| === manny__ is now known as mannyv | ||
| apachelogger | brmbrrm | 08:05 |
|---|---|---|
| apachelogger | Riddell, shadeslayer: here's a bit of a porting problem, there's no bindings yet ^^ | 08:05 |
| Riddell | pyqt has bindings | 08:06 |
| Riddell | what more bindings do you need? | 08:06 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: kf5 | 08:06 |
| apachelogger | update-manager-kde appears to use pykde, so does usb-creator-kde so does software-properties-kde | 08:07 |
| apachelogger | what we could do (and I would find much better anyway) is binding c++ to the python libs we use and write the gui in c++ :P | 08:08 |
| Peace- | hey i have tested plasma 5 on 14.04 and :D i can't connect to my wifi , it ask me for the password then i can't write hte password :D | 08:08 |
| apachelogger | of course cpython is a bit of madness to behold and since I think there is no tech enabling this in any sort of speedy fashion that might be slightly over the top | 08:08 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: :) | 08:11 |
| Riddell | ScottK: calligra can find visio, I think it's problem is libodfgen is too new | 08:18 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: if you find a minute, please test kde:about-distro master | 08:46 |
| apachelogger | it now uses systemd's /etc/os-release rather than the unspecified /etc/lsb_release | 08:47 |
| Riddell | I'm pretty sure lsb_release is speified by lsb | 08:47 |
| Riddell | KDE now depends on systemd! | 08:48 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: it isn't | 08:50 |
| apachelogger | lsb_release the binary is specified | 08:50 |
| Riddell | mm | 08:51 |
| apachelogger | where the binary gets its data from is completely in the dark, and since I'd rather not want to call lsb_release and parse stdout /etc/os-release is the better choice (what with systemd getting adopted all around anyway) | 08:52 |
| Riddell | tell that to arch :) | 08:52 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: why arch? | 08:53 |
| Riddell | they don't like systemd no? | 08:55 |
| apachelogger | I dunno | 08:55 |
| apachelogger | os-release isn't dependent on systemd anyway, it just happens to be part of systemd's components ;) | 08:56 |
| apachelogger | http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/os-release.html | 08:56 |
| Riddell | http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/os-release was more interesting | 08:56 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yep about-distro compiles and runs successfully | 08:57 |
| apachelogger | groovy | 08:57 |
| apachelogger | on the way to download.kde | 09:02 |
| apachelogger | bot broken | 11:29 |
| * apachelogger sighs | 11:30 | |
| apachelogger | kubotu: what happened to you? | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | W, [2014/07/16 11:30:47#21191] WARN -- rfc2812.rb:1393:in `process': Unknown message ":wilhelm.freenode.net 474 kubotu #kubuntu-offtopic :Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned" | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | lol | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | who banned the bot in offtopic? | 11:33 |
| Riddell | ooh nice http://www.webupd8.org/2014/07/how-to-install-plasma-5-in-kubuntu-1410.html | 11:33 |
| * apachelogger looks at jussi | 11:33 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: Oh. | 11:57 |
| Riddell | oh? | 11:59 |
| Riddell | Plasma 5.1 Kickoff meeting in #plasma ! | 11:59 |
| ScottK | Re calligra | 11:59 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 12:36 |
| ejat | if im in trusty | 12:57 |
| ejat | which repo should i add to get kde5 | 12:57 |
| ejat | kubuntu Next only got utopic | 12:57 |
| sgclark | akaik it will only be available for utopic | 12:58 |
| ejat | no plan for back port? | 12:59 |
| turgay | when daily build will be kde5 | 13:00 |
| soee | you can use neon | 13:00 |
| turgay | 14.10 | 13:00 |
| soee | turgay: i think it wont | 13:01 |
| ejat | soee: u mean ppa:neon/kf5 | 13:03 |
| ejat | that ppa ? | 13:03 |
| soee | ejat: https://community.kde.org/Plasma/InstallingNext | 13:03 |
| ejat | thanks soee | 13:04 |
| === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch | ||
| shadeslayer | ejat: no plans to backport no | 13:08 |
| shadeslayer | the thrust of development will be for Utopic | 13:08 |
| * ejat okie noted that .. | 13:09 | |
| ejat | shadeslayer: is it ok to use project neon ppa ? | 13:10 |
| apachelogger | thrust what where? time warp??? | 13:10 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 13:10 |
| Riddell | 14:10 <mck182> digital clock having date | 13:13 |
| jmux | Riddell: I sent a blog proposal. I have a meeting with PR in 30 minutes to get it posted - can you check the text? Sorry I'm out of office the rest of the week, so I'm a bit in a hurry to get it posted this week ;-) | 13:30 |
| Riddell | jmux: sorry also im a meeting for next 30 mins | 13:33 |
| Riddell | jmux: go ahead if you want I trust you | 13:33 |
| Riddell | jmux: oh change KDE5 | 13:33 |
| === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz | ||
| Riddell | to Plasma 5 and Kubuntu integration | 13:33 |
| Riddell | there's no such thing as KDE5 so best to stick to the branding | 13:34 |
| Riddell | jmux: should your blog be on planetkde? | 13:34 |
| jmux | Riddell: ok - thanks for the feedback - I thought KDE5 is the branding - will recheck it | 13:34 |
| Riddell | very much not :) | 13:35 |
| jmux | I don't think th eofficial Munich IT blog is on planetkde. It's more are reference for you, when you wnat to blog. | 13:35 |
| jmux | Riddell: Anyway - thanks for the quick review. The input from five people should be sufficient. | 13:47 |
| shadeslayer | bah | 13:49 |
| Darkwing | Morning! | 14:15 |
| Darkwing | Distro-Hopping Dave is back. | 14:15 |
| sgclark | welcome back | 14:16 |
| Riddell | people always come back to kubuntu, it's because we're so good to hug | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | and because we have hot tubs | 14:19 |
| shadeslayer | mostly because we have hot tubs | 14:19 |
| * shadeslayer is annoyed by http://paste.ubuntu.com/7803667/ | 14:19 | |
| Darkwing | I'm still annoyed that whose of us with HiDPI screens have to suck it up lol | 14:21 |
| === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback | ||
| Riddell | Darkwing: tried plasma 5? | 14:25 |
| Darkwing | Riddell: I'm downloading now. | 14:26 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: it may eat your babies | 14:26 |
| Riddell | but it'll do so in quite a polite way | 14:26 |
| Riddell | sgclark: d | 14:26 |
| Riddell | sorry | 14:26 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: does gdb-minimal conflict with gdb? | 14:26 |
| Darkwing | Lol! | 14:26 |
| Riddell | I think I've seen that issue | 14:27 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ? | 14:27 |
| Riddell | nothing sgclark | 14:27 |
| Darkwing | Well... If it can replace the baby that the wife and I are manufacturing with a KDE and Qt compliant one... I'll be happy | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | dunno | 14:27 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yes it does, fix depends of plasma-desktop | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 14:30 |
| Riddell | to be gdb-minimal | gdb I guess | 14:30 |
| Riddell | that's for dekonqi I think | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | yah | 14:30 |
| Darkwing | So are we trying to push Plasma 5 into Utopic? | 14:31 |
| Darkwing | Plus I'm gong to assume that due to Trusty being LTS we aren't backporting... | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | watch files in plasma-desktop are wrong | 14:35 |
| shadeslayer | hurray | 14:35 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: watch file are n my todo, but you can if you want | 14:36 |
| Darkwing | Does Aaron H still hang out here? | 14:37 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: feel free to fix other watch file issues | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | I need to work on some other stuff | 14:41 |
| BluesKaj | systemd-shim fails to install because cgmanager isn't configured yet on the most recent upgrade; http://paste.kde.org/plkuvatze | 14:49 |
| BluesKaj | so guess I'm stuck here, not agle to upgrade any further | 14:52 |
| BluesKaj | able rather | 14:52 |
| shadeslayer | BluesKaj: please report in #ubuntu-devel | 14:53 |
| shadeslayer | or you know, don't use systemd | 14:53 |
| BluesKaj | yeah shadeslayer, guess I'll re-edit grub , probly a good idea :) | 14:55 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: how does one know that a watch file is wrong | 14:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: because it uses ftp.kde.org | 14:57 |
| shadeslayer | instead of download.kde.org | 14:58 |
| apachelogger | ftp should work as well | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | sure, but it's deprecated and going to be removed | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | at some point | 14:58 |
| apachelogger | it is oh my | 14:58 |
| sgclark | ahh see that I did not know | 14:58 |
| apachelogger | then my original thought applies | 14:58 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: automate \o/ | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | get all dem branches, switch to download.kde xD | 14:59 |
| shadeslayer | we need template meta packaging | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | yeah, that too :P | 14:59 |
| shadeslayer | templatify all the things | 14:59 |
| * apachelogger ponders going for a bike ride | 14:59 | |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.kde.org/puuaslqbw | 14:59 |
| shadeslayer | "Returned true unexpectedly" | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | that's a first | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer, Riddell: by the wayz ... we'll want to throw kubuntu qt5 ports at ppa, otherwise crap will look alien in plasmaold | 15:02 |
| Darkwing | My lord this is beautiful | 15:05 |
| Quintasan | >"Returned true unexpectedly" | 15:05 |
| Quintasan | lol'd | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | much fun is being had when packaging KF5 | 15:06 |
| Darkwing | Huh. Still no UI scaling... | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | still WIP | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | probably for 5.1 | 15:07 |
| Darkwing | But it looks better than 4 did on this screen | 15:08 |
| BluesKaj | heh, as soon as I stopped using systemd and upgraded, systemd-shim and cgmanager installed and configured | 15:10 |
| BluesKaj | daemon I guess | 15:10 |
| * Riddell blogs http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=168 | 15:14 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: qt5 ports? | 15:15 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: arron h is around occationally is us evenings | 15:16 |
| Darkwing | Okay. | 15:16 |
| Darkwing | So, Plasma5 is beautiful on my HiDPI screen | 15:16 |
| Riddell | yay! | 15:17 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: screenshot screenshot! | 15:17 |
| Darkwing | Give me a moment. :-D | 15:17 |
| Darkwing | Some of the fonts and stuff are a bit small. | 15:18 |
| Darkwing | I have force the fonts but the sysui doesn't scale just yet | 15:18 |
| Darkwing | Actually, only one I could find that did scale proper was Ubuntu Unity. | 15:19 |
| Darkwing | The downside of that is that's its Unity. | 15:19 |
| Darkwing | *that it is | 15:19 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: hurrray, that gdb thing fixed it | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | lets see how far I can get to getting a ISO | 15:27 |
| * Riddell crosses fingers | 15:28 | |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: the version in kemoticons is wrong | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | 5.0.0-0ubuntu1.2 | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | you want 5.0.0-0ubuntu2 | 15:47 |
| * shadeslayer fixes and pushes | 15:48 | |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: hmm. all I did was a merge on that, sorry missed | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | yep, which is why the ping :) | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | please take care of versions when merging | 15:48 |
| Darkwing | Okay. 2560x1440 screenshot. http://imgur.com/a/BfxmE | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | though all of this will a thing of the past soon \o/ | 15:49 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: ok will do | 15:49 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: oh yeah? | 15:49 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: yeah, we want to move to a template based packaging system | 15:49 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: huh you have kscreen? where's that from? | 15:49 |
| Darkwing | Eh? | 15:50 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: that display configuration tool we don't ship that (do we?) | 15:51 |
| Darkwing | That's the live Neon Image. | 15:51 |
| Riddell | aah right | 15:51 |
| Darkwing | More to show the resolution. | 15:52 |
| Riddell | yep | 15:52 |
| Darkwing | Dang its beautiful lol | 15:52 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: same thing with kio btw | 15:52 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: blog! blog! | 15:53 |
| Darkwing | I will! | 15:53 |
| Riddell | your http://opendarkwing.com/ blog is still on planet | 15:53 |
| Darkwing | Yeah I know. Must start again. Lol | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | santa: sgclark why mark those symbols as optional? | 15:54 |
| Darkwing | Plasma 5 was the excuse I needed for myself to get back to Kubuntu and KDE again. | 15:54 |
| === alket_ is now known as alket | ||
| sgclark | shadeslayer: the notes said so that it would build in utopc AND debian | 15:55 |
| shadeslayer | would be nice to have build logs associated with review requests | 15:55 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: can I assume I will be shown this template system or will it reduce the need for packagers? | 15:55 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: once we implement it, sure | 15:56 |
| Darkwing | I've been all over. Fedora, Suse, Debian sid KDE, Debian sid gnome, Ubuntu Gnome and Ubuntu Unity. | 15:56 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: it's still a idea that we're hashing out | 15:56 |
| Darkwing | And Win 8.1 | 15:56 |
| shadeslayer | and it'll reduce the need to manually package things, but there'll still be stuff to package | 15:56 |
| santa | shadeslayer: details: one of them appears in debian sid but not on utopic, the other the opposite situation; both are private and if they are gone there's no abi break in any case | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | santa: cheers, but for changes like that in the future, please attach logs to the review request | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | Nice to have full context | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | santa: also, versioning scheme in your requests are wrong | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | we use 1.1 , 1.2 ... for SRU's | 15:58 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: https://trello.com/kubuntu is just waiting for you :) | 15:58 |
| shadeslayer | santa: just thought I'd mention that :) | 15:58 |
| Darkwing | Riddell: Lemme finish this Utopic Install. | 15:58 |
| Darkwing | How did I not know about this?? https://community.kde.org/KDEConnect | 16:00 |
| Riddell | for some reason we don't install it by default | 16:02 |
| Riddell | anyone know why that is? | 16:02 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: kubotu is broken I think | 16:08 |
| * sgclark will be back | 16:23 | |
| tsimpson | the problem with KDE Connect is that it's monolithic rather than an architecture, every feature/protocol requires a new version (on both ends) | 16:30 |
| Darkwing | Eek. | 16:30 |
| Darkwing | I do enjoy quasseldroid | 16:31 |
| BluesKaj | so are symlinks and app launches working in the plasma5-desktop now or does it still suffer from a whole lot of glitches? | 17:09 |
| genii | shadeslayer: Not sure if you recall the k3d bug I filed recently.... at any rate same behaviour except on a whim I tried with kdesudo and it works that way for some reason. But core dump like before as regular user. | 18:03 |
| santa | Riddell: shouldn't libkfilemetadata5-dev named libkfilemetadata-dev ? without the soname | 19:57 |
| Riddell | santa: we will probably want it alongside the existing libkfilemetadata-dev if we put baloo-kf5 in the archive | 20:10 |
| santa | ahhhhh | 20:10 |
| santa | ok | 20:10 |
| santa | thanks for the info | 20:10 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: really, this is quite inconsistent | 20:38 |
| shadeslayer | why not just call it libkf5kfilemetadata-dev | 20:39 |
| debfx | in which (upstream) branch do I commit kdelibs bugfixes nowadays? | 20:56 |
| shadeslayer | KDE/4.14? | 20:58 |
| debfx | there are no 4.13 releases anymore? | 21:00 |
| debfx | seems not | 21:04 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yes that would probably be a good idea | 21:15 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: plus it's going to be a framework soon anyway | 21:19 |
| valorie | fancy! | 22:45 |
| valorie | nice to see you again, Darkwing | 22:50 |
| * valorie goes off to run | 22:50 | |
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