[01:39] <TBotNik> All, KDE Wallet is absolute trash, will not take my "sudo" password, will not take my "wifi" password and keeps wifi totally locked out on my laptop.  How do I remove this trash without damaging the system?  Tried straight up apt-get purge and blew up the system.
[01:51] <valorie> TBotNik: you can simply not use it
[01:51] <valorie> of course it is completely integrated, and removing it will remove much of your system
[01:53] <ZZRMike> I'm in the market for a laptop and I'm trying to figure out what to look for, can anyone comment on AMD's catalyst drivers for their A series APU's? Or would I be better off with  an i3/i5 with intel's integrated graphics system?
[01:53] <ZZRMike> or is dedicated nvidia the only way to go?
[02:54] <em> What amount of RAM is suggested for Kubuntu to run very smoothly?
[02:55] <em> I presently have 4GB of RAM and (although Im not absolutely sure its the reason) occasionally with a lot of tabs open on Firefox and streaming a lot of stuff, when I start to type fast, the computer gets choppy and freezes for a bit.
[03:06] <valorie> that sounds like a combo of connection speed and computer speed
[03:06] <valorie> !ram
[03:07] <valorie> hummmm
[03:08] <em> valorie: in regards to that guys question about kwallet, what about going to System > Wallet Management Tool  Then Clicking on Settings > Configure Wallet  and then Unchecking "Enable KDE Wallet subsystem"
[03:08] <valorie> em: better and more precise answer than mine
[03:08] <valorie> I should have kept silent, since his/her tone annoyed me so
[03:09] <em> valorie: okay thanks. I want to try to help people but I dont feel like Im an expert.
[03:09]  * valorie is no expert
[03:09] <em> He's still here do you think I could ping him with that?
[03:09] <valorie> sure!
[03:09] <em> Ok
[03:10] <em> TBotNik: You could try this: Click the kickstarter (lower left corner) System > Wallet Management Tool  Then Clicking on Settings > Configure Wallet  and then Unchecking "Enable KDE Wallet subsystem"
[06:07] <CodePulsar> Can I use Skype on any other client than Skype ?
[07:03] <miza> Hey, any chance to test plasma 5? any available PPA?
[07:04] <em> miza: I know some people have been testing it. But Im not sure about a PPA. Let me see what I find.
[07:08] <lordievader> miza: https://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Using_Project_Neon_to_contribute_to_KDE#Installing_Project_Neon_5
[07:09] <lordievader> em: Beat you to it ;)
[07:09] <miza> I tried ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next but nothin to upgrade and i dunnu which package to install
[07:09] <lordievader> miza: It is all explained in the link I gave you ;)
[07:09] <miza> okay ty
[07:11] <em> miza: To install Plasma 5.0 do Ctrl+Alt+T and copy the following commands into the terminal:   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:neon/kf5   //   sudo apt-get update  //  sudo apt-get install project-neon5-session project-neon5-utils project-neon5-konsole
[07:11] <em> miza: source: http://www.noobslab.com/2014/07/kde-plasma-50-new-framework-is.html
[07:12] <em> lordievader: Yeah I guess you did. That sucks.
[07:13] <lordievader> em: Don't feel bad, I've had this question before I was prepared :P
[09:20] <yang_> would someone tell me how to build a channel of my own and join someone in it?
[11:16] <nerr> Hi. Great work with KF5 release. I know it's a tech preview but I would like to know which is better to start testing: using kubuntu 14.04 or using utopic? thks
[11:36] <shadeslayer> nerr: either is fine
[11:36] <shadeslayer> nerr: though for Kubuntu, the focus is utopic
[11:43] <nerr> shadeslayer: thks. Is kf5 the default for utopic?
[11:45] <shadeslayer> nerr: no
[11:46] <shadeslayer> nerr: not atleast till 5.2 probably
[11:46] <shadeslayer> which would be 15.04
[11:46] <nerr> shadeslayer: ok, Sounds good to me :)
[11:50] <Guest39720> any idea if 14.04 still has the issue that it cant boot with 7870 am card?
[11:51] <Guest39720> i have old 13.04 usb stick and it wants to constantly update files and last update into 14.04 (or something) breaks the installation
[11:53] <shadeslayer> Guest39720: try it out on a live ISO?
[11:55] <Guest39720> is it known issue that modemmanager segfaults?
[11:55] <shadeslayer> Guest39720: nope
[11:55] <shadeslayer> please report a bug using ubuntu-bug
[11:55] <Guest39720> but the problem is that i dont know the version that does it
[12:36] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[13:18] <amichair> how can I gracefully shutdown/restart if the shutdown/restart dialog does not appear, and "qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer logout 0 2 2" does nothing?
[13:22] <Guest39720> sudo reboot now
[13:22] <Guest39720> sudo shutdown
[13:22] <amichair> Guest39720: is that graceful? will all apps terminate properly without losing anything?
[13:26] <MichaelP> I added ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next ... to kubuntu 14.04 it's taking it... but none of it's packages are there
[13:28] <Guest39720> never heard of that ppa
[13:28] <Guest39720> i upgraded 14.04 --> 14.10 --> break
[13:28] <MichaelP> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next
[13:29] <MichaelP> its for the kf5 ... the frakeworks5 plasma 2
[13:30] <Guest39720> can you shortly explain what that means in practise
[13:30] <MichaelP> But Kubuntu next is 14.10 right
[13:32] <Guest39720> i wonder how is it possible that kubuntu breaks so often with system updates
[13:32] <Guest39720> its too hard to get fixed when you cant connect into net or kde breaks
[13:33] <MichaelP> 14.04 to 14.10.... you upgraded to an alpha version of kubunto... that why you break
[13:35] <MichaelP> 14.10 – October 23rd release date
[13:36] <Guest39720> that's no good explanation
[13:37] <Guest39720> kubuntu has done that before too
[13:37] <MichaelP> 14.10 is not even a beta yet... it is beyond unstable
[13:37] <Guest39720> what's the point of havng possiility of upgrade if it always breaks the system
[13:37] <Guest39720> the latest breaks the net conenction, you cant even revert packages
[13:38] <MichaelP> 14.04 is the latest 14.10 is still being built
[13:39] <MichaelP> right now 14.10 is for testers that know what there doing
[14:02] <BluesKaj> MichaelP,  I beg to differ, using 14.10 now for several months ...very stable. The devs are doing a great job making sure upgrades are working well before adding them to the repos
[14:03] <BluesKaj> several=3months :)
[14:03] <MichaelP> BluesKaj: i was trying to explain to him.. it more for people that know what there doing
[14:07] <MichaelP> Think i might pop the 14.10 net install in if the project-neon kf5 is not any better
[14:08] <nerr> shadeslayer: Hi again can I use kubuntu-next ppa in 14.04 to upgrade to plasma5? thns in advance
[14:08] <shadeslayer> no
[15:49] <rberg_> Hi all. is it possible in kde to have my calendar appointments from kontact appear in the calander in panel? I enabled 'Display events' but that only seems to show national holidays.
[16:07] <Walex> rberg_: a calendar and appointment calendar not necessarily the same thing
[16:08] <Walex> rberg_: the calendar you are using is an extention of the clock.
[16:08] <Walex> rberg_: there is a little 'let that displays the PIM calendar in the
[16:08] <Walex> system tray
[16:09] <rberg_> awesome! its working now.. there must have been a reload sometime between now and when I asked
[16:24] <rberg_> also I tried out the project neon nightly ppa today and plasmashell had a bunch of segmentation faults.. I installed the dbg packages and grabbed the kcrash.txt where can I upload that?
[17:18] <SouL> Hey! :D
[17:18] <SouL> Who uses youtube-dl?
[17:20] <BluesKaj> SouL,  I have a few times
[17:20] <SouL> BluesKaj: Do you know if is broken now? I always used it to download videos of songs and so but today I can't
[17:21] <BluesKaj> SouL,  dunno , haven't tried it in a while
[17:21] <SouL> Okay BluesKaj :)
[17:21] <SouL> thanks
[17:25] <BluesKaj> SouL,  just tried it , works here
[17:25] <SouL> BluesKaj: ok thank you very much :)
[17:25] <ZZRMike> Is there better support for intel HD graphics or AMD's APU graphics on linux?
[17:26] <ZZRMike> Or are both really bad?
[17:26] <BluesKaj> ZZRMike,  my experience is better with intel then amd/ati graphics ...nvidia is good as well
[17:27] <BluesKaj> than
[17:28] <ZZRMike> BluesKaj: Thanks, I'm in the market for a laptop so I'm trying to figure out what my options are. Though I suspect Intel's integrated graphics is going to have a difficult time driving a 2560x1440 monitor, can anyone comment on this?
[17:29] <BluesKaj> ZZRMike,  intel graphics are great on this lenovo g500 laptop
[17:31] <BluesKaj> have used the hdmi to our plasma tv , but not at 2560x1440, but 1920x1980 works fine
[17:31] <BluesKaj> ZZRMike, ^
[17:33] <ZZRMike> What were you doing with it? some gaming? watching video? I'm planning on using it for mostly productivity type stuff so I'm not terribly worried about getting 120fps with ultra settings on x game, I just want to make sure it's not going to be choking when I hook it up to my monitor to work.
[17:33] <BluesKaj> err 1920x1080
[17:33] <BluesKaj> no games , just HD video
[17:34] <ZZRMike> Cool, sounds like that should be enough for my needs. How do you like your G500? I've been looking around at the various lenovo models.
[17:35] <BluesKaj> but I use an entry level video nvidia 8400gs card on the media server pc connected to the tv, ZZRMike
[17:39] <BluesKaj> ZZRMike,  well, m only warning is to watch out for the issues with UEFI/BIOS when trying to install linux. I wasn't very knowledgeable about dealing with UEFI so I just wiped the driver clean and installed W7 and kubuntu ina dual boot. if you ask around especially in the ##linux chat there some really knowledgeable ppl who can help you with that if needed
[17:39] <BluesKaj> err the drive
[17:40] <ZZRMike> Referring to having to make a efi partition when installing?
[17:40] <BluesKaj> yes
[17:40] <ZZRMike> Because I ran into that with my desktop at home.
[17:40] <ZZRMike> Yeah, what a pain in the ass, am i right?
[17:40] <BluesKaj> yup
[17:41] <ZZRMike> I'm not sure if I'm even going to bother with dual booting my laptop. Only time I'm using windows is if I'm playing games.
[17:41] <BluesKaj> linux install via uefi can be done if you follow a certain procedure
[17:42] <BluesKaj> but I couldn't be bothered since I had no intention of using W8.1 anyway
[17:59] <Alma_de_poeta> buenas
[18:01] <bprompt> !es | Alma_de_poeta
[18:06] <Alma_de_poeta> bprompt:  thanks for the info
[18:07] <xk05> hello, im using 14.04 and several window manager are failing to start including xmonad and unity
[18:08] <xk05> unity starts partially if i use gdm
[18:08] <xk05> gnome-shell will not start with kdm or lightdm, and will start with gdm, but it is the only wm offered
[18:09] <xk05> what the heck is going on?
[18:13] <alket> xk05: did you ask in ubuntus main channel #ubuntu ?
[18:13] <xk05> im running #kubuntu, would that be appropriate?
[18:13] <xk05> er, kubuntu
[19:13] <acangiani> Hi, does anyone knows when kde plasma 5 will have a stable release for 14.04?
[19:13] <acangiani> thanks in advance
[19:14] <lordievader> acangiani: Never. KF5 will not be included in Kubuntu before 15.04.
[19:14] <acangiani> really?
[19:15] <acangiani> So i will have to use weekly snapshots?
[19:16] <lordievader> acangiani: Guess so, from what I've heard the devs won't include it before 5.2 is released.
[19:16] <acangiani> How stable its that? i really want to leave kde4, but i use my laptop for work, so i dont want to spend hours a wekk to repair it
[19:16] <acangiani> Darn
[19:17] <lordievader> acangiani: From an earlier conversation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7805044/
[19:18] <lordievader> acangiani: Imo, KF5 is not usable for day to day activities.
[19:19] <acangiani> Snif snif
[19:19] <lordievader> acangiani: What's wrong with KDE4?
[19:20] <bprompt> hmm
[19:21] <bprompt> kde4 works peachy for me
[19:23] <acangiani> but i want something more stylish :P
[22:11] <SN3> Error 5: dependency not met: gawk not found in path.
[22:11] <SN3> For distribution installation package names and missing apps information, run: inxi --recommends
[22:12] <SN3> CPU~Quad core Intel Core i5-4670 CPU (-MCP-) clocked at Min:800.000Mhz Max:3401.000Mhz Kernel~3.13.0-30-generic x86_64 Up~13 days Mem~4543.3/15454.7MB HDD~1764.4GB(1.8% used) Procs~218 Client~Quassel [M] v0.10.0 (dist-575f27e) inxi~2.1.2
[22:25] <AlexZion> hi everyone, I just install kubuntu 14.04 on a Acer laptop but I can't get the wireless working, the wlan is Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN, some suggestion ?
[22:30] <ShalokShalom> anybody runs neon 5 already on wayland, without x11 ?
[22:30] <em> AlexZion: try this: sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source broadcom-sta-common broadcom-sta-source
[22:30] <em> AlexZion: then do: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[22:31] <em> AlexZion: here is my source - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BroadcomSTA%28Wireless%29
[22:32] <AlexZion> thanks em I'm trying it
[22:34] <em> AlexZion: here's another reference https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx  you might have to reboot after installing the new drivers.
[22:36] <AlexZion> great buddy , it seems to works, many thanks em, I spent few hours trying to fix it
[23:27] <r1b> Hi, anyone help me? I've installed Kubuntu using USB Key and ISO, Once installed I let it install updates, all 366 of them, now it doesn't start the desktop How can I roll-back?
[23:39] <SierraAR> Is it possible, and a good idea, to install Python 3.4 on a kubuntu 13.04 64 bit machine? I'm going to do some work with python, and it was recommended I develop for 3.4
[23:40] <ikonia> that's up to you
[23:41] <SierraAR> K, I havent found anything on installing 3.4 on kubuntu, only seen that 2.7 is installed by default
[23:41] <ikonia> so that would be a huge upgrade
[23:41] <ikonia> you'd need to make sure anything that depended on python would work from that upgrade from 2.x to 3.x
[23:42] <SierraAR> Would it break anything installed with kubuntu 13.04 by default? I havent installed anything new
[23:42] <ikonia> depends what's using python
[23:42] <SierraAR> I honestly wouldnt know :(
[23:42] <ikonia> so research
[23:49] <r1b> Keep both pythons? if anything built in relies on 2.7 it you could either move the symlink or hardcore the python version
[23:51] <ikonia> that will depend on the package used to install
[23:52] <r1b> perhaps DIY and only instal it for yourself SierraAR
[23:54] <ikonia> that sounds like a very bad idea unless you %101 know what you are doing
[23:57] <r1b> python's virtualenv perhaps?
[23:59] <ikonia> I'd recommend againt that also