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bluesabreNoskcaj: wanna subscribe me to packages you need uploaded? L)01:26
bluesabre:)01:26
Unit193bluesabre: Are you aware of how to get the packages in -extras included in the packageset?04:59
elfyochosi: pkexec wiki - added mousepad to the list, added policy files for all 3 - can never work out how to format code - so I didn't ;)06:31
ochosielfy: oh nice06:32
ochosithat is both good and bad :)06:32
elfyheh06:32
ochosilet's not add the policy files directly into the page plz06:32
ochosiotherwise it'll become quite unaccessible06:32
ochosifile-attachments work just fine06:32
elfyI've no idea how to do that, not sure I've got the patience for it either with the ubuntu wiki06:33
ochosiwell you have the files locally, no?06:33
ochosithen simply go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Utopic/Pkexec?action=AttachFile06:34
ochosiand add them06:34
elfyif I remember this evening I'll do it then06:34
ochosielfy: alrighty, i'll blame you if the wiki is spammed with inline policy-files ;)06:47
elfyI deleted it06:47
elfytried to do it - as I suspected with the ubuntu wiki nothing is simple06:58
elfytbh I would rather dig my eyes out with a spoon than try and work with the wiki06:59
Unit193That's why some of us have setup our own wiki. :P07:10
ochosihehe07:19
ochosiit's not like i haven't been opposing the wiki :)07:20
ochosithe main reason we're still using it is to have everything in one place07:20
elfyI thought the main reason was to keep the person who thought it a great idea to use what we use feeling good about themselves07:22
elfymoinmoin that is 07:22
elfyso anyway - added the attachments but get "Current configuration does not allow embedding of the file Thunar because of its mimetype application/octet-stream.: Thunar"07:23
elfynot playing anymore 07:23
ochosii see, that sucks a bit07:24
ochosithen let's just put them on a separate page inline07:24
ochosiand link to that page07:24
elfyI guess07:25
elfycya this afternoon/evening now :)07:25
ochosiseeya elfy :)07:25
ochosithanks for wrestling with the wiki ;)07:26
elfylol07:26
bluesabreUnit193: nope, but I am going to try to become familiar with that this weekend09:34
bluesabrealso, for any interested, I have my vacation next week, so I will either by much more or much less available09:35
ochosi:)09:36
ochosihey bluesabre 09:36
bluesabrehey ochosi09:37
* ochosi is currently following up the xdg-utils MR to give it a chance to end up in 14.04.109:37
bluesabregreat09:37
bluesabrelooks like the greeter and menulibre finally found their way to -proposed09:37
ochosiwanna help me with the sru paperwork? (didrocks is already sponsoring)09:38
ochosiyeah, saw that today and then felt motivated to do xdg-utils ;)09:38
bluesabreI can review it for you as needed09:38
bluesabretrying to get a few other things uploaded this morning09:39
ochosito utopic?09:39
bluesabreand trusty-proposed09:39
bluesabreochosi: just saw your xdg-utils get accepted for utopic09:44
ochosiyup09:44
ochosididrocks helped me do my first debian patch09:44
bluesabrecongrats :)09:44
ochosiheh, the little things ;)09:44
ochosibluesabre: how did you get all the info added below "ProblemType: Bug" ?09:48
bluesabrehm?09:48
ochosior well, maybe that's not needed at all...09:48
ochosibluesabre: review plz https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/134263409:51
ubottuUbuntu bug 1342634 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "[SRU] xdg-screensaver should control X11's screensaver in Xfce as fallback" [Undecided,New]09:51
ochosii'm surei forgot something (apart from subscribing the sru team ;))09:52
bluesabreShort and sweet09:53
ochosiwell i try not to ramble ;)09:53
bluesabreI do that too often09:54
bluesabreemails take a while for me to write :D09:54
ochosiespecially as it doesn't help with getting things fixed quickly09:54
ochosihehe09:54
ochosiso, any tags i need to add?09:54
ochosior anything?09:54
bluesabreshould be fine, maybe have somebody nominate that bug for the Trusty release09:55
ochosido i really need to provide a debdiff now?09:55
ochosiand how/where do i reference the release of xdg-utils that fixes the problem :)09:56
bluesabreit's generally preferred, unless didrocks is going to handle it entirely09:56
ochosiwell i can ping him again and see...09:56
bluesabreYou can just add a patch to the current release in trusty09:57
ochosierr, how?09:57
bluesabreand change the debian version from 1.1.0~rc1-2ubuntu7 to 1.1.0~rc1-2ubuntu809:58
bluesabreyou get to have fun :D09:58
ochosi:/09:58
bluesabreapt-get source xdg-utils09:58
* ochosi has already had my share of fun today09:58
ochosis/my/his/09:58
bluesabrehttps://wiki.debian.org/UsingQuilt09:59
ochosii've already added a patch09:59
bluesabreSee "Making a new patch"09:59
ochosiit's not an inline change anymore09:59
bluesabreah10:00
ochosi11:44  ochosi$ didrocks helped me do my first debian patch10:00
bluesabreok, just checked the version number10:00
ochosi:D10:00
bluesabreso xdg-utils is the same in trusty and utopic10:00
ochosiyup10:00
ochosior: was10:00
bluesabreso you have your patch, and assuming you've created your .dsc/source.changes file from debuild or dpkg?10:01
ochosii haven't done any of that :)10:01
bluesabreok10:01
ochosii basically followed this guide: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/patches-to-packages.html10:01
bluesabrebut you have your source directory, and an updated debian changelog?10:01
ochosiyup10:02
bluesabrego into the source directory10:02
bluesabredebuild -S -sa10:02
bluesabreer10:02
bluesabreprobably -S10:02
bluesabrethis will generate the files in the parent directory10:02
ochosiboth ask me the same: http://dpaste.com/3CG21V410:03
ochosiobviously i still have "unreleased" as version10:03
bluesabrego to the parent directory and do 'apt-get source xdg-utils' to grab the tarballs10:04
ochosiok10:04
ochosii'm still on trusty, so that'd be 1.1.0...ubuntu710:05
bluesabreyup10:05
bluesabresource tarball is the same10:06
bluesabredebian is what changed10:06
bluesabreyou're just building the package10:06
ochosidebsign: gpg error occurred!  Aborting....10:07
bluesabreah10:08
bluesabredefined DEBFULLNAME and DEBEMAIL in .bashrc?10:08
bluesabre~/.bashrc10:08
ochosigah, sorry, i have to get back to work, this is getting too much for now10:09
bluesabrehttp://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/getting-set-up.html10:09
bluesabre(for reference)10:09
ochosiplus i really don't wanna get set up with packaging :)10:10
bluesabreif you don't have any luck, I'll help with it this evening, just pack your debian directory and mail it to me10:11
ochosiotherwise all the other things don't get done anymore10:11
ochosiactually all i have here is already in bzr10:11
ochosiin https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/xdg-utils/support_xfce10:11
ochosibut also in https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/utopic/xdg-utils/utopic10:11
bluesabreah10:13
bluesabrethat makes it easier10:13
bluesabrebzr branch lp:ubuntu/xdg-utils10:14
bluesabreedit d/changelog to trusty (dch -r)10:14
bluesabrebzr commit10:16
bluesabrebzr push lp:~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu/trusty/xdg-utils/support_xfce10:16
bluesabrethen link that to the bug report10:16
bluesabreand see if that's sufficient for didrocks10:16
bluesabreor really, just check with him in general10:17
bluesabrehe probably just wants the paperwork10:17
ochosimkay, let's see10:19
bluesabreochosi: do you know if lubuntu is still using xfce4-power-manager for 14.10?10:31
bluesabresince we dropped the tray icon and replaced it with a panel plugin, 1.3 might be less than desirable for them10:32
bluesabrecan you reach out to them before I merge https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/133418510:32
ubottuUbuntu bug 1334185 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Please merge 1.3.0-1 from debian" [Undecided,New]10:32
bluesabreat the very least, they can enable indicator-power in its stead, but we should consult with them10:33
ochosialready done all that10:34
ochosithing is that indicator-power doesn't work for them because it's gtk3 only10:34
ochosiand lubuntu's panel is gtk210:34
ochosibe that as it may, we added a lxde panel plugin10:35
ochosithat'll get released with the next 1.3 dev release10:35
ochosi(which we're working towards)10:35
ochosibut yeah, gilir already knows about all of this, because – to answer your first question – they'll most likely stick with their gtk desktop for 14.10, hence also with powerman10:35
bluesabregreat, thanks10:36
bluesabreI'll merge that this evening then :)10:37
ochosiyeah, although 1.3.0 doesn't have a high priority for me10:37
ochosiwhile it enables us to drop all patches, the next release will actually be a lot better (bringing blanking support etc)10:37
bluesabreI see10:37
bluesabrewill that be 1.3.1 or 1.4?10:38
ochosi1.3.1, 1.4 is the next stable10:38
bluesabregot it10:38
ochosiNoskcaj is already on our necks to get that out (for debian and upower1.0 support)10:38
bluesabreright10:38
ochosibut yeah, we still need to wrap up a few things10:39
bluesabrecool, I'll leave you to that then ;)10:40
bluesabregoing to go beat myself up at the gym, be back this evening10:40
ochosiheh, hf then10:43
brainwashuhm what.. "Set default icon size to 32."11:15
brainwashwhy is it back to 32?11:15
brainwashdid people complain about the bigger desktop icons in trusty or upstream?11:16
ochosiNoskcaj, Unit193 or bluesabre: whoever of you gets to it first, could you help with providing a debdiff for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker/+bug/130974412:00
ubottuUbuntu bug 1309744 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Light Locker blanks the screen when playing video" [Undecided,Confirmed]12:00
ochosithe paperwork is generally fine, i asked for nomination for trusty in #ubuntu-bugs12:00
ochosiUnit193?21:34
Unit193ochosi: I don't remember saying anything that'd make you question.21:34
ochosiwell actually I asked something :)21:35
ochosii wanted to ask you for help on the xdg-utils debdiff21:35
ochosiNoskcaj: and since you seem to be around too, could you please nominate the bug for trusty? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker/+bug/130974421:36
ubottuUbuntu bug 1309744 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Light Locker blanks the screen when playing video" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:36
Unit193ochosi: You had a merge proposal already, did you not?  I looked, seemed you picked number 2 of the 3 ways to get an upload.21:38
Noskcajsure21:38
ochosiUnit193: it's in utopic already, but we need a SRU to trusty21:38
ochosii'd like it to make it for 14.04.121:39
Unit193Ahh.21:39
ochosiso i need a debdiff21:39
Noskcajfyi, i'm never around 1200UTC-2000UTC, so i didn't see the earlier ping21:39
ochosiafter we have the debdiff and it's nominated, we can subscribe the sru team21:39
ochosiNoskcaj: i knew that, but wasn't sure when i'd be around, so i thought i'd ping you as well and whoever would see it first...21:39
Noskcajok21:40
Unit193Noskcaj: Don't read backlog?  Or at least pings in backlog?21:40
NoskcajUnit193, I sometime do, but hexchat doesn't show what channel the ping came from when you first login, so if i find one from somewhere else, i assume it's the only one21:41
Noskcaj*sometimes21:41
ochosiwow, better get a better irc client then21:41
ochosi;)21:41
Unit193Hah. :D21:43
Unit193I just strip highlights from ochosi, else I read 'em. ;)21:43
ochosiplease ping me though when it's done21:46
ochosithing is that we're running out of time and it might already be too late for that fix to land21:47
ochosias the bug sucks big time though, it'd be nice to get it ironed out before .121:47
Unit193ochosi: http://paste.openstack.org/show/qUGzmzyKeKLgyu5ttu8k/ Something simple like that? 0_o21:52
ochosii guess it should be pretty simple as the patch is a one-liner21:54
ochosiwhether it's a valid debdiff i can't tell21:54
ochosiif i could do this myself, i wouldn't ask ;)21:54
Unit193ochosi: You should be able to, why not?21:55
ochosiwell first of all i really don't know the first thing about packaging21:59
ochosiand i think division of tasks makes sense21:59
ochosiwhy should i ask you to draw an icon?21:59
Unit193ochosi: I can do that!  It'll look ugly as heck though. :D21:59
ochosiofc i could describe every step here on irc and you could follow it and then maybe in the end we have an icon21:59
ochosiso anyway, i presume you get where i'm going with this22:00
Unit193ochosi: Sure, I'm not saying you should, just that it's very easy if you wanted to.  I can attach that paste if you want.22:00
ochosiactually i did try today @work, but something with my gpg key setup is borked there22:00
ochosiand then i investigated for a bit and then decided it really isn22:00
ochosi't worth it22:00
ochosii'd rather fix a bug in xfpm so we get closer to the release22:01
ochosiNoskcaj: humm, just for my understanding of the procedure, why is the light-locker aspect of the bug (which is totally invalid) also nominated? or does that happen automatically?22:01
Noskcajautomatic22:02
ochosia-ha22:02
ochosifine then22:02
ochosiUnit193: please attach the debdiff and then, if you can, subscribe the sru team and then we wait until "tomorrow"22:02
ochosithen i'll do the "fun part" and go pinging ppl for help again22:02
NoskcajShould we just drop light-locker as an affected package, since invalid is normally for when the entire bug is invalid22:03
Unit193ochosi: Done.22:07
ochosiNoskcaj: yes, please go ahead and do that22:08
ochosiUnit193: thanks a bunch!22:08
* ochosi just pushed another patch to xfpm22:08
Unit193Bah, need to look at Xfce's commits again, silly Nick.22:20
ochosihm?22:20
ochosiUnit193: silly nick what?22:25
Unit193ochosi: I review commits in git.xfce, and see if there's anything I want.  Would make it easier if I'd just have to read scrollback, filtered languages of course.22:26
ochosiyeah, the translation-commits suck a bit22:28
Unit193So, I should poke him on IRC next time I see him, I suppose. :/22:30
ochosiiirc someone suggested filtering out translations a while ago22:31
ochosi(on the ml, so you can search for the discussion on xfce's git setup)22:31
Unit193Right, I setup the IRC announce with filtered out translations.22:32
ochosiin what channel though?22:33
Unit193#xfce-dev of course.22:33
ochosiright, why not #xfce-commits?22:33
ochosiwell i guess actually xfce-dev would work fine just as well...22:33
Unit193The channel wouldn't get that much output. ;)22:33
Unit193But, that's detail.22:34
ochosiyeah, i know it wouldn't22:35
ochosibut at least in commits you can just add it without anybody being bothered and without having to ask22:36
ochosiif ppl like it, you can add it in -dev too22:36
Unit193I can't do anything though, it needs to be someone with access to the server.22:38
ochosioh right, i forgot22:38
Unit193:)22:38
Unit193It's still in: https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/irker/22:43
Unit193Ah crap, didn't want to link that to here.22:43
ochosioh no, now it's out!22:44
ochosi:p22:44
ochosiLogan_: in case you're around, would you mind to upload this to trusty proposed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker/+bug/130974422:53
ubottuUbuntu bug 1309744 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Light Locker blanks the screen when playing video" [Undecided,Triaged]22:53
ochositime to get some sleep, night everyone22:56
Unit193G'night.22:57
ali1234Unit193: i just subscribed to the commit ml and made a gmail filter to filter out translations23:20

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