=== manny__ is now known as mannyv [08:05] brmbrrm [08:05] Riddell, shadeslayer: here's a bit of a porting problem, there's no bindings yet ^^ [08:06] pyqt has bindings [08:06] what more bindings do you need? [08:06] Riddell: kf5 [08:07] update-manager-kde appears to use pykde, so does usb-creator-kde so does software-properties-kde [08:08] what we could do (and I would find much better anyway) is binding c++ to the python libs we use and write the gui in c++ :P [08:08] hey i have tested plasma 5 on 14.04 and :D i can't connect to my wifi , it ask me for the password then i can't write hte password :D [08:08] of course cpython is a bit of madness to behold and since I think there is no tech enabling this in any sort of speedy fashion that might be slightly over the top [08:11] apachelogger: :) [08:18] ScottK: calligra can find visio, I think it's problem is libodfgen is too new [08:46] Riddell: if you find a minute, please test kde:about-distro master [08:47] it now uses systemd's /etc/os-release rather than the unspecified /etc/lsb_release [08:47] I'm pretty sure lsb_release is speified by lsb [08:48] KDE now depends on systemd! [08:50] Riddell: it isn't [08:50] lsb_release the binary is specified [08:51] mm [08:52] where the binary gets its data from is completely in the dark, and since I'd rather not want to call lsb_release and parse stdout /etc/os-release is the better choice (what with systemd getting adopted all around anyway) [08:52] tell that to arch :) [08:53] Riddell: why arch? [08:55] they don't like systemd no? [08:55] I dunno [08:56] os-release isn't dependent on systemd anyway, it just happens to be part of systemd's components ;) [08:56] http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/os-release.html [08:56] http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/os-release was more interesting [08:57] apachelogger: yep about-distro compiles and runs successfully [08:57] groovy [09:02] on the way to download.kde [11:29] bot broken [11:30] * apachelogger sighs [11:31] kubotu: what happened to you? [11:33] W, [2014/07/16 11:30:47#21191] WARN -- rfc2812.rb:1393:in `process': Unknown message ":wilhelm.freenode.net 474 kubotu #kubuntu-offtopic :Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned" [11:33] lol [11:33] who banned the bot in offtopic? [11:33] ooh nice http://www.webupd8.org/2014/07/how-to-install-plasma-5-in-kubuntu-1410.html [11:33] * apachelogger looks at jussi [11:57] Riddell: Oh. [11:59] oh? [11:59] Plasma 5.1 Kickoff meeting in #plasma ! [11:59] Re calligra [12:36] 'Morning all [12:57] if im in trusty [12:57] which repo should i add to get kde5 [12:57] kubuntu Next only got utopic [12:58] akaik it will only be available for utopic [12:59] no plan for back port? [13:00] when daily build will be kde5 [13:00] you can use neon [13:00] 14.10 [13:01] turgay: i think it wont [13:03] soee: u mean ppa:neon/kf5 [13:03] that ppa ? [13:03] ejat: https://community.kde.org/Plasma/InstallingNext [13:04] thanks soee === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [13:08] ejat: no plans to backport no [13:08] the thrust of development will be for Utopic [13:09] * ejat okie noted that .. [13:10] shadeslayer: is it ok to use project neon ppa ? [13:10] thrust what where? time warp??? [13:10] yes [13:13] 14:10 digital clock having date [13:30] Riddell: I sent a blog proposal. I have a meeting with PR in 30 minutes to get it posted - can you check the text? Sorry I'm out of office the rest of the week, so I'm a bit in a hurry to get it posted this week ;-) [13:33] jmux: sorry also im a meeting for next 30 mins [13:33] jmux: go ahead if you want I trust you [13:33] jmux: oh change KDE5 === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [13:33] to Plasma 5 and Kubuntu integration [13:34] there's no such thing as KDE5 so best to stick to the branding [13:34] jmux: should your blog be on planetkde? [13:34] Riddell: ok - thanks for the feedback - I thought KDE5 is the branding - will recheck it [13:35] very much not :) [13:35] I don't think th eofficial Munich IT blog is on planetkde. It's more are reference for you, when you wnat to blog. [13:47] Riddell: Anyway - thanks for the quick review. The input from five people should be sufficient. [13:49] bah [14:15] Morning! [14:15] Distro-Hopping Dave is back. [14:16] welcome back [14:18] people always come back to kubuntu, it's because we're so good to hug [14:19] and because we have hot tubs [14:19] mostly because we have hot tubs [14:19] * shadeslayer is annoyed by http://paste.ubuntu.com/7803667/ [14:21] I'm still annoyed that whose of us with HiDPI screens have to suck it up lol === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback [14:25] Darkwing: tried plasma 5? [14:26] Riddell: I'm downloading now. [14:26] Darkwing: it may eat your babies [14:26] but it'll do so in quite a polite way [14:26] sgclark: d [14:26] sorry [14:26] shadeslayer: does gdb-minimal conflict with gdb? [14:26] Lol! [14:27] I think I've seen that issue [14:27] Riddell: ? [14:27] nothing sgclark [14:27] Well... If it can replace the baby that the wife and I are manufacturing with a KDE and Qt compliant one... I'll be happy [14:27] dunno [14:30] shadeslayer: yes it does, fix depends of plasma-desktop [14:30] ok [14:30] to be gdb-minimal | gdb I guess [14:30] that's for dekonqi I think [14:30] yah [14:31] So are we trying to push Plasma 5 into Utopic? [14:32] Plus I'm gong to assume that due to Trusty being LTS we aren't backporting... [14:35] watch files in plasma-desktop are wrong [14:35] hurray [14:36] shadeslayer: watch file are n my todo, but you can if you want [14:37] Does Aaron H still hang out here? [14:41] sgclark: feel free to fix other watch file issues [14:41] I need to work on some other stuff [14:49] systemd-shim fails to install because cgmanager isn't configured yet on the most recent upgrade; http://paste.kde.org/plkuvatze [14:52] so guess I'm stuck here, not agle to upgrade any further [14:52] able rather [14:53] BluesKaj: please report in #ubuntu-devel [14:53] or you know, don't use systemd [14:55] yeah shadeslayer, guess I'll re-edit grub , probly a good idea :) [14:57] shadeslayer: how does one know that a watch file is wrong [14:57] apachelogger: because it uses ftp.kde.org [14:58] instead of download.kde.org [14:58] ftp should work as well [14:58] sure, but it's deprecated and going to be removed [14:58] at some point [14:58] it is oh my [14:58] ahh see that I did not know [14:58] then my original thought applies [14:58] shadeslayer: automate \o/ [14:59] yes [14:59] get all dem branches, switch to download.kde xD [14:59] we need template meta packaging [14:59] yeah, that too :P [14:59] templatify all the things [14:59] * apachelogger ponders going for a bike ride [14:59] http://paste.kde.org/puuaslqbw [14:59] "Returned true unexpectedly" [15:00] that's a first [15:02] shadeslayer, Riddell: by the wayz ... we'll want to throw kubuntu qt5 ports at ppa, otherwise crap will look alien in plasmaold [15:05] My lord this is beautiful [15:05] >"Returned true unexpectedly" [15:05] lol'd [15:06] much fun is being had when packaging KF5 [15:07] Huh. Still no UI scaling... [15:07] still WIP [15:07] probably for 5.1 [15:08] But it looks better than 4 did on this screen [15:10] heh, as soon as I stopped using systemd and upgraded, systemd-shim and cgmanager installed and configured [15:10] daemon I guess [15:14] * Riddell blogs http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=168 [15:15] apachelogger: qt5 ports? [15:16] Darkwing: arron h is around occationally is us evenings [15:16] Okay. [15:16] So, Plasma5 is beautiful on my HiDPI screen [15:17] yay! [15:17] Darkwing: screenshot screenshot! [15:17] Give me a moment. :-D [15:18] Some of the fonts and stuff are a bit small. [15:18] I have force the fonts but the sysui doesn't scale just yet [15:19] Actually, only one I could find that did scale proper was Ubuntu Unity. [15:19] The downside of that is that's its Unity. [15:19] *that it is [15:27] Riddell: hurrray, that gdb thing fixed it [15:27] lets see how far I can get to getting a ISO [15:28] * Riddell crosses fingers [15:47] sgclark: the version in kemoticons is wrong [15:47] 5.0.0-0ubuntu1.2 [15:47] you want 5.0.0-0ubuntu2 [15:48] * shadeslayer fixes and pushes [15:48] shadeslayer: hmm. all I did was a merge on that, sorry missed [15:48] yep, which is why the ping :) [15:48] please take care of versions when merging [15:48] Okay. 2560x1440 screenshot. http://imgur.com/a/BfxmE [15:49] though all of this will a thing of the past soon \o/ [15:49] shadeslayer: ok will do [15:49] shadeslayer: oh yeah? [15:49] sgclark: yeah, we want to move to a template based packaging system [15:49] Darkwing: huh you have kscreen? where's that from? [15:50] Eh? [15:51] Darkwing: that display configuration tool we don't ship that (do we?) [15:51] That's the live Neon Image. [15:51] aah right [15:52] More to show the resolution. [15:52] yep [15:52] Dang its beautiful lol [15:52] sgclark: same thing with kio btw [15:53] Darkwing: blog! blog! [15:53] I will! [15:53] your http://opendarkwing.com/ blog is still on planet [15:54] Yeah I know. Must start again. Lol [15:54] santa: sgclark why mark those symbols as optional? [15:54] Plasma 5 was the excuse I needed for myself to get back to Kubuntu and KDE again. === alket_ is now known as alket [15:55] shadeslayer: the notes said so that it would build in utopc AND debian [15:55] would be nice to have build logs associated with review requests [15:55] shadeslayer: can I assume I will be shown this template system or will it reduce the need for packagers? [15:56] sgclark: once we implement it, sure [15:56] I've been all over. Fedora, Suse, Debian sid KDE, Debian sid gnome, Ubuntu Gnome and Ubuntu Unity. [15:56] sgclark: it's still a idea that we're hashing out [15:56] And Win 8.1 [15:56] and it'll reduce the need to manually package things, but there'll still be stuff to package [15:57] shadeslayer: details: one of them appears in debian sid but not on utopic, the other the opposite situation; both are private and if they are gone there's no abi break in any case [15:57] santa: cheers, but for changes like that in the future, please attach logs to the review request [15:57] Nice to have full context [15:57] santa: also, versioning scheme in your requests are wrong [15:58] we use 1.1 , 1.2 ... for SRU's [15:58] Darkwing: https://trello.com/kubuntu is just waiting for you :) [15:58] santa: just thought I'd mention that :) [15:58] Riddell: Lemme finish this Utopic Install. [16:00] How did I not know about this?? https://community.kde.org/KDEConnect [16:02] for some reason we don't install it by default [16:02] anyone know why that is? [16:08] apachelogger: kubotu is broken I think [16:23] * sgclark will be back [16:30] the problem with KDE Connect is that it's monolithic rather than an architecture, every feature/protocol requires a new version (on both ends) [16:30] Eek. [16:31] I do enjoy quasseldroid [17:09] so are symlinks and app launches working in the plasma5-desktop now or does it still suffer from a whole lot of glitches? [18:03] shadeslayer: Not sure if you recall the k3d bug I filed recently.... at any rate same behaviour except on a whim I tried with kdesudo and it works that way for some reason. But core dump like before as regular user. [19:57] Riddell: shouldn't libkfilemetadata5-dev named libkfilemetadata-dev ? without the soname [20:10] santa: we will probably want it alongside the existing libkfilemetadata-dev if we put baloo-kf5 in the archive [20:10] ahhhhh [20:10] ok [20:10] thanks for the info [20:38] Riddell: really, this is quite inconsistent [20:39] why not just call it libkf5kfilemetadata-dev [20:56] in which (upstream) branch do I commit kdelibs bugfixes nowadays? [20:58] KDE/4.14? [21:00] there are no 4.13 releases anymore? [21:04] seems not [21:15] shadeslayer: yes that would probably be a good idea [21:19] Riddell: plus it's going to be a framework soon anyway [22:45] fancy! [22:50] nice to see you again, Darkwing [22:50] * valorie goes off to run