[00:01] <maxflax> jeff_1: Can't remember how I fixed it.
[00:01] <UBuxuBU> running ubuntu live now on a infected windows machine i want to scan the windows drive from the live ubuntu cd where do i fing the HDD
[00:01] <friendlyfascism> hans_, wont work how, little context helps, desktop, release you have xbacklight installed...etc
[00:02] <friendlyfascism> UBuxuBU, does it show with sudo parted -l
[00:02] <UBuxuBU> looking friendlyfascism
[00:03] <UBuxuBU> one moment
[00:03] <hans_> ok
[00:03] <friendlyfascism> UBuxuBU, You will never know if you fully cleaned it, a reload of an image/clone is the standard.
[00:03] <UBuxuBU> here is my issue friendlyfascism
[00:03] <jeff_1> Well, I reinstalled the driver and that seemed to fix the problem.
[00:04] <jeff_1> Very strange.
[00:04] <maxflax> jeff_1: yupp. think I did the same.
[00:04] <UBuxuBU> we tried to reinstall windows on the machine, tha machine cannot see its HDD anymore so windows will not install, so i ran ubutntu live dvd installed avast and now i want to try to kill the windows virus from the live ubuntu cd?
[00:04] <jeff_1> Well thank you!
[00:06] <UBuxuBU> is clam better for this purpose?
[00:06] <friendlyfascism> UBuxuBU, A virus should not hide the HD.
[00:06] <UBuxuBU> freakin avast wants a damn key now???
[00:06] <maxflax> UBuxuBU: Did you get a output from friendlyfascism command?
[00:06] <Maltahl> any help with my network-manager-pptp in ubuntu 14.04 ?
[00:06] <friendlyfascism> not from a ubuntu live anyway UBuxuBU
[00:06] <hans_> how can i ficks my brightness
[00:06] <UBuxuBU> ok then wheer is the darn this
[00:07] <UBuxuBU> we cant see it too scan it
[00:07] <friendlyfascism> UBuxuBU, See if it needs to be replugged, a bad cable...etc
[00:07] <UBuxuBU> i think the HDD has a broken firmware
[00:07] <UBuxuBU> its laptop
[00:07] <UBuxuBU> so its snug
[00:07] <UBuxuBU> no cables
[00:07] <friendlyfascism> so open the access
[00:07] <UBuxuBU> u still think might be loose in laptop case
[00:08] <UBuxuBU> it cant even move in htere
[00:08] <friendlyfascism> UBuxuBU, Not being seen by a live ubuntu is not a virus issue
[00:08] <UBuxuBU> these 2.5 with carriages cant even move
[00:08] <UBuxuBU> but we will look
[00:08] <friendlyfascism> UBuxuBU, Maybe its fried
[00:08] <UBuxuBU> i think it is
[00:09] <UBuxuBU> wont boot doze
[00:09] <UBuxuBU> doze installer says cant see HDD but yet the BIOS sees the HDD
[00:09] <UBuxuBU> so im not sure
[00:09] <friendlyfascism> UBuxuBU, we ask you use correct name for windows here.
[00:09] <UBuxuBU> doze wants me to slipstream a driver in
[00:09] <UBuxuBU> to see the HDD
[00:10] <Tha-Fox> I was able to upgrade my xbmcbuntu from 12.10 to 14.04. unfortunately in the process I lost wlan internet connection. lan (wireless) works just fine and I can ping other laptops behind the same router. other laptops are also able to get to the internet but this one says "network unreachable". I've rebooted the cable modem (works as router and wlan ap). I've also rebooted the laptop and made sure there is only one line in routing table to put everyt
[00:10] <UBuxuBU> i dont beleive any driver will fix it
[00:10] <friendlyfascism> sata? this XP? UBuxuBU
[00:10] <UBuxuBU> sata
[00:10] <UBuxuBU> yes
[00:10] <friendlyfascism> UBuxuBU, XP is eol.
[00:10] <UBuxuBU> thats why this BS about putting in a driver is BS
[00:10] <UBuxuBU> its w7
[00:10] <UBuxuBU> xp always had that issue
[00:10] <UBuxuBU> not w7
[00:10] <UBuxuBU> as far as i know
[00:10] <friendlyfascism> UBuxuBU, A ms certified W7 would have sata
[00:11] <UBuxuBU> well i got it from digital river so
[00:11] <UBuxuBU> i know its good
[00:11] <UBuxuBU> good clean w7 disk
[00:11] <friendlyfascism> UBuxuBU, NOt legit here or anywhere.
[00:11] <UBuxuBU> used it many times
[00:11] <UBuxuBU> and its goin in  a stock gateway laptop
[00:11] <UBuxuBU> no modifications
[00:11] <UBuxuBU> no reason to be missing a HDD driver on that w7 disk
[00:12] <UBuxuBU> so i thought i try to install ubuntu but it wont install either
[00:12] <UBuxuBU> so too me either the HDD id baked or the Mobo is fried
[00:12] <Tha-Fox> oh and I'm using static ip on this laptop and all the other use DHCP. there are no duplicate ip addresses, I checked that
[00:12] <OerHeks> UBuxuBU, nor really an Ubuntu issue, is it? join ##windows for that
[00:12] <UBuxuBU> well i wanna install buntu now may as well
[00:12] <UBuxuBU> but it wont install
[00:12] <BenMcLean> hey I'm trying to back up stuff from my laptop before changing out it's hard drive
[00:13] <BenMcLean> so i put ubuntu on a micro sd card and have booted from the card reader
[00:13] <friendlyfascism> Tha-Fox, Do a fresh install 12.10 is eol so is 13.04 and 13.10 will be in weeks.
[00:13] <BenMcLean> need to install Teamviewer to connect to my windows computer remotely
[00:14] <BenMcLean> but neither version that they provide seems to work. the 32 bit version complains i'm on the wrong architecture (i'm on amd64 instead of i386) and the 64 bit version complains about missing dependencies, which apparently were phased out of ubuntu. anything i could do you guys could maybe suggest? :)
[00:15] <friendlyfascism> Tha-Fox, That OSis not supported here either.
[00:15] <BenMcLean> oh wait, i found it. dpkg --add-architecture i386
[00:16] <BenMcLean> ok cool its working now
[00:17] <Tha-Fox> friendlyfascism: it is ubuntu 14.04 with xbmc installed as another package so I doubt it makes any difference? and I have 14.04, just upgraded it from 12.10
[00:17] <skilz> How do I look? http://postimg.org/image/udrfbgjg9/
[00:18] <friendlyfascism> skilz, Don't spam the channel
[00:18] <skilz> What is spam?
[00:18] <Salamaleicon> galera, boa noite, alguÃĐm conhece algum programa tipo FORMAT FACTORY para ubuntu 14.04 ?
[00:19] <Pici> !pt | Salamaleicon
[00:19] <skilz> I thought that is ham in a can?
[00:24] <Tha-Fox> my bad, I misread my routing table. it wasn't a default gateway, only for 192.168 network...
[00:24] <thezenguy> hello, i have a question or a request for feature.
[00:25] <friendlyfascism> !topic | thezenguy
[00:25] <thezenguy> thanks
[00:26] <friendlyfascism> thezenguy, This is support we have no attachment to features
[00:27] <thezenguy> gotcha
[00:28] <OerHeks> thezenguy,  you can file a bug request, ask for the feature and ask for the bug to be classified under [Wishlist].
[00:30] <edition> how to find what is locking "/org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio0"?
[00:30] <Maltahl> help i0 cannot connect to VPN with Ubuntu!!!
[00:31] <BenMcLean> got it finally
[00:33] <edition> qjackctl fails because a handler was already registered to "/org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio0
[00:33] <TJ-> Have we given up on libvirt/virt-manager in Trusty? I'm seeing all sorts of basic failures simply trying to create a default QEMU/KVM instance via virt-manager. First it was apparmor DENYing console chardev (fix: disable apparmor), now I'm seeing "hda-duplex not supported in this QEMU binary", and I've also seen "SATA is not supported with this QEMU binary", and "Unable to determine model for scsi controller".
[00:40] <edition> :/
[00:40] <edition> any suggestions?
[00:41] <edition> ive searched several askubuntu pages, tried everything...
[00:41] <edition> just need to find what is preventing jack from using"/org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio0"
[00:42] <SchrodingersScat> edition: /org/?
[00:42] <edition> no idea
[00:43] <edition> this error message is the main reason why jack will NOT start
[00:43] <edition> the internet wasn't helpful
[00:43] <BenMcLean> i have same deal as this guy about teamviewer now http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2166694
[00:43] <BenMcLean> except teamviewer 9
[00:44] <SchrodingersScat> edition: including this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2103946
[00:45] <edition> yes
[00:45] <edition> and the XRUNS, if it gets to run at all :/
[00:47] <edition> this is driving me to the drink. so frustrating.
[00:50] <john1978> Would anyone be able willing to help me with a problem with wifi? I am at a Panera BreadâĶI know my wifi works âĶI have used it at homeâĶbut here it wonât get to their redirect page to login.
[00:50] <edition> ifconfig?
[00:51] <edition> do you know the host or IP of the redirect page?
[00:52] <john1978> no i dont edition âĶ in mac or win it loads by itself
[00:52] <Ben64> might be a browser setting or a panera problem
[00:53] <edition> just want to see what is using "/org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio0"
[00:53] <john1978> i know paneraâs wifi is working because i am using it on another laptop to talk to you so i suspect it is a setting
[00:53] <john1978> any ideas which one or ones?
[00:56] <john1978> Does anyone have any ideas about the problem I am describing?
[00:57] <edition> john1978: I cant see your network, so... no idea
[00:57] <john1978> great
[00:57] <juboba> where can I find the ffmpeg codecs? I need to rip a dvd. Are they available in the gst-plugins-* packages?
[00:58] <edition> john1978: how did it work on windows?
[00:58] <edition> explain the procedure
[00:58] <john1978> Okay, to be clear, I am talking to you on a Macbook Pro I have with meâĶthe laptop that I want to get on the internet is a Thinkpad T42 running the most recent version of Lubuntu
[00:59] <edition> ah :)
[00:59] <john1978> Now, on the mac, or on windows for that matter,
[00:59] <friendlyfascism> juboba, What ubuntu release is this?
[00:59] <daftykins> john1978: please try and keep it to as few line as possible
[00:59] <edition> at what point did MS Windows tell you to provide authentication?
[01:00] <edition> or on your Macbook Pro?
[01:00] <juboba> friendlyfascism: 14.04
[01:00] <edition> juboba: don't forget libdvdcss!
[01:00] <john1978> when you connect to the Panera router, you open firefox and a redirect page pops up, you hit login (agreeing to their TOS) and then you are able to use the internetâĶon the Lubuntu machine, the router shows up but the redirect page doesnt popup when you open firefox
[01:00] <friendlyfascism> juboba, some info, http://askubuntu.com/questions/432542/is-ffmpeg-missing-from-the-official-repositories-in-14-04
[01:01] <edition> have you tried Handbrake?
[01:01] <juboba> thanks friendlyfascism edition
[01:01] <friendlyfascism> juboba, Are you converting the rip?
[01:02] <edition> john1978: have you tried curl, to see what response you get?
[01:02] <daftykins> john1978: try and hit a website
[01:03] <edition> could try nmap :)
[01:03] <juboba> friendlyfascism: it's a video we recorded with a camera
[01:03] <john1978> no thats a good idea :) i did try multiple websites through the browser with server not found
[01:03] <john1978> but i will try curl hold on
[01:03] <juboba> friendlyfascism: I want to get a mp4 or avi or whatever
[01:03] <juboba> format that I can upload and store.
[01:04] <edition> do you want direct FFMPEG conversion?
[01:04] <daftykins> john1978: has a proxy ever been used with said system?
[01:04] <john1978> curl isnt installed on this machine (its not my usual linux machine) and of course i cant apt-get because i cant connect
[01:04] <john1978> no it is a fresh install
[01:04] <Ben64> juboba: dvd to avi/mp4 is not an easy task. i just leave my stuff on dvd
[01:04] <Ben64> john1978: wget?
[01:05] <friendlyfascism> juboba, I use winff generally, I have no ffmpeg installed
[01:05] <friendlyfascism> not sure on a iso however
[01:05] <john1978> nothinâĶcan resolve host address..tried pinging yahoo too but got âunknown host"
[01:06] <Ben64> john1978: try going to http://173.194.120.105
[01:06] <juboba> uhm, I don't know much about video :(
[01:06] <edition> its better to use ffmpeg from the command line, or through a well-known Application
[01:06] <juboba> what's your suggestion?
[01:06] <Ben64> juboba: to not try ripping. you'll end up with a mediocre copy
[01:06] <juboba> edition: I wanted to use ffmpeg directly
[01:06] <edition> then get the FFMPEG build :)
[01:06] <edition> or use Handbrake
[01:06] <edition> handbrake.fr
[01:06] <juboba> Ben64: what should I use to convert the video then?
[01:07] <juboba> edition: everybody talks about handbrake, is it a gui app?
[01:07] <edition> yes.
[01:07] <juboba> uhm
[01:07] <juboba> ok
[01:07] <edition> good?
[01:07] <john1978> Ben 64: unable to connect to the ip
[01:07] <john1978> its google right
[01:08] <edition> "netstat -p tcp"
[01:08] <edition> tell me what you get
[01:08] <SchrodingersScat> edition: sometimes handbrake is ffmpeg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ffmpeg#Projects_using_FFmpeg
[01:08] <edition> its your choice, whether to use a GUI, or the ffmpeg executable.
[01:08] <john1978> edition: quite a bit, what am I looking for?
[01:09] <edition> pastebin
[01:09] <john1978> im not on that machine i cant. :) l
[01:09] <juboba> edition: but what about quality? I remember I could choose the quality using ffmpeg.
[01:10] <edition> the ffmpeg executable allows you to retain the same quality.
[01:10] <edition> its your choice :)
[01:11] <TJ-> john1978: Is basic DNS resolution working correctly? You can do things like "dig +short domain.tld" and get a valid IP result?
[01:12] <juboba> edition: ;) thanks!
[01:12] <edition> still have problems with "/org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio0"...
[01:12] <edition> still have problems with "/org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio0"...
[01:12] <john1978> TJ: it says no servers can be reacher
[01:12] <john1978> reached
[01:13] <edition> TJ: why use dig?
[01:14] <TJ-> john1978: So the router hasn't handed out a valid DNS server via DHCP at this point? Is the laptop receiving and accepting a DHCP OFFER (check "/var/lgo/syslog") ?
[01:14] <edition> just want the MIDI keyboard to work with QSynth :/
[01:14] <TJ-> john1978: typo! "/var/log/syslog"
[01:16] <john1978> TJ: The log in question is 18 lines longâĶmost of them say host name not found
[01:16] <daftykins> john1978: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" > /etc/resolv.conf
[01:17] <john1978> you mean type that in daftykins?
[01:17] <daftykins> yep
[01:17] <john1978> do i have to use sudo
[01:17] <daftykins> oh yeah
[01:18] <john1978> even with sudo it is saying permission denied
[01:19] <daftykins> hmm probably some nasty resolvconf quirkiness on there
[01:19] <john1978> brb
[01:20] <q_> i have downloaded   wine    and   notepad + +       i dont know how to the configure      wine
[01:20] <TJ-> john1978: you should see (in "/var/log/syslog") something similar to this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7801172/
[01:21] <john1978> I certainly do not.
[01:21] <daftykins> q_: you're really doing Linux wrong, trying to use WINE for a text editor.
[01:21] <q_>  i reather find a windows torrent but i cant find one
[01:22] <TJ-> john1978: Is the lubuntu machine connecting to the WiFi network at all?
[01:22] <hiimchris> if i want to use latest mesa drivers for an HD7850 from xorg-edgers fresh X crack, do i do anything beyond adding the PPA and apt-get update?
[01:22] <edition> why not Geany?
[01:22] <edition> theres plenty of text editors...
[01:22] <john1978> it would seem that it is notâĶhowever, as i mentioned above i have used it at my wifi at home without difficulty
[01:23] <TJ-> john1978: No Wifi explains your symptoms :)
[01:23] <john1978> it sees the router here but just wont connect
[01:23] <ObrienDave> could be at its set limit of connections
[01:24] <edition> this question would me marked down on stackexchange
[01:24] <edition> be
[01:24] <john1978> what do yo umean edition?
[01:25] <edition> its not clear.
[01:25] <john1978> you mean my question is not clear?
[01:25] <edition> sorry, but yes.
[01:25] <q_> does anyone  know how to configure wine
[01:25] <daftykins> !wine | q_
[01:25] <q_> i know
[01:25] <TJ-> john1978: what wifi chipset is in the Linux machine? Some older chipsets/drivers cannot support WPA/WPA2 for example
[01:26] <john1978> ummm, okay, what isnt clear about it?  my wireless clearly works because it works on other routersâĶthe wireless where i am presently clearly works because i am talking to you using it on a different laptop
[01:26] <q_> i know what it is i want to know how to set it up
[01:26] <ObrienDave> q_ why do you need WINE for a text editor? there are many good ones available
[01:26] <daftykins> q_: and it has the links and the channel to join, please make use of them.
[01:26] <john1978> TJ: I am not sure of the chipsetâĶ.however, I use WPA2 at home and it connects there.
[01:26] <q_> i just want to play this game
[01:26] <q_> is all
[01:27] <iamwhoiam> q_ : you want to install notepad++ or a game?
[01:27] <daftykins> ObrienDave: my troll alarm is ringing
[01:27] <john1978> Who is a troll?
[01:27] <TJ-> john1978: What WiFi band (2.4GHz 802.11b/g/n or 5.xGHz 802.11a), what WiFi authentication is in use right now by the *connected* client?
[01:27] <ObrienDave> daftykins, LOL so i c :))
[01:27] <TJ-> john1978: Can the Lubuntu machine *see* the Wifi network at all right now?
[01:28] <john1978> Yes, it sees it but when I click on it, it doesnât connectâĶlet me check on the band
[01:28] <john1978> 802.11 B
[01:28] <q_> i have wine installed i have notepad ++  installed i dont know how to make wine boot the game
[01:28] <ObrienDave> q_ which game? did you check on winehq to see if it even works under wine?
[01:28] <TJ-> john1978: OK... so work on solving that connection issue ... monitor syslog because wpa_supplicant will write messages there which should give you clues (e.g. "sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog")
[01:28] <q_> street rod
[01:29] <john1978> thanks TJ
[01:29] <john1978> i will do that
[01:29] <john1978> thanks for your help everyone
[01:29] <ubuntu_> Hello folks!
[01:29] <ObrienDave> q_ did you check on winehq to see if it even works under wine?
[01:29] <ubuntu_> Could someone help installing teamviewer please?
[01:29] <q_> can you do that
[01:30] <ObrienDave> you can
[01:30] <q_> so you saying if the game is not on the list  it will not work
[01:31] <ObrienDave> no, but you will find out if you need to do special things to wine
[01:31] <ObrienDave> http://www.winehq.org/
[01:31] <q_> what does notepad do anyways
[01:32] <ObrienDave> it's a programmers text editor
[01:32] <ObrienDave> notepad++ that is
[01:32] <hiimchris> if i want to use latest mesa drivers for an HD7850 from xorg-edgers fresh X crack, do i do anything beyond adding the PPA and apt-get update?
[01:33] <ObrienDave> daftykins, until proven otherwise..... ;P
[01:33] <fugiwara> hello
[01:34] <q_> do i need it for wine
[01:34] <ObrienDave> greetings and welcome fugiwara
[01:34] <ubuntu_> Could someone help installing teamviewer please?
[01:34] <fugiwara> Thank you
[01:34] <ObrienDave> q_ no, you don't NEED it for wine
[01:35] <q_> ok hold on i going to go delete every thing and i will come back for you step by step
[01:35] <ObrienDave> why?
[01:35] <q_> how to use wine
[01:36] <ObrienDave> look in winehq ask in #winehq
[01:36] <ObrienDave> this channel is NOT wine support
[01:36] <hiimchris> or just use playonlinux, does everything for you
[01:36] <q_> i tryed to read it it does compute to me
[01:38] <fugiwara> LOL.. someone has any link that help me on hoow to use Xchat?
[01:38] <ubuntu_> Could someone help installing teamviewer please?
[01:38] <ObrienDave> ask in #xchat channel
[01:38] <fugiwara> thanks
[01:39] <ObrienDave> fugiwara, better yet, get HexChat
[01:40] <fugiwara> ok, I'll find in the softwares list
[01:40] <TBotNik> All, On kubuntu 12.04 LTS. KDE Wallet is absolute trash, will not take my "sudo" password, will not take my "wifi" password and keeps wifi totally locked out on my laptop.  How do I remove this trash without damaging the system?  Tried straight up apt-get purge and blew up the system.
[01:41] <edition> is there a channel for developers?
[01:43] <ubuntu_> I am trying to follow this install process and it is failing on me :
[01:43] <fugiwara> One question regarding Ubuntu... I'm using the 12.04LTS and for Firefox and Midori always crash the Unity desktop manager... now I'm using Opera and until now I had any issue
[01:43] <ubuntu_> http://www.teamviewer.com/pt/help/363-How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution.aspx
[01:43] <fugiwara> there is something wrong with the kernel version or compatibility?]
[01:44] <TBotNik> All Repeating, On kubuntu 12.04 LTS. KDE Wallet is absolute trash, will not take my "sudo" password, will not take my "wifi" password and keeps wifi totally locked out on my laptop.  How do I remove this trash without damaging the system?  Tried straight up apt-get purge and blew up the system.
[01:53] <BenMcLean> what would be the best way to set up a file transfer between an Ubuntu and a Windows 7 PC over a NAT firewalled network?
[01:54] <edition> have you tried Samba?
[01:54] <BenMcLean> please note the NAT firewalled network part. setting up an FTP server is easy. dealing with a NAT firewall is hard
[01:55] <BenMcLean> edition, no. does samba have a way to run through a nat firewall?
[01:55] <TJ-> BenMcLean: Maybe create a point-to-point VPN and tunnel CIFS/SMB through it?
[01:55] <edition> no
[01:55] <edition> good point
[01:56] <BenMcLean> TJ do you know of a free VPN that will work thorugh a NAT firewall?
[01:56] <BenMcLean> I've been tryign to run Teamviewer because it works through NAT firewalls
[01:56] <BenMcLean> but it'll say connection failed when i try to connect
[01:57] <TJ-> BenMcLean: Best thing would be an HTTP tunnel if you have no control over the firewall
[02:00] <TJ-> BenMcLean: "httptunnel" is cross-platform, so can be installed on Windows and Linux hosts
[02:00] <fugiwara> hello guys,,, someone can help me with installation issues for ubuntu 14.04?
[02:00] <BenMcLean> TJ but can it get through a nat firewall?
[02:00] <fugiwara> (LTS)
[02:01] <BenMcLean> maybe i could use a crossover cable
[02:01] <BenMcLean> does that still work on modern OS?
[02:01] <TJ-> Ben64: gigabit ethernet does auto-MDI-X and many recent fast ethernet chipsets do, too
[02:02] <fugiwara> some expert on installation for ubuntu 14.04?
[02:06] <fugiwara> someone speaks spanish,portuguese?
[02:08] <ubuntu_> could someone help me install teamviewer please?
[02:10] <ObrienDave> !es | fugiwara
[02:10] <ObrienDave> !pt | fugiwara
[02:10] <webfox_> Hello, could someone help me to install Teamviewer application please?
[02:10] <fugiwara> you're amazing
[02:10] <fugiwara> thank you guys
[02:27] <CharlesIC> hi
[02:27] <CharlesIC> my hard drive has 192 bad sectors
[02:27] <CharlesIC> badblock secured them
[02:27] <CharlesIC> do i still need a new HD?
[02:28] <ObrienDave> only if the count gets much higher quickly. you might want to consider a new HDD anyway
[02:30] <webfox_> Hello, could someone help me to install Teamviewer application please?
[02:30] <baus> is it possible to install ubuntu on my 2011 15" macbook pro?
[02:30] <baus> it's model A1286
[02:30] <baus> thanks
[02:30] <webfox_> Hello, could someone help me to install Teamviewer application please?
[02:32] <MACscr> webfox_: no. Read the instructions
[02:32] <netameta> where can i find the time zone config in ubuntu ?
[02:32] <kostkon> !details | webfox_
[02:33] <ObrienDave> baus, yes, it's possible, i would think
[02:33] <MACscr> netameta: dpkg-reconfigureÂ tzdata
[02:33] <baus> i want to be like RMS
[02:33] <baus> a true american hero
[02:33] <baus> and go open source
[02:33] <netameta> MACscr this is a commend ?
[02:33] <ObrienDave> netameta, yes
[02:33] <MACscr> netameta: yes
[02:34] <q_> why an i not able to put in my password in terminal when im prompted to put it in
[02:34] <netameta> i got UnicodeEncodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't encode character '\udca0' in position 16: surrogates not allowed
[02:34] <netameta>  and a lot of other stuff
[02:35] <ObrienDave> q_ you will NOT see your password under sudo
[02:35] <ObrienDave> q_ security concern
[02:35] <q_> i type it in and it enterit say sorry does not work
[02:36] <ObrienDave> then it's the wrong password
[02:36] <q_> no i hit the rite password i oly use the number 1
[02:38] <q_> is their a way to change the passsword for terminal
[02:38] <ObrienDave> it's the same as your user login password
[02:39] <q_> it works for me to get back in after my screen shut downs
[02:39] <q_> but when i do my password in terminal it does  not do nothing
[02:40] <ObrienDave> afaik, not possible to have different password for term
[02:47] <ObrienDave> afaik, not possible to have different password for sudo
[02:47] <q_> i guess it was one of those famous ubuntu  glitches
[02:48] <ObrienDave> pebcak ;P
[02:53] <q_> ok who would like to give the stupid ass  (  ME  )  directions on how to  wine  so i can play   STREET ROD    thank you
[02:54] <Blue1> !wine >q_
[02:54] <edition> double click streetrod.exe :)
[02:55] <q_> i tryed to read everything to no matter what i do i dont get it
[02:56] <q_> hold on
[02:56] <javier_1> hi, does anyone knows how to install bluegriffon on ubuntu 14.04?
[03:00] <ObrienDave> q_ according to http://appdb.winehq.org/ there are 21,000+ apps listed. street rod is NOT one of them
[03:00] <desnaike> javier_1 try http://nixmash.com/linux/how-to-install-blue-griffon-in-ubuntu-and-linux-mint/
[03:03] <grepwood> hi everyone
[03:03] <grepwood> I got a really quick question, because I can't download the entire ubuntu iso
[03:03] <caboose_m_j> hi the system monitor shows the usage % of my CPU, is there something tat will show the same data for my GPU(s) ?
[03:03] <ObrienDave> greetings and welcome
[03:03] <grepwood> does Ubuntu use /etc/ubuntu_version or /etc/debian_version?
[03:03] <kmitchell> hey my sound isn't working... what's the terminal command to open sound properties?
[03:04] <ObrienDave> kmitchell, alsamixer
[03:06] <ObrienDave> grepory, i have debian_version in /etc
[03:06] <ObrienDave> contents show jessie/sid
[03:07] <ObrienDave> grepwood, sorry
[03:08] <q_> do you want me to   im    you varunendra
[03:14] <sydney> caboose_m_j: I never knew it was possible??!!
[03:14] <grepwood> ObrienDave, are you on 12.04 or newer?
[03:15] <ObrienDave> 14.04
[03:15] <grepwood> oh great
[03:15] <grepwood> thanks :)
[03:15] <ObrienDave> Xubuntu, don't know if that would make a difference
[03:18] <eN_Joy> i heard ipsec/l2tp is faster than openvpn, anyone has experience installing it? one thing i have not figured out it how do i configure it to listen on 53/TCP?
[03:18] <q_> obriendave    did you  say you wanted me to  I M   you like 10 minutes ago
[03:19] <ObrienDave> ummm, no, i don't think so
[03:19] <q_> TY
[03:20] <q_> is their a way to change my color  lettering in this chat room
[03:20] <q_> i hate gray
[03:20] <sydney> q_: you show as blue over here
[03:20] <sydney> purple*
[03:22] <q_> i type out in gray
[03:23] <q_> so when i type in the box how come im gray
[03:23] <q_> and on the screen
[03:23] <ObrienDave> your colors are set that way
[03:24] <q_> ty
[03:24] <q_> obi
[03:24] <caboose_m_j> i'm having a problem, trovi got a hold of my 'chrome' browser through windows on my separated ssd.  i cant find chrome on my ubuntu software center. i need to uninstall it. please help me find it? i downloaded it through firefox not through the softwaremanager. i am running ubuntu 14.04
[03:24] <caboose_m_j> trovi is a malware bug that takes over browsers and forces them to run the trovi search
[03:25] <q_> god i hate that
[03:25] <caboose_m_j> aparently it spreads across drives as well
[03:25] <caboose_m_j> yeah its a btch
[03:25] <q_> call osoma
[03:25] <sydney> caboose_m_j: you want to remove it?
[03:25] <caboose_m_j> freggen dtd's downloaded transmitted diseases
[03:26] <caboose_m_j> yeah syd, i think i will tryone thing before, one minute
[03:26] <caboose_m_j> brb
[03:26] <sydney> caboose_m_j: Please watch your language,this is a family friendly channel. ;)
[03:27] <lacrymology> is there a way for me to set up additional DNS servers for all present *and future* connections?
[03:28] <sydney> caboose_m_j: I think its 'sudo apt-get remove google-chrome-stable' if you have the stable version. ;)
[03:29] <q_> can i  i m  someone with help on how to install wine please
[03:30] <TJ-> q_: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[03:30] <q_> i read that it dont help me
[03:30] <edition> if apt fails, get the package directly
[03:30] <q_> tj
[03:31] <TJ-> q_: It tells how to install wine
[03:32] <caboose_m_j> thank you sydney, i got it, i did it thorugh settings, that damned trovi, sneaky man. it got in and changed my settings in 2 i think even 3 different places, i reset chrome to defaults and now i have returned it to my safe settings, thanks though, this helpped
[03:32] <sydney> caboose_m_j: :D
[03:32] <q_>  i know how to install by running apt get
[03:33] <q_> but after that im stompt
[03:33] <q_> on how to make it work
[03:33] <boxinsideabox> Heya!
[03:33] <boxinsideabox> :D
[03:33] <q_> hi
[03:34] <boxinsideabox> I have a quick question..
[03:34] <sydney> q_: What are you tyrying to do with wine?
[03:34] <boxinsideabox> If after using Ubuntu and I want to uninstall it due to my computer, how can I?
[03:34] <q_> trying to play my favorite game
[03:34] <q_> one of them
[03:35] <edition> did you use aptitude?
[03:35] <caboose_m_j> alright it did well. surprising ubuntu did better with the trovi violation than windows did.. windows let it into every single browser i have, except the one in the home area, but meaybe its still there and i havent found it. here in ubuntu i onyl got it attacked on one of my chrome users. it diddnt spread to the rest. thanks ubuntu.
[03:35] <q_> i been trying for  a week now
[03:35] <edition> how did you install it?
[03:35] <sydney> q_: can you right click on the .exe,and select open with wine program somthing...
[03:35] <caboose_m_j> it would have been nice if that crappy malware wouldnt have been able to get in in thefirst place, but i guess thats the price of using windows.
[03:36] <caboose_m_j> is there a way to lock down my hdd from any posible windows os access?
[03:36] <q_> i dont know what i used to download it i just got ridof it and now in going to re install it
[03:36] <q_> from stratch
[03:37] <sydney> q_: install from Ubuntu software center?
[03:37] <sydney> is simplest ;)
[03:38] <caboose_m_j> can i encrypt my hdd post ubuntu intall? to prevent any possible access outside my own pw?
[03:38] <caboose_m_j> install*
[03:38] <caboose_m_j> may*(
[03:39] <TJ-> caboose_m_j: From the running system? Effectively no. From a live ISO boot, easy only if you have double the space - there is no tool to do  encrypt on-the-fly conversion
[03:40] <edition> is there an command like this "cadence-session-start -s", for xubuntu?
[03:40] <caboose_m_j> thank you TJ- i suspected that, but a guy can hope :)
[03:41] <caboose_m_j> i might reinstall, but not yet, i'll do it after i have actual info to protect
[03:41] <TJ-> caboose_m_j: There are ways - manually - and it can be done, even live, but it takes discipline and care
[03:41] <caboose_m_j> thanks TJ- for now i think it will be ok. unless you have a command list?
[03:41] <caboose_m_j> something reliable?
[03:41] <caboose_m_j> i am a terminal newb
[03:42] <caboose_m_j> i know sudo apt-get install, remove, update&&...upgrade a very little tiny exposure to directory stuff, i dotn remember
[03:43] <TJ-> caboose_m_j: If you installed it with the LVM option, you can do it by shrinking the LV, creating a duplicate, encrypting that, formatting it, take a snapshot of the running LV, then cloning the snapshot to the encrypted, and finally fixing up the boot config to unlock/mount the encrypted LV
[03:43] <caboose_m_j> yea i remember using the logical setting
[03:43] <TJ-> caboose_m_j: But even experienced sysadmins are going to take their time doing that :)
[03:43] <edition> is there an command like this "cadence-session-start -s", for xubuntu?
[03:43] <caboose_m_j> lost me at the fixing up the boot config
[03:44] <caboose_m_j> thanks TJ- you just made me feel smarter
[03:44] <caboose_m_j> i mean i know i don't know so much but i think i could have handled it until the fixing up the config
[03:45] <caboose_m_j> never heard of it edition
[03:45] <caboose_m_j> im new though
[03:46] <caboose_m_j> ok thanks TJ- gtg :)
[03:47] <TJ-> caboose_m_j: Think about the alternate way to do it... if what you want to protect is *just* your /home/$USER/ then you could create an additional LV for "/home/", encrypt that, and then switch the 'fstab' to use it - do you need to encrypt the entire Linux installation or just your own documents - in which case, an encrypted home might be sufficient
[03:56] <CharlesIC> hi
[03:56] <CharlesIC> my hard drive has 192 bad sectors
[03:56] <CharlesIC> badblock secured them
[03:57] <CharlesIC> do i still need a new HD?
[03:57] <CharlesIC> i missed some of the earlier responses
[04:01] <BenMcLean> I used the linux live USB creator on Windows to put ubuntu studio on a usb stick, but the persistene feature does not work
[04:01] <BenMcLean> *persistence
[04:02] <BenMcLean> Files saved on the system don't persist on next boot.
[04:02] <BenMcLean> Does anyone know of a way to do this properly so that files saved remain on next boot?
[04:02] <Ben64> CharlesIC: yes, most likely you need a new drive
[04:03] <Ben64> BenMcLean: try using unetbootin or something like that instead
[04:04] <BenMcLean> Ben64 does unetbootin have persistence?
[04:05] <Ben64> BenMcLean: has an option for it
[04:06] <BenMcLean> OK I will try it thanks.
[04:12] <colin_> hiã
[04:21] <UltimaKR> Hi I was having trouble installing lubuntu 14.04...everything seemed fine but when I booted I got a grub _ term _ highlight _ color not found error..how do I fix this?
[04:22] <friendlyfascism> UltimaKR, What was the trouble?
[04:22] <UltimaKR> friendlyfacism: my problem is that grub error when I boot the computer
[04:24] <sydney> UltimaKR: are ou dual booting?
[04:24] <sydney> you*
[04:24] <friendlyfascism> UltimaKR, seems to be part of a bug, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2219481
[04:24] <UltimaKR> sydney: yes...windows xp is the primary os and lubuntu will be the second one
[04:26] <sydney> UltimaKR: have you tried running a boot-repair?
[04:26] <sydney> from a live cd?
[04:26] <friendlyfascism> UltimaKR, Do you know how to chroot?
[04:26] <UltimaKR> friendlyfacism: in that forum thread, how are they doing this fix from the live cd?
[04:26] <UltimaKR> sydney: my lubuntu is coming off a livecd
[04:27] <UltimaKR> friendlyfacism:I don't
[04:27] <friendlyfascism> UltimaKR, The user has a uefi setup, can we clear that you do not?
[04:27] <colin_> hi,when i type ctrl +alt +f2 .i got black screen and there is no commend line.
[04:28] <AlanWatts> colin_: check /etc/inittab
[04:28] <colin_> anyone can help me?
[04:28] <AlanWatts> or press enter
[04:28] <sydney> colin_: how about any other,such as ctrl+alt+f1,or f3?
[04:28] <AlanWatts> I am in Sydney
[04:28] <colin_> f1 is same..
[04:28] <UltimaKR> friendlyfacism: I don't think so but I'm very new at this so not too familiar with uefi and all hat
[04:29] <sydney> AlanWatts: Sydney,Australia?
[04:29] <friendlyfascism> UltimaKR, Can you pastebin sudo parted -l
[04:29] <UltimaKR> colin_: are you looking for the terminal?
[04:29] <AlanWatts> sydney: yepp
[04:29] <sydney> AlanWatts: Cool :D
[04:29] <sydney> Goodnight all!!
[04:30] <friendlyfascism> UltimaKR, Plenty of helpers here can we focus on your issue?
[04:30] <colin_> UltimaKR: im trying to close x server and install nvidia driver
[04:30] <UltimaKR> friendlyfacism: pastebin how? I can't boot anything
[04:30] <friendlyfascism> UltimaKR, The live lubuntu?
[04:31] <replr> lol
[04:31] <UltimaKR> friendlyfacism: you mean by going into the try lubuntu option?
[04:31] <colin_> AlanWatts: im not good at linux..enter is not help .so what can i do for checking inittab?
[04:31] <friendlyfascism> UltimaKR, Yes we would fix this from there.
[04:31] <UltimaKR> friendlyfacism: ah ok thanks let me give that a try
[04:33] <friendlyfascism> UltimaKR, We will need web access when we chroot in as well.
[04:34] <colin_> UltimaKRïži need to close the x server at login screen.so i have to find the terminal. i mean open the terminal at login screen
[04:34] <colin_> ubuntu
[04:34] <colin_> ubuntu
[04:34] <friendlyfascism> colin_, Try the terminal in the recovery
[04:35] <UltimaKR> friendlyfacism: I have wireless connectivity already from the install so that should be fine
[04:35] <colin_> ubuntu ask says ctrl +alt +f2
[04:35] <colin_> oh,thanks
[04:36] <friendlyfascism> colin_, You could do a nomodeset boot then go to a tty from the login as well.
[04:36] <friendlyfascism> maybe
[04:36] <friendlyfascism> colin_, nomodeset might get you a working desktop to do this from
[04:42] <friendlyfascism> UltimaKR, When you get to the desktop run sudo parted -l and pastebin all of the info.
[04:42] <friendlyfascism> !pastebin | UltimaKR
[04:55] <CharlesIC> Ben64, hi
[04:55] <CharlesIC> do you have a min?
[04:57] <jethisoon> i plan to switch distrtos from linux mint 17 xfce to lubuntu 14.04 by formatting the / partition. do u see any problem with that?
[04:58] <friendlyfascism> jethisoon, This a debian or ubuntu mint?
[04:59] <Abhijit> jethisoon, devil is in the detail.
[04:59] <jethisoon> ubuntu mint.
[05:00] <friendlyfascism> jethisoon, YOu have a seperate home right?
[05:00] <jethisoon> yes
[05:01] <friendlyfascism> jethisoon, Probably okay, theoretically sounds okay
[05:01] <friendlyfascism> you will still have your stuff anyway if it fails
[05:04] <jethisoon> im concerned abt d grub not loading correctly on a dual boot pc.
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> jethisoon: did you try an update-grub ?
[05:07] <friendlyfascism> jethisoon, After the ubuntu install?
[05:07] <jethisoon> no. but my linux mint installation is all upgraded.
[05:07] <friendlyfascism> jethisoon, What is the windows release? Is it a uefi bios?
[05:08] <jethisoon> win xp
[05:08] <friendlyfascism> jethisoon, One HD?
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> !mint | jethisoon
[05:09] <friendlyfascism> lotuspsychje, They are replacing with ubuntu
[05:09] <jethisoon> yes
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> ah ok
[05:09] <jethisoon> yes one hd
[05:09] <friendlyfascism> jethisoon, With a / install you will do it manually just be sure grub is pointed at the mbr you will be fine.
[05:10] <friendlyfascism> jethisoon, Don't overwrite home is all.
[05:11] <jethisoon> will lubuntu install ask me where to place grub??
[05:12] <friendlyfascism> jethisoon, In the something other option the manual install the first gui has a dropdown for grub you want just the mbr no partitions.
[05:12] <friendlyfascism> most likely sda
[05:13] <tmick> Quoexl here?
[05:16] <jethisoon> FRIENDLY please put periods or commas in your second to d last answer.
[05:17] <tmick> What
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> jethisoon: make your life easy and install ubuntu 14.04 clean, no mint, no windows :p
[05:17] <friendlyfascism> jethisoon, Your here for help you can't even get my nick right and your preaching grammar on me, lol, welcome to ignore.
[05:19] <friendlyfascism> jethisoon, Your post are not all that correct in a grammar sense, if you do not understand state it.
[05:20] <jethisoon> no im not preaching grammar or anything. its just that its not clear.
[05:24] <jethisoon> thank you very much friendlyfascism
[05:25] <jethisoon> for the help.
[05:25] <thefakeazned525> Yo
[05:26] <thefakeazned525> Someone running trusty claims to not be able to download hexchat from universe
[05:26] <friendlyfascism> !info hexchat
[05:26] <thefakeazned525> They claimed that they had to enable the hexchat ppa
[05:26] <friendlyfascism> thefakeazned525, Were they updated?
[05:27] <friendlyfascism> it's there
[05:27] <thefakeazned525> As in upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 LTS?
[05:27] <meganerd> installed just fine for me without a PPA
[05:27] <thefakeazned525> I checked that it was there too, but they say it didn't work
[05:27] <friendlyfascism> thefakeazned525> As in upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 LTS? Not really relative
[05:28] <thefakeazned525> What do you mean by updated?
[05:28] <friendlyfascism> thefakeazned525, sudo apt-get update  to have the servers synced
[05:29] <friendlyfascism> thefakeazned525, THis third party stuff is a waste of time they have a installation why are you here?
[05:29] <friendlyfascism> their user error somewhere
[05:30] <thefakeazned525> Er... They refuse to come here, plus I want to report this as a possible bug
[05:30] <thefakeazned525> And they installed no less than 10 minutes ago
[05:32] <thefakeazned525> Hmm, I think its an archive error
[05:32] <thefakeazned525> But yeah, thanks for the help
[05:50] <jellow> Hi there , I'm trying to mount a lvm2 snapshot to /media/snap ,  Yet get an error from mount that it is the wrong fs type
[05:54] <jellow> Here is info on my lvm and partition setup http://pastie.org/9395612
[05:58] <colin_> hiïžanyone know how to set the external screenïž
[05:59] <Abhijit> colin_, just connect the wire?
[05:59] <colin_> doesn't work...
[05:59] <Abhijit> colin_, explain.
[06:00] <colin_> the other is black screen...and i can not set it in the setting..even can not find it.
[06:01] <Abhijit> colin_, are you sure its power on? keep it powered on and restart ubuntu. it will detect. most probably.
[06:01] <colin_> i tried...
[06:02] <Abhijit> colin_, are you sure the cable in tightly connected while you restarted?
[06:02] <colin_> yes...it works on win8.
[06:02] <Abhijit> colin_, which graphics card, ubuntu version and monitor name?
[06:02] <Abhijit> and which cable? hdmi ?
[06:02] <colin_> nvidia 750ti ,ubuntu version is 14.4
[06:03] <conmix> hi
[06:04] <Abhijit> colin_, unity/gnome/kde?
[06:04] <colin_> Abhijitïžnoãit is vga..
[06:04] <Abhijit> unity.
[06:05] <colin_> -.-im not sure...i just download from office site..
[06:05] <colin_> gnome?
[06:05] <Abhijit> colin_, do "xrandr" in terminal and use paste.ubuntu.com to paste the output
[06:05] <Abhijit> while the other monitor is connected that is.
[06:05] <Abhijit> and powered on.
[06:06] <colin_> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[06:06] <Abhijit> colin_, is this a laptop?
[06:06] <colin_> no...pc..
[06:07] <colin_> sorry.i did not say that before-.-
[06:07] <CodePulsar> Can I use Skype on any other client than Skype ?
[06:08] <colin_> do i need to download lastest driver from nvidia website?
[06:08] <Abhijit> colin_, when did you downloaded this ubuntu?
[06:08] <colin_> just few days
[06:09] <Abhijit> colin_, okey. so do sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and then see if it solves the error. restart pc while both monitor are powered on and wire connected properly. if still same issue, then make sure to install correct nvidia driver for your card.
[06:10] <Abhijit> colin_, also connect both monitor to nvidia card port only. do not do one monitor to graphics card port and one to motherboard port.
[06:10] <colin_> oh,thanks . im going to try.
[06:10] <colin_> yes,they are connect to the card now
[06:11] <Abhijit> colin_, good. now execute these 3 commands i gave you above, one by one.
[06:11] <colin_> system is updating.after finishing.i will do what you said.thanks
[06:14] <Abhijit> where can i get the mini iso of ubuntu 10.04?
[06:14] <Abhijit> or can i get it?
[06:16] <Abhijit> mini iso for 10.04 is not listed here http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04.4/ where can i get one?
[06:17] <Abhijit> nvm.
[06:18] <goom> k
[06:30] <soee> hi when using zip command, how can i axclude folders that starts with: _ ?
[06:39] <friendlyfascism> Abhijit, what is your end goal?
[06:40] <Abhijit> friendlyfascism, nothing. i found the iso.
[06:40] <friendlyfascism> Abhijit, And your aware the desktop is eol right?
[06:40] <Abhijit> friendlyfascism, yes.
[06:41] <friendlyfascism> cool
[06:42] <CodePulsar> soee: "^[^_].*"
[06:42] <CodePulsar> soee: err, "^[^_]+"
[06:44] <conmix> ?
[06:54] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> does anyone know of a better application for pdf files other than evince?
[06:54] <daipeng> I use emacs to view pdf
[06:55] <daipeng> it is great, but some time fails when meet a great size pdf file
[06:57] <Guest2000> any ssh expert here
[07:00] <Ben64> Guest2000: just ask your question
[07:00] <Abhijit> !ask | Guest2000
[07:01] <Guest2000> Ben64: Can i just use a key instead of path/to/identity_file i mean something like that "ssh my_Key user@host"
[07:01] <Guest2000> Ben64: i mean just simple encrypted key no path to file
[07:02] <Guest2000> Abhijit: hey i mentioned my problem above
[07:02] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> emacs = no
[07:02] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> anyone know of a really good pdf reader?
[07:02] <Guest2000> Abhijit: Can i just use a key instead of path/to/identity_file i mean something like that "ssh my_Key user@host"
[07:03] <Guest2000> ubottu: Can i just use a key instead of path/to/identity_file i mean something like that "ssh my_Key user@host"
[07:03] <Ben64> Guest2000: you don't need to highlight every user
[07:03] <Guest2000> Ben64: i'm new to this things sorry
[07:03] <neo1691> Hello everyone. If I want to connect to the internet, I am supposed to use a proxy. The proxy works well on the browser, but it wont work with terminal apps. I have set the proxy as a variable called http_proxy="<proxy>:<port>/" and also in /etc/apt.conf OR /etc/apt.conf.d/proxy80 as Acquire::htto::proxy "<proxy>:<port>/";
[07:04] <Ben64> Guest2000: and it seems like you just want the path to identity file, whats the problem with that
[07:05] <Guest2000> Ben64: i want to execute ssh command from a external programme on some other client PC ! and he does not have identity_file
[07:05] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> PDF
[07:07] <neo1691> I am not even aple to do apt-get update
[07:08] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> isnt it sudo apt-get update ?
[07:08] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> if not using root
[07:08] <neo1691> using root GuyThatNeedsHelp
[07:08] <amadey78> hi
[07:09] <edition> hey, is there a way of using aptitude, without root?
[07:09] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :neo1691 Any errors?
[07:09] <neo1691> Hello everyone. If I want to connect to the internet, I am supposed to use a proxy. The proxy works well on the browser, but it wont work with terminal apps. I have set the proxy as a variable called http_proxy="<proxy>:<port>/" and also in /etc/apt.conf OR /etc/apt.conf.d/proxy80 as Acquire::htto::proxy "<proxy>:<port>/";
[07:09] <amadey78> how can i recovery /tmp dir after server reboot
[07:09] <neo1691> GuyThatNeedsHelp: ^^
[07:10] <zt> hi a admin online?
[07:10] <h8> admin off?
[07:10] <zt> ?
[07:11] <h8> what kind of an admin?
[07:11] <zt> were can i get a free shell or znc ?
[07:11] <h8> lol, this is not undernet
[07:12] <zt> :|
[07:12] <h8> zt: buy one, it's that easy
[07:12] <zt> go away! is that easy
[07:13] <h8> well you came here... thinking free stuff are just so easy to find (:
[07:13] <h8> you're all welcome :P
[07:14] <neo1691> lol
[07:17] <sennn> hello
[07:18] <Joseph_> Hi
[07:18] <Joseph_> we are not able to install nova-compute on Ubuntu 14.04
[07:19] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7802165/
[07:19] <Joseph_> can you pls help me to out ?
[07:19] <Joseph_> i psend much time , its seems some kind of bug with 14.04
[07:20] <Ben64> try a different mirror, then sudo apt-get update
[07:20] <Joseph_> Kindly help
[07:21] <Joseph_> this is server , not sure  how do we change the mirror
[07:21] <bekks> Joseph_: Which bug? Which exact error message?
[07:21] <bekks> And why do you want to change the mirror?
[07:22] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7802165/
[07:22] <Joseph_> can you pls open that link
[07:23] <bekks> Joseph_: you could try to run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nova-compute"
[07:24] <Joseph_> yes
[07:24] <Joseph_> i was tried same
[07:26] <bekks> Joseph_: Was the exact output now?
[07:26] <nochtadh27> baldrini
[07:28] <Joseph_> same error
[07:28] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7802165/
[07:33] <Joseph_> any thought please ?
[07:35] <webmind> i want breakfast
[07:35] <Joseph_> its some kind of mirror issues ?
[07:35] <bekks> Joseph_: Looks like it is. You could try changing the mirror in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:36] <Joseph_> could you please share any link to change , i  know this is basic level . yet i am new with server
[07:37] <Joseph_> this link will help ?
[07:37] <Joseph_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me-or-choose-a-faster-mirror
[07:38] <bekks> Joseph_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[07:39] <Joseph_> your link will help for ubuntu 14.04 ?
[07:42] <rabbit1982> :O
[07:49] <amadey78> did centos make some crash dump after kernel panic or something else?
[07:49] <bekks> amadey78: Thats a good question for the centos support.
[07:57] <eoin> Is it possible to boot a computer from cold over the net?
[07:57] <enchilado> No
[07:57] <bekks> OF course.
[07:57] <DJones> eoin: I'd look into wake on lan
[07:58] <bekks> That mechanism is called PXE.
[08:00] <eoin> ok was thinking of buying a new router opening it up putting in a raspberry pi and soldering the ethernet one of the ports inside the router case then selling it on ebay and see where it goes
[08:00] <reisio> ...
[08:00] <enchilado> Depends what you mean by "from cold"
[08:00] <enchilado> There needs to be some part of the computer turned on to recieve the packet
[08:01] <reisio> you could just hack the router itself...
[08:01] <reisio> which is what you'd have to do anyways
[08:01] <Joseph_> just i notice current source list have the all the info
[08:01] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7802304/
[08:01] <enchilado> eoin: you'd be better of with a tracking device that had a battery I think
[08:01] <Joseph_> do we really need to change ?
[08:02] <bekks> Joseph_: For changing the mirror used, you have to change the mirror to be used.
[08:03] <tyfon> hi, anyone know how to turn off 3d so i can run ubuntu 13.10 in kvm?
[08:03] <tyfon> right now it takes like 20 seconds to open a window inside the vm
[08:03] <eoin> not really just want to use it as a cheap VPN
[08:05] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7802314/
[08:05] <Joseph_> :)
[08:09] <Delta5130> oi
[08:09] <Delta5130> Tem alguÃĐm fera no linux ubuntu que pode me ajudar
[08:10] <DJones> !pt | Delta5130
[08:11] <Amaze-balls> Good Morning
[08:12] <Delta5130> Can you help me
[08:12] <friendlyfascism> Delta5130, Post it in english
[08:15] <Delta5130> Help me please. Using a proxy in firefox but does not work icedtea web, already configured proxy throughout the ubuntu system / network / network proxy panel and also set up in icedtea web control panel / network and nothing. Someone help me please, I thank you!
[08:17] <Delta5130> hi
[08:17] <Delta5130> help me please
[08:17] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7802337/
[08:17] <Joseph_> something i am doing wrong
[08:17] <bcvery> !patience | Delta5130
[08:17] <friendlyfascism> Delta5130, Have patience and no help me please.
[08:19] <Delta5130> ok excuse me
[08:20] <friendlyfascism> Joseph_, open software & updates click in the first tab download from-other than select best server.
[08:20] <Joseph_> sorry this is server 14.04
[08:23] <friendlyfascism> Joseph_, find a mirror here and use the terminal to change you list. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[08:23] <friendlyfascism> your*
[08:23] <conmix> quit
[08:25] <Mathisen> hello .. what is the best way to share internet from a desktop computer to a android phone by usb cable
[08:25] <reisio> Mathisen: not
[08:26] <Mathisen> ?
[08:26] <edition> does GTK themes work on xubuntu?
[08:27] <k1l_> Mathisen: use cm11 and ubuntu and that will work ootb
[08:27] <helmut_> hi
[08:28] <Delta5130> Because icedtea does not work when use proxy ubuntu?
[08:28] <Mathisen> k1l_ i have cyanogenmod already so its just to plug it in on my ubuntu machine and it will work strait away ?
[08:28] <Delta5130> I use the ubuntu 13.10
[08:28] <Mathisen> no need to change anything in ubuntu ?
[08:29] <bcvery> Delta5130, 13.10 is EOL
[08:29] <bcvery> ...and no longer supported
[08:29] <k1l_> Mathisen: ah wait, you mean from the pc to the phone or from phone to pc?
[08:30] <bcvery> Delta5130...ignore that - no it's not until tomorrow
[08:30] <Mathisen> pc to phone
[08:30] <Delta5130> the icedtea does not work when use proxy in ubuntu
[08:35] <conmix> 1
[08:36] <Delta5130> my java does not work when use proxy in ubuntu
[08:39] <k1l_> !away > jibran|afk
[08:39] <k1l_> Mathisen: just test it, it dont know if that way works
[08:42] <jibran|afk> k1l_: ?
[08:42] <k1l_> jibran|afk: see the bots message in pm please
[08:42] <jibran|afk> k1l_: I have no away msg
[08:42] <k1l_> its about the nickchanges, too
[08:44] <Mathisen> /away works fine :)
[08:52] <sennn> fedora is better than ubuntu  now!
[08:52] <friendlyfascism> sennn, opinions are subjective and that is offtopic.
[08:55] <sennn> f**k
[08:55] <friendlyfascism> take your meds you will feel better
[08:59] <punkgeek> can i ecrypting ubuntu like android?
[09:02] <captn3m0> Quick question: Why is there no quantal or raring directory at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[09:02] <bcvery> captn3m0, both are EOL
[09:02] <DJones> captn3m0: Its because they're both end of life
[09:03] <DJones> captn3m0: When they reach end of life and support stops, the repo's get removed
[09:03] <captn3m0> so, you can't even install any supported package or anything?
[09:03] <bekks> captn3m0: There is no supported package anymore for quantal/raring.
[09:04] <DJones> captn3m0: Thats the point, there aren't any supported packages anymore for those releases
[09:05] <k1l_> captn3m0: if you want to run the releases long time start with the LTS releases in first place.
[09:05] <captn3m0> oh, I'm on an LTS release. It was just a docker image that I was using
[09:06] <captn3m0> filed a Pull Request to update it to precise
[09:09] <captn3m0> thanks a lot
[09:11] <Gu_______> !ubuntu-server
[09:11] <jethisoon> hi i was trying to replace the installed distro which is linux mint 17 with lubuntu 14.04 so i clicked on something else which is manual install but lubuntu installation wont let me check reformat and only the minus button at the bottom is highlighted. so what might have happened if i presed that minus button? will itr wipe the / partition so i can install lubuntu? which is what i want. or will it be gone entirely?
[09:11] <edition> ?
[09:13] <rubic> What does dd'ing the ubuntu ISO to a usb actually do? does it insert the files into a partition? or ignore the old contents completely and write a new partition table and new partition with ubuntu in it. I ask this because when I open my USB in gparted it cant figure out if uses a GPT or MBR, and Im trying to figure out why.
[09:15] <blurkis> rubic,   dd writes byte for byte, that is, it writes what ever you put into it. an iso has a filesystem in its own, so dd writes that to the usb.
[09:16] <jethisoon> hi i was trying to replace the installed distro which is linux mint 17 with lubuntu 14.04 so i clicked on something else which is manual install but lubuntu installation wont let me check reformat and only the minus button at the bottom is highlighted. so what might have happened if i presed that minus button? will it wipe the / partition so i can install lubuntu? which is what i want. or will it be gone entirely?
[09:17] <blurkis> rubic, so it ignores the content on the usb, writes the iso as is irectly to the usb
[09:19] <rubic> Ok, thanks, now that I think about it how does the ISO accomodate for both EFI and MBR booting? Is some sort of 'hack' used by the ISO to contain both and that's gparted is confused?
[09:19] <rubic> why gparted is confused*
[09:21] <bipul> I need to know the reason behind getting this error. And how should i fix it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7802547/
[09:21] <jethisoon> hi i was trying to replace the installed distro which is linux mint 17 with lubuntu 14.04 so i clicked on something else which is manual install but lubuntu installation wont let me check reformat and only the minus button at the bottom is highlighted. so what might have happened if i presed that minus button? will it wipe the / partition so i can install lubuntu? which is what i want. or will it be gone entirely?
[09:22] <krasnayarsk> bipul: its a 404 not found. I don't think its anything to do with you.
[09:24] <bipul> krasnayarsk, May be the link is down at the moment?
[09:25] <krasnayarsk> bipul: Yes. The content is not available.
[09:25] <captn3m0> the ppa you are using does not have a package for precise
[09:26] <jethisoon> hi i was trying to replace the installed distro which is linux mint 17 with lubuntu 14.04 so i clicked on something else which is manual install but lubuntu installation wont let me check reformat and only the minus button at the bottom is highlighted. so what might have happened if i presed that minus button? will it wipe the / partition so i can install lubuntu? which is what i want. or will it be gone entirely?
[09:26] <rubic> blurkis: any ideas?
[09:27] <captn3m0> jethisoon: I think the minus button deletes the partition, so you will have to recreate it
[09:27] <bipul> So Should i remove those link? from my /etc/apt/sources.list file
[09:28] <captn3m0> You can either remove the PPA
[09:28] <captn3m0> or try manually updating the ppa source file
[09:28] <bekks> bipul: You dont have to do anything, you can safely ignore that error.
[09:28] <bipul> captn3m0, Do you have any documents for that.
[09:29] <captn3m0> I doubt you'll get it to work (https://launchpad.net/~popey/+archive/ubuntu/shellinabox). Its not been updated since 2009. Better to just remove the ppa
[09:29] <k1l_> bipul: maybe the PPA got deleted or the files got deleted. the PPA server is working as you can see on other PPAs
[09:30] <popey> eek
[09:30] <popey> thats my ppa
[09:30] <k1l_> and its popeys fault, of course :)
[09:30] <popey> shellinabox 242 weeks ago  - time flies. No, I'm not updating that ppa.
[09:31] <captn3m0> bipul: http://askubuntu.com/questions/307/how-can-ppas-be-removed
[09:32] <bipul> Thank you.
[09:33] <Vanathu> HI
[09:33] <Vanathu> i am still in same issues
[09:35] <krasnayarsk> Vanathu: Which issue? Could you explain?
[09:35] <jethisoon> captn3m0 so what happens to the linux mint install on that partition? shouldnt it be easier if lubuntu just allowed us to format the partition?
[09:36] <captn3m0> I have no idea why you can't tick reformat
[09:37] <captn3m0> You can click on minus safely. The deletion isn't done till you click on next/submit
[09:37] <k1l_> jethisoon: why dont you choose "use the whole disk"? that will make it most easy for you
[09:38] <captn3m0> I just prefer to use gparted (should be present on the install iso) to create the structure as per my wishes, and then just set mountpoints in the install process
[09:39] <Chris_hubu> hi guys
[09:39] <function9> hi
[09:40] <jethisoon> k1l_ bcoz i really have to dual boot.
[09:40] <k1l_> jethisoon: what is the other OS?
[09:41] <jethisoon> captn3m0 so how do we get to gparted from the lubuntu install dvd?
[09:41] <captn3m0> choose "try lubuntu" instead of install
[09:42] <jethisoon> kil windows
[09:43] <k1l_> jethisoon: what about you just check the partitions that mint used and check them for / and swap (and /home) in the manual partition progress?
[09:46] <jethisoon> captn3m0 if i use gparted from there, will there be an option for us to reformat?
[09:48] <gwhihjwggp> my chicken went into those keys they only use the space bar k f c bucket of evil
[09:48] <captn3m0> You shouldn't need to reformat as it will be a blank partition after gparted is done with it
[09:49] <jethisoon> k1l there is a swap and home in my partitions. my problem is i cant tick on format / from the lubuntu install cd.
[09:50] <josmala> What spell I have to invoke to link against LLVM libraries from the ubuntu software center. [Installed it and compiled a tutorial (after added symlink  for include directory) ]
[09:50] <josmala> I have latest ubuntu.
[09:52] <dingobingomingo> test
[09:52] <bipul> I am still stuck here please i need a help http://paste.ubuntu.com/7802668/
[09:52] <jethisoon> captn3m0 what buttons do we click in gparted?
[09:53] <captn3m0> just right click and format?
[09:53] <captn3m0> or something similar
[09:54] <k1l_> !ppa-purge | bipul
[09:55] <captn3m0> PPAs are in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory
[09:56] <jethisoon> captn3m0 can we do that from our linux mint install and wipe itself off?
[09:56] <captn3m0> no
[09:57] <captn3m0> you cannot edit/delete/format a mounted partition
[09:57] <bipul> captn3m0, I am unable to access to this directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[09:57] <bipul> Even i have used sudo
[09:57] <k1l_> bipul: use ppa-purge
[09:57] <bipul> I think that ppa-purge is the best option.
[09:58] <jethisoon> captn3m0 so i have to do it from lubuntu install dvd?
[10:00] <captn3m0> he never installed a package from that ppa, so I thought ppa-purge was an overkill
[10:00] <captn3m0> didn't sudo add-apt-repository --remove work?
[10:00] <captn3m0> jethisoon: yes
[10:06] <jethisoon> captn3m0 after format with lubuntu install cd, i then restart and install lubuntu right?
[10:06] <captn3m0> While running ubuntu live cd, there is an icon for "Install Ubuntu" on the desktop
[10:06] <captn3m0> I'm not sure if there is such an option in lubuntu, but if there is, you wont need to reboot
[10:08] <jethisoon> captn3m0 yeah there is. i forgot. tnx.
[10:09] <dusf123> if someone runs windows 8.1 recovery or reset will it affect the ubuntu install on the same hdd?
[10:09] <k1l_> dusf123: most likely it will erase the ubuntu partitions
[10:10] <dusf123> k1l_: i want to install ubuntu's on my gf's dad's laptop but there is a very good chance he will crap out windows, and possibly ubuntu at some point - i would like to be able to be able to restore one or both easily
[10:10] <dusf123> i use clonezilla myself, but is there anything more user friendly i could install, possily on the same drive?
[10:11] <k1l_> dusf123: well, then make a install and then make a hdd copy as fallback
[10:11] <neo1691> I want to install a window manager bspwm and use it in ubuntu 12.04, so I would like to how how does lightdm handles startup scripts as compared to ~/.xinitrc
[10:11] <dusf123> k1l_: anyway to put it all on the same drive?
[10:12] <rubic> Last I checked BSPWM isnt in the ubuntu repositories so you'll have to compile it from source
[10:13] <stynstyn> hi
[10:13] <k1l_> dusf123: but most recovery/full reset options form the windows will erase all partitions
[10:14] <dusf123> k1l_: yes, from within windows, or at least using windows software, but there must be other recovery software
[10:16] <bipul> It's not working k1l_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/7802750/
[10:16] <neo1691> rubic yes, I am compiling it from source, so how do I start bspwm instead of unity
[10:16] <neo1691> I actually want to know how lightdm differs from using .xinitrc
[10:16] <Mathisen> dusf123 norton ghost
[10:17] <neo1691> do I just add exec bspwm & in .xsession and lightdm will magically start bspwm instead of ubuntu?
[10:17] <k1l_> bipul: pastebin a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[10:20] <hardman> hey
[10:20] <bipul> k1l_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7802767/
[10:20] <hardman> i installed ubuntu 14.04 alongside win 7
[10:20] <hardman> and now i doesnt show me option to start ubuntu on boot up
[10:20] <hardman> it boots into windows by default
[10:20] <Mrokii> Hello. I wanted to try out byobu (in conjunction with tmux), but it doesn't seem to work correctly. When I start byobu I get its shell-window but nothing I type is printed at the commandline. And when I hit Ctrl-A I always get a message about configuring the shortcut. Is this a bug or am I missing something?
[10:20] <hardman> what to do?
[10:21] <hardman> any clue/solution?
[10:21] <k1l_> bipul: sudo rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/popey-shellinabox-precise.list
[10:21] <hardman> i installed ubuntu 14.04 alongside win 7
[10:21] <hardman> and now i doesnt show me option to start ubuntu on boot up
[10:21] <k1l_> bipul: then sudo apt-get update
[10:21] <bipul> k1l_, will it work sir?
[10:21] <hardman> and now i doesnt show me option to start ubuntu on boot up
[10:21] <hardman> it boots into windows by default
[10:21] <hardman> any clue/solution?
[10:21] <k1l_> hardman: reinstall grub
[10:21] <hardman> how?
[10:21] <k1l_> !bootrepair
[10:21] <k1l_> !boot-repair
[10:22] <hardman> sorry i'm a layman
[10:22] <k1l_> hardman: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[10:22] <hardman> can u kindly guide me somewhat?
[10:22] <hardman> thanks
[10:22] <josmala> I think the default LLVM package is broken in the repository, as it doesn't put things in places where compiler can find them.
[10:23] <hardman> i have onw question k1l_
[10:23] <hardman> this is shown in ubuntu
[10:23] <hardman> i mean i can use same process in windows?
[10:24] <krasnayarsk> "cat file.txt | awk '{print $1}' | sed s/[0-9]+?/_/g | less" doesn't do anything. What's wrong with it?
[10:24] <k1l_> hardman: no. windows has no interest in supporting any linux. so you need to run the ubuntu-usb or dvd
[10:25] <guest-xCzr0f> i can't log into my desktop session, when i enter my password, it logs in, shows the cursor and black screen then goes back to login screen, (but I could log into guest session)
[10:25] <rubic> neo1691: Have you compiled something from source before?
[10:26] <triplc> hi all
[10:26] <k1l_> guest-xCzr0f: log into the console with ctrl-alt-f1 (back with ctrl-alt-f7) and log into your user. make sure all files belong to user:user and not root:root
[10:26] <rubic> neo1691:oh wait your actual question, lightdm manages stuff for you when installed via apt-get no idea when done by source sorry ;/
[10:27] <guest-xCzr0f> k1l_: what do you mean by "all files" ?
[10:27] <bipul> k1l_, Thank you, It's working.
[10:27] <triplc> can i remove  xserver-xorg-video-intel after install nvidia-prime? currently i am using bumblebee and have both intel and nvidia driver install
[10:28] <k1l_> guest-xCzr0f: its a common problem when a user broke the file permission while making stuff with sudo that is not intended to. it makes files like .XAuthority belong to root and the user cant log in
[10:29] <guest-xCzr0f> k1l_: you're right, .XAuthority is 600
[10:29] <guest-xCzr0f> k1l_: is it just this file?
[10:30] <k1l_> guest-xCzr0f: i am not talking about filemod i am talking about owner
[10:30] <k1l_> guest-xCzr0f: see "ls -al"
[10:30] <ajnr> Hi friends, I am facing problem to install shallow parser in ubuntu. after giving the make install command I got http://fpaste.org/118371/40550305/   i.e. error while loading shared libraries: libgdbm.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. I am using ubuntu 14.04 64 bit machine
[10:31] <guest-xCzr0f> k1l_: thanks, i chown.ed it
[10:31] <guest-xCzr0f> k1l_: it works now
[10:31] <k1l_> guest-xCzr0f: good. but be aware not to misuse sudo in future
[10:31] <guest-xCzr0f> k1l_: a'ay sir
[10:33] <Mrokii> k1l_: I wonder what you mean by misuse. I've had the same issue quite a few times with Ubuntu and never used sudo in any kind of unusual way before that happened. To me it looks rather like some random bug.
[10:34] <k1l_> Mrokii: most times this "bug" comes up when gui programs are started with sudo
[10:35] <netwrkspider> hi guys
[10:36] <netwrkspider> how can i install linux on laptop.
[10:36] <netwrkspider> :P
[10:36] <k1l_> !install | netwrkspider
[10:36] <netwrkspider> @ubottu : Thanks :)
[10:36] <ArTeS> thanks to k1l_ :p
[10:37] <loa> hello
[10:37] <rewbycraft> o/ loa
[10:38] <loa> is there some kind of software for development which i can use to create project using sftp account?
[10:38] <loa> i don't know maybe it is netbeans or geany
[10:39] <ubuntu458> Is there any more of a penalty using qemu 64bit host 32bit guest than there is 32/32?
[10:40] <rewbycraft> loa: I don't completely understand what you mean with "create project using sftp account".
[10:41] <loa> rewbycraft, repos with sources are on remote server.
[10:41] <loa> now i use geany and filezilla
[10:41] <loa> but i want projects.
[10:41] <ajnr> Hi, how to solve the problem with error while loading shared libraries: libgdbm.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:42] <loa> not just files opened with geany.
[10:42] <rewbycraft> Well, that depends on what source control program you want to use. From the top of my head, git and bzr will work. Though you might wanna look into getting an account on something like github, bitbucket (this one gives free private repos) or launchpad (if you wanna use bzr).
[10:42] <rewbycraft> loa: Heck, you could even go all out and run your own repo servers. I, for example, have a personal gitlab server.
[10:43] <ddssc> ubuntu 14.04 , youtube not working , stuck on start of video, html5 doesnt work either. this happened all of the sudden, maybe some of the latest updates fucked it up. advice please
[10:43] <rewbycraft> ddssc: Have you installed flashplayer?
[10:44] <loa> rewbycraft, but what software you use to access it?
[10:44] <loa> where you create project?
[10:44] <ddssc> rewbycraft,  oh i just noticed that my sound doesn't work either. sweet. this just happened
[10:44] <ddssc> :D
[10:44] <ddssc> so no sound, and youtube stuck
[10:45] <ddssc> 14.04 LTS
[10:45] <rewbycraft> loa: You might want to read up on version control. I personally use git and will recommend it, though you should go with what fits your workflow personally.
[10:45] <rewbycraft> ddssc: I repeat: Have you installed flashplayer?
[10:45] <ddssc> rewbycraft, where do I check that?
[10:45] <ddssc> rewbycraft,  I dont recall installing it
[10:45] <loa> rewbycraft, i don't need version control, i just want create project i which sources are on remote side.
[10:46] <loa> and asking about maybe somebody can report working solutions for this.
[10:46] <rewbycraft> ddssc: Open a terminal with CTRL+ALT+T and enter (without quotes) "sudo apt-get install flashplayer-installer -y" and enter your password when asked.
[10:46] <loa> i remeber that netbeans can dot this.
[10:46] <loa> but it is bloatware.
[10:46] <ddssc> rewbycraft, E: Unable to locate package flashplayer-installer
[10:47] <rewbycraft> loa: If you don't wanna use vcs then you can just sync the source directory over sftp (although I don't recommend it)
[10:47] <rewbycraft> ddssc: Yeah, it should've been flashplugin-installer (it *used* to be flashplayer-installer)
[10:47] <backSlasher> Does anyone have any idea why Ubuntu uses fstrim and not "discard" on mounts?
[10:47] <ddssc> loa,  netbeans is bloatware? yea you better stick with Vim bro
[10:48] <loa> ddssc, yeah. 500mb ram consumption it is normal situation.
[10:48] <rewbycraft> ddssc: Or nano. Or emacs. *insert xkcd butterfly effect joke here*
[10:48] <loa> java, what i can say.
[10:48] <ddssc> rewbycraft, hehe :)
[10:48] <rewbycraft> loa: I do java programming too, you know.
[10:48] <rewbycraft> ddssc: Any luck installing flashplayer?
[10:48] <ddssc> rewbycraft, yea I already got that installed
[10:48] <loa> ok maybe it is not bloatware but it is heavy.
[10:48] <loa> in all ways.
[10:49] <rewbycraft> Try restarting your browser and then re-opening the video.
[10:49] <ddssc> loa, it's a hog, but a very useful hog
[10:49] <loa> maybe sublime can do this?
[10:49] <rewbycraft> loa: Intellij?
[10:49] <loa> or maybe really go for the netbeans.
[10:49] <ddssc> loa, altho if you code Java you really should llook up IDEA
[10:49] <loa> no it is not java, it is just php.
[10:49] <ddssc> I use netbeans for php and it's great
[10:50] <loa> ddssc, i know it.
[10:50] <rewbycraft> ddssc: PHPStorm ftw.
[10:50] <loa> it is great but not for my hardware.
[10:50] <loa> i want just project possibility with remote sources destanation.
[10:50] <loa> for example using sftp.
[10:51] <ddssc> rewbycraft, heard good things about it, never needed it really, Netbeans has pretty much everything I need , framework support and all
[10:51] <ddssc> loa,  so you put your project on a remote server, open sftp connection in Nautilus and load it in netbeans like a normal local project
[10:52] <ddssc> rewbycraft,  any other ideas about my broken sound?
[10:52] <rewbycraft> Checked if the volume is set correctly in the sound settings?
[10:52] <rewbycraft> Also, does the problem manifest with other programs?
[10:53] <rewbycraft> loa: Although my stance is VCS. For what you want you might want to look into lsyncd.
[10:55] <ddssc> rewbycraft,  yea pretty much this thread here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2211608&page=2
[10:55] <ddssc> I'm just too lazy to read it all so Im asking here
[10:55] <ddssc> :d
[10:55] <rewbycraft> No worries.
[10:55] <ddssc> not thta I should since I expect the basic features of an OS like sound not to break down every random tuesday
[10:56] <ddssc> errr...wednesday
[10:56] <AlexPortable> later this year ubuntu mate is being released. how is this different from installing mate package on 14.04 lts?
[10:56] <rewbycraft> Sound can be weird on linux. But when it works, it's amazing.
[10:56] <ddssc> rewbycraft, yea linux sound is pretty good, altho windows + asio is equal if not better
[10:57] <rewbycraft> ddssc: Try installing pavucontrol and make sure that in the playback-tab all programs have the correct sound card set.
[10:57] <brucelee> hmm after running the ubuntu installation, i get this: error: no such device: 962bda2a-c294...blhablah
[10:57] <brucelee> grub rescue>
[10:57] <brucelee> anyone know what could have gone wrong?
[10:57] <rewbycraft> ddssc: A bit ago I had a problem where some programs were being assigned to the hdmi audio (even though it isn't plugged in)
[10:57] <ddssc> rewbycraft, I tried running aplay -l to get a list of devices and it got stuck. it's not a hw error tho, my sound works fine in win
[10:58] <rewbycraft> brucelee: Broken hard drive? Corrupt parititon?
[10:59] <rewbycraft> ddssc: Hmm. Can you try booting off of a live-cd and checking if the sound issue persists? (I wanna see if it's a problem with ubuntu+your machine or some config problem on your install)
[10:59] <brucelee> rewbycraft: hmm possibly, i ran the installation twice though and both times same thing
[10:59] <brucelee> btu if the hard drive is broken, why would the installation work
[11:00] <brucelee> :/
[11:00] <rewbycraft> brucelee: *shrug* I've had a hard drive that corrupted the first sectors a couple of times and caused this.
[11:00] <brucelee> rewbycraft: ok thanks
[11:01] <rewbycraft> brucelee: Can you try using bootrepair?
[11:05] <dExIT> Can somone help me with this message ? ( Ispconfig with apache ) http://pastebin.com/aWWvGBQf
[11:07] <rewbycraft> dExIT: You have a permission problem. Solution (without quotes) "sudo chown -R 1000:1000 /var/lib/apache2/fastcgi"
[11:09] <histo> brucelee: do you have a picture of the error?
[11:09] <brucelee> rewbycraft: i have 2 disks in there
[11:09] <brucelee> i tried changing boot order
[11:09] <brucelee> see if it works
[11:09] <brucelee> :/
[11:09] <Mrokii> k1l_: Yeah, okay, but I think the bug shouldn't show up at all, as there are times when one needs to use sudo. Or at least that's my impression.
[11:10] <rewbycraft> brucelee: Like I said can you try running boot-repair?
[11:10] <ionwind> hola
[11:11] <brucelee> rewbycraft: new to ubuntu, whats that
[11:11] <brucelee> ill google it
[11:11] <brucelee> changing the boot order worked
[11:11] <brucelee> you think that wasnt neccessary?
[11:11] <krasnayarsk> Hi. Is anbody using Lilo instead of Grub?
[11:11] <brucelee> boot repair would have fixed it and made it boot off the first one
[11:12] <rewbycraft> brucelee: It usually fixes most common problems.
[11:12] <rewbycraft> brucelee: I like it because it fixes my UEFI boot if I screw it up.
[11:12] <brucelee> is boot repair somethign specific to ubuntu?
[11:12] <brucelee> something i need a live cd to do?
[11:13] <rewbycraft> brucelee: Yes and yes. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[11:14] <brucelee> thanks :P
[11:14] <ign> salut, s'il vous plait. je voudrai installer mac os x marvericks sur un pc dell inspiron 15r
[11:14] <rewbycraft> brucelee: Why thank us, you figured it out.
[11:15] <rewbycraft> ign: This channel is english only. Please go to #ubuntu-fr
[11:15] <brucelee> rewbycraft: for telling me about boot repair
[11:15] <brucelee> :
[11:15] <brucelee> :P
[11:15] <rewbycraft> brucelee: No problem. It's a useful tool in case you ever have problems booting.
[11:20] <hobbit> BOO!
[11:22] <cyb3rty> hello. can you help me with bumblebee?
[11:24] <Stibb> hello
[11:25] <Stibb> I need help to integrate a new version of a software into official ubuntu repository. What is the process to follow?
[11:26] <histo> Stibb: try emailing the maintainer
[11:32] <krasnayarsk> Can I configure grub.cfg in /boot/grub? Or is there someplace else I should edit Grub?
[11:32] <rewbycraft> krasnayarsk: /etc/default/grub
[11:32] <histo> krasnayarsk: what are you trying to edit?
[11:32] <histo> s/what/why
[11:32] <krasnayarsk> histo: framebuffer stuff.
[11:33] <rewbycraft> krasnayarsk: Like I said: /etc/default/grub (run "sudo update-grub" afterwards to sync the configs)
[11:33] <krasnayarsk> rewbycraft: Cool. Thanks :)
[11:33] <histo> krasnayarsk: update the grub_default_linux blah blah line in /etc/default/grub and sudo update-grub
[11:34] <krasnayarsk> histo: gotcha.
[11:35] <histo> krasnayarsk: grub_cmdline_linux_default="...."
[11:35] <rewbycraft> histo: *GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFUALT
[11:35] <rewbycraft> *DEFAULT
[11:35] <rewbycraft> (correcting my own correction...)
[11:35] <histo> rewbycraft: my caps key isn't present
[11:36]  * histo is lazy
[11:36] <rewbycraft> histo: Shift?
[11:36] <rewbycraft> histo: Ah.
[11:36] <histo> rewbycraft: then my pinky would have to move off of home row.
[11:37]  * rewbycraft facepalms
[11:37] <theperfectpunk> hello
[11:37] <theperfectpunk> i need to fix ubuntu boot
[11:37] <rewbycraft> theperfectpunk: What's wrong with it?
[11:37] <histo> theperfectpunk: what's wrong with it?
[11:37] <theperfectpunk> as i just formatted windows partition
[11:38] <theperfectpunk> histo: No EFI partition now
[11:38] <theperfectpunk> so can't boot into it
[11:38] <rewbycraft> theperfectpunk: Boot-repair is your friend.
[11:38] <rewbycraft> theperfectpunk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[11:38] <histo> theperfectpunk: how and why did you remove your efi partition
[11:38] <rewbycraft> theperfectpunk: Can you turn off EFI boot in your bios? (also, what histo said)
[11:38] <theperfectpunk> i was trying to wipe my windows 8 partition
[11:39] <theperfectpunk> and wiped the efi partition too
[11:39] <rewbycraft> theperfectpunk: If you can't turn on legacy (non-(U)EFI) boot then you might have to re-install ubuntu.
[11:39] <theperfectpunk> rewbycraft: doesn't boot
[11:39] <histo> theperfectpunk: testdisk to undelete the partition
[11:40] <theperfectpunk> rewbycraft: can't i create a EFI partition manually?
[11:40] <histo> theperfectpunk: if you knew the start and end of your previous efi partition you could just redefine it again.
[11:40] <rewbycraft> theperfectpunk: Dunno.
[11:41] <theperfectpunk> histo: here's what i see using gparted
[11:41] <theperfectpunk> http://tinypic.com/2mpm2cg9
[11:42] <rewbycraft> theperfectpunk: So you DO have an efi part?
[11:42] <rewbycraft> theperfectpunk: Boot-repair should fix this then.
[11:42] <rubic> so I was using boot-repair to fix grub/mbr and it looks like it tried to install the MBR on the usb running the live install o.0 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7797999/ Anyone know why it failed?
[11:42] <theperfectpunk> histo: and using disks http://tinypic.com/2mpm2cg9
[11:43] <theperfectpunk> rewbycraft: no
[11:43] <theperfectpunk> i am booting using ubuntu dvd
[11:43] <theperfectpunk> usb
[11:43] <theperfectpunk> to be precise
[11:43] <histo> theperfectpunk: what was on the 500GB disk?
[11:43] <theperfectpunk> windows
[11:43] <theperfectpunk> i need to backup one partition
[11:44] <histo> theperfectpunk: well you also have efi partition on the 250gb. So which were you using for boot previously?
[11:44] <theperfectpunk> so i tried to get it into ubuntu partition
[11:44] <theperfectpunk> i tried booting both disks
[11:44] <theperfectpunk> can't get to boot one
[11:44] <theperfectpunk> no UEFI mode get shown
[11:45] <rewbycraft> rubic: Try just using a normal live-cd(/dvd) and then running boot-repair from that.
[11:45] <rubic> Dell XPS 13 has no CD/DVD drive ;-;
[11:45] <histo> theperfectpunk: basically what rewbycraft says. or reinstall grub manually
[11:45] <rewbycraft> rubic: Ah. I'd say try running it again?
[11:46] <rubic> Ohk.
[11:46] <rubic> Ive been messing around with grub command line tools for a while
[11:46] <theperfectpunk> histo: could u atleast tell me how to access the 250GB disk from live?
[11:46] <rubic> but Ill give boot-repair another go
[11:46] <theperfectpunk> histo: so that i can backup
[11:46] <theperfectpunk> boot-repair says "GPT partition detected
[11:47] <rewbycraft> rubic: Nothing wrong with that. I advise getting more experienced with them in a VM first before using them on actual hardware.
[11:47] <bipul> hello I am looking for a help. I am trying to install SVN  on my ubuntu 14.04. I am following official guide of ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/subversion.html. But i need to understand this part "svn import /path/to/import/directory file:///path/to/repos/project" what does it mean here import directory here?
[11:47] <rewbycraft> them=grub cli tools
[11:48] <theperfectpunk> histo: rewbycraft: this is what i get with boot-repair
[11:48] <theperfectpunk> http://tinypic.com/2mpm2cg9
[11:48] <histo> theperfectpunk: click on the disk in nautilus or on the launcher to the left
[11:48] <theperfectpunk> histo: it doesn't give me write permission
[11:48] <theperfectpunk> histo: i can't copy stuff
[11:48] <theperfectpunk> histo: paste is grayed out
[11:48] <rewbycraft> theperfectpunk: alt+f2 and then enter: gksudo nautilus
[11:48] <histo> theperfectpunk: why would you write there if you are trying to backup?
[11:49] <theperfectpunk> histo: i need to copy from windows partition to ubuntu partition
[11:49] <histo> theperfectpunk: I though you formatted windows?
[11:49] <theperfectpunk> then repartition the other disk
[11:49] <rewbycraft> histo: (he also said he deleted his EFI partition)
[11:49] <theperfectpunk> histo: it's saying something about GPT patition too, can't install windows
[11:50] <histo> theperfectpunk: STOP,  what did you do prior to this issue?
[11:50] <theperfectpunk> so trying to wipe the whole disk and then start
[11:50] <Kartagis> why am I getting 403 with youtube-dl? has youtube changed something?
[11:50] <theperfectpunk> histo: i tried deleting one partition and install windows on it
[11:50] <theperfectpunk> histo: but couldn't
[11:50] <theperfectpunk> histo: it said that the partition is GPT can't be installed
[11:51] <theperfectpunk> histo: tried installing UEFI mode, but the same error occured
[11:51] <rewbycraft> Kartagis: It has. Run "sudo youtube-dl -U"  to update it.
[11:51] <theperfectpunk> histo: now m gonna wipe the whole disk
[11:51] <theperfectpunk> histo: no partitions and let windows partition
[11:51] <histo> theperfectpunk: Which partition did you delete?
[11:52] <theperfectpunk> histo: the MSR, Reserver, System and C:
[11:52]  * histo is so confused
[11:52] <theperfectpunk> Reserved
[11:52]  * rewbycraft joins histo in confused-land
[11:52] <histo> theperfectpunk: On which disk?
[11:52] <theperfectpunk> histo: D has that data
[11:52] <theperfectpunk> i need to backup
[11:52] <theperfectpunk> histo: on 500GB
[11:52] <histo> theperfectpunk: the 500gb or the 250gb is d?
[11:53] <theperfectpunk> one partition on 500GB
[11:53] <histo> theperfectpunk: okay so now you want to write data from the 500gb to the 250gb that doesn't boot?
[11:53] <theperfectpunk> histo: all these partition were on 500GB disk
[11:53] <theperfectpunk> histo: yep
[11:53] <histo> theperfectpunk: pastebin the output of parted -l
[11:53] <theperfectpunk> histo: the 250GB has ubuntu on it
[11:54] <theperfectpunk> just ubuntu
[11:55] <histo> theperfectpunk: which doesn't boot?
[11:56] <theperfectpunk> histo: yea
[11:56] <theperfectpunk> histo: http://pastebin.com/8mUV1LA9
[11:56] <theperfectpunk> histo: nothing boots as of now
[11:57] <theperfectpunk> histo: am on live dvd
[11:57] <theperfectpunk> histo: live usb
[11:57] <histo> theperfectpunk: if you want to fix it I would just use testdisk to undelete the efi partition off of the 500gb disk
[11:57] <histo> theperfectpunk: but to copy your files you can ...
[11:58] <theperfectpunk> histo: yea
[11:58] <histo> theperfectpunk: sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu && sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/ubuntu && sudo mkdir /mnt/windows && sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/windows
[11:58] <rubic> rewbycraft: I found an option in the boot-repair to only install the MBR to sda so I enabled that this time http://paste.ubuntu.com/7803085/
[11:58] <histo> theperfectpunk: then copy your files from /mnt/windows to /mnt/ubuntu
[11:59] <theperfectpunk> histo: it would give me write permissions?
[11:59] <theperfectpunk> on the ubuntu partitions?
[11:59] <histo> theperfectpunk: you could add -o users,rw    to the mount commands
[11:59] <theperfectpunk> histo: do i need to specift password somewhere?
[11:59] <theperfectpunk> don't
[12:00] <theperfectpunk> specift
[12:00] <theperfectpunk> specify
[12:00] <histo> theperfectpunk: password for what?
[12:00] <theperfectpunk> ubuntu
[12:00] <theperfectpunk> to access the files
[12:00] <theperfectpunk> i mean to get permission
[12:00] <histo> theperfectpunk: no
[12:00] <Kartagis> rewbycraft: It looks like you installed youtube-dl with a package manager, pip, setup.py or a tarball. Please use that to update.
[12:00] <rewbycraft> Kartagis: sudo pip install --upgrade youtube-dl
[12:01] <histo> theperfectpunk: or add uid=1000,gid=1000 as  a mount option either way. You can copy the files now and fix perms later.
[12:01] <rewbycraft> rubic: Can you detail your exact steps with boot-repair for me?
[12:02] <rubic> rewbycraft: I booted my liveusb, entered wifi passwd
[12:02] <theperfectpunk> histo: the parameters are  nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show,-o users,rw
[12:02] <theperfectpunk> histo: ok?
[12:02] <rewbycraft> rubic: I mean, which buttons did you click in boot-repair?
[12:02] <histo> theperfectpunk: no
[12:02] <rubic> rewbycraft: oh sure
[12:03] <theperfectpunk> histo: remove -o users,rw
[12:03] <Kartagis> rewbycraft: I don't have pip, I get the same version when I do --reinstall install on apt-get, and "youtube-dl is the newest version" when I do install
[12:03] <Kartagis> heh
[12:03] <theperfectpunk> and add uid=1000, guid=1000?
[12:03] <histo> theperfectpunk: Why are you adding all those? and -o isn't a valid option you mount -o long,list,of,options
[12:03] <theperfectpunk> ok
[12:03] <theperfectpunk> histo: ok
[12:03] <histo> theperfectpunk: just copy and paste my command above with all the &&'s
[12:04] <histo> theperfectpunk: you can gksu nautilus to copy your files temporarily
[12:04] <rubic> rewbycraft: Ticked place grub into [sda] and then ran  recomended repair, now that I think about it I dont think I pressed apply at all so that change is probably meaningless
[12:04] <histo> theperfectpunk: we can fix permissions later.
[12:04] <theperfectpunk> histo: these were added by the os automatically nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show
[12:04] <rubic> -_-
[12:05] <histo> theperfectpunk: whatever, just get them both mounted and copy files to and fro
[12:05] <rewbycraft> rubic: Try again, but press apply.
[12:07] <rubic> rewbycraft: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7803137/ done
[12:08] <histo> theperfectpunk: when you are done copying sync and umount them. Then do whatever you want.
[12:09] <rewbycraft> rubic: I meant can you explain exactly which buttons you press. Even just to launch boot-repair itself.
[12:10] <rewbycraft> rubic: Because I don't know what you're doing, but it's making boot-repair do a SNAFU.
[12:10] <monoton> is it possible to somehow move where where the gconf settings live from ~/.gconf/ to  ~/.config/.gconf/ ?
[12:10] <rubic> rewbycraft: I am running it from the dash
[12:10] <theperfectpunk> histo
[12:10] <theperfectpunk> histo: m using disk to set mount options
[12:11] <rubic> rewbycraft: If I run sudo boot-repair it hangs at os-probe or probe-os I dont remember
[12:11] <theperfectpunk> histo: these are the current parameters http://tinypic.com/m/ico2s7/2
[12:11] <rewbycraft> rubic: I honestly don't know how you managed to get it to do that.
[12:12] <theperfectpunk> histo: i can write with re
[12:12] <theperfectpunk> rw
[12:12] <theperfectpunk> parameter
[12:12] <philinux> monoton;~ probably not
[12:12] <histo> theperfectpunk: you probably won't need it with those options
[12:12] <theperfectpunk> histo: i'll just try gksu
[12:13] <histo> theperfectpunk: what?
[12:13] <monoton> philinux: ok. I guess I have to change source for evertyhing for that to happen then
[12:13] <theperfectpunk> run nautilus as root
[12:13] <theperfectpunk> histo: or better i'll just sudo su
[12:13] <philinux> monoton;~ i thnk you'd have to compile gnome yourself to change that
[12:13] <histo> theperfectpunk: I can't help you if you keep changing what you are doing.
[12:13] <theperfectpunk> and copy the files
[12:14] <theperfectpunk> histo: access terminal as root
[12:14] <theperfectpunk> histo: copy files and then fix permissions when i am able to boot
[12:14] <histo> theperfectpunk: Or you could just click on the relevant partitions in the UI from the launcher if you are attached to the GUI
[12:15]  * monoton must... resist urge... to make my own liinuxdist with modified gnome ;-)
[12:15] <histo> theperfectpunk: either way your NTFS permissions are not going to be preserved
[12:16] <histo> monoton: why would you want them in a different place btw?
[12:16] <rubic> wth I checked the boot-repair.desktop and its doing exactly the same thing o.0
[12:16] <monoton> I would prefer ~ to be rather clean
[12:17] <monoton> a place where I store *my* files not a zillion of settings.
[12:17] <rewbycraft> rubic: Can you please try this: Reboot the live-usb. Click on the dash and enter boot-repair. Wait for boot-repair to load. Click recommended repair (nothing else). And tell me what it does.
[12:18] <theperfectpunk> histo: what is the default admin password in ubuntu?
[12:18] <histo> monoton: they are .hidden files
[12:18] <theperfectpunk> gksu is asking for password
[12:18] <histo> theperfectpunk: there isn't one
[12:18] <theperfectpunk> ok i just sudoed it
[12:19] <rubic> rewbycraft: If I reboot I will need to reinstall boot-repair because the usb isnt persistent but sure.
[12:19] <rewbycraft> monoton: If you can see the .hidden files. Hit CTRL+H
[12:19] <monoton> now when I think about it ideally I would like "home" to be /dokument/ and "home for settings files" to be /config/ (this is a single user system). that would be awsome.
[12:19] <monoton> and no I don't want some files to be hidden.
[12:19] <rewbycraft> rubic: I just want a clean start at this. So I was actually hoping the usb wasn't persistent.
[12:20] <rubic> ahk
[12:20] <theperfectpunk> histo: now tell me
[12:20] <theperfectpunk> can i run boot-repair after i have installed windows in the other disk
[12:20] <rewbycraft> monoton: Well, you'd have to recompile a lot of stuff for that.
[12:20] <histo> theperfectpunk: you can run boot-repair whenever you want.
[12:21] <monoton> rewbycraft: yeah I guess so  :-) well I guess I can dream at least hehe.
[12:21] <histo> theperfectpunk: I have no idea how youa re going to handle where windows is going to put it's EFI stuff though. You'd probably have to ask the ##windows peoples
[12:21] <rewbycraft> monoton: It's possible, just a lot of work.
[12:22] <n1ywb> Where did the Raring packages go?
[12:22] <n1ywb> because I'd really like to install a package but I'm getting 404 on all raring packages
[12:22] <monoton> rewbycraft: hehe ok next time I make my own linux dist I'll think about it ;-)
[12:23] <histo> monoton: that's a bit insane but do what you want. It's all open
[12:23] <guy__> Sorry to intrupt in between but I am new to this IRC, wanted to join your organisation and contribute something
[12:23] <monoton> yeah I guess... I think I should start with doing something easier first maybe.
[12:24] <monoton> welcome guy__
[12:24] <histo> !eol | n1ywb
[12:24] <guy__> Thank you, could you please help me out, to find any organisation with which I could work
[12:24] <rewbycraft> histo: Why the !eol?
[12:24] <n1ywb> well I'm fucked now because I'm on the road and I can't upgrade
[12:25] <histo> !language | n1ywb
[12:25] <rewbycraft> histo: NVM. I was misreading the person to whom you were replying.
[12:25] <n1ywb> die in a fire
[12:25] <monoton> guy__: yeah maybe there is webpage somewhere that tells how to join the #ubuntu developers?
[12:25] <histo> !volunteers | n1ywb
[12:25] <guy__> I upgraded just now and it took me around 8-9 hours to fix everything
[12:25] <rewbycraft> histo: Is there a list somewhere of all the ubottu commands?
[12:26] <guy__> so what am i doing here , what can i do here?
[12:26] <krasnayarsk> Does Ubuntu run well on older hardware? Say a 12 year old laptop?
[12:26] <histo> !factoid | rewbycraft
[12:26] <guy__> an ancient lapop
[12:26] <rewbycraft> krasnayarsk: Ubuntu? No. LUbuntu or XUbuntu? Yes?
[12:26] <trijntje> krasnayarsk: nope, use a lightweight version of ubuntu like lubuntu/xubuntu
[12:26] <krasnayarsk> trijntje: Okay. Thanks.
[12:26] <rewbycraft> Thanks histo.
[12:26] <philinux> krasnayarsk;~ depends on spec which flavour to run
[12:27] <histo> krasnayarsk: I wouldn't run unity on something that old which is ubuntu-desktop. Try something like xubuntu or lubuntu will run fine. Or you can install a command line system and build up with whatever desktop environment you want.
[12:27] <Zadik> Hi :P
[12:28] <guy__> can anybody help me choosing an open source organisation for some contribution purposes.....
[12:28] <guy__> can anybody help me choosing an open source organisation for some contribution purposes.....
[12:28] <guy__> can anybody help me choosing an open source organisation for some contribution purposes.....
[12:28] <guy__> can anybody help me choosing an open source organisation for some contribution purposes.....
[12:28] <Zadik> About the colloision of internet and the leaing of creation. Linux and Microft saw at a server at two diffrent ways, One way to make money as go and power, Linux saw it as Free and Serving. But after those more blows have happend. Google and facebook is blowing, Samsung follow the line of hard conviciton of creation. Its also lead to solutions. 3=1 is a possible code, I can use the Command prompt from both linux and Windows, Create the
[12:28] <trijntje> guy__: please behave, dont spam the channel
[12:29] <Zadik> The colusion of 1(one and 2(two) Lead to 3 ? Creations in its form ? You shot tho negative loadet particels and shoot them at eachother at the same speed. and you can get a  a picture of bigbang would look like.  But when you shoot 3(three) positive enrgies you can create some thing complete diffrent ;)    what if you combinde the source code of linux and windows open upp a terminal for a third so called "Universe, World, Space ? As yo
[12:29] <histo> !ot | Zadik
[12:29] <guy__> sorry but i needed someone
[12:29] <Zadik> Computer Bracket AB â Windows Multi Media Messenger (MMM) (Windows media player with Skype, Netflix and Spotify)  Operating Systems for IT technology Such as mobile phones, computers and  tablets. Where the system is based on a simpler technology and access to a media  PC. Full of media, music and literature, and chat systems. Even allow users  software and program codes to husband and improvement programs / games etc.  Where the ove
[12:29] <histo> guy__: Do you have a ubuntu related question?
[12:29] <Zadik> ubottu: ok
[12:30] <guy__> no, but i have a quesiton
[12:30] <histo> guy__: well you question isn't on topic here.
[12:30] <guy__> that how do i contribute some required ubuntu projects
[12:30] <rewbycraft> guy__: There are no required projects.
[12:30] <rubic> rewbycraft: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7803208/
[12:30] <histo> !contribute | guy__
[12:31] <rewbycraft> rubic: Do you have an (U)EFI system?
[12:32] <guy__> yes'
[12:32] <rubic> rewbycraft: no
[12:32] <rubic> MBR
[12:33] <guy__> am using ubuntu 14.04
[12:33] <Caroga> hi all
[12:33] <guy__> hi
[12:33] <Caroga> currently having bluetooth and wifi stability issues, anyone experienced on that matter ?
[12:33] <rubic> the usb throws errors because of the previous partition table on it I think
[12:33] <rewbycraft> rubic: Hmm. Shall we do a manual grub install then?
[12:33] <Zadik> Peace is just figurtive speaking. God was just to claim when there is no creater in this world. War is the ultimate cause of all. Was is a part of nature just as animals Raw as leaf eaters. War is in them against all odds. War is a part of the beginning. As we have no meaning etc War is our ultimate goal. War is FREEDOM ;) no one create without war or conflict ;) War is the reason and the meaning for every thing ;)
[12:33] <rubic> grub-install?
[12:33] <cfhowlett> !spam | Zadik
[12:34] <Caroga> rubic, are you installing on a raid 0 volume perhaps?
[12:34] <rubic> cause Ive done that from the livecd and chroot'd into the main install neither worked
[12:34] <rubic> nope
[12:34] <rubic> its so strange
[12:34] <rewbycraft> rubic: Try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_the_LiveCD_terminal
[12:34] <Caroga> rubic, the disk u are installing on, does it has any previous GPT tables on it ?
[12:35] <rubic> no it shouldnt
[12:35] <Caroga> But it could ?
[12:35] <rubic> let me double check the boot-repair log
[12:35] <rewbycraft> Caroga: It seems to try to install to the usb instead of the HDD
[12:35] <rewbycraft> Caroga: And his usb is a bit weird.
[12:35] <Caroga> lol, that's a first
[12:35] <Zadik> The future Computer multimedia gaming PC, this is just based on earlyer fact and things have changed but the perspectiv is the same AndvÃĪndnings areas: aslo use www.google.com / translate Games, Programming, Games and applications creation. Multi Program.   However, most crave a 7990 begangnat or if they are specials as web hall had a while back for the 4000th However koster the over 6000 again. But may well buy begangnad if they are 
[12:35] <rewbycraft> Caroga: I know mate.
[12:36] <rewbycraft> rubic: Can you try the manual install procedure I linked?
[12:36] <rewbycraft> Caroga: If auto mode, derps. Do it manually.
[12:36] <Zadik> Games, Programming, Games and applications creation. Multi Program.   However, most crave a 7990 begangnat or if they are specials as web hall had a while back for the 4000th However koster the over 6000 again. But may well buy begangnad if they are in nyckick and good flat packed. Preferably not power colors model. Without Asus / MSI or Sapphire anytime.   Would not mixxa AMD with Geforce or Radeon with Intel though. Although it worke
[12:36] <Caroga> rewbycraft, second that, amen!
[12:36] <rubic> Caroga: yeah its not there
[12:37] <rubic> rewbycraft: uhh yeah lemme take a look
[12:37] <cfhowlett> !ops | zadik spambot
[12:37] <DJones> cfhowlett: They've already quit
[12:37] <cfhowlett> DJones dammit.  hit and run spam is annoying
[12:37] <popey> too slow âŧ
[12:38] <Caroga> Missed it by that much
[12:38] <Caroga> So anyone here experienced in bluetooth and wifi connectivity problems?
[12:38] <Caroga> Cause I have a very weird situation here
[12:39] <rubic> rewbycraft: Yeah I've followed that one before, But Ive never seen any sort of evidence of grub existing on boot "No operation system found" from the bios I think.
[12:39] <Caroga> I had that as well
[12:39] <rewbycraft> Thus you need to install grub.
[12:40] <Caroga> I've had the same problem just a week ago.
[12:41] <rubic> rewbycraft: "core.img is at this location and looks in partition 112 for ." is this relevant or normal?
[12:41] <rubic> rewbycraft: at the top of the boot-repair log
[12:42] <rewbycraft> rubic: Seems okay... Although I don't know which partition is 112... So it might be looking for a non-existing partition.
[12:42] <aleo_> Hi, I have two programs I want to plot a graph on time taken by both the program. I am using command as 'time program'. It gives me three times - user, sys, real. which one should I use for comparision?
[12:42] <rewbycraft> aleo_: Real
[12:44] <jpentland> Could the error messaged "/etc/rc.local: cannot create /proc/sys/vm/lowmem_reserve_ratio: Directory nonexistent" be caused by a missing kernel option? Or simply a too-old kernel?
[12:45] <rewbycraft> jpentland: Which ubuntu version?
[12:46] <aleo_> rewbycraft: once the program is in execution user will input a value. so doesn't it is included in real time?
[12:47] <jpentland> rewbycraft, its 12.04
[12:47] <jpentland> but with a customer kernel
[12:47] <jpentland> *custom
[12:47] <rewbycraft> jpentland: I'd say either too new of a kernel or too old.
[12:47] <cfhowlett> jpentland and that's probably the issue
[12:47] <rewbycraft> aleo_: That time will count.
[12:48] <aleo_> rewbycraft: so what type I should go for?
[12:48] <rewbycraft> aleo_: Real
[12:48] <rubic> rewbycraft: hazzah! confirmed that partition 112 doesnt exist with cfdisk there is only 82 for the root and 83 for the swap. Ill run the grub-install and whatnot commands now and try and track down whats happening
[12:49] <krasnayarsk> histo: Can you tell me what a good command line distro is?
[12:49] <aleo_> rewbycraft: but the delay in user's input will affect the comparision between two programs
[12:50] <rewbycraft> aleo_: It always will.
[12:50] <jpentland> rewbycraft, cfhowlett hmm so you don't know of a kernel option that needs to be enabled to provide that? ok thanks
[12:50] <rewbycraft> jpentland: Sorry dude. I don't know too much about doing custom kernels.
[12:50] <cfhowlett> krasnayarsk ubuntu server
[12:50] <cfhowlett> jpentland no custom kernel knowledge.  sorry.
[12:53] <krasnayarsk> Thanks
[12:54] <cfhowlett> !server|krasnayarsk
[12:55] <rubic> rewbycraft: Ok so I ran sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda, how can I check where my MBR is pointing now
[12:56] <rewbycraft> rubic: Rebooting?
[12:58] <rubic> rewbycraft: uhh like I could but from experience I know it wont be fixed. how can I get the informatiion that boot-repair had as to what the MBR is pointing to.
[12:58] <rewbycraft> rubic: I don't know.
[12:58] <philinux> rubic;~ no need to reboot http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/
[12:59] <EleanorEllis> I need to download a website to static files and have all the links changed to point to static files in a sub-directory. I tried darcyripper but I can't work out how to make it replace the links. Anyone know of another application that will do this? I also tried httrack but it doesn't load
[12:59] <meteorNewbie> hi
[12:59] <rubic> philinux: Thanks, that looks great
[12:59] <stianhj> Does anyone have experience with Juniper VPN? I could previously connect from Linux, but our company uses the new Junos Pulse client which has a SMS passcode system, and I don't know where the SMS passcode fits in the old way of connecting.
[13:00] <siriusy> identfy
[13:00] <rubic> rewbycraft: Oh and thanks for your time rewbycraft, would be pretty stuck without someone to help me :D
[13:00] <rewbycraft> rubic: No problem man. Just trying to help. I will admit when I'm stumped thoug. ;P
[13:03] <meteorNewbie> Has something changed from 12.04 to 14.04 with regards to changing routes? In 12.04 route add/del worked flawlessly and sticking after reboot. When I try now it reverts to the old setting (AWS VPC instance).
[13:05] <rubic> rewbycraft: yeah still partition 112
[13:07] <rewbycraft> rubic: It doesn't happen to be a multiboot with windows, right?
[13:07] <rubic> rewbycraft: It used
[13:08] <rubic> rewbycraft: I killed the other windows paritiions and thats when this all started o.0
[13:08] <philinux> rubic;~ what does bootinfoscript show
[13:09] <rubic> well the parition is still 112 which doesnt exist but I can stick the whole thing on a pastebin for you?
[13:09] <rewbycraft> rubic: Well. I'm stumped. The only solution I can think of would be to copy your files off of the ubuntu install to some usb drive and then do a full reinstall of ubuntu.
[13:10] <rewbycraft> rubic: Let philinux attempt to help you first though. He knows his stuff.
[13:11] <rubic> rewbycraft: Ok, thanks anyway :)
[13:12] <meteorNewbie> Routing setup anyone?
[13:12] <pbx> recommendations for multi-clipboard utlities?
[13:13] <daftykins> meteorNewbie: you're going to have to be a lot more specific than that
[13:14] <monoton> yeah multiple cut/copy's could be interesting sometimes. I had something for win3.11 long time ago.
[13:14] <meteorNewbie> daftykins: Has something changed from 12.04 to 14.04 with regards to changing routes? In 12.04 route add/del worked flawlessly and sticking after reboot. When I try now it reverts to the old setting (AWS VPC instance).
[13:14] <rubic> philinux: pastebin.com/zkWL6Z7C here is the bootinfoscript
[13:15] <daftykins> meteorNewbie: not that i know of, but then i haven't had to mess with routes in 14.04 yet
[13:15] <Pici> pbx: I seem to recall glipper being one...
[13:16] <meteorNewbie> I'm gonna add my route to rc.local and see what happens.
[13:17] <philinux> rubic;~ where are you booted into now
[13:18] <rubic> philinux: the liveusb I havent been able to boot into the install for a few days now.
[13:20] <philinux> rubic;~ from there you could do a sudo grub-install to /dev/sda unless you've already tried that
[13:20] <rubic> philinux: yup tried everything from the grub/installation page
[13:22] <philinux> rubic;~ yeah but i'm thinking yo need to chroot into the install to run update-grub
[13:22] <TJ-> rubic: Did you install syslinux as well as GRUB on /dev/sda ?
[13:22] <pbx> Pici, thanks for the tip. will check it out.  wonder if it will work in xmonad...
[13:23] <thms> I just upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04
[13:23] <thms> php --version still returns 5.3
[13:23] <rewbycraft> thms: Isn't 5.3 the latest version?
[13:23] <thms> While the default version is 5.4: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/php5/
[13:23] <thms> Fuck, it's 5.3.
[13:23] <philinux> rubic this looks promising, double check with it what you've done only 3.48 minutes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lod8sRb_6I
[13:23] <rewbycraft> thms: Never mind. It's 5.5.something
[13:23] <thms> rewbycraft: in precise it's normal.
[13:24] <rewbycraft> thms: If you want a later version you might have to upgrade to 14.04.
[13:24] <Pici> thms: please mind your language kere.
[13:24] <SGTIlog> hi good day, does anyone had or have experience that the datazoom of munin in ubuntu 14.04 not working. Thanks in advance
[13:24] <rewbycraft> Also:
[13:24] <rewbycraft> !language | thmns
[13:24] <rewbycraft> (I typo'd your name, whoops)
[13:25] <SGTIlog> Hi good day, does anyone had or have experience that the datazoom of munin in ubuntu 14.04 not working. Thanks in advance!
[13:25] <Gabriel403> Hi guys, I'm setting file limits in /etc/security/limits.conf but when I log out and back in ulimit -Sn and ulimit -Hn isn't showing the values I've entered, it works fine on one aserver but not on another
[13:26] <rubic> TJ-: no
[13:27] <thms> I am trying to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10, but do-release-upgrade says: 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.201 80]  there may be a network problem
[13:27] <rewbycraft> thms: sudo apt-get update ?
[13:27] <thms> rewbycraft: same problem
[13:27] <thms> I just upgraded from 10.04 and networking works 100%
[13:28] <rewbycraft> thms: 12.10 is unsupported so it may be that the mirror deleted it.
[13:28] <TJ-> rubic: sorry, not syslinux - "extlinux" - sda6 has an installation of it, which makes me suspect that both GRUB and extlinux have tried to install themselves as the boot-loader on sda
[13:28] <philinux> thms;~ yep eol http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2014/05/01/ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-reaches-end-of-life-on-may-16-2014/
[13:29] <thms> rewbycraft, philinux, thanks, will just use the php5-oldstable ppa instead
[13:29] <philinux> thms;~ you can upgrade from 12.04 directly to 14.04 LTS
[13:29] <philinux> at some pont
[13:30] <rewbycraft> philinux: That's what I did. Should work.
[13:30] <philinux> rewbycraft;~ lts to lts always works, me always does a clean install, upgrades take too long
[13:31] <rubic> TJ-: extlinux is still part of syslinux though, which I havnt touched.
[13:31] <philinux> rubic;~ rescue any data you need first
[13:32] <rewbycraft> philinux: I used an upgrade because I needed the machine to have some custom software. My main machine had a reinstall though.
[13:32] <TJ-> rubic: Does the system motherboard have UEFI?
[13:33] <rubic> TJ-: no
[13:33] <threeseas> Help - hardware support ending 12.04  so update .... so I did and now there is no signal going to my monitor
[13:33] <rewbycraft> threeseas: Use the monitor config in "System config" -> "display settings"?
[13:33] <rubic> philinux: so yeah the instructions in the video are the same as what I've been following today, except with less /dev/ devices mounted I'll still go through with it though see if it changes the bootcheckerscriptthingy
[13:34] <philinux> TJ-;~ methinks chroot might solve rubic problem http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=15351
[13:34] <philinux> well worth a shot
[13:35] <UltimaKR_> Can anyone help me with my lubuntu 14.04 install? When I boot I am getting the grub_term_highlight_color not found error
[13:36] <TJ-> philinux: always :)
[13:36]  * philinux uses chroot from sda to update 14.10 install on sdb
[13:37] <TJ-> rubic: I have a bash script that automates  chroot of a broken system... take a look: http://iam.tj/projects/misc/chroot-auto.bash
[13:40] <rubic> TJ-: too late allready done :P
[13:40] <rubic> philinux: so yeah same thing
[13:41] <philinux> rubic;~ you mean after running update-grub the bootinfoscript still reports the same
[13:42] <rubic> philinux: Oh wow, let me run it
[13:42] <rubic> philinux: only bit I left out
[13:42] <rubic> philinux: although it shouldnt matter those cause im pretty sure update-grub doesnt touch the MBR
[13:43] <TJ-> rubic: It doesnt
[13:43] <TJ-> rubic: I came in late - what are the failure symptoms?
[13:43] <UltimaKR_> Does anyone know how to fix it?
[13:43] <philinux> rubic;~ it sure alters what the mbr points too
[13:43] <rubic> philinux: Oh I thought it only generated the menu my bad
[13:44] <TJ-> philinux: No, it doesn't, it simply updates the modules and config in /boot/grub/ ... MBR and core are installed by "grub-install"
[13:44] <xop> is there any reason why $lynx -accept_all_cookies auth=defaultuser:defaultpassword 192.168.1.1; would fail to access router configuration page (my router uses .1.1)? i get auth error while the login info is absolutely corrrect?
[13:44] <rewbycraft> UltimaKR_: Use boot-repair. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[13:44] <philinux> TJ-;~ what i mean is mbr grub bit fine whats on partitoin is borked
[13:45] <UltimaKR_> rewbycraft: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair gave me an error saying its an invalid ppa
[13:45] <TJ-> philinux: I missed the original symptom description, can you give me a summary?
[13:45] <rubic> philinux: So yeah, no fixy
[13:45] <rewbycraft> UltimaKR_: Did you follow the exact instructions on the page?
[13:45] <rubic> ill reboot just to be sure tho
[13:46] <philinux> TJ-;~ rubic bootinfo pastebin.com/zkWL6Z7C
[13:47] <TJ-> philinux: I'd read that, but didn't hear what the symptoms of the boot failure are
[13:47] <rubic> TJ-: So basically the BIOS cannot find an operating system.
[13:47] <UltimaKR_> rewbycraft: Yes but I will retry now
[13:47] <untaken> I have a machine with Ubuntu 11.10 installed,  and I want to upgrade it, however apt-get update is complaining about the mirror no longer existing. Any ideas how I can get this upgraded?
[13:47] <rubic> TJ-: It occured after I removed the various windows partitions
[13:47] <philinux> rubic;~ does it drop to a grub prompt
[13:48] <ikonia> !eolupgrade | untaken
[13:48] <rubic> no grub prompt
[13:48] <ArTeS> is there any command to see the command list ?
[13:48] <untaken> ikonia: thanks
[13:48] <philinux> rubic;~ ah fubar
[13:48] <rubic> thats why I reckon those first few lines are so important, it looks likee core.img is pointing to nothing
[13:48] <TJ-> rubic: so what happens? hanging flashing cursor, BIOS/firmware says "Cannot find boot device" ?
[13:49] <rubic> cannot find "operation system"
[13:49] <rubic> from the bios
[13:49] <rubic> I assume
[13:49] <rubic> its black and white
[13:49] <rubic> and then I press enter and it goes to the bios device selection so yeah it must be
[13:49] <philinux> rubic;~ backup any data using your live usb
[13:50] <UltimaKR_> rewbycraft: It is now not letting me connect to the internet wirelessly.
[13:50] <TJ-> rubic: OK... when this happens do you have any other devices (such as external USB storage) connected?
[13:50] <rubic> I back up my ~ every dat so
[13:50] <rubic> day*
[13:50] <rubic> yeah it brings up USB
[13:50] <rewbycraft> UltimaKR_: ... Can plug it in with a cable for a bit?
[13:50] <TJ-> rubic: "sda" is an internal system disk drive?
[13:51] <rubic> yep SSD
[13:51] <UltimaKR_> rewbycraft: It is a desktop in another room. I think I might use the CD option
[13:51] <TJ-> rubic: If there is more than one valid boot device, the BIOS may be trying to boot from that instead if it is ahead of the system internal drive in the boot order
[13:51] <rewbycraft> UltimaKR_: CD option?
[13:52] <UltimaKR_> rewbycraft: downloading the iso and burning to a disc
[13:52] <rubic> TJ-: o.o your right let me check that shouldnt be cause I havent fiddled with it but yeah fits the symptoms
[13:52] <rewbycraft> UltimaKR_: You might wanna do that.
[13:52] <TJ-> rubic: I've also seen similar issues if CD/DVD is ahead of the hard disk in the boot order, *and* the CD/DVD has a particular file-system
[13:52] <frnknstn> I am on 13.04, and it seems all the official apt repos have disappeared
[13:53] <rewbycraft> !eol | frnknstn
[13:53] <cfhowlett> !eol|frnknstn it's dead.  upgrade
[13:53] <rewbycraft> Ninja'd you cfhowlett. :P
[13:54]  * cfhowlett bows head respectfully in rebycraft's direction
[13:54] <fridaynext> i've just moved to a new machine, and I'm getting this error when i try to ssh via public key http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mNFym6aH
[13:54] <rubic> TJ-: "Operation System not found"
[13:54] <fridaynext> any ideas what i'm doing wrong?  It looks like it isn't seeing id_rsa.pub in my .ssh folder...
[13:55] <rewbycraft> fridaynext: It is. The remote server is rejecting your key.
[13:55] <source47> hi guys. anyone has experience configuring a 2nd IP to an interface?
[13:55] <rewbycraft> fridaynext: It is seeing it I mean.
[13:55] <fridaynext> rewbycraft: can you point me in the direction of what to do next?
[13:55] <frnknstn> okay, so I need to switch my apt repos to old-releases.ubuntu.com until I can upgrade?
[13:56] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | frnknstn
[13:56] <cfhowlett> frnknstn as it, you can upgrade but support is dead.
[13:56] <TJ-> rubic: bootinfoscript says the MBR on /dev/sda is OK ... that being so, the BIOS will hand over to it and you'd never see that BIOS message - therefore, you have a boot-device ordering issue
[13:56] <rewbycraft> fridaynext: Re-upload your key to the server?
[13:57] <danileigh79> anybody have the script to make xchat open in a terminal window and automatically join freenode?
[13:57] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: You can right click freenode in the network list and edit it. Select "Auto connect" and save.
[13:58] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: And then check "Skip network list" in the network select.
[13:58] <danileigh79> rewbycraft, I want it to open into a terminal/terminator window first... I've done it before a few years ago, but forgot how
[13:59] <Pici> danileigh79: xchat doesn't have a cli interface.
[13:59] <frnknstn> Okay, so the official support is over. Is there an unofficial support channel where they can answer questions like mine?
[13:59] <rewbycraft> Pici: That's what I thought.
[13:59] <rubic> TJ-: Does it, looks to me like core.img is not pointing to the next stage of the boot loader. Is core.img high enough level to give a proper error or would the BIOS handle that with a no operation system.
[14:00] <danileigh79> you know of any irc programs that do have cli interface?
[14:00] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: you know of any irc programs that do have cli interface?
[14:00] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: Irssi?
[14:00] <TJ-> rubic: If the message you are seeing "Operating System not found" originates from BIOS then BIOS isn't even loading the MBR from sector 0 of that drive
[14:00] <tmick> Hi quoexl
[14:00] <danileigh79> rewbycraft, t6hank you, forgot about irssi
[14:01] <danileigh79> exit
[14:01] <rubic> TJ-: Would I just get a flickering cursor or something, if it were successfull
[14:01] <rubic> ?
[14:01] <rubic> not succesffull but at least existing
[14:01] <TJ-> rubic: If MBR loads but it can't find core.img, you'll get a flashing underscore cursor only... if core.img loads but can't find the /boot/ partition, you'll get "grub rescue >", otherwise you'll get the GRUB boot menu
[14:02] <source47> anyone?
[14:03] <TJ-> source47: have you read https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Multiple_IP_addresses_on_One_Interface   ?
[14:04] <rubic> TJ-: Oh your right boot.img is the one embedded in the MBR that makes sense
[14:05] <TJ-> rubic: Everything you've described makes me think the system is finding multiple boot devices, and trying to boot from only one - and the wrong one too. Other than that, I'd suspect the BIOS configuration of the SATA controller may have changed, causing the SSD device to fail to respond correctly. Things like SATA AHCI vs Legacy IDE mode would affect that
[14:06] <philinux> TJ-;~ rubic is this a uefi/legacy mode problem, I've not got a new machine myself so not too savy with that
[14:06] <TJ-> rubic: If there are *any* USB devices connected, disconnect them - even non-storage devices. I've seen some motherboards that do this because the USB device incorrectly declares itself able to be a USB mass Storage, or CD, device
[14:08] <TJ-> philinux: I asked rubic earlier if it is a UEFI system, but got no reply. I don't see anything in bootinfoscript indicating it is. Assuming this exact same partition table layout (which is legacy) previously booted, the only thing that might prevent it is UEFI firmware has  disabled CSM (legacy BIOS) support
[14:08] <rubic> not UEFI
[14:08] <TJ-> rubic: What is the make/model of the PC?
[14:08] <rubic> DELL XPS 13
[14:09] <TJ-> rubic: And what did you do immediately prior to this issue developing? What caused it?
[14:09] <rubic> deleted the windows partitions
[14:09] <rubic> and then resized the ubuntu partition to take the full drive
[14:09] <colin_> hi,why i can to see the command line after ctrl +alt +f2??i need to install driver
[14:09] <rubic> thus requiring a grub-install
[14:09] <rubic> but never worked
[14:11] <colin_> anyone can help me?
[14:11] <TJ-> rubic: *resized* the partition? How exactly? extended it _downwards_ to include earlier sectors?
[14:11] <rubic> yup
[14:11] <TJ-> rubic: using gparted I assume?
[14:11] <rubic> yup
[14:12] <philinux> rubic;~ post an image of what gparted sees
[14:12] <TJ-> rubic: So, it would have had to physically move sectors from X+Y to X
[14:12] <rubic> yeah I guess so
[14:12] <danileigh79> 12.04 will not "upgrade" to 12.10 or higher via update-manager, anyone know a way to upgrade to 12.04 LTS without wiping HDD?
[14:12] <TJ-> rubic: bootinfoscript shows the file-systems within the partitions are fine, so we don't need to worry about the data integrity
[14:12] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: Upgrade to what?
[14:13] <cfhowlett> danileigh79 you don't need to wipe the HDD to upgrade.  a clean install will do it.
[14:13] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: 14.04
[14:13] <TJ-> rubic: Is the XPS 13 running Live ISO right now?
[14:13] <rubic> yes
[14:13] <TJ-> rubic: Can you do "sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C | pastebinit" ?
[14:13] <danileigh79> cfhowlett: install from usb will not permit clean install, only6 reformat HDD then install
[14:14] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-12-04
[14:14] <colin_> hi all. i can not see command line after ctrl alt f2..why?
[14:14] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: update-manager not showing 14.04 LTS as available
[14:14] <rubic> wow, you can understand mbr o.o
[14:15] <TJ-> rubic: I've written diagnostic MBRs for syslinux, so yes, I can )
[14:15] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:15] <rubic> ;o wow thats awesome
[14:15] <rubic> ok let me grab it for you
[14:15] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: "No new release found"
[14:16] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: Can you tell us the output of "sudo lsb_release -a"
[14:16] <cfhowlett> danileigh79 and it won't show until 14.04.1 point release
[14:16] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[14:16] <rewbycraft> (forgot the -d
[14:16] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: newly installed linux, need shortcut/paste link please, bookmarks weren't preserved
[14:17] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: Wat?
[14:18] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: I don't quite understand your last statement.
[14:18] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: need copy/paste link, so I don't post entire output here
[14:18] <rewbycraft> !paste | danileigh79
[14:19] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: thanks, been a few years since I used ubuntu, forgot most of cli and irssi/irc commands
[14:21] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: sudo do-release-upgrade -d working
[14:21] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: Ah, so it's upgrading now?
[14:21] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: It appears so
[14:22] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: Great!
[14:22] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: I forgot how much of a pain ubuntu was on thihs particular box I'm using...
[14:22] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: Everyone has that one computer that never works.
[14:23] <rubic> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/Swz1E7NC
[14:23] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: multiple proprietary drivers like b43 never want to work post-install, takes a lot of patience
[14:23] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: Two words: NVidia drivers
[14:24] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: I understand, this is an old Dell laptop, circa 2006, everything is on a chip
[14:24] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: Oh joy. Those are always fun.
[14:25] <james_woods> I want to upgrade my server from 13.10 to 14.04 LTS since I plan to run it in a very stable state in the following years
[14:25] <threeseas> rewbycraft - shell command for system setting  to adjust display?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> !server| james__
[14:25] <source47> TJ-: I did, but i am configuring it on AWS. i think AWS just enables another DHCP call from the itnerface
[14:25] <james_woods> do-release-upgrade does upgrade to the newest version - is it possible to limit this?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> !server| james_woods
[14:25] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: installed Win7 due to XP sundown, didn't take, so reinstalled ubuntu after several years using Windows
[14:25] <TJ-> rubic: thanks, checking now
[14:25] <rewbycraft> threeseas: I recommend arandr
[14:26] <f00dMonsta> I have a problem... after leaving pc on for a day or 2, anything that requires non-trivial graphics effects (even the fading in/out of a window when you open/close it) will slow down *alot*... Even opening the unity dash takes about 10s for it to completely fade in. Restarting unity fixes it, but then I lose all my indicators, so I end up having to restart the entire system
[14:26] <james_woods> I am currently not on LTS, how can I move to LTS?
[14:26] <f00dMonsta> I have tried killing all non-essential processes already
[14:26] <cfhowlett> james_woods 13.10 > 14.04 is do-able
[14:26] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: I installed ubuntu on my main laptop after having experimented with it on a backup laptop and finally getting fed up with win 8.
[14:26] <james_woods> cfhowlett: that is nice, I am currently trying to find out how, manpage of dist-upgrade didnt give me the infos I was looking for
[14:27] <rubic> TJ-: thankyou :)
[14:27] <james_woods> To rephrase my question: How can I move from 13.10 to 14.04 LTS ?
[14:28] <popey> james_woods: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[14:28] <danileigh79> james_woods: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[14:28] <popey> \o/
[14:28] <james_woods> popey: -d gives me a development version according to the manpage
[14:28] <rewbycraft> You two beat me to it.
[14:28] <cfhowlett> james_woods recommend waiting until 14.04.1 point-release to upgrade
[14:28] <popey> james_woods: no, it won't
[14:28] <popey> james_woods: it would if you did it on 14.04
[14:28] <k1l> no -d needed
[14:28] <rewbycraft> k1l: Yes it is.
[14:29] <k1l> rewbycraft: no
[14:29] <james_woods> k1l: of course some switch is needed since otherwise it will simply update to 14.10
[14:29] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: It's starting to come back to me, a lot of my progs aren't available anymore though since I can't find repositories
[14:29] <k1l> the 13.10 to 14.04 upgrade is opened for regular upgrade since the release of 14.10
[14:29] <popey> james_woods: no, the tools don't automatically jump to latest devel release
[14:29] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: Which programs?
[14:29] <Pici> k1l: *14.04
[14:30] <james_woods> so -d ?
[14:30] <popey> k1l: no, 14.04.1 is when the regular update opens for 12.04 to 14.04
[14:30] <k1l> yes, 14.04 in the end of the last sentence
[14:30] <k1l> popey: yes.
[14:30] <popey> k1l: he's on 13.10, not 12.04
[14:30] <rewbycraft> james_woods: Yes, -d
[14:30] <k1l> but to advice to use -d all the time even if its not needed is just useless
[14:30] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: several screenlet and convenience progs, like auto terminator/irssi, have to type commands instead of auto loading
[14:30] <k1l> james_woods: run without the -d
[14:30] <danileigh79> '
[14:30] <popey> k1l: not recommending all the time.
[14:30] <james_woods> thanks guys
[14:31] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: Those programs still exist. Just different. Although screenlets are gone.
[14:31] <k1l> 13.10 to 14.04 is a regular update path and does not need the developers update path (-d) anymore
[14:31] <k1l> just make sure the relase-prompt is not set to LTS somehow
[14:32] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: I did get screenlets to install, though most of the actual screenlets I installed from USB files
[14:32] <kantlivelong> anyone have any idea why a mPCIe SSD would stay ON after S3 suspend?
[14:32] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: can't find the screenlets repositories for new screenlets
[14:33] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: also can't find my old repos for legacy wine progs
[14:33] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: new wine doesn't include winamp :(
[14:34] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: Sorry dude. Can't help you with that.
[14:34] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: How about "dudette"? lol
[14:34] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: Sorry.
[14:35] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: just teasing, I know my nick doesn't imply I'm actually female
[14:35] <daftykins> lets keep it on topic thanks, gender and 3rd party repos aren't relevant here
[14:35] <rewbycraft> danileigh79: Still, I'm afraid I can't help you.
[14:36] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: no worries, waiting for 14.04 lts upgrade to finish, then I'm out
[14:36] <danileigh79> rewbycraft: thanks for your help though
[14:36] <f00dMonsta> meh.... i just ran "do-release-upgrade -d".... I thought it would at least prompt me before doing anything, but it just replaced all my apt source files to point to utopic.... I stopped it midway of an `apt-get update`, how do I revert back to trusty sources? :/
[14:37] <TJ-> rubic: *lightbulf appears above head*
[14:37] <rubic> TJ-: yes!?
[14:38] <cfhowlett> f00dMonsta with great power ... anyway here's your fix.  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[14:38] <TJ-> rubic: The partition table on /dev/sda has no primary partitions!!! Doh, I thought about that when I first read the bootinfoscript RESULT.txt but forgot to *think* it through
[14:38] <philinux> TJ-;~ i did wonder that partitiions fubar
[14:39] <TJ-> rubic: BIOS *needs* a primary partition else it thinks the device is a data disk. When Windows was on there, presumably it was in a primary partition (#1 to #3 maybe) ?
[14:39] <rubic> TK: yeah
[14:40] <hsnopi> ~struts
[14:40] <hsnopi> oops sorry
[14:40] <philinux> TJ-;~ is it worth seeing a pic of what gparted sees
[14:40] <rubic> TJ-: so ... make a tiny primary partition after /dev/sda4 to hack around that?
[14:40] <TJ-> rubic: You've extended sda4 down to sector 2048. GRUB's core.img starts at sector 1 but doesn't go as far as 2048. You could squeeze in a primary partition from say sector 1536 to 2047
[14:41] <TJ-> philinux: I can visualise it from the data - I've been messing with disk recovery like this since the 1990s ... second nature now :)
[14:41] <f00dMonsta> cfhowlett: can I just sed utopic to trusty in the sources.list?
[14:41] <rewbycraft> f00dMonsta: Yes.
[14:41] <cfhowlett> f00dMonsta "should" work ...
[14:42] <rubic> TJ-: How would I go about that?
[14:42] <rubic> gparted tells me its full
[14:43] <TJ-> rubic: Live ISO, terminal, "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" ... you may need the 'x'pert menu in order to slip a primary partition into slot #1
[14:43] <f00dMonsta> cfhowlett: oh wait, I found a .distUpgrade copy of the files
[14:43] <f00dMonsta> yay
[14:47] <[ESphynx]> Hey guys, how can I get thicker resizing borders under GNOME Flashback (Metacity) ?
[14:48] <TJ-> rubic: Trying to reproduce the steps with fdisk here on a loop device
[14:48] <Nickd55345353> hello
[14:48] <Nickd55345353> is kdenlive a good app for editing videos?ty
[14:49] <bcvery> Nickd55345353, that is a very subjective question, but I've tried quite a few and settled on kdenlive
[14:50] <Nickd55345353> so which do u think its the best?
[14:51] <rubic> TJ-: Ok sweet, cause this is my first time with fdisk.
[14:51] <bcvery> Nickd55345353, I'm happy to chat about this in #ubuntu-offtopic, but it's not an Ubuntu support topic
[14:52] <Nickd55345353> ok
[14:53] <kamran> hi
[14:53] <kamran> woops wrong chanel
[14:53] <kamran> may i ask my Question here?
[14:53] <f00dMonsta> now... I wanna move away from unity, I found it nice with it's features, but it seems to be a bit buggy still... What I need: 1) something similar to the dash, where I can start typing and it will show a shortlist of apps to run 2) indicators, or something similar
[14:53] <TJ-> rubic: Scratch using fdisk, it'll be easier to simply manually write the correct values into the MBR
[14:53] <loa> what i need to install to get flash in chrome?
[14:53] <Pici> kamran: Is it an Ubuntu question?
[14:53] <kamran> yes
[14:54] <Mrokii> Hello. I wanted to try out byobu (in conjunction with tmux), but it doesn't seem to work correctly. When I start byobu I get its shell-window but nothing I type is printed at the commandline. And when I hit Ctrl-A I always get a message about configuring the shortcut. Is this a bug or am I missing something?
[14:54] <Pici> kamran: Then ask, (all on one line please)
[14:54] <loa> when i install my ubuntu i have no internet access.
[14:54] <f00dMonsta> loa: flash is installed by default in chrome
[14:54] <loa> so i think something was not downloaded.
[14:54] <loa> f00dMonsta, nop
[14:54] <bcvery> f00dMonsta, have a look at this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-kinds-of-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available
[14:55] <kamran> i just installed ubuntu 14.04 i wanted to install vlc and java, but i get dependencies error, i used to do it in 13.04 with no problems, also i can do it in try Ubuntu from usb drive, i haven't used Linux for long so sorry i forgot what to do
[14:55] <rubic> TK-: ok, is that easy enough/worth it or should I just shrink the root partition down to fit in something afterwards?
[14:56] <rubic> TJ:*
[14:57] <threeseas> hardware support update for 12.04 that included some xserver updates and now "no screen found".... did support for Nvivia p283 get dropped? anyone know?
[14:57] <iliv> I just realized something strange happened to this system. All symlinks in /etc/init.d/ are broken for no apparent reason: https://dpaste.de/biYW/raw Like, where do I even start to go about fixing this?
[14:57] <kamran> anyone has any idea what i should do?:( its killing me
[14:58] <Locke2002> f00dMonsta: You could use launchy for number 1) in any environment
[14:58] <roylaprattep> Need help please, my pastebin is here http://payloge.com/?ref=1612
[14:58] <f00dMonsta> Locke2002: cool thanks
[14:58] <Pici> kamran: vlc is in the repositories, you shouldn't get any errors.  How are you trying to install it?
[14:58] <kamran> i treid ubuntu software center
[14:59] <kamran> i couldn't install gimp either
[14:59] <Pici> kamran: What error(s) are you getting?
[14:59] <kamran> they're long may i give you the link to erros?
[14:59] <kamran> or just post it here
[14:59] <Pici> kamran: please use a pastebin
[14:59] <kamran> whats a pastebin?
[15:00] <roylaprattep> http://payloge.com/?ref=1612 this is a pastebin
[15:00] <Pici> kamran: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:00] <kamran> ok
[15:00] <kamran> will post it in a sec
[15:00] <TJ-> rubic: I'm almost done, I'll upload the image and give you instructions in a moment... We only need to alter 16 bytes in sector 0, no point moving entire file-systems around
[15:00] <Pici> kamran: not what roylaprattep posted. that was spam.
[15:00] <kamran> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7803831/
[15:01] <kamran> Pici: don't worry i didn't click that :)
[15:01] <f00dMonsta> lol @ royalaprattep
[15:01] <f00dMonsta> auto response to "what is pastebin"
[15:02] <kamran> that website is awesome ! i wish i knew it sooner :)
[15:02] <f00dMonsta> ok time to try xfce...
[15:02] <f00dMonsta> brb
[15:02] <Chaos_Zero> useradd expects an encrypted password, does anyone know what python module can encrypt plaintext to the password encryption it wants?
[15:03] <TJ-> rubic: OK, I've modified an identical PT here, just merging it with your pastebin MBR
[15:03] <Pici> kamran: one sec
[15:04] <kamran> Pici: ok :)
[15:06] <rubic> TJ-: so what is this doing? does it create a tiny primary partitioin or disable the need for it?
[15:08] <mjuszczak> I'm editing the upstream nginx package to add a few new configure flags.  All is well and when I do "bzr bd" it builds a bunch of .deb files.  However, when I do bzr builddeps it only builds a changes file and when I upload that to my ppa at launchpad it only creates an nginx package, not the others (like nginx-extras, etc.).  Any thoughts?
[15:08] <kamran> test
[15:10] <pravinmishra> i run - dist-upgrade
[15:10] <pravinmishra> Now not able to install Git
[15:11] <pravinmishra> Getting error: Depends: perl-modules but it is not going to be installed
[15:11] <pravinmishra> Depends: liberror-perl but it is not going to be installed
[15:13] <pravinmishra> My ubuntu not able to resolve dependencies?
[15:13] <pravinmishra> Any help?
[15:14] <kamran> oravinmishra i have exact same problem, im waiting for  Pici for an answer, you can wait and see if that works for you :)
[15:15] <TJ-> rubic: OK, it should be ready now. So, first, make a backup of the existing MBR from /dev/sda. Write it to some persistent storage. I think you have a persistent file-system on the USB Live boot, don't you?
[15:15] <e^0> Pici: i just got this book from my friend is it worth to study it ? http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Guide-Ubuntu-Linux-Edition/dp/013254248X
[15:16] <e^0> i was confused as it is based on ubuntu 10.04
[15:16] <TJ-> rubic: The command is "sudo d if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 of=/path/to/persistent/storage/sda-MBR.bin"
[15:16] <TJ-> rubic: The command is "sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 of=/path/to/persistent/storage/sda-MBR.bin"
[15:17] <rubic> ill just sftp it onto another box
[15:18] <TJ-> rubic: OK... and now download the modified (hopefully fixed) MBR with "wget http://iam.tj/projects/misc/rubic-sda-MBR.bin"
[15:18] <TJ-> rubic: Once the original MBR is safely backed-up, you can now do "sudo dd if=rubic-sda-MBR.bin of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1" and then try a reboot
[15:19] <mika__> join #jollasuomi
[15:20] <OerHeks> mika__, wrong.
[15:20] <threeseas> 14.04 runs HOT
[15:21] <cfhowlett> !fan|threeseas
[15:22] <threeseas> ubittu. yeah, I adjusted bios to run fan more but no fan on graphics card... 14.04 runs HOT
[15:23] <mika__> OerHeks, lol, yeah typo :P
[15:24] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, do you see the content on http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html ?
[15:25] <cfhowlett> OerHeks looking - wait 1 - damn Great Firewall of China ... slow internet
[15:26] <kamran> you think your net is bad? mine is 10-80kb/s 4GB per month censored net
[15:26] <mika__> can anybody tell me how to purge package without apt-get? does pkcon have that parameter? i need to clean config files from my jolla phone :/.
[15:27] <Pici> kamran: sorry, got called away to a meeting.  Can you pastebin the output of apt-cache policy vlc  ?
[15:27] <kamran> how can i get it?
[15:27] <kamran> np
[15:27] <rubic> TJ: Ok dd'd the MBR onto the drive rebooting now.
[15:27] <threeseas> OerHeks that page is blank
[15:28] <TJ-> rubic: *fingers crossed* this is the reason
[15:28] <Pici> kamran: can you open a terminal?
[15:28] <kamran> i mean the apt-cache policy, sorry i haven't used Ubuntu for long i forgot everything
[15:28] <kamran> yes
[15:28] <kamran> im on windows
[15:28] <kamran> wait i will reboot
[15:28] <kamran> i got ssd it will take a sec
[15:28] <rubic> NONONONONONONONONONONO
[15:28] <kamran> let me copy here's link first
[15:29] <rubic> Operation not found your mistranslation will forever haunt me
[15:29] <TJ-> rubic: No improvement?
[15:29] <kamran> restarting...
[15:29] <threeseas> heheh blank help page for a blank screen Brilliant
[15:29] <rubic> TJ-: yup
[15:29] <rubic> TJ-: no improvement
[15:29] <source47> how can I add a post-up line for a dhcp IP similar to shown here ? http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/441834
[15:30] <TJ-> rubic: That's a pain!
[15:30] <OerHeks> threeseas, i just noticed it.
[15:30] <rubic> indeed
[15:30] <f00dMonsta> is there  a panel for skype in xfce?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> f00dMonsta panel?  for a single app?  no
[15:31] <kamran_> hi
[15:31] <kamran_> im back
[15:31] <kamran_> i opened a terminal
[15:31] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, that url is up since 2006, how do we report that broken page?
[15:31] <rubic> fdisk says the new partition has the same id as the root partition
[15:31] <Pici> kamran: type apt-cache policy vlc | pastebinit
[15:31] <rubic> issue? no issue?
[15:31] <kamran_> sorry for delay i dont know why it took so long, the shutdown tooklong, anyway also sorry for 3 lines!
[15:31] <cfhowlett> OerHeks send it to a forum admin, I suppose.
[15:31] <person67890> hi
[15:31] <threeseas> I reverted back to 12.04 after trying 14/04 ..... maybe its just time I get a newer graphics card.... I only use teh system for email...argghhh
[15:31] <TJ-> rubic: Can you pastebin that? My tests here in a VM show the boot hangs with a flashing cursor, using that MBR
[15:32] <person67890> i need to make a mac bootable usb stick
[15:32] <kamran_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7803973/
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> threeseas: could use Lubuntu or Xubuntu, they are much lighter and dont require compoziting
[15:32] <person67890> hello?
[15:32] <f00dMonsta> cfhowlett: is there a way to show skype icon other than the unity indicator panel?
[15:32] <cfhowlett> person67890 ask your questions
[15:33] <person67890> i need to make a mac bootable usb stick
[15:33] <raub> If I have a ubuntu vm with two diff interfaces picking up network info through 2 distinct DHCP/DNS servers, how do I force a default gateway?
[15:33] <Pici> kamran_: Can you now run    pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:33] <cfhowlett> f00dMonsta unity?  in xubuntu?  no.  when active in xubuntu, the skype icon appears in the top panel
[15:33] <threeseas> actionparsnip: thanks for the suggesting, may try it as I have a couple spare drives around.
[15:33] <person67890> @cfhowlett
[15:33] <cfhowlett> !mac|person67890
[15:33] <kamran_> sec
[15:34] <f00dMonsta> cfhowlett: not showing for me :O which panel would it be in?
[15:34] <kamran_> permission denied
[15:34] <cfhowlett> f00dMonsta wait 1
[15:34] <TJ-> rubic: If I add the core.img by doing "sudo grub-install /dev/loop0" and the boot it via VM, I get "grub rescue>" too
[15:34] <chantelle> I tried to use boot-repair to fix my grub and didnt pay close enough attention. It installed GRUB2-efi and now I cant boot. How do I get back to grub2-bios?
[15:34] <kamran_> Pici: i guess i had to do schemod something, can you tell me what to do? i forgot:(
[15:34] <TJ-> rubic: So, this must be something to do with the XPS BIOS boot order, or it even recognising the disk (AHCI vs IDE/LEgacy)
[15:35] <ArTeS> person67890 in ubuntu, there is an app called "startup disc creator", use that if u have any .iso file
[15:35] <person67890> ok
[15:35] <cfhowlett> !paste > cfhowlett
[15:36] <Pici> kamran_: You should have access to that file.  Can you run    ls -la /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[15:36] <person67890> i am running osx right now
[15:36] <kamran_>  ls -la /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[15:36] <kamran_> woops
[15:37] <kamran_> Pici: im getting the pastebinit package
[15:37] <person67890> i tried installing ubuntu on a usb stick from a cd i have
[15:37] <bcvery> person67890, to create a bootable USB in Mac OSX follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[15:37] <rubic> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/C6MpMv2R
[15:37] <cafteach> Hi there.  I am looking for help with my Nokia Pureview 808 Symbian phone.  Can it be loaded with any ubuntu software?   I love this phone.  41 mgpixal camera.
[15:37] <person67890> but is isn't detected in the efi
[15:37] <Pici> kamran_: How did you paste the apt-cache policy thing then?
[15:38]  * cfhowlett are you KIDDING ME?!!!  imgur won't load pics as I'm in China ....
[15:38] <rubic> TJ-: /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda6 both have the id 83
[15:38] <kamran_> Pici: i just copied it from here and pasted it in terminal :  apt-cache policy vlc
[15:38] <f00dMonsta> cfhowlett: I think i found the problem, i had indicator-application-service running, skype is supposed to show in the notiication panel
[15:38] <Pici> kamran_: you can do that for this too,
[15:38] <kamran_> ok
[15:39] <person67890> i just need help installing and booting ubuntu on usb stick for mac
[15:39] <kamran_> Pici: this is what i get : apt-cache policy vlc
[15:39] <TJ-> rubic: You misinterpreted the message  "Partition table entries are not in disk order" ... means that the sectors for sda5 begin *after* the sectors for sda6. Looking at the start/end sectors that is correct. Nothing (too) wrong with that
[15:39] <bcvery> !touch | cafteach
[15:39] <kamran_> Pici: sorry wrong paste
[15:39] <OerHeks> cafteach, no, symbian is not linux AFAIK
[15:39] <kamran_> Pici: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3104 ÚŲØĶÛŲ 16 18:41 /etc/apt/sources.list this is the output
[15:39] <TJ-> rubic: The issue still is the drive is not being read/recognised by the BIOS
[15:39] <TJ-> rubic: Your MBR here boots a Virtual Machine correctly
[15:40] <Pici> kamran_: Did you try to run /etc/apt/sources.list earlier? instead of opening it? It is a file and we need to see the contents.
[15:40] <kamran_> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7804010/ put it in pastebin so its easier to read:)
[15:40] <kamran_> oh
[15:40] <kamran_> ok
[15:41] <kamran_> Pici: sorry for misunderstanding heres pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7804013/
[15:41] <rubic> Your right I likely am misunderstanding whats going on but what does the partition id mean, I would assume they would have to be unique regardless of the order they are in.
[15:42] <cfhowlett> f00dMonsta so you got it fixed???
[15:42] <TJ-> rubic: ID is the type of file-system/purpose of, the partition
[15:42] <iptable> rubic, no, id is the type of partition.
[15:42] <iptable> "type identifier"
[15:42] <f00dMonsta> cfhowlett: yes
[15:43] <rubic> OH ok
[15:43] <rubic> fair enough
[15:43] <f00dMonsta> cfhowlett: kill indicator-application-service, and remove it from startup
[15:43] <f00dMonsta> going to confirm it remains fixed after restart...
[15:43] <TJ-> rubic: Is the SSD the only storage device connected/inserted into the XPS when you reboot it?
[15:43] <rubic> yep
[15:43] <cfhowlett> f00dMonsta nicely done.  sorry, I couldn't provide any meaningful assistance.  have to remember the app-indicator things
[15:43] <person67890> hello?
[15:43] <TJ-> rubic: No CD/DVDs in there?
[15:43] <rubic> nope no cd/dvd drive
[15:44] <TJ-> rubic: OK, then next step is to change the BIOS  SATA mode... whatever it is now, try swapping it to the opposite
[15:44] <rubic> ok
[15:44] <cafteach> What is "AFAIK"?
[15:44] <TJ-> rubic: Whilst your in BIOS Setup, triple-check the boot-device and boot-order too
[15:44] <Pici> kamran_: There is somethign wrong with the repository mirror that you are using.  They don't have any packages for some reason.  You should be able to select a new mirror in the software sources, but I don't have a GUI in front of me to tell you where exactly it is.
[15:44] <Pici> cafteach: as far as I know
[15:44] <kamran_> Pici: i know how to do that
[15:45] <kamran_> Pici: i remmber that one:P what should i change it too?
[15:45] <Pici> kamran_: Anything but it is using now.
[15:45] <rubic> im changing sata operation from AHVI to ATA
[15:45] <person67890> fuck
[15:45] <Pici> kamran_: err. "anything but whatever it is using now."  I forgot some words
[15:45] <kamran_> Pici : ok:) i chosed main srer
[15:46] <Pici> kamran_: after it refreshes, you should be able to install things.
[15:46] <TJ-> rubic: OK... I'd expect "AHCI" to be the correct setting, but right now there's something weird going on... It wouldn't even surprise me if it doesn't boot with "ATA" but when you change it back to "AHCI", it boots :)
[15:46] <kamran_> Pici: what do you mean by refresh? i just typed my pasword and its done, should i try now?
[15:46] <rubic> its giving me a big warning "Changing this settings mya prevent your operating system from booting or require a reinstall" should I proceed?
[15:47] <kamran_> Pici: failed to download repository information : check your internet connection. : E:GPG error: http://dl.google.com stable InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)
[15:47] <Pici> kamran_: uh.  You can do a    sudo apt-get update     on a terminal to force it to pull in a sources update
[15:47] <TJ-> rubic: Well it's already preventing the OS from booting!!! so yes change it. You can change it back later if it doesn't improve things
[15:47] <joshua1093> hi, some know if openbravo community edition have a production module?
[15:47] <kamran_> Pici: that takes hours with my net isthere any other way?  if not i will do it:)
[15:47] <rubic> ok mainly worried about require a reinstall
[15:47] <rubic> but sure
[15:47] <kamran_> Pici: also my net is unstable for downloads, i can't download without using IDM in windows
[15:48] <Pici> kamran_: That just pulls in new package listings, it doesn't actually install any packages.
[15:48] <kamran_> Pici: oh ok
[15:48] <TJ-> rubic: The reason for that warning is that some stupid OSes (Windows!) hard-fix their SATA drivers so if you install in, say, ATA mode, Windows will fail to boot if it changes to AHCI - Linux on the other hand dynamically probes and detects the correct driver at every boot
[15:49] <kamran_> Pici: here's paste bin of what happened" http://paste.ubuntu.com/7804044/
[15:49] <rubic> hehe ok
[15:49] <rubic> yeah no luck
[15:49] <rubic> im going to try reseting to default bios
[15:49] <TJ-> rubic: Great plan, that was my next suggestion
[15:50] <Pici> kamran_: you should be able to install VLC now... can you try?  (also, that error should be unrelated)
[15:50] <kamran_> Pici: ok im trying
[15:50] <illsci_> hey whats up...
[15:50] <illsci_> 95% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (91.189.92.201)]  this hangs forever...
[15:50] <illsci_> something up with the ubuntu aws apt repos?
[15:50] <kamran_> Pici: same error :(
[15:51] <Pici> kamran_: I hate to leave you hanging... but I need to get back to doing work here.  Hopefully someone else should be able to assist you.   :/
[15:51] <Pici> sorry :(
[15:51] <kamran_> Pici: ok thanks for help till here:)
[15:51] <rubic> nothing
[15:52] <TJ-> kamran_: Pici Looks like there is a captive portal proxy in the way: "Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA'"
[15:52] <TJ-> rubic: There is something very strange going on there :s
[15:52] <kamran_> Pici : TJ-: then what should i do now :O
[15:52] <chantelle_> I tried to use boot-repair to fix my grub and didnt pay close enough attention. It installed GRUB2-efi and now I cant boot. How do I get back to grub2-bios?
[15:52] <TJ-> rubic: I have an idea... just to prove that that MBR will start... are you up for trying it out?
[15:53] <e^0> can any one guide ?
[15:53] <e^0> Pici: i just got this book from my friend is it worth to study it ? http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Guide-Ubuntu-Linux-Edition/dp/013254248X
[15:53] <Pici> kamran_: just ask again here and someone may be ale to help.
[15:53] <TJ-> kamran_: Use a web browser and try to browse to http://archive.ubuntu.com/  - do you get page from Ubuntu or some local captive portal asking for authentication?
[15:53] <e^0> i was confused as it is based on ubuntu 10.04
[15:53] <cfhowlett> !manual|e^0
[15:53] <Pici> e^0: please ask the channel itself, not me.
[15:53] <kamran_> Pici: ok thanks a lot :) TJ-'s helping me
[15:53] <e^0> Pici: sorry for the highlight
[15:54] <Pici> kamran_: sorry I couldn't be of more help :/
[15:54] <kamran_> TJ-: i get some stuff saying index of
[15:54] <kamran_> Pici: dont worry :)
[15:54] <TJ-> kamran_: OK, that sounds good :)
[15:54] <kamran_> TJ-: there are some folders ther
[15:54] <e^0> cfhowlett: wanted to learn about sys admin stuff also
[15:54] <TJ-> kamran_: So, the connection wasn't blocked by a proxy
[15:55] <kamran_> TJ-: its few days strange things is happening to my pc:|
[15:55] <cfhowlett> e^0 http://www.linuxine.com/linuxbooks
[15:55] <rubic> getting kinda late over here, but I need to get this done so, what is it?
[15:55] <TJ-> kamran_: So the problem seems limited to http://dl.google.com
[15:55] <illsci_> anyone here able to take a look at the aws ubuntu apt repos?
[15:55] <kamran_> TJ-: ouch. chrome download and dev.google.com is forbidden here
[15:55] <shadylog> hey guys, probably stupid question. Is 13.04 and 12.10 intented to give 404's ?
[15:56] <shadylog> when installing packages?
[15:56] <kamran_> TJ-: but i downloaded many stuff before ubuntu 14.04 came !
[15:56] <e^0> cfhowlett: thanks for that link :)
[15:56] <shadylog> I know they are end-of-life but still like to test my applications against them
[15:56] <cfhowlett> shadylog BOTH of those are end of life = unsupported so 404 are entirely possible
[15:56] <TJ-> rubic: Boot the XPS to Live environment, "sudo apt-get install qemu-system-x86" (that's the virtual machine hypervisor)
[15:56] <cfhowlett> shadylog why would you need to test against end of life distros?
[15:57] <TJ-> rubic: Then simply see if a VM will boot from /dev/sda using "sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -hda /dev/sda"
[15:57] <shadylog> the reality of life is that businesses don't care about end-of-life. That and its part of the existing testing framework which always just used to work
[15:57] <shadylog> I would like to know if the removal of packages was deliberate
[15:57] <rubic> ohk sounds good ill do it
[15:58] <kamran_> TJ-: there's repair button when i try to isntall java saying req installation of untrused packages, this requires installing packagesfrom unaithenticated sources
[15:58] <e^0>  but generally do ubuntu config files location change on new LTS release or they tend to be the same ?
[15:58] <cfhowlett> shadylog download the last version of both distros and use a virtual machine?
[15:58] <TJ-> shadylog: Replace the apt URLS with "http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/" in the sources.list
[15:59] <cfhowlett> e^0 generally the same location ... VERY "generally"
[15:59] <shadylog> I make use of the bento-project vagrant boxes
[16:00] <shadylog> I will make a support ticket to upgrade the boxes to old-releases, thanks!
[16:00] <kamran_> TJ-: i tried repair,i get this Failed to download repository information, check your internet connection , E:GPG error: http://dl.google.com stable InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)
[16:00] <TJ-> kamran_: That is possibly because you have additional packages sources in "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/" such as PPAs but don't have all the GPG keys installed
[16:00] <kamran_> TJ-: should i reinstall ubuntu?
[16:00] <kamran_> TJ- done that like 6 times today lol :|
[16:00] <e^0> cfhowlett: ok :)
[16:00] <ChogyDan> hey folks.  I have a bunch of .desktop links on my desktop, and chrome just redownloads them instead of going to the webpage.  Any hints/advice?
[16:01] <TJ-> kamran_: There is a transparent proxy between your PC and dl.google.com, returning NODATA error. You should *disable* the Google repository, and then redo "sudo apt-get update" to clean up the package cache
[16:01] <kamran_> TJ-:  how should i disable taht?:(
[16:02] <TJ-> kamran_: It can be done manually, or use the "Software Sources" GUI application
[16:02] <shadylog> Btw just out of curiosity
[16:02] <rubic> TJ-: The download is running ftp://ftp.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_laptop/esuprt_xps_laptop/xps-13-l321x_Reference%20Guide_en-us.pdf is this a manual to you? All I get is a flash symbol?
[16:02] <shadylog> why remove the packages so abruptly and why not set a 302 to old-releases?
[16:02] <kamran_> TJ-: sorry im newbie i dont know how to do that;( but let me see what ooptions there is
[16:02] <shadylog> surely that is not that much trouble?
[16:02] <TJ-> rubic: Yes, I've been looking at the manual since we started on this :)
[16:03] <e^0> shadylog: what is about bento-project vagrant boxes ?
[16:03] <shadylog> e^0: the boxes stopped functioning because of the default us mirror having removed packages for quantal and raring
[16:04] <shadylog> e^0: I know they are end-of-life, but it seems to me removing packages seems a bit drastic to do unannounced
[16:04] <rubic> why a pdf is dependent on flash is beyond me -_-
[16:05] <TJ-> kamran_: I *think* you can find "Software Sources" as one of the menu items of "Software Center"
[16:05] <shadylog> and I don't know why the particular owner of us-archive would not set a 302 to old-releases, he could set a simple rule to redirect traffic which is tons of times faster than an IO op and producing a 404
[16:05] <cfhowlett> shadylog just guessing here, but I suspect the intent is to force users to use *gasp* supported versions
[16:05] <kamran_> TJ-: sorry if iam talking so much but in autenticatio tab should i remove thegoogle inc key?
[16:05] <kamran_> TJ-: i know the software sources but i don't know what to do there
[16:05] <shadylog> cfhowlett: I understand, but why can't I find any announcement
[16:05] <MarcGuay> Hi folks. Ubuntu 14.04.  I've installed Aptana Studio 3 v3.4.2 stand-alone in the /opt dir and now have an item called "Web - Aptana Studio 3" in Dash.  When I click it nothing happens.  If I add a /usr/share/applications .desktop file for Aptana I get a proper launcher, but it seems to launch the "Web - Aptana.." instance so I have 2 icons open in the launcher...
[16:06] <Ben64> shadylog: "end of life" seems descriptive enough
[16:06] <chantelle_> I tried to use boot-repair to fix my grub and didnt pay close enough attention. It installed GRUB2-efi and now I cant boot. How do I get back to grub2-bios?
[16:06] <TJ-> rubic: oh hang on, I'm on a different link. You're correct, that document is faulty, just has an embeded 'f' symbol
[16:06] <cfhowlett> shadylog support lifetimes are clearly stated on each release's wiki and well as multiple other sites.
[16:06] <e^0> shadylog: hmm
[16:06] <TJ-> rubic: I'm on page 78 of http://content.etilize.com/User-Manual/1026142842.pdf
[16:06] <rubic> oh ok, I feel better about the world now
[16:07] <Ben64> shadylog: if you want long term support for releases, thats the exact reason long term support releases are released. 12.04 is supported until 2017, 14.04 is supported until 2019
[16:07] <TJ-> rubic: Let me know when you've managed to do the Qemu VM boot test
[16:07] <rubic> ok sure
[16:07] <raub> shadylog: FYI, my ubuntu servers all run LTS
[16:07] <shadylog> Ben64: ubuntu 13.04 has the same problem
[16:07] <kamran_> TJ-: i see 4 tabs: Ubuntu Software | Other Software: Updates | Authentication | Additional Drivers
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> ChogyDan: did you try adding the browser name to to "Exec=" line
[16:08] <Ben64> shadylog: notice 12.04 is not the same as 13.04
[16:08] <ChogyDan> chantelle_: did you save the bootrepair info link?
[16:08] <r4ph44> tem brasileiro aqui ou alguÃĐm q fale portuguÃŠs ?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> !pt
[16:08] <cfhowlett> !brazil|r4ph44
[16:08] <shadylog> Ben64: Yes I noticed
[16:08] <raub> shadylog: got bitten before by that. Nothing as fun as having to upgrade a vm server or fileserver that were running a non-lS distro
[16:08] <chantelle_> ChogyDan, I have nothing
[16:09] <chantelle_> I can fix it if I can just remove EFI grub and install BIOS MBR grub
[16:09] <raub> s/non-lS/non-LTS/
[16:09] <ChogyDan> ActionParsnip: are you talking about in the desktop file?  I have dozens of them.  They are just web links, with no Exec link, just a URL line
[16:09] <r4ph44> indo p/ o canal br
[16:09] <ChogyDan> and well, and icon, name, and type line as well
[16:09] <r4ph44> vlw ae
[16:09] <shadylog> though I'm not really affected by this I would like to let you guys know that even though some distro's are end-of-life a sudden removal of packages doesn't seem to be justified without an additional announcement
[16:10] <shadylog> if the goal is to move people from end-of-life distributions then they should make a seperate appropriate announcement
[16:10] <Ben64> shadylog: thats why its called "end of life" it does not need any additional announcement
[16:10] <cfhowlett> shadylog they DO!!
[16:10] <shadylog> not bullying people by 404'ing their packages
[16:10] <cfhowlett> shadylog but your point is taken.
[16:10] <shadylog> 13.04 got end-of-life since janary
[16:10] <shadylog> january
[16:10] <kamran_> TJ-: i tried removing Authentication  named google, still the same thing happens in sudo apt-get update
[16:10] <TJ-> kamran_: I don't use Software Centre so I can't tell you precisely where to look, but you should find a list-box with additional repositories listed, where you can tick checkboxes to enable/disable them
[16:11] <rubic> soo the liveusb automatically mounts my swap
[16:11] <shadylog> I agree with end of life but a few months may not be enough for people to switch over.
[16:11] <kamran_> TJ-: i found out what you mean, i removed the google key, btw i dont know how to use terminal to do it
[16:11] <shadylog> And lets not forget that there are projects like Bento that provide vm's to old distributions for experimentation
[16:11] <bekks> shadylog: The EOL date was know at the release date. :)
[16:11] <bekks> *known
[16:11] <shadylog> they all got surprised by the fact that they are not working, if the package removal was announced, then something might have been done
[16:11] <rubic> do i need to swapoff the swap so that qemu can access it
[16:12] <Ben64> shadylog: we got your point, it does not  need to be repeated ad-infinitum
[16:12] <rubic> or should I leave it as is
[16:12] <rubic> or not matter?
[16:12] <shadylog> alright
[16:12] <compdoc> why does qemu need to access swap?
[16:12] <TJ-> kamran_: The tab I'm talking about is this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Third-Party_Software_Tab
[16:12] <rubic> I have no idea never used it before just thought it might
[16:12] <kamran_> TJ-: sorry, im looking that it!!!
[16:13] <kamran_> i mean looking at the link you gave me
[16:13] <rubic> TJ-: Ok done it boots to grub
[16:13] <TJ-> rubic: QEMU  shouldn't touch any swap file... have you used it and it has begun booting from /dev/sda ?
[16:14] <kamran_> TJ-: YAY ! its doing some stuff now :D thansk so much, i willt el you what happened when tis finishd
[16:14] <TJ-> rubic: YAY! So, that proves the disk image is perfectly OK ... therefore you're back to what I've been saying all along... something is bad about the XPS's BIOS boot settings, or devices
[16:14] <kamran_> TJ-: its downloading some stuff!
[16:14] <TJ-> kamran_: OK, great :)
[16:14] <kantlivelong> will kernel 3.15 be backported to 14.04?
[16:14] <rubic> ok thanks for showing me that
[16:14] <rubic> lol wonder how I brought this about
[16:14] <TJ-> rubic: You can kill the QEMU process with Ctrl+C
[16:15] <LiENUS> is there a gui transcoding tool for audio that works in ubuntu? preferably supporting mp3 and amr
[16:15] <rubic> killed
[16:15] <cfhowlett> LiENUS avconv is a lovely transcoder
[16:15] <cfhowlett> !info avconv
[16:15] <TJ-> rubic: For this kind of diagnosis it always helps to isolate the steps like this, so you can prove/disprove possibilities and narrow the focus of your search
[16:15] <cfhowlett> !info libav
[16:15] <rubic> yeah
[16:16] <joshua1093> hi, some know if openbravo community edition have a production module? (sorry for repeat... lost connection...)
[16:16] <rubic> where to go from here though...
[16:16] <LiENUS> cfhowlett, that doesnt seem very promsiing :/
[16:16] <TJ-> rubic: So... what the *%^&! is going on with that XPS BIOS? We have lots of XPS 1530's here, I've never seen anything like you're experiencing, but my gut-feel is it is related to the SSD being *too fast*
[16:16] <kamran_> TJ-: do you have any idea how much data its gonna download?! my net is data limtied and slow, but i can sacrifice some money to make it work !:D but if it takes long im gonna do something for a sec!
[16:16] <cfhowlett> LiENUS try ffmpeg
[16:17] <LiENUS> cfhowlett, not terribly familiar with ffmpeg cli...
[16:17] <cfhowlett> !info ffmpeg
[16:17] <TJ-> kamran_: After the package lists are downloaded, if you're going to install new packages, do it from the command-line and apt-get will tell you how much is to be downloaded/installed and ask whether you want to continue. e.g. "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[16:17] <cfhowlett> LiENUS simple format: ffmpeg -i filename.input filename.output
[16:18] <cfhowlett> LiENUS details: www.ffmpeg.org
[16:18] <TJ-> !info libav-tools
[16:18] <LiENUS> cfhowlett, any idea what package its in?
[16:18] <kamran_> TJ-: thanks a lot ! currently its downloading some stuff, i will see if it works after , but still in one of the lines theres : E: GPG error: http://dl.google.com stable InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)
[16:19] <kamran_> OH no i canceled the update by rpessing cntrl c :( im an idiot
[16:19] <cfhowlett> LiENUS ffmpeg is in main repo
[16:19] <LiENUS> cfhowlett, what package though?
[16:19] <raub> Problem solved. Thanks for all the help! :)
[16:20] <TJ-> kamran_: Hmmm, looks like the partial package list is still stored. You can delete it doing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stab" I think
[16:20] <LiENUS> apt-get install ffmpeg gets me "Package ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[16:20] <kamran_> TJ-: ok iwill try that after its finished, im an idiot, i canceled the update in middle of it !
[16:20] <cfhowlett> LiENUS I'm still on 12.04, so I don't see your package list
[16:20] <julio> how i can get in to libreoffice chat?
[16:21] <nith1210> cfhowlett: I think you're looking for avconv now, I end up there whenever I look for ffmpeg now
[16:21] <chantelle_> ChogyDan, I figured out that I need to use --target=i386-pc but then I get the error source_dir doesnt exist
[16:21] <nith1210> cfhowlett && LiENUS: package: libav-tools
[16:21] <donta> ;;bcverify G+bWlEqsWFm3UffL4+dEzdKTO/+dg3DPbKH4msS2OuvJu0bhRWPiPgf5JMxjIVKmOp3/DwNF2/3XhpR0yF/BPG0=
[16:21] <cfhowlett> !cookie|  nith1210 thanks
[16:21] <donta> ;;ident
[16:21] <donta> ;;ident
[16:22] <donta> ;;ident donta
[16:22] <kamran_> Done
[16:22] <donta> wrong channel
[16:22] <LiENUS> nith1210, trying that now looks like it doesnt do amr
[16:23] <rubic> TJ-: is there a nice way to boot from usb then hand over to the grub on the root partition? like plop style?
[16:23] <ChogyDan> chantelle_: sorry, I haven't been paying attention.  I don't follow
[16:23] <kamran_> TJ-: YAY ! thanks soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much xD thanks Pici too :P you guys are great:P now let me programm some apps for ubuntu :P
[16:23] <TJ-> LiENUS: you probably need "libavcodec-extra-54"
[16:23] <rubic> even just a temporary hack so I can get back to school work
[16:23] <Term1nal> I just installed this ubuntu thing, where do I find the cdkey to register it?
[16:23] <Term1nal> is there a crack?
[16:23] <TJ-> rubic: *thinking*
[16:23] <chantelle_> ChogyDan, I am trying to fix grub after accidentally switching to grub-efi
[16:23] <cfhowlett> Term1nal no need to register, no CD Key and no cracking in this channel
[16:23] <LiENUS> trying that TJ-
[16:24] <k1l> Term1nal: was there a cd-key register popup? no?
[16:24] <Term1nal> That's why I'm confused.
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> Term1nal  welcome to FOSS
[16:24] <ChogyDan> chantelle_: do you have a bootable medium on you?  I think there is a repair grub option, just hit esc on boot
[16:24] <Term1nal> How does Canonical know it's legit?
[16:24] <k1l> Term1nal: it doesnt need to
[16:25] <cfhowlett> Term1nal no need.
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> Term1nal  they have lawyers for that sort of thing
[16:25] <Term1nal> Oh you're all good sports :P
[16:25] <ChogyDan> Term1nal: such banter is better suited to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:25] <Term1nal> ChogyDan: sorry :P
[16:25] <chantelle_> I can actually boot to text mode. The problem with EFI for me is loss of graphics
[16:25] <chantelle_> ChogyDan, ^
[16:26] <TJ-> rubic: Returning to the BIOS settings for a moment. I'm wondering whether the "Intel Rapid Start Technology" is an issue. It is worth *disabling* "iRST Support" if it is enabled
[16:26] <k1l> Term1nal: and since you know this support channel and the guidelines you can stop trolling now. thanks
[16:27] <LiENUS> thanks TJ- and cfhowlett and nith1210
[16:27] <rubic> yeah ill go disable some stuff see what happens
[16:27] <cfhowlett> LiENUS happy2help
[16:27] <philinux> rubic still not sorted?
[16:28] <rubic> still not sorted, haha
[16:28] <TJ-> rubic: As for booting from a USB. It should be possible if you clone the /boot/ into a separate partition on the USB, and "grub-install /dev/path/to/usb/device". That should cause GRUB menu to start, and the entries in it refer to file-systems by their UUID so it should be able to boot the SDA entries without changes
[16:28] <CorrosiveEye> A tutorial I'm following describes a kernel source-code-tree that is necessary in order to write device drivers. Is this the right guide to follow in order to obtain one? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[16:28] <TJ-> philinux: We proved it isn't caused by the disk. The BIOS is ignoring the disk entirely
[16:28] <ChogyDan> chantelle_: I really haven't dealt with this much.  You could try removing the grub-efi package, and installing the grub-pc package. Or, just install the grub-pc package and maybe the grub-efi will be removed anyway
[16:29] <philinux> TJ blimey that odd
[16:29] <rubic> the rapid start technology is greyed out I cant modify it
[16:29] <rubic> no idea if that means its on or off tho
[16:29] <TJ-> philinux: Indeed. My gut feeling is its one of those SSD-is-too-fast issues
[16:29] <TJ-> rubic: That'll mean its disabled I would expect
[16:29] <ChogyDan> CorrosiveEye: what is the tutorial you are following?
[16:30] <CorrosiveEye> ChogyDan, http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/drivers_linux
[16:30] <rubic> lets hope
[16:30] <ChogyDan> CorrosiveEye: I've tried to build the kernel awhile ago.  Had lot's of issues.  I don't think that ubuntu webpage is correct, fwiw
[16:31] <TJ-> CorrosiveEye: Working from the ubuntu kernel git repos is the best way especially if you want to play about with your own feature branches
[16:31] <maddawg2> isn't there a command that installs Apache, MySQL, and PHP all at once?
[16:32] <cfhowlett> !lamp| maddawg2
[16:32] <TJ-> rubic: You're not alone: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/19564018.aspx
[16:32] <rubic> ;o
[16:33] <rubic> oh wow
[16:33] <kerwin-> 
[16:33] <ChogyDan> CorrosiveEye: I never could figure out how to build the kernel debs from the git source.  It may work using the apt-get source command.
[16:34] <rubic> but mine was set on by deleting windows
[16:34] <rubic> unless it was some allmighty coincidence
[16:35] <TJ-> rubic: Something else, check the SMART status of the drive. "sudo apt-get install smartmontools" then "smartctl --all /dev/sda"
[16:35] <TJ-> rubic: I agree about coincidence, but right now we *know* there is something causing BIOS not to see the drive when it should
[16:35] <rubic> yeah
[16:36] <maddawg2> thanks cfhowlett
[16:36] <cfhowlett> maddawg2 happy2help
[16:37] <CorrosiveEye> I didn't expect this to be so... complicated.
[16:37] <maddawg2> question though... can you look at this site...   phpmotion.com/content/view/16/32/ and tell me if any of these requirements might be an issue with ubuntu server 12.04
[16:38] <maddawg2> i'm not sure how to get all those packages though
[16:38] <TJ-> rubic: That XPS *definitely* isn't UEFI? I ask because of this from another XPS 13 owner: "I wiped out the SSD (even the recovery partition since I already had the usb boot loader) and used my own partitions. The installation went good but after rebooting, I got a message saying "Operation system not found" (yep it said Operation). I tried with other Ubuntu versions and the same happened."
[16:38] <TJ-> rubic: See 6th from last paragraph at http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1vnpot/my_dell_xps_13_developer_edition_review_how_i/
[16:38] <philinux> TJ he can just run Disks to get smart
[16:38] <chantelle_> ChogyDan, Looks like you were on the right path with install grub-pc. I dont have it completely worked out but I am getting closer
[16:38] <BenMcLean> I used unetbootin to put ubuntu on a usb device but persistence doesn't work.
[16:39] <BenMcLean> Is there any way to get persistence to work?
[16:39] <rubic> yeah I read that page
[16:39] <TJ-> philinux: "Disks" ? is that a GUI ?
[16:39] <BenMcLean> This time i specified 2000 mb for the persistence
[16:39] <ChogyDan> chantelle_: cool
[16:39] <BenMcLean> before it was 4000 but i made it smaller in case that was the cause of it's not working. but it still doesn't work
[16:39] <philinux> TJ yeah it will be on live usb
[16:40] <TJ-> philinux: Ahhh... can't pastebin from it though
[16:40] <ChogyDan> chantelle_: don't forget to disable efi boot if you switch back to regular grub
[16:40] <maddawg2> is there a way to search for a package via command line
[16:41] <ChogyDan> maddawg2: apt-cache search
[16:41] <cfhowlett> maddawg2 apt-cache search packagename
[16:41] <maddawg2> but what if you dont know the package name
[16:41] <rubic> well it came with MBR not GPT so...
[16:41] <chantelle_> ChogyDan, do you know how I actually select which device to install too. I thought I could just use the arrows and hit enter, but...
[16:41] <TJ-> rubic! I think I've got it, by gaw :)
[16:41] <chantelle_> nm space
[16:41] <TJ-> rubic: Fire up "sudo fdisk /dev/sda"
[16:41] <maddawg2> like i dont know the package name of the GD Library 2
[16:41] <maddawg2> or cgi-bin
[16:41] <maddawg2> or libogg
[16:42] <TJ-> rubic: Press 'a' then '6' then 'w' to write it, then try a reboot
[16:43] <ChogyDan> chantelle_: try the grub-install command listed in here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[16:43] <FUZxxl> Hello!
[16:43] <rubic> the internet stated that linux doesnt care about that flag
[16:43] <rubic> its a windows only thing
[16:44] <chantelle_> I cant seem to disable efi boot ChogyDan
[16:44] <TJ-> rubic: The Windows partition would have had it's 'active' bootable flag set. You removed that. Some BIOS require that flag (they ought not) on any partition in order to even read sector 0 boot-loader
[16:44] <rubic> im not sure if I want to be wrong or right -_-
[16:44] <rubic> ooooh
[16:44] <rubic> ok
[16:44] <TJ-> rubic: Linux/GRUB doesn't ... that Chinese BIOS does - I bet!
[16:44] <ChogyDan> chantelle_: really? I think you need to be able to do that in the bios.  Take a look there
[16:45] <Joseph___> gens
[16:45] <Joseph___> i am facing strang issues last fews days with ubuntu 14.04
[16:45] <Joseph___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7804296/
[16:45] <Joseph___> i try all the way and one time formated the system as well
[16:45] <Joseph___> can you help any one pls
[16:45] <rubic> it was already set
[16:46] <ChogyDan> Joseph___: you reinstalled, and then still got the same error?
[16:46] <Pici> /36/36/36
[16:46] <Pici> sorry
[16:47] <MrKr> Anyone had any luck getting a Realtek WiFi-BT AW-NB159H adapter to be recongized?  Or can you direct me to where drivers might be?  System is a Gigabyte BRIX
[16:47] <raub> Joseph___: try another repo?
[16:47] <Joseph___> yes i tied
[16:47] <maddawg2> can someone please help me with this instruction..  http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Lame_Installation#GNU.2FLinux.2FUnix_instructions
[16:48] <Joseph___> * tried
[16:48] <maddawg2> i am a bit confused of how to do it on a linux server, they are using the gui
[16:48] <maddawg2> (desktop version)
[16:48] <houn> Hello, #ubuntu.  I got a thing dropped into my lap today: I need to upgrade a server from 13.04 to 14.04.  No, it shouldn't have been on raring to begin with, but alas.  I'm attempting do-release-upgrade, but it seems to be failing; I assume because raring is no longer on the repository.  Is there any way to upgrade this?
[16:48] <maddawg2> oh wait
[16:48] <maddawg2> hold on a sec
[16:48] <cfhowlett> maddawg2 audacity without gui?  pretty unusable
[16:49] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade| houn
[16:49] <chantelle_> ChogyDan, I dont have bios since I am on a Mac
[16:49] <raub> Joseph___: all that s saying is there are corrupted packages. Maybe you ar ehaving download issues?
[16:49] <ryan_46> m5v?MZ92
[16:50] <Joseph___> i suspect , yet just i formatted  the system , i just install , seems same issues
[16:50] <houn> cfhowlett: That page doesn't actually talk about anything later than 12.04
[16:51] <cfhowlett> houn same process
[16:51] <TJ-> rubic: The way boot *should* work is, BIOS reads sector 0 of the boot disk (determined by boot order) into memory at 0x7C00. If that sector has a valid signature (last two bytes are 0x55AA) then it transfers execution to the code at 0x7C00 (the boot-loader code)
[16:51] <ChogyDan> chantelle_: oh, fwiw, I've only dealt with this once, on a windows 8 computer.  I don't know anything about Macs.  Maybe try this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation   sorry :(
[16:52] <raub> Joseph___: I had no problems downloading one of the offending packages: http://pastebin.com/n3XshiUB
[16:52] <houn> cfhowlett: Ah, I see.  old-releases.ubuntu was the part i was missing.  Thank you!
[16:52] <TJ-> rubic: The boot-loader then can use the active flag to find the partition containing the operating system, but that is a legacy from MS-DOS days
[16:52] <maddawg2> cfhowlett it's not audacity that's just their forums
[16:52] <cfhowlett> houn happy2help
[16:52] <maddawg2> this is the LAME MP3 encoder
[16:52] <raub> Joseph___: check connection and then use --fix-missing
[16:52] <maddawg2> you dont need a GUI for an encoder.. it's being used as part of a website for transcoding audio
[16:52] <BenMcLean> So, no response?
[16:53] <cfhowlett> maddawg2 got it.
[16:53] <Joseph___> can we use any other mirror pls ?
[16:53] <cfhowlett> !mirror | Joseph___
[16:54] <raub> Joseph___: I don't see why not
[16:54] <rubic> TJ-: Ahhh, no luck though it was already set.
[16:54] <Joseph___> any other location of ubuntu repo list
[16:54] <Joseph___> instated of default
[16:54] <Joseph___> this is fine from 12.04
[16:54] <TJ-> rubic: Set it on the primary partition #1 we created instead
[16:55] <Joseph___> this issues something from  14.04
[16:55] <BenMcLean> is there a better channel to take this question to?
[16:55] <cfhowlett> Joseph___ read the wiki ubottu sent you - full instructions included
[16:55] <friendlyfascism> Joseph___, Since this is a server and you are having problems try #ubuntu-server
[16:55] <rubic> ok
[16:55] <chantelle_> How do I remount the / as rw?
[16:55] <OerHeks> Joseph___, just go into softwarecenter > edit > sources and choose mirror
[16:55] <cfhowlett> !persistence | BenMcLean
[16:55] <TJ-> rubic: This process helps us understand how that BIOS is (mis) behaving.
[16:55] <maddawg2> if i want to find out if there is a newer version of a package available how would i go about that
[16:56] <raub> BenMcLean: I know nothing about what you are asking. If someone here knew it, they would have replied. Also remember nobody will drop what they are doing to help you
[16:56] <raub> (12:54:23) raub: Joseph___: I don't see why not
[16:56] <maddawg2> i want to find out if there is a newer version to php5-ffmpeg
[16:56] <TJ-> maddawg2: "apt-cache policy <package>"
[16:56] <raub> Joseph___: that machine is 14.04
[16:56] <rubic> TJ-: set it on both or only /dev/sda1?
[16:56] <BenMcLean> ah, didn't know i had to add an additional launch option when i boot. will get on that right away. :)
[16:57] <BenMcLean> thanks a bunch cfhowlett
[16:57] <TJ-> rubic: only on sda1... my bet is BIOS never reads into the extended partition so never saw that flag
[16:57] <rubic> ok sure, can you tell me what I needed to do with smartmon because Ill have to reinstall it if I reboot
[16:57] <sandman13> is there a way to install Cinnamon in Ubuntu?
[16:57] <cfhowlett> !info cinnamon
[16:57] <maddawg2> TJ-, i'm a bit confused by the output...
[16:57] <maddawg2> !pastebin
[16:58] <friendlyfascism> sandman13, There is a ppa, ppa's are not supported here.
[16:58] <fhf> ppa's are created by people reffer to ppa owner for help
[16:59] <Joseph___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7804366/
[17:00] <apeoid> sandman13, also, I always forget myself to search because your exact question would probably yield a good set of hits on google
[17:00] <maddawg2> TJ-,  can you look at this:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7804367/
[17:00] <rubic> ehh looks like that could take a while I'll just reboot
[17:01] <maddawg2> i know i dont have it isntalled yet
[17:01] <sandman13> I have tried but says no PPA exists
[17:01] <rubic> YOU DIDD IT
[17:01] <TJ-> rubic: OK :)
[17:01] <maddawg2> but i wanted to see if there's a newer version before i go and install it
[17:01] <rubic> <333333333333333333333333333
[17:01] <rubic> wow
[17:01] <rubic> thank you so much
[17:01] <TJ-> rubic: You're now almost a bona-fida MBR hacker :)
[17:02] <rubic> yup, I just need to delegate the dirty work to my minions, hehe
[17:02] <TJ-> maddawg2: correct: that package isn't installed as yet, but the candidate is 0.6.0-2ubuntu2 from the precise/universe amd64 archive
[17:02] <TJ-> rubic :D
[17:02] <tl_of_us> hi, every so often my screns flicker. bu they dont do it with windows, so i think it's an os ubuntu deal. any help?
[17:03] <TJ-> rubic: At least I'll be able to take a short cut, the next time someone comes in with "Operation system not found" :)
[17:03] <maddawg2> TJ- but that doesnt tell me if there's something newer than that though
[17:03] <fhf> tl_of_us Do you have additional drivers installed? What is your graphic card?
[17:03] <maddawg2> unless i misunderstand
[17:03] <apeoid> sandman13,  http://linuxg.net/cinnamon-2-2-has-been-released-how-to-install-cinnamon-2-2-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr/
[17:04] <rubic> :P
[17:04] <TJ-> rubic: So, in summary, because Linux was in an extended partition table, and you extended that down to replace all existing *primary* tables, we had to 1) create a 'fake' primary partition in slack space and 2) set its active bootable flag. Can't set that flag on an extended partition itself, and settting it on a logical partition is no good because that is never read by BIOS
[17:04] <sandman13> btw what is the difference between installing Debian, Kubuntu and Ubuntu?
[17:05] <TJ-> maddawg2: That tells you the versions available for Precise. That's all that is in the archives.
[17:05] <fhf> sandman13 between all *buntus no difference. Debian is a bit different
[17:05] <TJ-> rubic: I have a saying... "most bugs come down to setting or resetting a single bit" - in this case that was 100% accurate
[17:05] <tl_of_us> ok fhf thanks. i'm not sure, is there a command i can run that will only show that information and not change anything?
[17:06] <fhf> tl_of_us What is your graphic card? and what Ubuntu version are you running?
[17:06] <sandman13> fhf: does that mean doing a minimal install of Ubuntu and adding KDE makes Ubuntu Kubuntu
[17:06] <cfhowlett> sandman13 for debian ask #debian.  kubuntu = ubuntu with KDE and a different set of default apps
[17:06] <TJ-> maddawg2: If you want a more recent package you'll have to install manually, and manage manually, and potentially take care of conflicts with system-managed packages
[17:07] <tl_of_us> 14.04 and i have an IntelÂŪ Ironlake Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
[17:07] <tl_of_us> thanks fhf
[17:07] <fhf> sandman13 exacly
[17:07] <tl_of_us> idk about the drivers
[17:07] <cfhowlett> sandman13 nope.  you'd have to install kubuntu-desktop for actual kubuntu
[17:07] <fhf> ^ he is right
[17:07] <tl_of_us> maybe i should unistall the nvidia think i have. there is supposed to be a second nvidia card in here, but never been able to find it
[17:07] <sandman13> cfhowlett: but that's too much extra stuff
[17:07] <tl_of_us> fhf, ^
[17:08] <cfhowlett> sandman13 asked and answered.  for lightest load possible, install lubuntu
[17:08] <philinux> TJ well done ;)
[17:08] <WXZ> so I want to delete /.ecryptfs, but will that screw everything up
[17:08] <fhf> tl_of_us mby when you go to Config -> Screens you have two screens even when you have one
[17:09] <cfhowlett> !encryption|WXZ it will.  see the wiki for encryption removal
[17:09] <WXZ> I don't want to stop encryption but just free up a lot of the space encryption is taking up, is that possible
[17:09] <awakecoding> what is an easy to detect if desktop composition is enabled from C code?
[17:09] <sandman13> cfhowlett: I want very basic of Kubuntu not all the stuffs. Stuffs that I don't use.
[17:09] <TJ-> WXZ: no, and it isn't taking up additional space
[17:09] <tl_of_us> i dont understand that one fhf - do you mean am i running 2 screens? yes i have 2, one 3d 24" and one main laptop
[17:10] <colin_> anyone here ?
[17:10] <tl_of_us> the 3d is disabled but on auto enable fhf
[17:10] <riply> hi colin_
[17:10] <cfhowlett> sandman13 mini iso + KDE.  not exactly kubuntu
[17:10] <WXZ> TJ-: my /.ecryptfs folder is 3.3 gigs
[17:10] <cfhowlett> colin_ ask your questions
[17:10] <tl_of_us> fhf, it says 'no additional drivers available, checking current drivers, brb
[17:10] <TJ-> WXZ: That's your home directory... if you want to reduce it, then remove some *unencrypted* data files from /home/
[17:11] <Nero> w
[17:11] <Nero> Thank you!
[17:11] <WXZ> TJ-: isn't my home directory /home not /.ecryptfs?
[17:11] <colin_> thanks.i have two screens.and the second one doesn't work.what can i do?
[17:11] <tl_of_us> fhf, i dont find any drivers in use for graphics
[17:12] <fhf> tl_of_us do you have Nvidia/ATI/Intel card in your laptop?
[17:12] <WXZ> I'm totally missing this, what's /.ecryptfs
[17:12] <WXZ> what's it for
[17:12] <tl_of_us> yes. fhf
[17:12] <TJ-> WXZ: what you see in your *unencrypted* /home/$USER/ is the *encrypted* files decrypted as and when you access them. They aren't using two blocks of space - in other words, Your home directory is using 3.3GB (encrypted or unencrypted)
[17:12] <kirkland> WXZ: if it's present, you have chosen to encrypt your home directory
[17:12] <tl_of_us> 14.04 and i have an IntelÂŪ Ironlake Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
[17:13] <tl_of_us> fhf, ^
[17:13] <kirkland> WXZ: assuming that's the case, .ecryptfs contains your encrypted data
[17:13] <kirkland> WXZ: in which case, if you care at all about your data, you best not delete .ecryptfs
[17:13] <colin_> ??
[17:13] <tl_of_us> fhf, i think the prob is in some leftovers of screensaver x
[17:13] <TJ-> WXZ: When you log-in, your password is used to unwrap the encryption key. Then, ecryptfs presents a 'view' of the unencrypted files to "/home/$USER/" as and when the system reads directories and files
[17:14] <dolmio> hello,
[17:14] <tl_of_us> or something like that, i forgot the name. but i put it in to get a cool screensaver and it well, it had problems, so i removed it best i could, but i think something went wrong because the process didnt quite go right, then i remeoved more and i think i got it all, but that was months ago, so i dont remember everything fhf
[17:14] <WXZ> TJ-: but unencrypting my stuff will free up 3.3 gigs of space?
[17:15] <TJ-> WXZ: The actual encrypted files are stored *outside* /home/$USER/  that symbolic-link /home/$USER/.ecryptfs points to where they are stored.
[17:15] <TJ-> WXZ: No, it won't
[17:15] <rubic> thanks to all who have helped me, goodnight/day to all.
[17:15] <fhf> tl_of_us that's bad. I haven't used screensaver x for ages so nothing more came to my mind./// 14.04 has the newest drivers for Intel graphics available
[17:15] <dolmio> i have a problem with GPA ... it wont start correct enless i use this command in terminal:   gpa --disable-x509 im wondering id there a way to fix this so i do not have to enter gpa --disable-x509 everytime i want to start the program?
[17:15] <TJ-> rubic: goodnight :)
[17:15] <coderman1> warning: not a linux expert, is there an ftp service i can install or does one come with ubuntu, that would allow me to create ftp users and lock them in their home directory?
[17:15] <kirkland> WXZ: you only ACTUALLY have 1 copy of your data on the system -- the encrypted stuff;  you unencrypted data doesn't actually exist on disk;  it's virtual in memory, decrypted in real time each time you read/write it
[17:16] <tl_of_us> thanks fhf any way to check them that isnt in the 'software updater' ?
[17:16] <dolmio> my proble can be found here http://superuser.com/questions/635831/general-assuan-error-in-gpa-under-linux
[17:16] <colin_> my problem maybe caused by graphic driver(gtx750ti). i try to search it and i found i have to install it.however after pressing ctrl alt f2. i got a black screen.there was no command line. i can not close x server for install the driver
[17:16] <maddawg2> does anyone know how i can install Ogg in ubuntu 12.04 server
[17:16] <WXZ> kirkland: TJ-: well right now I'm running Disk Usage Analyzer, and it's telling me that it's taking up 7.3 gigs divided 50/50 into /home and /.ecryptfs
[17:17] <TJ-> WXZ: Yes, because /home/$USER/ is *virtual* space caused by reading the encrypted files
[17:17] <cfhowlett> maddawg2 .ogg is a codec not a program - should be supported by default
[17:17] <colin_> my english is not good and im new at ubuntu.i hope someone can help me..
[17:17] <kirkland> WXZ: yeah, that's a bug in that tool -- it's fucking wrong
[17:17] <maddawg2> cfhowlett not in the server OS
[17:17] <TJ-> !language Timothy :)
[17:17] <maddawg2> in ubuntu desktop it is included
[17:18] <tl_of_us> fhf,  i also have nvidia xserver settings installed for some reason.
[17:18] <maddawg2> i think the package name might actually be libogg
[17:18] <colin_> anyone saw my question?
[17:18] <fhf> tl_of_us remove it if you have intel graphics. also for Intel you can use: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/intel-linux-driver-installer-1-0-4 but 14.04 has already the newest
[17:19] <WXZ> so where are my extra 3.15 gigs?
[17:19] <reisio> WXZ: in a binary to decimal conversion, I'm guessing
[17:19] <fhf> colin_ you don't have to close Xorg to install Nvidia drivers
[17:19] <reisio> or vice versa :)
[17:20] <reisio> fhf: although the upstream nvidia installer does ask you to, IIRC
[17:20] <tl_of_us> thanks fhf i just dont see those drivers in software ad updates, it isnt showing, the driver im currently using. i will remove the nvidia, you have anything that will remove the rest of screensaverx? or check for leftovers? fhf
[17:20] <WXZ> nvm, I found them
[17:20] <fhf> coderman1 you can use GADMIN-PROFTPD available form Software Center
[17:21] <colin_> fhf: so what can i do ? i tried to install driver form ppa.after that my ubuntu system was encountered a problem.i reinstall the system..i think i need to find another way to install the driver.
[17:21] <tl_of_us> fhf, just uninsatlled the nvidia server went well
[17:22] <tl_of_us> what is the terminal command to show the graphics drivers i am using currently?
[17:24] <fhf> tl_of_us sudo dpkg -l | grep intel
[17:24] <fhf> and xserver-xorg-video-intel package
[17:24] <reisio> tl_of_us: lspci -k | grep -i 'in use' -B 2
[17:25] <fhf> colin_ do you have driver available in "additional drivers"
[17:25] <colin_> fhf:no.
[17:26] <Joseph___> Hi
[17:27] <fhf> Hi
[17:27] <reisio> hi Jo
[17:27] <Joseph___> can you help some one pls
[17:27] <brontosaurusrex> !ask
[17:27] <tl_of_us> fhf, where to paste?
[17:27] <friendlyfascism> Joseph___, Is this still the repo problem?
[17:28] <fhf> paste.rapidrage.org
[17:28] <Joseph___> yes sir :)
[17:29] <riply> hey guys, is there anyone here who could give me some guidance on using PAM to restrict POP access? I am having a look at this wiki: http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Authentication/RestrictAccess but never done this before, so I'd appreciate bouncing it off of someone?
[17:29] <friendlyfascism> Joseph___, Are you sure that having a server at this time is the best move? changing the repos is some basic stuff and the least of what can happen if you are on the web with it?
[17:29] <tl_of_us> oh wait, i rmeeber, pastebin
[17:29] <colin_> fhfïži installed nvidia cruuent driver form a ppa. when i restarted,i got a error.so I reinstalled ubuntu.
[17:30] <Joseph___> yes
[17:30] <fhf> colin_ ppas are messy often (as stable as maintainer of PPA can make them) Install driver from http://www.geforce.com/drivers
[17:30] <colin_> i think my main problem is i can not type commands at commend screen.
[17:31] <tl_of_us> here you go fhf and reisio   thank you  http://pastebin.com/KX8XP1EQ
[17:31] <tl_of_us> brb
[17:31] <colin_> fhf.i already downloaded.
[17:31] <AnonLucifer> yo!
[17:31] <friendlyfascism> Joseph___, But you are asking for hand holding help, you have given more than you need to cover this issue. Yes for you however you are only addressing what you want not what you can do.
[17:31] <AnonLucifer> i have ubuntu 12.04 lts
[17:31] <AnonLucifer> and a bit of a problem
[17:31] <TJ-> colin_: sometimes, with proprietary drivers, some systems are unable to display the virtual consoles. That sounds like your current issue.
[17:31] <AnonLucifer> i have new hardware support, but i can't install it
[17:32] <colin_> TJ-: so i need to install the driver,right?
[17:33] <Joseph___> this issues was happen only installation of nova
[17:33] <Joseph___> i try to install other package
[17:33] <friendlyfascism> Joseph___, My point is you have to be self sufficient and learn how to do this without the crutch of the channel for basic stuff spread out over at the least 12 hrs.
[17:33] <Joseph___> seems no issues
[17:34] <fhf> tl_of_us so it seems you already have the newest drivers... So you have same problems when you have only one screen connected?
[17:34] <fhf> have you*
[17:34] <tl_of_us> ok fhf i will try that out
[17:34] <tl_of_us> but ithink yes fhf
[17:34] <Joseph___> this is what extract reason reason , do you have any thought on this pls
[17:35] <colin_> i find a article says that i have to close x server and run nvidia.run file at command screen. now .i can not get to command screen.
[17:36] <friendlyfascism> Joseph___, I have said what is needed you are not even close to understanding, the more time you spend here not being able to actually describe the issue in exact detail the less likely you are going to get any help.
[17:37] <Joseph___> i think you are missed it to check
[17:37] <Joseph___> let me tell you
[17:37] <Joseph___> i am having ubuntu 14.04 server
[17:37] <Joseph___> i am try to install nova-compute
[17:37] <friendlyfascism> Joseph___, You have had some of the best on the channel, not including me and were not able to resolve this.
[17:37] <Joseph___> i am facing the below issues
[17:38] <Joseph___> Man
[17:38] <Joseph___> dont talk too much here
[17:38] <Joseph___> if you not able to tell
[17:38] <Joseph___> other will help
[17:38] <Joseph___> why you are act as too smart here ?
[17:39] <reisio> colin_: that's the nvidia way to do it
[17:39] <reisio> colin_: which is usually considered the inferior way :)
[17:39] <reisio> not that it doesn't work, IME
[17:39] <simcity2000> hey everyone, I'm using Mint 15 (not ubuntu, I know) and trying to install a package from the raring repository. The only problem is it's not showing up in archive.ubuntu.com...
[17:39] <reisio> colin_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[17:39] <simcity2000> did somebody play a prank and delete raring?
[17:39] <Nero> no
[17:40] <friendlyfascism> simcity2000, it is eol
[17:40] <mbeierl> !raring
[17:40] <Pici> simcity2000: raring is no longer supported.
[17:40] <fhf> simcity2000 raring is no longer supported
[17:40] <DJones> simcity2000: Nope, it was dropped from support in January
[17:40] <DJones> simcity2000: You should have updated to a later release by now
[17:40] <Nero> raring is no longer supported,  kiddo!
[17:40] <TJ-> simcity2000: EOL release archives move to http://old-releases.ubuntu.com
[17:40] <reisio> you should update to later releases when they become available
[17:40] <Nero> how is the latest ubuntu version?
[17:40] <simcity2000> noted, all
[17:40] <reisio> Nero: compared to 13?
[17:41] <reisio> Nero: quite similar
[17:41] <Nero> Can anyone shed a light?
[17:41] <friendlyfascism> simcity2000, Mint is not supported here either.
[17:41] <reisio> friendlyfascism: ah but you already supported him! :p
[17:41] <Nero> Better support to cloud and server in the v14?
[17:41] <fhf> ^ :V
[17:41] <simcity2000> friendlyfascism: I know, but I figured I'd come here to figure out why the ubuntu packages were missing. got the answer I was looking for!
[17:41] <friendlyfascism> reisio, burned by the neck bolts. ;)
[17:42] <Nero> Can anyone help e out?
[17:42] <friendlyfascism> simcity2000, basic stuff info all over the web.
[17:42] <reisio> Nero: with?
[17:42] <Nero> The latest version of 14.
[17:42] <reisio> Nero: ...what about it?
[17:42] <Nero> Do I retain the v13 or update to v14?
[17:42] <simcity2000> friendlyfascism: yep, but I was already poking around in IRC and got the info here faster than I did googling around.
[17:43] <Nero> reisio
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> Nero  start from the beginning, what are you doing and what goes wrong... in one line
[17:43] <friendlyfascism> simcity2000, Oh we love people who can't do basic research. ;)
[17:43] <fhf> Nero the latest is 14.04 and its LTS it will be supported till 2019
[17:43] <tl_of_us> oh fhf and reisio thank you. i am currently runnign ony my laprtop 15.6" main screen and it seems to be working well, no flash ocurence yet for abotu 20 secs. the flash goes on randomly it seems , but mostly only every few minutes or so it goes on once, not amulti flash or anyhting. just one 'pap' no audio result either, the audio stays well.
[17:43] <Nero> right. I'm on lenovo G580 now.
[17:44] <Nero> and the brightness issue isnt solved yet.
[17:44] <simcity2000> friendlyfascism: haha, trust me, I know. I was just a bit surprised because the packages were working and then they weren't. The Mint folks apparently didn't mention the bit about 13.04 not being LTS...
[17:44] <Nero> Yhe function keys do not help me adjust the brightness at all.
[17:44] <simcity2000> friendlyfascism: thanks for the quick answer, though. I'll figure the rest out myself.
[17:45] <reisio> Nero: what brightness issue?
[17:45] <Nero> I have been looking answers for over three months. The forums didn't help.
[17:45] <friendlyfascism> Nero, Try installing xbacklight and run like xbacklight -set 75%  to see if this works.
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> !details | Nero
[17:46] <JCM83> Speech-dispatcher is talking and I don't want it to be. The /etc/default/speech-dispatcher is set to run=no. When I close the process it restarts. The service, when access, claims to be disabled.
[17:47] <TJ-> Nero: Have you tried setting the kernel's "acpi_osi" ?
[17:47] <Nero> reisio Yes. I tried doing that.
[17:47] <tl_of_us> fhf, any ideas? no flicker yet. so prety sure its in the second screen?    reisio ?n?
[17:48] <wormeyman>    /ignore #ubuntu MODES JOINS PARTS QUITS
[17:48] <Nero> And another issue too! The battery charge cannot be monitored. I cannot limit the charge cycle to 60% like how it is possible on Microsoft Windows.
[17:49] <Technodrome> i have a serveralias which is not catching in apache2 but is there?
[17:49] <Technodrome> i hate this
[17:49] <fhf> tl_of_us try to adjust refresh time etc on second screen. and nothing more come to my head.
[17:49] <tl_of_us> anyone remember the key shortcut to entering all desktop display?
[17:49] <tl_of_us> thanks fhf that might do
[17:49] <reisio> tl_of_us: fling mouse to top left?
[17:50] <OerHeks> Nero, " Do I retain the v13 or update to v14?" just upgrade to 14.04 then
[17:50] <fhf> tl_of_us display settings are in ubuntu settings center. /// physically broken touchpad :v
[17:51] <nsxt> hi... i'm running 12.04, just installed mysql-server, but the upstart command (`sudo service mysql start`) doesn't do anything... nothing in the upstart logs, nothing in the mysql logs... running `sudo mysqld` works just fine, but that's not ideal. an strace on the `service` command reveals nothing helpful
[17:51] <Nero> OerHeks all right.
[17:51] <Nero> But my brightness issue and battery gauge setting is still unsolved.
[17:51] <gas-sho> how best ought one explore 14.04 towards gettin' a wired optical mouse to work?
[17:52] <reisio> gas-sho: it doesn't work?
[17:52] <laspahr> can I get some help with a boot problem? :(
[17:52] <gas-sho> the light comes on
[17:52] <Nero> laspahr
[17:52] <Nero> shoot
[17:53] <laspahr> I ran 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-touch' thinking it was a version of Ubuntu optimized for a touchscreen laptop
[17:53] <laspahr> I was wrong
[17:53] <softballs> TJ-:  hey mate (talked to you yesterday about openvpn installation) you there?
[17:53] <TJ-> softballs: I am, but about to head off for dinner
[17:53] <reisio> laspahr: :)
[17:53] <tl_of_us> thanks fhf but nothing about hertz in my display settings
[17:53] <reisio> TJ-: what's for dinner?
[17:53] <Nero> laspahr What is the issue?
[17:53] <Nero> reisio we still need to talk.
[17:54] <laspahr> Nero it won't boot
[17:54] <fhf> tl_of_us and in displays build in settings?
[17:54] <laspahr> just stuck on the boot animation
[17:54] <softballs> TJ-: oh ok, i won't disturb you then, have a nice dinner!
[17:54] <TJ-> reisio: I was gonna make Lasagna... but that's decayed into pie'n'chips :)
[17:54] <TJ-> softballs: fire away... if it is quick I can answer :)
[17:54] <tl_of_us> nah nothing fhf
[17:54] <fhf> tl_os_us so I can't help more, sorry
[17:54] <tl_of_us> seems to be doing well though, no flicker for awhile now and both screens on
[17:55] <tl_of_us> fhf, ^
[17:55] <softballs> TJ-: hehe ok, well i have the server running the openvpn just fine now but my question is this: I have a service running on it that i can access remotely with the openvpn ip (10.8.0.1) but i can't access it using the servers public ip
[17:55] <fhf> kek tl_of_us, good.
[17:55] <laspahr> any tips on how to fix? /: I'm on an ubuntu 14.04 live usb right now
[17:55] <Nero> lasphar try using Ctrl+Alt+F2
[17:55] <Nero> during the booting..
[17:56] <TJ-> softballs: Two considerations: 1) is the service listening on the public IP address at all (possibly it listens on all IPs with 0.0.0.0), and 2) is there a netfilter firewall rule blocking public connections (iptables) ?
[17:56] <tl_of_us> yeah looking good here now, thanks fhf and reisio those graphics commands must have refreshed someting in the os.
[17:56] <Nero> lasphar at this point you will be asked to enter your credentials.
[17:57] <TJ-> softballs: "sudo netstat -nltp" will list all listening TCP services. "sudo iptables -nvL" will list the 'filters' tables
[17:57] <tesh> ØŠØ­Ø°ŲØą
[17:57] <tesh> warning
[17:57] <tesh>  you may be  watched
[17:57] <tesh> do usa&israel use the internet(facebook,youtube,twitter, chat rooms ..ect)to spy??
[17:57] <tesh> do usa&israel use the internet 2 collect informations,,can we call that spying??
[17:57] <tesh> do they record&analyse everything we do on the internet,,can they harm you using these informations??
[17:57] <tesh> warning
[17:57] <unopaste> tesh you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[17:57] <unopaste> tesh you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[17:57] <softballs> TJ-: the first command shows its listening on 0.0.0.0:port so i guess that's all IPs?
[17:57] <TJ-> Nero: You never replied to my question: "Have you tried setting the kernel's "acpi_osi" ?"
[17:58] <TJ-> softballs: correct
[17:58] <Nero> lasphar after entering the credentials, type in the following commands to reinstall the unity desktop.
[17:58] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | tesh
[17:58] <softballs> TJ-: no iptables set
[17:58] <TJ-> softballs: Are the default table policies "ACCEPT" or "DROP" ?
[17:58] <riply> anyone here have experiance with dovecot?
[17:58] <Nero> TJ- I did. It didnt work.
[17:59] <riply> I am trying to block a user from using IMAP service
[17:59] <riply> or POP
[17:59] <TJ-> Nero: shame... that's the usual solution in these cases, to ensure the ACPI interpreter uses the correct methods
[17:59] <scarmichael> I get an error when doing apt-get update: "Err http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/main amd64 Packages 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.201 80]", any ideas?
[17:59] <softballs> TJ-: accept
[18:00] <Nero> TJ- what? I'm telling you it didn't yield a solution!
[18:00] <ObrienDave> scarmichael, quantal is EOL, iirc
[18:00] <TJ-> Nero: Best to complain to Lenovo, Linux can't support proprietary extensions if the manufacturer doesn't publish the technical information
[18:00] <scarmichael> ahh
[18:00] <scarmichael> thanks, i was afraid of that
[18:00] <TJ-> softballs: What service is it?
[18:00] <Nero> TJ- is there by any means I can bind these settings to the keys?
[18:00] <softballs> TJ-: it's a mud :)
[18:01] <otis> ÐŅŅŅ ŅŅŅŅÐšÐļÐĩ?
[18:01] <TJ-> Nero: If the ACPI isn't firing events then no key events will come in
[18:01] <ObrienDave> scarmichael, i ran into that same issue yesterday LOL
[18:01] <TJ-> softballs: if you want, private message me the server ip and port I'll test it.
[18:01] <Nero> TJ- hold onto it!. I will install v14 and see if it will work.
[18:01] <softballs> TJ-: and i can see in its log files it choose to run on the openvpn ip, guess i should serarch for where it gets the ip to use
[18:01] <Nero> TJ- give me half an hour!
[18:02] <TJ-> softballs: Really? netstat says it is listening on 0.0.0.0 but the process itself reports only listening on the private VPN address? That could simply be a misconfiguration of the mud, or bad programming :)
[18:03] <TJ-> softballs: some processes will 'grab' all interfaces to listen on, but only listen on one IP... you could have one of those
[18:03] <softballs> TJ-: haha how do i do that using the freenode webchat? (god its been so long since i did any irc)
[18:03] <softballs> TJ-: yeah that could be it
[18:03] <laspahr> Nero i guess i didn't know what to do after that heh..
[18:03] <Gonzo_> Hi, can someone help me with an SSH problem?
[18:03] <TJ-> softballs: not sure... on IRC private message is called a Query... maybe you can select my nickname and get a right-click menu ?
[18:03] <ObrienDave> !ask | Gonzo_
[18:03] <Nero> laspahr have you come across the command line interface?
[18:04] <laspahr> Yes i did.. But didnt know what to do afterwards.
[18:04] <Nero> laspahr after hitting the three keys?
[18:04] <laspahr> Yes
[18:04] <Gonzo_> I've never had problems using shsh to access my Ubuntu 12.04 seerver before, but now I get connection refused on port 22 - whether I try it from aonther compputer on the LAN, or directly from the server itself.  I've already tried uninstalling and re-installing openssh-server
[18:05] <Nero> laspahr http://pastebin.com/4HxrDkWc
[18:05] <laspahr> I'm thinking now, on my phone for the irc, so i can still know what to do heh..
[18:05] <Nero> laspahr enter those commands. One by one to reinstall unity.
[18:05] <laspahr> So unity got deleted?
[18:06] <Nero> laspahr can't say.
[18:06] <ryan_46>  /ignore #ubuntu MODES JOINS PARTS QUITS
[18:06] <Nero> laspahr its priority is altered. this resets in your case.
[18:07] <laspahr> But everything will still be there that i already have installed?
[18:08] <Nero> laspahr
[18:08] <Nero> laspahr you will have to reinstall your graphic drivers.
[18:08] <Nero> after this.
[18:09] <laspahr> Ok, thank you Nero
[18:09] <Nero> laspahr you did back up your data, haven't you?
[18:10] <laspahr> No...?
[18:10] <dlam> mmm after a `sudo do-release-upgrade`  and it says "To finish the upgrade, a restart is required." ...do I really have to do it?  i'm asking cuz i dont wanna restart a live production database server :D
[18:10] <laspahr> It's still on computer
[18:10] <Raffae|e> #PianetamIRC si ÃĻ trasferito su irc.bluechat.it - pianetamirc.altervista.org - forum.bluechat.it
[18:10] <Nero> Laspahr nevermind! let me know the output. It shouldn't be a problem!
[18:11] <OerHeks> dlam, ofcourse not, but your data will not be save. it is up to you
[18:11] <OnkelTem> Hi
[18:11] <laspahr> Okay, I'll let you know later, i gtg run some errands
[18:11] <Nero> laspahr deal!
[18:11] <OnkelTem> Any ideas why package from PPA could not be installed - its just missed? https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/ubuntu/stable - this ppa
[18:11] <laspahr> Thx for your help
[18:12] <dlam> your data will not save?  whatcha mean? what data
[18:12] <Nero> dlam how important is the upgrade?
[18:12] <OnkelTem> I added it, apt-get updated, but no new version of nginx is avaiable
[18:12] <Nero> laspahr I suggest you do it now.
[18:12] <OerHeks> OnkelTem, on what ubuntu version ? does it list there?
[18:12] <dlam> my boss wants me to upgrade it to 14.04 since its a LTS  version
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> !info nginx | OnkelTem
[18:12] <reisio> dlam: that's a silly reason
[18:12] <laspahr> Nero, i would but cant /:
[18:12] <Nero> dlam, well restart it when you have to!
[18:13] <OnkelTem> OerHeks: or course, 12.04
[18:13] <reisio> dlam: you should want to upgrade so you aren't left behind
[18:13] <Nero> reisio plus one !
[18:13] <OnkelTem> lotuspsychje: ?
[18:13] <casa> Boa tarde
[18:13] <laspahr> Shouldn't be too long tho. A few hours tops
[18:13] <dlam> i guess another reason is rackspace says "we wont support 13.10"
[18:13] <casa> alguÃĐm  fala portuguÃŠs aqui???
[18:13] <Nero> laspahr allright ! over!
[18:13] <OnkelTem> Can anybody check what's wrong with that repository?
[18:13] <reisio> dlam: do you need their support?
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> !pt | casa
[18:14] <Nero> dlam give it a restart then!
[18:14] <OnkelTem> https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[18:14] <dlam> lmaoo
[18:14] <OerHeks> OnkelTem, what is your current nginx ? that ppa shows 1.6.0-1+precise0
[18:14] <dlam> website will go down all bad
[18:14] <Nero> dlam how vital are the upgrades for your production server in progress?
[18:14] <dlam> haha ok semi-trolling here
[18:14] <Gonzo_> !patience
[18:14] <dlam> Nero: in my opinion not very vital
[18:15] <OnkelTem> OerHeks: 1.1.19-1ubuntu0.6 0
[18:15] <Gonzo_> I've never had problems using shsh to access my Ubuntu 12.04 seerver before, but now I get connection refused on port 22 - whether I try it from aonther compputer on the LAN, or directly from the server itself.  I've already tried uninstalling and re-installing openssh-server
[18:15] <OerHeks> OnkelTem, so you have the latest ?
[18:15] <Nero> dlam then take a nap and restart it later!
[18:16] <OnkelTem> OerHeks: how comes that 1.1.* is greater then 1.6.*?
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> !info nginx precise | OnkelTem
[18:17] <Nero> Gonzo
[18:17] <OerHeks> OnkelTem, my bad, i was looking at the end of that version number
[18:17] <OnkelTem> lotuspsychje: what do you want to tell?
[18:17] <Gonzo_> yes - here
[18:17] <OnkelTem> lotuspsychje: I don't want outdated crap 1.1.19
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> !language | OnkelTem
[18:17] <Nero> Gonzo you might get your answers at the ubuntuforums.org
[18:17] <Gonzo_> I've tried the few suggestions I see there already
[18:18] <Nero> Gonzo there are questions pertaining to the same issue you've asked for here. Did they help?
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> OnkelTem: if you want newer version, install ubuntu 14.04
[18:18] <OnkelTem> lotuspsychje: then stop teasing the bot please
[18:18] <OnkelTem> lotuspsychje: I want just nginx
[18:18] <OnkelTem> newer
[18:18] <xk05> hello, im having several display and window manager issues
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> OnkelTem: you have the most up to date niginx for precise
[18:19] <xk05> i have gdm, kdm, and lightdm installed
[18:19] <Gonzo_> they did not help.  The last thing I tried was to uninstall and reinstall openssh-server.  I still get connection refused
[18:19] <OnkelTem> lotuspsychje: 1.1.19 is old, it's not up-to-date at all
[18:19] <xk05> gdm will only offer the gnome-shell, which starts
[18:19] <OnkelTem> lotuspsychje: just like ffmpeg and tons of other software
[18:19] <OnkelTem> OerHeks: I see. Well, any ideas?
[18:19] <Nero> Gonzo http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/ssh-connection-refused-339510/
[18:20] <xk05> kdm and lightdm offer all the installed window managers but some will not start
[18:20] <brontosaurusrex> OnkelTem, debian stable backports have 1.6.x something
[18:20] <dlam> oh ok so i guess restarting after a 'do-release-upgrade'  not *that* vital   ...maybe there's a way to find out why ubuntu needs to anyways :D
[18:20] <Nero> Gonzo Explaining would be quite long. try this one too..http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1914246
[18:20] <brontosaurusrex> OnkelTem, what buntu are you running?
[18:20] <xk05> ubuntu (unity) starts but only partially, i only get the nautilus desktop functions, no panels
[18:20] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: default. 12.04
[18:21] <xk05> i am running 14.04
[18:21] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: I wonder why after adding that PPA no new versions are found
[18:21] <OnkelTem> https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/ubuntu/stable - this
[18:21] <Nero> dlam restart it once and for all. You have to someday !
[18:21] <brontosaurusrex> OnkelTem, well check what 14.04 is having
[18:22] <brontosaurusrex> OnkelTem, what version do you want?
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> brontosaurusrex: i already pasted him nginx for 14.04
[18:22] <brontosaurusrex> lotuspsychje, ok, sorry
[18:22] <_1_jbv23> Does anyone know how to connect with EAP-SIM authentication using a huawei modem as a sim reader to a wifi network?
[18:22] <Gonzo_> looking over suggestions...
[18:22] <wheatthin> hmm fixed my drivers issue.. it said they were in use.. but it was showing artifacts in lots of my apps..
[18:22] <OnkelTem> lotuspsychje: you what? You told me to upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04, didn't you?
[18:22] <Nero> Gonzo didn't help?
[18:23] <dlam> Nero:  i cant restart it!  production web site!  maybe im a noob though for feeling that
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> OnkelTem: i triggered nginx version of 14.04
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> !info nginx
[18:23] <OnkelTem> lotuspsychje: it's just a text message, how it is supposed I can use it?
[18:23] <Nero> dlam what chance else have you got?
[18:24] <dlam> Nero: ohh ok, so i think you mean you *have* to restart to complete an upgrade
[18:24] <dlam> kk
[18:24] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: I want the version listed on this https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/ubuntu/stable page - 1.6.0-1+precise0
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> dlam  if it's a kernel upgrade
[18:24] <brontosaurusrex> lotuspsychje, OnkelTem yeah, it should be 1.6
[18:24] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: as I already said, I added this repository, updated, but can't get it
[18:25] <Nero> dlam. yes.
[18:25] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: i.e. - apt-get update; apt-cache policy nginx --- prints only 1.1.19 version
[18:25] <brontosaurusrex> OnkelTem, you would have to ask the ppa mantainer, i would not install web server from random ppa btw.
[18:25] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: it doesn't look random
[18:26] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: see the URL for example...
[18:26] <Nero> dlam. You see its a software and the new upgrades work only from the reboot.
[18:26] <Nero> dlam <most>
[18:26] <dlam> kk guess maybe we'll have to schedule site downtime then
[18:26] <dlam> good to know
[18:27] <Nero> dlam. yes. The earlier you do that, the easier you get a hike from your boss :D
[18:28] <brontosaurusrex> OnkelTem, did the nginx team comfirmed that this is their ppa?
[18:29] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: sorry I don't know what is/who is nginx team
[18:29] <Gonzo_> not so far - I tried eleting the known_hosts file, but there may have been more than one.  looking for other copies
[18:29] <Kassadin> Hi! I was wondering about the minimum graphics card for light to moderate gaming for my lubuntu computer. I have a 2.8Ghz single core processor and 2 GB RAM. I want good performance without breaking the bank, but my issue is that the card must be PCI, not PCIe or AGP.
[18:29] <brontosaurusrex> OnkelTem, as in #nginx perhaps
[18:29] <brontosaurusrex> ask*
[18:30] <WXZ1> after an update I couldn't do enhanced zoom, compiz --replace makes enhanced zoom work but it breaks everything else
[18:30] <TJ-> Nero: did you try "acpi_backlight=vendor" *without* any "acpi_osi" ?
[18:30] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: ok, I'll try
[18:30] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: but anyway I don't get how all this related to my question, really
[18:30] <tonyt> Kassadin PCI vid cards that will play modern games are hard to come by
[18:31] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: like people don't want to help, instead they just spend my and thier time :-/ This is sad
[18:31] <tonyt> i doubt they even make them any more
[18:31] <Nero> TJ- I still haven't gotten through with the installation yet :D I will and then remember to ping you !
[18:32] <Kassadin> tonyt: I know that's why I came here :P Research didn't help too much with that. I don't need too much. I am looking more into games like League of Legends, not resource hogs like Crysis 3. I am willing to buy used if necessary.
[18:32] <brontosaurusrex> OnkelTem, no, you dont listen well.
[18:32] <TJ-> Nero: bookmark this, it's where I found the issue reported as solved: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2156948&page=2
[18:32] <Nero> TJ- thanks mate ! Bookmarked!
[18:38] <Gonzo_> Nero, I've tried both suggestions, still not working - still connection refused
[18:38] <Nero> Gonzo what issue was that?
[18:39] <Nero> oh! the ssh !
[18:39] <Gonzo_> yeah - I think I'll work on this a bit more on my own.  Thanks for all of the help
[18:39] <Gonzo_> leave
[18:39] <Gonzo_> exit
[18:41] <Kassadin> So does anyone know what I should do?
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> Kassadin  to achieve what?
[18:46] <Kassadin> MonkeyDust: I was looking for an inexpensive graphics card for light to moderate gaming (nothing too fancy). My computer only has PCI ports, no PCIe.
[18:49] <OerHeks> Kassadin, pci cards with reasonable performance are rare.
[18:49] <Kassadin> OerHeks: I know. Is there a minimum I should look for? Like 256 MB? 512?
[18:51] <e^0> is anyone having the official ubuntu server book 3rd edition ?
[18:52] <selig5> Kassadin: I just googled and found the Radeon X1550 256 MB pci graphics card $100 on Amazon, less for used.
[18:52] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: listen useless advices? :)
[18:52] <Kassadin> selig5: Is 256 MB enough? I'm not sure what more would do for me
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> e^0  that's a yes/no question
[18:53] <selig5> Kassadin: Maybe for a light game?
[18:53] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: I found the reason btw. I was not really installing the package, I was trying to get source to build modified version of nginx. For this I used command: apt-get source nginx and
[18:53] <e^0> MonkeyDust: yeah luckily :D
[18:53] <OerHeks> Kassadin, 256 will be the minimum
[18:53] <e^0> if someone has it then it would be quite easy to learn ubuntu
[18:53] <Kassadin> selig5: Define light please. This doesn't need to be too powerful as it is a secondary computer.
[18:53] <brontosaurusrex> OnkelTem, cool.
[18:53] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: it did download OLD version, instead of new. Similary, apt-cache policy shows old version.
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> !manual | start here
[18:54] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: I don't understand why this happens... So both apt-get and apt-cache it's better to run under root. Yes, just this pretty stpid advice to myself :)
[18:54] <e^0> is their any ubuntu loco channel ?
[18:54] <e^0> MonkeyDust: i am familiar with the basic stuff want to learn about server thing
[18:54] <brontosaurusrex> OnkelTem, and you did the apt-get udpate before all that?
[18:55] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: of course, many times, under root
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> e^0  i'm sure a local store has books on ubuntu
[18:55] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: a moment, I'll show you something
[18:55] <brontosaurusrex> selig5, your probably better of finding some nvidia
[18:56] <e^0> MonkeyDust: yeah, but this book is given to every ubuntu loco team so any of you guys might be a member so that can be useuful, also on the site it's said to spread the book
[18:56] <e^0> so thought somebody would like to share it
[18:56] <Kassadin> OerHeks: So 256 min, but 512 is my best bet if I could find it?
[18:57] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: https://gist.github.com/OnkelTem/8cdda36c2fe90b2e7b16 - look :)
[18:57] <selig5> Kassadin: pci only is very limiting, you know...
[18:57] <Kassadin> selig5: I know. Dell didn't see that through all the way I suppose.
[18:58] <brontosaurusrex> OnkelTem, interesting, no idea why would that happen thought
[18:59] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: the same
[18:59] <guest73823> why metasploit can not work on my ubuntu will ?  .ruby.bin   gets %90 cpu
[18:59] <incognito> Did ubuntu release a new version of 12.04? e.i. 12.04.5 ? if so, where can I download the iso
[18:59] <syntroPi> anyone got vbox 4.3.14 running with a gnome-shell Xorg 15.1 guest accelerated? i always have SGI vendor and Xorg.0.log states vboxvideo wouldnt support the proper dri extension... Any ideas what went  wrong?
[19:00] <incognito> By reading the hwe support documents I got the impression that they released 12.04.5
[19:01] <rww> I believe we're on 12.04.4 right now.
[19:01] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: I should thank you. After your advice to talk to the team, I joint #nginx, and found there (surprise!) - MTecknology guy, who is the owner of that repo. And "the team" confirmed that it is official repo
[19:01] <OnkelTem> or rather - it is better then offical builds
[19:01]  * rww double-checks
[19:01] <kostkon> incognito, not yet https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[19:01] <rww> ah, there we go
[19:01] <brontosaurusrex> OnkelTem, thats why I'am cool, i can see the future.
[19:01] <JackR> hello I have a slight problem. Essentailly what I have is a ubuntu 13.04 raring. I noticed this is end of life
[19:01] <JackR> that is a real shame
[19:01] <OnkelTem> brontosaurusrex: you are! :)
[19:01] <rww> !eolupgrades
[19:02] <linuxthefish> test
[19:02] <brontosaurusrex>  NVIDIA G96 [GeForce 9400 GT] X.Org: 1.12.4 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1280x1024@75.0hz < selig5, this is what i have for years now, its got a gig of memory and its passively cooled, works well for an old game or two.
[19:03] <incognito> kostkon thanks
[19:04] <JackR> However, I need to find a repo that has those duplicated mirror
[19:04] <JackR> mirrors
[19:04] <JackR> im looking for this ntp package ntp-1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-2ubuntu1
[19:04] <JackR> and a bunch of other openstack packages for a compute node that will be running ubuntu 13.04 raring
[19:04] <JackR> there HAS to be a way to do this
[19:05] <Androo> incognito: 12.04.4 is current.  12.04.5 has a tracking page here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-12.04.5
[19:05] <JackR> I mean understand ubuntu 13.04 raring is end of life, but these packages for a compute node have to be somewhere
[19:05] <rww> JackR: why are you starting a compute node using a version of Ubuntu that doesn't get security or stability updates?
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> JackR  maybe there is wa way, but you won't find it here, as 13.04 is no longer supported
[19:05] <philinux> Jackr yep look up old releases
[19:06] <rww> JackR: anyways, the EOLUpgrades page ubottu linked has the information you're looking for. I'm not going into detail because using EOL releases is a bad idea
[19:06] <JackR> I guess my only defense is it's a compute node, running some old grizzly packages in a dev environment
[19:06] <incognito> Androo or kostkon do you know if 12.04.4 has the 2017 support eol date?
[19:06] <JackR> its just to add a couple extra compute nodes
[19:06] <JackR> and then im done with this version of ubuntu
[19:06] <slipperynick> Anyone would like to recommend a good webmail solution for a small(<10) users?
[19:07] <rww> incognito: 12.04 in general is supported until 2017. Point releases don't change that date.
[19:07] <rww> slipperynick: roundcube or squirrelmail, depending on how fancy you want it
[19:08] <slipperynick> thanks :)
[19:10] <braulio> Hello everyone, I'm using Lubuntu 14.04 and I have a netbook with 2GB of ram. You guys think worth using ZRAM with it?
[19:11] <Androo> slipperynick: I'm unsure of its stability as it's brand new, but this looked nice when I saw it:  http://rainloop.net/
[19:12] <JackR> ok how bout this
[19:12] <JackR> is there any site
[19:12] <JackR> where I can search for a specific package
[19:12] <t2mkn> can some one help for iball usb dongle, i have a 3G sim installed in it. using ubuntu 12.04 :( the dongle is not getting detected.
[19:12] <JackR> and it will tell me what repository has that package
[19:12] <Safa_[A_boy]> gnome-music don't display music in the right way. "No music found! Put some files into the folder <blabla>". The folder have already mp3 music
[19:12] <TJ-> JackR: See http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ntp/ntp_4.2.6.p5+dfsg-2ubuntu1.dsc and the associated binary packages in that same directory
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> Safa_[A_boy]  what music player?
[19:13] <Safa_[A_boy]> gnome-music
[19:13] <linuxthefish> good
[19:14] <JackR> TJ: That dev file, when it goes to resolve dependencies, and it looks in my sources list file, and those repos are done, how do I handle that
[19:14] <JackR> Im a look a repo that has all dependencies for that ntp package
[19:14] <ubuntuonmacmini> help me
[19:14] <JackR> that way I dont need to go down the rabbit hole of resolving dependencies for dependcies
[19:14] <incognito> rww yes, I should have mentioned that some versions such as 12.04.1   .2 and  .3 may not receive kernel updates, but I imagine that kernel updates will not be critical for security. Is that correct?
[19:15] <ubuntuonmacmini> i want to install ubuntu on mac mini
[19:15] <TJ-> JackR: I don't understand your question? If you have a system getting 404 errors because release is EOL, simply edit "/etc/apt/sources.list" and replace "http://archive.ubuntu.com" with "http://old-releases.ubuntu.com"
[19:15] <rww> incognito: regardless of what point release you use, you should install updates from the security repository. that would contain any kernel security updates
[19:15] <ubuntuonmacmini> i tried but i have a little delay before starting to boot ubuntu
[19:16] <JackR> TJ: I'll give that a shot
[19:17] <ubuntuonmacmini> i tried to install ubuntu on my mac mini but i have a little delay before starting to boot ubuntu
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> Safa_[A_boy]  same here, no music found in that player (didn't know the player until now)... you could report if a !bug
[19:19] <incognito> rww I'm getting ready to reinstall and after reading this article: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1204_HWE_EOL            It says that some minor versions of 12.0 will not be able to receive kernel updates. So my question is: will it provide better security if I use one of  the minor versions that are still eligible for kernel updates like   .4 and .5? Thanks
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> minus if
[19:19] <ubuntuonmacmini> i tried to install ubuntu on my mac mini but i have a little delay before starting to boot ubuntu
[19:20] <ziliu2020> I'm having some problem with juju authorized-keys add command... It keeps saying my public key is invalid and can't add... any reason?
[19:20] <ObrienDave> ubuntuonmacmini, define "little delay"
[19:21] <ziliu2020> I'm sure my key is ok because it has been used in other places with no problem,
[19:21] <rww> incognito: ah, fun, I didn't know about that page
[19:21]  * rww reads
[19:22] <Androo> incognito: point releases are generally done for purposes of supporting new hardware and allowing new installs to have less to upgrade.  They're like Microsoft service packs.  If you apply updates regularly, you should be on the latest point release.
[19:23] <rww> incognito: yes, if you're using a HWE stack you should stick to supported ones
[19:23] <coventry`> In Unity, pressing scroll-lock shuts down my computer.  Where can I turn this feature off?
[19:23] <incognito> Androo and rww, thanks... I think my question was kind of obvious (dumb question)...  but thanks for reinforcing my assumptions.
[19:24] <c0ffee> Hi. I'm having problems with remapping keyboard. Please check my question on askubuntu ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/496670/remap-keycodes-after-adding-bluetooth-keyboard
[19:25] <coventry`> Do other people have the same behavior?  (scroll-lock shuts down your computer, in Unity?)
[19:26] <Androo> incognito: "lsb_release -a" will show you what point release you're currently using.
[19:27] <ObrienDave> coventry`, scroll-lock does not shut my Xubuntu down
[19:28] <coventry`> ObrienDave: Thanks, what version are you runnig?
[19:28] <ObrienDave> 14.04
[19:29] <coventry`> Same as me.  Must be something I did.  Thanks.
[19:30] <ObrienDave> well, unity is different from XFCE, so, i really don't know
[19:31] <coventry`> Oh, yeah, if you're running xfce, that's completely different.
[19:32] <ubuntuonmacmini> i tried to install ubuntu on my mac mini but i have a little delay before starting to boot ubuntu
[19:33] <ObrienDave> ubuntuonmacmini, define "little delay"
[19:33] <JackR> TJ: what about the http://security.ubuntu.com raring-security
[19:33] <JackR> I know those are depreciated
[19:33] <JackR> an I know the ntp packages most likely won't be there anway
[19:33] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Last night i did the sudo apt-get update and now my google chrome won't open
[19:33] <JackR> but I figured I'd check
[19:33] <ubuntuonmacmini> it just delays
[19:34] <JackR> I guess my question is, is there anything I can do about the security.ubuntu.com repos
[19:34] <coventry`> GuyThatNeedsHelp: Try running "google-chrome" in a terminal, see what errors result.
[19:34] <c0ffee> ubuntumacmini, did you check dmesg?
[19:36] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> The error i got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7805160/
[19:36] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> coventry: ^
[19:36] <kendrick_> hey, How do I add the unstable debian repositories to my repositories?
[19:37] <Pici> kendrick_: that sounds like a terrible idea. Ubuntu is not debian and you cannot mix and match repositories.
[19:37] <kendrick_> Pici, oh, well how do I get extcalc installed? lol
[19:37] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> seems like it has something to do with my computer name, i changed it from that
[19:37] <kendrick_> I have the source code since I can't just apt-get...
[19:38] <systemic> hello
[19:38] <systemic> I have a noob question
[19:38] <ubuntuonmacmini> little delay some seconds
[19:38] <systemic> its about torrents...can anyone help?
[19:38] <ubuntuonmacmini> is there any way it could boot straight
[19:38] <Pici> kendrick_: It isn't in the Ubuntu repos.  So either you compile from source or see if someone has a built a PPA.
[19:39] <systemic> or do I there a better channel suited for torrent questions?
[19:39] <ubuntuonmacmini> mac osx is too heavy i have 4gb and i can't have even 7 tracks on logic
[19:39] <Pici> kendrick_: the source should come with a README or an INSTALL file containing instructions.
[19:39] <kendrick_> Pici, how do I compile from source?
[19:39] <kendrick_> Pici, i read those... not working
[19:39] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I can't unlock my account now
[19:39] <Androo> systemic: better to ask anyhow and not receive a response, then find a better place, than to ask if you can ask :)
[19:40] <Androo> but this is a ubuntu channel meant for ubuntu questions
[19:40] <systemic> ok...so even if I am on the tor network...can I be tracked while downloading torrents?
[19:40] <Androo> systemic: of course
[19:41] <systemic> how to stay anonymous?
[19:41] <Pici> kendrick_: Have you considered using another tool that actually has packages in our repositories and isn't 5 years old?
[19:42] <kendrick_> Pici, got any graphic calc alternatives?
[19:43] <systemic> Androo: is there a tool in ubuntu that will allow anonymous bittorrent downloads?
[19:43] <c0ffee> anyone good with remapping keys?
[19:44] <Androo> systemic: tor will hide your IP address, but if you're using private trackers they still might know who you are.
[19:44] <JackR> TJ: what about this - http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-security/multiverse/source/Sources can I use an old-releases link for that link?
[19:45] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Anyone know the command to unlock your profile? the GUI version isn't working for me
[19:45] <Ziber> So, I've got an interestingly tricky LVM problem. I have a 100GB device that I want to create a single LV from. When I try and pvcreate it, I get the following: "Device /dev/sdw not found (or ignored by filtering)." The device exists, and I have not changed any filtering rules in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf. I just need new eyes on the problem. Anyone willing to help out?
[19:45] <Androo> systemic: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea
[19:46] <systemic> Androo: I have been using Deluge from the ubuntu software center...you wouldn't happen to know a tool to get around private trackers do you?
[19:47] <guest73823> how can i Add metro Desktop to ubuntu 14.04  ?
[19:47] <guest73823> how can i Add metro Desktop to ubuntu 14.04  ?
[19:47] <guest73823> how can i Add metro Desktop to ubuntu 14.04  ?
[19:48] <ObrienDave> !patience | guest73823
[19:48] <Pici> kendrick_: kalgebra seems to have a bunch of similar features.... but it will likely pull in a bunch of KDE dependencies.
[19:48] <vicsar> .
[19:48] <vicsar> Ã§
[19:49] <Ziber> How would a disk partition that I create be immediately "in use by the system"?
[19:49] <kendrick_> Pici, nice i might try it out...
[19:49] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Anyone know the command to unlock your profile? the GUI version isn't working for me.
[19:50] <systemic> Androo: Thanks for the article!  That really helps.
[19:50] <ObrienDave> guest73823 you want to add a Windows DE to Ubuntu??? ROFL
[19:50] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Tried to find it on google and nothing related to what i'm asking showed up
[19:51] <guest73823> ObrienDave : yes
[19:53] <Androo> systemic: keeping anonymous is a hard problem.  If you're concerned about keeping anonymous, you're probably better off using a proxy on a service that would, say, ignore DMCA notices.
[19:53] <ObrienDave> guest73823 glwt
[19:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> Any newbies here want to learn some programming? I am bored :P
[19:54] <guest73823> ObrienDave : what is glwt?
[19:54] <ObrienDave> Good Luck With That
[19:56] <c0ffee> Aki-Thinkpad , sure
[19:56] <MightyMight1> Hi, I've been pulling my hair out and can't get a samba file sharing server on Ubuntu to work nicely with my other 20 work computers. The shared ubuntu folder is accessible through the lan (windows pc's) and is also a dropbox folder. However, if a file is created or modified OUTSIDE of the lan (i.e. a remote computer) and thus Dropbox syncs the file, the file becomes Read Only to the lan,.. Driving me insane. I'd like to have s
[19:56] <Aki-Thinkpad> c0ffee, cool
[19:56] <Aki-Thinkpad> come over to #vienna
[19:56] <MightyMight1> I'd reimburse $30 Paypal for the time to help me out
[19:57] <MightyMight1> Basically I want zero security and don't want Dropbox to take ownership of a file it downloads
[19:57] <Ziber> Apparently the disk I'm trying to make an LVM out of is already in use by the system. How can I figure out where a disk is in use?
[19:58] <systemic> Androo: Have you heard of peerblock?
[20:00] <ubuntuonmacmini> mac osx is too heavy i have 4gb and i can't have even 7 tracks on logic
[20:00] <ubuntu> Hey Tux
[20:00] <ubuntuonmacmini> also is there any way to run kontakt
[20:02] <awesomess3> So.............I tried 13.10 and 14.04, but cups is annoying. I think by default it should be removed. I tried upgrading some packages and I went `sudo stop cups` and it would stall, maybe because of my USB HDD. Cups is bad, no good, `sudo dpkg -r cups-daemon`
[20:02] <srirams6> Hey guys
[20:02] <srirams6> I have some issues with fonts
[20:02] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> sudo usermod --expiredate -1 dude (\n)  usermod: no changes
[20:03] <threeseas> seems hardware support upgrade for 12.04 (due support being dropped for the existing hardware support) trasjes out the xserver.
[20:03] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I can't unlock my account
[20:03] <Alma_de_poeta> hi
[20:03] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> No one knows how i can unlock my account?
[20:03] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> ....
[20:03] <Alma_de_poeta> someone can recommend a radio streaming aplication?
[20:06] <Pici> yeesh, patience.
[20:06] <srirams6_> I need some help with fonts
[20:06] <dlam> hmm when I ssh into my remote server it sometimes times out,  anyone know what to check?
[20:06] <JackR> If I do an apt-get upgrade before I install any openstack specific compute packages
[20:07] <ubuntuonmacmini> anyone who  can help me ?
[20:07] <srirams6_> I installed a couple packages and my fonts got corrupted. How do I reinstall my fonts?
[20:07] <JackR> that shouldnt have any effect I dont believe when I go to install the specific openstack compute packages
[20:07] <awesomess3> Alma_de_poeta, goto Pandora and create a free account & then: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pithos/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install pithos; pithos & #then login credentials and play :D
[20:07] <threeseas> Guythatneedshelp:  I don't know but given linux security, I'm sure there is a way but not so easy. you can perhaps use the "Ultimate boot CD" if you can find out what file to delete or edit.
[20:07] <adamcunnington> Hi, my sound was crackling but I've just installed the correct oem-hda-daily driver etc and it's fine now. However, if I go into sound settings and change mode to analogue surround 5.1 output, only the front left and right work on their own.
[20:07] <srirams6_> I installed a couple packages and my fonts got corrupted. How do I reinstall my fonts?
[20:08] <awesomess3> Alma_de_poeta, pithos uses less CPU than with firefox/chome/flash.
[20:08] <srirams6_> !query threeseas
[20:09] <wheatthin> awesomess3, chrome should use the gpu for rendering flash if drivers are installed correctly.
[20:09] <Alma_de_poeta> awesomess3:  sorry, but isnt pandora a monitoring software?
[20:09] <awesomess3> Alma_de_poeta, google pandora: Pandora Internet Radio - Listen to Free Music You'll Love
[20:09] <adamcunnington> speaker-test -c 5 only plays sound out of front left and front right, none of the others can individually play sound
[20:10] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Failed to add account \n running '/usr/sbin/adduser' failed: Child process exited with code 1
[20:10] <awesomess3> wheatthin, does 11.2 (the latest for Firefox) use the GPU for flash processing? Or just 14.0 (the latest for Chrome)?
[20:11] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I've been on ubuntu for a while now and never had such issues
[20:11] <Pici> GuyThatNeedsHelp: Can you please explain what you are trying to do and what command you are running to do it?
[20:11] <Ben64> GuyThatNeedsHelp: why are you using \n
[20:11] <wheatthin> 11.2 does, but installing 14.0 should have bug & security fixes
[20:12] <wheatthin> awesomess3, You have to go through the global flash settings though for gpu rendering.
[20:12] <Pici> GuyThatNeedsHelp: I was about to help you when you left earlier, is this related?
[20:12] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I'm using the GUI /usr/bin/gnome-control-center
[20:12] <adamcunnington> Can anyone help me with sound?
[20:12] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> trying to add an account
[20:12] <awesomess3> wheatthin, 11.2 always gets security fixes, the newest one, 11.2.202.394, was released this week, I'm 80% sure.
[20:13] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Pici: This issue isn't related to the last one
[20:13] <wheatthin> but some sites will refuse to work without the newest version.
[20:13] <tl_of_us> my screen flickers some everyonce in a while, i was in here before. with same prob. when i go to a nother desktop in the standard 4 that come with ubuntu 14.04 the flicker stops, i am running a full screen of windows and a video on the right screen and the chat and another browser on the left screen, when i go to another desktop the flash stops. it's one flash kind of fliker.
[20:13] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Ben64: \n = new line?
[20:13] <Aki-Thinkpad> anyone know of any ide that can be collaborative?
[20:13] <Aki-Thinkpad> desktop based
[20:13] <Pici> GuyThatNeedsHelp: sorry, I'm not a gui guy, maybe Ben64 can help.
[20:13] <Alma_de_poeta> awesomess3:  maybe is a mistake, i want to transmit to shoutcast server
[20:14] <Ben64> Pici: i'm not either :)
[20:14] <soulshake> on ubuntu server, is there a different motd displayed on the very first login than the one displayed on subsequent logins?
[20:14] <Ben64> but i did find this in the adduser manual. EXIT VALUES ....       1      Creating the user or group failed because it was already present              with other UID/GID than specified.
[20:14] <Ben64> GuyThatNeedsHelp: ^
[20:14] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Pici: then can you help me just make another account though terminal
[20:15] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> since i always get errors trying to make accounts
[20:15] <Pici> GuyThatNeedsHelp: sudo adduser someusername
[20:15] <wheatthin> it should be automated through terminal actually :)
[20:15] <Pici> GuyThatNeedsHelp: be suer to use "adduser" instead of "useradd"
[20:16] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> adduser: Please enter a username matching the regular expression configured via the NAME_REGEX[_SYSTEM] configuration variable.  Use the `--force-badname' option to relax this check or reconfigure NAME_REGEX.
[20:16] <Ben64> GuyThatNeedsHelp: what exactly did you type
[20:16] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Bob
[20:17] <Ben64> no capitals in front
[20:17] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> sudo adduser Bob
[20:17] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> But...
[20:17] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :(
[20:18] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> what does room number mean?
[20:18] <Ben64> you'll have to give some context
[20:18] <histo> GuyThatNeedsHelp: Like in a building, room 101 room 104
[20:18] <Pici> GuyThatNeedsHelp: feel free to provide nothing for things that don't apply.
[20:18] <webfox> hello folks!
[20:18] <histo> GuyThatNeedsHelp: doesn't really matter though
[20:18] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i see
[20:19] <webfox> how do I run the diagnostic tools from a desktop ubuntu flash drive?
[20:19] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> how can i make my new account admin
[20:19] <Ben64> webfox: "the diagnostic tools" which?
[20:20] <webfox> Ben64: the one it runs from boot and takes long time to run.
[20:20] <Ben64> GuyThatNeedsHelp: adding the account to the "sudo" group will allow it to use sudo
[20:20] <Ben64> webfox: no idea what you're talking about
[20:21] <Amadeus_> Hey there dear people
[20:21] <Amadeus_> I am having trouble launching an app !
[20:21] <webfox> Ben64: the tools to verify memory and disk issues, hardware tests.
[20:21] <stork91> Hello ubuntus
[20:21] <Amadeus_> Namely an executable for a game !
[20:22] <ubuntuonmacmini> great help
[20:22] <stork91> Before i go to bed tonight... I just want to take a second to publicly lament not using kubuntu before. It basically kicks the default's ass.
[20:22] <dannixon> Amadeus_: So what actually happens when you try to run it?
[20:22] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> But since i've unlocked my main account google-chrome gave me a bigger error
[20:22] <stork91> and plasma 5? OMG... i'll get that up and running tomorrow first thing.
[20:22] <Amadeus_> I get a "No such file or directory
[20:22] <ikonia> Amadeus_: this isn't a "wine" game is it
[20:23] <Amadeus_> No, it's a linux build of a Unity Engine Game
[20:23] <Amadeus_> I managed to run it on Mageia
[20:23] <Amadeus_> And now I am testing on ubuntu
[20:24] <Amadeus_> Basically I know for a fact that I am missing a library
[20:24] <ikonia> Amadeus_: how exactly are you trying to run it
[20:24] <Amadeus_> to run the game
[20:24] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> The error i get when typing in google-chrome in terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/7805374/
[20:24] <stork91> Seriously though... Ubuntu should look at Plasma 5 and think "How the hell do we not already have this? Oh yeah, we are stuck in @#$% colo(u)r scheme land."
[20:24] <Amadeus_> with ./EvenTheStars.86*
[20:24] <ikonia> Amadeus_: what is the file name of the game
[20:24] <stork91> im out.
[20:24] <Amadeus_> EvenTheStarsx86
[20:24] <Amadeus_> EvenTheStars.x86
[20:24] <Amadeus_> sorry
[20:24] <ikonia> Amadeus_: so why have you put a star next to it
[20:26] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I shall return
[20:26] <Amadeus_> Because when I use L to list, there is a star next to it
[20:26] <ikonia> Amadeus_: L to list ??
[20:26] <Amadeus_> I have the same "no such file or directory"
[20:26] <Amadeus_> well
[20:26] <Amadeus_> l
[20:26] <Amadeus_> put here l looks like I
[20:26] <ikonia> Amadeus_: where is the file on your system
[20:26] <ikonia> Amadeus_: what are you talking about ?
[20:27] <Amadeus_> ahah ok, let's not get confused here
[20:27] <Amadeus_> It's in
[20:27] <Amadeus_> it's in /Desktop/_LINUX
[20:28] <ikonia> Amadeus_: ok so "cd /Desktop/_LINUX"
[20:28] <ikonia> Amadeus_: then ls -la EvenTheStars.86
[20:28] <ikonia> Amadeus_: then show me the output
[20:29] <Amadeus_> This is what I get : -rwxrwxr-x 1 ubuntu ubuntu 16617452 Nov 25  2013 EvenTheStars.x86
[20:30] <ikonia> Amadeus_: thats great
[20:30] <ikonia> Amadeus_: now ./EvenTheStars.x86
[20:30] <Amadeus_> "No such file or directory"
[20:30] <ikonia> Amadeus_: ok, I suspect this is because it's a 32bit program on a 64bit install
[20:30] <ikonia> Amadeus_: and you're missing libraries
[20:31] <ikonia> Amadeus_: so please show me the ouptut of the command "uname -a" please
[20:31] <Amadeus_> Yes I had the same problem on Mageia !
[20:31] <Ben64> Amadeus_: "file EvenTheStars.x86"
[20:31] <Amadeus_> Linux ubuntu 3.13.0-24-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:11:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:31] <ikonia> Amadeus_: ok, so a 64bit os, and as Ben64 said please run "file EvenTheStars.x86"
[20:31] <ikonia> Amadeus_: and I suspect it will be 32bit elf
[20:32] <Amadeus_> EvenTheStars.x86: ELF 32-bit LSB  executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, BuildID[sha1]=f2f0983a52fafc83494ce3e2b0be59f28f5fc584, stripped
[20:32] <Ben64> it shouldn't say no such file or directory though from just being the wrong elf...
[20:32] <OCP001> "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs" should help then
[20:32] <ikonia> Ben64: it will
[20:32] <Ben64> ikonia: really?
[20:32] <ikonia> Ben64: because it's missing 32bit libs it's linked against
[20:32] <ikonia> Ben64: so thats what the no such file is the missing libs
[20:32] <Ben64> hmm, haven't experienced that here yet
[20:32] <ikonia> Ben64: pretty common
[20:32] <ikonia> Ben64: ldd will show a load of "not found" errors
[20:34] <Amadeus_> The libs (sudo apt-get install ia32-libs) has no installation candidate
[20:34] <ikonia> Amadeus_: that's correct
[20:34] <ikonia> Amadeus_: to be honest ,I'd advise you to dump this idea
[20:34] <ikonia> Amadeus_: I'm not trying to be mean, just honest
[20:34] <ikonia> if you're not confident mixing 32bit/64bit libs will end up wrecking your system
[20:35] <Amadeus_> Ahah I can't do that, it worked on another distro, no reason it wouldn't here
[20:35] <OCP001> oh, was the package name changed? I'm still on 12.04 LTS
[20:35] <ikonia> Amadeus_: I've just explained the reasons it doesn't work
[20:35] <Amadeus_> Ah ah !
[20:35] <Amadeus_> "However the following packages replace it:   lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 lib32bz2-1.0 lib32asound2"
[20:35] <ikonia> they are not packages you need
[20:35] <Ben64> not exactly correct, ia32-libs didn't get replaced, it was just outdated
[20:36] <Amadeus_> Are you quoting obi wan kenobi ?
[20:36] <Ben64> was a funky hack to get 32 bit libraries when multiarch was relatively new
[20:37] <Amadeus_> Okay well, thanks for the help anyhow
[20:37]  * ObrienDave will not suggest how to get ia32-libs working LOL
[20:37] <eoan> I have a usb dac which I can't get working on 14.04; it is listed by lsusb but does not appear in cat /proc/asound/cards.  I've tried following advice in the forum but I've had no joy (many of the forum entries are several years old).  Is there a good step-by-step guide I can try?
[20:37] <ikonia> ObrienDave you don't get it working - it's dead
[20:37] <friendlyfascism> eoan, what is a usb dac?
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[20:37] <shelley> ghCUea FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ 
[20:37] <robin> opLUmx FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐs
[20:37] <Guest41068> opLUmx FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ F
[20:37] <shelley> opLUmx FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ 
[20:37] <yuh> opLUmx FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ P
[20:37] <robin> guUGoq FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐs
[20:37] <Guest41068> guUGoq FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ F
[20:37] <yuh> guUGoq FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ P
[20:37] <shelley> guUGoq FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ 
[20:37] <robin> zrNPqs FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐs
[20:37] <Guest41068> zrNPqs FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ F
[20:38]  * robin tsCWxs FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ Fr
[20:38]  * Guest41068 tsCWxs FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ Pal
[20:38]  * shelley tsCWxs FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐsti
[20:38]  * yuh tsCWxs FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstin
[20:38] <robin> wqTFew FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐs
[20:38] <Guest41068> wqTFew FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ F
[20:38] <shelley> wqTFew FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ 
[20:38] <yuh> wqTFew FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ P
[20:38]  * robin irPKiy FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ Fr
[20:38]  * Guest41068 irPKiy FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ Pal
[20:38]  * shelley irPKiy FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐsti
[20:38] <histo> wow
[20:38] <robin> myUUtv FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐs
[20:38] <Guest41068> myUUtv FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ F
[20:38] <shelley> myUUtv FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ 
[20:38] <vigyan> myUUtv FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐ
[20:38] <ikonia> sorry chaps muted the whole channel for a few minutes
[20:38] <ikonia> please hold on
[20:38] <ikonia> no-one can see you talking
[20:39] <robin> wgIHoe FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐs
[20:39] <Guest41068> wgIHoe FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ F
[20:39] <vigyan> wgIHoe FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐ
[20:39] <yuh> wgIHoe FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ P
[20:39] <shelley> wgIHoe FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ 
[20:39] <robin> vzWLfr FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐs
[20:39] <Guest41068> vzWLfr FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ F
[20:39] <vigyan> vzWLfr FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐ
[20:39] <yuh> vzWLfr FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ P
[20:39] <shelley> vzWLfr FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ 
[20:40] <wheatthin> hmm.. I wonder what's up with that?
[20:40] <ikonia> ok - sorry about that
[20:40] <ikonia> lets see what happens now
[20:40] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tis ok
[20:40] <rewbycraft> I'm gone for 5 minutes and the channel explodes. >.<
[20:40] <bgardner> Thanks ikonia
[20:40] <OCP001> trolls gonna troll :(
[20:40] <eoan> wow :D
[20:40] <rfs> jaMFfq FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐst
[20:40] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ya
[20:40] <jie> jaMFfq FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ Pa
[20:40] <Guest25951> jaMFfq FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐ
[20:40]  * rfs gtCGdy FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐ
[20:40]  * jie gtCGdy FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ
[20:40] <wheatthin> There are places to protest, but not in a ubuntu support channel
[20:40]  * Guest25951 gtCGdy FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐs
[20:40] <giovanne> jaMFfq FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ Pa
[20:40]  * giovanne gtCGdy FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ
[20:40] <niko> we can blame you, rewbycraft
[20:40] <rymate1234> wytf
[20:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> well that was brief
[20:41] <rewbycraft> Ikonia... I appreciate your work. But it seems we require more of it.
[20:41] <rymate1234> ugh so inpatient
[20:41] <rymate1234> how are we supposed to free palestine in 2 minutes
[20:41] <aress> What
[20:41] <ikonia> all - just to confirm the channel is now only available to registered freenode users, join #freenode or read www.freenode.net about how to register
[20:41] <rymate1234> typical users
[20:41] <ikonia> until you register you won't be able to talk
[20:41] <friendlyfascism> no comments needed let the mods do their work please
[20:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> rymate1234 easy, just close the running application
[20:41] <ikonia> we'll remove this need later in the day when the spamming stops
[20:41] <ikonia> sorry
[20:41] <rewbycraft> niko:Yup.
[20:42] <rymate1234> ToAruShiroiNeko, which running application
[20:42] <rymate1234> i have like 10
[20:42] <friendlyfascism> eoan, Ah, digital to analog I assume, do you have any evidence it should work?
[20:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> rymate1234 palestine is ram
[20:43] <rewbycraft> ikonia: No problem. (I'm registered so it doesn't matter to me.)
[20:43] <rewbycraft> ikonia: Appreciate the work though.
[20:43]  * GladiaTeur Slaps Release_ Around a bit with a large trout
[20:44] <gil> lpQKti FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ Pa
[20:44] <robyn> lpQKti FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐ
[20:44] <clark> lpQKti FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ
[20:44] <jean-cla> lpQKti FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ F
[20:44] <swane> lpQKti FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstin
[20:44]  * gil cgSKli FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ
[20:44]  * robyn cgSKli FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐs
[20:44]  * clark cgSKli FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐst
[20:44]  * jean-cla cgSKli FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ Pal
[20:44]  * swane cgSKli FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ PalÃĐstinÃĐ FrÃĐÃĐ 
[20:44]  * ObrienDave already registered
[20:44] <ToAruShiroiNeko> may I suggest alerting IRCops
[20:44] <rymate1234> they seem to react to channel mode changes
[20:44] <Pici> they're aware
[20:44] <ToAruShiroiNeko> these guys seem to be begging for a kline
[20:44] <rewbycraft> They're ALIVE!
[20:44] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hmm
[20:44] <Pici> I mean the freenode IRC staff are aware.
[20:46] <eoan> friendlyfacism, sorry for  the delay, registering.  Yes, it worked on 13.10 - I nuked & paved and tonight is the first time I tried to use it
[20:47] <friendlyfascism> eoan, Any setup needed originally e.g. drivers, codecs...etc?
[20:47] <friendlyfascism> post the lsusb info as well.
[20:50] <eoan> friendlyfacism, I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UsbAudioDevices which got it going.  Can I post the lsusb straight into the channel or should I use pastebin/something?
[20:50] <friendlyfascism> eoan, If only a couple lines here is okay, is it working now?
[20:51] <eoan> friendlyfacism, no, I followed that guide again but it didn't work, and the card doesn't appear in /proc/asound/cards
[20:52] <eoan> the relevant line from lsusb is: Bus 002 Device 005: ID 1852:7022 GYROCOM C&C Co., LTD
[20:55] <friendlyfascism> eoan, might be worth looking at a GYROCOM is involved, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/904229
[20:57] <friendlyfascism> eoan, Not an issue I'm really up on however that lsusb info is key for help here, just a heads up is all. ;)
[20:58] <Alma_de_poeta> is posible to route and mix the audio from one aplication to others?
[20:58] <rAnDoM-gUy> Hello all. I have a quick question regarding Ubuntu 14 desktop x64 and iptables. My old firewall settings worked fine in past versions. Did they change anything?
[20:58] <rewbycraft> Alma_de_poeta: Yes.
[20:58] <rAnDoM-gUy> In regards to iptables at least.
[20:59] <rewbycraft> rAnDoM-gUy: I don't think so, why?
[20:59] <Alma_de_poeta> rewbycraft:  how?
[20:59] <youtah> Howdy! I am running metacity in Ubuntu 14.04 (because compiz kept freaking out). Anywho.... I have an icon in my quick launch area (next to the Applications and Places drop downs) that I cannot delete. If I right click on the icon, the only two items in the context menu is "Launch" or "Properties." Thoughts?
[21:00] <xangua> youtah: hold shift or alt, don't remember
[21:00] <xangua> while you right clic
[21:00] <youtah> Alt did the trick!
[21:00] <youtah> Thank you VERY much xangua!!!!!!!!!!
[21:00] <eoan> friendlyfacism, thanks for the link, it's plugged into onboard USB2 port so could well be the problem, I'll see if I get anything out of it with speaker-test  - sorry, I'm not sure what you mean about the lsusb info :D I should post that with the question, or should have checked something first?
[21:01]  * youtah sends karma xangua's way :)
[21:02] <youtah> (good karma)
[21:02] <rewbycraft> Alma_de_poeta: Pulseaudio has output-monitors. This seems to be what you want: http://askubuntu.com/questions/257992/how-can-i-use-pulseaudio-virtual-audio-streams-to-play-music-over-skype
[21:02] <friendlyfascism> eoan, The devices info is important to get help "1852:7022 GYROCOM C&C Co., LTD" Often the name and this info are different but for help it is important as devices may have the same hardware but differing manufactures is all.
[21:03] <furkan> Ubuntu 14.04 is continuing to drive me nuts. Viewing this GIF in Chromium results in 20% CPU usage, whereas it's less than 5% in 12.04: http://forums.accuweather.com/uploads/post-13204-1336091269.gif
[21:04] <furkan> on identical systems
[21:04] <furkan> something is seriously wrong with CPU usage on 14.04
[21:04] <OerHeks> furkan, depends on the videodriver loaded, i guess
[21:05] <furkan> OerHeks: same driver
[21:05] <furkan> nvidia proprietary driver to be specific
[21:05] <eoan> friendlyfacism, got you :) no luck with speaker-test, but I'm not familiar with that so maybe I'm doing it wrong :D
[21:06] <awesomess3> furkan, give me like 13 minutes and I'll check chromium on Xubuntu 14.04 with integrated Intel HD 4000 graphics.
[21:07] <furkan> awesomess3: awesome, eagerly awaiting your results :)
[21:07] <furkan> if you don't have any issues, i'll try switching over to Xubuntu as well to see what happens
[21:09] <cool_boy> I took server on local machine using ssh, now to leave from local , I want process stay running on server, used nohup ./processfile & but not working
[21:11] <TJ-> furkan: With nvidia proprietary here, chromium on 14.04 is using ~13% CPU ... ~12% on Firefox 31
[21:13] <furkan> TJ-: using Unity? because i'm getting 20% vs 5% on the identical machine, comparing 14.04 vs 12.04
[21:13] <furkan> with an i7-920
[21:14] <zsw1> Hello
[21:14] <awesomess3> furkan, ummmmmmm...I tried running Chromium, the latest one (34.0.1847.116 Ubuntu 14.04 aura). And it is too buggy to even do anything on. When I switch workspaces on Xubuntu Chromium's graphics are decimated. I got done recently installing libc6 and other packages so I don't know if that messed up with Chromium's graphics processing. I can't restart my machine because I'm on a LiveUSB/LiveCD.
[21:14] <furkan> i tried it on a colleague's box with an i7-4770 w/ 12.04 and it's 1-2% to display the same GIF
[21:14] <awesomess3> furkan, firefox works fine though.
[21:14] <furkan> i'm just finding that in general, 14.04 is using wayyy more CPU than 12.04
[21:15] <TJ-> furkan: No, using KDE
[21:15] <furkan> even just moving around a Nautilus window uses 20-50% CPU, as opposed to 10% in 12.04
[21:15] <furkan> TJ-: interesting
[21:15] <furkan> awesomess3: how much CPU does firefox use to display that GIF?
[21:15] <kasiisomi> any recovery too  for help
[21:16] <friendlyfascism> furkan, There is not exact answer, as you show your friends has different readings.
[21:16] <friendlyfascism> no*
[21:16] <kasiisomi>     anyone with recovery tool idea  to help
[21:16] <awesomess3> furkan, 2.9% (without) to 4.4% (with)
[21:16] <friendlyfascism> kasiisomi, What kind of recovery, state the actual issue.
[21:16] <awesomess3> oh now 5.9%
[21:17] <furkan> friendlyfascism: of course it will vary, but when we're talking 5% vs 20% that's a big difference
[21:17] <furkan> and i'm talking on identical hardware
[21:17] <awesomess3> now 6.5%
[21:17] <friendlyfascism> furkan, Sure, however that does not indicate you will find an exact answer, especially here all you will get are subjective opinions. ;O)
[21:17] <awesomess3> now 7.1%.....wtf
[21:18] <furkan> awesomess3: let me check with firefox
[21:18] <friendlyfascism> furkan, To many outliers is all.
[21:19] <SamwiseGamgee> I noticed my Software and Updates checked Unsupported Updates, is this a problem?
[21:19] <furkan> my main issue is that Ubuntu 14.04 has been feeling a lot more laggy compared to 12.04, so i'm trying to find some kind of reliable way to quantify it
[21:19] <furkan> seems like a difficult task
[21:19] <friendlyfascism> SamwiseGamgee, pastebin a apt-get evidence of this.
[21:20] <kasiisomi> friendlyfascism,  accidentally ubuntu during installation    with theoption replace windws 8 with ubuntu what it does removing all OS and remain as with only ubuntu
[21:20] <DMA> Hello. Which package does contain Perl module Mail/IMAPClient.pm in 12.03.3 LTS?
[21:20] <friendlyfascism> kasiisomi, That is hard to tell exactly what you mean.
[21:21] <friendlyfascism> kasiisomi, Is it you want to recover W8?
[21:21] <SamwiseGamgee> why do you want evidence of it?   I can clearly see it in my Software Updater Settings
[21:22] <kasiisomi> friendlyfascism,  what i want is to  to get the data formated with ubuntu during installation
[21:22] <friendlyfascism> SamwiseGamgee, Because often it has to do with missing keys and we need to see the source e.g. is it an additional repo added.
[21:23] <TJ-> furkan: The display process: "chromium-browser --type=gpu-process --channel=13205.0.864036085 --supports-dual-gpus=false --gpu-driver-bug-workarounds=0,1,17,28,34 --disable-accelerated-video-decode --gpu-vendor-id=0x10de --gpu-device-id=0x06f8 --gpu-driver-vendor=NVIDIA --gpu-driver-version=337"
[21:23] <friendlyfascism> kasiisomi, What data? Is english your native language, we seem to having an issue here?
[21:23] <furkan> TJ-: where do you get that info?
[21:24] <TJ-> furkan: "ps -efly | grep chromium"
[21:24] <SamwiseGamgee> I am unfamiliar with the "apt - get evidence" command
[21:24] <furkan> cool, thanks TJ-
[21:24] <kasiisomi> friendlyfascism,  i have some partition in hdd  so  how can i retrieve those data
[21:24] <friendlyfascism> SamwiseGamgee, In other words exact info is needed if you want an exact answer.
[21:24] <SamwiseGamgee> I don't think that command would work, friendlyfascism
[21:24] <OerHeks> DMA https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/libmail-imapclient-perl
[21:25] <DMA> Thank you, OerHeks
[21:25] <friendlyfascism> SamwiseGamgee, What command, are you not familiar with apt-get update and apt-get upgrade?
[21:25] <DMA> OerHeks: is there any way to know which package contains a file? like what "yum provides" does?
[21:25] <SamwiseGamgee> I have "Unsupported Updates (Trusty-backports" checked on my Software and Updates Setttings
[21:25] <DMA> OerHeks: I'm sure I'll need to get some other modules installed for this program
[21:26] <TJ-> SamwiseGamgee: No, it isn't a problem. It's 'fancy' language for saying that the $RELEASE-backports component is enabled
[21:26] <friendlyfascism> kasiisomi, Mount it and retrieve the data, if this is a windows partition ##windows might be better for this.
[21:26] <OerHeks> DMA, usually ubottu is a bot here, that can find any package, unfortunatly it is now offline
[21:26] <SamwiseGamgee> there is probably a command I can use in the konsole to show all the repositories, but I don't know how to do that
[21:26] <DMA> SamwiseGamgee: why don't you just take a look in /etc/apt/sources.{d,list} ?
[21:27] <SamwiseGamgee> d,list?
[21:27] <friendlyfascism> SamwiseGamgee, Pastebin all the info from in the terminal sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     you can hit n for no on the install.
[21:27] <kasiisomi> friendlyfascism, i think you didint get me wel
[21:27] <friendlyfascism> !pastebin | SamwiseGamgee
[21:27] <kasiisomi> friendlyfascism,  how can mount the formated partition
[21:27] <friendlyfascism> kasiisomi, Is english your native language?
[21:28] <cool_boy> 100% CUP use can cause process kill?
[21:28] <cool_boy> CPU*
[21:28] <friendlyfascism> kasiisomi, Ah you wiped it, probably not much recoverable, but try testdisk
[21:28] <DMA> SamwiseGamgee: sources.list and sources.d (sorry, BASH abbreviation)
[21:29] <kasiisomi> friendlyfascism,  testdisk  already tried but nothing  was achieved
[21:29] <SamwiseGamgee> What does 'd' stand for?
[21:29] <friendlyfascism> kasiisomi, I doubt you will get anything than to be honest, you should of had all that backed up.
[21:30] <friendlyfascism> SamwiseGamgee, Use nicks as a preface when addressing others here.
[21:30] <SamwiseGamgee> friendlyfascism, does this work?
[21:30] <friendlyfascism> SamwiseGamgee, Yes perfect.
[21:30] <kasiisomi> friendlyfascism,  may be we can use team viewer
[21:31] <kasiisomi> friendlyfascism,  u can access it remotely
[21:31] <TJ-> SamwiseGamgee: "grep '^deb ' /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list"
[21:31] <friendlyfascism> kasiisomi, I don't nor does any legit helper here we don't roll that way
[21:31] <SamwiseGamgee> grep?
[21:32] <friendlyfascism> kasiisomi, Leting some random person on the web access is a bad idea.
[21:33] <kendrick_> any preloaded software to format hdds?
[21:33] <friendlyfascism> kendrick_, The terminal, but gparted works nicely install it.
[21:33] <awesomess3> Well.......after 8 minutes of running a .gif in Firefox it's using 9.7% of a i3 1.9GHz CPU, congratulations Mozilla.
[21:33] <kasiisomi> friendlyfascism,  let me send to you  snapshot
[21:33] <SamwiseGamgee> It sounds like too many commands to paste on pastebin at once, I didn't realize I had such a complicated problem
[21:33] <friendlyfascism> kasiisomi, I can't help you, testdisk finds nothing I doubt you have a chance.
[21:33] <awesomess3> furkan, see my last post ^^^
[21:34] <SamwiseGamgee> if it's such a complicated problem, it will take a long time to fix
[21:34] <TJ-> SamwiseGamgee: There you go... auto-send to pastebin: "grep '^deb ' /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list | pastebinit"
[21:35] <kasiisomi> friendlyfascism,  let me send to you  those snapshot of a testdisk
[21:35] <SamwiseGamgee> I better wait until I have more time to fix it.  If it was an easy fix, I would do it now, but it will take too long, and it looks very challenging to fix
[21:35] <TJ-> SamwiseGamgee: It's taken you longer to type all those messages than it would to run the command :)
[21:35] <furkan> awesomess3: thanks! oddly enough it seems that firefox uses less CPU than chromium for displaying GIFs lol, even though it seems to consume more for other tasks
[21:38] <SamwiseGamgee> I don't know how to use grep, but those two other commands look easy
[21:39] <TJ-> SamwiseGamgee: I've given you the *exact* command to execute... type everything inside the double-quotes and press Enter
[21:41] <SamwiseGamgee> I doubt that would work, TJ, because there is no pastebin address specified
[21:41] <TJ-> SamwiseGamgee: You're obviously the expert, I'll leave it to you
[21:42] <DMA> How can I ask ubottu to find a file inside a package?
[21:42] <DMA> cc OerHeks
[21:42] <k1l> DMA: just use packages.ubuntu.com
[21:42] <xangua> DMA /msg ubottu find something
[21:42] <DMA> thx xangua
[21:43] <peter__> hi everyone
[21:43] <furkan> SamwiseGamgee: grep is awesome, one of the first tools i fell in love with after converting to linux lol
[21:45] <friendlyfascism> atLarge, kendrick_, The terminal, but gparted works nicely install it.
[21:45] <SamwiseGamgee> damn it, my PC is downloading way too much unsupported updates
[21:45] <ikonia> unsupported updates ?
[21:45] <eoan> friendlyfacism, thanks for trying to help, I'm going to put the kettle on and trawl google some more tomorrow :)
[21:45] <SamwiseGamgee> Yeah, and they told me not to follow TJ's advice about pastebin
[21:46] <peter__> I have some problems with USB - ports have no power.
[21:46] <peter__> Here's my dmesg: http://pastebin.com/E9NqbSQC
[21:46] <SamwiseGamgee> so, I got to fix this problem on my own, without using pastebin
[21:46] <peter__> Last 40 lines, exactly
[21:46] <ikonia> why can't you use a pastebin ?
[21:46] <TJ-> peter__: What's the make/model ?
[21:47] <SamwiseGamgee> they said it's not safe to show strangers pastebin
[21:47] <peter__> Toshiba satellite NT10t
[21:47] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: it's fine
[21:47] <awesomess3> that's really cool that `pastebinit` comes with 14.04
[21:47] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: just pastebin the information for people to see
[21:47] <peter__> lsusb shows only the root hubs
[21:48] <peter__> What can I do to make this stuff working properly?
[21:48] <SamwiseGamgee> It's too late, anyway, I can't find his instructions for pastebein
[21:48] <ikonia> "grep '^deb' /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list | pastebinit"
[21:48] <ikonia> there you go
[21:48] <peter__> Sometimes after boot everything is working fine, I can't say what's wrong.
[21:48] <TJ-> ikonia: you missed out the space after 'deb' :)
[21:49] <TJ-> ikonia: without the space it'll report "deb-src" lines... I was filtering those out
[21:49] <ikonia> TJ-: there is s space there
[21:49] <TJ-> ikonia: in the grep expression, as in "grep '^deb ' /etc/..."
[21:49] <ikonia> ahhh
[21:50] <ikonia> sorry, must have missed it in the copy paste
[21:50] <ikonia> I just copied your line earlier
[21:50] <TJ-> ikonia: that's weird, I'm sure I typed the space !
[21:51] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: '^deb ' /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list | pastebinit"
[21:51] <ikonia> there you go, all corrected
[21:51] <TJ-> peter__: I can't find any mention of an NT10 model ... strange. The ports are USB3?
[21:51] <ikonia> oh come on
[21:51] <ikonia> buffer fail
[21:51] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: "grep '^deb ' /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list | pastebinit"
[21:51] <ikonia> there you go,
[21:51] <ikonia> sorry about that
[21:52] <peter__> TJ-: NB10t, sorry for typo
[21:52] <TJ-> peter__: ahhh!
[21:52] <peter__> TJ-: 2 * usb 2.0 and 1 * 3.0, nothing works counting in the internal ones for bluetooth and touchscreen
[21:52] <SamwiseGamgee> I ghink I got it
[21:53] <TJ-> peter__: Can you pastebin the entire dmesg?
[21:53] <peter__> I don't kknow why (usb has no power) but keyboard and touchpad works ok
[21:53] <SamwiseGamgee> yes
[21:53] <peter__> TJ-: ok, sec
[21:53] <SamwiseGamgee> I changed my username and computer name
[21:53] <SamwiseGamgee> so it's safe to paste it
[21:53] <ikonia> it is safe to paste anyway
[21:53] <nAn00k> n00buntu
[21:54] <peter__> TJ-: here's it: http://pastebin.com/2f7zEEhS
[21:55] <TJ-> peter__: looking
[21:57] <gimmic> okay
[21:57] <gimmic> I've been fighting this issue for two days now
[21:57] <SamwiseGamgee> TJ, I got it
[21:57] <SamwiseGamgee> http://pastebin.com/UyaT5MsQ
[21:57] <gimmic> new LTS box installs with 3.13.0-30 kernel, due to code I need to load 3.13.0-29
[21:58] <gimmic> I install linux-image and linux-kernel of those, update-grub etc
[21:58] <gimmic> reboot, can't find root partition in that kernel
[21:58] <ikonia> gimmic: that isn't the stock kernel
[21:58] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[21:58] <ikonia> !info kernel-image
[21:58] <TJ-> peter__: Can you show me "lspci -nnvk | pastebinit" ?
[21:58] <ikonia> !info linux-kernel
[21:58] <ikonia> never mind
[21:59] <gimmic> what isn't the stock kernel?
[21:59] <SamwiseGamgee> TJ, ikonia, did you look at my posted pastebin text to help with my unsupported updates?
[21:59] <SamwiseGamgee> http://pastebin.com/UyaT5MsQ
[21:59] <SamwiseGamgee> TJ, there it is again
[21:59] <ikonia> !info linux-image-generic
[22:00] <ikonia> there we go, 3.13.0.30.36 is stock
[22:00] <peter__> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7805878/
[22:00] <ikonia> and current
[22:00] <ben_g> I'm looking for a way to reset my bluetooth adapter (internal adapter of a laptop, ububtu 14.04 LTS)
[22:00] <SamwiseGamgee> Did any experts here see my paste?
[22:00] <gimmic> hmm
[22:00] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: what's the actual problem ?
[22:01] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: your paste looks fine, standard ubuntu repos
[22:01] <SamwiseGamgee> Unsupported updates
[22:01] <peter__> By the way I've just discovered pastebininit - terrific tool, no more copying 'n pasting :-)
[22:01] <ikonia> why do you think they are unsupported ?
[22:01] <gimmic> anyway, when I load the previous kernel it doesn't detect my lvm root partition anymore, and awesome busybox doesn't detect USB keyboard
[22:01] <SamwiseGamgee> My updater settings shows me the Unsupported updates box is checked
[22:01] <TJ-> peter__: OK, so 00:14.0 is the USB controller
[22:01] <awesomess3> lol I love it when /* renders as /* :)
[22:02] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: can you take a screen shot of what you mean ?
[22:02] <ben_g> Is there a way to disconnect and reconnect an internal bluetooth adapter trough software?
[22:02] <SamwiseGamgee> yes
[22:02] <peter__> TJ-: sure, I can see it, but I have no idea what am I supposed to do ;x
[22:03] <SamwiseGamgee> But how do I open the updater?
[22:03] <ObrienDave> look for software and sources
[22:03] <peter__> I googled already for this kernel controler, xhci_hcd, but I can't fix this crap
[22:04] <SamwiseGamgee> It looks like the only way to open the updater is to wait for it to update automatically
[22:04] <TJ-> peter__: I would have expected to see more than the one USB controller. I *suspect* the problem is that there are 3 missing PCI bridge windows. I suggest you try adding "pci=use_crs" to the kernel command line, by editing "/etc/default/grub" and modifying it to "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="pci=realloc,use_crs"  ", save, then do "sudo update-grub", and try a reboot
[22:05] <Symphonym> I have two left-over screens and was wondering if it's possible for me to connect them to my laptop using something like "DualHead2Go"? As far as I know my graphics card supports it, not sure about Ubuntu though, or "DualHead2Go" working with linux.
[22:05] <nodejs-bot> Nodejs IRC bot test
[22:05] <SamwiseGamgee> I will have to wait for the updater to openn automatically, there is no other way to open the updater
[22:05] <nodejs-bot> Nodejs IRC bot test
[22:05] <TJ-> ben_g: It depends how the BT adapter is connected. Sometimes its via an internal USB port. On some systems it is possible to power-cycle a single port, but it is very hit and miss
[22:05] <SamwiseGamgee> I had no idea this was such a challenging and complicated problem.  I tought it was a simple problem that could be resolved in a minute
[22:05] <nodejs-bot> Nodejs IRC bot test
[22:06] <ikonia> nodejs-bot: please /part
[22:06] <nodejs-bot> Nodejs IRC bot test
[22:06] <peter__> TJ-: ok, I'll try it. If ubuntu will not boot so I can chat here how to remove these parameters and go back with previous?
[22:06] <ben_g> Is there an other way to fully reset the bluetooth adapter then?
[22:06] <SamwiseGamgee> The updater on Xubuntu is difficult to access, in fact, probably impossible
[22:07] <kostkon> ben_g, sudo hciconfig hci0 reset   assuming hci0 is your adapter.  You can list the available bluetooth devices with:  hcitool dev
[22:08] <arpad2> hi, any idea how to connect hp wi fi printer? I'm getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7805860/ ?
[22:08] <ben_g> How do I know if it was reset? The command gives me no output
[22:09] <TJ-> peter__: You could try these out manually, too. Instead of the modification I gave you, reboot the PC, hold down Shift key to get to the GRUB boot menu, Press 'e' to edit the Ubuntu entry, navigate to the line beginning "linux ...." and add them to the end of that line, then Ctrl+X to eXecute that and boot
[22:09] <TJ-> ben_g: It may be possible to reset it by unloading/reloading the driver
[22:10] <kostkon> ben_g, you could check in your syslog or kern.log, use the System Log app for that or from the terminal with e.g.  gedit /var/log/syslog  or nano /var/log/syslog
[22:10] <itmustbejj> Can anyone recommend a grep or awk solution to pipe onto a tail call to highlight matches without filtering the results?
[22:11] <ikonia> itmustbejj: I have no idea what you've just asked, but it sounds like #bash would be your best bet
[22:11] <TJ-> itmustbejj: Can you explain a bit more?
[22:11] <kostkon> ben_g, it should say that your adapter was reset / bluetooth was reloaded or something along those lines
[22:11] <itmustbejj> tail -f /var/log/log.log | <something grep/awk fu to highlight "sample text"
[22:11] <ben_g> Ok, it seems to have been reset
[22:11] <awesomess3> cat whatever.txt | grep --color=always highlightThisYo | less _R
[22:11] <itmustbejj> like If I do tail -f log.log | grep "sample text" sample text matches are highlighted but it also filters for those rows
[22:12] <itmustbejj> awesomess3: thanks :)
[22:12] <ben_g> It still doesn't seem to work, unfortunately :(
[22:12] <awesomess3> itmustbejj, less -R    ***
[22:12] <awesomess3> itmustbejj,  grep --color=always highlightThisYo whatever.txt | less -R
[22:14] <peter__> Hi again
[22:14] <peter__> TJ-: last dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/7805927/
[22:14] <peter__> and last lspci -nnvk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7805931/
[22:15] <ben_g> So I already made sure there are no hard/soft blocks, installed the driver packages, and tried resetting the adapter. What else can cause bluetooth to not work?
[22:15] <SamwiseGamgee> Imagebin was reported as an attack page....http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[22:15] <TJ-> itmustbejj: You mean like this? "tail -n 1000 -f ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/Freenode-#ubuntu.log | grep -C 999 itmustbejj " ?
[22:15] <TJ-> peter__: looking, thanks
[22:16] <peter__> TJ-: thx for your time :-)
[22:16] <TJ-> peter__: Can you show me "lspci -nnvk | pastebinit" again?
[22:16] <SamwiseGamgee> My xubuntu blocked imagebin as an attack page.......http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[22:16] <peter__> The last link i post is done after reboot
[22:16] <peter__> I posted*
[22:17] <kostkon> SamwiseGamgee, yeah, just use imgur.com
[22:17] <peter__> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7805943/
[22:19] <TJ-> peter__: thanks. The issue seems to be a kernel panic caused by the xhci controller "WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 29 at /build/buildd/linux-3.13.0/drivers/usb/host/xhci-ring.c:1572 handle_cmd_completion+0xe2a/0xe40()" - see line ~805
[22:19] <SamwiseGamgee> Wow, xubuntu sucks.  I will have to deal with this complicated mess of a problem later, when I have time.  My screenshots also showed my full name. this is a wild goose chase that will never end.
[22:19] <brontosaurusrex> itmustbejj, how about: grep --color -E "test|$" yourfile.txt
[22:19] <brontosaurusrex> ( http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/366/convince-grep-to-output-all-lines-not-just-those-with-matches )
[22:19] <peter__> TJ-: any other controller I can use? Is there a option such update or rollback?
[22:19] <awesomess3> SamwiseGamgee, what browser were you using?
[22:20] <SamwiseGamgee> Firefox
[22:20] <TJ-> peter__: Has this worked with other kernels?
[22:21] <awesomess3> SamwiseGamgee, yeah even Google blocks it as a website that can harm your computer.
[22:21] <peter__> TJ-: on debian usb was ok, but I haven't check the controller name
[22:21] <SamwiseGamgee> I'm so suck of xubuntu now.  I'm almost willing to shell out 200 dollars to get Windows 7, or however much it costs.  Probably costs more than my car
[22:21] <awesomess3> xD
[22:21] <miko> I have a DN2800MT, graphic support is tricky. But I don't need graphics, I just want to boot in console  mode.
[22:21] <peter__> TJ-: and, as I typed: sometimes after boot everything works properly. Not offen, sadly.
[22:21] <kasiisomi> klklnj;l j
[22:22] <TJ-> peter__: It looks as if it could be a kernel bug, for sure. I'd recommend trying an Ubuntu-built latest mainline kernel
[22:22] <kasiisomi> kgnip;
[22:22] <miko> That however does not work. I added nosetmode and vga=769
[22:22] <SamwiseGamgee> but at least with Windows I don't have to spend my weekends trying to fix bugs that keep coming back
[22:22] <awesomess3> SamwiseGamgee, what is the updater on xubuntu? I'm using Xubuntu 14.04
[22:22] <TJ-> peter__: If you want to try that, read here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[22:22] <peter__> TJ-: thx, I will
[22:22] <SamwiseGamgee> It's called Updater, I think
[22:22] <awesomess3> SamwiseGamgee, wait I need to scroll up more...
[22:22] <miko> but after a very fast and short console scrolling ubuntu goes into another graphics mode, crashing the mashine
[22:22] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: if you focus on resolving any questions you have with people that can help you rather than complaining - you'll get a resolution
[22:23] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: if you're not happy with that, I suggest you use an operating system your more comfortable with, as you suggest such as windows
[22:23] <SamwiseGamgee> yeah, I treied that several times
[22:23] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: where is the screen shot I asked for ?
[22:24] <SamwiseGamgee> I need to register to another website that is safer for screenshots
[22:24] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: right - so instead of complaining - do that
[22:24] <brontosaurusrex> SamwiseGamgee, you would actuall switch an OS to overcome a screenshot problem?
[22:25] <awesomess3> SamwiseGamgee, "I have 'Unsupported Updates (Trusty-backports' checked on my Software and Updates Setttings" well...if that doesn't add the repository then we have a bug to submit for the Xubuntu updater app or whatever.
[22:25] <SamwiseGamgee> the problems never end, hours every week of wasted time
[22:25] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: stop complaining
[22:25] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: get the information you are asked for
[22:25] <edition> how can i setup a Samba share, quickly?
[22:25] <TJ-> SamwiseGamgee: The software updater is in package update-manager. The executable is, I think, "/usr/bin/update-manager"
[22:26] <awesomess3> I think Samwise is amusing :D
[22:26] <miko> It says vga=771 is deprecated. But what should i use instead?
[22:26] <awesomess3> maybe we should all quit computers, that'll solve it
[22:27] <ikonia> awesomess3: you're not helping
[22:28] <awesomess3> Samwise left! nnooooooooo
[22:28] <ikonia> awesomess3: stop
[22:28] <TJ-> Jul 16 22:19:27 <SamwiseGamgee> I noticed my Software and Updates checked Unsupported Updates, is this a problem?
[22:28] <TJ-> Jul 16 22:26:02 <TJ->   SamwiseGamgee: No, it isn't a problem. It's 'fancy' language for saying that the $RELEASE-backports component is enabled
[22:28] <ikonia> TJ-: which is backed up by his paste
[22:29] <TJ-> ikonia: So, I'm not sure what the problem was!
[22:29] <ikonia> TJ-: this is why I wanted the screen shot to just verify
[22:29] <awesomess3> so all he needed to do was `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install update-manager` ?
[22:29] <ikonia> awesomess3: no
[22:29] <TJ-> ikonia: I suspect the user thought because updates were enabled, newer packages ought to be installed?
[22:29] <ikonia> there was no real problem
[22:29] <ikonia> TJ-: possibly
[22:30] <ikonia> TJ-: again just needed the screen shot to veirfy what he thought he saw was / was not really a proble
[22:30] <ikonia> problem
[22:30] <ikonia> due to his wording/description being poor
[22:30] <TJ-> awesomess3: "update-manager" is a core component
[22:31] <OerHeks> miko, out of my head  vga=792
[22:31] <awesomess3> so I don't get it, doesn't making backports available produce more packages to be downloadable via synaptic/update-manager/apt-get?
[22:31] <TJ-> ikonia: I read the question as being worried over the words "Unsupported Updates", and the other statements about pastebin insecurity tend to back that up
[22:31] <ikonia> awesomess3: yes it does
[22:31] <ikonia> TJ-: yes, that's as I read it also
[22:32] <OerHeks> miko https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootText
[22:32] <TJ-> awesomess3: -backports simply means if there's a newer package in Utopic, *and* a major problem in the same package in Trusty, the Utopic package will be made available (with suitable patches if necessary) to Trusty
[22:32] <apeoid> I downloaded this pre-release software.  it's a folder with 4 folders inside, bin, help, lib, and license
[22:32] <apeoid> and in lib everything is in .jar
[22:32] <apeoid> what am I supposed to do
[22:33] <ikonia> apeoid: they are java apps
[22:33] <awesomess3> TJ-, what is Utopic?
[22:33] <apeoid> oooh
[22:33] <ikonia> apeoid: however if you don't know how to use them, I advise you not to use them
[22:33] <apeoid> ok
[22:33] <miko> OerHeks, than it simply says "vga=792 is depreciated"
[22:34] <miko> It does work for a second, though
[22:34] <TJ-> awesomess3: The next version of Ubuntu ... 14.10
[22:34] <miko> but then something in the ubuntu boot process switches graphic modes
[22:34] <awesomess3> TJ-, ooooooooohhh
[22:34] <miko> I can't read the messages, because they scroll too fast
[22:34] <miko> I think the last one starts with "[drm.........."
[22:35] <miko> after that the screen goes blank and the machine crashes
[22:35] <miko> oh, and adding nofb as kernel parameter changes nothing
[22:36] <zenkeku> I am having a moderate issue with Ubuntu 14.04. This is a relatively new installation with very little customization. When I attempt to suspend Ubuntu, it suspends and then after a few seconds it wakes back up. This includes when I close the lid. I can provide system information at request.
[22:36] <TJ-> miko: Have you tried removing "splash" and replacing with "text" (you may or may not need "nomodeset" too) ? That prevents the GUI from being started
[22:36] <TJ-> zenkeku: Can you pastebin "/var/log/kern.log" ?
[22:37] <zenkeku> TJ-: One moment.
[22:39] <zenkeku> TJ-: The output is rather large. Would you like me to filter the results?
[22:40] <zenkeku> TJ-: There are 12k lines.
[22:41] <TJ-> zenkeku: I'd like to see everything since the last time the system booted ... look for the last incidence of "... 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset"
[22:43] <zenkeku> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7806064/
[22:44] <miko> Ok, I added "text" as parameter
[22:44] <miko> It didn't work.
[22:44] <miko> I made a video with horrible quality
[22:44] <miko> http://a.pomf.se/ptvzag.3gp
[22:45] <miko> I doubt one can read anything, but maybe it gives someone a idea
[22:47] <miko> Can i read the logs somewhere, after I made a hard-reset?
[22:47] <schultza> I just had a problem with an update... Is this link an official link, cause I have a 404 not found error. E: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/miniupnpc/libminiupnpc8_1.6-3ubuntu2.14.04.1_amd64.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]
[22:48] <OerHeks> miko it says "gfxpayload=1024x768x8,1024x768"
[22:48] <OerHeks> * use gfxpayload ..
[22:48] <peter__> TJ-: My savior, my redeemer ;-)
[22:48] <TJ-> peter__: ?
[22:48] <TJ-> miko: OK, I could read that :)
[22:49] <peter__> TJ-: I'm running 3.16.0-031600rc5-generic #201407131735 and everything works fine
[22:49] <TJ-> miko: I think the issue is that GRUB - the boot-loader - is in graphical mode and leaves the system in that mode.
[22:49] <TJ-> peter__: Yay :)
[22:49] <schultza> works when i manually go get it... something wrong with apt-get?
[22:49] <schultza> nvmd.. its working now
[22:49] <schultza> sheesh
[22:49] <zenkeku> TJ-: I need to run to school. I'll be back online in 30 minutes. I'll do some reading in that time and let you know my results. I would be very pleased to have this issue resolved. Thanks for the help.
[22:49] <peter__> TJ-: Thanks you one more time for your time and interesting
[22:49] <peter__> interest*
[22:50] <peter__> concern? Anyhow, thx :)
[22:50] <TJ-> miko: So, what you should try is to edit "/etc/default/grub" and modify "#GRUB_TERMINAL=console" to remove the leading comment "#" character so it reads "GRUB_TERMINAL=console", save, and then do "sudo update-grub" and try a reboot.
[22:51] <miko> TJ-, I think grub in console mode
[22:51] <miko> the gfxpayload does as i understand it set some mode
[22:51] <miko> but that's IMO not the problem
[22:52] <miko> the problem is some component in the boot process later overrides it and sets another mode
[22:52] <TJ-> miko: I've had that exact issue in the past, and stopping the boot-loader from selecting a graphical mode has allowed the OS to keep the console on display
[22:56] <miko> well, it does not work
[22:57] <miko> I think i will order a usb-com port adapert so i can see the console over serial port on another pc.
[22:58] <miko> or is there a way to intentionally slowing down the boot process to make messages readable?
[22:58] <TJ-> miko: Hmm, does the PC have network?
[22:58] <TJ-> miko: If it has openssh-server installed, you can SSH to it
[22:59] <miko> TJ-, no because i don't have the network configured yet
[22:59] <TJ-> miko: chicken-and-egg!
[22:59] <miko> yes, wonderfull
[22:59] <TJ-> miko: OK, what happens if you start the system in Recovery mode?
[23:00] <TJ-> miko: From the GRUB Advanced sub-menu
[23:00] <kh3laghar-bracuc> Hello
[23:00] <miko> Well, that was recovery mode
[23:01] <TJ-> miko: You know when you see the kernel messages scrolling and they disappear? That is when the kernel does modesetting. If the kernel command-line has "nomodeset" on it, that shouldn't happen.
[23:01] <koell> Why does sudo apt-get update ignore some of the sources listed here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7806134/
[23:01] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm so frustrated. I'm out with my 14.04 laptop, and I can't connect to my vpn. no errors, I just can't find a way. I'm in xfce because my unity panel and launcher don't start. the network app in kde doesn't respond to any kind of clicking. there is no way in xfce to connect to a vpn (nothing in wicd, and nm-applet starts but doesn't show on screen). Any suggestions?\
[23:02] <TJ-> miko: It wasn't, unless you edited it. Recovery mode has the keyword "single" to put the system into runlevel 1 (single-user)
[23:02] <ikonia> Seven_Six_Two: sounds like you have a bad setup with 3 desktop enviornments installed
[23:03] <Seven_Six_Two> ikonia, care to define "bad setup"? 3 desktop environments doesn't make anything bad.
[23:03] <ObrienDave> Seven_Six_Two, i can connect to VPNbook in XFCE
[23:03] <miko> TJ-: Oh, seems i edited it out.
[23:03] <ikonia> Seven_Six_Two: it can certainly cause problems
[23:03] <miko> It does not work with single either
[23:03] <miko> it does not work with linuxrc=/bin/sh, too
[23:03] <miko> And, as you can see, there is a nomodeset in the parameters
[23:03] <Seven_Six_Two> ObrienDave, vpnbook? is that a subscription service? vpn server?
[23:04] <TJ-> miko: That is incorrect, to override the init you use "init=" e.g. "init=/bin/bash"
[23:04] <ObrienDave> free VPN service
[23:04] <Seven_Six_Two> ObrienDave, how do you do it?
[23:04] <ObrienDave> http://www.vpnbook.com/
[23:04] <TJ-> koell: The "InRelease" file is an alternative where the GPG signature is included. Ubuntu uses detached signature files so fetches the "Release" and "Release.gpg"
[23:04] <Seven_Six_Two> ObrienDave, I have a vpn set up that I've connected to, but all I can see is "network settings" which lists vpn, but doesn't give way to connect.
[23:05] <koell> TJ-: so there is nothing to worry about? is it the default "behaviour"?
[23:05] <TJ-> koell: nothing to worry about :)
[23:05] <miko> TJ-,  oh i thought that linuxrc was one stage earlier
[23:05] <TJ-> koell for more in-depth read https://wiki.debian.org/RepositoryFormat
[23:06] <miko> well, that doesn't work either.
[23:06] <koell> TJ-: does it look the same on your computer?
[23:07] <TJ-> miko: the boot sequence is BIOS/Firmware -> boot-loader (MBR/bootx64.efi) -> (core.img) -> /boot/grub/* -> /boot/vmlinux-$VERSION + /boot/initrd.img-$VERSION -> rootfs -> "/sbin/init"
[23:07] <TJ-> koell: It does
[23:07] <Seven_Six_Two> ObrienDave, what button do you click on? Can you show me a screenshot or something?
[23:07] <ObrienDave> let me look
[23:08] <miko> I thought that linuxrc was the "init" of the initrd
[23:08] <ObrienDave> VPNbook instructions are on the website
[23:08] <miko> I played around with that quite a bit,
[23:08] <miko> but that was 10 years ago
[23:09] <miko> *5
[23:09] <joakime> was there a sloppy-focus mouse change in 14.04's gnome-shell recently?
[23:09] <Seven_Six_Two> ObrienDave, I don't need instructions for the vpn service. I have a vpn service that I don't know how to connect to in xfce. I can't find a "connect to VPN" button.
[23:10] <TJ-> miko: In Debian/Ubuntu the initrd.img contains "/init" a shell script that does the early set-up before pivoting into the real read/write file-system and starting PID=1 (/sbin/init) which is from Upstart
[23:10] <Seven_Six_Two> I already have the certs set up in "network settings", so if I can just find the "enable" or "connect", I'll be golden.
[23:11] <koell> TJ-: thanks :)
[23:13] <ObrienDave> working on screenshot
[23:14] <TJ-> Seven_Six_Two: If the VPN is a separately configured connection, isn't there just a Connect option (maybe from a right-click context menu) ?
[23:14] <Seven_Six_Two> TJ-, no
[23:15] <Seven_Six_Two> TJ-, do you have a program in your menu called "network connections"? You can check it out.
[23:16] <TJ-> Seven_Six_Two: This "my unity panel and launcher don't start. the network app in kde doesn't respond to any kind of clicking" suggests there is corruption of the installed packages
[23:16] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I add subinterfaces to an Ubuntu server?
[23:16] <Seven_Six_Two> TJ-, which packages? And what leads you to that conclusion?
[23:17] <TJ-> Seven_Six_Two: I run several VPNs both from command-line and via a GUI applet, the backend being Network-Manager
[23:18] <Seven_Six_Two> TJ-, yes, I try to start nm-applet, which is how I would usually connect. But without a unity panel, I can't get at nm-applet. in xfce I don't see it either.
[23:18] <miko> Thanks everybody.
[23:18] <TJ-> Seven_Six_Two: For you to be experiencing random interface issues like that I'd start by running a memtest86+ at boot-time to check the RAM is OK, and then I'd probably do a "sudo apt-get --reinstall install ..." for many of the system's key packages
[23:19] <TJ-> Seven_Six_Two: From a terminal you can manage connections using "nmcli" ... try "nmcli con list"
[23:19] <Seven_Six_Two> TJ-, I could try that, but it's not random. it's every time.
[23:19] <Seven_Six_Two> I've never used nmcli, I'll check it out.
[23:19] <Seven_Six_Two> ObrienDave, any screenshots?
[23:20] <ObrienDave> http://i.imgur.com/7NWgr2M.png
[23:20] <ObrienDave> this is under Xubuntu
[23:23] <Seven_Six_Two> FYI my unity issue was a nvidia driver issue (just finished switching to 173 driver and reboot). now I can get vpn. thanks for everyone's time.
[23:24] <alarum> is it just me or is Unity more trouble than it's worth?
[23:25] <schultza> Fall: right now... i think it is. I'm im-/patiantly waiting for them to fix something in Unity.
[23:26] <ObrienDave> Unity is the reason i moved to Xubuntu
[23:26] <Fall> Xubuntu rocks
[23:27] <Seven_Six_Two> I like unity. I just wish nvidia would keep up.
[23:27] <TJ-> I had to switch to KDE, Unity can't cope with multi-monitors
[23:27] <schultza> Does it have a icon only taskbar (in configs if necessary) or do you still need to install a docky-like program still?
[23:27] <data> unity & flash drain my laptop battery in less than 30% of the normal time...
[23:27] <data> and don't get me started on the multimonitor thing ;)
[23:27] <Seven_Six_Two> TJ-, I use it with 2x22" monitors. It works well.
[23:28] <data> Seven_Six_Two: sometimes, and if they have the same resolution.
[23:28] <Seven_Six_Two> data, oh? I do have the exact same res...
[23:28] <TJ-> Seven_Six_Two: Try with 6 >HD1080 monitors
[23:28] <data> TJ-: I think anything over two?
[23:28] <data> but for me it's more the issue of high cpu usage
[23:29] <TJ-> My setup has 3 GPUs and 6 1920x1200 monitors... Unity just fails big-time for that
[23:29] <joakime> i use two 39" 1080 monitors and i agree with TJ-
[23:29] <data> and this is running on a haswell
[23:30] <Nickd55345353> hello
[23:30] <Nickd55345353> plz can someone help?
[23:31] <edition> with what?
[23:31] <jayis> can I get some resources for finding wireless dongles or adapters for 14.04?
[23:31] <Nickd55345353> how to install python
[23:31] <mgodzilla> xrpd from lubuntu 14.04 to windows 8 client.  get the gray screen everyone talk about.  this ain't workin':  http://ozkaya84.wordpress.com/2013/03/30/remote-desktop-to-linux-servers/
[23:31] <mgodzilla> any other thought or suggestions?
[23:31] <Nickd55345353> i downloaded the .xz file
[23:31] <ikonia> Nickd55345353: it's already installed
[23:31] <ikonia> Nickd55345353: python is a core part of ubuntu
[23:31] <pixelfairy> Nickd55345353: its already installed
[23:31] <ikonia> Nickd55345353: you don't need the tar file
[23:32] <Nickd55345353> i need the command line
[23:32] <Nickd55345353> so i ccan write
[23:32] <Nickd55345353> can*
[23:32] <pixelfairy> thats already installed too
[23:32] <ikonia> Nickd55345353: you already have the command line
[23:32] <jayis> type python
[23:32] <ikonia> Nickd55345353: open a terminal
[23:32] <edition> I suggest you read more documentation.
[23:32] <edition> Consult your manual pages from the terminal.
[23:32] <pixelfairy> Nickd55345353: the app is called Terminal
[23:32] <Nickd55345353> i know
[23:32] <edition> yes, but it can vary depending on your desktop
[23:32] <edition> ie: gnome-terminal
[23:32] <pixelfairy> just type python and youll be at the python prompt
[23:33] <Nickd55345353> i saw that
[23:33] <Nickd55345353> 2.7.6
[23:33] <Nickd55345353> ty
[23:33] <basiclaser> hello
[23:33] <pixelfairy> hi
[23:33] <jayis> ...so any wireless adapter recommendations?
[23:33] <ikonia> jayis: anything by intel
[23:33] <pixelfairy> jayis: what country?
[23:33] <jayis> united states
[23:33] <koell> Is there a fast way to edit a file on my local network without a lag?
[23:33] <pixelfairy> anything intel will work
[23:33] <ikonia> nothing else
[23:33] <jayis> ikonia: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106135
[23:33] <ikonia> koell: you should not have any lag
[23:34] <pixelfairy> otherwise just order from amazon or newegg. they take stuff back
[23:34] <koell> ikonia: even on wireless?
[23:34] <jayis> ikonia: why is intel the only option?
[23:34] <ikonia> koell: correct
[23:34] <ikonia> jayis: because they have solid support in linux
[23:34] <pixelfairy> not the only, but the best
[23:34] <jayis> okay cool
[23:34] <basiclaser> can i upgrade from 32bit ubuntu 14.04 to 64bit ubuntu 14.04 whilst leaving my filesystem and its content intact? i dont want to have to reinstall all my softwarez :)
[23:34] <pixelfairy> anything is a guessing game
[23:34] <koell> ikonia: but it is still slower than editing the file on the machine itself =(
[23:34] <ikonia> koell: then fix your network
[23:35] <ikonia> basiclaser: no
[23:35] <TJ-> jayis: Does this help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[23:35] <pixelfairy> what command runs when you login that give you the motd and tell you if any packages need to be updated?
[23:35] <TJ-> pixelfairy: pam_motd
[23:36] <basiclaser> ikonia: does upgrading remove software then?
[23:36] <jayis> TJ-: it probably does, thank you :)
[23:36] <ikonia> basiclaser: you can't upgrade to 64bit
[23:36] <pixelfairy> TJ-: is there a way to run that again as a user?
[23:36] <TJ-> pixelfairy: see "man update-motd"
[23:36] <pixelfairy> im using pxssh and would rather not revert to pexpect
[23:38] <pixelfairy> TJ-: ty exactly what i wanted
[23:38] <basiclaser> ikonia: why not?
[23:38] <ikonia> basiclaser: because it's basically replacing the whole system
[23:38] <kgr> hello
[23:38] <ikonia> basiclaser: you need to do a clean install
[23:38] <basiclaser> arg.. ok.. so backup stuffs and start again :) gotcha
[23:39] <TJ-> basiclaser: It is possible to use 64-bit kernels with the existing 32-bit userspace, and if you want a 64-bit userspace create it in a chroot
[23:39] <kgr> how to set compiz as default on xubuntu please
[23:39] <kgr> ???
[23:39] <friendlyfascism> kgr, Why would you?
[23:41] <basiclaser> TJ-: thanks, i only wanted to run a single 64 bit program, is it more complicated than just reinstalling though?
[23:41] <Foxhoundz> Ubuntu. I need help.
[23:42] <ObrienDave> !ask | Foxhoundz
[23:42] <Foxhoundz> How do I configure my WiFi to auto-connect at startup
[23:42] <Foxhoundz> BEFORE login
[23:42] <Foxhoundz> so I can get internet access when I ssh into my headless server
[23:42] <Foxhoundz> !ask | ObrienDave
[23:42] <Foxhoundz> oh
[23:42] <Foxhoundz> one line. I didn't bother to read that part. Sorry about that.
[23:43] <TJ-> basiclaser: about the same I think
[23:43] <Foxhoundz> Anyway, my question is as stated. I'm trying to configure my WiFi to auto connect at boot/hibernation
[23:43] <ObrienDave> no biggie, i was too quick on the !ask :)
[23:43] <pixelfairy> Foxhoundz: man interfaces
[23:43] <pixelfairy> you can set it all in there
[23:43] <ikonia> how is "interfaces" going to tell him how to use the desktop network manager apps
[23:44] <Foxhoundz> Remember, this isn't for GUI use. I primiarly use Ubuntu for HTTP server and Weecha
[23:44] <Foxhoundz> weechat*, so I need it to connect 24/7 and not hiberate on me
[23:44] <pixelfairy> http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-add-wireless-lan-adaptor-static-ip-ubuntu-auto-connects-startup
[23:45] <Foxhoundz> now, will this disable the network-manager GUI from working?
[23:45] <Loshki> Foxhoundz: I thought you meant there was a Ouija app...
[23:46] <Foxhoundz> Loshki: wrong guy.
[23:46] <Foxhoundz> Try tabbing twice.
[23:46] <pixelfairy> Foxhoundz: it will make network manager skip your wifi interface
[23:46] <Foxhoundz> oh
[23:46] <Foxhoundz> I see
[23:46] <Foxhoundz> this is reversible, I presume?
[23:46] <TJ-> Foxhoundz: If it is using NetworkManager, you can configure a connection with "autoconnect" to have it brought up as soon as networking is available.
[23:46] <Foxhoundz> Because I DO sometimes connect my TV to this headless server to use XBMC
[23:46] <Foxhoundz> TJ-: I noticed network manager only connects when I first login through the GUI
[23:46] <pixelfairy> Foxhoundz: if you can get a gui on it, setting it up in network manager as static is easier
[23:47] <TJ-> Foxhoundz: "man 5 nm-settings" and see "Table 8. connection setting"
[23:47] <Valsimot> Hello everyone, new ubuntu user here... I made a dual boot with Windows 7, or so I thought. After the restart, grub didn't give me the option to choose the OS anymore. Here's what boot-repair gave me http://paste.ubuntu.com/7806268/ It looks like everything's still there, but I'm not sure if I should simply hit "recommended repair"
[23:47] <TJ-> Foxhoundz: Network Manager is a service running as soon as the network interfaces start
[23:48] <TJ-> Foxhoundz: Usually the system connections aren't activated unless commanded, which on GUI/Desktop systems occurs when user's log-in
[23:48] <Foxhoundz> TJ-: I see. how can I have this happen before logon
[23:48] <Nickd55345353> is blender good?
[23:48] <Foxhoundz> at the earliest possible time
[23:48] <pixelfairy> probably easier to just use interfaces
[23:48] <kostkon> Foxhoundz, make the connection available to all users in network manager's settings for that connection
[23:48] <pixelfairy> Nickd55345353: blender is awsome if you get over the UI hump, which just takes a little while
[23:48] <TJ-> Foxhoundz: But you can edit the connection info (in "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/") adding any valid settings, including "autoconnect"
[23:49] <Foxhoundz> I see
[23:49] <pixelfairy> Nickd55345353: theres a #blender channel they're very friendly
[23:49] <Nickd55345353> they  told me that it is best in its category
[23:49] <Nickd55345353> so i wanted to know if its safe
[23:49] <Nickd55345353> and good
[23:49] <pixelfairy> Its the best at blending different media types together
[23:49] <pixelfairy> and creating most of them
[23:50] <pixelfairy> its totally worth the time to learn it
[23:50] <pixelfairy> and if you really need to branch off to maya or nuke, those will be easier to learn after blender anyway
[23:51] <Vyse007> Guys, if I update my 13.10 system regularly, do I still need to 'upgrade' to 14.04? The updates update the kernel as well, right? So does upgrading offer any advantages over simply updating?
[23:52] <ikonia> yes
[23:52] <ikonia> 13.10 is EOL so there are no more updates for it
[23:53] <Vyse007> So for example, whenever my current version reaches its EOL, its repository will no longer contain updates for the installed software?
[23:54] <ikonia> correct
[23:54] <ikonia> the repo will not change at all any more
[23:54] <ikonia> and the repo will be taken down totally at some point
[23:55] <OerHeks> Support 13.10 ended on July 17th, 2014 ... today
[23:55] <linuxlite> hello
[23:56] <bigcat> hello
[23:56] <Vyse007> But if all software is updated at the time of the repo being taken down, can't one simply switch to the repos for the newer version? After all, all software, including the kernel itself, would be same as that of the newer base system at that point..
[23:56] <ikonia> Vyse007: no
[23:56] <bigcat> is this a channel for noobs and pros alike?
[23:56] <ikonia> bigcat: any ubuntu help you need
[23:56] <OerHeks> Vyse007, why not 'simply' upgrade ?
[23:56] <kostkon> Vyse007, upgrade to 14.04 and you'll get 5 years of support. support for 13.10 was for a mere 9 months
[23:57] <Vyse007> I have upgraded, I just can't wrap my head around this concept.
[23:57] <ikonia> Vyse007: what version of ubuntu are you currently running ?
[23:57] <linuxlite> i have a questio
[23:57] <bigcat> ikonia, awesome
[23:58] <Vyse007> I don't even use Ubuntu at my personal computer, I use Arch. But all the computers in my lab just upgraded to 14.04. I was simply wondering why this necessity arises.
[23:58] <linuxlite> i have 12.04 what happens when i update?does it becomes  version 13?
[23:58] <ikonia> Vyse007: that's why then
[23:58] <ikonia> Vyse007: once the distro is EOL, the repo is dead
[23:58] <ikonia> linuxlite: it will update to 14.04
[23:59] <basiclaser> TJ-: sorry to be a bother.. could you forward me anything related to setting up a 64bit environment within a 32bit install? I couldnt seem to find anything
[23:59] <ikonia> linuxlite: when 14.04.1 is released, your 12.04 box will offer you an upgrade to 14.04.1
[23:59] <OerHeks> basiclaser, there is no such thing
[23:59] <TJ-> Vyse007: Each 6-month release of Ubuntu is effectively frozen in terms of the archives packages major-versions. Minor version updates are done to fix bugs and security issues. When development on a new release begins, newer upstream packages are generally imported and Debian/Ubuntu specific patches applied. After the Feature-Freeze point (a month or so before release) no new features (upstream major versions) can be added, only bug-fixing
[23:59] <MonkeyDust> Vyse007  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4653463/ubuntu_release_schedule.jpg
[23:59] <linuxlite> thanks for clearing this up for me