| jrwren | i'm going to be playing with this for a while... thanks cmaloney :) http://pangoly.com/en/build/share/de082a87-a5c9-424c-bf59-ce4cc4b86556 | 00:04 |
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| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/2Alnic - User generated PC build: GIGABYTE, Intel, Kingston, SeaSonic, Thermaltake, Crucial - Pangoly | 00:04 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Thank mrgoodcat | 00:13 |
| mrgoodcat | pcpartpicker is pretty good too | 00:17 |
| cmaloney | evening | 02:43 |
| sydney | cmaloney: Hulo :) | 02:47 |
| sydney | cmaloney: where do you live in Michigan? | 02:47 |
| cmaloney | sydney: Detrtoitvarea | 03:29 |
| cmaloney | ou? | 03:30 |
| sydney | cmaloney: Grand Rapids area ;) | 03:30 |
| cmaloney | ah, brousch is there as well | 03:30 |
| sydney | cmaloney: yep,i talked to him yesterday. hi brousch !! :D | 03:31 |
| sydney | cmaloney: what version of ubuntu do you run? | 03:32 |
| greg-g | Debian Testing :P | 03:53 |
| cmaloney | https://www.fitbit.com/us/toryburch | 11:38 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/9Eqxxz - Tory Burch for Fitbit | 11:38 |
| cmaloney | And people say I'm hard to shop for. :) | 11:38 |
| cmaloney | (Note: I really think these are gaudy) | 11:39 |
| jrwren | lol @ debian testing. | 13:10 |
| nullspace | rick_h__: how goes it working with a Apple laptop? | 13:28 |
| rick_h__ | nullspace: don't know, done with it :) | 13:28 |
| jrwren | O_O | 13:29 |
| jrwren | what did you do with it? | 13:29 |
| rick_h__ | well it's sitting under a pile of bills atm | 13:29 |
| rick_h__ | on my second desk | 13:29 |
| rick_h__ | not qa'ing anything in safari/osx atm :) | 13:29 |
| jrwren | so sad. <3 mine. | 13:29 |
| rick_h__ | ugh, hate that dippy thing. | 13:29 |
| jrwren | dippy? | 13:30 |
| cmaloney | You have to understand that MacOS X is not rick_h__ approved. | 13:30 |
| rick_h__ | nor is that keyboard, or screen, or touchpad, or ... | 13:30 |
| rick_h__ | dippy is a more playful stupid :) | 13:30 |
| jrwren | if the pci webcam worked in linux, it would be fully featured. I really like it. | 13:30 |
| rick_h__ | don't be so dippy! | 13:30 |
| rick_h__ | yea, that's a deal killer for me | 13:30 |
| jrwren | ok, making sure I wasn't missing some awesome dippy feature :) | 13:30 |
| rick_h__ | so now just hating on this xps13 | 13:31 |
| rick_h__ | though I did hook up the air to my 'misc' display and use it for lightroom when I got back from the 4th holiday | 13:31 |
| cmaloney | I'm surprised the X230 hasn't made a return | 13:32 |
| rick_h__ | lack of working mic kills that | 13:32 |
| rick_h__ | and I do like the screen on the xps (well size, cursed reflective screens!) | 13:32 |
| nullspace | I can't even remember when I needed a mic or a webcam on a laptop | 13:32 |
| rick_h__ | heh, I had 7 hours of google hangouts monday | 13:33 |
| rick_h__ | yay me! | 13:33 |
| rick_h__ | well, 7 scheduled. Some went short thankfully | 13:33 |
| nullspace | can't you use your tablet for that? | 13:33 |
| rick_h__ | no, referencing google docs, code snippets, other urls from a tablet is not going to work | 13:33 |
| rick_h__ | it's not like we're just shooting the breeze in the calls :) | 13:34 |
| nullspace | was just thinking use the tablet for the hangout and use your lappy for doc referencign and such | 13:34 |
| rick_h__ | that's true I guess, except you can't copy/paste | 13:34 |
| rick_h__ | so I guess you could connect twice, mute the laptop mic, and make it work | 13:35 |
| rick_h__ | but at some point you just buy a laptop with working mic/camera | 13:35 |
| nullspace | true | 13:35 |
| jrwren | not nearly as convenient as Just Works desktop hangout | 13:35 |
| cmaloney | And then bitch about how $current_laptop isn't a thinkpad. | 13:35 |
| rick_h__ | yep! | 13:35 |
| rick_h__ | hey, I've kept my bitching to a min. nullspace asked me :) | 13:35 |
| cmaloney | heh | 13:35 |
| cmaloney | I liken it to a dam bursting | 13:35 |
| rick_h__ | so laptop -1 is a work QA machine and photo machine only | 13:35 |
| rick_h__ | and sits in a corner quietly | 13:36 |
| nullspace | I only ask as I might be getting a company issued machine and the higher ups have made it clear they are interesting in having an "app" | 13:36 |
| brousch | Everyone needs an app! | 13:37 |
| rick_h__ | so running linux on it wasn't a dream. | 13:37 |
| rick_h__ | the camera doesn't work, the touchpad software is a lot worse, and the mixed up keyboard needs some remapping | 13:37 |
| brousch | heh | 13:38 |
| rick_h__ | and if you dual boot every osx update requires you to setup refindit again to get into your linux side | 13:38 |
| brousch | Remap your brain! Think different! | 13:38 |
| nullspace | aside from the not linux friendly parts of the laptop how was it just as an OSX machine? | 13:38 |
| cmaloney | Yeah | 13:38 |
| rick_h__ | nullspace: it was ok, I had the 11" and the screen res is too tiny | 13:39 |
| rick_h__ | nullspace: I can't use lightroom without an external monitor | 13:39 |
| jrwren | i had no touchpad issues. it just works, and refindit also just works. other than that, what rick_h__ said :) | 13:39 |
| brousch | And if rick_h__ says the screen res is too tiny, that means something! | 13:39 |
| rick_h__ | I had some wifi issues, but when I upgraded my router it went away. So who knew | 13:39 |
| jrwren | as a prev owner of an 11", I agree. I've found 13" is perfect for me. | 13:39 |
| rick_h__ | upgraded to AC and it would find the wifi on resume right away vs literally minutes on my N network gear | 13:40 |
| rick_h__ | jrwren: yea, I've got the 13" now with 1920x1080 and <3 | 13:40 |
| rick_h__ | well, I've got A 13" laptop (not the air 13) | 13:40 |
| brousch | I agree 12"-14" is the ideal laptop size | 13:41 |
| cmaloney | I wonder if you might like the Macbook Pro 13" better | 13:41 |
| rick_h__ | the damn thing on the 11 is that they have a decent keyboard, so the 11" screen is purely artificial | 13:41 |
| nullspace | ah, yeah I'd likely need to go to powerbook | 13:41 |
| cmaloney | but it's a much more expensive screen | 13:41 |
| rick_h__ | they have a giant bezel around the screen | 13:41 |
| rick_h__ | it could have been a 12 or 12.5" without changing the form factor at all | 13:41 |
| cmaloney | rick_h__: That's the "built to a price" machine | 13:41 |
| rick_h__ | but they're tied to their 13, 15, 17 history | 13:41 |
| nullspace | there was 17" mac? | 13:42 |
| cmaloney | Similar to the low-end 13" MacBookPro | 13:42 |
| jrwren | I beat the heck out of my laptops and the air holds up. I think part of the reason for the screen border is so it can survive drops and in my case, collisions in a bike bag | 13:43 |
| rick_h__ | nullspace: yea, I had a 17", last non-intel they had | 13:43 |
| cmaloney | nullspace: back in 2006 when those were fashionable | 13:43 |
| nullspace | must have missed it | 13:43 |
| jrwren | i think 17" macbook pros are still a thing. | 13:43 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Doubtful | 13:44 |
| cmaloney | Largest screen is 15" | 13:44 |
| rick_h__ | I thought it was deprecated with 15" retina | 13:44 |
| rick_h__ | once that came out they stopped with the 17 | 13:44 |
| cmaloney | Though the iMac could be considered a laptop if the keyboard folded over the screen. ;) | 13:44 |
| jrwren | ah. i see. | 13:46 |
| brousch | My sister had a 17" macbook. It was a beast | 13:47 |
| brousch | http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2014/6/3/technology/three-one-aussie-device-could-kill-pc | 15:15 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/WmExGA - The three-in-one Aussie device that could kill the PC | Business Spectator | 15:15 |
| cmaloney | Two words: bullshit | 15:20 |
| brousch | OBviously it won't kill the PC, but nifty device | 15:21 |
| cmaloney | I'll be surprise if this makes it out of the funding gate and into the production gate. | 15:23 |
| cmaloney | There's a huge gap between prototype and production | 15:23 |
| cmaloney | I do wonder how much of a market there is for these convertible devices though | 15:24 |
| _stink_ | sales staff? that's all i can think of | 15:24 |
| cmaloney | Seems like the Netbook phenomenon all over again | 15:24 |
| cmaloney | Everyone will have to have one, until nobody wants one | 15:24 |
| cmaloney | _stink_: yeah, much the same way that "hotelling" caught on. | 15:25 |
| brousch | I would like this. I want a dual-boot Android/Linux tablet | 15:36 |
| brousch | However it needs more than 32GB for the Linux part | 15:36 |
| brousch | cmaloney: wow. I missed nearly all of the prisoners you took. I only noticed 2 of them | 18:24 |
| greg-g | wait, they're basically doing what Canonical wanted to do, even after Canonical stopped going down the route, and they're calling the device... Unity | 18:28 |
| * greg-g headdesks | 18:28 | |
| rick_h__ | greg-g: ? | 18:28 |
| greg-g | http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2014/6/3/technology/three-one-aussie-device-could-kill-pc | 18:28 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/WmExGA - The three-in-one Aussie device that could kill the PC | Business Spectator | 18:28 |
| greg-g | lol, the video is hilariously bad | 18:29 |
| rick_h__ | hmm, well we are still trying to do the convergence story of desktop off your device I think | 18:29 |
| greg-g | so, even worse then :) | 18:30 |
| greg-g | trying to do what canonical is also trying to do, and calling it unity | 18:30 |
| rick_h__ | oh, so this is android tied | 18:30 |
| rick_h__ | yea, not that | 18:30 |
| brousch | greg-g: Even using Ubuntu! | 18:31 |
| greg-g | oh, rick_h__, while you're here... | 18:36 |
| greg-g | short list of good tech management books? | 18:36 |
| greg-g | in ~2 weeks (hopefully, pending any last minute vetos) I'll officially have 7 engineers reporting to me. Right now those 7 are "on my team" (for various values of "on" "my" and "team") | 18:37 |
| rick_h__ | greg-g: quit now and run away? | 18:37 |
| greg-g | :( | 18:37 |
| * greg-g waits for rick_h__ to smile, waits for rick_h__ to smile.... please smile.... please smile | 18:38 | |
| rick_h__ | honestly, I've not had a chance to look at many books. | 18:38 |
| rick_h__ | time for that is something I just can't scrounge up | 18:38 |
| greg-g | oh, I thought you had like 5 or so you were reading | 18:38 |
| rick_h__ | heh, I read a kanban book, and bought 3 I've not opened | 18:38 |
| greg-g | yeah, I have 5ish hours of commute time each week, so... | 18:38 |
| greg-g | gotcha | 18:38 |
| rick_h__ | yea, I had hoped to find some of the recommended books on audible but no luck | 18:39 |
| greg-g | :9 | 18:39 |
| rick_h__ | which has hurt since I could do more of that | 18:39 |
| greg-g | :( | 18:39 |
| greg-g | yeah | 18:39 |
| rick_h__ | greg-g: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7804842/ is what I bought | 18:40 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/ca3354 - Ubuntu Pastebin | 18:40 |
| rick_h__ | I've only read much into one of them | 18:40 |
| brousch | 5 hours commute?! | 18:40 |
| rick_h__ | I started another | 18:40 |
| rick_h__ | greg-g: honestly though I'm flying by the seat of my pants and going crazy here so not the best person to chat with. | 18:42 |
| brousch | Think of your underlings as server processes. If they don't do what you want, kill them and restart them | 18:44 |
| rick_h__ | heh, yea not quite the way it works | 18:44 |
| brousch | If they are troublesome, add a bunch of tests and monitor them closely. Keep statistics to find out where they are inefficient and ruthlessly correct it. | 18:47 |
| cmaloney | brousch: Good game | 18:51 |
| cmaloney | brousch: You haven't learned some of my bad habits in Go. | 18:52 |
| cmaloney | I tend to try to get a lot of captures and that can lead to me going down a lot of rabbitholes. | 18:52 |
| brousch | I'm still not sure of the scoring. You get points for captures and for territory, but I'm not sure of the points for each | 18:53 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, the scoring is a little weird | 18:54 |
| cmaloney | there's a concept of dead stones that I'm still a little fuzzy on | 18:54 |
| cmaloney | But we didn't have any dead stones in this game | 18:56 |
| greg-g | brousch: for the week | 19:02 |
| greg-g | brousch: 1.25 hours each way, 2 days week | 19:02 |
| greg-g | rick_h__: haha | 19:02 |
| brousch | cmaloney: I don't understand how territory is converted to points. I had 35 spaces and you had 46, but it gave me 11 points and you 16. Even if you divide it by 3 it would be 11.67 and 15.33 | 19:06 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm not going to be at CHC tonight | 19:09 |
| mrgoodcat | again | 19:09 |
| mrgoodcat | :/ | 19:10 |
| brousch | Ah, scoring is based on the empty spaces you control, not the entire area | 19:16 |
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| widox | mrgoodcat: now you're on my CHC schedule ;) | 19:30 |
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| cmaloney | brousch: yep | 20:00 |
| cmaloney | The book Beginning Go has a good chapter on scoring | 20:01 |
| cmaloney | Though it still eludes me | 20:01 |
| cmaloney | Not the least of which is because there's both Japanese and Chinese methods of scoring | 20:02 |
| brousch | Wikipedia seemed pretty clear | 20:05 |
| brousch | Though dead stones also elude me | 20:05 |
| gamerchick02 | jrwren! hi! | 22:09 |
| gamerchick02 | also hello ColonelPanic001 i have not talked to you in awhile. | 22:09 |
| jrwren | hi hi | 22:49 |
| jrwren | party? | 22:49 |
| gamerchick02 | sure | 23:01 |
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