[03:05] <freelanceinpriso> are we live?
[13:36] <vasil> QUESTION:Will the SDK be ported to other systems that use unix software i.e MAC
[13:36] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> MEWTH!
[13:38] <fatah_> QUESTION : please i want to install ubuntu on an external hard disk drive. who can explain me what to do ?
[13:38] <quickhat> ls
[13:38] <quickhat> ls
[13:39] <MrPoulpe> pouet
[13:39] <mohamed_> how to install lotus nots & how to make user can't use usb flash on his pc
[13:40] <quickhat> hahaha.. i thought this online terminal.. thats why i tried to issue ls command
[13:41] <mohamed_> is there a program can control all pc in network like netsupport
[13:41] <BXian> hi
[13:41] <fatah_> hi
[13:41] <swandika> hi
[13:42] <quickhat> hey guys watsup
[13:42] <swandika> i cant see the streaming video
[13:42] <swandika> what shoul i do
[13:43] <fatah_> i think that it's not a streaming video
[13:44] <swandika> il try reload the page
[13:44] <fatah_> it was made on 2014-7-10
[14:15] <mhall119> today's live stream starts at 1500 UTC, or in about 45 minutes
[14:39] <AgentXx> hello
[14:42] <earplug> Howdy folks
[14:43] <GranadoEspanda> ola
[14:46] <canyousmell> hey
[14:47]  * DanChapman waves
[14:49] <helloworld_> how are you guys?
[14:51] <earplug> when does this start?
[14:51] <balloons> 10 mins :-)
[14:51] <GranadoEspanda> Is this common ?
[14:51] <balloons> hey everyone
[14:51] <earplug> do you think they will talk about the ubuntu phone?
[14:52] <balloons> every week at this time we hold a live Q and A
[14:52] <Shwetank> hello everyone'
[14:52] <Shwetank> 10 minutes?
[14:53] <earplug> Ubuntu phone? hummm?
[14:53]  * DanChapman taps balloons "Hey there stranger" :-)
[14:53] <balloons> hey DanChapman !
[14:53] <balloons> doing well I trust?
[14:54] <SHARP> hi
[14:54] <tangim_> hi all
[14:54] <nogueira> hello!?
[14:54] <Guest85360> 1
[14:55] <DanChapman> balloons, yes doing well thanks :-) How about you?
[14:55] <dpm> hi everyone! o/
[14:56] <dpm> getting ready for kick off in about 5 mins
[14:56] <nabi> hi
[14:56] <dpm> hi nabi
[14:56] <nabi> hi
[14:56] <hakanx1912> hi
[14:56] <nabi> dpm
[14:56] <Bleky> Hi
[14:59] <mhall119> everybody please refresh the ubuntuonair.com page,the previous video link was broken
[15:00] <balloons> DanChapman, feeling better today. I've had houseguests for 3 weeks
[15:00] <dpm> ok, about to start now!
[15:01] <Earplug> IT'SS  ALIVE
[15:02] <Earplug> I hear ya loud and clear!
[15:04] <dpm> please prepend QUESTION like that
[15:04] <dpm> hi all! o/
[15:05] <Piotrek_> Hello
[15:05] <richie> QUESTION: Are there any plans for bigger changes/features for the next Ubuntu 14.10 desktop edition?
[15:06] <hakanx1912> ?
[15:07] <tangim> hi
[15:07] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> QUESTION: Do you feel canonical is spreading itself to gin with Ubuntu 14.10, Mir, Unity 8, Desktop, Tablet and phone?
[15:07] <dshimer> Suggestion for guests, how about getting folks from non-canonical but related companies or industries to come chat and field questions.  For example companies that use Ubuntu (or Linux in general) as an active part of their business plan, hardware companies who try to support Linux or who offer employees time to be active in development or community, or folks from projects that are closely tied to or really popular in Ubuntu
[15:08] <Piotrek_> Question: I'd like to ask aobut Ubuntu touch - there is almost nothing new in internet... Also no news about Mir - i have an impression that those plans has lost their initial vigor. Is there a plan to release them quickly?
[15:09] <tangim> i have complain about code names of last 2 ubuntu releases
[15:09] <mhall119> Piotrek_: did you see the Mir 0.3 and 0.4 announcements?
[15:09] <Nagain> QUESTION; will there be any chance that Ubuntu Touch support iphone 4
[15:10] <balloons> here's the link to the cd images for unity8 live session: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/current/
[15:10] <balloons> have a look at this page as well, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8DesktopIso
[15:10] <Piotrek_> mhall199: yes, but it was originally anonunced to be a part of Ubuntu in 2013 ... but still is not. Also i don't think it will e a part of 14.10
[15:11] <balloons> dshimer, interesting suggestion, I'll note it. Anyone you'd like to see personally?
[15:11] <mhall119> Piotrek_: that plan was to use Mir as system compositor, and Xmir (modified Xorg) to run Unity 7 + Compiz
[15:11] <mhall119> that all worked, and I actually ran it for almost a year
[15:11] <mhall119> but the Xmir bit had some regressions, so it was decided not to enable that setup by default
[15:13] <trafficjam> What are your plans to be even more felt and embraced in the corporate scene esp. 3rd world countries? Thanks
[15:13] <AgentXx> hello
[15:13] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> QUESTION: When will Ubuntu be the No1 used OS?
[15:13] <balloons> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
[15:14] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> While creating Unity8 are you looking at other possible devices so that you won't have to create a completely new GUI if you ever make a Console or Watch version of Ubuntu?
[15:15] <dshimer> balloons: Dell, HP, Nvidia, Hosting services who us it, Google, Gimp, LibreOffice, Mozilla (examples of a long list), I have heard all these names on one context or another and would love to hear thoughts, use cases, plans....... etc.
[15:15] <Piotrek_> thanks :)
[15:16] <balloons> porting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[15:18] <Earplug> It already is !!!
[15:18] <trafficjam> What are your plans to be even more felt and embraced in the corporate scene esp. 3rd world countries? Thanks
[15:18] <mhall119> ChloeWolfieGirl_: you forgot to use QUESTION on your second one
[15:19] <trafficjam> woops
[15:19] <mhall119> trafficjam: yeah, you too :)
[15:19] <trafficjam> QUESTION: What are your plans to be even more felt and embraced in the corporate scene esp. 3rd world countries? Thanks
[15:19] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> mhall119: thank you ^-^,
[15:19] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> QUESTION: While creating Unity8 are you looking at other possible devices so that you won't have to create a completely new GUI if you ever make a Console or Watch version of Ubuntu?
[15:20] <Earplug> Is Ubuntu working to get more native support for things such as Netflix, Amazon Prime, and other on demand content?
[15:20] <vipor29> question: how long have you guys been in the linux scene for and do you still use windows or totally linux
[15:21] <mhall119> Earplug: start your questions with QUESTION in all caps
[15:21] <RPi_Awesomeness> Yeah, I like vipor's question. To expand on it, have you found software that replaces most of your needed software on Windows
[15:22] <mhall119> vipor29: 100% linux, RPi_Awesomeness yes
[15:22] <RPi_Awesomeness> Nice :)
[15:22] <mhall119> then again, I was a software dev, so finding *nix tools was easier than finding them for windows
[15:23] <dazza> Can we maybe go through creating tests from scratch and a tutorial on how to contribute?
[15:23] <RPi_Awesomeness_> I see...nice :D
[15:23] <dazza> I can read the online docs, but seeing it in action would be nice too.
[15:23] <mhall119> dazza: start it with QUESTIOn, also he may have a video on that already
[15:23] <Earplug> QUESTION Is Ubuntu working to get more native support for things such as Netflix, Amazon Prime, and other on demand content?
[15:24] <vipor29> i found that video editing software was alot easier in linux than in windows,everything is way out of reach for windows
[15:24] <dazza> QUESTION: can we see a walkthrough of the QA contribution process? Like starting and contributing a test from scratch.
[15:25] <dshimer> dpm: Just to be clear, that llist wasn't a question, I was just replying to "who would I like to see as guests".  Just and expansion of my earlier suggestion.
[15:26] <RPi_Awesomeness> QUESTION: Is there any plans to bring Ubuntu stores that sell Ubuntu gear to the USA?
[15:26] <RPi_Awesomeness> *Are there
[15:26] <RPi_Awesomeness> Woo hoo! Go Google!
[15:28] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> QUESTION: With Ubuntu Touch are people within canonical working with people who make desktop apps for Canonical to create Ubuntu Touch apps such as Firefox, the people who make Venom/Tox, IRC clients, VLC, etc to make sure Ubuntu Touch keeps getting more community support and better Ubuntu Touch apps?
[15:28] <RPi_Awesomeness> ^^
[15:29] <JoshyMcD>  
[15:29] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> QUESTION: Will mir do anything for end users, will it make things look and feel smoother on the desktop, etc?
[15:30] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> Thats petty awesome
[15:30] <sonum> and will it be more stable?
[15:30] <RPi_Awesomeness> ^^ Agreed
[15:31] <mhall119> nik90_: I'm still not tired of watching Flashback's convergence :)
[15:33] <RPi_Awesomeness> what was that app called again?
[15:33] <RPi_Awesomeness> :P
[15:33] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> QUESTION: Why would a developer who are making Android and Iphone apps, make an Ubuntu Touch app?
[15:33] <RPi_Awesomeness> Where did that question come from? It's not here...twitter?
[15:35] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> QUESTION: I meant like over just keeping those two, looking at WP and Blackberry who are failing and looking at Firefox and Sailfish who may also take up developing time, why would they choose Ubuntu Touch?
[15:35] <trafficjam> thank you!
[15:36] <nik90_> mhall119: :)
[15:37] <RPi_Awesomeness> You-buntu? I thought it was pronounced oo-boontoo
[15:37] <openMDP> good question
[15:39] <RPi_Awesomeness> lol
[15:40] <mp151> what are the smallest computing platforms (for example, raspberry pi, humming board, etc) that ubuntu is tested and can run?
[15:41] <sonum> QUESTION: why ubuntu doesn't belive in that if something works, its better to leave it that way instead of changing everything for a better outline? I mean, every system upgrade makes my system unstable. Debian is not my thing, as hardware is not well supported. It isn't a way of just keeping things stable and increase hardware compatibility?
[15:41] <RPi_Awesomeness> Running up-to-date Ubuntu on Raspberry Pi is currently impossible, as there is no ARMv6 port (the arch the RPi's CPU is) for Ubuntu.
[15:42] <RPi_Awesomeness> Just an FYI
[15:42] <mhall119> sonum: LTS is what you want to use
[15:42] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> QUESTION: After Meizu and BQ release the first Ubuntu Touch Phones, whats next, or should I ask who? Sony, Black berry, Nokia, dare I say Apple, will Apple be shipping iPhones with Ubuntu Touch on it? (Dreams)
[15:42] <RPi_Awesomeness> Apple. Hah!
[15:42] <RPi_Awesomeness> I think Sony would probably be the next
[15:43] <sonum> yes, I have tried LTS, but it doesn't stay as it was at the beginning. Some important changes are made. Its true that is more stable than mainline, but I reckon that is not enoughly stable
[15:43] <mhall119> ChloeWolfieGirl_: keep dreaming :)
[15:43] <RPi_Awesomeness> Blackberry and Nokia are too proprietary
[15:43] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> RPi_Awesomeness: I could see Sony making an Ubuntu Touch phone, but the only problem would be what canonical has already said, and aligning expectations software wise with users!
[15:44] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> mhall119: SPOILER ALERT xD <3
[15:44] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> RPi_Awesomeness: especially with what they could do with the Scopes!
[15:44] <mhall119> It would be a major change for Blackberry to ship someone else's OS, and Nokia is still restricted by their MS agreement on what phones they can ship
[15:44] <RPi_Awesomeness> Especially seeing as Nokia is owned by Microsoft. Yeah, they did Android, but that's not a full-fledged desktop OS like Ubuntu is that could challenge Windows
[15:45] <Stian_> so Google Hangout works fine with Ubuntu?
[15:45] <RPi_Awesomeness> ChloeWolfieGirl_: Agreed
[15:45] <mhall119> RPi_Awesomeness: MS only bought the Lumia business, not all of Nokia
[15:45] <mhall119> Stian_: yup
[15:45] <RPi_Awesomeness> mhall119: Oh, I see
[15:45] <sonum> mhall119: yes, I have tried LTS, but it doesn't stay as it was at the beginning. Some important changes are made. Its true that is more stable than mainline, but I reckon that is not enoughly stable
[15:45] <RPi_Awesomeness> Stian_: That's handy
[15:46] <mhall119> sonum: what updates have caused you problems on an LTS?
[15:46] <sonum> ubiquity, i have problems with repositories also
[15:47] <sonum> I have uploaded to launchpad also
[15:47] <mhall119> ubiquity the installer?
[15:47] <sonum> yes
[15:47] <mhall119> why are you re-running the installer?
[15:47] <sonum> because I reinstall ubuntu on a PC
[15:48] <sonum> with the last CD iso
[15:48] <RPi_Awesomeness> I was meaning more regarding US-based *online* stores, but okay. Good to know that stores selling pre-installed Ubuntu are coming :D
[15:48] <mhall119> so your problems were not an update on an installed system
[15:48] <sonum> for ubiquity no
[15:48] <mhall119> I don't think ubiquity gets many changes after a release
[15:49] <mhall119> I'd be surprised if it got any, tbh
[15:49] <sonum> i didn't think so, but it stroke me
[15:50] <Bogdan__> The romanian translations for Ubuntu Touch are not reviewed. I translated some expresions, but no one looked on them...
[15:51] <vasil> QUESTION:Will ubuntu make a competetor for the google web api
[15:51] <danielquisbert> :D
[15:52] <RPi_Awesomeness> That's an interesting idea
[15:52] <Chubfish> Hello! Is there any plans to change the layout/look of Ubuntu Software Center? A more Unity feel/look to it ?
[15:54] <sonum> Chubfish: why change Ubuntu Software Center? better to make ir smoother and faster
[15:54] <Chubfish> sonum sure, just feels a bit outdated, the look that is
[15:55] <mhall119> Chubfish: start your questions with QUESTION so they see it
[15:55] <Chubfish> thanks mhall119
[15:55] <Chubfish> QUESTION Hello! Is there any plans to change the layout/look of Ubuntu Software Center? A more Unity feel/look to it ?
[15:55] <sonum> thanks!
[15:57] <RPi_Awesomeness> *dramatic music ...
[15:58] <RPi_Awesomeness> I can't confirm any names
[15:58] <balloons> hehe
[15:58] <mhall119> we need a software senator
[15:58] <Chubfish> Cool, thank you
[15:59] <Chubfish> STATEMENT: You're awesome ;)
[15:59] <Huff> Question: Will Ubuntu ever come preloaded with both Unity and the basic desktop layouts?
[15:59] <asease42> hello why ubuntu is to slowly for gpu ?
[16:00] <mhall119> Huff: we have different flavors for different desktop environments, including Gnome 3, KDE, Xfce and LXDE
[16:00] <mhall119> there's also work to make Cinnamon and MATE available to install
[16:00] <RPi_Awesomeness> QUESTION: Will a future project be installing software from the dash?
[16:00] <Huff> Ok.
[16:01]  * mhall119 started using Evernote syncing, so happy to have that :)
[16:02] <balloons> dazza, hey, glad to hear your interest in writing tests. Are you able to make it today @ 1900?
[16:02] <jjbehrooz> x
[16:02] <jjbehrooz> @b
[16:02] <jjbehrooz> b=
[16:02] <jjbehrooz> @b
[16:02] <balloons> RPi_Awesomeness, more or less that will be the future
[16:03] <balloons> http://projects.davidplanella.org/stats/utopic
[16:04] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hackfest/20140715 has the details. Hope everyone interested can make it at 1900 UTC today :-0
[16:05] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> Its been awesome :3
[16:05] <RPi_Awesomeness> Sweet! I'll try!
[16:05] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> QUESTION: You sure no Apple uPhone? xD
[16:05] <stian_> Great HD stream there
[16:06] <stian_> good to see a Ubuntu performing this
[16:06] <openMDP> thanks!
[16:06] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> bah bah xD
[16:06] <RPi_Awesomeness> ChloeWolfieGirl_: hah
[16:06] <RPi_Awesomeness> That would be interesting looking
[16:06] <stian_> ok bye
[16:06] <RPi_Awesomeness> o/
[16:07] <ChloeWolfieGirl_> RPi_Awesomeness: I don't even want an apple phone, it'd just be awesome to see Apple presenting Ubuntu Touch as there next phone xD
[16:07] <dshimer> Thanks guys
[16:07] <RPi_Awesomeness> That would Lol
[16:07] <balloons> lol
[16:35] <superseb> hello when is there going to be back in the hdmi sound options for amd graphics card
[17:20] <xnox> mhall119: ubiquity get's a ton of changes in point releases of LTS. Intermediate releases have no way to get updated ubiquity, as no media is re-released for those.
[17:25] <jajahaha> hello
[17:25] <Stresss> and what about unity?
[17:27] <Stresss> I think Debian made the right decision to use xfce as default desktop
[17:27] <Stresss> with some work i think they will make the perfect desktop
[17:29] <giampierod> Nope
[17:31] <mhall119> xnox: thanks, it still seemed like an odd thing to complain about destabilizing an exisitng isntall though
[17:31] <xnox> mhall119: yeah.
[18:00] <shookees> hi
[18:21] <mrrpc> hello guys
[18:48] <shookees> hey, so hackfest's up in around 10 minutes, right?
[18:53] <balloons> shookees, yep that's right
[18:53] <balloons> we'll be starting in about 10 mins
[18:53] <shookees> balloons, are there any prereqs apart from python;autopilot?
[18:54] <balloons> shookees, no. for the automated tests, autopilot will be used. For manual tests, you just need to be able to read and write english :-)
[18:56] <balloons> hello everyone.. We'll be starting in about 4 mins
[18:58] <rogercarder> Good evening all, Roger
[18:58] <elfy> hi rogercarder
[19:00] <balloons> we're live
[19:01] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hackfest/20140715
[19:04] <elfy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1340355
[19:04] <balloons> remember any questions, feel free to shout out with QUESTION :-)
[19:06] <balloons> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests
[19:10] <balloons> for those new to bzr and launchpad, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Launchpad
[19:13] <shookees> Question: what elfy did was create a new branch?
[19:15] <shookees> yes, thanks
[19:17] <rogercarder> I think I need to watch a month of tutorials.....
[19:18] <elfy> rogercarder: as far as manual test writing goes - it's really a lot easier than you might think
[19:18] <elfy> as balloons said - I managed :)
[19:20] <balloons> rogercarder, the beauty is, since we're here, you don't have to watch all those tutorials ;-) Give it a whirl and ask questions
[19:20] <elopio> http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/devel/ubuntu-14.04/autopilot/emulator/ubuntuuitoolkit.html#ubuntuuitoolkit.emulators.QQuickListView
[19:22] <elopio> http://pad.ubuntu.com/contributing-toolkit-helpers
[19:22] <balloons> this part Leo is covering deals with the automated side of writing testcases
[19:26] <balloons> if you are wanting to write manual tests, feel free to watch the first half with elfy explaining things. Grab a bug from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize and give it a try
[19:27]  * elfy is hanging about waiting for any questions re that
[19:28] <balloons> shookees, or rogercarder care to give it a try?
[19:28] <shookees> Question: is it necessary to use the newest staging instead of the autopilot from default repos?
[19:28] <shookees> balloons, yes I'm checking it out
[19:29] <balloons> shookees, for the autopilot tests, you'll need to be on utopic, as we target the development version of the framework as it's still evolving. Autopilot, the toolkit, the sdk, etc, everything will be up to date for you if you are on utopic
[19:30] <shookees> ah, understood
[19:30] <balloons> you can run utopic in a vm if you wish.. for the manual tests, it's also helpful, but not required
[19:32] <balloons> dazza, glad to see you made it. hope this helps answer your questions, but if not, feel free to ask
[19:33] <elfy> if someone wants to fix one of the manual bugs - there is an easy one to work through :)
[19:33]  * balloons notes is holding out some long-hanging fruit
[19:33] <balloons> *elfy is holding
[19:33] <elfy> heh
[19:33] <elfy> forgive me if it's an Xubuntu one ;)
[19:36] <elopio> The autopilot tutorial: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/devel/ubuntu-14.04/autopilot/tutorial/tutorial.html
[19:38] <shookees> So an optimal option would be running utopic vm and sshing from host?
[19:38] <balloons> shookees, that's a totally viable option.
[19:39] <rogercarder> Thankyou.
[19:39] <balloons> shookees, some folks like to just run a vm and even full screen it to one of there workspaces
[19:39] <elopio> balloons and everybody else, I'll be working on the slider helper.
[19:39] <elopio> let me know if you need a hand with python, bzr, autopilot or the toolkit.
[19:39] <balloons> the list of helpers to work on is on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hackfest/20140715 page. Here's the direct link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bugs?field.tag=autopilot-helper
[19:40] <balloons> For manual tests, here's the direct link to the bitesize tests to work on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize
[19:41] <balloons> thanks everyone.. Time to hack. If you are interested in contributing, feel free to speak up. This time is for us to help you get started :-)
[19:41] <shookees> thanks, I might try some on helpers tomorrow, since it's quite late at my place, thanks again for a fast intro :)
[20:02] <Endmontagedjdjdj> phshshshs
[22:41] <Flavius> Heiii
[22:42] <Guest51127> hii