[05:05] More almal === SubOracle[away] is now known as SubOracle [06:36] morning [06:37] morning Squirm [06:37] morning all [06:37] hi Kilos [06:38] hows things going with you psyatw [06:40] Kilos, quite all-right, I should say [06:40] I'm finally getting settled again, although that is never too certain in my case [06:40] and how are things going with you? [06:40] haha [06:40] good ty [06:46] I just stayed here cleaning up my apartment and enjoying the world cup for the past few weeks [06:47] cool [07:04] o/ morning [07:07] oh hi/bu4 [07:07] er [07:07] sorry [07:07] oh hi Vince-0 [07:08] lo nuvolari Vince-0 [07:09] hi oom Kilos! [07:09] oh hi psyatw [07:09] hi nuvolari [07:16] good morning Squirm, psyatw, Kilos, nuvolari, Vince-0 [07:16] Maaz: coffee on [07:16] * Maaz puts the kettle on [07:16] oh hi charl [07:16] Maaz: coffee please [07:16] nuvolari: Done [07:17] good morning charl [07:17] hi charl [07:17] hi ThatGraemeGuy [07:17] morning [07:18] Morn@ [07:18] WINSday [07:20] Coffee's ready for charl and nuvolari! [07:27] Maaz: thanks [07:27] charl: Okay :-) [07:43] Morning everyone [07:44] anybody used this before: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/systemback-simple-system-backup-and-restore-application-with-extra-features.html [07:44] Looks interesting [07:45] hi mazal [07:46] hi mazal [07:59] good mornings [07:59] morning inetpro [08:02] What caught my attention there is the " Live system creation " , with remastersys stopped that might be an option === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-za to: Ubuntu South Africa http://ubuntu-za.org || MList: http://bit.ly/MCOujZ || PBin: http://slexy.org/ || Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com || Next Meeting: Tue, 22 July 20:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/W9uu4X || Twitter: https://twitter.com/ubuntuza [08:09] hi Kilos [08:09] Kilos: topic updated for you, sorry for being late with that [08:11] np inetpro ty for doing that. i worry with you getting so busy [08:12] all work and no play makes jack a dull bow [08:18] hi inetpro [08:20] then again all play means no work gets done [08:28] hi charl [08:30] Kilos: no worries, I shall hopefully be more active here again one day [08:35] hahaha while im still alive inetpro ? [09:00] mazal, whats wrong with deja-dup [09:00] Nothing wrong with it oom , it just can't make live iso [09:00] oh sorry i misunderstood again [09:01] pity about remastersys hey [09:01] hi inetpro [09:01] hi mazal [09:01] hi ThatGraemeGuy [09:02] hi psyatw [09:02] Ja nee oom , live iso making is a must for me [09:02] wasnt there a fork to remastersys? [09:04] That dies before it even started. Last time I checked there was still nothing going on there [09:04] eish [09:04] Currently I use an old 12.04 deb of remastersys [09:04] Fortunately it works with 14.04 [09:04] well thats ok as long as it still works [09:05] 64bit? === SubOracle is now known as SubOracle[away] === SilverCo1 is now known as SilverCode [09:26] Yep , 64bit [09:27] Can't remember of remastersys is 64bit version though [09:27] ah did you have to do fancy things to it mazal ? [09:27] Nope , just installed the deb and Ubuntu installed the dependencies [09:27] i still have a 12.04 package somewhere [09:27] cool [09:27] I downloaded the last one that those new guys put on their site [09:28] ill try find what i have [09:28] http://sourceforge.net/projects/os4systemimage/files/Remastersys%203.0.4-2/ [09:28] ty [09:28] That's the last deb that was made that I could find [09:29] size? [09:29] im a bit strapped for data but hope to get this avy [09:30] 3.3mb for the "all" package [09:30] cool [09:30] ty [09:30] The two gui files is about 178k each , but I never use those anyway [09:31] haha i always use them [09:31] For some reason that link don't work [09:31] http://sourceforge.net/projects/os4systemimage/files/ [09:31] This one does [09:31] cool ty [09:33] where do you see an all option? [09:33] oh all.deb [09:42] Yay ! Finally got my first Mithril [09:42] lol theres lots down deep [09:42] Already have 8 rainbows and only 6 Mithril :P [09:43] wow [09:43] never seen any nyan cat stuff yet [09:45] mithril picks work lekker when working near lava, slower than mese and diamond picks [09:45] but you need mithril later for some mods i think [09:47] Battled last night to get Jungles in sheees [09:47] lol [09:47] And to fix the farming_plus mod that the update broke [09:47] do you have the home stuff mod? [09:47] Yep [09:47] whew funny stuff to make there [09:48] try make a grinder or wrench and see [09:48] sjoe [09:48] Tons of stuff to build there. Only problem is some of them in the crafter shows "unknown" at some recipe items [09:48] So we still short a mod or two [09:48] nope graeme says you must use alternative [09:49] And I installed all required and recommended mods that the mod creator said [09:49] he works around stuff i dont understand [09:49] Even alternate recipes have some unknowns [09:50] haha another one i battled with is machine casing [09:50] oh [09:50] wait [09:51] some of the ores you must use an alloy furnace to make. the kitchen furnace dont make right copper ingots for example [09:51] very involved stuff [09:52] ek sukkel my lam [10:06] alloy furnace ? [10:07] i cant go see now but type in alloy in the crafter then look at the options it gives [10:08] i think i found furnace there [10:08] I don't have alloy [10:08] That's a mod I don't have on mine [10:09] things like fine copper wire etc? [10:09] and engins and stuff [10:09] engine [10:10] and solar panels [10:10] Sounds like I have a different home decor mod [10:11] oh wait for graeme to get a break and ask him [10:11] he has wonderful stuff made to flatten my head trying to sort out [10:11] hehe [10:56] wbb [11:55] oh hi [11:55] oom ping te veel :P [11:59] Hmm anyone here familiar with ssh'ing from ubuntu into a debian VM? [12:03] ek het niemand geping nie nuvolari [12:03] ek was buite na n reboot [12:07] oi they away atm Gremble , methinks superfly is doing that [12:16] Gremble, why would it be any different from ssh'ing into any other server? [12:16] I dunno. I havent done either [12:20] yeah, should be the same [12:22] https://muffinresearch.co.uk/howto-ssh-into-virtualbox-3-linux-guests/ Following this, and I get a connection refused error [12:22] you gotta be allowed on the other one i think [12:38] are they bridged or NAT network devices for the VMs [12:38] ew, that article is from 2010 [12:39] NAT [12:39] I only use bridged devices for virtualbox [12:39] What is a bridged device? [12:39] less of an issue - I'll tell you that much [12:42] Ok. thanks [12:43] I've never actually used NAT for virtualbox VMs [12:44] 'cos it messes with voip [12:46] Bye everyone , have a nice evening [12:49] Blergh. This is more effort than it is work [12:49] worth === Gremble is now known as thegrizzlynado === thegrizzlynado is now known as thebearnado === SubOracle[away] is now known as SubOracle [13:28] haha === SubOracle is now known as SubOracle[away] === SubOracle[away] is now known as SubOracle [13:48] is anyone having issues with the Raring repos? [13:49] I keep getting errors trying to install from them [13:49] SilverCode, they been messed up for about a month now [13:49] use main [13:49] thats the thing, I've tried main and the za repos [13:50] and both are failing [13:50] oh my [13:50] what are you trying to install? [13:50] what error are you getting [13:53] so... I have quite an old machine now. It's going on about 6/7 years. 2.3Ghz Dual Core Processor, about 4Gb RAM. I'm looking at getting a small 120Gb SSD, is it worth it? Will I notice a performance difference? [13:53] it's a normal day to day machine. Internet, Email, IRC, etc [13:53] was trying to install nodejs [13:54] SilverCode, try aptitude install nodejs and see what it tells you is wrong [13:55] Kilos: it just 404's on some packages [13:55] whew they expensive them drives hey Squirm [13:55] looks like it has just been EOL'd though [13:55] why they have to move the actaul repos confuses me [13:55] oh my [13:57] maybe you can still get those packages independantly [13:58] meh, maybe I should suck it up and just switch over to 14.04 [13:59] oh you still on 12.04 [13:59] no, 13.04 [14:00] support is only 6 months for non lts releases [14:00] not worth using rhem unless you do them rolling releases [14:01] I know ... but I didn't expect them to just up and move the repos like that. Sure, stop doing security updates, but at the very lease keep the repos where they were so I can install the exsiting old stuff :( [14:02] oh wait [14:02] there is a way [14:02] old releases [14:02] i ran 10.10 for years after it was shelved [14:03] Kilos: the drives are expensive. but they're a lot cheaper than upgrading other bits [14:03] you just after the speed Squirm ? [14:04] any other reason to upgrade [14:04] it's the performance increase for the price that I'm after [14:05] yeah well you can explain it to me when you do it, because sata drives do gigs/s so how much faster can it be [14:05] the cpu will not be fast enough to make a diffs isnt it [14:07] hi SilverCode [14:08] isnt that like putting racing wheels on an uno [14:10] you might get more speed overclocking the cpu if it can take it [14:10] imo [14:13] Kilos: you see... If I upgrade my processor and RAM, the ones I want will cost me just over R4200, whereas an SSD will be about R1500 [14:13] oh the mobo can take later cpu's [14:14] yes, I have to upgrade CPU, motherboard and RAM [14:14] i have ThatGraemeGuy t here too, using dual core but can use even i7 [14:14] Kilos: that depends on the board [14:14] ai [14:14] i have that too [14:14] you can still buy Dual Cores for the newer boards [14:14] dunno why i hit tab there [14:15] yes thats what i did, 1155 board with dual core cpu [14:15] yes [14:15] but I want a 1150 board with the shiny new processor :P [14:16] lol so do i [14:16] but ill be happy even with an i5 cpu in here [14:16] I'm going to paste [14:17] this is prices from Esquire [14:17] ex VAT [14:17] Foxconn B85MX- Intel® B85 Chipset LGA 1150 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 u ATX Motherboard- Socket LGA 1150, Supports: Intel Core i7, Core i5, Core i3 processors , 2x Dual-channel 1600MHz DDRIII slots, up to 32GB, 4x SATAIII, 3 x USB 3.0 (2 on Back panel , 1x Cable) ,4x USB 2.0 ports(2 on Back panel ,2x Cable) 1x PCIe 3.0 x16 slot , 1x PCIe x1 slot , 1x PCI bus slots, , Intel HD Graphics (On CPU), Realtek Gigabit LAN, 5.1channel HD Audio, Rear [14:17] IO Panel Display Ports Available: D-Sub Port, HDMI Port, Form Factor – Micro ATX [14:17] R699 [14:17] Intel Core I5-4670K Haswell Processor LGA 1150 , 22NM 3.4GHZ 3.8 Turbo Ghz 4 Cores/ 4 Threads, 6M Cache [14:17] R2699 [14:17] Kingston ValueRam 4.0GB DDR3 1600MHZ Non ECC Desktop Memory Module [14:17] R439 [14:17] comes to R3837 ex [14:23] i have a foxcon motherboard here. seems very efficient to me compared to what i was used to [14:45] Squirm: On a kubuntu machine I saw a noticeable increase in speed using a 120gb ssd as an os drive [14:45] aha [14:48] whew but they are pricey === SubOracle is now known as SubOracle[away] === SubOracle[away] is now known as SubOracle [17:39] good evening folks [17:45] hi charl [17:51] ohi my fly [17:51] busy day hey [18:04] hi Kilos [18:04] i was running around today yes [18:04] the fly and others too, no pc time [18:24] and gremble even forgot to revert to his nick [18:24] I have turned a new leaf. Taken on a new persona. I will now wreak havoc wherever I land! [18:24] THEBEARNADO [18:25] rofl [19:02] apparently they're even making a "Sharknado" game. ai. === SubOracle is now known as SubOracle[away] [20:49] only 10 more minutes [20:49] until the end of the world? [20:50] lol no man till 11pm and night surfer data starts working [20:50] Oh [20:51] That is much less exciting actually [20:51] :P [20:51] haha [20:51] Compiz is causing tearing [20:51] I feel like I get shafted everytime I install Ubuntu [20:51] what are you doing wrong [20:52] Which is why I steer clear of anything GTK-based. KDE or LXQt for me, thanks. [20:53] I installed the beginnings of KDE 5 on my computer at work today. It's really smooth... just needs more polish. [20:53] When this harddisk finally packs up [20:53] I am going to do an arch install and get it over and done with [20:54] I need sanity in my life [20:54] Or maybe slackware [20:54] I havent decided yet [20:54] :P [20:54] thebearnado, what drive [20:55] The one on which my OS is living at the moment [20:55] One day I am going to boot up my computer and it is just going to be dead [20:55] I will be so happy [20:56] i am running 2 old drives with windows using up the first 30 gig which is the place where ubuntu gives probs, and now ubuntu runs fine like that running on next partition [20:56] If you want sanity, why do you want to install arch or slack? Seriously, I would not recommend either of those if you're struggling with Ubuntu. [20:56] how can you be happy without a pc [20:57] linux is very sensitive to faulty drives [20:57] That means that I have a valid excuse for a new drive [20:57] lol [20:57] I am too poor to just go and buy one :P It has to be broken, then I can ask my financiers for a new one [20:57] what size drive? [20:58] hahaha [20:58] superfly, I love my Arch laptop :P [20:58] I think it is 120gb Kilos [20:58] Slackware is there just because I haven't given it a whirl yet [20:58] * superfly is hoping insurance will agree to pay out R5000 for a new laptop [20:58] And I just filed my taxes, so I should get a nice return there... [20:58] oh my superfly was one stolen? [20:58] I am not clever enough for BSD, otherwise I wouldve tried FreeBSD again [20:58] Kilos: no, worse... I broke it :-( [20:59] thebearnado: PC-BSD [20:59] the mac? [20:59] how did you break it? [21:00] you normally fix things === thebearnado is now known as Gremble [21:28] Kilos: no, my netbook [21:28] eish superfly what happened [21:28] long story, en ek wil bed toe gaan [21:29] ok lekker slaap [21:29] im just making some things in minetest [22:03] night all. sleep tight