[00:00] <xnox> Sweetsha1k: Bjo:rn?
[00:00] <xnox> =)))
[04:09] <pitti> Bonjour
[06:31] <mvo_> hey seb128, good morning - early again?
[06:31] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[06:31] <seb128> hey mvo_, wie gehts?
[06:32] <seb128> congrats on winning the worldcup ... told you btw ;-)
[06:32] <mvo_> seb128: good, played hockey last night and was in good form (after weeks of weak playing) for a change :)
[06:32] <mvo_> seb128: haha, you did
[06:33] <mvo_> seb128: I find it still hard to believe, given the injuries and players in weak form and the player who didn't even showed up because of injuries etc
[06:35] <seb128> mvo_, I think it was nice from you to send team B, 7-1 was enough for poor Brazil
[06:35] <seb128> what would have that been with the real team right? ;-)
[06:37] <mvo_> seb128: haha
[06:38] <mvo_> seb128: but yeah, I guess I was way too pesimitic :)
[06:38] <mvo_> pessimistic even
[08:03] <Laney> hey hey
[08:04] <larsu> morning Laney!
[08:04] <Laney> yo larsu
[08:05] <Laney> how goes?
[08:06] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:07] <larsu> Laney: good good thanks. A bit lonely since my girlfriend left for Sri Lanka yesterday. And yourself?
[08:10] <Laney> hey seb128
[08:10] <Laney> I'm good thanks, playing with my new phone ;-)
[08:10] <didrocks> morning Laney!
[08:10] <Laney> I tried to fix the broken glass on my old one
[08:11] <Laney> ...and ruined it
[08:11] <seb128> Laney, oh ? :-(
[08:11] <Laney> hey didrocks
[08:11] <seb128> Laney, which one did you get?
[08:11] <Laney> galaxy s5
[08:12] <pitti> bonjour didrocks et seb128, ça va ? allez-vous pris d'assaut la Bastille à nouveau ?
[08:12] <Laney> yeah I managed to cut the ribbon cable that connects the buttons
[08:12] <Laney> and then something went wrong with the replacement
[08:12] <pitti> hey Laney, moin larsu!
[08:12] <Laney> and then I broke the replacement glass anyway by pressing too hard
[08:13] <didrocks> bonjour pitti, ça va, et toi ? C'est vous qui avez pris d'assaut le monde apparemment :)
[08:13] <Laney> so I decided enough was enough :P
[08:13]  * pitti ^5s mvo, larsu, seb"defector"128, and the other German guys for the fourth star
[08:13] <larsu> hi pitti!
[08:13] <Laney> did you guys have a good long weekend?
[08:14] <didrocks> was nice, I would pass on the fireworks experience (mostly due to some s*** teenagers playing with fireworks in the crowd)
[08:14] <pitti> didrocks: the word "irresponsible" starts with an "i", not "s". Just saying.. :-)
[08:14] <didrocks> pitti: I was more in the "stupid" trend :)
[08:14] <didrocks> on*
[08:15] <pitti> didrocks: oh, of course :)
[08:15] <pitti> after all, that's the strongest s-word I can think of
[08:15] <didrocks> me as well :p
[08:18] <larsu> sane?
[08:18] <larsu> would also fit with the number of stars
[08:18] <larsu> *asterisks
[08:22] <seb128> pitti, salut, ça va ? On a célébré la victoire à la coupe du monde avec des feux d'artifice ;-)
[08:23] <pitti> seb128: en effect ! ici aussi, mais à dimanche soir
[08:24] <pitti> seb128: l'équipe arrive retour à Berlin aujourd'hui, il y aura plus de feux d'artifice là
[08:27] <seb128> pitti, btw, I told you guys in Malta that Germany would win
[08:28] <seb128> you can ask mvo, he was laughing at me by then!
[08:28] <pitti> seb128: and I'm glad that you were right! :-)
[08:28]  * pitti hugs seb128
[08:28] <seb128> :-)
[08:28]  * seb128 hugs pitti
[08:29]  * ogra_ hugs seb128 
[08:29]  * seb128 hugs the canonical german team ;-)
[08:30] <ogra_> :D
[08:56] <seb128> hum, those ofono/import/wizard and settings not working issues show that u-s-s could have better testing
[08:57] <ogra_> yep
[08:58] <seb128> I wonder why I'm the one saying that, Pat's team is owning that project now
[08:58] <ogra_> seb128, well, with the issues yesterday it is definitely known in QA now
[08:59] <ogra_> there was also a wizard section added to the landing test, AP should be looked at as well
[08:59] <seb128> u-s-s having incomplete testing was already known by qa ;-)
[08:59] <seb128> right
[08:59] <ogra_> the issues definitely raised the importance :)
[09:17] <didrocks> ok, adding to unity launcher is definitively buggy in trusty
[09:18] <didrocks> Trevinho: do you know any bug about adding launchers dynamically in trusty at the end of the line, making the shorcut appearing at the start, or not at all? ^
[11:22] <didrocks> ok, time for a run!
[11:30] <seb128> didrocks, enjoy!
[11:38] <Laney> seb128: can you subscribe desktop-bugs to uhttpmock please and thank you?
[11:39] <seb128> Laney, hum, why should desktop maintain that one?
[11:39] <Laney> bd of libgdata
[11:39] <seb128> well, I guess I could, those subscription rules don't make sense
[11:40] <seb128> it's not subscribing that team which is going to make us look more at the package
[11:40] <Laney> I guess they want to increase the chance even a bit
[11:41] <seb128> yeah, well, subscribed
[11:41] <Laney> ty
[11:41] <seb128> but I doubt we are actually going to "maintain" that source
[11:41] <Laney> i'll be sad if it doesn't stay in sync
[11:41] <seb128> seems like something for qa to do ;-)
[11:41] <seb128> right
[12:53] <ochosi> hey everyone
[12:53] <ochosi> i have a question wrt pkexec vs gksu/do
[12:54] <ochosi> i know ubuntu transitioned towards pkexec (and xubuntu followed your lead there), but i wanted to ask what the rationale was, or what edge pkexec has over gksudo
[12:55] <ochosi> (mostly wondering because we realized we don't ship enough policy-files and we're uncertain how much work it would/will be to create them and get them upstream)
[13:03] <seb128> ochosi, not sure what was the exact rational, could be that things are standardizing on polkit and it's better maintained/less hackish/having a better ui
[13:03] <seb128> mdeslaur or other security team people might be able to give more details
[13:05] <mdeslaur> ochosi: gksu was a bad hack, it would screen scrape su, so it would break horribly when a pam module asked for something else than a password
[13:05] <mdeslaur> ochosi: it needs to die a miserable death
[13:06] <mdeslaur> hrm, now that I've said that, I hope you're not gksu upstream or something :)
[13:07] <mdeslaur> ochosi: what policy files are you missing?
[13:20] <ochosi> mdeslaur: hehe, no, i'm not gksu upstream ;)
[13:20] <ochosi> basically all xfce apps are lacking policy files
[13:20] <ochosi> but we're planning to compile a list of apps that need policy-files
[13:21] <ochosi> if it turns out that there are "too many", we might ship gksu again until they're fixed
[13:21] <mdeslaur> the policy files are relatively trivial, and switching to pkexec is a good thing as I suspect nobody using any two factor pam module can currently use whatever required gksu right now
[13:21] <mdeslaur> but yeah, there's work involved
[13:24] <ochosi> mdeslaur: any advice for the transition? how did you handle that for ubuntu-desktop?
[13:27] <mdeslaur> ochosi: I looked at all packages that depended on gksu, and I created policykit files for them
[13:27] <mdeslaur> the policykit files are pretty trivial
[13:27] <mdeslaur> you can look at synaptic I believe for an example
[13:27] <ochosi> right, i looked at an example or two
[13:27] <ochosi> yup, that one too
[13:27] <ochosi> thing is stuff like terminals or file-managers don't depend on gksu
[13:27] <ochosi> but yeah, that's a good start
[13:28] <didrocks> fginther: hey! how are you?
[13:28] <fginther> didrocks, bon jour! I am doing well, and you?
[13:29] <didrocks> fginther: I'm fine, thanks :)
[13:29] <didrocks> fginther: I had a question about some CI services. If I have some tests that I need to run daily on various config (like amd64, i386 desktops), is there anything you can propose?
[13:30] <didrocks> those are depending on external resources that may vary, hence this "I want to test everyday"
[13:30] <didrocks> then ideally collect and consolidate all results in a single place
[13:35] <fginther> didrocks, In the past we have executed daily tests for specific projects via jenkins, so setting something up is possible. The bigger problem might be finding the resources to run them on. Can you tell me more about where these tests need to run? can we use VMs or lxc instead of hw?
[13:35] <didrocks> fginther: as long as I can have an ubuntu dekstop running, I don't really care about the kind of underlying machines
[13:35] <didrocks> desktop*
[13:36] <didrocks> fginther: basically, it's the developer experience tools
[13:36] <didrocks> so it's going to install some requirements
[13:36] <didrocks> and download the tools from the Internet
[13:36] <didrocks> and then, test that it can run
[13:36] <didrocks> finally, there is the code coverage file to collect back
[13:36] <didrocks> (so that, on one machine, I can gather everything)
[13:45] <fginther> didrocks, based on that, a VM should be suitable. Our current VMs are based on the server install, so we don't have anything at this moment that provides a desktop straight away, but that can be solved by just creating a desktop image based VM.
[13:45] <didrocks> fginther: sounds great! what's the next step for me then? ;)
[13:46] <fginther> didrocks, how are the tests structured? are the autopkgtests?
[13:47] <didrocks> fginther: they are python unittest, there is a runner. I can make then autopkgtests easily if there is a way to ensure we can distribute the tests
[13:49] <fginther> didrocks, ok, we don't have a generic method for running autopkgtests yet in the CI infrastructure, but it's good to know this is possible in the future
[13:49] <fginther> a runner should be fine as a first step
[13:50] <didrocks> fginther: ok, so meanwhile "just" using jenkins job, we hardcode the part to run on this and this vm and have the master job collecting and so on?
[13:50] <fginther> didrocks, so I think the first step is to create the desktop VM.
[13:50] <didrocks> anything I can help you with?
[13:51] <fginther> and yes, create the jenkins job to run and aggregate the results
[13:51] <fginther> didrocks, once the VM is in place, can I just hand things over to you to build the job?
[13:52] <didrocks> fginther: sounds a perfect deal :)
[13:52] <didrocks> fginther: can you, in the VM, have a password-less sudo user?
[13:52] <didrocks> I'll need to be able to run sudo in the VM during my tests
[13:52] <fginther> didrocks, yes
[13:52] <didrocks> fginther: excellent! the VM will be reset, right?
[13:53] <didrocks> VMs*
[13:53] <fginther> yes, it will be reset to an image snapshot between runs
[13:53] <didrocks> perfect :)
[13:53] <fginther> didrocks, what distro arch do you want to start with?
[13:54] <didrocks> fginther: 14.04, i386 and amd64 first
[13:54] <fginther> ok
[13:54] <didrocks>  fginther: if you have time to have a 14.10 which can refresh as well, but not that urgent…
[14:01] <fginther> didrocks, how about once we know the 14.04 VMs are working, we can add 14.10?
[14:01] <didrocks> fginther: sounds like a good plan
[14:25] <popey> es
[14:56] <seb128> kenvandine, hey
[14:57] <seb128> kenvandine, sooo, your qofono landing created issues for the wizard and the wifi panel it seems ... how do we make sure tests catch that next time? ;-)
[14:58] <kenvandine> seb128, yeah, the wizard branch landed in the middle of the qofono work
[14:58] <kenvandine> i think brendand is writing tests for the wizard
[14:58] <kenvandine> or at least getting it on the test plan
[14:59] <kenvandine> seb128, it caused an issue with the wifi panel?  i hadn't heard about that one
[14:59] <seb128> kenvandine, bug #1341580
[15:00] <kenvandine> seb128, we just hadn't realized the wizard was importing the Phone plugin, because it wasn't there when i greped the code :)
[15:00] <seb128> kenvandine, k, fair enough ... what about the other one? ;-)
[15:00] <seb128> I guess those landed during your holidays
[15:01] <kenvandine> no idea how we missed that import..
[15:01] <kenvandine> oh... landed after i proposed my branch :)
[15:01] <seb128> well, we are supposed to test the silo packages :p
[15:01] <kenvandine> why was it importing it?  apparently it wasn't used :)
[15:01] <seb128> but yeah, unfortunate sequence
[15:30] <seb128> ohohoh, it's meeting time!
[15:30] <didrocks> it is!
[15:30] <seb128> Sweetshark, Laney, tkamppeter, desrt, attente, larsu, didrocks, FJKong, hey
[15:31] <seb128> (no qengho?)
[15:31] <CardinalFang> Oh!
[15:31] <CardinalFang> Hey!
[15:31] <CardinalFang> Sorry, didn't hear the beep.
[15:32] <seb128> CardinalFang, hey ... who are you? ;-)
[15:32] <seb128> want to join the meeting?
[15:32] <seb128> lol
[15:32] <qengho> Bah!
[15:32] <seb128> qengho, hey
[15:32] <qengho> Old account from years ago.
[15:32] <qengho> Sorry.
[15:32] <seb128> ok, seems we can start then ;-)
[15:32] <seb128> no worry
[15:32] <seb128> qengho, your turn
[15:32] <seb128> (still no chromium update?)
[15:32]  * Sweetshark sneaks in ...
[15:32] <qengho> * chromium-browser update given to #security. Should arrive in repo any minute.
[15:33] <chiluk> seb128 where do you guys hold your meetings?
[15:33]  * Laney points to the floor
[15:33] <qengho> * mir support patched in, and I'm fixing a few problems with building it.
[15:33] <qengho> That's pretty much it.
[15:33] <qengho> EOF
[15:34] <seb128> k, looking forward to see chromium updated ... who is supposed to upload? chrisccoulson? should we promise him some beers? ;-)
[15:34] <seb128> chiluk, you mean the meeting which is happening right now here?
[15:34] <chrisccoulson> I'll do anything for beer
[15:34] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? ;-)
[15:34] <qengho> I already owe him beers. Let's keep his liver healthy.
[15:34] <chiluk> seb128, I guess I was expecting more action.... but ok fine.
[15:34] <Sweetshark> chrisccoulson: good to know.
[15:34] <seb128> qengho, thanks
[15:34] <seb128> Sweetshark, your turn!
[15:34] <chrisccoulson> *except anything to do with libreoffice
[15:34] <Sweetshark> - bumped prereleases ppa to 4.3.0~rc2
[15:34] <Sweetshark> - fixed bug 1333073 by disabling mergedlibs -- will look into reenabling, otherwise it'll be a startup performance regression (esp. on slowish ARM)
[15:34] <Sweetshark> - pushed some upstream unittests and refactoring deep in the writer core (so that we'll have something interesting to debug with the next release ;> )
[15:35] <Sweetshark> - various conference, travel and admin prep stuff
[15:35] <Sweetshark> EOF
[15:35] <Sweetshark> chrisccoulson: too late for limitations!
[15:36] <seb128> Sweetshark, do we plan to try to get 4.2.5 for lts .1?
[15:37] <seb128> Sweetshark, still there?
[15:37] <seb128> k, let's discuss that out of the meeting
[15:37] <seb128> Laney, hey ;-)
[15:38] <Laney> O HAI
[15:38] <Laney> • Spent too much time sorting out visa for upcoming trip to China. Think that should be ok now, just need to arrange travel.
[15:38] <Laney> • Update to evo/e-d-s 3.12.4
[15:38] <Laney> ∘ stuck behind libgdata, get uhttpmock promoted
[15:38] <Laney> ‣ this is a transition, so do rebuild uploads for that
[15:38] <Laney> ‣ stuck behind gnutls28
[15:38] <Laney> • New webkit point release, update, upload to U and SRU to T. Got arm64 patches upstreamed to Debian.
[15:38] <Laney> • u-s-s reviews, poking at new test failures - working on a MP to mock more backends (ofono, system-image)
[15:38] <Laney> • Start poking at new glib
[15:38] <Laney> ☣
[15:38] <seb128> the gnutls transition seems fun
[15:39] <Laney> yeah not working on that one, think others are on it
[15:39] <seb128> Colin hinted it's being handled fine though, so let's see
[15:39] <Laney> just did a little gdata one
[15:39] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[15:39] <Sweetshark> seb128: (had latency) checking the state of 4.2.5 on the tracker, will get back to you on it ...
[15:39] <seb128> Sweetshark, thanks
[15:39] <seb128> desrt, hey
[15:40] <seb128> ups
[15:40] <seb128> sorry
[15:40] <seb128> tkamppeter, hey
[15:40] <Laney> no desrt this week, no?
[15:40] <seb128> oh, right, he's at some esperento "holiday" right?
[15:40] <Laney> something like that :P
[15:40] <larsu> I think so
[15:40] <larsu> but I saw him around earlier and he responds to bugmail
[15:41] <tkamppeter> - system-config-printer: Work on driver download hanging when initiated out of the D-Bus service (used by other printer setup tools).
[15:41] <tkamppeter> - foomatic-db: Got new PostScript PPDs from Samsung and Lexmark, helped Lexmark developers to create database entry
[15:41] <tkamppeter> - OpenPrinting: Restarted OpenPrinting forums
[15:41] <tkamppeter> - Hardware: Tested Bluetooth touch mice with Ubuntu and ended up with a conventional (wheel) one (see Warthogs list).
[15:41] <tkamppeter> - Mentoring of GSoC students, midterm evaluations
[15:41] <tkamppeter> - Some organizational stuff for OpenPrinting Summit.
[15:41] <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
[15:41] <seb128> tkamppeter, thanks
[15:41] <seb128> ok, so no desrt
[15:41] <seb128> attente, hey, your turn then I guess!
[15:42] <attente> hey, not much from me, just debugging i-keyboard issues and helping larsu with o-s
[15:43] <seb128> I've u-g-m on my list of things to land
[15:43] <seb128> (just as a fyi since you pinged on friday, but it was w.e and national day here since)
[15:43] <attente> ah right, thanks!
[15:43] <seb128> yw!
[15:43] <seb128> what's the issue with indicator-keyboard?
[15:44] <attente> it was an issue with my accountsservice migration branch i'm working on
[15:44] <attente> wouldn't work on the greeter
[15:44] <seb128> oh ok, nothing in distro/to sru then
[15:44] <seb128> good
[15:44] <attente> yeah, no :)
[15:44] <seb128> attente, thanks
[15:44] <Laney> did you get visa sorted? ;-)
[15:44] <attente> i did, should pick it up in a couple of days :)
[15:45] <seb128> attente is not a newbie in chinese visas, I'm sure he's doing better than us at getting one :p
[15:45] <attente> lol
[15:45] <seb128> thanks attente
[15:45] <seb128> larsu, your turn ;-)
[15:46] <larsu> finally got the theme fixes in: header bars, notebooks, and toolbars-that-are-actually-headerbars should look correct now
[15:46] <Laney> slip some ¥¥¥
[15:46] <larsu> dropped css patch in nautilus while I was at it and moved it to the theme
[15:46] <larsu> also dropped the evince accelerator hack patches
[15:47] <larsu> lots of overlay-scrollbar discussion - thanks a lot to attente for coming up with a patch
[15:47] <larsu> some misc stuff as well: added a nameOwner property to unitymenumodel for Mirco (after some discussion)
[15:48] <larsu> fixed gtk separator test with Company's help
[15:48] <larsu> got rid of a libmessaging-menu warning that Chipaca pointed out to me
[15:48] <larsu> hm, I think that was about it
[15:48] <seb128> larsu, the theming changes landed to utopic ... btw shouldn't we have the headerbar having their decoration on the other side to match our theme? is that part of the css as well?
[15:49] <larsu> seb128: it is and we're setting it correctly, but it seems to be broken. I already looked into it but didn't find the issue yet
[15:49] <seb128> ok
[15:49] <seb128> I tested on my laptop which is a mix of trusty and utopic, so I was unsure if it was a local issue
[15:50] <larsu> no I see it on u as well
[15:50] <seb128> k, "good"
[15:50] <seb128> re. evince, what did you replace the hack with?
[15:50] <seb128> we are talking about upstream right?
[15:50] <larsu> new gtk api :)
[15:50] <larsu> which I already used in the previous patch (foresight!)
[15:50] <seb128> not the package/backported changes?
[15:50] <seb128> good ;-)
[15:50] <larsu> so dropping them was all that was necessary
[15:50] <larsu> and testing to make sure I didn't mess up :P
[15:50] <seb128> great
[15:51] <seb128> right, I think we needed those for trusty because our gtk didn't have that new api or something, right?
[15:51] <larsu> exactly
[15:51] <larsu> gtk_application_set_accelerators() to be precise
[15:51] <seb128> k, it makes sense
[15:52] <seb128> larsu, thanks
[15:53]  * didrocks is ready and waits for seb128's sign :)
[15:53] <seb128> didrocks, hey, your turn ;-)
[15:53] <didrocks> o/
[15:53] <didrocks> * Short week (4 days)
[15:53] <didrocks> * Fix default framework options to support something like: ./developer-tools-center android <install_path> (it will select the default framework automatically, like android-studio)
[15:53] <didrocks> * Switch coverage from using coverage to nose-cov to enable subprocess coverage report. Adapt some tests to it, switch the config option not supporting multiple times having the same option (but needed for terminal and html simultaneous report) and minor tweaks.
[15:53] <didrocks> * Merge the android studio install work into master
[15:53] <didrocks> * Refactor to have separate base class (enabling adding new framework support in less than 10 lines. 50 maximum for different workflow). This base framework isn't instiable and add tests for this.
[15:53] <didrocks> * Add also more tests for the decompressor facility and the UI class
[15:53] <didrocks> * Some bug fixes and code cleanup
[15:53] <didrocks> * Started to add integration tests (like from CLI, install android-studio, with various user inputs) and design it to ensure that any uncontrolled warning/error will throw a failure. Also, really launch the final product and ensure it's launched on the user machine, installed on the launcher, can be reinstalled, and so on… Still WIP to polish.
[15:53] <didrocks> * Workaround some Unity Launcher bugs (no answer from upstream if that's supported officially)
[15:53] <didrocks> * Chinese visa request fun (and going to the consulate)
[15:53] <didrocks> * Tracker MIR reviewed (but need some work before being acked for main)
[15:53] <didrocks> * some QA and CI team support
[15:53] <didrocks> EOF
[15:54] <seb128> didrocks, unity, I think to remember they had a dbus api for adding favorites as well?
[15:54] <seb128> (I wonder if that's not what s-c uses)
[15:54] <didrocks> seb128: hum, good hint
[15:54] <didrocks> I was thinking this was with progress and so on
[15:54] <seb128> still it should react fine to gsettings changes
[15:54] <didrocks> which we don't have
[15:54] <seb128> but until Trevinho replies...
[15:54] <didrocks> yeah, I tried multiple days
[15:55] <didrocks> but we'll see¿
[15:55] <didrocks> … even*
[15:55] <Trevinho> seb128: replies... to what? :)
[15:55] <didrocks> Trevinho: to multiple pings I asked you dude! ;)
[15:55] <seb128> Trevinho, <didrocks> ok, adding to unity launcher is definitively buggy in trusty
[15:55] <seb128>  Trevinho: do you know any bug about adding launchers dynamically in trusty at the end of the line, making the shorcut appearing at the start, or not at all? ^
[15:56] <didrocks> last one being the one he pointed ^
[15:56] <Trevinho> didrocks: I think i missed all and I've no notifications here -_-
[15:56] <Trevinho> didrocks: sorry about that
[15:56] <didrocks> no worry ;)
[15:56] <seb128> ok, thanks didrocks
[15:56] <seb128> FJKong, hey, around? wanting to share an update this week?
[15:56] <didrocks> Trevinho: let's chat after the meeting
[15:56] <seb128> (meeting is almost over)
[15:57] <Trevinho> didrocks: ok, ping me back then
[15:57] <seb128> seems no FJKong
[15:57] <seb128> so my turn
[15:57] <seb128> • 4 days week (national french day holiday on monday)
[15:57] <seb128> • spent what feels like a week dealing with visa/travel organisation
[15:57] <seb128> • small extra tweaks the battery charge graph in u-s-s
[15:57] <seb128> • some u-s-s reviews and landing
[15:57] <seb128> • round of install/testing on the current desktop-next iso, pinged around about some noticable issues (but yeah for a working webbrowser)
[15:57] <seb128> • some bug triage, sponsoring, review of e.u.c, sru, etc
[15:57] <seb128> that's it for the past week
[15:58] <seb128>  
[15:58] <seb128> is there any other topic for this week?
[15:58] <seb128> did I manage to forget somebody? ;-)
[16:00] <seb128> seems not
[16:00] <seb128> let's wrap then
[16:00] <seb128> thanks everyone!
[16:01] <Laney> thanks!
[16:01] <didrocks> thanks ;)
[16:02] <didrocks> Trevinho: so, meeting is over. I have to add through gsettings an app launcher icon
[16:02] <didrocks> Trevinho: for that, I try to put it at a precise index (before unity://running-apps), and it works fine
[16:02] <didrocks> however, if I add it last (on trusty), I have some weird behavior
[16:02] <FJKong> seb128: I am sorry late for meeting
[16:02] <Sweetshark> seb128: had a look at the state of 4.2.5. While it should be possible (whats the hard timelimit on sponsoring this?), I dont feel a hard need for this.
[16:03] <didrocks> either it's not present at all (desktop dconf dump / says)
[16:03] <didrocks> either it's at the first position (despite dconf dump / says it's last)
[16:04] <FJKong> seb128: last week, I finish some features for sogou input method and fix bugs on that
[16:04] <Trevinho> didrocks: weeeird, I've just tried here and it does what I expect from that....
[16:04] <Trevinho> didrocks: can you give me your list?
[16:05] <seb128> Sweetshark, ok, we should still SRU it, or do you want to wait for .6?
[16:05] <Trevinho> didrocks: and.... also restarting unity it does the same, right?
[16:05] <Sweetshark> seb128: after all we already did the security update to 4,2.4 and 4.2.6 will be out at the end of the month. OTOH, there are only two more upstream updates on 4.2 anyway: 4.2.6 at the end of the month and 4.2.7 in October ...
[16:05] <seb128> FJKong, no worry, thanks for the update
[16:06] <Trevinho> didrocks: oh, reproduced
[16:06] <FJKong> seb128: this week, I will mainly focus on fixing bugs if qa find any
[16:06] <seb128> FJKong, ok
[16:06] <Trevinho> didrocks: even with the expo icon seems to do that... mmh
[16:07] <didrocks> Trevinho: indeed
[16:07] <Trevinho> didrocks: after restarting it i'm not getting that anymore... I guess it's somewhat related to the icon priority
[16:08] <didrocks> Trevinho: right
[16:08] <Trevinho> that is not updated
[16:08] <didrocks> after restarting, everything is back (showing that dconf dump is really not lying)
[16:08] <Trevinho> didrocks: ok, found the way to reproduce it
[16:08] <didrocks> oh?
[16:09] <didrocks> I didn't find a good pattern
[16:09] <Sweetshark> seb128: I think we will miss Ubuntu 14.04.1 with LibreOffice 4.2.6, but 4.2.4 is reasonable IMHO. So I would stay with 4.2.4 for now and SRU to 4.2.6 and 4.2.7 later, but skip 4.2.5.
[16:09] <Trevinho> didrocks: what you need to do is to reorder the icons while the one you added is not there
[16:09] <didrocks> Trevinho: interesting, I wasn't reordering, but if that triggers the bug, it's good :)
[16:10] <seb128> Sweetshark, ok, your call
[16:12] <Trevinho> didrocks: does it happen if you use the dbus call instead?
[16:12] <didrocks> Trevinho: I didn't try it, as I want to put it at some special places sometimes
[16:19] <Trevinho> didrocks: ok, added that on my list
[16:19] <didrocks> Trevinho: thanks!
[16:57]  * didrocks waves good evening
[20:10] <spanko_at_large> Hey
[21:08] <attente> is there a way to "adopt" an orphan process?
[21:10] <attente> seems not...
[21:51] <robert_ancell> larsu, still around?
[21:57] <larsu> robert_ancell: yep
[21:57] <robert_ancell> larsu, still getting test failures on the GTK+ build - /display/unset-display and /display/bad-display
[21:58] <robert_ancell> Have you seen that before?
[21:58] <robert_ancell> I thought it was due to my Mir patches but this is a clean build from lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gtk+3.0/ubuntugtk3
[21:59] <larsu> no I haven't seen that - can you paste the full log please? I'll have a look in the morning
[21:59] <larsu> actually, the error suffices
[22:02] <robert_ancell> larsu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7800568/
[22:02] <robert_ancell> I'll have a look today too, will let you know if I find anything
[22:02] <larsu> huh, weird, haven't seen this yet
[22:03] <larsu> thanks
[22:03] <larsu> and good night :)
[22:04] <robert_ancell> night!