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TBotNikAll, KDE Wallet is absolute trash, will not take my "sudo" password, will not take my "wifi" password and keeps wifi totally locked out on my laptop.  How do I remove this trash without damaging the system?  Tried straight up apt-get purge and blew up the system.01:39
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valorieTBotNik: you can simply not use it01:51
valorieof course it is completely integrated, and removing it will remove much of your system01:51
ZZRMikeI'm in the market for a laptop and I'm trying to figure out what to look for, can anyone comment on AMD's catalyst drivers for their A series APU's? Or would I be better off with  an i3/i5 with intel's integrated graphics system?01:53
ZZRMikeor is dedicated nvidia the only way to go?01:53
emWhat amount of RAM is suggested for Kubuntu to run very smoothly?02:54
emI presently have 4GB of RAM and (although Im not absolutely sure its the reason) occasionally with a lot of tabs open on Firefox and streaming a lot of stuff, when I start to type fast, the computer gets choppy and freezes for a bit.02:55
valoriethat sounds like a combo of connection speed and computer speed03:06
valorie!ram03:06
ubottuIf you are wondering why some tools report your system has very little free memory, have a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html03:06
valoriehummmm03:07
emvalorie: in regards to that guys question about kwallet, what about going to System > Wallet Management Tool  Then Clicking on Settings > Configure Wallet  and then Unchecking "Enable KDE Wallet subsystem"03:08
valorieem: better and more precise answer than mine03:08
valorieI should have kept silent, since his/her tone annoyed me so03:08
emvalorie: okay thanks. I want to try to help people but I dont feel like Im an expert.03:09
* valorie is no expert03:09
emHe's still here do you think I could ping him with that?03:09
valoriesure!03:09
emOk03:09
emTBotNik: You could try this: Click the kickstarter (lower left corner) System > Wallet Management Tool  Then Clicking on Settings > Configure Wallet  and then Unchecking "Enable KDE Wallet subsystem"03:10
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CodePulsarCan I use Skype on any other client than Skype ?06:07
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mizaHey, any chance to test plasma 5? any available PPA?07:03
emmiza: I know some people have been testing it. But Im not sure about a PPA. Let me see what I find.07:04
lordievadermiza: https://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Using_Project_Neon_to_contribute_to_KDE#Installing_Project_Neon_507:08
lordievaderem: Beat you to it ;)07:09
mizaI tried ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next but nothin to upgrade and i dunnu which package to install07:09
lordievadermiza: It is all explained in the link I gave you ;)07:09
mizaokay ty07:09
emmiza: To install Plasma 5.0 do Ctrl+Alt+T and copy the following commands into the terminal:   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:neon/kf5   //   sudo apt-get update  //  sudo apt-get install project-neon5-session project-neon5-utils project-neon5-konsole07:11
emmiza: source: http://www.noobslab.com/2014/07/kde-plasma-50-new-framework-is.html07:11
emlordievader: Yeah I guess you did. That sucks.07:12
lordievaderem: Don't feel bad, I've had this question before I was prepared :P07:13
yang_would someone tell me how to build a channel of my own and join someone in it?09:20
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nerrHi. Great work with KF5 release. I know it's a tech preview but I would like to know which is better to start testing: using kubuntu 14.04 or using utopic? thks11:16
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shadeslayernerr: either is fine11:36
shadeslayernerr: though for Kubuntu, the focus is utopic11:36
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nerrshadeslayer: thks. Is kf5 the default for utopic?11:43
shadeslayernerr: no11:45
shadeslayernerr: not atleast till 5.2 probably11:46
shadeslayerwhich would be 15.0411:46
nerrshadeslayer: ok, Sounds good to me :)11:46
Guest39720any idea if 14.04 still has the issue that it cant boot with 7870 am card?11:50
Guest39720i have old 13.04 usb stick and it wants to constantly update files and last update into 14.04 (or something) breaks the installation11:51
shadeslayerGuest39720: try it out on a live ISO?11:53
Guest39720is it known issue that modemmanager segfaults?11:55
shadeslayerGuest39720: nope11:55
shadeslayerplease report a bug using ubuntu-bug11:55
Guest39720but the problem is that i dont know the version that does it11:55
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BluesKaj'Morning all12:36
amichairhow can I gracefully shutdown/restart if the shutdown/restart dialog does not appear, and "qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer logout 0 2 2" does nothing?13:18
Guest39720sudo reboot now13:22
Guest39720sudo shutdown13:22
amichairGuest39720: is that graceful? will all apps terminate properly without losing anything?13:22
MichaelPI added ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next ... to kubuntu 14.04 it's taking it... but none of it's packages are there13:26
Guest39720never heard of that ppa13:28
Guest39720i upgraded 14.04 --> 14.10 --> break13:28
MichaelPhttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next13:28
MichaelPits for the kf5 ... the frakeworks5 plasma 213:29
Guest39720can you shortly explain what that means in practise13:30
MichaelPBut Kubuntu next is 14.10 right13:30
Guest39720i wonder how is it possible that kubuntu breaks so often with system updates13:32
Guest39720its too hard to get fixed when you cant connect into net or kde breaks13:32
MichaelP14.04 to 14.10.... you upgraded to an alpha version of kubunto... that why you break13:33
MichaelP14.10 – October 23rd release date13:35
Guest39720that's no good explanation13:36
Guest39720kubuntu has done that before too13:37
MichaelP14.10 is not even a beta yet... it is beyond unstable13:37
Guest39720what's the point of havng possiility of upgrade if it always breaks the system13:37
Guest39720the latest breaks the net conenction, you cant even revert packages13:37
MichaelP14.04 is the latest 14.10 is still being built13:38
MichaelPright now 14.10 is for testers that know what there doing13:39
BluesKajMichaelP,  I beg to differ, using 14.10 now for several months ...very stable. The devs are doing a great job making sure upgrades are working well before adding them to the repos14:02
BluesKajseveral=3months :)14:03
MichaelPBluesKaj: i was trying to explain to him.. it more for people that know what there doing14:03
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MichaelPThink i might pop the 14.10 net install in if the project-neon kf5 is not any better14:07
nerrshadeslayer: Hi again can I use kubuntu-next ppa in 14.04 to upgrade to plasma5? thns in advance14:08
shadeslayerno14:08
rberg_Hi all. is it possible in kde to have my calendar appointments from kontact appear in the calander in panel? I enabled 'Display events' but that only seems to show national holidays.15:49
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Walexrberg_: a calendar and appointment calendar not necessarily the same thing16:07
Walexrberg_: the calendar you are using is an extention of the clock.16:08
Walexrberg_: there is a little 'let that displays the PIM calendar in the16:08
Walexsystem tray16:08
rberg_awesome! its working now.. there must have been a reload sometime between now and when I asked16:09
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rberg_also I tried out the project neon nightly ppa today and plasmashell had a bunch of segmentation faults.. I installed the dbg packages and grabbed the kcrash.txt where can I upload that?16:24
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SouLHey! :D17:18
SouLWho uses youtube-dl?17:18
BluesKajSouL,  I have a few times17:20
SouLBluesKaj: Do you know if is broken now? I always used it to download videos of songs and so but today I can't17:20
BluesKajSouL,  dunno , haven't tried it in a while17:21
SouLOkay BluesKaj :)17:21
SouLthanks17:21
BluesKajSouL,  just tried it , works here17:25
SouLBluesKaj: ok thank you very much :)17:25
ZZRMikeIs there better support for intel HD graphics or AMD's APU graphics on linux?17:25
ZZRMikeOr are both really bad?17:26
BluesKajZZRMike,  my experience is better with intel then amd/ati graphics ...nvidia is good as well17:26
BluesKajthan17:27
ZZRMikeBluesKaj: Thanks, I'm in the market for a laptop so I'm trying to figure out what my options are. Though I suspect Intel's integrated graphics is going to have a difficult time driving a 2560x1440 monitor, can anyone comment on this?17:28
BluesKajZZRMike,  intel graphics are great on this lenovo g500 laptop17:29
BluesKajhave used the hdmi to our plasma tv , but not at 2560x1440, but 1920x1980 works fine17:31
BluesKajZZRMike, ^17:31
ZZRMikeWhat were you doing with it? some gaming? watching video? I'm planning on using it for mostly productivity type stuff so I'm not terribly worried about getting 120fps with ultra settings on x game, I just want to make sure it's not going to be choking when I hook it up to my monitor to work.17:33
BluesKajerr 1920x108017:33
BluesKajno games , just HD video17:33
ZZRMikeCool, sounds like that should be enough for my needs. How do you like your G500? I've been looking around at the various lenovo models.17:34
BluesKajbut I use an entry level video nvidia 8400gs card on the media server pc connected to the tv, ZZRMike17:35
BluesKajZZRMike,  well, m only warning is to watch out for the issues with UEFI/BIOS when trying to install linux. I wasn't very knowledgeable about dealing with UEFI so I just wiped the driver clean and installed W7 and kubuntu ina dual boot. if you ask around especially in the ##linux chat there some really knowledgeable ppl who can help you with that if needed17:39
BluesKajerr the drive17:39
ZZRMikeReferring to having to make a efi partition when installing?17:40
BluesKajyes17:40
ZZRMikeBecause I ran into that with my desktop at home.17:40
ZZRMikeYeah, what a pain in the ass, am i right?17:40
BluesKajyup17:40
ZZRMikeI'm not sure if I'm even going to bother with dual booting my laptop. Only time I'm using windows is if I'm playing games.17:41
BluesKajlinux install via uefi can be done if you follow a certain procedure17:41
BluesKajbut I couldn't be bothered since I had no intention of using W8.1 anyway17:42
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Alma_de_poetabuenas17:59
bprompt!es | Alma_de_poeta18:01
ubottuAlma_de_poeta: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.18:01
Alma_de_poetabprompt:  thanks for the info18:06
xk05hello, im using 14.04 and several window manager are failing to start including xmonad and unity18:07
xk05unity starts partially if i use gdm18:08
xk05gnome-shell will not start with kdm or lightdm, and will start with gdm, but it is the only wm offered18:08
xk05what the heck is going on?18:09
alketxk05: did you ask in ubuntus main channel #ubuntu ?18:13
xk05im running #kubuntu, would that be appropriate?18:13
xk05er, kubuntu18:13
acangianiHi, does anyone knows when kde plasma 5 will have a stable release for 14.04?19:13
acangianithanks in advance19:13
lordievaderacangiani: Never. KF5 will not be included in Kubuntu before 15.04.19:14
acangianireally?19:14
acangianiSo i will have to use weekly snapshots?19:15
lordievaderacangiani: Guess so, from what I've heard the devs won't include it before 5.2 is released.19:16
acangianiHow stable its that? i really want to leave kde4, but i use my laptop for work, so i dont want to spend hours a wekk to repair it19:16
acangianiDarn19:16
lordievaderacangiani: From an earlier conversation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7805044/19:17
lordievaderacangiani: Imo, KF5 is not usable for day to day activities.19:18
acangianiSnif snif19:19
lordievaderacangiani: What's wrong with KDE4?19:19
bprompthmm19:20
bpromptkde4 works peachy for me19:21
acangianibut i want something more stylish :P19:23
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SN3For distribution installation package names and missing apps information, run: inxi --recommends22:11
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AlexZionhi everyone, I just install kubuntu 14.04 on a Acer laptop but I can't get the wireless working, the wlan is Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN, some suggestion ?22:25
ShalokShalomanybody runs neon 5 already on wayland, without x11 ?22:30
emAlexZion: try this: sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source broadcom-sta-common broadcom-sta-source22:30
emAlexZion: then do: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer22:30
emAlexZion: here is my source - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BroadcomSTA%28Wireless%2922:31
AlexZionthanks em I'm trying it22:32
emAlexZion: here's another reference https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx  you might have to reboot after installing the new drivers.22:34
AlexZiongreat buddy , it seems to works, many thanks em, I spent few hours trying to fix it22:36
r1bHi, anyone help me? I've installed Kubuntu using USB Key and ISO, Once installed I let it install updates, all 366 of them, now it doesn't start the desktop How can I roll-back?23:27
SierraARIs it possible, and a good idea, to install Python 3.4 on a kubuntu 13.04 64 bit machine? I'm going to do some work with python, and it was recommended I develop for 3.423:39
ikoniathat's up to you23:40
SierraARK, I havent found anything on installing 3.4 on kubuntu, only seen that 2.7 is installed by default23:41
ikoniaso that would be a huge upgrade23:41
ikoniayou'd need to make sure anything that depended on python would work from that upgrade from 2.x to 3.x23:41
SierraARWould it break anything installed with kubuntu 13.04 by default? I havent installed anything new23:42
ikoniadepends what's using python23:42
SierraARI honestly wouldnt know :(23:42
ikoniaso research23:42
r1bKeep both pythons? if anything built in relies on 2.7 it you could either move the symlink or hardcore the python version23:49
ikoniathat will depend on the package used to install23:51
r1bperhaps DIY and only instal it for yourself SierraAR23:52
ikoniathat sounds like a very bad idea unless you %101 know what you are doing23:54
r1bpython's virtualenv perhaps?23:57
ikoniaI'd recommend againt that also23:59

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