| * popey hugs ali1234 | 01:11 | |
| ali1234 | :) | 01:11 |
|---|---|---|
| popey | I love it, didnt expect that. | 01:11 |
| * popey goes to bed, dreaming of riding into conflict on his battlecat | 01:12 | |
| mapps | urgh | 05:33 |
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| MooDoo | morning all | 06:04 |
| Myrtti | moin | 06:06 |
| mapps | hey | 06:07 |
| Myrtti | lappy didnt boot nicely :-( | 06:07 |
| Myrtti | missed the standup | 06:07 |
| MooDoo | anyone want to see popey and his new pet? - http://youtu.be/bMhoyyZRO5I | 06:58 |
| Myrtti | brilliant | 07:07 |
| MooDoo | :) | 07:08 |
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| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 07:32 |
| MooDoo | morning brobostigon | 07:32 |
| brobostigon | morning MooDoo | 07:33 |
| MooDoo | brobostigon: just beating you on the irc stats page :D | 07:33 |
| brobostigon | :) | 07:33 |
| brobostigon | would it be possible, on a watch, for you to put some much pressure on the springbar holding the strap, that the springbar just pops out? | 07:35 |
| MooDoo | only if it's a weak spring bar or not properly seated i guess | 07:36 |
| brobostigon | well exactly that happened to me last night, | 07:37 |
| SuperMatt | then it is possible | 07:37 |
| SuperMatt | what kind of mind games are you playing with us? | 07:37 |
| brobostigon | the strap that came with my pebble, i managed to get the strap and springbar back in properly, i think. | 07:38 |
| ali1234 | whats a springbar? | 07:42 |
| MooDoo | ali1234: think it's the little bar that connects the strap to the watch | 07:42 |
| brobostigon | yep. | 07:43 |
| MooDoo | ali1234: normally they have two springy ends you need to push in to connect them to the watch, if they are not seated properly they spring out | 07:43 |
| MooDoo | http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc18/gaijinnv/Marathon22MMSpringBars.jpg | 07:44 |
| ali1234 | i see | 07:44 |
| brobostigon | looks like i have seated it back in properly. | 07:45 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Apollo 11 Day! :-D | 08:09 |
| MooDoo | morning JamesTait | 08:10 |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: pic.twitter.com/ysjxPVbEC2 | 08:11 |
| JamesTait | MooDoo, well look at that! :-D | 08:13 |
| MooDoo | thought you might like that | 08:13 |
| JamesTait | There was something about some dirty great weapon of mass destruction as well, but I thought I'd accentuate the positive.... | 08:17 |
| foobarry | why would pixel lock and phase be greyed out on my monitor? | 08:19 |
| foobarry | they are the ones i want to tweak | 08:19 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 08:33 |
| popey | Mng | 08:36 |
| MooDoo | howdy bigcalm popey | 08:38 |
| MooDoo | popey: how's your firebreathing cat taming going? ;) | 08:39 |
| popey | :D | 08:41 |
| foobarry | rebooted with latest kernel on 12.04 (3.11.23) and no X windows :( | 08:52 |
| foobarry | this is like the old days | 08:52 |
| foobarry | nvidia driver issues i presume | 08:52 |
| foobarry | can i run dpkg-reconfigure on a particular package to get nvidia to reconfig? | 08:54 |
| foobarry | (or am i missing a package?) | 08:54 |
| popey | where did you get nvidia driver from? | 08:56 |
| popey | oh, is this 12.04 or is it really elementary or mint? | 08:56 |
| foobarry | i've just done dpkg-reconfigre nvidia-331-updates | 08:56 |
| foobarry | hoping it works | 08:56 |
| foobarry | repos | 08:56 |
| foobarry | the weird thing is that 3.11.0.24 looks installed but not in grub list | 08:57 |
| foobarry | odd | 08:57 |
| foobarry | about to reboot | 08:57 |
| foobarry | :( still broke | 08:59 |
| foobarry | have nvidia-common, nvidia-settings and nvidia-331-updates | 08:59 |
| foobarry | from standard ubuntu universe | 08:59 |
| foobarry | on 12.03 | 08:59 |
| foobarry | .4 | 08:59 |
| popey | 3.11.0.24 is a saucy kernel | 09:00 |
| foobarry | do i need to install different kernel? | 09:01 |
| popey | well, i would expect 14.04 to have 3.13, not 3.11 | 09:02 |
| popey | which shouldn't need you to do anything, it should already be there | 09:02 |
| popey | but as you didn't answer my question, I'm assuming this is elementary or mint, and not actually ubuntu | 09:02 |
| foobarry | elementary, runnign on 12.04 | 09:04 |
| popey | so I would be looking at why I'm running a 12.04 based system with a 13.10 kernel | 09:04 |
| popey | i.e. dpkg -l linux-image* and see what kernels you have | 09:04 |
| foobarry | i have generic-lts-saucy | 09:04 |
| popey | ok, cool. | 09:05 |
| bigcalm | ? | 09:05 |
| popey | do you have the xorg package to go with that? | 09:05 |
| bigcalm | Saucy wasn't an LTS | 09:05 |
| popey | correct | 09:05 |
| bigcalm | Odd package name | 09:05 |
| popey | no | 09:05 |
| foobarry | its cos i'm running LTS | 09:05 |
| popey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack | 09:05 |
| popey | sorry, i said 14.04 earlier, I looked at the wrong place | 09:06 |
| foobarry | gonna try raring , thanks. i hadn't realised i needed to do that | 09:06 |
| foobarry | is there a generic-lts-latest? | 09:06 |
| foobarry | type pacakge | 09:06 |
| bigcalm | I see | 09:06 |
| * bigcalm goes back to sleep | 09:06 | |
| foobarry | which xorg package pls popey ? | 09:06 |
| popey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack ☻ | 09:07 |
| popey | Anyone wishing to opt into the hardware enablement stack for Precise may do so by installing the linux-generic-lts-<release> and xserver-xorg-lts-<release> packages. For example to install the Quantal hardware enablement packages in Precise, please run the following command: | 09:08 |
| popey | sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-raring xserver-xorg-lts-raring libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-raring | 09:08 |
| MartijnV1S | isn't lts-enablement being deprecated for 12.04? | 09:08 |
| popey | looks like the badger | 09:08 |
| MartijnV1S | in favor of actually running 14.04 | 09:08 |
| popey | no | 09:08 |
| foobarry | thanks. | 09:08 |
| MartijnV1S | I thought I read that somewhere | 09:08 |
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| popey | well, if by that you mean, "dont run 12.04" then no | 09:08 |
| popey | it may be that there's no more enablement packs, sure | 09:09 |
| popey | (I may have misunderstood what you said) :D | 09:09 |
| MartijnVdS | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2014-July/000186.html | 09:09 |
| MartijnVdS | that :) | 09:09 |
| MartijnVdS | On August 7, 2014, the 5th | 09:09 |
| MartijnVdS | and final point release for 12.04 (ie. 12.04.5) will deliver the kernel | 09:09 |
| MartijnVdS | and graphics stack derived from 14.04. At that time, security updates | 09:09 |
| MartijnVdS | and bug fixes for older hardware enablement stacks will no longer be | 09:09 |
| MartijnVdS | provided. | 09:09 |
| Myrtti | ooh | 09:10 |
| Myrtti | I broke my lts 1204 today too | 09:10 |
| Myrtti | with newest.kernel | 09:10 |
| Myrtti | popey: thanks will have a look | 09:10 |
| foobarry | lots of xserver-xorg getting removed | 09:11 |
| foobarry | looks more scary when in vty | 09:11 |
| popey | nice | 09:11 |
| Myrtti | MartijnVdS: yeah had to enable the hardware support again, and logging in in tty says mine is supported until 2017 | 09:12 |
| MartijnVdS | I finally shut down my last 10.04 machine | 09:12 |
| MartijnVdS | it couldn't be upgraded because of some compiler flag added in 10.10 | 09:13 |
| MooDoo | I'm thining of rebuilding my centos server for ubuntu! | 09:13 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ | 09:13 |
| popey | MooDoo: did you say you're not coming to the RAT? | 09:13 |
| MooDoo | popey: yes, i don't think i'll be able to make it, it's the week I change jobs...so need to work on that and family a bit. | 09:14 |
| popey | aww | 09:14 |
| popey | oh, changing jobs!? | 09:14 |
| popey | congrats | 09:14 |
| MooDoo | popey: i've put my ticket in a secrey place so when I find it, it's going to who ever wants it. | 09:15 |
| MooDoo | popey: thanks :D | 09:15 |
| popey | where you off to? | 09:15 |
| MooDoo | sys admin for the health store, they are a wholesaler for health products, you know the type they sell in holland and barratt! | 09:15 |
| popey | gotcha | 09:16 |
| MooDoo | canonical kept turning me down ;) lol | 09:16 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: They sell health products here? | 09:17 |
| MooDoo | MartijnVdS: no lol | 09:17 |
| popey | They kept turning me down too ☻ | 09:19 |
| popey | I think I applied for 4 jobs before being offered one. | 09:19 |
| Laney | "Air Steward on Canonical One" | 09:21 |
| MooDoo | popey: as soon as they advertise tea boy for the Product Strategy team @ canonical, I'm applying :) | 09:22 |
| MooDoo | Laney: I'm too tall for that lol | 09:22 |
| Laney | pilot? | 09:23 |
| NET||abuse | just looking at the raspberry pi b+, anyone know where to get the 4pin audio video jack cable premade? | 09:23 |
| Laney | just looked up where the health shop is - you could sneak in a few flights in your lunch break ;-) | 09:23 |
| MooDoo | Laney: I could do that, I've played microsoft flight sim, i'm qualified ;) | 09:23 |
| MooDoo | Laney: it's bulwell | 09:23 |
| Laney | ya, next to hucknall aerodrome | 09:24 |
| MooDoo | :) | 09:24 |
| popey | I think Canonical One only has Stweardesses | 09:24 |
| popey | I think it's some kind of positive discrimination thing ㋛ | 09:24 |
| MooDoo | popey: I've been to rocky horror, I can pull off a skirt ;) | 09:24 |
| popey | hah | 09:24 |
| popey | Ahem. | 09:24 |
| MooDoo | lol | 09:24 |
| foobarry | :-Z | 09:32 |
| foobarry | ok weird. nvidia was working all along, its because i'd changed monitor | 09:46 |
| foobarry | "no screens found" | 09:46 |
| foobarry | move back to old monitor and it works | 09:46 |
| foobarry | although i was working ok with new monitor until reboot | 09:46 |
| popey | heh | 09:53 |
| MartijnVdS | it probably looked for a specific model/serial number | 09:53 |
| foobarry | the computers have won for today | 09:54 |
| MartijnVdS | It doesn't if you unplug a monitor (and plug in a new one) while everything is running | 09:54 |
| foobarry | i have work to do | 09:54 |
| MartijnVdS | but it DOES on startup | 09:54 |
| foobarry | somehow elementary got borken when xserver was instaleld | 09:54 |
| foobarry | MartijnVdS: how am i supposed to switch screens? | 10:02 |
| foobarry | s/screens/monitors/ | 10:03 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: with a normal graphics card and no xorg.conf, just switch them | 10:04 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: with nvidia? no idea. | 10:04 |
| foobarry | ah, i had a .config/monitors.xml | 10:06 |
| Myrtti | popey, foobarry | 10:13 |
| Myrtti | I could kiss you both | 10:13 |
| Myrtti | thank you | 10:13 |
| foobarry | Myrtti: what did i do? | 10:13 |
| popey | huh | 10:13 |
| Myrtti | you brought your lts graphics problems out | 10:14 |
| foobarry | somehow upgrading xserver removed gala window manager :S | 10:14 |
| foobarry | spent 2 hrs fixing my problems today | 10:14 |
| Myrtti | I tried to get the hardware support extended few days back, thought I rebooted the machine a few times and it worked, and then uninstalled alsa-hda-dkms yesterday, and rebooted this morning, and didn't get past Plymouth | 10:16 |
| ali1234 | why do people have trouble with graphics? | 10:16 |
| ali1234 | i haven't seen a black screen since about 2008 | 10:16 |
| Myrtti | I couldn't work the google up to tell me what to do and I was already doing backups to install LTS 1404 on this against my better judgement | 10:17 |
| Myrtti | it's a Dell Latitude E6430 with 1204 LTS preinstalled so I really don't want to reinstall anything on it since I didn't do the initial installing myself and I don't know what new stuff the IT dept did to it between getting it from Dell and giving it to me | 10:18 |
| ali1234 | sounds like a damn good reason to wipe it and reinstall to me | 10:19 |
| Myrtti | well I don't also know what Dell has done to it before shipping it out, either | 10:19 |
| MooDoo | Myrtti: everything should just work with dell, I have a E6510 and everything works, the only thing I had to tweak was the wifi file as my wifi LED was blicnking all the time :D | 10:19 |
| MooDoo | well I say that, as in, my laptop is ok :) | 10:20 |
| Myrtti | but anyway | 10:20 |
| Seeker` | argh, graphics is a PITA | 10:20 |
| Myrtti | now using popeys instructions installing some packages it works again | 10:20 |
| Myrtti | and I don't have to reinstall anything | 10:21 |
| Seeker` | my mythtv box always resets to 720x576 when I turn my TV on again | 10:21 |
| ali1234 | Seeker`: make a VGA2SCART | 10:21 |
| Seeker` | ali1234: wut? | 10:21 |
| Seeker` | no | 10:21 |
| Seeker` | HDMI | 10:21 |
| ali1234 | lol, you have HDMI and it goes to 576? | 10:21 |
| ali1234 | that's unpossible | 10:21 |
| Seeker` | yes | 10:21 |
| Seeker` | pfft | 10:21 |
| Seeker` | no it isn't | 10:21 |
| ali1234 | what are you people doing to your poor computers... | 10:22 |
| Seeker` | I can't *stop* it going to 576 | 10:22 |
| Seeker` | it just ignores me. Even when the nvidia driver says it has chosen 1920x1080 in xorg.0.log it *still* chooses 576 | 10:22 |
| MartijnVdS | it's nvidia day 8-) | 10:23 |
| ali1234 | your TV is sending bad modes | 10:23 |
| ali1234 | tell nvidia to ignore it | 10:23 |
| Seeker` | ali1234: nope. It reports that it supports 1920x1080 | 10:23 |
| Seeker` | I've told it to ignore EDID. It then decides that 800x600 is the right thing to do | 10:23 |
| ali1234 | yes. you must tell it the modes manually | 10:23 |
| Seeker` | I did | 10:23 |
| Seeker` | it used to work fine, until my HDD died and I had to reinstall, about a year ago | 10:24 |
| Seeker` | new install, got this weird behaviour | 10:24 |
| Seeker` | it's not the monitor | 10:24 |
| diddledan_ | nveeevia day? | 10:27 |
| diddledan_ | I can't speel | 10:27 |
| diddledan_ | nveedia day? | 10:27 |
| foobarry | the evil monitors.xml as the culprit for me and i never even noticed it before | 10:35 |
| foobarry | think it comes when you have 2 monitors | 10:35 |
| foobarry | what's the latest nvidia driver anyway? | 10:36 |
| foobarry | fromt he repos | 10:36 |
| Myrtti | 331 I think | 10:37 |
| popey | i have had a corrupt monitors.xml before | 10:41 |
| popey | just deleted it and started again | 10:41 |
| Myrtti | I'm so incredibly happy I fixed this problem | 10:41 |
| foobarry | eww. getting screen corruption | 10:42 |
| foobarry | in irssi | 10:42 |
| Myrtti | foobarry, popey: seriously, do you have paypal or something, I owe you a drink | 10:42 |
| foobarry | i don't think i actually did anything besides break my system and cry on irc | 10:43 |
| popey | haha | 10:43 |
| Myrtti | foobarry: but you expressed your problem in a way I couldn't do using my phone to IRC with | 10:43 |
| Myrtti | in words that made popey find a solution for it that I could understand | 10:44 |
| foobarry | Myrtti: you need to learn to receive help freely, as you freely give so much help on freenode :D | 10:44 |
| foobarry | where you have helped me many times before | 10:44 |
| Myrtti | midwifery is a valuable ... what's the word | 10:44 |
| Myrtti | occupation | 10:44 |
| Myrtti | foobarry: yeah but this was actually doing my head in | 10:44 |
| popey | i would say vocation | 10:45 |
| foobarry | which packages did you install? i'm on lts-kernel-trusty now | 10:45 |
| Myrtti | and it ruined my morning as I couldn't join the daily standup Hangout | 10:45 |
| popey | not occupation | 10:45 |
| MooDoo | commodity | 10:45 |
| Seeker` | profession? | 10:46 |
| Myrtti | that's the word | 10:47 |
| popey | \o/ | 10:47 |
| foobarry | whats the diff between nvidia-331 and nvidia-331-updates? | 10:48 |
| awilkins_ | -updates has updates to the kernel shims | 10:48 |
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| Myrtti | the whats | 10:49 |
| awilkins | It's a binary driver ; it's provided with an open source adapter that links it to the kernel | 10:49 |
| awilkins | That's the "shim" | 10:49 |
| awilkins | (I'm not sure what terms the nvidia team use but that's how I think of it) | 10:50 |
| awilkins | Does seem to be the accepted term from googling it | 10:50 |
| foobarry | so...kde5 anyone? | 10:51 |
| popey | http://tumbleweed.popey.com/ | 10:52 |
| popey | I think you mean Plasma 5. | 10:53 |
| popey | They've started getting a bit uppity with people using the wrong terms. | 10:53 |
| foobarry | KDE's plasma 5... | 10:53 |
| MooDoo | KDE *shiver* | 10:54 |
| foobarry | "Nepomuk is gone, Baloo is here" | 10:54 |
| MooDoo | I shouldn't say that seeing as i've not used it in years | 10:54 |
| foobarry | i still wear teh tshirt though | 10:55 |
| foobarry | kubuntu kogs | 10:55 |
| foobarry | i heard on UUPC that aseigo gave 200k of his own $$ to the tablet project, ..where did he get all that cash? | 10:58 |
| popey | I am not 100% convinced it was $200K of his own cash | 10:59 |
| popey | he may well have been measuring time working on the project, I don't know | 10:59 |
| popey | he lives in Switzerland, he can't be badly off ☻ | 11:00 |
| MooDoo | wow spotify moving their servers to Ubuntu, that's 5000 ish of them :D | 11:29 |
| Myrtti | nice | 11:30 |
| MooDoo | http://raphaelhertzog.com/2014/07/16/spotify-migrates-5000-servers-from-debian-to-ubuntu/ | 11:31 |
| Myrtti | oh. | 11:34 |
| awilkins | Wouldn't it just be super for everyone if Debian and Ubuntu got together and made LTS together? | 11:35 |
| awilkins | That would address the complaint reflected on that page that Ubuntu only LTS-es the main repo | 11:35 |
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| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| funkyHat | awilkins: it wouldn't, because Debian's LTS only covers a subset of packages too. | 11:53 |
| popey | discovered http://itch.io/ today | 12:35 |
| popey | http://itch.io/games/platform-linux specifically | 12:35 |
| popey | http://itch.io/games/platform-linux/price-free | 12:35 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| foobarry | i work with strange people. | 13:53 |
| foobarry | bought a box of lollies. not many takers | 13:53 |
| MooDoo | nutters | 13:56 |
| foobarry | aaaand now i have dropped lolly on my white shirt | 13:57 |
| foobarry | they made me feel weird for offering lollies on hottest day of year | 13:58 |
| foobarry | they are the weird ones | 13:58 |
| foobarry | its like when i bought cakes | 13:58 |
| popey | waaaat | 13:58 |
| daftykins | D: | 13:58 |
| popey | when I worked in an office if you went out and bought a box of lollies they'd be gone in seconds | 13:59 |
| foobarry | you'd think so | 13:59 |
| foobarry | no rhyme or reason | 13:59 |
| MooDoo | they would here where i am currently | 13:59 |
| foobarry | just waved away naaah i'm ok | 13:59 |
| popey | are they the kind that feel they then owe you? | 14:00 |
| foobarry | no | 14:01 |
| foobarry | some are not even in my team | 14:01 |
| foobarry | i think....gasp....shudder...they miht not like lollies and cakes | 14:01 |
| foobarry | 1 is vegan, 1 is milk allergy/intolerant, that leaves others | 14:02 |
| daftykins | defective snackers | 14:04 |
| foobarry | i made a mistake | 14:05 |
| foobarry | forgot to also buy jelly snakes and chocolate | 14:05 |
| foobarry | for my drawer of destiny | 14:05 |
| foobarry | ebuyer annual revenue is in the 100s of millions :S | 14:06 |
| foobarry | must be making tidy profit | 14:06 |
| daftykins | they're pretty good, shame that after over 4 website redesigns and constant pestering they still refuse to solve automatic VAT deduction for channel islanders | 14:09 |
| foobarry | i have memories of them selling really shoddy gear in the 2000s | 14:10 |
| foobarry | very much B grade stock, much of it broken | 14:10 |
| daftykins | :S | 14:10 |
| foobarry | an acquaintance bought a pc from parts. every part was broken | 14:10 |
| daftykins | wow | 14:10 |
| foobarry | RAM=bad, mobo=bad, etc ,etc | 14:10 |
| popey | daftykins: create a company account, then you don't see VAT listed | 14:11 |
| daftykins | the display of VAT is easily done from the top menu | 14:11 |
| daftykins | no problem there | 14:11 |
| daftykins | but i have to pay it, then ask for it back | 14:11 |
| popey | ah | 14:11 |
| diddledan_ | foobarry, I'll take a lolly | 14:30 |
| foobarry | i'll sftp it | 14:30 |
| diddledan_ | thankya | 14:30 |
| daftykins | i should've picked up ice cream at the supermarket >_< | 14:31 |
| daftykins | i had qualms of eating more sensibly but... it's so hot | 14:32 |
| Myrtti | we bought Solero Mojito lollies few weeks ago | 14:32 |
| Myrtti | such a disappointment | 14:32 |
| daftykins | that sounds pretty... erk | 14:33 |
| Myrtti | it said it had alcohol, but 0.02% doesn't taste much... | 14:33 |
| daftykins | i don't like desserts to be ruined by booze | 14:34 |
| foobarry | tiramisu? | 14:34 |
| Myrtti | daftykins: well it didn't have booze other than for marketing reasons :-| | 14:35 |
| Myrtti | I didn't taste the rum at all | 14:35 |
| popey | what a busy day! | 14:40 |
| popey | I've not even had one cup of tea or coffee yet! | 14:40 |
| * foobarry is drawing flowcharst | 14:40 | |
| daftykins | i've bought some food and done some washing | 14:41 |
| daftykins | ^_^ | 14:41 |
| popey | i went outside and video'ed an airbus a380 going over the house | 14:43 |
| daftykins | hehe | 14:44 |
| daftykins | very fancy | 14:44 |
| popey | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SwQfn-TSEc | 14:47 |
| popey | surprisingly quiet | 14:47 |
| daftykins | omw | 15:01 |
| daftykins | it looks kinda frightening, something so large banking like tht :) | 15:01 |
| Myrtti | jesus christ | 15:02 |
| Myrtti | indeed | 15:02 |
| popey | the a380 and the 787 both do ridiculous manouvers at air shows | 15:02 |
| popey | the take off looks near vertical | 15:02 |
| popey | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZRKm6PG918 | 15:02 |
| popey | check out the take off on that | 15:02 |
| popey | bear in mind it has no seats, cargo or passengers on board | 15:03 |
| daftykins | :D | 15:03 |
| popey | the a380 does the same, its bonkers | 15:03 |
| daftykins | apparently our government owned airline ordered a plane without realising that you have to specify seats separately :> | 15:04 |
| Myrtti | jebus | 15:05 |
| Myrtti | I feel like throwing up looking at that | 15:05 |
| Dave2 | When I was camping at Download we had the world's biggest plane taking off over us. That was fun. | 15:06 |
| diplo | Guys if I buy a identical replacement drive for a laptop which is running windows 8.1 and dd the drive can I just dd it straight back onto new one without any issues ? | 15:06 |
| DJones | daftykins: That sounds as bad as the French rail company that ordered 2000 new trains costing £12.1Bn and then found that they were too wide to fit in over 1000 stations | 15:06 |
| Dave2 | (Antinov 225) | 15:06 |
| Dave2 | Antonov, even | 15:06 |
| mgdm | diplo: I've done it a couple of times in the past, yeah | 15:06 |
| mgdm | diplo: (though that was upgrading to a bigger drive) | 15:07 |
| daftykins | diplo it's all about clonezilla | 15:07 |
| diplo | yeah thought so.. this has some bad sectors and I very much doubt they've made a back up disk of the orginal | 15:07 |
| Myrtti | I might have read Crichton's Airframe too many times | 15:07 |
| diplo | Just have a restore partition | 15:07 |
| mgdm | Myrtti: oh yes, I've read that a couple of times too | 15:07 |
| diplo | daftykins, I was debating clonezilla as well, used it in the past... | 15:07 |
| mgdm | diplo: dd_rescue might be useful | 15:07 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/isbwg5trnc08laf/IMG_20140715_172310.jpg | 15:08 |
| daftykins | cloned a mates 40GB SSD to his new 256GB one in 3.5 minutes last night | 15:08 |
| diplo | Will give them both a go, just don't know what affect the bad sectors will have | 15:09 |
| daftykins | how many are there? | 15:09 |
| diplo | Just seeing errors under a live disk, the machine crashes so can't run any checks on the actual disk currently | 15:10 |
| diplo | Crashes if I try to run any windows stuff | 15:10 |
| daftykins | SMART info would say though | 15:10 |
| diplo | God how do people use Windows 8, god awful! | 15:10 |
| diplo | yeah did debate about apt-getting it, not installed on the live cd I have in there | 15:10 |
| daftykins | with a start menu replacement, but even then... painfully | 15:11 |
| diplo | Looking for Offline_uncorrectable in smart ? | 15:14 |
| daftykins | that's not a familiar title | 15:15 |
| daftykins | just pastebin the lot :> | 15:15 |
| foobarry | cloning isn't necessary if you have lvm | 15:15 |
| foobarry | add the new disk, then you can remove the old smaller disk, and lvm sorts it | 15:16 |
| foobarry | *some details omitted | 15:16 |
| daftykins | what possible part of windows 8 laptop made you think of LVM? :) | 15:16 |
| foobarry | oh, unlucky | 15:17 |
| diplo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7803897/ | 15:17 |
| foobarry | flowchart finished :D | 15:17 |
| diplo | brb | 15:17 |
| foobarry | pencil has some cool features | 15:17 |
| foobarry | a bit like balsamiq but not really | 15:17 |
| foobarry | but has gtk widgets | 15:18 |
| foobarry | to pop on your diagram | 15:18 |
| daftykins | diplo: it's only reallocations so far so it might clone ok | 15:19 |
| diplo | great ta | 15:21 |
| foobarry | what's this? openclipart api? | 15:30 |
| foobarry | handy | 15:30 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/yxgrza51ndfwjs9/IMG_20140716_163001.jpg | 15:48 |
| daftykins | lol. | 15:48 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/q9t2w3z0qojmw5g/IMG_20140716_164305.jpg | 15:49 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ls2xfifyc9nk0zp/AADi5v6nyO5ruH0VZedlXH3La | 16:13 |
| daftykins | that is one tiny machine | 16:14 |
| popey | One of my first laptops was a Sony | 16:16 |
| popey | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnotebook#mediaviewer/File:Sonyvaiosub1.jpg | 16:16 |
| popey | one of them | 16:16 |
| daftykins | :) | 16:19 |
| mapps | argh | 16:53 |
| mapps | my charger keepsfalling out of my laptop | 16:54 |
| mapps | so it switches to battery then dies | 16:54 |
| mapps | :< | 16:54 |
| Laney | glue it in | 16:54 |
| mapps | hm wont that damage anything? | 16:56 |
| mapps | ive wedged a remote under it atm | 16:56 |
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| dvrr | Hi everyone..... | 17:03 |
| mapps | hey | 17:03 |
| mapps | sup | 17:03 |
| Myrtti | mapps: get one of those sticker cable things | 17:22 |
| Myrtti | http://www.brilliantstore.com/other-iphone-gadgets-xydz-os-hq0011.html like that | 17:23 |
| daftykins | well that was hairy, didn't POST for a while... but now back to normal \o/ | 17:49 |
| mapps | thanks Myrtti | 18:06 |
| mapps | sup daftykins | 18:06 |
| daftykins | hey mapps | 18:07 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ls2xfifyc9nk0zp/AADi5v6nyO5ruH0VZedlXH3La | 18:07 |
| daftykins | just operated on that. | 18:07 |
| daftykins | that was not easy | 18:08 |
| mapps | ah | 18:09 |
| mapps | what was wrong with it | 18:09 |
| mapps | also what spec | 18:09 |
| daftykins | nothing, just wanted to work on the temperatures not being ideal | 18:09 |
| daftykins | 1.2GHz Core 2 Duo ULV, 2GB RAM | 18:09 |
| mapps | ah | 18:13 |
| mapps | ULV? | 18:14 |
| daftykins | http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2014/06/scenes-from-d-day-then-and-now/100752/ | 18:14 |
| mapps | man i ove aphex twin | 18:14 |
| mapps | love | 18:14 |
| daftykins | this is amazing, after the first pic click in the others | 18:14 |
| daftykins | ultra low voltage. | 18:14 |
| daftykins | Apex Twin \o/ | 18:14 |
| mapps | yea | 18:14 |
| mapps | the best | 18:14 |
| mapps | LD | 18:14 |
| mapps | :D | 18:14 |
| mapps | you like? | 18:14 |
| daftykins | ooh yes | 18:14 |
| daftykins | from a bit of Selected Ambient Works to the others | 18:14 |
| mapps | :D | 18:15 |
| mapps | he doesnt play live much | 18:15 |
| mapps | seen him live once ..and thats it | 18:15 |
| mapps | at warehouse project 3years ag | 18:15 |
| mapps | ago | 18:15 |
| mapps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YUU7EElVhE | 18:16 |
| mapps | LOVE everyday and the video's fun too | 18:16 |
| mapps | :D | 18:16 |
| daftykins | must be off, \o | 18:17 |
| foobarry | mapps: try sugru | 18:31 |
| foobarry | makes life better. | 18:32 |
| foobarry | for your laptop | 18:33 |
| mapps | whats that | 18:35 |
| foobarry | a mouldable rubber that is permanent when it sets | 18:38 |
| foobarry | you can pop a bit on your laptop or charger cable as appropriate | 18:38 |
| mapps | and it wont damage things | 18:38 |
| mapps | atm ive got the cable in and remote under it ..its basically it works but onlt in a certain position have to move it around etc | 18:39 |
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| mapps | annoying waking u to find it off | 18:42 |
| mapps | :D | 18:42 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| popey | Myrtti: https://twitter.com/sil/status/489530828792549376 | 22:03 |
| Myrtti | ta | 22:17 |
| diddledan | http://all-that-is-interesting.com/facebook-cover-photos | 23:06 |
| diddledan | achievement unlocked: cover photo | 23:06 |
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