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Squirmmorning06:36
psyatwmorning Squirm 06:37
Kilosmorning all06:37
psyatwhi Kilos 06:37
Kiloshows things going with you psyatw 06:38
psyatwKilos, quite all-right, I should say06:40
psyatwI'm finally getting settled again, although that is never too certain in my case06:40
psyatwand how are things going with you?06:40
Kiloshaha06:40
Kilosgood ty06:40
psyatwI just stayed here cleaning up my apartment and enjoying the world cup for the past few weeks06:46
Kiloscool06:47
nuvolario/ morning07:04
nuvolarioh hi/bu407:07
nuvolarier07:07
nuvolarisorry07:07
nuvolarioh hi Vince-0 07:07
Kiloslo nuvolari Vince-0 07:08
nuvolarihi oom Kilos!07:09
nuvolarioh hi psyatw 07:09
psyatwhi nuvolari 07:09
charlgood morning Squirm, psyatw, Kilos, nuvolari, Vince-0 07:16
charlMaaz: coffee on07:16
* Maaz puts the kettle on07:16
nuvolarioh hi charl 07:16
nuvolariMaaz: coffee please07:16
Maaznuvolari: Done07:16
psyatwgood morning charl 07:17
Kiloshi charl 07:17
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 07:17
ThatGraemeGuymorning07:17
Vince-0Morn@07:18
Vince-0WINSday07:18
MaazCoffee's ready for charl and nuvolari!07:20
charlMaaz: thanks07:27
Maazcharl: Okay :-)07:27
mazalMorning everyone07:43
mazalanybody used this before: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/systemback-simple-system-backup-and-restore-application-with-extra-features.html07:44
mazalLooks interesting07:44
charlhi mazal 07:45
Kiloshi mazal 07:46
inetprogood mornings07:59
Kilosmorning inetpro 07:59
mazalWhat caught my attention there is the " Live system creation " , with remastersys stopped that might be an option08:02
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inetprohi Kilos08:09
inetproKilos: topic updated for you, sorry for being late with that08:09
Kilosnp inetpro ty for doing that. i worry with you getting so busy08:11
Kilosall work and no play makes jack a dull bow08:12
charlhi inetpro 08:18
Kilosthen again all play means no work gets done08:20
inetprohi charl08:28
inetproKilos: no worries, I shall hopefully be more active here again one day08:30
Kiloshahaha while im still alive inetpro ?08:35
Kilosmazal, whats wrong with deja-dup09:00
mazalNothing wrong with it oom , it just can't make live iso09:00
Kilosoh sorry i misunderstood again09:00
Kilospity about remastersys hey09:01
psyatwhi inetpro 09:01
psyatwhi mazal09:01
psyatwhi ThatGraemeGuy 09:01
mazalhi psyatw 09:02
mazalJa nee oom , live iso making is a must for me09:02
Kiloswasnt there a fork to remastersys?09:02
mazalThat dies before it even started. Last time I checked there was still nothing going on there09:04
Kiloseish09:04
mazalCurrently I use an old 12.04 deb of remastersys09:04
mazalFortunately it works with 14.0409:04
Kiloswell thats ok as long as it still works09:04
Kilos64bit?09:05
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mazalYep , 64bit09:26
mazalCan't remember of remastersys is 64bit version though09:27
Kilosah did you have to do fancy things to it mazal ?09:27
mazalNope , just installed the deb and Ubuntu installed the dependencies09:27
Kilosi still have a 12.04 package somewhere09:27
Kiloscool09:27
mazalI downloaded the last one that those new guys put on their site09:27
Kilosill try find what i have09:28
mazalhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/os4systemimage/files/Remastersys%203.0.4-2/09:28
Kilosty09:28
mazalThat's the last deb that was made that I could find09:28
Kilossize?09:29
Kilosim a bit strapped for data but hope to get this avy09:29
mazal3.3mb for the "all" package09:30
Kiloscool09:30
Kilosty09:30
mazalThe two gui files is about 178k each , but I never use those anyway09:30
Kiloshaha i always use them09:31
mazalFor some reason that link don't work09:31
mazalhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/os4systemimage/files/09:31
mazalThis one does09:31
Kiloscool ty09:31
Kiloswhere do you see an all option?09:33
Kilosoh all.deb09:33
mazalYay ! Finally got my first Mithril09:42
Kiloslol theres lots down deep09:42
mazalAlready have 8 rainbows and only 6 Mithril :P09:42
Kiloswow09:43
Kilosnever seen any nyan cat stuff yet09:43
Kilosmithril picks work lekker when working near lava, slower than mese and diamond picks09:45
Kilosbut you need mithril later for some mods i think09:45
mazalBattled last night to get Jungles in sheees09:47
Kiloslol09:47
mazalAnd to fix the farming_plus mod that the update broke09:47
Kilosdo you have the home stuff mod?09:47
mazalYep09:47
Kiloswhew funny stuff to make there09:47
Kilostry make a grinder or wrench and see09:48
Kilossjoe09:48
mazalTons of stuff to build there. Only problem is some of them in the crafter shows "unknown" at some recipe items09:48
mazalSo we still short a mod or two09:48
Kilosnope graeme says you must use alternative09:48
mazalAnd I installed all required and recommended mods that the mod creator said09:49
Kiloshe works around stuff i dont understand09:49
mazalEven alternate recipes have some unknowns09:49
Kiloshaha another one i battled with is machine casing09:50
Kilosoh09:50
Kiloswait09:50
Kilossome of the ores you must use an alloy furnace to make. the kitchen furnace dont make right copper ingots for example09:51
Kilosvery involved stuff09:51
Kilosek sukkel my lam09:52
mazalalloy furnace ?10:06
Kilosi cant go see now but type in alloy in the crafter then look at the options it gives10:07
Kilosi think i found furnace there10:08
mazalI don't have alloy10:08
mazalThat's a mod I don't have on mine10:08
Kilosthings like fine copper wire etc?10:09
Kilosand engins and stuff10:09
Kilosengine10:09
Kilosand solar panels10:10
mazalSounds like I have a different home decor mod10:10
Kilosoh wait for graeme to get a break and ask him10:11
Kiloshe has wonderful stuff made to flatten my head trying to sort out10:11
Kiloshehe10:11
Kiloswbb10:56
nuvolarioh hi 11:55
nuvolarioom ping te veel :P11:55
GrembleHmm anyone here familiar with ssh'ing from ubuntu into a debian VM?11:59
Kilosek het niemand geping nie nuvolari 12:03
Kilosek was buite na n reboot12:03
Kilosoi they away atm Gremble , methinks superfly is doing that12:07
Vince-0Gremble, why would it be any different from ssh'ing into any other server?12:16
GrembleI dunno. I havent done either12:16
nuvolariyeah, should be the same12:20
Gremblehttps://muffinresearch.co.uk/howto-ssh-into-virtualbox-3-linux-guests/ Following this, and I get a connection refused error12:22
Kilosyou gotta be allowed on the other one i think12:22
Vince-0are they bridged or NAT network devices for the VMs12:38
Vince-0ew, that article is from 201012:38
GrembleNAT12:39
Vince-0I only use bridged devices for virtualbox12:39
GrembleWhat is a bridged device?12:39
Vince-0less of an issue - I'll tell you that much12:39
GrembleOk. thanks12:42
Vince-0I've never actually used NAT for virtualbox VMs12:43
Vince-0'cos it messes with voip12:44
mazalBye everyone , have a nice evening12:46
GrembleBlergh. This is more effort than it is work12:49
Grembleworth12:49
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Kiloshaha13:28
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SilverCodeis anyone having issues with the Raring repos?13:48
SilverCodeI keep getting errors trying to install from them13:49
KilosSilverCode, they been messed up for about a month now13:49
Kilosuse main13:49
SilverCodethats the thing, I've tried main and the za repos13:49
SilverCodeand both are failing13:50
Kilosoh my13:50
Kiloswhat are you trying to install?13:50
Kiloswhat error are you getting13:50
Squirmso... I have quite an old machine now. It's going on about 6/7 years. 2.3Ghz Dual Core Processor, about 4Gb RAM. I'm looking at getting a small 120Gb SSD, is it worth it? Will I notice a performance difference?13:53
Squirmit's a normal day to day machine. Internet, Email, IRC, etc13:53
SilverCodewas trying to install nodejs13:53
KilosSilverCode, try aptitude install nodejs and see what it tells you is wrong13:54
SilverCodeKilos: it just 404's on some packages13:55
Kiloswhew they expensive them drives hey Squirm 13:55
SilverCodelooks like it has just been EOL'd though13:55
SilverCodewhy they have to move the actaul repos confuses me13:55
Kilosoh my13:55
Kilosmaybe you can still get those packages independantly13:57
SilverCodemeh, maybe I should suck it up and just switch over to 14.0413:58
Kilosoh you still on 12.0413:59
SilverCodeno, 13.0413:59
Kilossupport is only 6 months for non lts releases14:00
Kilosnot worth using rhem unless you do them rolling releases14:00
SilverCodeI know ... but I didn't expect them to just up and move the repos like that. Sure, stop doing security updates, but at the very lease keep the repos where they were so I can install the exsiting old stuff :(14:01
Kilosoh wait14:02
Kilosthere is a way14:02
Kilosold releases14:02
Kilosi ran 10.10 for years after it was shelved14:02
SquirmKilos: the drives are expensive. but they're a lot cheaper than upgrading other bits14:03
Kilosyou just after the speed Squirm ?14:03
Squirmany other reason to upgrade14:04
Squirmit's the performance increase for the price that I'm after14:04
Kilosyeah well you can explain it to me when you do it, because sata drives do gigs/s so how much faster can it be14:05
Kilosthe cpu will not be fast enough to make a diffs isnt it14:05
charlhi SilverCode 14:07
Kilosisnt that like putting racing wheels on an uno14:08
Kilosyou might get more speed overclocking the cpu if it can take it14:10
Kilosimo14:10
SquirmKilos: you see... If I upgrade my processor and RAM, the ones I want will cost me just over R4200, whereas an SSD will be about R150014:13
Kilosoh the mobo can take later cpu's14:13
Squirmyes, I have to upgrade CPU, motherboard and RAM14:14
Kilosi have ThatGraemeGuy t here too, using dual core but can use even i7 14:14
SquirmKilos: that depends on the board14:14
Kilosai14:14
Kilosi have that too14:14
Squirmyou can still buy Dual Cores for the newer boards14:14
Kilosdunno why i hit tab there14:14
Kilosyes thats what i did, 1155 board with dual core cpu14:15
Squirmyes14:15
Squirmbut I want a 1150 board with the shiny new processor :P14:15
Kiloslol so do i14:16
Kilosbut ill be happy even with an i5 cpu in here14:16
SquirmI'm going to paste14:16
Squirmthis is prices from Esquire14:17
Squirmex VAT14:17
SquirmFoxconn B85MX- Intel® B85 Chipset LGA 1150 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 u ATX Motherboard- Socket LGA 1150, Supports: Intel Core i7, Core i5, Core i3 processors , 2x Dual-channel 1600MHz DDRIII slots, up to 32GB, 4x SATAIII, 3 x USB 3.0 (2 on Back panel , 1x Cable) ,4x USB 2.0 ports(2 on Back panel ,2x Cable) 1x PCIe 3.0 x16 slot , 1x PCIe x1 slot , 1x PCI bus slots, , Intel HD Graphics (On CPU), Realtek Gigabit LAN, 5.1channel HD Audio, Rear14:17
Squirm IO Panel Display Ports Available: D-Sub Port, HDMI Port, Form Factor – Micro ATX14:17
SquirmR69914:17
SquirmIntel Core I5-4670K Haswell Processor LGA 1150 , 22NM 3.4GHZ 3.8 Turbo Ghz 4 Cores/ 4 Threads, 6M Cache14:17
SquirmR269914:17
SquirmKingston ValueRam 4.0GB  DDR3 1600MHZ Non ECC Desktop Memory Module14:17
SquirmR43914:17
Squirmcomes to R3837 ex14:17
Kilosi have a foxcon motherboard here. seems very efficient to me compared to what i was used to14:23
bushtechSquirm: On a kubuntu machine I saw a noticeable increase in speed using a 120gb ssd as an os drive14:45
Kilosaha14:45
Kiloswhew but they are pricey14:48
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charlgood evening folks17:39
Kiloshi charl 17:45
Kilosohi my fly17:51
Kilosbusy day hey17:51
charlhi Kilos 18:04
charli was running around today yes18:04
Kilosthe fly and others too, no pc time18:04
Kilosand gremble even forgot to revert to his nick18:24
thebearnadoI have turned a new leaf.  Taken on a new persona. I will now wreak havoc wherever I land!18:24
thebearnadoTHEBEARNADO18:24
Kilosrofl18:25
superflyapparently they're even making a "Sharknado" game. ai.19:02
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Kilosonly 10 more minutes20:49
thebearnadountil the end of the world?20:49
Kiloslol no man till 11pm and night surfer data starts working20:50
thebearnadoOh20:50
thebearnadoThat is much less exciting actually20:51
thebearnado:P20:51
Kiloshaha20:51
thebearnadoCompiz is causing tearing20:51
thebearnadoI feel like I get shafted everytime I install Ubuntu20:51
Kiloswhat are you doing wrong20:51
superflyWhich is why I steer clear of anything GTK-based. KDE or LXQt for me, thanks.20:52
superflyI installed the beginnings of KDE 5 on my computer at work today. It's really smooth... just needs more polish.20:53
thebearnadoWhen this harddisk finally packs up20:53
thebearnadoI am going to do an arch install and get it over and done with20:53
thebearnadoI need sanity in my life20:54
thebearnadoOr maybe slackware20:54
thebearnadoI havent decided yet 20:54
thebearnado:P20:54
Kilosthebearnado, what drive 20:54
thebearnadoThe one on which my OS is living at the moment20:55
thebearnadoOne day I am going to boot up my computer and it is just going to be dead20:55
thebearnadoI will be so happy20:55
Kilosi am running 2 old drives with windows using up the first 30 gig which is the place where ubuntu gives probs, and now ubuntu runs fine like that running on next partition20:56
superflyIf you want sanity, why do you want to install arch or slack? Seriously, I would not recommend either of those if you're struggling with Ubuntu.20:56
Kiloshow can you be happy without a pc20:56
Kiloslinux is very sensitive to faulty drives20:57
thebearnadoThat means that I have a valid excuse for a new drive20:57
Kiloslol20:57
thebearnadoI am too poor to just go and buy one :P It has to be broken, then I can ask my financiers for a new one20:57
Kiloswhat size drive?20:57
Kiloshahaha20:58
thebearnadosuperfly, I love my Arch laptop :P20:58
thebearnadoI think it is 120gb Kilos 20:58
thebearnadoSlackware is there just because I haven't given it a whirl yet20:58
* superfly is hoping insurance will agree to pay out R5000 for a new laptop20:58
superflyAnd I just filed my taxes, so I should get a nice return there...20:58
Kilosoh my superfly was one stolen?20:58
thebearnadoI am not clever enough for BSD, otherwise I wouldve tried FreeBSD again20:58
superflyKilos: no, worse... I broke it :-(20:58
superflythebearnado: PC-BSD20:59
Kilosthe mac?20:59
Kiloshow did you break it?20:59
Kilosyou normally fix things21:00
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superflyKilos: no, my netbook21:28
Kiloseish superfly what happened21:28
superflylong story, en ek wil bed toe gaan21:28
Kilosok lekker slaap21:29
Kilosim just making some things in minetest21:29
Kilosnight all. sleep tight22:03

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