[12:00] <popey> is it meeting o'clock?
[12:01] <Destine> yes
[12:01] <rickspencer3> o/
[12:01] <rickspencer3> I'm all set
[12:01] <rickspencer3> is there a chair for the meeting?
[12:02] <popey> #startmeeting Membership Board meeting
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[12:02] <popey> there we go.
[12:02] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards#A12:00
[12:02] <popey> valentinovd appears to be the only one on the list for today.
[12:02] <popey> ..and not here...
[12:02] <popey> lets give them a few mins.
[12:03] <jared> Evening all
[12:03] <rickspencer3> hi jared
[12:03] <popey> hi jared
[12:04] <jared> Nice to see some new faces
[12:05] <elfy> or old faces in new places :)
[12:05] <jared> Hah, yeah well there is that
[12:05] <popey> oi! ☻
[12:05] <elfy> :)
[12:06] <Destine> so where is this valentinovd?
[12:07] <jared> belkinsa just pointed out a little while ago the wiki says the Wednesday the 17th of July is the next meeting
[12:07] <jared> Which could prove confusing
[12:07] <popey> oh jeez.
[12:08] <rickspencer3> oopsie
[12:09] <popey> Well, it's in the fridge calendar as today, so that's unfortunate.
[12:09] <popey> Will any of you be around at the same time tomorrow? Perhaps we could have a quick meeting then as we only have one person on the list?
[12:09] <rickspencer3> popey, well today is Wednesday, so it was a small typo on the wiki, I guess
[12:09] <popey> yes
[12:10] <jared> I personally won't be but happy for it to proceed if the person is available.
[12:10] <rickspencer3> popey, I propose we simply push until the next scheduled meeting
[12:10] <popey> ok, thats fine by me.
[12:10] <rickspencer3> that said, I'm happy to meet again if asked
[12:10] <elfy> actually it's not just a typo - the link to the world clock is for tomorrow as well - jfyi
[12:10] <popey> I'll email the individual and let them know
[12:10] <popey> hows that?
[12:10] <rickspencer3> elfy, but *today* is Wednesday, and tomorrow is the 17th
[12:10] <rickspencer3> :/
[12:11] <elfy> yea - click the link with the date in the membership wiki :)
[12:11] <rickspencer3> I am def. not available tomorrow, btw
[12:11] <popey> To be fair, this gives valentinovd more time to get their wiki page in order.
[12:11] <popey> ok, so lets push to next meeting then.
[12:11] <jared> While we're all here if anyone wants to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards/SittingMembers in their spare time now we have a reshuffle that would be good
[12:11] <popey> I'll update / fix the wiki
[12:11]  * elfy is just pointing it out :)
[12:11] <rickspencer3> thanks popey
[12:11] <popey> thanks elfy
[12:12] <popey> So anything else, other than email valentinovd and fix the wiki?
[12:13] <jared>  Welcome to all the new board members is all I wanted to do
[12:13] <rickspencer3> thanks jared :)
[12:13] <popey> Indeed, thanks jared
[12:13] <popey> Ok, lets wrap then. Hope next month is more successful! :D
[12:13] <popey> #endmeeting
[12:13] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Jul 16 12:13:37 2014 UTC.
[12:13] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-07-16-12.02.moin.txt
[12:13] <rickspencer3> thanks elfy, and popey too
[12:18] <popey> wiki fixed
[18:01] <Pici> Anyone here?
[18:02] <rww-> o/
[18:04] <IdleOne> here
[18:07] <Pici> Tm_T, hggdh, AlanBell: around?
[18:09] <Pici> rww-: I don't see a wiki page for you :/
[18:10] <rww-> Pici: I don't have a wiki page, because I think they're silly :P
[18:10] <IdleOne> Does rww even need to re-apply for membership seeing how he was already a member?
[18:11] <rww-> tl;dr of non-existant wikipage: I op lots of channels. When I'm not doing that I'm a co-lead of a LoCo, and recently became a moderator on reddit's ubuntu subreddit. But most of my contribution is snark on IRC.
[18:11] <IdleOne> I'm not sure what the policy is with this type of situation
[18:11] <rww-> IdleOne: I figured I'd make it interesting and use the IRC Membership process
[18:13] <rww-> besides which, part of the point of reviewing applicants is to see if they do enough Ubuntu stuff to qualify, and I'm interested in the answer to that
[18:13] <IdleOne> rww-: right, but I would think in a case like this there would be a different process. more of a rubber stamp thing because you left in good standing afaik.
[18:14] <IdleOne> I just asked the other Regional Membership Board members what the policy is if any.
[18:14] <Pici> rww-: I have no doubt in my mind that you do great work for Ubuntu.
[18:14] <Pici> IdleOne: thanks
[18:15] <IdleOne> We might need to ask the CC also what they think. IMPO I know no reason why you wouldn't just get your membership status back
[18:16] <elfy> as far as Ubuntu Membership is concerned - this member of the Forum Council - who give membership to forum users - would be inclined to just readding someone
[18:17] <IdleOne> Assuming there is no reason for them not to be added again, which I believe there are none in this case.
[18:17] <elfy> if that is what the discussion is - and as far as I am aware someone expiring from Ubuntu Membership just asks to be a member again assuming they've not been deactivated
[18:17] <Pici> Well, it is sort of a moot point, as we don't have quorum to action that.
[18:17] <elfy> IdleOne: yep
[18:18]  * elfy disappears into the shadow again 
[18:18] <Pici> rww-: I thought you deactivated yourself.
[18:18] <IdleOne> elfy: in rww's case he voluntarily deactivated
[18:18] <rww-> I removed my group membership, if I recall correctly.
[18:18] <rww-> The LP account is still active.
[18:18] <IdleOne> right, you deactivated you Ubuntu membership
[18:19] <IdleOne> your*
[18:19] <elfy> IdleOne: I assumed as much - would be a simple get it back with the FC assuming all was as before
[18:19] <IdleOne> agreed
[18:19] <rww-> Pici: if that seems like a reasonable path, you could get quorum over email, I guess
[18:19] <Pici> rww-: I think I will do that.
[18:19] <IdleOne> +1
[18:20] <Pici> I personally don't see an issue with you being reinstated.
[18:21] <IdleOne> I think we all agree. 3 board members from 3 councils
[18:21] <elfy> :)
[18:21] <IdleOne> seems to me if you want to make it official by doing an email vote that is fine.
[18:22] <rww-> up to Pici, I'm fine with whatever
[18:23] <Pici> rww-: I'll put together an email in a few and hopefully get the other IRCCers blessing on it.
[18:23]  * rww- nods
[18:24] <IdleOne> rww-: how long were you "gone" ?
[18:24] <rww-> IdleOne: no idea
[18:24] <IdleOne> more or less
[18:24] <rww-> i might have it on my timeline document at home, I'll check
[18:24] <Pici> rww-: it could be on your wiki page!
[18:24] <IdleOne> haha
[18:24] <elfy> lol
[18:25] <rww-> Pici: In more important topics, there is actually stuff y'all have to review (#ubuntu-ops-team might be up for it, there's an open bug, and factoid massacre is due for review), so we should probably try for quorum next month :P
[18:25] <rww-> assuming what's on the wikipage agenda is accurate right now. I don't know if it is.
[18:25] <rww-> (it thinks it's March right now, so...)
[18:26] <Pici> We did a factoid massacre recently actually (or at least somewhat recently)
[18:26] <Pici> Sorry this isn't an extremely formal meeting, we're a bit low on IRCCers and I'm multitasking.
[18:26] <rww-> right, I think we were supposed to review the effectiveness of that after the fact
[18:27] <Pici> right
[18:27] <rww-> in general, I believe factoid massacre wasn't supposed to be the be-all-and-end-all of "make the IRC Team less broken", but IRC team has been plodding along recently so that doesn't really bother me
[18:27] <Pici> It wasn't directly related to it.
[18:27]  * rww- nods
[18:28] <IdleOne> Pici: if you don't mind cc'ing ubuntu-membership-boards@lists.ubuntu.com on this and maybe the CC also?
[18:29] <elfy> not sure we *need* to know unless there's an issue
[18:29] <elfy> with my other hat on
[18:29] <IdleOne> Not trying to take anything away from the IRCC. The way I see it rww applied thorugh the IRCC so it should be your decision but I just would like to try and keep the policy uniform across boards
[18:29] <Pici> IdleOne: Do you mind if I get the approval of the other IRCCers first?
[18:30] <Pici> Not that I think it will be an issue, I'd just like to keep the noise to a minimum.
[18:30] <IdleOne> Pici: fine by me
[18:42] <IdleOne> I forget elfy wears a lot of hats
[18:42] <IdleOne> :)
[18:42] <elfy> ha ha ha