[00:06] wxl: Hi I'm back [00:07] wxl: I looked at the two cards on http://h-node.org/videocards/catalogue/en/1/1/undef/undef/works_with_3D/PCI/undef/undef but they are both for laptops [00:29] Would anyone be able willing to help me with a problem with wifi? [00:29] !details [00:29] Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel) [00:29] do you know what kind of wifi it is? [00:30] I am at a Panera. I know the wifi works as I have used it on my home router. [00:30] However, when I try to connect on the router here, I am unable to do so. I suspect it might be a problem with a redirect page they have setup. [00:31] do you see the network? [00:31] Yes [00:31] are you currently on phone or something and that works [00:32] I have two laptops with me. [00:32] This is not linux that I am talking to you on. [00:32] Can anyone help me install flash player? Doing the sudo command in the terminal isn't working [00:32] which sudo command are you using and what is the error? [00:33] UltimaKR: this article may be of help to you. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_trusty_30way&num=1 [00:33] sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree [00:33] john1978: did you see the nm-applet and have you run updates at home? [00:34] Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Note, selecting 'flashplugin-installer' instead of 'flashplugin-nonfree' The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required: libreadline5 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it. The following extra packages will be installed: libasound2-plugins libspeexdsp1 Suggested packages: firefox x-ttcidfont-conf ttf-ms [00:34] The nm-applet in the lower right hand corner? if that is what you mean by see, yes. I do believe I have run updates yet, at least beyond what was included in installation. [00:34] Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main libspeexdsp1 i386 1.2~rc1-6 404 Not Found [IP: 2001:67c:1562::13 80] Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main libasound2-plugins i386 1.0.25-2ubuntu1 404 Not Found [IP: 2001:67c:1562::13 80] Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/speex/libspeexdsp1_1.2~rc1-6_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 2001:67c:1562::13 80] Failed to fetch http://us. [00:35] All that stuff came up [00:36] UltimaKR: run the [00:36] sudo apt-get autoremove [00:36] to get rid of excess stuff. [00:36] I meant to say I do not believe that I have run updates yet. [00:36] UltimaKR: are you on quantal ? [00:37] I just did the autoremove...I am not familiar with quantal? [00:37] If you mean Lubuntu 12.10, then yes [00:40] phillw: That article on the graphics card says they are all PCI-E...my computer only has regular PCI slots [00:40] any ideas ianorlin? [00:40] UltimaKR: okies... I'll go do some more digging :) [00:41] UltimaKR: for flash, try [00:41] sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree [00:41] Package pepperflashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package 'pepperflashplugin-nonfree' has no installation candidate [00:42] That is what came up. This is all weird because my installation disc is the same as for another computer and it never had this problem [00:43] UltimaKR: could be a corruption in the apt data base [00:43] does anyone have any ideas about the problem i described above? [00:43] UltimaKR: you in USA ? [00:44] phillw: Yes I am. How would I fix that corruption? [00:44] UltimaKR: I'll go look up a set of instructions. In the mean time, have a look at https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/geforce-8400gs-1gb-pci-express-20-video-card-gnulinux-full-low-profile-brackets and see if that is okay for you. [00:45] Did I do something to be ignored? [00:45] UltimaKR: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1776763&p=10909871#post10909871 [00:46] phillw: That still says PCI-express. My motherboard doesn't have that slot. The constraint of only having PCI is what makes it tough [00:46] john1978: sorry, no... just a sudden set of questions :) [00:46] john1978: I am not ignoring you, I just have no idea how to answer your problem lol [00:47] Apparently, this question is not able to be answered…I have asked on multiple boards and now here to no avail. [00:47] sheesh :/ [00:47] hmm not sure did you tpye password right [00:47] did you open browser? [00:47] I am not upset with you…it is just rather frustrating [00:47] are you talking to me ianorlin? [00:47] yes john1978 [00:47] john1978: Well I am brand new to linux so I may not be much help. Did you try the #ubuntu channel? Usually more people there if you cannot get the answer here [00:47] I have seen stuff with portal that you need to open browser [00:48] i did ianorlin but no dice [00:48] phillw: This pops up: E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead [00:48] i will try the ubuntu channel maybe they will have some ideas [00:48] thanks [00:49] UltimaKR: do you have some non standard PPA's added? [00:49] phillw: Yes one, but this did not work even before that. [00:50] remove that ppa, then preform another reset. [00:50] Can I get back to only standard ones? [00:50] *perform* [00:51] UltimaKR: yes, use menu --> system tools --> Synaptic Packager Manager, from that app there is a tab for repository selection. [00:52] I got rid of it and now trying the update [00:52] E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [00:53] okies, have you run the dpkg command as well? [00:53] what is that? Sorry I am brand new to all this [00:54] he says that you may need to run a 3rd command [00:54] oh that..yeah i did [00:54] okies, now run [00:54] sudo apt-get upgrade [00:55] Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [00:57] !eolupgrade [00:57] End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [00:57] UltimaKR: I'd suggest a reboot, so we know you are running what would be expected. then try the [00:57] sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree [00:57] again [00:57] reboot as in restarting the machine or reinstall? [00:57] john1978: when you try to connect with nm-applet what happens ? [00:57] and is that eol thing for me? [00:58] yes it is UltimaKR [00:58] reboot as in restart [00:58] I will try that be right back [01:00] Could you tell me what the command was again? [01:00] sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree [01:01] Package pepperflashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package 'pepperflashplugin-nonfree' has no installation candidate [01:01] Same thing [01:02] ianor: What was that EOL thing? Isn't that Ubuntu and not Lubuntu? [01:02] it is same for both [01:03] ianor: What are you saying I should do? I have 12.10 [01:04] UltimaKR_: [01:04] sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install [01:05] sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree && sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install [01:05] is that all one line? [01:05] the && is needed [01:05] ah the && [01:05] same error [01:07] I think I am going to reinstall Lubuntu and see if it works because the other computer never went through this [01:07] sorry, I'm about out of ideas... We get an error while trying to reset the apt database and apt-get cannot see the pepperflashplugin.... [01:08] It's OK. Thanks a lot for trying. I will let you know if a reinstall fixes it [01:08] Do run the self test on the cd / dvd / usb stick before you do the re-install. This really stinks of a corruption in the installer ( [01:09] if you are installing from cd / dvd... get a cd lens cleaner and clean the lens on the cd/dvd drive. [01:10] It is also not unknown for a cd / dvd burned on one machine to have read errors on another. [01:13] phillw he is on 12.10 which is eol [01:16] ianorlin: I thought he was the guy who switched over to 14.04... my mistake... still good practice for my google-fu :P [01:39] phillw: Hi I finished the install. Which command should I use for the flash this time? [01:39] UltimaKR: did you re-install 12.10 ? [01:39] Yes. [01:40] According to the system profiler it is Ubuntu 12.10 [01:41] that is why we cannot get flash installed. I missed the bit when ianorlin asked what release you where on. the reason you are getting 'does not exists' errors is because that release no longer exists for support. [01:41] 12.10 isn't the newest lubuntu? [01:41] no 14.04 is the newest and it is long term support for 2 years [01:41] UltimaKR: that was october 2012 [01:42] UltimaKR: grab the 14.04 LTS [01:42] Oh...so how do I upgrade without redoing the whole thing? [01:43] I wouldn't from a fresh reinstall [01:43] UltimaKR: by the time you have done 12.10 --> 13.04 --> 13.10 --> 14.04 You will have a confused system. Better to do a clean 14.04 [01:44] So make a brand new disc? I didn't know you had to upgrade 1 by 1 [01:44] you have no data that you need to keep. Just put 14.04 onto the system. Have it plugged into ethernet and do a full update after installing (bug fixes) [01:45] UltimaKR: yup, the release team are working on the idea of being able to upgrade to the next LTS, but it is not out yet. [01:45] The computer isn't in the same room as the router so I will just use the wireless adapter [01:45] I will download 14.04 and see if I can get it going [01:45] Thanks a lot! [01:46] UltimaKR: just be aware that the network icon will not be there... it is a bug that is now fixed [01:47] but it should connect [01:48] Oh this one asked for a network password. This won't? [01:49] it should ask for the network password, just be aware of bug 1308348 [01:49] bug 1308348 in lxsession (Ubuntu Trusty) "network settings indicator missing from panel" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308348 [01:50] it is fixed in the updates, but the original ISO does not have it. 14.04.1 should have it on as one of the fixes. [01:53] Ok so hopefully the iso I am downloading now from the site should work [01:54] Thanks ubottu lol [01:55] UltimaKR: should be okay... you may have to manually add the nm-applet and then later delete that patch, it is a short job and explained on the bug reoprt. [01:55] *report* [01:56] Alright thanks...hopefully the new release should make this work much more smoothly [01:56] once all that is done, back to graphics card searching lol [01:56] it is a better system than 12.10 was [01:57] that's encouraging because until this 12.10 was pretty good [01:57] each release has got better :) [03:37] hey guys [03:37] Hi!! [03:38] Hilikus: Whats up? [03:38] i did a release update of lubuntu and now it looks like the WM is screwed. when the DM starts, it's only a black window. i thought the system was just frozen until after 2 days i did right click and i go get a context menu [03:39] any ideas on what i can try [03:40] Hilikus: I have no clue... [03:41] Hilikus: do any of your keys work? can you log out? [03:42] Hilikus: if you do ctrl+alt+f1,does it take yu to a tty page? [03:42] yes [03:43] the system works, but the desktop is all black [03:43] and when i open say chromium, if i minimize it, the window just disappears [03:43] i can't resize the window apart from max or minimized [03:44] Hilikus: Hmm,what are your pcs specs? [03:44] it's a vm, but again, it was working fine with 12.10 until i updated to 13.04 [03:45] Hilikus: You could try a different de,otherwise i dont know how to help. :-/ [03:48] how do i change it? [03:51] Hilikus: you have to install a different one. what would you like to try? [03:51] Hilikus: can you see the login screen? you must be able to access it. [03:52] oh right click on the desktop and click desktop prefrences [03:52] and set a new wallpaper [03:52] or did you log in to openbox? [04:00] Hi I was having trouble with the 14.04 install...everything seemed fine but when I booted up I got this: [04:02] symbol grub _ term _ highlight _ color not found [04:02] how can I fix that? [04:39] somehow my mouse drags my lubuntu windows and keeps redrawing the windows very slowly while moving..it is very annoying..I have a 3dfx AGP voodoo 3 . Does the lack of 3dfx driver in lubunutu has anything to do with this issue? === SpComb^ is now known as SpComb === head_victim is now known as jared [13:38] Is anybody here? [13:52] UltimaKR_: !ask [13:52] !ask | UltimaKR_ [13:52] UltimaKR_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [13:56] phillw: Oh hi again! Wasn't sure if anyone was here. I am downloading a boot repair iso to see if it can fix the grub_term_highlight_color not found error [13:56] phillw: Only asked that to see if the webchat worked fro my phone [13:57] okies :) [13:59] UltimaKR_: bug 1289977 has the details of using reconfigure to fix grub (not grub install). [13:59] bug 1289977 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 14.04 Update breaks grub, resulting in "error: symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found"" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1289977 [14:00] phillw: Yes, but I don't think the "try lubuntu" option on my livecd allows wireless internet connection [14:01] it should do.... [14:02] and under the boot options, 'advanced' will allow you to drop to terminal so you don't need a repair disk. [14:02] phillw: how can i do that? is this from the livecd? i didnt see advanced [14:04] just run the cd in try lubuntu mode and you will have access to lxterminal :) [14:04] I have "try", "install", "check disc", "test memory", and "boot from first hard disc" [14:06] phillw: I did that but "failed to get canonical path of /cow" [14:07] UltimaKR_: have you run the "check disc" option? [14:07] No should I? [14:07] hello, can somebody help me with lubuntu? :) [14:10] UltimaKR_: it is always a good idea [14:10] !ask | suncokret_ [14:10] suncokret_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [14:11] thanks [14:14] phillw: I am doing it now. Should take a little while. [14:15] okies [14:17] In Lubuntu 14.04 when i change themes or colors in "customize look and feel" why it don't accept it on Synaptic, or in other programs which run as root? In Lubuntu 13.04 it worked. And how can i fix this to work in 14.04. [14:19] phillw: No errors found. What else can I try or should I just go with the boot repair cd? [14:20] go with a repair cd [14:20] phillw: Ok thanks. I downloaded the ISO while we did the disc check so I just need to burn it [14:21] suncokret_: you may have a manifestation of bug 1316384 have a read of that bug and see if it is what you are seeing (specifically that you have the recent version of lxsession - 0.4.9.2+git20140410-0ubuntu2 [14:21] bug 1316384 in lxsession (Ubuntu Trusty) "After upgrade from Lubuntu 13.10 to 14.04, color customization is ignored" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1316384 [14:24] yes, it was bug which didn't accept color customization in any application or menu, but that is fixed. Problem is because it don't accept color customization in Synaptic (and other programs which run as root), this bug was on Lubuntu 13.10 too [14:26] <[diablo]> afternoon #lubuntu ... guys I've got my laptop connected to 2 x monitors. I've got the dual screen setup correctly and am using it (Used ARandR). But every time I boot up and login, I have to load the configuration. Is there a way to apply it system wide, so it's define at boot as the login manager is ugly resolution too [14:27] <[diablo]> also enabling syncing would be nice cos I'm getting sharding when moving windows around the displays [14:30] [diablo]: have a read of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2194268 [14:31] <[diablo]> thanks phillw will do [14:32] suncokret_: I can only suggest staying on the channel and waiting for rafaellaguna to comee online. He is much more involved with themes (he is Team Leader of artwork team). [14:32] thanks... [14:32] i am still on Lubuntu 13.04 because of this bug [14:32] If I see him land on my area, I'll ensure he comes on here. [14:34] in 14.04 i was try to upgrade lxsession on 0.4.9.2+git20140410-0ubuntu2, but i don't know why it don't accept choosen colors in Synaptic :) [14:35] suncokret_: it could be that the theme is hard coded into the application. Rafael would know :) [14:35] do you have Lubuntu 14.04? [14:35] I have 14.10 :) [14:36] then try to change custom background color in theme, and run synaptic... [14:37] it must accept your custom colors [14:37] i am now in 13.04 and my custom colors are in every program [14:40] it does not [14:42] good, i am glad because i found this channel for Lubuntu, i hope that Rafael or someone from Lubunt team will solve this problem :) [14:42] so we will wait for him to come [14:46] when is Rafael usually here? [14:48] <[diablo]> phillw, sorry but is there no way of taking a dump of the current X server configuration and putting over to the system wide xorg conf? [14:49] <[diablo]> also really need to get the vertical blank sync working too [14:49] [diablo]: I have virtually zero experience of ARanR, used it once to give a presentation using an OHP. [14:50] <[diablo]> ah ok [14:50] <[diablo]> np [14:50] * [diablo] will google [14:54] [diablo]: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Setting%20xrandr%20changes%20persistently [14:57] thanks on help, i have to go now, i will come later and i hope that Rafael will be here.. have a nice day, people [15:10] <[diablo]> cheers phillw sorry was afk [15:32] phillw: The repair disc worked and this lubuntu version came with flash already there so thats perfect [15:33] UltimaKR_: nice to hear :D [15:33] Back to finding graphics cards and figuring out how to play League of Legends on this thing lol [15:34] phillw: You wouldn't happen to know how to play Windows games on here would you? I know it has something to do with Wine but it always seems to get more complex [15:36] just that you use wine, those in the know say to always use the dev version :) http://www.winehq.org/ [16:21] hello Rafael, Phil told me that you can help me so i wait for you :) [16:22] oh wow :) [16:22] haa [16:22] haha [16:22] how can I help you? [16:22] i don't know how to solve problem in Lubuntu 14.04 (that problem start with Lubuntu 13.10), and in 13.04 that is working [16:23] tell me [16:24] when you choose theme in look and feel, or change your custom colors it don't accept it in Synaptic (or any other program which run as root) [16:24] in 13.04 that work fine [16:24] right, that's because the theme you're using is one in your ~/home/.themes folder [16:25] those themes belong to you and only you can use them [16:25] themes installed in /usr/share/themes are visible by all users [16:25] when you launch synaptic, it's a "root" app, so it can't use your personal themes [16:26] I'm not sure if I'm clear [16:26] yes [16:26] but why that work in 13.04? [16:26] but it makes some root apps ugly, and you want to solve it, no? [16:27] i use crux theme with my custom colors in 13.04 [16:27] ok [16:27] and that wore in Synaptic (and root) too [16:27] but in 14.04 don't work [16:27] so [16:27] yes, that theme is global (installed for everybody) [16:28] can you see it? maybe you need to install it [16:28] how i can use for example crux theme with my custom colors in Synaptic? [16:28] if you want root apps use your themes, open a terminal and type this: sudo ln -s ~/.themes /root/.themes [16:29] update manager, synaptic, etc. will get your selected theme [16:29] and can i change my custom colors in that root themes? [16:29] and how [16:29] ? [16:30] yes, your customizations are stored in a folder of yours, and doing this all root apps can access it [16:30] otherwise they only look for /usr/share/themes, and when not found, they use another [16:31] so [16:31] this command [16:31] sudo ln -s ~/.themes /root/.themes [16:32] tell system to look themes in my folder? [16:32] yes [16:32] everybody (including "root user") can access that folder, only that folder [16:33] and by default system only search in /usr/share/themes and that is problem? [16:33] ? [16:33] yes [16:33] if i understand correct [16:33] thank you [16:33] you're welcome :) [16:33] i will try :) [16:34] and sorry for waiting so looong time [16:34] background color is very important for me [16:34] because white is very bad for eyes [16:34] anyway, to use crux you must install the package gnome-themes-standard or gnome-themes-extra (I don't really remember) [16:34] so i used lubuntu 13.04 only because of colors [16:34] Lubuntu 14.04 has the same theme features [16:35] i didn't install that gnome-themes-standard but i can use crux [16:35] maybe they're already included :) [16:35] yes [16:36] and i didn't wait long, i was here first time maybe two hours before [16:36] oh my god, sorry for being so late ;) [16:36] i will try to install now 14.04 and try your advice [16:36] ok [16:37] i ll be back if i don't make it work [16:37] :) [16:37] thanks again and bye [16:37] if you have more troubles we're here, if I'm not, more capable people will help you anyway, but I use to be this hour [16:37] bye suncokret [16:37] bye [16:37] o/ [16:39] I still can't find a cheap, good graphics card for my comp. The fact that PCI is so rare as opposed to PCIe is what is driving up the prices to higher levels. [16:40] UltimaKR_: have you checked on ebay and amazon ? [16:41] phillw: That's where I am looking. Aside from the fact that people can't differentiate between the two types (making searching harder), supply and demand is making it more expensive except for cards up to 128 MB...do you think that is enough? [16:44] I would have thought so, but I'm not a gamer. ask on http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 for what people have found works. [16:45] phillw: Well like I said, it won't be intense gaming since it is more of a secondary computer. This laptop has hardcore gaming covered :D [16:53] Thanks a lot for everything! Going to try and pick one now! [18:43] hi, is rafael here? [18:44] yup [18:44] i installed 14.04 [18:44] and [18:44] there are themes in /usr/share/themes [18:44] but [18:44] there is no ~/home/.themes [18:45] don't exist [18:45] i only find [18:45] \home\.config\lxsession\Lubuntu\desktop.conf [18:45] i think that is ini file for theme and colors? [18:45] so [18:45] that's because you didn't install themes [18:45] sudo ln -s ~/.themes /root/.themes [18:45] don't work [18:45] :) [18:46] i didn't install [18:46] i use themes which sistem already have [18:46] create it :) [18:46] i must install it [18:46] or i can just copy it from [18:47] no, just create that folder [18:47] from /usr/share/themes [18:47] and then use the command [18:47] create folder and then use sudo ln -s ~/.themes /root/.themes [18:47] ? [18:48] yes [18:48] i don't need to install themes? [18:49] if you want you can install gnome-themes-standard, or light-themes, or whatever you like [18:49] that folder I told you is for your downloaded themes [18:49] i don't understand if i don't install themes [18:49] and only create that folder [18:49] how will system use my colors in root? [18:49] :) [18:50] the colours are stored in a file called .gtk-2.0 (or something like that) [18:50] and your system should look into it, or maybe not [18:51] :) [18:51] and what is \home\.config\lxsession\Lubuntu\desktop.conf [18:51] ? [18:51] a configuration file for your Lubuntu session. better if not touched ;) [18:53] in that file i find under [GTK] this [18:53] sNet/ThemeName=Crux [18:54] and under sGtk/ColorScheme is parameters for my color scheme [18:54] can i use this file for root? [18:55] I'm not sure, because it's a per-user configuration , but if Crux is installed globally, your synaptic will look better [18:56] i go to try this on 14.04 now [18:56] i will try to create folder .themes [18:57] and use your command [18:57] ? [18:57] give a try :) [18:57] just this? [18:57] it's all we can do with themes [18:58] but how this work on 13.04? [18:58] there root accept my colors [18:58] it must work the same work than 14.04 [18:59] i go to try and i will come [19:07] i tried and it don't work :) [19:08] which version of lubuntu you ue? [19:08] use? [19:09] 14.04 [19:10] so i selected theme crux (i didn't need to install it) and change my colors for background [19:10] can you try to do same, and then run synaptic [19:10] right [19:10] wait... [19:10] and you will see that it not use your theme and colors [19:11] biotoxic9 [19:12] toxic [19:13] sorry, wrong window :) [19:13] suncokret, yes, you're right, synaptic doesn't get the right colours or themes [19:13] this may be a bug [19:13] that bug is from 13.10 [19:13] that's why i use 13.04 [19:14] it was a colorization bug, but it was fixed [19:14] yes, i know [19:14] this may be another thing [19:14] that colorization bug was for all system [19:14] and this is only for root [19:14] programs [19:14] :) [19:15] can you find what is problem? [19:15] I need to investigate a bit [19:15] I'll try to find a solution and tell everybody :D [19:15] this is bug for sure [19:15] maybe, yes [19:16] and i don't know why nobody didn't say about it [19:16] because it was start in 13.10 [19:16] Hello - quick question. I run lubuntu and access it mainly through ssh - now lubuntu crashed and I have to restart it, without rebooting the machine (some background processes are running, which I don't want to loose) - is there a way to do this via ssh? I haven't found something w/ google and alas man-pages for lxsession/lxde don't seem to exist [19:17] Ah, daemon processes, not background - sorry [19:17] suncokret, noted that bug, thank you [19:17] yes [19:18] probably nobody didn't see that, because most themes have white background [19:18] but i never don't use white window and menu background, because it is very bad for eyes [19:18] so this really annoy me [19:19] so please if you can, solve this [19:19] :) [19:19] I understand you, we'll try to fix it [19:19] how much people work on Lubuntu? [19:20] officially? almost 50 [19:20] nice number [19:20] collaborating without being members of any team, I don't know :) [19:20] New install of 14.04 Can't get rid of a persistent screen lock. It's not enabled in xscreensaver, and I disabled it in Users/Groups. What else is there? [19:21] yes, light locker is giving me problems too, but I think there's a solution in AskUbuntu [19:21] so how i will know when you fix problem, i should come here every few days or what? :) [19:22] jxshxx, I gave up and remove light-locker and installed xscreensaver instead [19:23] bollo: That's what I did, though I did it from the software center. Is there something left that didn't get wiped? [19:23] jxshxx, though on some of my other units it works fine [19:24] suncokret, yes, come in a few days and we'll see [19:24] bollo: Should I try removing via terminal? [19:24]