[01:11]  * popey hugs ali1234 
[01:11] <ali1234> :)
[01:11] <popey> I love it, didnt expect that.
[01:12]  * popey goes to bed, dreaming of riding into conflict on his battlecat
[05:33] <mapps> urgh
[06:04] <MooDoo> morning all
[06:06] <Myrtti> moin
[06:07] <mapps> hey
[06:07] <Myrtti> lappy didnt boot nicely :-(
[06:07] <Myrtti> missed the standup
[06:58] <MooDoo> anyone want to see popey and his new pet? - http://youtu.be/bMhoyyZRO5I
[07:07] <Myrtti> brilliant
[07:08] <MooDoo> :)
[07:32] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:32] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon
[07:33] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[07:33] <MooDoo> brobostigon: just beating you on the irc stats page :D
[07:33] <brobostigon> :)
[07:35] <brobostigon> would it be possible, on a watch, for you to put some much pressure on the springbar holding the strap, that the springbar just pops out?
[07:36] <MooDoo> only if it's a weak spring bar or not properly seated i guess
[07:37] <brobostigon> well exactly that happened to me last night,
[07:37] <SuperMatt> then it is possible
[07:37] <SuperMatt> what kind of mind games are you playing with us?
[07:38] <brobostigon> the strap that came with my pebble, i managed to get the strap and springbar back in properly, i think.
[07:42] <ali1234> whats a springbar?
[07:42] <MooDoo> ali1234: think it's the little bar that connects the strap to the watch
[07:43] <brobostigon> yep.
[07:43] <MooDoo> ali1234: normally they have two springy ends you need to push in to connect them to the watch, if they are not seated properly they spring out
[07:44] <MooDoo> http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc18/gaijinnv/Marathon22MMSpringBars.jpg
[07:44] <ali1234> i see
[07:45] <brobostigon> looks like i have seated it back in properly.
[08:09] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Apollo 11 Day! :-D
[08:10] <MooDoo> morning JamesTait
[08:11] <MooDoo> JamesTait: pic.twitter.com/ysjxPVbEC2
[08:13] <JamesTait> MooDoo, well look at that! :-D
[08:13] <MooDoo> thought you might like that
[08:17] <JamesTait> There was something about some dirty great weapon of mass destruction as well, but I thought I'd accentuate the positive....
[08:19] <foobarry> why would pixel lock and phase be greyed out on my monitor?
[08:19] <foobarry> they are the ones i want to tweak
[08:33] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:36] <popey> Mng
[08:38] <MooDoo> howdy bigcalm popey
[08:39] <MooDoo> popey: how's your firebreathing cat taming going? ;)
[08:41] <popey> :D
[08:52] <foobarry> rebooted with latest kernel on 12.04 (3.11.23) and no X windows :(
[08:52] <foobarry> this is like the old days
[08:52] <foobarry> nvidia driver issues i presume
[08:54] <foobarry> can i run dpkg-reconfigure on a particular package to get nvidia to reconfig?
[08:54] <foobarry> (or am i missing a package?)
[08:56] <popey> where did you get nvidia driver from?
[08:56] <popey> oh, is this 12.04 or is it really elementary or mint?
[08:56] <foobarry> i've just done dpkg-reconfigre nvidia-331-updates
[08:56] <foobarry> hoping it works
[08:56] <foobarry> repos
[08:57] <foobarry> the weird thing is that 3.11.0.24 looks installed but not in grub list
[08:57] <foobarry> odd
[08:57] <foobarry> about to reboot
[08:59] <foobarry> :( still broke
[08:59] <foobarry> have nvidia-common, nvidia-settings and nvidia-331-updates
[08:59] <foobarry> from standard ubuntu universe
[08:59] <foobarry> on 12.03
[08:59] <foobarry> .4
[09:00] <popey> 3.11.0.24 is a saucy kernel
[09:01] <foobarry> do i need to install different kernel?
[09:02] <popey> well, i would expect 14.04 to have 3.13, not 3.11
[09:02] <popey> which shouldn't need you to do anything, it should already be there
[09:02] <popey> but as you didn't answer my question, I'm assuming this is elementary or mint, and not actually ubuntu
[09:04] <foobarry> elementary, runnign on 12.04
[09:04] <popey> so I would be looking at why I'm running a 12.04 based system with a 13.10 kernel
[09:04] <popey> i.e. dpkg -l linux-image* and see what kernels you have
[09:04] <foobarry> i have generic-lts-saucy
[09:05] <popey> ok, cool.
[09:05] <bigcalm> ?
[09:05] <popey> do you have the xorg package to go with that?
[09:05] <bigcalm> Saucy wasn't an LTS
[09:05] <popey> correct
[09:05] <bigcalm> Odd package name
[09:05] <popey> no
[09:05] <foobarry> its cos i'm running LTS
[09:05] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[09:06] <popey> sorry, i said 14.04 earlier, I looked at the wrong place
[09:06] <foobarry> gonna try raring , thanks. i hadn't realised i needed to do that
[09:06] <foobarry> is there a generic-lts-latest?
[09:06] <foobarry> type pacakge
[09:06] <bigcalm> I see
[09:06]  * bigcalm goes back to sleep
[09:06] <foobarry> which xorg package pls popey ?
[09:07] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack ☻
[09:08] <popey> Anyone wishing to opt into the hardware enablement stack for Precise may do so by installing the linux-generic-lts-<release> and xserver-xorg-lts-<release> packages. For example to install the Quantal hardware enablement packages in Precise, please run the following command:
[09:08] <popey> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-raring xserver-xorg-lts-raring libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-raring
[09:08] <MartijnV1S> isn't lts-enablement being deprecated for 12.04?
[09:08] <popey> looks like the badger
[09:08] <MartijnV1S> in favor of actually running 14.04
[09:08] <popey> no
[09:08] <foobarry> thanks.
[09:08] <MartijnV1S> I thought I read that somewhere
[09:08] <popey> well, if by that you mean, "dont run 12.04" then no
[09:09] <popey> it may be that there's no more enablement packs, sure
[09:09] <popey> (I may have misunderstood what you said) :D
[09:09] <MartijnVdS> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2014-July/000186.html
[09:09] <MartijnVdS> that :)
[09:09] <MartijnVdS> On August 7, 2014, the 5th
[09:09] <MartijnVdS> and final point release for 12.04 (ie. 12.04.5) will deliver the kernel
[09:09] <MartijnVdS> and graphics stack derived from 14.04. At that time, security updates
[09:09] <MartijnVdS> and bug fixes for older hardware enablement stacks will no longer be
[09:09] <MartijnVdS> provided.
[09:10] <Myrtti> ooh
[09:10] <Myrtti> I broke my lts 1204 today too
[09:10] <Myrtti> with newest.kernel
[09:10] <Myrtti> popey: thanks will have a look
[09:11] <foobarry> lots of xserver-xorg getting removed
[09:11] <foobarry> looks more scary when in vty
[09:11] <popey> nice
[09:12] <Myrtti> MartijnVdS: yeah had to enable the hardware support again, and logging in in tty says mine is supported until 2017
[09:12] <MartijnVdS> I finally shut down my last 10.04 machine
[09:13] <MartijnVdS> it couldn't be upgraded because of some compiler flag added in 10.10
[09:13] <MooDoo> I'm thining of rebuilding my centos server for ubuntu!
[09:13] <MartijnVdS> \o/
[09:13] <popey> MooDoo: did you say you're not coming to the RAT?
[09:14] <MooDoo> popey: yes, i don't think i'll be able to make it, it's the week I change jobs...so need to work on that and family a bit.
[09:14] <popey> aww
[09:14] <popey> oh, changing jobs!?
[09:14] <popey> congrats
[09:15] <MooDoo> popey: i've put my ticket in a secrey place so when I find it, it's going to who ever wants it.
[09:15] <MooDoo> popey: thanks :D
[09:15] <popey> where you off to?
[09:15] <MooDoo> sys admin for the health store, they are a wholesaler for health products, you know the type they sell in holland and barratt!
[09:16] <popey> gotcha
[09:16] <MooDoo> canonical kept turning me down ;) lol
[09:17] <MartijnVdS> MooDoo: They sell health products here?
[09:17] <MooDoo> MartijnVdS: no lol
[09:19] <popey> They kept turning me down too ☻
[09:19] <popey> I think I applied for 4 jobs before being offered one.
[09:21] <Laney> "Air Steward on Canonical One"
[09:22] <MooDoo> popey: as soon as they advertise tea boy for the Product Strategy team @ canonical, I'm applying :)
[09:22] <MooDoo> Laney: I'm too tall for that lol
[09:23] <Laney> pilot?
[09:23] <NET||abuse> just looking at the raspberry pi b+, anyone know where to get the 4pin audio video jack cable premade?
[09:23] <Laney> just looked up where the health shop is - you could sneak in a few flights in your lunch break ;-)
[09:23] <MooDoo> Laney: I could do that, I've played microsoft flight sim, i'm qualified ;)
[09:23] <MooDoo> Laney: it's bulwell
[09:24] <Laney> ya, next to hucknall aerodrome
[09:24] <MooDoo> :)
[09:24] <popey> I think Canonical One only has Stweardesses
[09:24] <popey> I think it's some kind of positive discrimination thing ㋛
[09:24] <MooDoo> popey: I've been to rocky horror, I can pull off a skirt ;)
[09:24] <popey> hah
[09:24] <popey> Ahem.
[09:24] <MooDoo> lol
[09:32] <foobarry> :-Z
[09:46] <foobarry> ok weird. nvidia was working all along, its because i'd changed monitor
[09:46] <foobarry> "no screens found"
[09:46] <foobarry> move back to old monitor and it works
[09:46] <foobarry> although i was working ok with new monitor until reboot
[09:53] <popey> heh
[09:53] <MartijnVdS> it probably looked for a specific model/serial number
[09:54] <foobarry> the computers have won for today
[09:54] <MartijnVdS> It doesn't if you unplug a monitor (and plug in a new one) while everything is running
[09:54] <foobarry> i have work to do
[09:54] <MartijnVdS> but it DOES on startup
[09:54] <foobarry> somehow elementary got borken when xserver was instaleld
[10:02] <foobarry> MartijnVdS: how am i supposed to switch screens?
[10:03] <foobarry> s/screens/monitors/
[10:04] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: with a normal graphics card and no xorg.conf, just switch them
[10:04] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: with nvidia? no idea.
[10:06] <foobarry> ah, i had a .config/monitors.xml
[10:13] <Myrtti> popey, foobarry
[10:13] <Myrtti> I could kiss you both
[10:13] <Myrtti> thank you
[10:13] <foobarry> Myrtti: what did i do?
[10:13] <popey> huh
[10:14] <Myrtti> you brought your lts graphics problems out
[10:14] <foobarry> somehow upgrading xserver removed gala window manager :S
[10:14] <foobarry> spent 2 hrs fixing my problems today
[10:16] <Myrtti> I tried to get the hardware support extended few days back, thought I rebooted the machine a few times and it worked, and then uninstalled alsa-hda-dkms yesterday, and rebooted this morning, and didn't get past Plymouth
[10:16] <ali1234> why do people have trouble with graphics?
[10:16] <ali1234> i haven't seen a black screen since about 2008
[10:17] <Myrtti> I couldn't work the google up to tell me what to do and I was already doing backups to install LTS 1404 on this against my better judgement
[10:18] <Myrtti> it's a Dell Latitude E6430 with 1204 LTS preinstalled so I really don't want to reinstall anything on it since I didn't do the initial installing myself and I don't know what new stuff the IT dept did to it between getting it from Dell and giving it to me
[10:19] <ali1234> sounds like a damn good reason to wipe it and reinstall to me
[10:19] <Myrtti> well I don't also know what Dell has done to it before shipping it out, either
[10:19] <MooDoo> Myrtti: everything should just work with dell, I have a E6510 and everything works, the only thing I had to tweak was the wifi file as my wifi LED was blicnking all the time :D
[10:20] <MooDoo> well I say that, as in, my laptop is ok :)
[10:20] <Myrtti> but anyway
[10:20] <Seeker`> argh, graphics is a PITA
[10:20] <Myrtti> now using popeys instructions installing some packages it works again
[10:21] <Myrtti> and I don't have to reinstall anything
[10:21] <Seeker`> my mythtv box always resets to 720x576 when I turn my TV on again
[10:21] <ali1234> Seeker`: make a VGA2SCART
[10:21] <Seeker`> ali1234: wut?
[10:21] <Seeker`> no
[10:21] <Seeker`> HDMI
[10:21] <ali1234> lol, you have HDMI and it goes to 576?
[10:21] <ali1234> that's unpossible
[10:21] <Seeker`> yes
[10:21] <Seeker`> pfft
[10:21] <Seeker`> no it isn't
[10:22] <ali1234> what are you people doing to your poor computers...
[10:22] <Seeker`> I can't *stop* it going to 576
[10:22] <Seeker`> it just ignores me. Even when the nvidia driver says it has chosen 1920x1080 in xorg.0.log it *still* chooses 576
[10:23] <MartijnVdS> it's nvidia day 8-)
[10:23] <ali1234> your TV is sending bad modes
[10:23] <ali1234> tell nvidia to ignore it
[10:23] <Seeker`> ali1234: nope. It reports that it supports 1920x1080
[10:23] <Seeker`> I've told it to ignore EDID. It then decides that 800x600 is the right thing to do
[10:23] <ali1234> yes. you must tell it the modes manually
[10:23] <Seeker`> I did
[10:24] <Seeker`> it used to work fine, until my HDD died and I had to reinstall, about a year ago
[10:24] <Seeker`> new install, got this weird behaviour
[10:24] <Seeker`> it's not the monitor
[10:27] <diddledan_> nveeevia day?
[10:27] <diddledan_> I can't speel
[10:27] <diddledan_> nveedia day?
[10:35] <foobarry> the evil monitors.xml as the culprit for me and i never even noticed it before
[10:35] <foobarry> think it comes when you have 2 monitors
[10:36] <foobarry> what's the latest nvidia driver anyway?
[10:36] <foobarry> fromt he repos
[10:37] <Myrtti> 331 I think
[10:41] <popey> i have had a corrupt monitors.xml before
[10:41] <popey> just deleted it and started again
[10:41] <Myrtti> I'm so incredibly happy I fixed this problem
[10:42] <foobarry> eww. getting screen corruption
[10:42] <foobarry> in irssi
[10:42] <Myrtti> foobarry, popey: seriously, do you have paypal or something, I owe you a drink
[10:43] <foobarry> i don't think i actually did anything besides break my system and cry on irc
[10:43] <popey> haha
[10:43] <Myrtti> foobarry: but you expressed your problem in a way I couldn't do using my phone to IRC with
[10:44] <Myrtti> in words that made popey find a solution for it that I could understand
[10:44] <foobarry> Myrtti: you need to learn to receive help freely, as you freely give so much help on freenode :D
[10:44] <foobarry> where you have helped me many times before
[10:44] <Myrtti> midwifery is a valuable ... what's the word
[10:44] <Myrtti> occupation
[10:44] <Myrtti> foobarry: yeah but this was actually doing my head in
[10:45] <popey> i would say vocation
[10:45] <foobarry> which packages did you install? i'm on lts-kernel-trusty now
[10:45] <Myrtti> and it ruined my morning as I couldn't join the daily standup Hangout
[10:45] <popey> not occupation
[10:45] <MooDoo> commodity
[10:46] <Seeker`> profession?
[10:47] <Myrtti> that's the word
[10:47] <popey> \o/
[10:48] <foobarry> whats the diff between nvidia-331 and nvidia-331-updates?
[10:48] <awilkins_> -updates has updates to the kernel shims
[10:49] <Myrtti> the whats
[10:49] <awilkins> It's a binary driver ; it's provided with an open source adapter that links it to the kernel
[10:49] <awilkins> That's the "shim"
[10:50] <awilkins> (I'm not sure what terms the nvidia team use but that's how I think of it)
[10:50] <awilkins> Does seem to be the accepted term from googling it
[10:51] <foobarry> so...kde5 anyone?
[10:52] <popey> http://tumbleweed.popey.com/
[10:53] <popey> I think you mean Plasma 5.
[10:53] <popey> They've started getting a bit uppity with people using the wrong terms.
[10:53] <foobarry> KDE's plasma 5...
[10:54] <MooDoo> KDE *shiver*
[10:54] <foobarry> "Nepomuk is gone, Baloo is here"
[10:54] <MooDoo> I shouldn't say that seeing as i've not used it in years
[10:55] <foobarry> i still wear teh tshirt though
[10:55] <foobarry> kubuntu kogs
[10:58] <foobarry> i heard on UUPC that aseigo gave 200k of his own $$ to the tablet project, ..where did he get all that cash?
[10:59] <popey> I am not 100% convinced it was $200K of his own cash
[10:59] <popey> he may well have been measuring time working on the project, I don't know
[11:00] <popey> he lives in Switzerland, he can't be badly off ☻
[11:29] <MooDoo> wow spotify moving their servers to Ubuntu, that's 5000 ish of them :D
[11:30] <Myrtti> nice
[11:31] <MooDoo> http://raphaelhertzog.com/2014/07/16/spotify-migrates-5000-servers-from-debian-to-ubuntu/
[11:34] <Myrtti> oh.
[11:35] <awilkins> Wouldn't it just be super for everyone if Debian and Ubuntu got together and made LTS together?
[11:35] <awilkins> That would address the complaint reflected on that page that Ubuntu only LTS-es the main repo
[11:53] <funkyHat> awilkins: it wouldn't, because Debian's LTS only covers a subset of packages too.
[12:35] <popey> discovered http://itch.io/ today
[12:35] <popey> http://itch.io/games/platform-linux specifically
[12:35] <popey> http://itch.io/games/platform-linux/price-free
[13:53] <foobarry> i work with strange people.
[13:53] <foobarry> bought a box of lollies. not many takers
[13:56] <MooDoo> nutters
[13:57] <foobarry> aaaand now i have dropped lolly on my white shirt
[13:58] <foobarry> they made me feel weird for offering lollies on hottest day of year
[13:58] <foobarry> they are the weird ones
[13:58] <foobarry> its like when i bought cakes
[13:58] <popey> waaaat
[13:58] <daftykins> D:
[13:59] <popey> when I worked in an office if you went out and bought a box of lollies they'd be gone in seconds
[13:59] <foobarry> you'd think so
[13:59] <foobarry> no rhyme or reason
[13:59] <MooDoo> they would here where i am currently
[13:59] <foobarry> just waved away naaah i'm ok
[14:00] <popey> are they the kind that feel they then owe you?
[14:01] <foobarry> no
[14:01] <foobarry> some are not even in my team
[14:01] <foobarry> i think....gasp....shudder...they miht not like lollies and cakes
[14:02] <foobarry> 1 is vegan, 1 is milk allergy/intolerant, that leaves others
[14:04] <daftykins> defective snackers
[14:05] <foobarry> i made a mistake
[14:05] <foobarry> forgot to also buy jelly snakes and chocolate
[14:05] <foobarry> for my drawer of destiny
[14:06] <foobarry> ebuyer annual revenue is in the 100s of millions :S
[14:06] <foobarry> must be making tidy profit
[14:09] <daftykins> they're pretty good, shame that after over 4 website redesigns and constant pestering they still refuse to solve automatic VAT deduction for channel islanders
[14:10] <foobarry> i have memories of them selling really shoddy gear in the 2000s
[14:10] <foobarry> very much B grade stock, much of it broken
[14:10] <daftykins> :S
[14:10] <foobarry> an acquaintance bought a pc from parts. every part was broken
[14:10] <daftykins> wow
[14:10] <foobarry> RAM=bad, mobo=bad, etc ,etc
[14:11] <popey> daftykins: create a company account, then you don't see VAT listed
[14:11] <daftykins> the display of VAT is easily done from the top menu
[14:11] <daftykins> no problem there
[14:11] <daftykins> but i have to pay it, then ask for it back
[14:11] <popey> ah
[14:30] <diddledan_> foobarry, I'll take a lolly
[14:30] <foobarry> i'll sftp it
[14:30] <diddledan_> thankya
[14:31] <daftykins> i should've picked up ice cream at the supermarket >_<
[14:32] <daftykins> i had qualms of eating more sensibly but... it's so hot
[14:32] <Myrtti> we bought Solero Mojito lollies few weeks ago
[14:32] <Myrtti> such a disappointment
[14:33] <daftykins> that sounds pretty... erk
[14:33] <Myrtti> it said it had alcohol, but 0.02% doesn't taste much...
[14:34] <daftykins> i don't like desserts to be ruined by booze
[14:34] <foobarry> tiramisu?
[14:35] <Myrtti> daftykins: well it didn't have booze other than for marketing reasons :-|
[14:35] <Myrtti> I didn't taste the rum at all
[14:40] <popey> what a busy day!
[14:40] <popey> I've not even had one cup of tea or coffee yet!
[14:40]  * foobarry is drawing flowcharst
[14:41] <daftykins> i've bought some food and done some washing
[14:41] <daftykins> ^_^
[14:43] <popey> i went outside and video'ed an airbus a380 going over the house
[14:44] <daftykins> hehe
[14:44] <daftykins> very fancy
[14:47] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SwQfn-TSEc
[14:47] <popey> surprisingly quiet
[15:01] <daftykins> omw
[15:01] <daftykins> it looks kinda frightening, something so large banking like tht :)
[15:02] <Myrtti> jesus christ
[15:02] <Myrtti> indeed
[15:02] <popey> the a380 and the 787 both do ridiculous manouvers at air shows
[15:02] <popey> the take off looks near vertical
[15:02] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZRKm6PG918
[15:02] <popey> check out the take off on that
[15:03] <popey> bear in mind it has no seats, cargo or passengers on board
[15:03] <daftykins> :D
[15:03] <popey> the a380 does the same, its bonkers
[15:04] <daftykins> apparently our government owned airline ordered a plane without realising that you have to specify seats separately :>
[15:05] <Myrtti> jebus
[15:05] <Myrtti> I feel like throwing up looking at that
[15:06] <Dave2> When I was camping at Download we had the world's biggest plane taking off over us. That was fun.
[15:06] <diplo> Guys if I buy a identical replacement drive for a laptop which is running windows 8.1 and dd the drive can I just dd it straight back onto new one without any issues ?
[15:06] <DJones> daftykins: That sounds as bad as the French rail company that ordered 2000 new trains costing £12.1Bn and then found that they were too wide to fit in over 1000  stations
[15:06] <Dave2> (Antinov 225)
[15:06] <Dave2> Antonov, even
[15:06] <mgdm> diplo: I've done it a couple of times in the past, yeah
[15:07] <mgdm> diplo: (though that was upgrading to a bigger drive)
[15:07] <daftykins> diplo it's all about clonezilla
[15:07] <diplo> yeah thought so.. this has some bad sectors and I very much doubt they've made a back up disk of the orginal
[15:07] <Myrtti> I might have read Crichton's Airframe too many times
[15:07] <diplo> Just have a restore partition
[15:07] <mgdm> Myrtti: oh yes, I've read that a couple of times too
[15:07] <diplo> daftykins, I was debating clonezilla as well, used it in the past...
[15:07] <mgdm> diplo: dd_rescue might be useful
[15:08] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/isbwg5trnc08laf/IMG_20140715_172310.jpg
[15:08] <daftykins> cloned a mates 40GB SSD to his new 256GB one in 3.5 minutes last night
[15:09] <diplo> Will give them both a go, just don't know what affect the bad sectors will have
[15:09] <daftykins> how many are there?
[15:10] <diplo> Just seeing errors under a live disk, the machine crashes so can't run any checks on the actual disk currently
[15:10] <diplo> Crashes if I try to run any windows stuff
[15:10] <daftykins> SMART info would say though
[15:10] <diplo> God how do people use Windows 8, god awful!
[15:10] <diplo> yeah did debate about apt-getting it, not installed on the live cd I have in there
[15:11] <daftykins> with a start menu replacement, but even then... painfully
[15:14] <diplo> Looking for Offline_uncorrectable in smart ?
[15:15] <daftykins> that's not a familiar title
[15:15] <daftykins> just pastebin the lot :>
[15:15] <foobarry> cloning isn't necessary if you have lvm
[15:16] <foobarry> add the new disk, then you can remove the old smaller disk, and lvm sorts it
[15:16] <foobarry> *some details omitted
[15:16] <daftykins> what possible part of windows 8 laptop made you think of LVM? :)
[15:17] <foobarry> oh, unlucky
[15:17] <diplo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7803897/
[15:17] <foobarry> flowchart finished :D
[15:17] <diplo> brb
[15:17] <foobarry> pencil has some cool features
[15:17] <foobarry> a bit like balsamiq but not really
[15:18] <foobarry> but has gtk widgets
[15:18] <foobarry> to pop on your diagram
[15:19] <daftykins> diplo: it's only reallocations so far so it might clone ok
[15:21] <diplo> great ta
[15:30] <foobarry> what's this? openclipart api?
[15:30] <foobarry> handy
[15:48] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yxgrza51ndfwjs9/IMG_20140716_163001.jpg
[15:48] <daftykins> lol.
[15:49] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/q9t2w3z0qojmw5g/IMG_20140716_164305.jpg
[16:13] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ls2xfifyc9nk0zp/AADi5v6nyO5ruH0VZedlXH3La
[16:14] <daftykins> that is one tiny machine
[16:16] <popey> One of my first laptops was a Sony
[16:16] <popey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnotebook#mediaviewer/File:Sonyvaiosub1.jpg
[16:16] <popey> one of them
[16:19] <daftykins> :)
[16:53] <mapps> argh
[16:54] <mapps> my charger keepsfalling out of my laptop
[16:54] <mapps> so it switches to battery then dies
[16:54] <mapps> :<
[16:54] <Laney> glue it in
[16:56] <mapps> hm wont that damage anything?
[16:56] <mapps> ive wedged a remote under it atm
[17:03] <dvrr> Hi everyone.....
[17:03] <mapps> hey
[17:03] <mapps> sup
[17:22] <Myrtti> mapps: get one of those sticker cable things
[17:23] <Myrtti> http://www.brilliantstore.com/other-iphone-gadgets-xydz-os-hq0011.html like that
[17:49] <daftykins> well that was hairy, didn't POST for a while... but now back to normal \o/
[18:06] <mapps> thanks Myrtti
[18:06] <mapps> sup daftykins
[18:07] <daftykins> hey mapps
[18:07] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ls2xfifyc9nk0zp/AADi5v6nyO5ruH0VZedlXH3La
[18:07] <daftykins> just operated on that.
[18:08] <daftykins> that was not easy
[18:09] <mapps> ah
[18:09] <mapps> what was wrong with it
[18:09] <mapps> also what spec
[18:09] <daftykins> nothing, just wanted to work on the temperatures not being ideal
[18:09] <daftykins> 1.2GHz Core 2 Duo ULV, 2GB RAM
[18:13] <mapps> ah
[18:14] <mapps> ULV?
[18:14] <daftykins> http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2014/06/scenes-from-d-day-then-and-now/100752/
[18:14] <mapps> man i ove aphex twin
[18:14] <mapps> love
[18:14] <daftykins> this is amazing, after the first pic click in the others
[18:14] <daftykins> ultra low voltage.
[18:14] <daftykins> Apex Twin \o/
[18:14] <mapps> yea
[18:14] <mapps> the best
[18:14] <mapps> LD
[18:14] <mapps> :D
[18:14] <mapps> you like?
[18:14] <daftykins> ooh yes
[18:14] <daftykins> from a bit of Selected Ambient Works to the others
[18:15] <mapps> :D
[18:15] <mapps> he doesnt play live much
[18:15] <mapps> seen him live once ..and thats it
[18:15] <mapps> at warehouse project 3years ag
[18:15] <mapps> ago
[18:16] <mapps> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YUU7EElVhE
[18:16] <mapps> LOVE everyday and the video's fun too
[18:16] <mapps> :D
[18:17] <daftykins> must be off, \o
[18:31] <foobarry> mapps: try sugru
[18:32] <foobarry> makes life better.
[18:33] <foobarry> for your laptop
[18:35] <mapps> whats that
[18:38] <foobarry> a mouldable rubber that is permanent when it sets
[18:38] <foobarry> you can pop a bit on your laptop or charger cable as appropriate
[18:38] <mapps> and it wont damage things
[18:39] <mapps> atm ive got the cable in and remote under it ..its basically it works but onlt in a certain position have to move it around etc
[18:42] <mapps> annoying waking u to find it off
[18:42] <mapps> :D
[22:03] <popey> Myrtti: https://twitter.com/sil/status/489530828792549376
[22:17] <Myrtti> ta
[23:06] <diddledan> http://all-that-is-interesting.com/facebook-cover-photos
[23:06] <diddledan> achievement unlocked: cover photo