l" returns a sound card.
[09:51] <ikonia> ArGGu^_^: it's your re-spin, you support it
[09:52] <ubuntu_new> is ubuntu free or i should pay money for it ? :?
[09:53] <ikonia> ubuntu_new: it's free
[09:53] <ArGGu^_^> ikonia I may not ask help for custom live cd that just contains base install of ubuntu?
[09:53] <ikonia> ubuntu_new: you can contribute if you want
[09:53] <ikonia> ArGGu^_^: no
[09:53] <ArGGu^_^> ikonia ok
[09:53] <ArGGu^_^> ikonia is there a channel related ubuntu I may ask questions like that?
[09:53] <ikonia> ArGGu^_^: no idea
[09:53] <ArGGu^_^> ikonia ok
[09:54] <vlt> How to build dkms kernel modules for a new kernel version after a system update?
[09:54] <ubuntu_new> ok ... i m downloading from
[09:54] <ubuntu_new> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?country=US&version=14.04&architecture=amd64
[09:54] <ubuntu_new> is it ok ? :(
[09:54] <Abhijit> lammy is spamming with port links in pm.
[09:54] <ikonia> ubuntu_new: anything from ubuntu.com is official
[09:54] <Abhijit> ops^
[09:54] <ikonia> Abhijit: that is not in this channel
[09:54] <pds> just configured logrotate however its montly i want to force run so the old files are cleared and i don't have to wait a whole month
[09:54] <pds> anybody got ideas
[09:55] <Abhijit> ikonia, /whois tells me he is in this channel too
[09:55] <Abhijit> ikonia, ok. not this. i mean ubuntu-server
[09:55] <ubuntu_new> tnx
[09:55] <Ugb3> Anybody got link to documentation about how package maintenance is made in ubuntu ?
[09:55] <ikonia> !bugs | Ugb3
[09:56] <Ugb3> ikonia: thanks, but not what I asked.
[09:56] <Abhijit> Ugb3, http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/
[09:56] <Abhijit> Ugb3, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[09:56] <Ugb3> thank Abhijit
[09:57] <ikonia> Ugb3: that explains the bug reporting system and should have notes about the package getting updated
[09:57] <ubuntu_new> so i download it and burn to CD and i install it on my Driver such as when i install windows... :?
[09:58] <ikonia> ubuntu_new: READ the link ubottu sent you
[09:58] <ikonia> ubuntu_new: you're asking the same thing over and over
[09:59] <ubuntu_new> ok ... have a good time ... bye
[09:59] <ubuntu_new> tnx a lot
[09:59] <Ugb3> I can't report a bug without sending a report ? :/
[10:00] <ikonia> Ugb3: because sending the report is the bug
[10:00] <ikonia> that is the bug report
[10:00] <k1l_> Ugb3: how do you want report a bug without reporting it?
[10:01] <Ugb3> k1l_: Because the bug won't apear in the report as I don't even have the package installed.
[10:01] <ikonia> Ugb3: the doc should list how to report a bug without apport
[10:01] <k1l_> Ugb3: then go to launchpad.net, choose the package and press: report a bug
[10:02] <Ugb3> k1l_: You can do that ? not a word about that on the wiki.
[10:02] <Ugb3> Thank
[10:02] <ikonia> there is a word about it
[10:02] <Abhijit> how can i select all a file in terminal?
[10:03] <ikonia> pretty detailed section about it
[10:03] <ikonia> Abhijit: select them in what ?
[10:03] <Abhijit> ikonia, vim or nano
[10:03] <ikonia> Abhijit: they are text editors
[10:03] <ikonia> you don't select files
[10:03] <Abhijit> ikonia, i want to copy paste a file. from terminal to pastebin.
[10:03] <Abhijit> content of a file.
[10:03] <k1l_> Abhijit: you just oben the file with the texteditor
[10:03] <Abhijit> not the file
[10:04] <ikonia> pastebinit
[10:04] <k1l_> Abhijit: pastbinit /path/to/file
[10:04] <k1l_> *pastebinit
[10:04]  * Abhijit gets caught
[10:09] <codephobic> hi
[10:09] <Ugb3> Is there a way to change the language of the terminal ? I have a localized version but I can't stand having to translate in english the errors i get...
[10:10] <Ugb3> export LC_ALL=C did it.
[10:10] <codephobic> where should you place downloaded applications (say Sublime Text 3) in your filesystem in ubuntu 14.04? And how do you get the icons and everything to integrate with unity?
[10:11] <Abhijit> codephobic, /opt or /<userhome/bin ??
[10:11] <sivteck> Hi, i am using ubuntu 14.04, sometimes the fonts get distorted: http://imgur.com/CBYaEr0  <--- screenshot, see the second u in ubuntu in ubuntu 13.10. The fonts get distorted in all applications and it goes away after i select it.
[10:11] <Abhijit> and then add /<userhome>/bin to PATH?
[10:11] <codephobic> Abhijit, does that also make it visible to unity's launcher and lenses?
[10:12] <Abhijit> codephobic, no idea about that. you should consult unity channel for that.
[10:12] <Abhijit> codephobic, ideally , it should.
[10:13] <Ugb3> I'm trying to compile mediatomb, but I get "//usr/local/lib/libswscale.so.2: undefined reference to `av_pix_fmt_swap_endianness@LIBAVUTIL_52'" any idea of what is wrong ?
[10:13] <codephobic> I used to store applications (eclipse) in /opt, but never really could get them to 'register' with Debian's (or Unity's) desktop. Atleast in Debian I could just hack the menu and add it anyway, with Ubuntu I want to try and do things 'right'.
[10:13] <sivteck> my laptop has AMD A4-5000 with integrated graphics
[10:14] <jlander> i need help with gparted
[10:14] <jlander> i want to resize partition
[10:14] <codephobic> Abhijit, ah, didn't know there was a specific channel for unity, figured it was part and parcel of Ubuntu.
[10:14] <codephobic> ok, will go ask there too
[10:14] <Abhijit> codephobic, its #ubuntu-unity
[10:14] <codephobic> Abhijit, I'm guessing it's not #unity
[10:14] <codephobic> ah
[10:14] <codephobic> lol
[10:15] <Abhijit> codephobic, that unity is game engine.
[10:21] <Cyb3rty> reiserfs or ext4?
[10:21] <gener1c> which partition?
[10:21] <Cyb3rty> any
[10:21] <k1l_> Cyb3rty: if you need to ask use ext4
[10:21] <Cyb3rty> ok
[10:22] <gener1c> the filesystem you choose depends on your needs
[10:22] <gener1c> but yeah kll has a point
[10:22] <k1l_> if you dont know why you want to use something other then ext4 dont use it
[10:22] <gener1c> id tell him to use ext3
[10:22] <gener1c> more stable
[10:22] <Cyb3rty> but i'll never know it then
[10:23] <Cyb3rty> k1l_
[10:23] <Ben64> ext4 is plenty stable
[10:23] <k1l_> Cyb3rty: then read yourself into reiserfs
[10:25] <Cyb3rty> and another question: do i need /boot partition?
[10:26] <Ben64> Cyb3rty: under most circumstances, no. only if you want full disk encryption, which i'd recommend against
[10:26] <Ben64> or certain raid stuff, etc
[10:26] <jlander> i need help with gparted
[10:26] <Ben64> jlander: yep, and you still haven't posted the information requested of you
[10:27] <Cyb3rty> Ben64, so i need only /, swap and home partitions?
[10:27] <Ben64> Cyb3rty: you only "need" /   .... swap is very good to have, as well as /home
[10:28]  * trijntje always uses a swapfile, less hassel during installation ;)
[10:28] <jlander> which information?
[10:28] <Ben64> Jul 14 2014 01:46:53 <Ben64>	jlander: ok well pastebin some information. try "sudo blkid" "sudo parted -l" and "mount" for starters
[10:28] <Ben64> Jul 14 2014 01:47:00 <friendlyfascism>	jlander, Take a screen shot put it in an imagebin and state the exact wants you have naming the partitions.
[10:28] <Ben64> nearly 2 hours ago ^
[10:28] <codephobic> still no answer on #ubuntu-unity ...
[10:29] <jlander> i don't know do this
[10:29] <Ben64> !pastebin | jlander
[10:29] <pds> is it me or does lograte check the date of the last edit of a log instead of the log file entries it self
[10:29] <pds> logrotate*
[10:30] <Cyb3rty> Ben64, what about that LVM thing? it looks useful, but what are disadvantages of it?
[10:31] <jlander> i only need to resize a partition
[10:31] <Ben64> Cyb3rty: could be harder to recover from an error, its why i like using normal partitions. easy to recover from hard drive problems/crashes without losing data
[10:32] <Cyb3rty> Ben64, ok. thank you
[10:34] <jlander> fuck off
[10:35] <masoudborbor> hi everybody, I want to format my flash usb drive but it is readonly I tried some methods mentioned at the forum but didnt work. anybody to help?
[10:36] <ikonia> masoudborbor: open gparted, click format
[10:36] <masoudborbor> ikonia, I used that, but after I click apply it says it is read only
[10:37] <ikonia> masoudborbor: ok, so that normally happens when either a.) the device is dead b.) there is a read only switch on it c.) its mounted
[10:37] <masoudborbor> ikonia, it is not dead because I can copy files from that, and there is no read only switch
[10:37] <ikonia> masoudborbor: copied files from it is "reading"
[10:37] <ikonia> masoudborbor: therefore it could be dead
[10:38] <masoudborbor> ikonia, tx. nothing can be done then?
[10:38] <Ugb3> masoudborbor: what file system did you use ?
[10:39] <masoudborbor> not mine. ntfs
[10:39] <Ugb3> masoudborbor: Try fat
[10:39] <masoudborbor> oh ok
[10:39] <ikonia> masoudborbor: depends if its a.) broken b.) read only switch c.) mounted
[10:39] <nishantjrxxx> I'm on 14.04. For some reason when I restart the lightdm process certain processes 'leak' out of the session. loginctl shows the sessions state as 'closing', but it doesnt kill the script. Any idea why?
[10:39] <Ugb3> ntfs often mount as read-only.
[10:39] <ikonia> that's the whole point
[10:39] <ikonia> he's trying to format it
[10:39] <ikonia> it shouldn't be mounted
[10:40] <masoudborbor> I tried unmounting that first
[10:40] <Ugb3> masoudborbor: You can't unmount it ?
[10:40] <ikonia> masoudborbor: can you actually format it, or is the error happening after is't formatted and mounted
[10:40] <masoudborbor> Ugb3, I can, and I do
[10:40] <masoudborbor> ikonia, I can unmount it, but I can not format it
[10:41] <ikonia> right, so it's the format that's failing
[10:41] <ikonia> so that suggests the device may be dead
[10:41] <Ugb3> masoudborbor: You can't format in any file system ?
[10:41] <masoudborbor> I tried fat and ntfs
[10:41] <masoudborbor> both th e same: read only...
[10:41] <Ugb3> masoudborbor: Are you able to try it on another computer ?
[10:42] <masoudborbor> same happens
[10:42] <Ugb3> Did you try on other os ?
[10:42] <masoudborbor> nope
[10:43] <Ugb3> masoudborbor: maybe you should try to dd something on it to see if it'sreally dead.
[10:43] <ikonia> or maybe you should accept that usb's have a finite number of rights
[10:44] <Cuppa_coffee> or, bite the bullet and format it with windows
[10:44] <ikonia> writes even
[10:44] <Ugb3> ikonia: They do, but what's the point of trhowing it out if it can be saved ?
[10:44] <ikonia> how is using a different OS going to give it more writes
[10:45] <Ugb3> ikonia: Because maybe it's not dead, maybe you should accept that a non working  "usb" is not always dead.
[10:45] <ikonia> Ugb3: I totally accept that, that's why I gave 3 options
[10:55] <Rienzilla> Hello there.
[10:55] <Rienzilla> My ubuntu 14.04 desktop does not show a login screen or desktop anymore on boot
[10:56] <Rienzilla> all I get is an empty desktop background, and I can switch to the text consoles with ctrl-alt-something
[10:56] <k1l_> Rienzilla: make sure the video card driver works
[10:56] <Cuppa_coffee> how, without any gui to speak of?
[10:56] <Rienzilla> k1l_: it does, I get the desktop background picture
[10:57] <Rienzilla> I just don't get a working windowmanager
[10:57] <Cuppa_coffee> so, nautilus isnt loading?
[10:57] <Rienzilla> I guess so
[10:57] <Rienzilla> rightclick gives me a menu though
[10:57] <Rienzilla> so it did load something
[10:57] <k1l_> Rienzilla: that sounds like its not running the 3d parts properly.  untiy needs working 3d
[10:58] <Rienzilla> eh, ok. How do I check?
[10:58] <k1l_> see dmesg what it says about possible errors
[10:59] <neo1691> are android adb and other tools like fastboot there in the official ubuntu repos
[10:59] <Rienzilla> systemd-logind killed by TERM signal (700 seconds after boot)
[10:59] <Rienzilla> neo1691: I think so, yes
[11:00] <k1l_> neo1691: yes, they are
[11:00] <neo1691> k1l_: I am not able to find them using apt-cache
[11:00] <k1l_> neo1691: which ubuntu are you running exactly?
[11:01] <neo1691> 12.04 lts
[11:01] <k1l_> neo1691: well not for 12.04. i think they are included since 12.10 or 13.04
[11:02] <neo1691> okay! :0
[11:12] <Rienzilla> mrml
[11:15] <walroos> hello
[11:15] <walroos> is there any note taking app , that is as good as evernote?
[11:15] <nishantjrxxx> ANyidea how I can configure pam_systemd's kill-session-processes? I put it in pam.d/common-session, but no luck
[11:16] <Cuppa_coffee> walroos, nevernote?
[11:17] <Cuppa_coffee> or nixnote, i cant remember which o/t two was the most recent
[11:17] <Cuppa_coffee> nixnote is the most recent. I need more coffee
[11:18] <walroos> Cuppa_coffee, have u used it?
[11:21] <Rienzilla> hm
[11:21] <Rienzilla> just great :(
[11:21] <Rienzilla> unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity brings back a launch pad, but it disappears as soon as I break it off
[11:25] <skilz> How do I change the icon of an app?
[11:25] <skilz> Where is the folder of apps?
[11:25] <skilz> Somewhere in /usr/share ?
[11:26] <Fuchs> skilz: the applications have files spread over the file system,
[11:26] <trijntje> skilz: usr/share/applications, if you want to change it for one user you can copy the .desktop file to .local/share/applications
[11:26] <Fuchs> skilz: probably you are looking for the .desktop file of that application though, that usually defines what icon to take
[11:26] <skilz> Yeah where is that?
[11:26] <spaceninja> Will I be able to use ubuntu from the pendrive if I follow these steps? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[11:27] <Fuchs> /usr/share/applications  usually, else you can use locate or find
[11:27] <skilz> Thats it :)
[11:27] <trijntje> skilz: you can also use dpkg -L firefox | grep desktop
[11:30] <hpprinter100> anyone know how to enable sslv2 in openssl 1.0.1f?
[11:32] <spaceninja> hmm, maybe it's this one http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[11:38] <jonascj> So I am back with problem installing graphviz using pip in an virtualenv. So I can install pygraphviz like this "pip install pygraphviz" in my 'global' python environment, but when I do the same inside a python virtualenvironment (using the virtualenvwrapper package) I get an error that python.h cannot be found. Any ideas?
[11:38] <pcdroid> how do I install Ubuntu from a USB stick?
[11:39] <cfhowlett> !install|pcdroid
[11:39] <cfhowlett> !usb | pcdroid
[11:39] <jonascj> the global ubuntu packages like libgraphviz-dev, graphviz etc. they should be available both inside and outside the virtualenv, right?
[11:40] <cfhowlett> jonascj they are
[11:41] <webmind> can someone tell me how I can tell unattended-upgrades to also upgrade all stuff from the partner repository?
[11:41] <webmind> can hardly find any documentation on it :(
[11:41] <webmind> link to docs also fine :)
[11:42] <pcdroid> Do I need to format my harddrive before performing the linux installation or will the linux installation help me with this?
[11:42] <webmind> pcdroid, the ubuntu installer will help you with that
[11:43] <cfhowlett> pcdroid installation dialog will help you with partitioning and formatting.  read carefully and ask questions as needed.
[11:43] <webmind> if there is any information you want to keep on the disk, it's adviced to make a backup
[11:43] <cfhowlett> pcdroid this! ^^^
[11:43] <pcdroid> Ty.
[11:44] <pcdroid> Everything I need is in the cloud already
[11:44] <pcdroid> is it possible to not just format but also overwrite?
[11:45] <pcdroid> watching movies, not a problem on ubuntu?
[11:45] <cfhowlett> pcdroid you mean for security?
[11:45] <cfhowlett> pcdroid one question at a time ...
[11:45] <webmind> pcdroid, no problems with watching movies here
[11:46] <cfhowlett> pcdroid install ubuntu-expected-extras and you'll be covered for almost all contingencies
[11:46] <philinux> webmind;~ you need to edit an apt conf file. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates#Using_the_.22unattended-upgrades.22_package
[11:47] <trijntje> pcdroid: you can manually overwrite the partitions, but there is no automatic option for this in the installer unless you install with  full disk encryption
[11:48] <webmind> philinux, I have upgrades working, but it won't upgrade the adobe-flashplugin
[11:48] <philinux> pcdroid;~ do you wish to wipe the drive first
[11:49] <philinux> webmind;~ you probably need to add partner to this file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades:
[11:50] <duckbug`> hi, is there any equivalent of indicator-cpufreq? i use 14.04 LTS on notebook.
[11:51] <pcdroid> I cannot find the torrent link? I am downloading the normal way but if the download fails that is bad.
[11:52] <delliriumy> I have a problem, im looking for package strongswan in 4.6.4 version, i've checked that it was in saucy salamander repositories. I have ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) how can i add repos from saucy salamander?
[11:52] <webmind> philinux, yes, but in what format?
[11:52] <webmind> philinux, I've tried just adding "partner"
[11:52] <trijntje> delliriumy: no, that wont work
[11:53] <webmind> philinux, an example of what I tried: http://pastebin.com/349YdvJk
[11:53] <delliriumy> trijntje: so, whats the best way to download via apt-get strongswan? Except doing it from source?
[11:54] <trijntje> delliriumy: mixing repositories is a bad idea. If you install the version from saucy the update manager will see that a more recent version is available and update it. I think the best way is to install it from source if you *really* need that specific version
[11:54] <Yevgeny> yo
[11:55] <webmind> delliriumy, you need specificly that version?
[11:55] <Yevgeny> Anybody knows how to fix the screen issue on ubuntu, it won't show the whole screen
[11:55] <delliriumy> Yes specificly that version.
[11:55] <trijntje> or maybe manually download the deb, disable upgrades for that program and hope for the best. But if there are a lot of dependencies things will get messed up very fast
[11:55] <Yevgeny> It's like the screen has been moved slightly to the left-down corner
[11:55] <pcdroid> should i go with 14.0.4 LTS for desktop?
[11:55] <delliriumy> Well then i will try from source :/. Thanks for help.
[11:56] <MACscr> ok, should i do my /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules by ATTR{address} or KERNELS id? I am getting horribly inconsistent results
[11:56] <trijntje> Yevgeny: press the auto-center button on your monitor ;)
[11:56] <Yevgeny> trijntje: I tried
[11:56] <trijntje> pcdroid: what kind of pc do you have? Is it recent or old?
[11:56] <Yevgeny> i tried another screen also
[11:56] <trijntje> Yevgeny: system settings -> monitor -> change the resolution?
[11:56] <Yevgeny> it's a raspberry pi
[11:56] <Yevgeny> ok
[11:56] <trijntje> Yevgeny: /join #raspberrypi
[11:56] <Yevgeny> thanks
[11:57] <philinux> webmind;~ found this poking around http://blog.ezyang.com/2010/03/third-party-unattended-upgrade/
[11:57] <jonascj> cfhowlett: then I do not get it why it complains about python.h inside the virtualenv and not outside it
[11:59] <webmind> philinux, thanks, looks interesting
[12:00] <philinux> webmind;~ http://askubuntu.com/questions/80464/how-to-update-adobes-software-unattendedly
[12:00] <philinux> webmind;~ my google foo is stong today
[12:01] <webmind> philinux, sweet, first url didn't help, checking second
[12:02] <philinux> webmind;~ should be easy this but there you go,
[12:04] <webmind> philinux, I've googled and ddg's quite a bit, but didn't find those results. second link seems promising
[12:04] <philinux> webmind;~ good luck
[12:04] <pankaj> hi guys
[12:04] <pankaj>  I have problem with adobe flash plugin for firefox. although i have installed  flashplugin-installer
[12:04] <webmind> philinux, seems to work, thanks!
[12:05] <philinux> webmind;~ which syntax worked?
[12:05] <webmind> "Canonical:${distro_codename}"; and "Canonical precise";
[12:05] <webmind> either
[12:05] <webmind> using the latter now
[12:06] <philinux> webmind;~ so that updates everything?
[12:07] <webmind> philinux, atleast it includes the parner updates now
[12:07] <philinux> webmind;~ result then
[12:09] <webmind> philinux, result then?
[12:09] <philinux> webmind;~ means all sorted
[12:09] <webmind> ah yes :)
[12:09] <webmind> thanks!
[12:10] <pankaj> guys , hi there
[12:10] <pankaj> I have problem with adobe flash plugin for firefox. although i have installed  flashplugin-installer
[12:11] <Abhijit> pankaj, what problem?
[12:11] <pankaj> websites using flash still dont open up
[12:11] <pankaj> like youtube.com
[12:11] <Abhijit> pankaj, restarted firefox?
[12:12] <pankaj> restarted computer itself
[12:12] <ello_govna> Is it possible on ext4 to set a flag so all new files and folders created within a certain directory are set to 755?  I have a service running that creates as 700.
[12:12] <Abhijit> pankaj, which ubuntu and firefox version?
[12:13] <pankaj> firefox 28.0 & ubuntu14.04
[12:13] <pankaj> Abhijit
[12:15] <Abhijit> pankaj, try in chrome?
[12:15] <pankaj> Abhijit , so i have to ditch firefox now
[12:16] <Abhijit> pankaj, "try" ="test"
[12:16] <Abhijit> pankaj, does this help http://askubuntu.com/questions/452489/flash-player-not-working-in-14-04-lts
[12:17] <pankaj> Abhijit ,its working in chrome
[12:17] <philinux> pankaj;~ check flash with firefox here, what does it say, https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[12:17] <Abhijit> pankaj, read that askubuntu link
[12:19] <philinux> pankaj;~ have you got any firefox plugins that might block flash
[12:19] <pankaj> no
[12:19] <pankaj> everything is fresh
[12:20] <pankaj> just installed ubuntu
[12:20] <philinux> pankaj;~ check firefox here https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[12:20] <philinux> pankaj;~ what does it say when you go there?
[12:21] <pankaj> Abhijit , firefox asks whether i want to install missing plugins
[12:21] <pankaj> Abhijit , i clicke to installed
[12:21] <Abhijit> pankaj, philinux is asking you something
[12:22] <pankaj> Abhijit , philinux , it asks to install missing plugins
[12:22] <pankaj>  Abhijit , philinux , but in the end it says no suitable plugins found
[12:22] <philinux> pankaj;~ open terminal ctrl alt t and check this apt-cache policy flashplugin-installer
[12:23] <pankaj> it says : flashplugin-installer:
[12:23] <pankaj>   Installed: 11.2.202.350ubuntu1
[12:23] <pankaj>   Candidate: 11.2.202.350ubuntu1
[12:23] <pankaj>   Version table:
[12:23] <pankaj>  *** 11.2.202.350ubuntu1 0
[12:23] <pankaj>         500 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/multiverse amd64 Packages
[12:23] <unopaste> pankaj you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[12:25] <philinux> pankaj;~ you seem to have not updated you should now be on firefox 30 and flash version  394
[12:25] <pankaj> philinux it says http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=9aT4Y1fC
[12:26] <philinux> pankaj;~ try updating with software updater
[12:26] <pankaj> ok
[12:28] <ubuntu> privacy
[12:31] <pcdroid> OK, a stupid question. if there is a virus on my Windows PC. If I download Ubuntu on this PC, format the HD and install ubuntu from a USB, is there any risk the virus can slip in to ubuntu? like corrup the USB then be installed with ubuntu? sorry if this is hilariously stupid.
[12:32] <ikonia> pcdroid: no
[12:32] <_shaps_> pcdroid: no
[12:33] <pankaj> pcdroid : not possible
[12:33] <pankaj> pcdroid : in case something else is ur problem ,elaborate
[12:34] <Cuppa_coffee> pcdroid, sounds like massive overkill
[12:38] <chan89> i have a weird problem in my ubuntu laptop..
[12:39] <chan89> i am running older version .. 12.10 i think..
[12:39] <[Abhijit]> !12.10
[12:39] <chan89> sorry. 12.04 on this laptop.
[12:40] <chan89> so this dropbox tray icon doesn't show up at all even though dropbox is running in the background
[12:40] <chan89> files sync. dropbox works. but the tray icon doesn't show up.
[12:40] <chan89> i remember installing a lib tray package sometime in the past which resolved the issue but after a couple of days, the issue resurfaced
[12:41] <chan89> so everytime i want to see the tray icon, i have to open the terminal and do dropbox stop && dropbox start
[12:51] <e3m91> Hi
[12:53] <leeyaa> hello
[12:53] <leeyaa> do you know what i need to install in order to control fan speeds from ubuntu 14.04 LTS ? supermicro server
[13:00] <philinux> chan89;~ check this is installed > apt-cache policy libappindicator1
[13:00] <Meerkat> I'm having trouble with fglrx-updates. The package is trying to patch a fix for the 3.14 kernel but I am on 3.13. I assume this is why it fails. How can I delete that patch file from the package?
[13:03] <Abhijit> kindly help for my preseed network settings with ubuntu issue here http://askubuntu.com/questions/497609/ubuntu-do-not-follow-seed-file-for-network-settings
[13:04] <chan89> philinux: shows installed. 0.4.92-0ubuntu1.1
[13:08] <philinux> chan89;~ what about apt-cache policy dropbox-tray
[13:09] <chan89> holy cow. unable to locate
[13:09] <chan89> how to install it?
[13:10] <philinux> chan89;~ i think that is a red herring hang on
[13:11] <philinux> chan89;~ this, http://askubuntu.com/questions/182567/dropbox-icon-in-tray-is-missing
[13:12] <philinux> chan89;~ i'm on 14.04 by the way
[13:12] <Elm3rl1ns> a
[13:14] <philinux> chan89;~ from synaptic Nautilus Dropbox is an extension that integrates the Dropbox web service with your GNOME Desktop. Installing this package will download the proprietary dropbox binary from dropbox.com.
[13:15] <chan89> i'll need to update my hardware before i can switch to 14.04
[13:16] <chan89> btw, that link was helpful in a way
[13:16] <chan89> but nautilus-dropbox wont install coz of some broken dependencies
[13:16] <chan89> or broken package contents or something
[13:16] <chan89> mostly thinking that it's a compatibility issue.. 12.04 thing
[13:16] <chan89> anyway, i re-installed dropbox
[13:16] <chan89> let's see what happens
[13:16] <chan89> thanks philinux!
[13:30] <leeyaa> how to find out if i can control fan speeds from the os ? here is output from ipmitool http://bpaste.net/show/Eh18GNfJzkiRAzqpxE3z/
[13:30] <piero87> ciao
[13:31] <bcvery> !sensors | leeyaa
[13:32] <leeyaa> bcvery: i did install it it detects only cpu temp
[13:32] <bcvery> leeyaa, have you tried fancontrol
[13:32] <bcvery> !info fancontrol
[13:33] <leeyaa> bocephus: yeah it says /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[13:33] <leeyaa> so i am looking for a way to find out if fans can be controlled on this server
[13:33] <alazare619> I have a roomate whom I belive is stealing stuff from my house I have  ubuntu 14.04 instaleld along with a webcam attached to the pc but whenever I have it set to motion capture the status on light turns on and it takes a second for the picture to get taken so I've gotten some suspicious stuff but nothing incriminating is there a way to turn off the motion activation?
[13:33] <alazare619> blah
[13:33] <leeyaa> the motherboard seems to be able to control them but there is no options in bios
[13:33] <alazare619> is there a way to turn off the status on light***
[13:33] <leeyaa> alazare619: break it ;p
[13:38] <alazare619> any other suggesstions besides breaking the led >_<
[13:38] <Aki-Thinkpad> I am on ubuntu, and I want to start doing interviews with individuals using those shirt clip mics. I want two, for myself and the person in question. Would this hooked up by having two usb slots filled for the mics, or would two mics share one slot?
[13:38] <Aki-Thinkpad> Also, what software can I use for recording?
[13:39] <cfhowlett> Aki-Thinkpad 1. #opensource musicians   2. 2 mics would be best  3. sound recorder or Audacity
[13:39] <ikonia> Aki-Thinkpad: you can use whatever pre-amp configuration you feel best
[13:40] <ikonia> Aki-Thinkpad: I'd have serious reservations about mastering options with linux
[13:40] <Aki-Thinkpad> ikonia, yah... maybe I'll just grab ubuntu studio; its a bit easier with jack from what I remember
[13:41] <cfhowlett> Aki-Thinkpad how much fidelity do you need?  professional level?  then do it right, get a proper interface and mics.  the presonus 1 Box is a decent entry level kit and is linux compatible
[13:42] <Aki-Thinkpad> cfhowlett, I am a road warrior, and just want to do mini tutorials
[13:42] <Aki-Thinkpad> cfhowlett, like literally; I live on the road, and everything I carry is on my back
[13:42] <cfhowlett> Aki-Thinkpad so ... portability and mobility!  got it!  (me too.  I sold my 1box before I moved to beijing)
[13:43]  * Aki-Thinkpad looks at 1 box
[13:44] <Aki-Thinkpad> yah; way too big.
[13:44] <Aki-Thinkpad> :P
[13:44] <Aki-Thinkpad> thanks both
[13:44] <cfhowlett> Aki-Thinkpad try this then: enhanced external mic for your smartphone.  lots of good ones for Apple devices and android phones.  at least then you get some decent input to edit and play with.  also: "Podcasting with Audacity" is available for epub or hardcopy
[13:45] <Aki-Thinkpad> I have no smartphone yet; I am waiting for the ubuntu phone to come out
[13:45] <cfhowlett> Aki-Thinkpad so 2015 - 2016?
[13:45] <Aki-Thinkpad> actually on that, has miezu or BQ released their first model yet?
[13:45] <Aki-Thinkpad> cfhowlett, well funny enough; I am developing for the platform... I just want to make sure whatever I buy, its made and tested well with the platform
[13:45] <cfhowlett> Aki-Thinkpad of course not ... thus the '16  time estimate
[13:46] <kostkon> cfhowlett, late 2014
[13:46] <Aki-Thinkpad> ^
[13:47] <cfhowlett> kostkon ... :) it's JULY 2014 - how late is late?  I'm in China / Meizu ground zero.  No buntu phone announced or delivered ...
[13:47]  * cfhowlett will believe it when he sees it ...
[13:47] <kostkon> cfhowlett, october-november
[13:49] <Aki-Thinkpad> kostkon, has the hardware been announced?
[13:49] <cfhowlett> Aki-Thinkpad there was  a demo meizu shown about 3 months ago in shanghai ... nothing since that I know of.
[13:49] <cfhowlett> !touch | Aki-Thinkpad would know more
[14:10] <repozitor> i'm wanna to block all internet connection for my users, and i done it by iptables, but they still can use ssh+tunneling for downloading.
[14:10] <repozitor> how to block ssh+blocking?
[14:13] <ssarah> guys, in the ubuntu 12.04.04 create a new partition menu it appears that 1 megabyte is 1.000.000 bytes. this is probably relevant to an error as when i put 8012 megabytes as the field, it changes my partition size to 8011
[14:13] <ssarah> is this true? if yes, how do i report this
[14:14] <cfhowlett> ssarah 1 MB is NEVER exactly spot on - I don't remember why, but it's a fact.
[14:15] <ssarah> ok, but still, 1megabyte is not a milion bytes
[14:15] <function9> repozitor: use ufw
[14:15] <ssarah> this is wrong info, if not wrong code
[14:15] <repozitor> what is ufw?
[14:15] <ssarah> or is it?
[14:15] <cfhowlett> ssarah ask in ##linux for why
[14:15] <trijntje> ssarah: the new standard says MB=1000, MiB=1024
[14:15] <cfhowlett> !ufw| repozitor
[14:15] <ssarah> ah, i see
[14:16] <carif> does anyone know if the lenovo t540 supports ubuntu latest? its not listed in the cert website.
[14:16] <ssarah> let me test it out
[14:16] <repozitor> i know what is iptables, but i can't to make it's rule
[14:16] <trijntje> carif: its rare for hardware to be certified, but its easy to test for yourself with a live usb
[14:17] <function9> repozitor: use ufw, get a gui like gufw, make your life a bit easier
[14:19] <function9> carif: get certified equipment, save yourself the hassles
[14:19] <cfhowlett> carif this ^^^ dell xps13 developer for example
[14:20] <repozitor> function9, i want to know it's command
[14:20] <repozitor> because i want to do it on many linux dist
[14:21] <repozitor> like ubuntu/CentOS/redhat
[14:21] <repozitor> ..
[14:21] <function9> repozitor: to easy, install gufw
[14:21] <punkgeek> can i encription /root with LUKS ?
[14:22] <trijntje> !root
[14:22] <punkgeek> so can i encript /var ? :D
[14:23] <trijntje> punkgeek: what exactly do you want to do? You can install ubuntu with full disk encryption, that will encrypt everything except /boot
[14:31] <subcool> Hey, i just bought a 1tb seagate hybrid. But it only shows as one large drive.
[14:32] <subcool> Its supposed to come with a 8gb ssd. how do i make use of it.
[14:32] <trijntje> subcool: isn't that by design? The ssd is used internally by the HD to optimise performance?
[14:32] <subcool> got me..
[14:33] <subcool> ive done a bit of reading on it- but i havent really found much on it.. other than advertising
[14:37] <philinux> subcool;~ have a read http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/do-more/laptop-sshd-upgrade-master-dm/
[14:37] <subcool> thats hilarious. as you say that- i googled it again. ANd found my answer. the hybrid drive uses the SSD as a cache
[14:38] <subcool> ah, a bit late.. but ill read it- i read an article from PCworld.
[14:38] <philinux> subcool;~ fascinating, might get one myself This new hybrid storage category uses just a small amount of solid state storage and integrates it with a traditional hard drive.
[14:38] <subcool> that didnt help much.
[14:39] <subcool> but in the end what happened was. The 8gb SSD is used for cache, and indexing. kinda like a ram as well, to the drive.
[14:39] <jcastro> I have 2 of those drives, they're pretty awesome
[14:40] <subcool> i only have the one, i was hoping to be able to see two different paritions and allocated specifically to the ssd. :/
[14:40] <subcool> but we shall see.
[14:40] <jcastro> it doesn't work that way, it's all done transparently to you
[14:40] <sci4me> just went to a new install of 14.04, i have a weird issue where windows just randomly stop responding to mouse clicks... and to be honest, i am really running low on patience... :/ this better be fixable lol.. otherwise back to 13.10
[14:40] <jcastro> WD makes a drive like that though
[14:41] <jcastro> subcool, http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=1190
[14:42] <philinux> subcool;~ thanks for raising this very interesting http://www.anandtech.com/show/6816/seagate-announces-laptop-and-desktop-sshds-solid-state-hybrid-drives
[14:42] <subcool> i have to install flash, lol - i just install kubuntu to this machine.
[14:44] <cfhowlett> !flash | subcool
[14:44] <TeraJL> can someone test for me if the "send to workspace #" hotkey is already working on ubuntu?
[14:45] <subcool> lol - its cool
[14:45] <subcool> i got it,
[14:45] <subcool> i literally just installed it an hour ago
[14:45] <subcool> and im doing system updates, and downloading the newer 14.lts as we speak
[14:47] <subcool> wish these drives would cache the writes as well. That woulda made my day
[14:47] <sci4me> :/ maybe i should go back to 13.10?
[14:47] <subcool> im on 12, and was avoiding 13.. but ... since im starting fresh, ill go with 14. and since its LTS
[14:47] <subcool> although its a yearly upgrade, they really should wait every two years
[14:48] <subcool> although its a yearly upgrade, they really should wait every two years
[14:48] <subcool> ops
[14:48] <xangua> subcool: LTS is every two years
[14:48] <biledemon> Hi. I have a computer with a 120gb ssd and a 1tb hdd. I want to install Ubuntu to the ssd and Windows 8 to the HDD. I will of course be installing Windows first. Will Ubuntus' grub detect Windows after installation?
[14:48] <cfhowlett> subcool LTS releases every 2 years and currently has 5 years support lifetime
[14:49] <subcool> yeah, but after lts 12, EVERYTHING was pushing for an upgrade to 13, and it really hinder me this year
[14:49] <TeraJL> what i asked for was for people using ubuntu LTS 14.04 unity
[14:49] <subcool> i had troubles with sooo many parts of it. kernels, support- it was totally annoying
[14:50] <philinux> TeraJL;~ yep ctrl shift alt (arrow keys) works here
[14:50] <subcool> my virtual box, vmware ... it was a night mare
[14:50] <subcool> luckly i spent this year reaquanting with win8
[14:50] <TeraJL> philinux: no, i was talking about the specific workspace shortcuts, "move window to workspace 1", "move window to workspace 2" etc..
[14:51] <philinux> TeraJL;~ yep worky here
[14:52] <snooi> how can i run ios games on ubuntu?
[14:52] <cfhowlett> snooi nope.  not happening.
[14:52] <cfhowlett> !steam | snooi
[14:53] <TeraJL> philinux: using unity 3d? because i've had that problem for so long that i've changed distro and i wanted to be sure, i use allot like: alt+shift+1,alt+shift+2,alt+shift+3... to move the window (ps: switching workspace worked fine)
[14:53] <snooi> cfhowlett: there are several reports of people managing to do it
[14:53] <subcool> bbl- stuff to do and rebooting to the updates.
[14:53] <subcool> thanks guys.
[14:53] <TeraJL> and thanks, for testing it out philinux
[14:53] <philinux> TeraJL;~ yep unity 3d 14.04
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> snooi  try and ask them how they do it
[14:54] <cfhowlett> snooi then see those reports for sources - NEVER seen an ios success story here, but hey = prove me wrong!
[14:54] <philinux> TeraJL;~ you have to enable workspaces from system settings> appearance
[14:54] <snooi> MonkeyDust: too old
[14:54] <philinux> TeraJL;~ wobbly windows works too
[14:54] <snooi> cfhowlett: there is always the solution of running os X on vmware, and installing the officiel simulator there
[14:54] <Glycan> Is there a resonable/easy way to focus my computer's resources on chrome?
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> snooi  better than nothing
[14:54] <Glycan> chromium*
[14:55] <cfhowlett> snooi right.  problem solved then.  good luck with that.  :)
[14:55] <snooi> cfhowlett: what problem do you see with this solution
[14:55] <snooi> MonkeyDust: yes :)
[14:55] <TeraJL> philinux: yea i know, i had workspaces and could switch trough them, but to move windows between them i could only use alt+control+shift+<arrows>, i could not send them to a specific workspace by number... i found here what seems to be the same problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1756289
[14:56] <cfhowlett> snooi go for it!  I would LOVE to know that this works.
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> snooi  if you manage to do it, come back here and report
[14:56] <philinux> TeraJL;~ yes that is the shortcut ctrl shift alt arrow key
[14:56] <philinux> TeraJL;~ or from right click window
[14:56] <Cyb3rty> hey guys. what's better: bumblebee or nvidia prime?
[14:56] <snooi> cfhowlett: i'll report back in a few weeks, i cannot download anything with this connection :(
[14:57] <snooi> just a few mos
[14:57] <TeraJL> philinux: no, that is "switch window to workspace on the right/top/left/bottom" , and that is working, what does not work its "Move window to workspace 1/2/3/4"
[14:59] <introom> hi
[14:59] <philinux> TeraJL;~ i see "move to another workspace >" click and chose which one
[14:59] <introom> does ubuntu have a distro that has the most recent packages as archlinux?
[15:00] <Pici> introom: no.
[15:01] <TeraJL> philinux: ? that is if you right click on the top bar, i'm talking about keyboard shortcuts/hotkeys
[15:01] <Cyb3rty> could you help me?
[15:01] <philinux> TeraJL;~ what keys i'lll test it now
[15:02] <philinux> TeraJL;~ ctrl shit alt arrow key moves the focused window to the workspace
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> introom  you mean, like, a rolling release? http://www.datamation.com/open-source/pros-and-cons-of-a-ubuntu-rolling-release-1.html
[15:03] <raven00> I installed a Dynex wireless G card in a machine running 14.04 LTS and it does not recognize it, what can I do
[15:04] <TeraJL> philinux: (thank you allot for taking your time), what i really wanted (and use on others DE) is, alt+1, alt+2, alt+3, alt+4 to switch to workspace 1/2/3/4, and i use alt+shift+1,alt+shift+2,alt+shift+3,alt+shift+4 to send the window to to workspace 1/2/3/4, it is diferente from the ctrl+shift+alt+arrows... with arrows you don't send to that specific workspace, with the arrows you send to a workspace(up/down/left/right) depending on the one
[15:04] <TeraJL> you are on...
[15:07] <ssarah> hi again guys
[15:07] <ssarah> i got a new laptop with gsm support
[15:07] <ssarah> i put the card in and i try to add the connection but it doesnt list any devices
[15:07] <philinux> TeraJL;~ i think you can set up that with keyboard shortcuts
[15:07] <TeraJL> philinux: there is that shortcut there but it is broken independently of the keys i put on
[15:08] <TeraJL> it never works
[15:08] <philinux> ah
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> TeraJL  system settings > keyboard > shortcuts > workspace management
[15:09] <biledemon> Hi. I have a computer with a 120gb ssd and a 1tb hdd. I want to install Ubuntu to the ssd and Windows 8 to the HDD. I will of course be installing Windows first. Will Ubuntus' grub detect Windows after installation?
[15:09] <mustmodify> On an ubuntu slice, it takes about 2 seconds to open up a small configuration file in vim. I just noticed this slice doesn't have any room for a swapfile. Might that be the issue?
[15:09] <ikonia> biledemon: should do
[15:10] <introom> MonkeyDust: rolling release. yes.
[15:10] <introom> I think I should go with debian sid
[15:10] <introom> it's not that unstable but it should be rolling always.
[15:10] <TeraJL> MonkeyDust: i know, but even if i put a simple shortcut there it does not work, and thats why i've asked to test it, i want to switch to ubuntu but i relly on that shortcut allot, and i want to know if it was fixed already
[15:10] <cfhowlett> introom use what works for you.  rolling release for ubuntu was proposed, discussed and rejected.
[15:11] <biledemon> ikonia, thanks
[15:13] <philinux> TeraJL;~ MonkeyDust keyboard shorts bare under navigation. just tried some new combo and nothing works
[15:13] <philinux> e.g shift alt 2 for workspace 2
[15:14] <gebbione> hi all
[15:14] <gebbione> apt-get install tells me application is installed
[15:14] <gebbione> but if i look for its location with which
[15:14] <gebbione> it does not find it
[15:14] <gebbione> any clues?
[15:15] <TeraJL> philinux: yes, the first time i tought it was a bug with shift+... but i've tryied other keys that were working like alt+2, and it didn't work to send windows to other workspaces too
[15:15] <SchrodingersScat> gebbione: which package?
[15:15] <gebbione> php
[15:15] <gebbione> i install php5
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> gebbione  try whereis [package]
[15:15] <gebbione> and then run which php
[15:16] <gebbione> whereis php
[15:16] <gebbione> php:
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> gebbione  or locate [package]
[15:18] <webmind> is there a proper way of recovering from a do-release-upgrade when there was a powerfailure?
[15:19] <compdoc> ouch
[15:19] <SchrodingersScat> gebbione: my 'which php5' is /usr/bin/php5
[15:19] <gebbione> SchrodingersScat, thats what it should be on my vm too but not sure what changed in puppet provisioning or ubuntu, it is not doing it anymore
[15:20] <compdoc> webmind, if no one knows, be sure to try the mailing list
[15:21] <webmind> compdoc, re-installing is easier :)
[15:22] <philinux> webmind;~ you could try dpkg --configure -a
[15:22] <compdoc> might be
[15:22] <chan89> why wud my task bar go unresponsive occasionally? ubuntu 12.04
[15:22] <chan89> like i can click on the wi-fi icon but i can't click and select a wifi network
[15:22] <chan89> only happens with the wifi network tray icon. dropbox, tomboy, battery and other tray icons work normally
[15:23] <webmind> philinux, 'too many errors'
[15:23] <webmind> now trying apt-get -f install
[15:24] <webmind> but I was wondering if there was someway of recovering from it
[15:24] <philinux> webmind;~ yep i've come across that too many errors
[15:24] <webmind> like a proper way
[15:24] <webmind> the system doesn't seem to know which version it's at now
[15:25] <philinux> webmind;~ try running do-release-upgrade again
[15:26] <webmind> philinux, yeah, it didn't think there was anything to upgrade
[15:26] <alazare619> I have a roomate whom I belive is stealing stuff from my house I have  ubuntu 14.04 instaleld along with a webcam attached to the pc but whenever I have it set to motion capture the status on light turns on and it takes a second for the picture to get taken so I've gotten some suspicious stuff but nothing incriminating is there a way to turn off the status led?
[15:26] <ikonia> stratoka__: no
[15:26] <ikonia> stratoka__: sorry, not you
[15:26] <ikonia> alazare619: no
[15:26] <ikonia> alazare619: it would need to be in the api for the device
[15:27] <ikonia> alazare619: you where told this earlier and advised to break the led
[15:27] <webmind> alazare619, tape
[15:27] <sepero> alazare619: electrical tape
[15:27] <mustmodify> lost my brain I want to time how long it takes to run irb then immediately exit it by sending 'exit' via stdin.
[15:27] <mustmodify> I've done it before but now I've forgotten how.
[15:27] <mustmodify> something like irb < echo 'exit'
[15:27] <webmind> alazare619, also motion is fairly quick in recording motion
[15:27] <mustmodify> but that isn't working
[15:27] <alazare619> its a logitech b930 its a fairly decent webcam
[15:28] <ikonia> alazare619: what does that have to do with it ?
[15:29] <sepero> alazare619: electrical tape won't let light shine through
[15:29] <philinux> webmind;~ you could try this but a reinstall will be quicker sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:29] <webmind> philinux, I'm in that process now
[15:30] <philinux> webmind;~ sudo apt-get clean then try do-release-upgrade
[15:31] <TeraJL> philinux, MonkeyDust found the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/898087
[15:31] <TeraJL> it says fix released but its not fixed :/
[15:33] <ShotokanZH> hi evryone
[15:33] <function9> hi
[15:33] <sepero> hi'
[15:33] <ShotokanZH> i need help and i hope some of you can help me..
[15:33] <sepero> heyo
[15:33] <ShotokanZH> let's go straight to the business:
[15:33] <sepero> funny business?
[15:33] <ShotokanZH> it depends on what's funny for ya
[15:34] <ShotokanZH> btw:
[15:34] <ShotokanZH> i'm stuck at boot with error:
[15:35] <ShotokanZH> ALERT! /dev/mapper/ubuntu2014--vg-root does not exist.
[15:35] <philinux> TeraJL;~ email this chappy https://launchpad.net/~didrocks
[15:36] <ShotokanZH> sepero, can you help me? :)
[15:37] <sepero> ShotokanZH: Looks like a problem with LVM
[15:38] <skilz> Hey guys where is the best place to ask about empathy?
[15:38] <sepero>  #empathy ?
[15:38] <sepero> ShotokanZH: Unfortunately, my knowledge of LVM is almost nill
[15:39] <ShotokanZH> mine too sepero
[15:39] <ShotokanZH> :<
[15:39] <ShotokanZH> can't boot even using old kernels
[15:39] <skilz> Basically I have a problem with Empathy when I created a GoogleTalk account and IRC, now when I click Accounts it opens for 2 seconds then closes. So I removed the accounts from ~/.mission-control/accounts/accounts.cfg but they are still in empathy when I launch it again.
[15:39] <webmind> philinux, the do-release-upgrade thinks it's on the latest version
[15:39] <ShotokanZH> and as it's a VM i can't do shit.. :<
[15:40] <philinux> webmind;~ what about apt-get install -f
[15:40] <webmind> philinux, that runs now
[15:40] <webmind> takes a while
[15:42] <ShotokanZH> fantastic today... 1 server bricked, one stuck at boot and another one formatted
[15:42] <ShotokanZH> and funny thing is: not my fault.
[15:44] <philinux> webmind;~ did you run apt-get clean
[15:44] <webmind> philinux, no
[15:44] <webmind> but that's just for package cache right?
[15:45] <philinux> webmind;~ yes
[15:47] <webmind> apt-get install -f finished nicely
[15:49] <philinux> webmind;~ try the dpkg --conf etc now
[15:50] <webmind> doing apt-get dist-upgrade now
[15:50] <Bollebib1> Synaptics freezes on startup of the program
[15:50] <Bollebib1> It opens,shows the interface and then goes grey
[15:50] <Bollebib1> I have removed and re-installed it already
[15:50] <Bollebib1> it did work half an hour ago when I was installing some packages I needed to install another program
[15:50] <Bollebib1> What might I be doing wrong?
[15:50] <Bollebib1> I am on ubuntu14.04
[15:50] <unopaste> Bollebib1 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:52] <skilz> goto the online accounts within gnome settings <- How do I do this?
[15:52] <Bollebib1> Synaptic package manager freezes on startup of the program
[15:52] <chan89> guys...
[15:52] <Bollebib1>  It opens,shows the interface and then goes grey
[15:53] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ run it from a terminal see if any errors
[15:54] <Bollebib1> philinux: it freezes as well,and I don't get any feedback
[15:54] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ it needs pkexec synaptic
[15:54] <chan89> philinux: that dropbox-tray thing is fixed now! the re-install worked. thanks! :)
[15:54] <Bollebib1> ah
[15:55] <philinux> chan89;~ what did you reinstall?
[15:55] <skilz> ??
[15:55] <Bollebib1> philinux: does it need some time? it is started and frozen,but give me nothing
[15:57] <red45923> I am l for ubuntu software to copy files from hard disk to ipod, any suggestions?
[15:57] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ does software center run ok
[15:57] <Bollebib1> philinux: yes
[15:59] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ is software updater working ok
[16:00] <Bollebib1> philinux: it seems to be,but it doesn't work when I ran synatpics as it thinks synaptics is still running after I killed it
[16:01] <Bollebib1> philinux: but after a restart the update did work
[16:02] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ run a manual update from terminal then try synaptic after it finished sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:03] <Bollebib1> philinux: start synaptic in any way? or via terminal?
[16:03] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ any way
[16:04] <Bollebib1> philinux: freezes again
[16:05] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ odd indeed, you could delete it's config file in your home folder called .synaptic
[16:05] <philinux> config folder that is
[16:05] <chan89> philinux: the dropbox package from the dropbox source/repo
[16:06] <chan89> and the libappindicator1 package
[16:06] <philinux> ah ok
[16:06] <Bollebib1> philinux: /.synaptic is empty
[16:09] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ i have a file in there called synaptic.conf it has these lines http://paste.ubuntu.com/7794147/
[16:10] <Bollebib1> philinux: should I add that as a file?
[16:10] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ nothing to loose
[16:16] <Bollebib1> philinux: then start like normal? or first reboot?
[16:21] <Chris_hubu> hello everyone
[16:22] <despedros> hello
[16:22] <Bollebib1> philinux: didn't work
[16:23] <skilz> Package nss was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[16:23] <skilz> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `nss.pc'
[16:23] <skilz> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[16:23] <skilz> No package 'nss' found
[16:23] <skilz> What do I need to install?
[16:23] <Chris_hubu> I'm here on behalf of my sister (she barely speaks English, she's young), she was running on ubuntu 12.04 LTS and we went for an upgrade to 14.04 LTS. However, we had to uninstall xserver-xorg in order to do so. The upgrade and dist-ugprade went well but after a reboot, there isn't any GUI any more but lightdm is installed. Any clues?
[16:24] <skilz> Chris_hubu, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Chris_hubu: sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[16:25] <Chris_hubu> skilz, she did that already, wasn't enough. ActionParsnip thanks for your input, I'm telling her to try that now.
[16:25] <Bollebib1> philinux: I can maybe show you what packages I installed,maybe you can find a clue what went wrong?
[16:26] <Chris_hubu> I'll let you know, thanks
[16:26] <Chris_hubu> I'm more used to the server Edition, hence my struggle
[16:31] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ sudo apt-get purge synaptic then reinstall it
[16:31] <Bollebib1> philinux: okay
[16:35] <Bollebib1> philinux: didn't work... or should I restart after a purge?
[16:35] <Laurenceb_> hi
[16:35] <Laurenceb_> can anyone help me with bluetooth
[16:36] <Laurenceb_> rfcomm10: 00:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx channel 1 clean
[16:36] <Laurenceb_> ^thats good right?
[16:36] <Laurenceb_> yet i cant connect to it
[16:36] <Laurenceb_> whats wrong?
[16:36] <Laurenceb_> pyserial is giving me "Can't connect to port, ensure device is turned on and connected"
[16:38] <Chris_hubu> hi Laurenceb_ what do you need regarding bluetooth?
[16:39] <Laurenceb_> Can't connect RFCOMM socket: Connection refused
[16:39] <Laurenceb_> if i try rfcomm connect 10
[16:39] <Laurenceb_> the device appears in the device searhc gui tool
[16:40] <Chris_hubu> Remove the paired device from bluetooth settings and add it again, Laurenceb_
[16:43] <Laurenceb_> same errors
[16:43] <Laurenceb_> wtf
[16:43] <Laurenceb_> its connected to "Bluetooth Devices"
[16:43] <Chris_hubu> you're not using ubuntu's bluetooth GUI, are you?
[16:43] <Laurenceb_> i didnt ask it to do that
[16:43] <Laurenceb_> im trying not to
[16:43] <friendlyfascism> Laurenceb_, No acronyms of swearing please.
[16:43] <Laurenceb_> but its firing up by itself and grabbing device
[16:43] <Laurenceb_> lol your name is appropriate
[16:44] <friendlyfascism> Laurenceb_, ;)
[16:44] <Chris_hubu> hahaha
[16:44] <Laurenceb_> so what do i do?
[16:44] <Laurenceb_> how do i fix this?
[16:44] <Chris_hubu> why not using the GUI?
[16:44] <Laurenceb_> ok
[16:45] <Laurenceb_> but that will connect it as rfcomm0
[16:45] <Chris_hubu> it works well or at least it used to last time I used it, on ubuntu 13
[16:45] <Laurenceb_> i want it to be rfcomm10
[16:45] <Chris_hubu> oh
[16:45] <Laurenceb_> so ive edited rfcomm.conf to add the device
[16:45] <Laurenceb_> but how do i connect to it?
[16:45] <buck1> do any of you have a linux laptop with 16GB and a warranty?
[16:45] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ i'm guessing something amiss with the os. but lets see your sources, cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[16:45] <bekks> buck1: How is that related to Ubuntu?
[16:46] <Bollebib1> philinux:it's a fresh install though,and it worked half an hour ago
[16:46] <Chris_hubu> why do you want to change it, Laurenceb_ ?
[16:46] <buck1> bekks: how is a linux laptop related to ubuntu?
[16:46] <buck1> because i'd be installing ubuntu.
[16:46] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ maybe a reboot might help
[16:46] <Laurenceb_> Chrisd_ghdfsgh
[16:46] <Laurenceb_> as its device number 10
[16:46] <Bollebib1> philinux: rebooted multiple times already
[16:47] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ strike that then
[16:47] <Laurenceb_> i have ten devices
[16:47] <Laurenceb_> the others work fine
[16:47] <Laurenceb_> but i did the config for those a while ago
[16:47] <Chris_hubu> ok, could there possibly be an issue with the device?
[16:47] <friendlyfascism> buck1, ask a relevant question, your manufacturer would cover the warranty.
[16:47] <Laurenceb_> something has gone wrong recently
[16:47] <Chris_hubu> can't you copy their config and adjust it to the 10th device?
[16:47] <Laurenceb_> Chris_hubu: no, it works as rfomm0 with the gui
[16:47] <Laurenceb_> lol
[16:47] <Chris_hubu> ok
[16:48] <buck1> i dont have a manufacturer... because I can't find such a machine as yet.
[16:48] <Bollebib1> philinux: the only thing I can think of after the source that I will paste
[16:48] <Bollebib1> is that I installed a package that conflicts with synaptics somehow
[16:48] <Laurenceb_> so can someone walk me through what i should do, and i will see where it fails/
[16:48] <Laurenceb_> ?
[16:48] <Chris_hubu> sorry Laurenceb_ but you lost me, I haven't that much experience with bluetooth. :/
[16:48] <friendlyfascism> buck1, Ah an imaginary scenario, not really what we support here.
[16:48] <Laurenceb_> so atm i have /dev/rfcomm 1 through 8
[16:49] <Laurenceb_> sudo rfcomm bind 10
[16:49] <Laurenceb_> rfcomm10: 00:06:66:62:23:CD channel 1 clean
[16:49] <Laurenceb_> screen /dev/rfcomm10
[16:49] <pa> hello
[16:49] <Laurenceb_> it disconnects
[16:50] <pa> can i ask here about ubuntu kernel compilation?
[16:50] <Bollebib1> philinux: pastebin.com/MYP2aV4W
[16:50] <pa> i tried to follow the guide and compile the stock ubuntu kernel source, but it seems to fail in the dahdi driver
[16:50] <pa> /var/lib/dkms/dahdi/2.5.0.1+dfsg-1ubuntu3/build/drivers/dahdi/xpp/xbus-sysfs.c:460:2: error: unknown field ‘drv_attrs’ specified in initializer
[16:50] <pa>   .drv_attrs = xpp_attrs,
[16:50] <pa>   ^
[16:50] <pa> ops
[16:50] <R532> Running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, trying to use a Dynex Enhanced Wireless G PCI card. It isn't recognized. Tried looking at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1323649 but the package described is not in 14.04 repositories. What do I do
[16:50] <pa> well, like that
[16:50] <unopaste> pa you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:50] <friendlyfascism> pa, your nick does not tab complete can you add some more to it.
[16:50] <Laurenceb_> f this
[16:50] <Laurenceb_> ill reboot to windows
[16:51] <pa> friendlyfascism, well, i registered like that already some years ago :)
[16:51] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ whats this one ? deb http://www.duinsoft.nl/pkg debs all
[16:51] <Bollebib1> flash
[16:52] <bekks> Too bad he just left. HP, Dell, Samsung, IBM, Acer offer laptops with 16GB RAM and warranty.
[16:52] <wdbl> I can't write to /usr/local or /opt on a default install of Ubuntu server - is this different than the "desktop" edition?
[16:52] <friendlyfascism> pa, Ah, cool.
[16:52] <wdbl> If not, where am I supposed to put source files if I don't want to put them in my home directory?
[16:52] <Bollebib1> philinux: strange
[16:52] <Bollebib1> I just purged again but synaptics is still active on my system,shouldn't it have been uninstalled?
[16:52] <bekks> wdbl: No. Thats an intended behaviour.
[16:53] <bekks> !sudo | wdbl
[16:53] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ try editing sources and comment out that line
[16:53] <Anxi80> Is it possible to get a date stamped log or list of installs updates from ubuntu's package manager?
[16:53] <wdbl> bekks: thanks - so if I need to git clone something into a shared directory, I always have to use sudo?
[16:53] <pa> i found a page in russina about the same problem
[16:53] <coventry> In unity, how do I make a keybinding to iterate all windows of a certain class (all emacsen, all terminals, all browsers, that sort of thing?)
[16:53] <pa> http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=242929.0
[16:53] <pa> it says that the kernel modules are old
[16:53] <bekks> wdbl: No. If you want to use root privileges, then you need sudo.
[16:54] <pa> (i mean, google translate says)
[16:54] <Bollebib1> philinux: so just remove duinsoft from sources?
[16:54] <wdbl> bekks: is there a non-home directory that everyone can read and write from?
[16:54] <Symphonym> Anyone know a safe/light-weight password manager for Ubuntu?
[16:54] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ just put a # infront like the src line
[16:54] <bekks> wdbl: Only /tmp and /var/tmp - but you dont want to put other files than temporary stuff in there.
[16:55] <wdbl> bekks: ok thanks. I think I'm just going to change the permissions on /opt/ then
[16:55] <bekks> wdbl: Just create a directory, and grant permissions as you like.
[16:55] <bekks> wdbl: Dont change permissions on /opt.
[16:55] <wdbl> bekks: why not?
[16:55] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ if i try to access that link in firefox it says forbidden no access
[16:55] <bekks> wdbl: create /opt/mystuff and change permissions on /opt/mystuff
[16:55] <wdbl> bekks: I'm making it more accessible, not less accessible
[16:56] <Bollebib1> philinux: and now try synaptic again?
[16:56] <pa> ah, here: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/%2Bsource/dahdi-linux/%2Bbug/1312421&usg=ALkJrhizF-ahAyYXJ6U7mX3JvKl2c6Mung
[16:56] <wdbl> bekks: yeah that's what I meant. I'm going to make /opt/local and that will be the root of my "shared" workspace
[16:56] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ yeah
[16:56] <Bollebib1> philinux: or uninstall/reinstall first?
[16:56] <pa> really? still open on an LTS release?
 I'm here on behalf of my sister (she barely speaks English, she's young), she was running on ubuntu 12.04 LTS and we went for an upgrade to 14.04 LTS. However, we had to uninstall xserver-xorg in order to do so. The upgrade and dist-ugprade went well but after a reboot, there isn't any GUI any more but lightdm is installed. Any clues?
 Chris_hubu: sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[16:57] <Chris_hubu> still no GUI, any clues?
[16:57] <TJ-> pa: bug #1312421  ?
[16:58] <Bollebib1> philinux: doesn't work
[16:58] <pa> yes
[16:58] <coventry> Chris_hubu: Control-Alt-F1, log in to virtual console, "less ~/.xsession-errors"
[16:59] <coventry> Chris_hubu: Also, "ls -alt ~ | less" to check whether any other homedir files are being modified during login.
[17:00] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ I put that line in my sources and synaptic ran ok, i'm out of options. Maybe you did something unawares
[17:00] <Bollebib1> philinux: is there a way to save my unity settings quickly? i might just reinstall,I guess...
[17:01] <Chris_hubu> thanks coventry, I'll ask her to do that (it's not easy, she is booting to windows to communicate to me via skype and then restarts on ubuntu, tries it, etc, I don't live in the same country any more).
[17:01] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ backup your home folder
[17:02] <Bollebib1> philinux: okay,thnx for trying
[17:02] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ iirc the installer has an option to preserve home or just not format the partition
[17:02] <coventry> Chris_hubu: Get her to do C-Alt-F2 to start another virt console, and start a text-based chat program there.
[17:02] <friendlyfascism> Chris_hubu, Does she need a graphic driver installed, they do not follow upgrades.
[17:03] <Bollebib1> philinux: does nothing in home affect that?
[17:03] <friendlyfascism> Chris_hubu, for example nvidia any not auto installed.
[17:03] <coventry> Chris_hubu: Also, if she has a working windows install, why not just run ubuntu subordinate to that?
[17:03] <Chris_hubu> coventry, that's beyond her capabilities on a computer. She's only 16. friendlyfascism yes but she already did sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:04] <friendlyfascism> Chris_hubu, That is most likely the issue than
[17:04] <Chris_hubu> she wants to get rid of windows for good. the windows install is her backup plan
[17:04] <Chris_hubu> friendlyfascism, she should remove nvidia-current?
[17:04] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ dont think so but backup important stuff anyway, someone else may know. I always clean install and restore .hidden files from my data partition
[17:05] <friendlyfascism> Chris_hubu, I can't say this is outside what I know is all.
[17:05] <Chris_hubu> ok
[17:05] <TJ-> pa: The version seems strange, it is inherited from Saucy (13.10) *but* the Universe components are supposed to be synced from Debian for each release, and yet the current Debian version is 1:2.6.1+dsfg2-1 since January 2013. I can't see why that failed to be synced. Best to email the Ubuntu MOTU maintainers about it
[17:05] <Bollebib1> philinux: there is no data yet,so that doesn't matter
[17:05] <Bollebib1> resetting all as you like it is just such a bore
[17:06] <coventry> Chris_hubu: Wow, I never met a 16-year-old girl who would want to shave that yak, she must be cool. :-)
[17:07] <Chris_hubu> she mostly uses her computer for facebook, team fortress 2 and minecraft. and her homework (google mostly). She saw me using ubuntu and used it in the past, she found it cool (especially the ubuntu software center, to try out casual games to kill time here and there)
[17:07] <Chris_hubu> since all her windows habits work very well on ubuntu, she wants to adopt it, because she's sick of malwares, adwares, etc on windows (she NEVER unchecks "do you also want to install that piece of crap while you're at it" thingie when she install softwares :D)
[17:08] <Bollebib1> Chris_hubu: couldn't she just talke to you via facebook? that way she doesn't need to boot into windows each time
[17:08] <Bollebib1> (sorry for butting in ^^)
[17:08] <mustmodify> so if I say export A='blah', what kind of variable is that?
[17:08] <mustmodify> environmental variable?
[17:08] <Chris_hubu> how so? she doesn't have a GUI. Don't be sorry. She is patient as well though. :) And has good thinking. Wow I'm proud of her!
[17:08] <Bollebib1> philinux: dong a complete reinstall,thnx for trying =)
[17:08] <Bollebib1> *doing
[17:09] <pa> TJ-, thanks
[17:09] <pa> i see there's also a patch
[17:09] <pa> maybe i'll try the patch
[17:12] <Chris_hubu> silly question, this channel obviously only supports ubuntu-related questions right? Does it include ubuntu server?
[17:13] <trijntje> Chris_hubu: yes, but there is also a dedicated channel for that, #ubuntu-server
[17:13] <Chris_hubu> cheers
[17:13] <DJones> Chris_hubu: Yes it does, although more specialised answers may be forethcoming in #ubuntu-server
[17:17] <philinux> Bollebib1;~ no worries, make a note of all the stuff you install ;)
[17:19] <rihbyne> hello is there a tweak tool for decreasing the width of the top bar
[17:20] <softballs> Hi, i was wondering if anyone would be willing to give some help on installing a vpn on my ubuntu server, could use some advice what to install etc
[17:21] <Chris_hubu> coventry, she gets that: -bash: less~/xsession-errors: No Such file or directory
[17:21] <pa> softballs, openvpn
[17:21] <pa> there is also some ubuntu wiki official page
[17:21] <softballs> yeah i tried following a openvpn tutorial, didn't get it to work
[17:22] <skilz> If I have a file in my /home/user/  "File" and it is executable, how can I apply a custom icon to it?
[17:22] <softballs> so was wondering if openvpn was the thing to use (even though i kinda wanted to use it)
[17:22] <pa> i think that's your easiest option
[17:22] <softballs> okay cool, then i will search around for another tutorial and try again
[17:22] <softballs> tnx for info
[17:24] <Chris_hubu> friendlyfascism, any idea regarding what's above? :-(
[17:24] <HelloWorld123> Hi there.  Any ops on?
[17:25] <guntbert> HelloWorld123: if you need to talk to channel ops please join #ubuntu-ops
[17:26] <HelloWorld123> xt guntbert
[17:26] <HelloWorld123> tx guntbert
[17:29] <trijntje> skilz: I think the easies way is to use alacarte to create a starter for the file
[17:29] <rihbyne> hello is there a tweak tool for decreasing the width of the top bar
[17:29] <TJ-> softballs: It is "less ~/.xsession-errors" (note the leading "." in the file-name)
[17:30] <TJ-> softballs: sorry, wrong nick!
[17:30] <HelloWorld123> I've downloaded the rstudio-0.98.953-i386.deb to upgrade my rstudio:amd64 0.98.507, but when I use sudo dpkg -i rstudio-0.98.953-i386.deb to install it, I get the message that they are not "co-installable".  Should I use -r to remove the old one first?  Or is there a more apporpriate way to upgrade?
[17:30] <softballs> TJ-: np!
[17:30] <TJ-> Chris_hubu:  It is "less ~/.xsession-errors" (note the leading "." in the file-name)
[17:30] <TJ-> softballs: As to openvpn, it is probably the easiest to use and most flexible of the VPN solutions
[17:31] <Chris_hubu> oh right thanks, TJ-, I didn't pay attention
[17:31] <softballs> TJ-: yeah that's what i thought too, i following https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/openvpn.html now and i will see how it goes
[17:31] <TJ-> softballs: I'd recommend installing using UDP and a TA cert in addition to the standard client/server certificates
[17:31] <softballs> TJ-: i am fairly new so you need to explain more if i were to understand what you just said ;)
[17:32] <TJ-> softballs: Nominate one machine (preferably a local - maybe VM - host) to install and run the certificate generation on, to keep it secure
[17:32] <softballs> TJ-: i only have one machine (amazon web services)
[17:33] <softballs> TJ-: this is mostly me learning ubuntu :)
[17:33] <pa> well certainly a TCP openvpn would pass through firewalls easier
[17:33] <pa> i have it even on port 80 :)
[17:36] <Janusz> Please recomend an antimalware that work fluently on Ubuntu and has got freeware version for Windows. Eset Nod is nice, but I don't have money this month buy a license.
[17:37] <TJ-> softballs: OK... OpenVPN is based on common SSL/TLS encryption as used for HTTPS (secure web). It's basic mode of operation is that you create your own Certificate Authority (CA) - makes you like Verisign, etc. - and then your CA signs server and client certificates that you create. Both server and clients have copies of the CA public certificate so they can verify the public certificates of each other. In addition, to prevent denial-of-service and spoofing attemp
[17:37] <TJ-> ts, each packet of (UDP) data can have a signature (called Transport Layer Security Authentication - TA) via a shared 'ta.key' private certificate
[17:38] <softballs> TJ-:  oh ok i think i get that
[17:40] <rihbyne> hello is there a tweak tool for decreasing the width of the top bar
[17:41] <friendlyfascism> rihbyne, Desktop?
[17:41] <HelloWorld321> I've downloaded the rstudio-0.98.953-i386.deb to upgrade my rstudio:amd64 0.98.507, but when I use sudo dpkg -i rstudio-0.98.953-i386.deb to install it, I get the message that they are not "co-installable".  Should I use -r to remove the old one first?  Or is there a more apporpriate way to upgrade?
[17:42] <rihbyne> friendlyfascism: yeah
[17:42] <softballs> when i do "source vars" i only get "NOTE: If you run ./clean-all, I will be doing a rm -rf on /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys"
[17:42] <friendlyfascism> rihbyne, which desktop, unity?
[17:42] <rihbyne> friendlyfascism: 14.04
[17:42] <TJ-> softballs: "source" simply reads the file "vars" and includes its environment variables in the current shell environment, for use by subsequent tools
[17:43] <friendlyfascism> rihbyne, Assuming you mean unity the ubuntu desktop, I have not seen any tweak for it, it is incorporated is all.
[17:43] <softballs> TJ-: oh ok, so that message should be ok then?
[17:44] <friendlyfascism> rihbyne, You can resize the left panel horizontally is all.
[17:44] <softballs> TJ-: next command is ./clean-all and then i get "Please source the vars script first (i.e. "source ./vars") Make sure you have edited it to reflect your configuration."
[17:45] <TJ-> softballs: Yes, it is reminding you that one of the variables that has been set (the variable containing "/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys") will cause a later "./clean-all" operation to delete the *vital* key file. In other words, be careful :)
[17:47] <rihbyne> friendlyfascism: thanks but thats was not my question
[17:48] <softballs> TJ-: hmm, when following the guide i should have gotten a keys directory, but i didn't :/
[17:48] <friendlyfascism> rihbyne, I answerd your question and gave you other info, you were unable to even identify the desktop your using. ;)
[17:48] <softballs> TJ-: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/openvpn.html this is the guide im following
[17:49] <friendlyfascism> rihbyne, If you want exact answers you have to be able to identify the scenario at the least.
[17:50] <skulltip> are there any CD desktop images? i dont have any dvds on me
[17:52] <friendlyfascism> skulltip, Lubuntu is small enough for a cd, a usb is generally used anymore.
[17:53] <friendlyfascism> skulltip, A net mini install is tiny.
[17:53] <friendlyfascism> !mini | skulltip
[17:58] <softballs> pa: do you have any clue what i am doing wrong? that guide is not accurate for me :/
[18:07] <TJ-> softballs: Sorry, was elsewhere. Are you running all the commands as root ?
[18:08] <ponyofdeath> hi, can someone help me figure out why libpam-systemd is failing to upgrade on trusty? http://bpaste.net/show/VpDCOlbeJlLTIl9meSa1/
[18:08] <softballs> TJ-:  im using sudo
[18:09] <ltsp20> ve u
[18:09] <ltsp20> gb
[18:09] <ltsp20> love u my love >(
[18:09] <TJ-> softballs: for each command? Or you've done "sudo -i" and then running the commands in the root environment?
[18:09] <softballs> TJ-: nah i have been using sudo for each command
[18:09] <softballs> TJ-: not goot? :)
[18:10] <TJ-> softballs: that'd explain it. sudo per-command will destroy the environment so all those 'var' variables will not be there for subsequent 'sudo' calls. Use "sudo -i" to start an interactive root shell... do everything from that, then return to your regular user with "exit" once it is all done
[18:10] <softballs> TJ-: you are the man, that made the commands work :) thank you
[18:10] <TJ-> softballs: I'll make a note to amend that wiki page
[18:12] <softballs> TJ-:  it does say to change to root its just i didn't know how to do that (sudo -i)
[18:12] <softballs> TJ-: ill continue with the tutorial and let you know if i run into anything more
[18:13] <TJ-> softballs: That's what I mean... it helps to give _complete_ example commands
[18:13] <trism> ponyofdeath: if you run: sudo invoke-rc.d systemd-logind start; do you see: mount: mount point /sys/fs/cgroup does not exist;
[18:14] <ponyofdeath> invoke-rc.d: initscript systemd-logind, action "start" failed.
[18:14] <ponyofdeath> trism: no other output
[18:14] <ponyofdeath> just start job failed to start
[18:17] <solars> hey, can anyone recommend a realiable UMTS stick that just works pnp under linux? (no LTE needed)
[18:17] <solars> if possible with antenna adapter but not needed
[18:18] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Tethered Android phone is reliable.
[18:19] <solars> I have a separate sim
[18:19] <TJ-> solars: I have a Huawei E3131 that presents a CDC Ethernet interface, after usb_modeswitch. Can be mode-switched to present an AT serial port, also, that had SIM, micro-SD, and external antenna socket
[18:20] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Most Huawei and zte works fine.
[18:20] <solars> I forgot to mention that I will never buy a huawei device again :)
[18:20] <solars> it's the most unreliable thing I ever had
[18:21] <FuzzyWhirlpool> What's your problem with huawei? Newer huawei devices are great.
[18:21] <RedPenguin2> in ubuntu 12.04.1 is there anyway to have pulseaudio do thye audio entirely and alsa not control the soundcard?
[18:21] <solars> I've got the k5005 and currently it won't modeswitch anymore
[18:21] <solars> besides that I always had to try around 5 times for it to switch
[18:21] <RedPenguin2> rigyt now pulseaudio controls hdmi and aklsamixer does soundcard
[18:22] <solars> and I'm tired of it, really, I want something that I can just plug in and forget
[18:22] <solars> if I need internet I need it quickly
[18:23] <Shai_-> hey guys, I followed this tutorial to build my first package : http://codeghar.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/create-deb-package-in-ubuntu-very-brief-introduction/ dunno what its worth but my debian package is 5ko but when I compile it i have 1.5go of bins ...
[18:23] <Shai_-> any idea what is missing to this ?
[18:24] <coventry> Is there a key for full-disk encryption which can be used if you forget your passphrase, like there is for home-dir encryption?  If so, how do you retrieve that key, and how do you use it?
[18:24] <Shai_-> or what i don't understand :D
[18:26] <FuzzyWhirlpool> solars: I guess the most suitable for you is a tethered android phone. Most 3g dongle requires modeswitching to work on Ubuntu.
[18:26] <pa> make-kpkg kernel-image will also include the modules?
[18:26] <pa> i remember it used to need an additional target for modules
[18:27] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Key based disk encryption? I think it's possible with gpg keys.
[18:27] <TJ-> coventry: no, if you didn't back-up the LUKS header and didn't record the passphrase, there is no way to recover
[18:28] <coventry> TJ-: Good to know.  No such problem in this case, just wondering what precautions are available.
[18:29] <TJ-> coventry: *always* back-up the LUKS header to a separate (back-up) device, such as a USB key
[18:29] <Guest34692> How do I convert Youtube videos into a format with which I can make a Video DVD
[18:29] <TJ-> coventry: It also makes sense to add a key-file to the LUKS slots in case you ever do forget the passphrase
[18:31] <coventry> Thanks, TJ-.  Know of any good tutorials about this?
[18:31] <TJ-> coventry: https://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#6._Backup_and_Data_Recovery
[18:38] <Chaos_Zero> has anyone had success setting up an xrdp or NX server on an AWS instance?
[18:38] <coventry> TJ-:  Thanks.
[18:41] <errormacro> k
[18:41] <solars> FuzzyWhirlpool, most ZTE sticks I had don't require a mode switch
[18:41] <solars> FuzzyWhirlpool, and as I said I cannot use my phone
[18:43] <ponyofdeath> trism: figured it out on ur cgroups hint. i have a custom kernel and did not compile that in.
[18:45] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Any 3g dongle should work fine. ZTE MF190 is fine 7.2 mbps. If you don't need 7.2, then ZTE MF620/626 is also great, though it's just 3.6 mbps.
[18:46] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Remember, the old devices are tested more than newer devices.
[18:49] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> l
[18:51] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> wine SpotifySetup.exe
[18:51] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> then i get this
[18:51] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Please install Spotify using a normal account instead of an Administrator account
[18:52] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> in a gui form
[18:52] <Term1nal> Is there something special I need to do to enable the ability to password protect the archives made with the "Right Click -> Compress" function? Using Files (nautilus). There's a dropdown for "Other Options" that contains encryption/password protection features, but they're greyed out.
[18:52] <aldodelgado> Question? I have setup many ubuntu linux servers for use in a LAMP stack. However today I deployed my first ubuntu 14.04 LAMP stack. With that said I have successfully installed apache2 and php 5.5. However mysql does not allow remote connections. I've run nmap against the public IP and Private IP and I dont see port 3306 open. I have also disabled the firewall and still dont see port 3306. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
[18:53] <Kurion> Hi all, what's the hotkey for the Ubuntu panel?
[18:54] <coventry> Kurion: Do you mean the right windows key?
[18:54] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Just use ssh-port forwarding to access mysql.
[18:54] <aldodelgado> ?
[18:54] <aldodelgado> I need the port open to create a connection from another server
[18:54] <Kurion> Coventry, I don't think so. I'm not sure the exact name of the panel. It's the options on the top right of the Ubuntu desktop, where you can shut down the computer from.
[18:55] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :(
[18:55] <coventry> Kurion: Oh, I think "panel" is right.
[18:55] <aldodelgado> The connection will be coming from an application for a user
[18:55] <Kurion> I see. I may be in a bit of a fickle then, when I hit the right windows key it acts as a right click for some reason.
[18:55] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> WINE HELP
[18:56] <Pici> aldodelgado: As /etc/mysql/my.cnf says, the new default is to bind to 127.0.0.1 only.  You would need to change that to the address of your server (or 0.0.0.0) for it to listen on all interfaces.
[18:56] <Pici> !appdb | GuyThatNeedsHelp
[18:56] <OerHeks> aldodelgado, see these answers http://askubuntu.com/questions/272077/port-3306-appears-to-be-closed-on-my-ubuntu-server >>> Removing the line bind-address 127.0.0.1 from /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[18:56] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> wine SpotifySetup.exe
[18:56] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> then i get this
[18:56] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Please install Spotify using a normal account instead of an Administrator account
[18:56] <Pici> GuyThatNeedsHelp: Did you read what ubottu just said?
[18:57] <coventry> Kurion: No, the win key is not what you need, thought you meant something else.
[18:57] <Kurion> coventry, ah I see
[18:57] <Pici> GuyThatNeedsHelp: We can't really help with running applications under wine. Please either ask in #winehq, or check out the appdb for suggestions.
[18:57] <jeffw_> how do i change the default file manager through the command line? i would prefer to use something other than nautilus.
[18:58] <Kurion> coventry, found it. It was alt+f10
[18:59] <coventry> Kurion: Nice, where is that configured?
[18:59] <Kurion> coventry, I'm not sure to be honest
[18:59] <skilz> how to change the symbolic icon of an application ubuntu
[19:00] <OerHeks> jeffw_, "xdg-mime default <your filemanager>.desktop inode/directory application/x-gnome-saved-search " >>> https://sites.google.com/site/installationubuntu/tweaking-ubuntu/change-default-filemanager
[19:01] <histo> skilz: edit the .desktop file for that applicaiton
[19:01] <skilz> I have
[19:01] <skilz> But it is showing the old icon in unity bar
[19:01] <histo> skilz: have you reloaded unity?
[19:01] <FuzzyWhirlpool> aldodelgado: you need to set up ssh private key for the server to be able to connect and create port forwarding to access mysql port.
[19:02] <aldodelgado> FuzzyWhirlpool: never had to do that before on 12.04
[19:02] <Pici> aldodelgado: The default configuration has changed. Did you see the suggestion that I gave you above?
[19:02] <skilz> But the action app shows the new icon in /usr/share/applications
[19:02] <skilz> histo,
[19:03] <aldodelgado> Pici: Say aplied those changes and see didnt see the port open
[19:03] <histo> skilz: try seeing if you have a similar .desktop in your ~  find ~ -iname *.desktop
[19:03] <Pici> aldodelgado: Did you restart the mysql service?
[19:03] <aldodelgado> Pici: Not sure why? I looked at iptables and I have a rule to allow all
[19:03] <aldodelgado> yes
[19:04] <thekkid> What's the best way to start 10 background instances of the same job?
[19:04] <aldodelgado> http://pastebin.com/y4L65UEq
[19:04] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> how would i remove an application in terminal?
[19:04] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> sudo apt-remove
[19:04] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> ?
[19:04] <skilz> ~ find ~ -iname*.desktop? wtf is that?
[19:05] <coventry> GuyThatNeedsHelp: sudo apt-get remove <package name>
[19:05] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> thanks
[19:05] <skilz> histo,
[19:06] <Pici> skilz: it s a command to search for all files ending in .desktop in your user's home
[19:06] <skilz> Pici, So ~ -iname *.desktop is the actual command?
[19:07] <Pici> skilz: no. The command is: find ~ -iname *.desktop
[19:07] <mjuszczak> If I want to host a modified nginx package (one that contains the upload module) for my organization, can that be done in a ppa?  The package would be kind of useless for anyone that isn't in my organization.  Or is the private apt repo better?
[19:09] <Pici> mjuszczak: Thats up to you.  Either way works fine.  As long as you are fine with other people have access to it, theres no problem.
[19:09] <mjuszczak> Can a PPA on launchpad be created under an organization?  Would that organization need an ubuntu one login then?
[19:11] <rww> it can be created under a group of people
[19:12] <rww> or a project. either way, you'd just need SSO for the people involved, not the group/project itself
[19:17] <softballs> when i run "service openvpn start" it doesn't say OK, but when i do "service --status-all" openvpn has a + to it
[19:17] <softballs> should i assume its started?
[19:17] <catalase> service openvpn status
[19:18] <softballs> ah, yeah its running :)
[19:18] <softballs> thank you
[19:19] <jeffw_> thanks, OerHeks
[19:19] <funtable> funt123
[19:20] <adamcunnington> Hi, I can't mount my windows partition due to "exited with non-zero exit status 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount". However, this isn't the case - I've doulbe checked by booting back into it and shutting down and the error persists.
[19:20] <aldodelgado> Pici: Dude you’ll never guess what it was… Operator error, ID10T move. In trouble shooting I must have changed the port and never put it back. I can now connect and confirmed the issue was in the bind-address. When I changed it form 127.0.0.1 to 0.0.0.0 it worked like a charm! thanks
[19:20] <mjuszczak> rww: Thanks!  In this case, if we have multiple packages we want custom compiled and uploaded, we likely only really need to add one ppa right?  So creating a single ppa under our "team" name and then throwing the packages in there should work.
[19:21] <rww> mjuszczak: if people adding the PPA would expect to get the whole set of packages, then yes, just use one PPA
[19:21] <rww> if they'd expect to get some of them but not all of them, then use multiple as needed
[19:22] <jeffw_> is it possible to switch compositing managers for Cinnamon, Gnome, KDE, etc.?
[19:23] <mjuszczak> rww: great - thanks!
[19:25] <HelloWorld321> I've downloaded the rstudio-0.98.953-i386.deb to upgrade my rstudio:amd64 0.98.507, but when I use sudo dpkg -i rstudio-0.98.953-i386.deb to install it, I get the message that they are not "co-installable".
[19:26] <HelloWorld321> Should I use -r to remove the old .deb first?  Or is there a more appropriate way to upgrade from one .deb to another .deb
[19:26] <OerHeks> jeffw_, logout, change to cinnamon/whatever and login again
[19:26] <adamcunnington> Hi, I can't mount my windows partition due to "exited with non-zero exit status 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount". However, this isn't the case - I've double checked by booting back into it and shutting down and the error persists.
[19:26] <softballs> when i have openvpn up and running, and try to connect to it with a ms computer, i get nothing at all, where should i start to troubleshoot it?
[19:26] <OerHeks> HelloWorld321,  why not download the amd64 package?
[19:27] <jeffw_> OerHeks: i mean is it possible to change WM for each desktop?
[19:28] <spaceone> hi
[19:28] <spaceone> my screen resolution is maximum 640*480
[19:28] <adamcunnington> spaceone: congratulations!
[19:28] <spaceone> i want to fix that
[19:28] <adamcunnington> settings?
[19:28] <OerHeks> jeffw_, 1 pc, 2 screens, 2 WM's?
[19:29] <spaceone> adamcunnington: http://pastebin.com/um7PCHEF → Xorg.log
[19:29] <adamcunnington> spaceone: probably need to install some graphics drivers if you can't select a higher resolution from appearance
[19:29] <spaceone> adamcunnington: lol, yes. they are installed
[19:29] <spaceone> xserver-*-video-sis is installed
[19:29] <jeffw_> OerHeks? yea. for example, KDE allows me to use KWIN or OpenBOX, can't I do that in Gnome or Cinnamon?
[19:29] <spaceone> graficcard is Silicon Itegrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE
[19:31] <skilz> How do I make an icon for an app in unity panel?
[19:31] <skilz> Where do I put it?
[19:32] <Xyu> usr/share/themes maybe
[19:32] <OerHeks> jeffw_, i have no clue what you want
[19:33] <Xyu> Is it possible to change the white window background to the Ambience color?
[19:33] <jeffw_> OerHeks: i know that previous version of Gnome allowed me to use Metacity or Compiz, can't I do that with the new version instead of using Unity or Muffin/Mutter?
[19:35] <spaceone> adamcunnington: ...
[19:36] <pcdroid> To install linux from USB, should I make a bottable USb then?
[19:37] <skilz> What is the command to bring up the 'Applications' menu in Panel?
[19:37] <skilz> Like gnome2 panel
[19:38] <pa> do i also have to generate modules_image when i use make-kpkg?
[19:38] <pa> or is kernel-image enough?
[19:39] <eligrey> is the scale slider under Displays supposed to affect the desktop icons?
[19:39] <eligrey> because my icons are still really small after setting scale to 1.75x
[19:39] <eligrey> (i'm on a 239 ppi device)
[19:39] <spaceone> pcdroid: if you are on linux you can just write the iso file onto the USB sitck (dd if=/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/sdX
[19:39] <eligrey> everything else is scaled fine, just not the desktop icons
[19:41] <softballs> pa: you still there mate?
[19:43] <pa> lol yeah
[19:43] <softballs> pa i got the openvpn running now :) but struggle to be able to access it, do you have time to help?
[19:44] <eligrey> i'll change my question:
[19:44] <eligrey> is there any way to make the desktop icons bigger? (since the scale slider doesn't affect them)
[19:44] <eligrey> theyre too tiny at 239ppi
[19:45] <pa> great!
[19:45] <pa> depends... what problem do you have?
[19:46] <softballs> pa well like i said its running, and i have created my .ovpn client on my client machine but i get nothing, do i need to do any firewall/port stuff on the server too?
[19:46] <softballs> pa bridge eth0 and tun0 or something?
[19:47] <eligrey> screenshot of my issue: https://i.imgur.com/5Vzeua3.png
[19:47] <HelloWorld321> OerHeks: Thanks.  I realy should get the 64-bit version
[19:47] <pa> start checking if the server is listening
[19:47] <pa> for example, if you run on tcp on port 1234, for example
[19:47] <pa> try to telnet to your server on 1234
[19:48] <pa> and see if ovpn answers
[19:48] <softballs> pa im running udp 1194
[19:48] <pa> my advice is to change it to tcp
[19:48] <pa> at least for now
[19:48] <pa> easier to debug
[19:48] <pa> and to pass through firewalls
[19:48] <softballs> pa netstat -lnp shows: "udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:1194            0.0.0.0:*"
[19:48] <softballs> ok
[19:48] <pa> ok so maybe it works
[19:49] <softballs> yeah looks ok to me
[19:49] <pa> but you see
[19:49] <pa> with udp it's hard to test
[19:49] <pa> if the firewall blocks it
[19:49] <softballs> ok, ill change it to tcp, np
[19:51] <punkgeek> root@ubuntu:/var/www/html# chmod 777 /var/www/html/index.php
[19:51] <punkgeek> chmod: cannot access '/var/www/html/index.php': Too many levels of symbolic links
[19:51] <punkgeek> what should i do? :D
[19:52] <Guest79866> How to Give shell input via popen(); ?
[19:52] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i cannot set a system wide proxy :(
[19:53] <Guest79866> punkgeek: punk geek you r inside the directory
[19:53] <softballs> pa i can do "telnet localhost 1194" (running openvpn on tcp now)
[19:53] <Guest79866> punkgeek: just do this cd ../../../
[19:53] <LordXe-gnu> punkgeek: is index.php a sym link?
[19:54] <Guest79866> punkgeek: and sudo chmod 777 /var/www/html
[19:54] <punkgeek> yes soft link
[19:54] <LordXe-gnu> punkgeek: what does it point to?
[19:54] <punkgeek> ~/crypted
[19:55] <softballs> pa well it says "connected to localhost" but i can't type anything without getting "connection closed by foreign host"
[19:55] <skilz> What is the command to bring up the 'Applications' menu in Panel?
[19:55] <skilz> Like gnome2 panel
[19:55] <LordXe-gnu> punkgeek: it sounds like a problem with your symbolic link, probably you have created a cycle somewhere
[19:55] <punkgeek> so what should i do?
[19:55] <pa> thats ok
[19:55] <pa> it's normal
[19:55] <pa> it means it works
[19:56] <pa> next question is: does your ovpn client connects to the server?
[19:56] <pa> you can also debug it by running it with some debug switch
[19:56] <pa> -debug or something, don't remember exactly
[19:56] <pa> so you see if your certificates are ok and so forth
[19:57] <softballs> pa when i try to connect nothing happens (nothing in log window)
[19:57] <Term1nal> So, I'm attempting to attach a physical disk VMDK to virtualbox. I know before that i had to add a user "vbox" to the "disk" group, but that was in earlier versions of ubuntu. Now, it appears as though virtualbox is using my local user account only. Do I then need to have my account added to the "disk" group?
[19:58] <softballs> pa do you know how to add debug info to a windows openvpn client?
[19:59] <pa> hm.. no idea, sorry
[19:59] <punkgeek> no body help me? :D
[19:59] <pa> don't you have a linux box to test it with?
[19:59] <pa> or maybe just run a live ubuntu
[20:00] <softballs> only have the unbutu server and then a win client machine
[20:00] <friendlyfascism> punkgeek, You have had multiple people address you have some patience and a little eloquence.
[20:03] <softballs> pa: sorry lost connection a sec
[20:03] <pa> softballs, cant you run a live ubuntu on the win machine?
[20:03] <pa> or a virtualbox
[20:03] <Xyu> is the ambiance theme with white windows on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[20:03] <pcdroid> Excuse a perhaps extremely stupid question: If I have an evil virus on my Windows 8 computer and download an Ubuntu iso, create a USB installer and then install linux. Can a virus survive this and exist on my linux system now?
[20:04] <kostkon> pcdroid, no
[20:04] <Pici> pcdroid: Didn't we answer this earlier today?
[20:04] <pcdroid> Pici: sorry but U had left then.
[20:04] <pcdroid> Not my intention to spam
[20:04] <softballs> pa: sure i should be able to do that, would that be to be able to see more openvpn client logs?
[20:05] <pcdroid> Pici: U->I
[20:05] <Pici> pcdroid: ah.
[20:05] <pcdroid> kostkon: ok, ty
[20:05] <pa> sure
[20:05] <pa> then you run it from the command line
[20:05] <pa> in foreground
[20:05] <Xyu> depends on how evil the virus is
[20:05] <pa> with the debug switch
[20:06] <jellf> hi all
[20:06] <Thedwarf> hi
[20:08] <friendlyfascism> Xyu, That really helps.
[20:08] <adamcunnington> Hi, I can't mount my windows partition due to "exited with non-zero exit status 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount". However, this isn't the case - I've double checked by booting back into it and shutting down and the error persists.
[20:10] <softballs> pa found the problem, had a small typo in the client .ovpn :)
[20:10] <pa> i see :)
[20:10] <pa> so now it works?
[20:10] <pa> congrats
[20:10] <softballs> yup its connected atleast so things are looking good :) thanx for all the help
[20:10] <pa> np glad i could help a little
[20:11] <softballs> no only to see if i can use windows run to access its files also :)
[20:11] <softballs> should i setup samba for that?
[20:14] <Balzy> hello! I'm trying to install   wxmaxima (13.04.2-1build0.1) saucy-proposed; urgency=low instead of wxmaxima 13.04.2-2 that comes with trusty since it is bugged, would you help me?
[20:16] <posthuman> I created a shell script with   lvcreate -L1G -n -s $SNAPSHOT $SOURCE in it ... while executed manually it works fine but not via cron.  the command lvcreate just doesnt work ... can u help me here please
[20:17] <TJ-> posthuman: cron's shell environment may not contain those variables
[20:18] <posthuman> thank u  for your reply ... it doesnt work with the full path either
[20:18] <Xyu> can you install conky in live mode  --  sudo apt-install conky    E: Unable to locate package conky
[20:19] <TJ-> Balzy: Is there a bug report against the package? That's the way to solve the problem.
[20:19] <MegaFireFart> Hello all...I'm middle of installing Cinnanmon interface in Ubuntu 14.04. The main reason is because I believe Compiz is just causing havoc on my CPU and crashing it. Would I need compiz after I install Cinnanomon? Can I safely remove it?
[20:19] <kostkon> !find conky
[20:19] <TJ-> posthuman: Where are $SNAPSHOT and $SOURCE being inserted into the cron script environment?
[20:20] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> when i go to gnome control and network and try to apply a system wide proxy it doesnt work
[20:20] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> WHY?
[20:21] <posthuman> @ top .... like    SNAPSHOT=/dev/vg_virtmgr/linux
[20:22] <softballs> TJ-: i got the openvpn running :) tnx for the help before
[20:22] <adamcunnington> Hello :| can anyone help?
[20:22] <TJ-> softballs: Glad to hear it, it's a very useful tool :)
[20:22] <guntbert> adamcunnington: with what?
[20:22] <MegaFireFart> anyone ?
[20:22] <adamcunnington> guntbert: i asked 3 times but:
[20:22] <adamcunnington> Hi, I can't mount my windows partition due to "exited with non-zero exit status 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount". However, this isn't the case - I've double checked by booting back into it and shutting down and the error persists.
[20:23] <softballs> TJ-: yeah it is :) Do you know if i were to want to access a folder on the server from a win client using windows run "\\ip" would i need to install samba then?
[20:23] <TJ-> posthuman: Are you doing "/sbin/lvcreate ..." ?
[20:23] <Xyu> i remember i could install apps in livecd before but now E: Unable to locate package  :(
[20:23] <TJ-> softballs: That, or else use a Windows SCP client (such as WinSCP) to access the server using SSH through the VPN
[20:24] <posthuman> yes already gave that a try
[20:24] <posthuman> used lvcreate and /sbin/lvcreate
[20:24] <softballs> TJ-: I would want to be able to use notepad++ to search its directory, don't think i can do that unless i can use \\ip ?
[20:24] <TJ-> Xyu: "apt-cache policy <package-name>" will tell you if the package is available and if so, where from
[20:24] <guntbert> adamcunnington: sorry, I cannot help - but please be patient, don't ask "can nobody..." - its fine to repeat your question after about 10 minutes
[20:25] <adamcunnington> guntbert: yea i have - an hour
[20:25] <adamcunnington> an hour's worth :P but thanks, i will wait
[20:26] <TJ-> softballs: Samba will do it although you might have a fight with the netbios side discovering the server through the VPN... or you could use something like win-sshfs
[20:27] <TJ-> adamcunnington: have you seen http://askubuntu.com/questions/145902/unable-to-mount-windows-ntfs-filesystem-due-to-hibernation
[20:30] <adamcunnington> TJ-: I hadn't but seen some similar ones. I don't have fast startup enabled in windows and i've ensured that remove_hiberfile is added to my fstab line. For what it's worth, this was working fine 2 weeks ago - it's almost as if the "hiber file" is incorrectly cached or some equivelant that makes more sense.
[20:31] <TJ-> adamcunnington: that sounds like a reasonable assumption... have you investigated the NTFS file-system(s) in depth in case there are multiple hibernation files/partitions ?
[20:31] <adamcunnington> TJ-: wouldn't know where to start
[20:32] <softballs> TJ-: notepad++ actually had something in it in order to connect using ssh :)
[20:32] <adamcunnington> softballs: use sublimetext
[20:33] <adamcunnington> It's awesome and more flexible for this sorta stuff
[20:34] <softballs> adamcunnington: hmm ok, i am fairly used to all shortcodes in notepad++ though ;) but i can give it a go
[20:35] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> can anyone help me with connecting to a proxy?
[20:35] <adamcunnington> softballs: it's pretty immense, read up on sublime text package manager and you'll see why. It will have plugins for the shortcodes you want and more - if not, just add them yourself, simples :)
[20:35] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> it doesnt work in system settings
[20:35] <adamcunnington> brb rebooting
[20:38] <turdidae> I have an Ubuntu/Arch dualboot. Can I just reformat the Arch partition and run update-grub to go back to Ubuntu-only?
[20:40] <Bollebib1> what is the best way to get some kind of "restore point" type of functionality into ubuntu? (if any?)
[20:41] <Psil0Cybin> Bollebib1, in what sense? to save everything?
[20:41] <Psil0Cybin> Backups?
[20:41] <Bollebib1> so that I can roll back my system if I make a faulty update
[20:41] <adamcunnington> TJ-: thanks for your help. i manually removed the hiber file and it's all working now, cheers again
[20:41] <Psil0Cybin> Oh I think its harder with Linux, I Do not know...I think the only thing I was aware of, is perhaps backing up your home directory?
[20:41] <Psil0Cybin> but then again that will not help what you are suggesting.
[20:42] <Psil0Cybin> sorry I am also semi new to linux iwould love to hear more input about this topic from soneone who is more knowledgeable.
[20:42] <aliquando> Bollebib1, I remember of something
[20:42] <aliquando> about clonezilla
[20:42] <Psil0Cybin> clonezilla
[20:42] <Psil0Cybin> is used for applications tho when u first install a distro
[20:42] <Psil0Cybin> as time goes on i heard it is not a good idea to use clonezilla.
[20:42] <Psil0Cybin> i may be wrong
[20:42] <aliquando> or you can create an iso of the partition
[20:43] <turdidae> Bollebib1, rdiff-backup is one way http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/
[20:43] <Bollebib1> aliquando: oh?
[20:43] <Bollebib1> can you make your own custom installer in a sense?
[20:44] <Bollebib1> with installed packages and such?
[20:44] <aliquando> sorry i never try it and it seems another guy say that could not satisfy your requirement...
[20:45] <Bollebib1> aliquando: ah I thought that was seperate from clonezilla
[20:45] <Bollebib1> turdidae: looking at your solution now
[20:45] <ObrienDave> Parted Magic includes clonezilla
[20:46] <eligrey> is it just not possible to scale desktop icons?
[20:46] <awrbgh> تحذير
[20:46] <awrbgh> warning
[20:46] <awrbgh>  you may be  watched
[20:46] <awrbgh> do usa&israel use the internet(facebook,youtube,twitter, chat rooms ..ect)to spy??
[20:46] <awrbgh> do usa&israel use the internet 2 collect informations,,can we call that spying??
[20:48] <dBLOOD> hi ppl!
[20:48] <sels> hi
[20:48] <TJ-> Bollebib1: file-system *snapshots* are the closest thing to Windows system restore points, and especially easy to use if you've installed with LVM (Logical Volume Management)
[20:48] <dBLOOD> I would like to install ubuntu on an uefi system, could someone help me in that?
[20:48] <Bollebib1> turdidae: somehow it looks like it's too difficultfor me
[20:49] <Bollebib1> TJ-: snapshots,mmh
[20:49] <aliquando> Bollebib1, i just search about clonezilla it sounds good
[20:49] <quickezed> Is it possible to find out what happens when a particular package is installed?
[20:49] <quickezed> Specifically, this package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/calendarserver
[20:49] <Pici> quickezed: What do you mean by "find out what happens"?
[20:50] <quickezed> There are some python files in this package which contain OS X paths however when the package is installed on my system the paths inside these python files are linux paths.
[20:50] <dBLOOD> Is it possible to install ubi on a uefi system, onto an external hdd without messing up the internal hdd's mbr? If it is, I would like to know how...
[20:50] <ObrienDave> dBLOOD, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[20:51] <quickezed> Pici: Is there a script or something which says where to install the files inside the package (the .tar.gz) on the system?
[20:51] <quickezed> And then is there a post-install script which modifies certain files?
[20:51] <TJ-> Bollebib1: there is a good explanation of LVM snapshot use here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[20:52] <Pici> quickezed: Do you mean that you downloaded calendarserver_5.2+dfsg.orig.tar.gz and it isn't what you expected?
[20:53] <quickezed> Pici: In a way. Basically there's a file in this package listed in the file list as: "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/calendarserver/tools/bootstrapdatabase.py"
[20:53] <quickezed> In this file there is a variable which is set to an incorrect path.
[20:54] <Bollebib1> TJ-: interesting,thanks
[20:54] <Bollebib1> and thanks for the other options everyone,will be back if there's trouble (so hopefully not...)
[20:54] <quickezed> I want to submit a bug for this however, if you download the .tar.gz you'll see that the path inside this file is actually different than what it is once the package is installed on my system.
[20:55] <dBLOOD> thx ObrienDave, but I was wondering what happens when I want to install ubi on an external drive in efi mode, not on the internal one...
[20:55] <quickezed> The path in the .tar.gz is actually an OS X path (the same as here: http://trac.calendarserver.org/browser/CalendarServer/tags/release/CalendarServer-5.2/calendarserver/tools/bootstrapdatabase.py
[20:55] <quickezed> Line 28
[20:55] <ObrienDave> dBLOOD, sorry, wouldn't know
[20:55] <quickezed> So then I was wondering what happens when this package is installed on Ubuntu. These Apple paths are getting replaced with the correct linux paths.
[20:56] <dBLOOD> I was wondering what the installer would want to do with the stupid linux boot-manager
[20:56] <quickezed> I'd like to see where this is being done because this one variable in bootstrapdatabase.py isn't getting set correctly. It points at an invalid linux path.
[20:57] <dBLOOD> because if the installer puts the boot-manager onto the external hdd's mbr, than I'm screwed if I want to remove it later...
[20:57] <Pici> quickezed: You need to apply the calendarserver_5.2+dfsg-1.debian.tar.xz to the downloaded orig file.   The easiest way of doing all of this if you already running Ubuntu is to do: apt-get soruce calendarserver.
[20:58] <quickezed> Pici: Ah right, so the xz does this "magic"?
[20:59] <TJ-> quickezed: The orig.tar.gz is the upstream source. The Debian/Ubuntu package patches need applying on top of that
[20:59] <Pici> quickezed: its just a bunch of patches. Take a look  at  http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ for some information about how packaging works.
[20:59] <quickezed> Pici: great, thanks guys
[20:59] <quickezed> TJ-: Thanks for the clarification.
[21:00] <TJ-> quickezed: what is the 'bad' path that is being set?
[21:00] <quickezed> In the file "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/calendarserver/tools/bootstrapdatabase.py" there is a variable "SCHEMAFILE"
[21:01] <TJ-> quickezed: "/usr/share/pyshared/txdav/common/datastore/sql_schema/current.sql" ?
[21:01] <quickezed> When the package is installed it is set to "/usr/share/pyshared/txdav/common/datastore/sql_schema/current.sql"
[21:01] <quickezed> Yep
[21:01] <quickezed> It should be "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/txdav/common/datastore/sql_schema/current.sql
[21:01] <quickezed> I could create a symlink but it would be nice for it to just work.
[21:02] <quickezed> TJ-: I was hoping I could find the responsible patch and submit a pull request (or something to that effect)
[21:03] <TJ-> quickezed: Pulling the source code now
[21:04] <quickezed> TJ-: Cool. I can see the responsible patch. "debianize-bootstrapdatabase.py.patch"
[21:05] <quickezed> TJ-: So who can submit fixes to this code? I guess I should go read that packaging link :)
[21:05] <Jeannine21>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bitly.com/U5SqFI
[21:06] <bekks> !ops | Jeannine21
[21:06] <bekks> nvm :P
[21:07] <phunyguy> ><
[21:09] <TJ-> quickezed: OK, the change was introduced via bzr revision 21, which was merged from Debian 5.1+dfsg-1, so it looks like a difference between Debian and Ubuntu python installation locations
[21:10] <quickezed> TJ-: Ah ok
[21:11] <TJ-> quickezed: It looks like the Debianized patch needs to be Ubuntu-ized :)
[21:11] <quickezed> TJ-: Haha, I was just about to ask that, using that exact word :)
[21:12] <quickezed> TJ-: Can you point me in the direction of a document which explains how I can submit a fix to a patch, if that is possible?
[21:12] <ObrienDave> is that even a real word? ;P
[21:12] <quickezed> It is now :)
[21:14] <TJ-> quickezed: Can you explain why the path should change; reading the source and the associated python files, the location is correct
[21:15] <ObrienDave> ah, usage in IRC makes it an official word :))
[21:15] <quickezed> TJ-: I arrived at this conclusion because the path doesn't exist
[21:16] <quickezed> TJ-: If this path is correct then I'm not entirely sure what creates it and when it gets created.
[21:16] <TJ-> quickezed: Have you installed calendarserver ? apt-file list calendarserver shows many files in that path, from that package
[21:17] <TJ-> quickezed: You can think of that path as 'hard-coded' into the debian binary packages, which when installed (by apt-get or dpkg) will be present on the file-system
[21:18] <quickezed> TJ-: Yep I have calendarserver installed. This is how I came across this "problem"/
[21:18] <quickezed> TJ-: The path doesn't exist in this file list: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/calendarserver/filelist
[21:20] <quickezed> TJ-: I don't have "txdav" under /usr/share/pyshared/
[21:20] <Guest80002> hi everyone, on this computer I've got two audio exits, one for the headphones and onether one for the built-in speaker. the can be both controlled separately from alsamixer, but from the applet on the bar I can only control the headphones one. is it possible tu control also the built-in volume from a similar applet?
[21:21] <Guest80002> i'm using lubuntu 14.04
[21:21] <ObrienDave> Guest80002, one is probably microphone input. what color are they?
[21:22] <TJ-> quickezed: Ahhh, that's because the python-install back-end redirects it to "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/txdav/common/datastore/sql_schema/current.sql"
[21:22] <TJ-> quickezed: "dpkg-query -L calendarserver" is your friend
[21:22] <ObrienDave> Guest80002, red is usually microphone input
[21:22] <Guest80002> ObrienDave, no, it's not that. I've checked and they're two indipendent audio output channels
[21:22] <ObrienDave> k
[21:22] <TJ-> quickezed: This is an interesting one, due to the diversion from pyshared!
[21:23] <TJ-> quickezed: post a bug report, I'll attach myself to it. This needs some of the python packaging devs to look at it
[21:23] <quickezed> TJ-: Ok sure thing, thanks for your help with this.
[21:24] <quickezed> TJ-: So just to confirm, report one here? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calendarserver/+bugs
[21:25] <TJ-> quickezed: I think the proper solution is for that path not to be hard-coded, but to call a python function to get the root of the install path and concatenate the package-specific remainder
[21:25] <TJ-> quickezed: Yes :)
[21:25] <TJ-> quickezed: let me know the bug # and I'll attach to it
[21:25] <quickezed> TJ-: Ok cool, thanks. I'll let you know once I've filed the bug.
[21:26] <quickezed> TJ-: In the meantime I'll create a symlink on my server.
[21:30] <robairt> Shutter ScreenShot Tool, any good?
[21:31] <DanielSa> hi
[21:31] <DanielSa> exit
[21:31] <kostkon> robairt, the best
[21:31] <robairt> kostkon, all I needed to hear
[21:31] <kostkon> robairt, :)
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> robairt  especially if you like it
[21:33] <gcl5cp> ffmpeg version 0.8.12-4:0.8.12-0ubuntu0.12.04.1, Copyright (c) 2000-2014 the Libav developers
[21:34] <gcl5cp> *** THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED ***
[21:34] <priuon> hello. I want to have apps save files writeprotected by default. Changing the UMASK to 236 seems right to me. I don't know if this is safe though.
[21:34] <robairt> I was just staring to miss snipping tool as I cropped another screen shot in GIMP
[21:34] <gcl5cp> this is a lie, AVCON lacks some functionalities, and FFMPEG is still better
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> gcl5cp  did you have a question, too?
[21:35] <ikonia> glebihan__: it doesn't say "it's better" it says it's DEPRECATED
[21:35] <gcl5cp> why this lies appear in ubuntu repos?
[21:35] <ikonia> gcl5cp: because it's not  alie
[21:35] <ikonia> read what I just said
[21:36] <TJ-> quickezed: I have a proposed patch for you, when the bug-report is ready
[21:36] <quickezed> TJ-: Ok great, thanks!
[21:36] <ObrienDave> Google translate needs to be deprecated LOL
[21:36] <gcl5cp> AVCON have not all function that FFMPEG, i have to uninstall and compile FFMPEG
[21:36] <quickezed> TJ-: Just writing it up now.
[21:36] <TJ-> quickezed: It would be great if you could test it directly, first, since I don't use calendarserver
[21:37] <quickezed> TJ-: Certainly can :)
[21:37] <gcl5cp> nevermind
[21:41] <gcl5cp> ikonia you have to know that FFMPEG is more complete, they merge AVCON and have their functions that latter don't merge.
[21:42] <TJ-> quickezed: see the patch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7795530/
[21:42] <ikonia> gcl5cp: for the last time - no-one is comparing features
[21:43] <quickezed> Ok cool, I'll give that a shot as soon as I've created this bug and let you know if it works.
[21:44] <gcl5cp> ikonia i use features avcon lacks for any reason, i don't understand why said DEPRECATED if FFMPEG is alive yet
[21:45] <ikonia> gcl5cp: sorry, can't talk to you any more, you don't seem to grasp the fact that it's not comparing features, if you can't grasp this, there is no point talking to you
[21:45] <mjuszczak> I'm compiling a custom nginx package and following the instructions for bzr.  However, I want to enable modules (hence why I'm making my own package)... do I embed those in the zip file?  Is that acceptable?  Or is there a way to get the debian/ directory from the existing nginx package so I can just copy that?
[21:45] <ikonia> gcl5cp: carry on using ubuntu, but stop complaining
[21:46] <gcl5cp> ikonia: i'm bias, FFMPEG is my everyday tool. thank you
[21:46] <TJ-> gcl5cp: see bug #1263278
[21:47] <designbybeck> to upgrade a Ubuntu 12.04 server to 14.04 server via command line... do you just do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[21:47] <ikonia> no
[21:47] <ikonia> !upgrade | designbybeck
[21:48] <designbybeck> thank you ikonia
[21:48] <designbybeck> ikonia,  this seems to be just GUI
[21:48] <designbybeck> and not CLI
[21:49] <ikonia> there is instructions on the server wiki page
[21:49] <ikonia> designbybeck: keep in mind there is no upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 until 14.04.1 is released.
[21:49] <quickezed> TJ-: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calendarserver/+bug/1341801
[21:49] <gcl5cp> ikonia i hope some day replace ffmpeg to avcon, but still is not possible to me.
[21:50] <ikonia> gcl5cp: I'm not interested
[21:50] <designbybeck> ah, i see the instructions now ikonia  thank you
[21:51] <robairt> reporting back, Shutter is exactly what I was looking for
[21:52] <gas-sho> in unity hopefully.current my bars disappeared ._.
[21:52] <gas-sho> in ubuntu 14.04
[21:53] <TJ-> quickezed: updated
[21:53] <quickezed> TJ-: Cool, thanks. I'll try your patch now.
[21:54] <TJ-> quickezed: I've triaged the bug and if the patch works, we'll try to get an SRU for it
[21:54] <TJ-> quickezed: Looks like Debian might need a similar patch/bug report too, but that can wait :)
[21:55] <priuon> is it possible to move a subset of a filehierarchy without writing a script? The source is "$find /path/to/dir/ -type f -newermt date"
[21:57] <designbybeck> robairt, Shutter is a great program
[21:59] <robairt> designbybeck, the forum I found that told me to get it was saying it was a step up from snipping tool
[21:59] <robairt> designbybeck, which is what I would be using if I were on windows
[22:00] <robairt> Home time here, have a good one all
[22:00] <designbybeck> robairt, Yeah I use it almost daily
[22:00] <designbybeck> robairt, the editing tools are nice with it! Have fun with it
[22:00] <robairt> designbybeck, I plan to play around with it tomorrow. Always a good time with new software
[22:02] <Ricardo_Barreto> Hi, anybody uses Ubuntu Studio with dual monitor? I have a doubt, so I was wondering...
[22:03] <quickezed> TJ-: The result of os.path.join is simply "/txdav/common/datastore/sql_schema/current.sql"
[22:03] <quickezed> TJ-: I tried doing the following in a shell: os.path.join('/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages', '/txdav/common/datastore/sql_schema/current.sql')
[22:04] <quickezed> TJ-: And I just get '/txdav/common/datastore/sql_schema/current.sql'
[22:04] <quickezed> TJ-: site.getsitepackages()[0] does give me: '/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages'
[22:04] <quickezed> TJ-: Not sure what's up with join
[22:06] <quickezed> TJ-: Got it. The second string shouldn't start with a "/"
[22:07] <quickezed> I'll try the patch again with this update and then try and bootstrap the db
[22:09] <TJ-> quickezed: True, it should be os.path.separator I think,
[22:12] <TJ-> quickezed: I've attached a modified patch to the bug report
[22:12] <quickezed> TJ-: Thanks, I'll try it out
[22:17] <quickezed> TJ-: Ok the only problem now is that the file is located in the second site packages directory returned from site.getsitepackages()
[22:17] <quickezed> TJ-: On my machine, site.getsitepackages() returns: ['/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages']
[22:17] <quickezed> In the file list, the schema current.sql lives in the second dist-packages directory,
[22:17] <quickezed> /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/txdav/common/datastore/sql_schema/current.sql
[22:17] <TJ-> quickezed: I was afraid of that - there is no clean way to get the path, so mostly we 'assume' the first path will be the correct one
[22:18] <quickezed> TJ-: yeh :(
[22:18] <quickezed> TJ-: I guess the only option here is to test each path returned by sitepackages.
[22:18] <TJ-> quickezed: The best thing to do is open that code out into a loop that looks for the file in all possible sitepackages paths, I think
[22:18] <quickezed> TJ-: Yep
[22:19] <quickezed> TJ-: Well, I'm going to need a patch for my calendarserver installation so I'm more than happy to create this now.
[22:19] <quickezed> TJ-: Test it, and then attach it to the bug report.
[22:20] <TJ-> quickezed: OK ... I was writing a looped test but you're in a better position to write/test
[22:21] <quickezed> TJ-: Sure thing, if you want to write it and sent it to me via ubuntu paste that's all good.
[22:21] <quickezed> TJ-: I'm more than happy to test it out for you
[22:21] <Alpha-Omega> Hey, what is the most natural sounding text to speech program in Linux?
[22:23] <Iko> whats up everybody
[22:24] <bprompt> Iko:  clouds, stratosphere
[22:25] <TJ-> quickezed: how about this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7795657/
[22:25] <quickezed> TJ-: Looks good, I'll give it a shot.
[22:26] <nickismyname> I have successfully installed Ubuntu but it is very slow. I had some problems to install at first, it hanged in splash screen so I used nomodeset. What odes this mean? What can I do? Install some drivers? it is way to slow as it is,
[22:27] <nickismyname> odes->does
[22:27] <Chris_hubu> I'm off for tonight, good night
[22:27] <nickismyname> what do you think?
[22:28] <nickismyname> Pici: any ideas?
[22:28] <quickezed> TJ-: It worked :)
[22:28] <TJ-> quickezed: great, I'll add it to the bug report
[22:29] <quickezed> TJ-: Awesome. Thanks you very much for your help with this.
[22:30] <quickezed> TJ-: Until this bug is fixed I'll apply this patch as part of my calendarserver install script.
[22:31] <TJ-> quickezed: If you can add a note to the bug report confirming that final patch works, I'll add a bzr branch for the fix and send an SRU and merge request
[22:34] <Guest83680> a
[22:34] <quickezed> TJ-: Done
[22:34] <TJ-> quickezed: great :)
[22:34] <quickezed> TJ-: What's a bzr branch?
[22:35] <TJ-> quickezed: The Ubuntu packaging and patches are kept in a bazaar source-code repository, so I've been patching against the ubuntu/calendarserver branch. I can now publish the fix in my own branch and propose it is merged, and launchpad handles the code-review and merging into the package automatically
[22:35] <Alpha-Omega> What would you guys recommend, transmission or deluge? Does deluge have any features actually worthwile over transmission?
[22:36] <quickezed> TJ-: Ah ok, nice one.
[22:36] <quickezed> TJ-: When this is merged into the package automatically will doing an apt-get install calendarserver pull down this new version?
[22:37] <TJ-> quickezed: We have to get a Stable Release Update approved, which will then automatically create the fixed package that will be pushed into the archives via "trusty-proposed", and if confirmed as working, into "trusty-updates"
[22:37] <quickezed> TJ-: Ok cool, that's good to know
[22:38] <quickezed> TJ-: Thanks again for your help!
[22:38] <TJ-> quickezed: This is so simple that should be a quick-ish formality
[22:38] <quickezed> Great!
[22:38] <nickismyname> I have successfully installed Ubuntu but it is very slow. I had some problems to install at first, it hanged in splash screen so I used nomodeset. What odes this mean? What can I do? Install some drivers? it is way to slow as it is,
[22:39] <nickismyname> Where is the status of a download seen? I want to see if my file is fully downloaded
[22:42] <Guest92346> Alguem brazuca ai pode me ajuda?
[22:45] <k1l> !pt | Guest92346
[22:45] <Guest92346> ok ty
[22:46] <Wolf> hey all
[22:46] <Wolf> anyone to help with ubuntu 14.04 Acer heating problem
[22:47] <friendlyfascism> !lm-sensors | Guest95838
[22:47] <Wolfium> lm-sensors?
[22:47] <Wolfium> ok
[22:47] <friendlyfascism> Wolfium, If you see a link directed at you try looking at it first.
[22:48] <Wolfium> ok i installed lm-sensors
[22:48] <Wolfium> what next?
[22:49] <friendlyfascism> Wolfium, Did you even look at the link that was a bit to fast to have it done correctly.
[22:50] <ice9> where /etc/resolv.conf should point to?
[22:50] <Guest83680> a
[22:51] <Wolfium> yes i am stuck at sudo service module-init-tools restart
[22:51] <TJ-> ice9 it should be a sym-link to "/run/resolvconf/resolv.conf", and will usually have "nameserver 127.0.1.1"
[22:51] <ice9> TJ-: and how do I use a certain DNS server always?
[22:52] <Wolfium> when i run sudo service module-init-tools restart it gives me: module-init-tools: unrecognized service
[22:52] <nickismyname> Can you see me?
[22:53] <TJ-> ice9: By default, a private instance of dnsmasq is controlled by Network Manager, and when a DHCP server sends a namerserver IP, NM passes that to dnsmasq over dbus
[22:53] <ObrienDave> nickismyname, no, we can not "see" you. we can read you, however
[22:54] <ice9> TJ-: anyway to override this?
[22:54] <nickismyname> I have problems with the speed of Ubuntu. It is very laggy and sluggish. Fresh install.
[22:54] <TJ-> ice9: For NM-managed connections, it is possible to edit the Connection details, and manually set DNS servers in the IPv4 and IPv6 tabs
[22:54] <nickismyname> where do I start debugging this?
[22:55] <nickismyname> (new to linux7ubuntu)
[22:57] <zematis> Hi. I'm looking to use setfacl to add additional permissions to a file for a given user. But so far, I've only figured out how to overwrite the given permission.
[22:57] <zematis> E.g. given a file with r-x permissions for a user, I might want to add the w permission
[22:57] <josel_> list
[22:57] <josel_> hola a todos
[22:57] <zematis> but not remove the r-x permissions for that user
[23:00] <kmitchell> hey how do I make a bootable usb drive for ubuntu install?
[23:01] <nickismyname> kmitchell:
[23:01] <nickismyname> there is a guide on the homepage, use pendrivr
[23:01] <nickismyname> pendrive
[23:01] <friendlyfascism> kmitchell, There are a handful of apps that will load the iso to a usb for booting
[23:01] <kmitchell> nickismyname: i'malready on fedora linux. any linux solutions to load iso ?
[23:02] <furkan> does anybody know how i can debug log off taking way too long?
[23:02] <friendlyfascism> kmitchell, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB
[23:02] <furkan> shutdown and restart work, log off takes ages
[23:03] <furkan> sometimes it even seems to "time out", and i have to hit log off a second time
[23:03] <zematis> perhaps this is not the appropriate channel to ask?
[23:04] <friendlyfascism> kmitchell, Try to look at what is suggested rather than just continuing questions. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[23:04] <furkan> why not? i never had the issue before
[23:04] <furkan> seems like an ubuntu-related bug
[23:05] <friendlyfascism> furkan, So what is your critical thinking process that comes to a bug conclusion?
[23:05] <Vicky21>  You can find funny videos here. http://j.mp/1rcfoZz
[23:06] <Wolfium> bye vicky :P
[23:07] <furkan> friendlyfascism: suspend, restart, and shutdown all work, i don't see why log off shouldn't? i'm guessing it sends a different kind of shutdown signal to the processes. might be a bug in one of the processes that's refusing to terminate and stalling the log-off process
[23:07] <adamcunnington> Hi, really hoping you can help. 5 minutes ago both my monitors were completely fine, then suddenly on my main monitor where i was watching a youtube clip, it starts flickering and now the youtube screen is like very faintly frozen in the background. However, the screen looks fine in the bios menu. I rebooted ubuntu and turned the screen off in Screen Display options to try and fix it.
[23:07] <adamcunnington> Now, it is no longer appearing in the screen display options - how do i get it back?
[23:08] <furkan> friendlyfascism: i was basically hoping to figure out if there is a relevant log file i could check to investigate
[23:09] <Wolfium> guys i dont think lm-sensors worked for me because i searched for what is called a fancontrol in etc/init.d and there was no such service or script
[23:10] <TJ-> Wolfium: have you done "sudo apt-get install fancontrol" ?
[23:10] <Wolfium> it said that it comes out of the box!
[23:10] <Wolfium> ill try that
[23:13] <ice9> I need full featured desktop environment like Unity but light weight, any suggestions?
[23:15] <furkan> ice9: full featured and lightweight seems like a bit of a contradiction ;)
[23:16] <ice9> furkan: usually what slows performance is compiz and not features like searching or icon bars,etc.. so features are different than fancy gui
[23:16] <furkan> i've tried xfce, lxde, and cinnamon, just ended up going back to unity
[23:17] <knob> Hey guys... awesome with Ubuntu 14.04 so far!!    What can I do to eliminate the task/programbar at the left?    I installed Cairo dock, and happy with that.
[23:17] <Wolfium> ok so i did install fancontrol but what i got after pwmconfig is the following: /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[23:17] <furkan> ice9: you could try cinnamon maybe, it uses mutter instead of compiz
[23:18] <ice9> furkan:  it doesn't work correctly when I install it on ubuntu
[23:18] <furkan> but have your performance issues been happening with 14.04? because i'm having some CPU usage issues that i wasn't having before
[23:19] <TJ-> Wolfium: what fans are you expecting to control?
[23:19] <Wolfium> cpu
[23:19] <snorlax> can I ask support questions here or is there a nother channel for that?
[23:19] <Wolfium> dont know what to do with the hard disk heat up though any suggestions
[23:20] <furkan> ice9: i submitted this bug report that one other person confirmed, i wonder if your performance issues are caused by the same issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1337749
[23:20] <ice9> furkan: unity was always overhead on cpu but yeah in 14.04 it's more
[23:20] <freeroute> hi, is here anyone using the termite terminal emulator, and if so, how did you install it on ubuntu?
[23:20] <freeroute> because frankly I can't really find anything on google
[23:20]  * snorlax reads the topic.
[23:21] <furkan> basically dragging/resizing windows consume insane amounts of CPU for me, tested on two different systems
[23:21] <nickismyname> Where is the normal space to store your programs on linux?
[23:21] <TJ-> Wolfium: Are you sure the CPU fan has PWM control circuitry?
[23:22] <snorlax> Anyon having any troubles with the cups package from the trusty repo?
[23:22] <Wolfium> i dont think it does because pwm did not detect anything regarding fans as i mentioned earlier i have an intel core i5-2450M 2.5 GHz
[23:23] <furkan> and btw ice9 my CPU usage problems persisted across different desktop environments, which is why i think it's an Xorg issue
[23:23] <TJ-> Wolfium: It will be the motherboard that determines if there is PWM control support... many motherboards have automatic control (if the fans are 4-wire)
[23:25] <jarreed0> So I have an idea for the Ubuntu Touch OS. It is something I use everyday on my android. It is a tilt control setting were if my phone tilts enough to be placed in my pocket or if my android is set face down the screen will lock. If I would like this specifically and other tilt controlls, like turning auto-tilt on and off, to be implemented into the Ubuntu Touch OS how would I go about making a setting page on the status bar ca
[23:25] <jarreed0> lled "Tilt Controls" were I can implement these controls and other ones. Also by doing so will it have to be an app for some one to install or who would I contact to get it intergrated into the system so its built into everyones Ubuntu Touch phone. I posted this idea on the xda forums. I was told that it was an interesting idea and to try posting this here and on #ubuntu-devel
[23:26] <ice9> furkan: but my case is different, cpu doesn't reach 50%, I think it's your gfx driver, try reinstallting ubuntu and test with the free driver and the one from ATI
[23:27] <furkan> ice9: yeah i'm waiting for the utopic kernel backport so that i can try the more recent open source radeon driver (the current one in 14.04 doesn't fully support my card)
[23:27] <furkan> i could install a mainline kernel but didn't wanna do that for now
[23:28] <ice9> furkan: by the way why do you load things in xorg.conf?
[23:28] <Wolfium> funny i just checked and it said that my board fan is actually controlled by a pwm controller
[23:28] <Wolfium> something must have went wrong with me ill retry the process
[23:28] <furkan> ice9: i didn't at first, i added those things when iw as trying to see if i could fix the issue using some xorg.conf settings i found online
[23:29] <edition> Why does JACK only play after its stopped?
[23:29] <edition> sound from QSynth only works when JACK is stopped.
[23:29] <edition> with crackling/scratchy results
[23:30] <TJ-> Wolfium: The PWM controller may be automatic on the mobo though, it may not be 'exposed' to an operating system
[23:30] <jehyt> تحذير
[23:30] <jehyt> warning
[23:30] <jehyt>  you may be  watched
[23:30] <jehyt> do usa&israel use the internet(facebook,youtube,twitter, chat rooms ..ect)to spy??
[23:30] <jehyt> do usa&israel use the internet 2 collect informations,,can we call that spying??
[23:30] <jehyt> do they record&analyse everything we do on the internet,,can they harm you using these informations??
[23:30] <unopaste> jehyt you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[23:30] <Wolfium> HMMM I SEE
[23:30] <edition> jehyt: whats your problem?
[23:30] <Wolfium> well what can i do with the hard disk and board heat
[23:30] <edition> stop being paranoid.
[23:31] <Wolfium> conspiracy theorist !
[23:31] <ice9> how to correctly install cinnamon on 14.04?
[23:31]  * edition is still annoyed with JACK
[23:31] <friendlyfascism> ice9, A ppa, and ppa's are not supported here.
[23:32] <daftykins> edition: and you still won't get anywhere by saying so :)
[23:32] <TJ-> Wolfium: Is it a laptop or desktop system?
[23:32] <edition> it says JACK cannot lock the memory...
[23:32] <edition> is that the problem?
[23:32] <Wolfium> laptop
[23:32] <Wolfium> TJ-: LAptop
[23:36] <edition> i tried to search online... just got a code commit instead :/
[23:36] <TJ-> Wolfium: First thing I always do is clean out the heatpipe/radiator/fan blades with compressed air to remove the fluff and dust build-up. Second thing is to lift the heatsink assembly, remove existing thermal paste, and reapply a top-quality thermal paste. Those alone will often cool a combined CPU/GPU heatsink by greater than 10`C. If those aren't good enough I'll sometimes replace the heatsink assembly with a *new* one (the heat-pipes sometimes degrade over time
[23:36] <TJ-> ). You might also consider a laptop cooler  (I converted a Zalman NC-3500 by removing it from its case and fitting the fan and mesh flush into my workbench)
[23:37] <oldpilsbury> just installed apertium using http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Minimal_installation_from_SVN apertium works but no en-es dictionary. i compiled and installed everything with no errors
[23:38] <oldpilsbury> i can translate spanish to italian and others but not english to spanish. any ideas?
[23:38] <Wolfium> TJ-: KK Thank you. Guess I'll have to consider buying a top knotch cooler
[23:38] <TJ-> Wolfium: especially for laptops, the fans are auto-controlled by the mobo circuitry.
[23:42] <edition> alternatives to Jack?
[23:44] <Wolfium> Goodnight Guys and Thanks for everything
[23:44] <edition> is there any good frontends GUIs for ALSA?
[23:50] <edition> how can i use ALSA instead of jack?
[23:53] <ethanpailes> ignore #Ubuntu all -public
[23:53] <ethanpailes> sorry mischan
[23:53] <ObrienDave> you trying to ignore us? ;P
[23:54] <ethanpailes> no just the flood of join messages
[23:54] <Nickd55345353> hello
[23:54] <schultza> What dock programs are out there? I'm dropping Unity until they fix the annoying restrictions on the Window Menu Icon Locations.
[23:54] <ethanpailes> Kubuntu seems to pretty popular
[23:54] <Nickd55345353> can someone tell me how to download clam
[23:55] <ObrienDave> ethanpailes, which IRC client?
[23:55] <Nickd55345353> av
[23:55] <Nickd55345353> ty
[23:55] <daftykins> !info clamav
[23:55] <ethanpailes> epic4
[23:55] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install clamav
[23:55] <Nickd55345353> i am new
[23:55] <Nickd55345353> so i dont know much
[23:55] <Nickd55345353> dont laugh
[23:55] <schultza> ethanpailes: not asking about other DEs... Im asking about the dock programs. I want something similiar to what Unity has on the left (active program selection... icon instead of bar with name).
[23:56] <schultza> Nickd55345353: We are all new at one point in time.
[23:56] <schultza> Be back.
[23:56] <Nickd55345353> is it posible for linux to cath malware
[23:56] <Nickd55345353> ?
[23:56] <ObrienDave> ethanpailes, don't know that one. HexChat has built-in join/part ignore
[23:56] <daftykins> Nickd55345353: highly unlikely
[23:57] <schultza> Nickd55345353: Short answer, there are far fewer malware available for Linux than Windows, so unlickly.
[23:57] <schultza> sheesh.. unlikely
[23:57] <Nickd55345353> i dont download crap btw
[23:58] <daftykins> Nickd55345353: this is not a channel for general discussion by the way, it is for support only
[23:58] <schultza> Nickd55345353: It's a good idea to not download something unless you know it's from a trusted source. This is a good procedure to have regardless what Operating System you use.
[23:59] <schultza> not asking about other DEs... Im asking about the dock programs. I want something similiar to what Unity has on the left (active program selection... icon instead of bar with name). So what options do I have for dock bar programs?
[23:59] <daftykins> look into 'Docky'