[15:59] <smoser> o/
[15:59] <smb> o/
[16:00] <coreycb> o/
[16:00] <kickinz1> o/
[16:00] <beisner> o/
[16:00] <gnuoy> o/
[16:01] <lutostag> o/
[16:01] <tych0> \o
[16:02] <caribou> o/
[16:02] <gaughen> here!
[16:02] <gaughen> \o
[16:03] <matsubara> o/
[16:05] <rharper> o/
[16:06] <smoser> hm..
[16:06] <smoser> who is up ?
[16:06] <rharper> zul
[16:06] <smoser> checking...
[16:06] <lutostag> zul
[16:06] <smoser> gaughen,
[16:06] <smoser> oh. no zul.
[16:06] <smoser> even better.
[16:06] <gaughen> damn it, if it's zul this week, then it's me next week
[16:06] <zul> yeah its me
[16:07] <zul> #startmeeting
[16:07] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 15 16:07:03 2014 UTC.  The chair is zul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:07] <rharper> pfft
[16:07] <rharper> not fair meetingology worked for zul
[16:07] <zul> so welcome to the server team meeting lemme just pull up the agenda
[16:07] <zul> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:08] <zul> is there any previous agenda items?
[16:08] <rharper> zul: should be none
[16:08] <zul> awesome
[16:08] <zul> moseying along
[16:08] <zul> #topic U Development
[16:08] <zul> smoser/gaughen: do you want to take this topic?
[16:08] <smoser> sure. why not.
[16:09] <smoser> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule
[16:09] <smoser> that means that we are about 2 weeks and a couple days from alpha-2.
[16:09] <smoser> and feature freeze about 1 month and 7 days away.
[16:10] <smoser> please do keep your blueprints up to date, and be particularly aware of feature freeze.
[16:10] <smoser> best to not run up to it with loads of work to shove in.
[16:10] <smoser> thats really it. please do use the Utopic Unicorn.  My 3.16 kernel is ever so nice.
[16:10] <zul> but thats the fun part
[16:10] <smoser>  /endsection
[16:11] <zul> cool any questions for mr moser?
[16:11] <zul> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)
[16:11] <zul> hi caribou around?
[16:11] <caribou> zul: yep, nothing on my side
[16:11] <zul> any questions for caribou?
[16:12] <zul> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (psivaa)
[16:12] <zul> psivaa is not here i take it
[16:12] <zul> beisner:  do you have anything?
[16:13] <zul> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee)
[16:13] <zul> smb around?
[16:13] <smb> Yes, but nothing from my side this week.
[16:13] <smb> Apart from sqaying I ahave nothing to say
[16:13] <smb> and not being able to type
[16:14] <zul> awesome...anything for smb?
[16:14] <zul> ok then
[16:15] <zul> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:15] <zul> so there is linuxcon next month in chicago, and there is the mid-cycle nova meetup in portland at the end of the month
[16:16] <zul> anything else?
[16:16] <zul> #topic Open Discussion
[16:16] <gaughen> nothing else
[16:16] <beisner> zul - nothing to add atm.
[16:16] <zul> im trying to beat my record right now for running this meeting
[16:17] <gaughen> zul, I still think I've done it faster
[16:17] <beisner> i think matsubara has the record.
[16:17] <gaughen> true
[16:17] <gaughen> did matsubara do it in 7 minutes 1 second?
[16:17] <zul> anything to raise?
[16:17]  * gaughen can't quite remember.
[16:17] <matsubara> 14 minutes which is a multiple of 7
[16:17] <zul> im just trying to be nice :P
[16:18] <matsubara> go germany
[16:18] <gaughen> ha!
[16:18] <gaughen> and with that hallyn leaves
[16:18] <zul> thanks for coming
[16:18] <zul> #endmeeting
[16:18] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul 15 16:18:23 2014 UTC.
[16:18] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-07-15-16.07.moin.txt
[16:18] <zul> gaughen:  that was cue
[16:18] <gaughen> so is "go germany" code for end meeting?
[16:19] <caribou> thanks zul
[16:19] <gnuoy> ta zul
[16:19] <coreycb> thanks zul
[16:19] <kickinz1> thansk zul
[16:19] <smb> gaughen, Must be some code so secret nobody knows about it
[16:20] <gaughen> smb, ooooh, I like it!
[16:20] <smb> :) Being there, seeing it
[16:21] <matsubara> thanks zul
[20:00] <skellat> #startmeeting July 2014 Regular Meeting -- LoCo Council
[20:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 15 20:00:07 2014 UTC.  The chair is skellat. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[20:00] <skellat> Welcome to the July 2014 regular meeting of LoCo Council.  My name is Stephen Michael Kellat and I will be chairing this meeting.
[20:00] <skellat> Before we proceed I ask that members of the Council indicate their attendance.  Members should indicate their presence during the next topic by putting forward "#info" items.
[20:00] <mhall119> o/
[20:01] <skellat> #topic Taking Attendance
[20:01] <skellat> #info Stephen Michael Kellat present
[20:01] <skellat> #info Bhavani Shankar could not be present for this meeting but has cast votes in the case management bugs for both the Florida and Germany cases which will be announced later
[20:01] <costales> Hi skellat! Thanks
[20:01] <skellat> #info Marco Costales present
[20:01] <costales> |o/ :)
[20:02] <skellat> We need four members present for there to be a quorum to proceed.  I had a separate notice that jose will be joining us shortly and PabloRubianes may be able to attend as well.
[20:03] <PabloRubianes> here o/
[20:03] <skellat> #info Pablo Rubianes present
[20:04] <skellat> Since we already have Bhavani's votes, we can proceed with three in hopes that Jose will be joining us shortly.
[20:04] <skellat> #voters PabloRubianes costales skellat
[20:04] <meetingology> Current voters: PabloRubianes costales skellat
[20:04] <skellat> #topic Special Situations -- Tabling A Resolution
[20:05] <skellat> The following resolution is laid on table for further consideration:
[20:05] <skellat> 1.  That the actions taken in the IRC meeting with respect to the Catalan team on June 17th earlier this year be vacated.
[20:05] <skellat> 2.  That the prior "country rule" be dropped effective immediately.
[20:05] <skellat> 3.  That the following rule about territory be adopted instead: "Local communities reflect the active life of participants in the development and use of Ubuntu as well as its many flavors.  An active community life shows that that community continues to exist and thrive.  While it is preferred to not have teams overlap in terms of geography, part of an active community life requires working together to resolve such.  The LoCo Council shall p
[20:05] <skellat> 4.  That the Catalan team be verified for two years effective from July 15, 2014.
[20:05] <skellat> 5.  That the LoCo Council review the Quebec team independently, write to them of its findings as to whether or not it meets verification guidelines while also suggesting corrective actions as well as ways to grow membership, ask the team if it wishes to stand as part of ~locoteams-verified, and if the team indicates that they wish to do so they be verified without further vote.
[20:05] <skellat> 6.  That the LoCo Council recommend as part of any renewal/reconstruction/revision of the LoCo Portal that specific attention be given to teams nested within other teams so that they are accurately reflected as part of all our communities across the planet.
[20:05] <jose> hello everyone, sorry for being late
[20:05] <mhall119> hey jose
[20:05] <skellat> #info Jose Rey present
[20:06] <costales> Hi jose! :)
[20:06] <skellat> The resolution shall lay on the table until later in this meeting for further disposition.
[20:06] <skellat> #topic Open Cases For Disposition
[20:06] <skellat> #subtopic Florida
[20:06] <skellat> And who is present to speak for Florida?
[20:07] <mhall119> I am
[20:07] <jose> just one thing - can we take it a little bit more like a... regular meeting? I feel it's too procedural
[20:07] <MichelleQ> I'm here as well
[20:07] <skellat> jose: For the moment we'll stick to procedural niceties and gradually loosen up
[20:07] <PabloRubianes> welcome Florida team
[20:08] <costales> Hi mhall119 & MichelleQ :)
[20:08] <skellat> Welcome to the representatives from Florida.  Please tell us a bit about your community, your application, and then be ready for questions members of the Council may put forward.
[20:09] <mhall119> so years ago we were a very active and approved team, but life got in the way for many of the driving members and we became dormant for a while
[20:09] <mhall119> in December we had a reboot meeting to revive the team, we've since elected a council to lead it, had regular IRC meetings and a number of meetups
[20:10] <mhall119> with >6 months of renewed activity, we decided it was time to seek verified status again
[20:10] <mhall119> we've documented our application in the wiki as requested: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FloridaTeam/VerificationApplication2014
[20:11] <skellat> Okay
[20:11] <skellat> Are there questions from Council members for mhall119 & MichelleQ?
[20:11] <mhall119> I would also add that we will be organizing UbuCon at FOSSETCON this september as well
[20:12] <skellat> Could you please tell us a little more about FOSSETCON and the LoCo's participation in that event?
[20:12] <PabloRubianes> having a reboot could be hard, how is that doing?
[20:12] <mhall119> FOSSETCON is a new pan-FOSS community conference, it's being organized by some of hte people who ran Florida Linux Show years ago
[20:12] <MichelleQ> At the moment I'm working with Bryan on PR and social media outreach for Fossetcon, and we're working as a team to host Ubucon.
[20:13] <mhall119> the organizer (Bryan) has asked our loco team to run UbuCon sessions during the first day of the event, and to help with other aspects of organizing and promoting
[20:13] <MichelleQ> PabloRubianes, we're doing reasonably well, I think.  We've had several meet-ups and get togethers with reasonable success.
[20:13] <mhall119> PabloRubianes: thankfully our reboot wasn't caused by anything contentious, just people not having the time they used to, and we lost several key people to other states
[20:14] <PabloRubianes> mhall119: many other locos are having time issues
[20:14] <skellat> We've been seeing that happen across the USA
[20:14] <mhall119> PabloRubianes: I know, something I'd like to talk to the LC about separate from this :)
[20:14] <PabloRubianes> is nice that the team could move forward
[20:14] <jose> I see that you have been using the LTP for events and even for blog posts, would you have any recommendations for improving the LTP? (having in mind that Michael is an LTP dev)
[20:15] <costales> I really like your work in these last months :) Good start!
[20:15] <mhall119> jose: aside from bribing daker, we generally need to recruit more web-devs around those projects
[20:15] <jose> hehe, daker's been doing an awesome work
[20:15] <skellat> Any ballpark figure as to the number of Ubuntu Member persons in Florida?
[20:16] <mhall119> he has, across a number of projects
[20:16] <PabloRubianes> mhall119: I was looking to join the LTP devs
[20:16] <mhall119> skellat: hmmm, at least half a dozen I would assume
[20:16] <mhall119> some people left the state but still consider themselves part of the team, like crashsystems and dan trevino
[20:16] <MichelleQ> At least a half dozen, possibly closer to a dozen
[20:16] <skellat> Any aspiring candidates for Member status in the future?
[20:17] <mhall119> govatent if he's not already, should definitely apply
[20:17] <mhall119> we're getting more people from south florida involved lately that I think could soon be candidates for membership
[20:17] <skellat> Mentoring and encouraging folks within the LoCo to seek Member status is something we always encourage
[20:18]  * balloons saunters in
[20:18] <itnet7> Sorry I'm running behind time wise, hello everyone!
[20:18] <mhall119> skellat: agreed, we can start being more pro-active in that
[20:18] <mhall119> welcome balloons and itnet7
[20:18] <skellat> Ubuntu Member persons are often the kernels of activity throughout our communities
[20:18] <jose> hey itnet7, long time no see :)
[20:18] <costales> Hi itnet7 :)
[20:19] <MichelleQ> Hi balloons , itnet7
[20:19] <itnet7> :-) hey there jose costales
[20:19] <balloons> hi everyone
[20:19] <costales> hi balloons ! :)
[20:19] <mhall119> skellat: I think we have more Ubuntu Members in the state that haven't been active on the team, so maybe our first focus should be to contact them
[20:19] <itnet7> +1 mhall119
[20:20] <skellat> mhall119: Sounds like a good plan
[20:20] <itnet7> We can also encourage some of the active members that haven't applied for membership to do so... (sorry if this is repeated
[20:20] <skellat> Now, MichelleQ & mhall119...is there anything specific LoCo Council can assist the Florida community with at this time?
[20:21] <MichelleQ> nothing that I can think of off the top of my head at the moment... we're excited to breathe some life back into the team
[20:21] <mhall119> skellat: nothing other than more global promotion of loco teams
[20:21] <skellat> Okay
[20:22] <skellat> Is there any further discussion of this application at this time or are we ready to go to a vote?
[20:22] <jose> it's go time
[20:22] <itnet7> I do have a google doc that outlines some of the activity that I didn't
[20:22]  * mhall119 has nothing further
[20:22] <itnet7> get a chance to put on the wiki
[20:22] <jose> oh, it'd be handy to have those :)
[20:22] <skellat> #voters jose costales PabloRubianes skellat
[20:22] <meetingology> Current voters: PabloRubianes costales jose skellat
[20:22] <mhall119> itnet7: post the link
[20:23] <itnet7> Ubuntu Events at Planet Linux Caffe - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YnWNwqWRNcaVgMh7zT8uu8hljjdNItD1HTrw7JEnI2g/edit?usp=sharing
[20:23] <skellat> Are we ready for the question to vote on?
[20:23] <PabloRubianes> yes
[20:24] <skellat> #vote That the Florida LoCo be verified for two years from today's date
[20:24] <meetingology> Please vote on: That the Florida LoCo be verified for two years from today's date
[20:24] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:24] <skellat> +1
[20:24] <mhall119> skellat: can we take a moment so everybody can look at itnet7's doc?
[20:24] <meetingology> +1 received from skellat
[20:24] <PabloRubianes> +1 keep the nice work up
[20:24] <meetingology> +1 keep the nice work up received from PabloRubianes
[20:24] <costales> +1 from my side!
[20:24] <meetingology> +1 from my side! received from costales
[20:24] <jose> I'm checking at the doc now
[20:25] <jose> looks like the team has been keeping up with events! awesome!
[20:25] <jose> +1
[20:25] <meetingology> +1 received from jose
[20:25] <skellat> #endvote
[20:25] <meetingology> Voting ended on: That the Florida LoCo be verified for two years from today's date
[20:25] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:25] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:25] <skellat> #info If councilor Shankar had been present for this meeting, his vote would have been +1 relative to Florida
[20:25] <costales> Thanks a lot team, you did a really hard work with the reboot and I wish the best for you!
[20:25] <mhall119> \o/ thank you everyone!
[20:25] <skellat> Thank you representatives from Florida
[20:25] <itnet7> Thank you!!!
[20:25] <MichelleQ> Thanks everyone!
[20:25] <PabloRubianes> congrats Florida Team
[20:26] <balloons> woot
[20:26] <costales> Cheers!
[20:26]  * jose gives balloons to everyone
[20:26] <mhall119> no, we need him here
[20:26]  * skellat wonders if that is a human trafficking charge for jose :-D
[20:26] <balloons> lol..
[20:27] <balloons> I prefer that to being popped
[20:27] <jose> no balloons then :(
[20:27] <mhall119> we prefer cookies in the Florida team :)
[20:27] <itnet7> :-)
[20:27] <itnet7> You'd make govatent proud mhall119 ! :-)
[20:27] <mhall119> I know :)
[20:28] <skellat> Again, thank you to the Florida team.  I'm going to ping toddy at this moment as Germany is next on the agenda today and I want to make sure Torsten is ready to proceed.
[20:28]  * mhall119 wonders if Germany has recovered from post-cup celebrations yet
[20:28] <toddy> Hi from Germany (from near Hamburg). I wish all a nice evening.
[20:28] <toddy> hi skellat
[20:28] <skellat> toddy: Are you ready to proceed with the German LoCo application?
[20:29] <jose> hey toddy!
[20:29] <toddy> hi jose :)
[20:29] <PabloRubianes> hello toddy
[20:29] <toddy> yes, skellat
[20:29] <toddy> hello PabloRubianes
[20:29] <skellat> #subtopic Germany
[20:29] <costales> Hi toddy
[20:29] <toddy> Hi costales
[20:30] <skellat> Welcome to Torsten Franz from the German LoCo.  If you could please take a few moments to speak to your community's application, tell us a bit about what is happening in your community, and then prepare for questions from Council members.
[20:30] <toddy> Our application: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GermanTeam/VerificationApplication2014
[20:30] <toddy> Our LoCo works fine and the most time.
[20:30] <toddy> We have many projects. The biggest is the portal ubuntuusers.de.
[20:31] <toddy> There we have an own forum and a wiki which is a documentation of Ubuntu and his programs.
[20:31] <toddy> Many users from other distributions use this wiki, too.
[20:31] <toddy> Another project is the booth team.
[20:31] <toddy> We were on many linux events with a booth and get in talk to other which using Ubuntu.
[20:31] <toddy> In October we will make a Ubucon with round about 200 visitors.
[20:32] <toddy> The first time in a village and not a city.
[20:32] <jose> I heard this one had Ubuntu for Cats?
[20:32] <jose> s/had/will have/
[20:32] <toddy> Yes, jose
[20:33] <toddy> we work with a mobil tablet manufactur
[20:33] <toddy> together
[20:33] <costales> You're working a lot with others LUGs :) great!
[20:33] <toddy> We want present Ubuntu for Touch on this tablets
[20:34] <toddy> yes, that is correct, costales – the most with the Switzerland
[20:34] <toddy> And with other LUGs with arch users
[20:35] <toddy> A lot of formaly ubuntu users are now arch users
[20:35] <costales> Nice :)
[20:36] <toddy> and we work together.
[20:36] <skellat> A switch from Ubuntu mainline to Arch in lieu of one of the flavors?  Any particular reason for that sort of change?
[20:36] <toddy> That are most the very technicals. Ubuntu is too boring for them.
[20:36] <toddy> It is too stabil.
[20:37] <jose> well, I would find that being stable is something good
[20:37] <jose> they're personal opinions though :)
[20:37] <skellat> Those are folks who might do great pushing things like Xfce or even Phone forward
[20:37] <toddy> But they say to there friends, which are more maintream: take ubuntu not arch :)
[20:38] <skellat> Cool
[20:38] <toddy> I like stabil
[20:38] <toddy> We have supporters in our forum which support ubuntu but use the most time arch
[20:38] <skellat> Do you have a rough estimate as to the number of Ubuntu Member persons in Germany at this point?
[20:39] <toddy> Ubuntu is more than a distribution. It is a feeling and a life style.
[20:39] <toddy> moment, I think I have a link.
[20:39] <toddy> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/LocoTeam/UbuntuMember
[20:40] <toddy> I don't know if there are all.
[20:40] <jose> wow, that's a good list :)
[20:41] <toddy> I think there could be one or two miss in the list.
[20:41] <toddy> But I don't know.
[20:41] <skellat> Okay
[20:41] <jose> at the moment I see that the team in LP is not following the naming standards, but I would understand this is because of a person with the LP ID of ~ubuntu-de, we could proceed and help you regain the name later on
[20:42] <toddy> we use ubuntu-de for irc and for all other.
[20:42] <toddy> what is the standard?
[20:43] <jose> the Launchpad team would have to be ~ubuntu-de, but you can not change it
[20:43] <jose> a person has taken that ID so we need to follow a procedure in order for you to claim it
[20:43] <toddy> ah
[20:43] <jose> it's currently ~ubuntu-de-locoteam
[20:43] <toddy> correct
[20:43] <toddy> I see
[20:43] <toddy> I haven't notice this.
[20:43] <jose> it's fine :)
[20:44] <skellat> There is also an exception if disproportionate cost involved in making the change such as if you have a large amount of print collateral and/or other promotional material that might have to be updated
[20:44] <toddy> No. That would be good to change it.
[20:44] <skellat> Okay
[20:44] <jose> cool, we can follow up on that later today
[20:44] <toddy> We make materials most with ubuntuusers.de
[20:45] <jose> awesome
[20:45] <skellat> Is there any further discussion or are we ready to go for a vote?
[20:45] <toddy> thanks
[20:46] <jose> I'm ready to go
[20:46] <skellat> #vote That the German LoCo be verified for two years from today's date
[20:46] <meetingology> Please vote on: That the German LoCo be verified for two years from today's date
[20:46] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:46] <skellat> +1
[20:46] <meetingology> +1 received from skellat
[20:46] <costales> +1
[20:46] <meetingology> +1 received from costales
[20:46] <jose> +1
[20:46] <meetingology> +1 received from jose
[20:46] <PabloRubianes> +1
[20:46] <meetingology> +1 received from PabloRubianes
[20:47] <skellat> #endvote
[20:47] <meetingology> Voting ended on: That the German LoCo be verified for two years from today's date
[20:47] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:47] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:47] <skellat> #info If councilor Shankar had been present for this meeting, his vote would have been +1 relative to Germany
[20:47] <toddy> Thanks everybody. :)
[20:47] <costales> Thanks a lot team!! You're doing an amazing work :D Please, keep it! :D Congrats!!! Cheers!
[20:47] <jose> congratulations, toddy, and keep up the good work
[20:47] <toddy> Thanks
[20:48] <jose> I'll follow up with you in order to check the team naming thig
[20:48] <jose> thing*
[20:48] <toddy> thanks jose
[20:48] <PabloRubianes> congrats toddy
[20:49] <toddy> thanks
[20:49] <skellat> #topic Consideration of Resolution
[20:49] <skellat> Is it the pleasure of the LoCo Council to consider the resolution put forward earlier?
[20:49] <jose> -1 on my side
[20:49] <skellat> Okay
[20:49] <jose> I have already stated my thoughts on that on the ML
[20:50] <skellat> We'll defer that to the mailing list
[20:50] <skellat> #info Consideration of resolution deferred to mailing list
[20:50] <skellat> #topic Any Other Business
[20:50] <skellat> Is there any further business to be brought before the LoCo Council at this time?
[20:51] <skellat> #info The next regular meeting of LoCo Council is scheduled for 2000 UTC on August 19, 2014.  If there are issues to be brought to our attention before then please contact us via e-mail at loco-council@lists.ubuntu.com to make us aware.
[20:51] <skellat> And we stand adjourned
[20:51] <skellat> #endmeeting
[20:51] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul 15 20:51:40 2014 UTC.
[20:51] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-07-15-20.00.moin.txt
[20:52] <costales> Thanks skellat :)