| xfrozty | Hey, can someone help me get my touchpad setup? | 04:16 |
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| xfrozty | apparently I have the drivers but when I run synclient I get: Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded? | 04:16 |
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| rafaellaguna | suncokret, I was looking for you | 11:49 |
| suncokret | hello | 11:50 |
| suncokret | i am here | 11:50 |
| suncokret | :) | 11:50 |
| suncokret | what's new? | 11:50 |
| rafaellaguna | I figured out what problem was, a few minutes after we disconnected | 11:50 |
| rafaellaguna | I feel stupid :| | 11:50 |
| rafaellaguna | there's no bug at all | 11:51 |
| rafaellaguna | since a few releases, synaptic is a GTK3 app. Crux is a GTK2 theme with no support for GTK3 widgets. That's the problem. It's a very very old theme, unmaintained. | 11:52 |
| suncokret | so which theme is gtk3 | 11:53 |
| suncokret | ? | 11:53 |
| rafaellaguna | many, ambiance, radiance, Lubuntu Box ;) , Zuki, Elementary, etc... | 11:53 |
| suncokret | is any of them instaled with system or i need to download them? | 11:54 |
| rafaellaguna | you have to install light-themes (these are ubuntu themes), or use the Lubuntu ones (already installed if you have Lubuntu, abviously) | 11:55 |
| rafaellaguna | but you can download more, at www.gnome-look.org be sure to look for GTK3 themes only | 11:55 |
| rafaellaguna | Crux is still there for compatibility, but there's no reason to exist anymore if new apps cannot use it | 11:55 |
| suncokret | and why all other applications under root didn't accept colors? | 11:56 |
| suncokret | all are GTK? | 11:56 |
| suncokret | all are GTK3? | 11:56 |
| suncokret | for example | 11:56 |
| suncokret | grub customizer | 11:56 |
| suncokret | gufw | 11:56 |
| rafaellaguna | maybe because the user colors are meant to be used only for that user | 11:56 |
| suncokret | i will try with other theme | 11:56 |
| rafaellaguna | yes, every app started as root (even using "gksudo pcmanfm" will become root) | 11:56 |
| suncokret | and see will this work | 11:57 |
| rafaellaguna | yes, try, there're plenty nice GTK3 theems out there. of course I recommend use Lubuntu, maybe because I did it :D | 11:57 |
| suncokret | you mean | 11:58 |
| suncokret | lubuntu default theme? | 11:58 |
| rafaellaguna | yup | 11:58 |
| suncokret | some themes don't alow to change custom colors | 11:58 |
| suncokret | i hope that most of GTK3 themes aloww that | 11:58 |
| suncokret | allow | 11:58 |
| suncokret | :) | 11:58 |
| suncokret | i am not in lubuntu now | 11:59 |
| suncokret | and i have installed 13.04 | 11:59 |
| rafaellaguna | if you want to keep it updated (GTK3 and icons too) use the instructions provided here: http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/p/artwork.html | 12:00 |
| suncokret | i have to return position of lubuntu 14.04 | 12:00 |
| suncokret | so | 12:00 |
| rafaellaguna | it doesn't matter | 12:00 |
| suncokret | can you try to use some gtk3 theme | 12:00 |
| ikonia | is the lubuntu PPC port maintained by the core/same team as the x86 version or sperate people | 12:00 |
| rafaellaguna | and remember, colorization isn't a theme feature, it's a desktop feature, Ubuntu does not colorize, Lubuntu does | 12:00 |
| suncokret | and change background color in theme | 12:00 |
| suncokret | and then try to run synaptic | 12:01 |
| suncokret | can you try that now | 12:01 |
| suncokret | use some gtk3 theme | 12:01 |
| rafaellaguna | yes :) | 12:01 |
| rafaellaguna | I'm using Lubuntu default theme now in MATE, and Synaptic uses it | 12:01 |
| suncokret | you have MATE on Lubuntu? | 12:02 |
| rafaellaguna | confirmed | 12:02 |
| rafaellaguna | yes, I'm testing it, I have lots of desktops :D | 12:02 |
| suncokret | i was tried too | 12:02 |
| suncokret | xfce | 12:02 |
| rafaellaguna | openbox, windowmaker, xfce, lxqt, etc. | 12:02 |
| suncokret | cinnamon, it is very slow | 12:02 |
| suncokret | and | 12:02 |
| rafaellaguna | I need them to test my themes | 12:02 |
| suncokret | can you change to LXDE | 12:02 |
| rafaellaguna | cinnamon and gnome3 are really slow on old computers | 12:02 |
| suncokret | and then try | 12:02 |
| suncokret | to run synaptic | 12:03 |
| suncokret | because | 12:03 |
| suncokret | i was instal xfce on lubuntu 13.04 | 12:03 |
| suncokret | and synaptic didn't acept selected themes | 12:03 |
| suncokret | and in LXDE it accept | 12:03 |
| rafaellaguna | trust me, install lubuntu-artwork package and it will work on root apps too | 12:03 |
| rafaellaguna | because it's installed in /usr/share/themes | 12:04 |
| suncokret | can i find that in synaptic? | 12:04 |
| rafaellaguna | yes | 12:04 |
| suncokret | i will try | 12:04 |
| rafaellaguna | lubuntu-artwork | 12:04 |
| suncokret | and | 12:05 |
| suncokret | is there something similar | 12:05 |
| suncokret | for xfce? | 12:05 |
| suncokret | in synaptic? | 12:05 |
| rafaellaguna | xubuntu has shimmer-themes, gtk3 too | 12:05 |
| suncokret | i will try | 12:06 |
| rafaellaguna | ok, enjoy! | 12:06 |
| suncokret | thank you | 12:07 |
| rafaellaguna | you're welcome ;) | 12:07 |
| suncokret | i'll be back to tell you results | 12:07 |
| rafaellaguna | fine, tell me | 12:07 |
| suncokret | i have just one partition for linux | 12:07 |
| suncokret | and i have dual boot with xp | 12:07 |
| rafaellaguna | don't you have a partition for your home? | 12:08 |
| suncokret | and i use clonezilla, or norton ghost | 12:08 |
| rafaellaguna | gparted works better and doesn't erase data | 12:08 |
| suncokret | for backup position of instaled and configured system | 12:08 |
| suncokret | i use it for backup | 12:08 |
| suncokret | partition to image | 12:08 |
| suncokret | :) | 12:08 |
| suncokret | no, i home is on \ | 12:09 |
| rafaellaguna | I have en external disc for that | 12:09 |
| rafaellaguna | for backups I mean | 12:09 |
| suncokret | no, home is on \ | 12:09 |
| rafaellaguna | it's safer to have a separate home partition, if you need rto reinstall and format Linux | 12:09 |
| suncokret | i know | 12:09 |
| suncokret | but i copied some directories from home .config | 12:10 |
| suncokret | with configurations from programs | 12:10 |
| suncokret | :) | 12:10 |
| suncokret | so i have that | 12:10 |
| rafaellaguna | too much work :D | 12:10 |
| suncokret | no | 12:10 |
| suncokret | i don't use much programs | 12:11 |
| rafaellaguna | I just clone my partition to the USB disc | 12:11 |
| suncokret | i have now backup images from Lubuntu 13.04 and 14.04 | 12:15 |
| suncokret | i save it on other partition | 12:15 |
| rafaellaguna | so you can install 14.04 on top :) | 12:15 |
| suncokret | now i have on linux partition 13.04 | 12:16 |
| suncokret | and i can delete it | 12:16 |
| rafaellaguna | right | 12:17 |
| suncokret | and change to 14.04 | 12:17 |
| suncokret | for about 3 minutes | 12:17 |
| suncokret | :) | 12:17 |
| rafaellaguna | I recommend you 14.04, really, it's an improved system | 12:17 |
| suncokret | if i solve this with colors i will use 14.04 | 12:19 |
| rafaellaguna | I'm not sure about colors, but it's not so important to colorize root apps, but they must use your theme, even in standard colour mode | 12:20 |
| rafaellaguna | another solution is changing the root theme, using "gksudo lxappearance" | 12:20 |
| suncokret | no | 12:20 |
| rafaellaguna | then you can colorize it too | 12:20 |
| suncokret | i tried that | 12:20 |
| suncokret | and when you type | 12:20 |
| suncokret | "gksudo lxappearance" | 12:20 |
| suncokret | system block | 12:20 |
| suncokret | and you can only restart it | 12:21 |
| suncokret | with restart taster | 12:21 |
| suncokret | :) | 12:21 |
| suncokret | that is bug | 12:21 |
| rafaellaguna | not for me, I'm testing right now | 12:21 |
| rafaellaguna | it works fine | 12:21 |
| suncokret | i was try that on LXDE on lubuntu 14.04 | 12:22 |
| suncokret | and system was blocked | 12:22 |
| suncokret | :) | 12:22 |
| suncokret | then | 12:22 |
| rafaellaguna | O_o | 12:22 |
| suncokret | i was try | 12:22 |
| suncokret | to login in openbox | 12:22 |
| suncokret | and then i use "gksudo lxappearance" | 12:23 |
| suncokret | and i change colors | 12:23 |
| suncokret | but synaptic didn't accept them | 12:23 |
| suncokret | . | 12:23 |
| koell | is there an alternative gtk2/openbox theme for lubuntu? i need to see something differen :D | 12:23 |
| rafaellaguna | www.gnome-look.org :) | 12:23 |
| rafaellaguna | gtk2? what for? | 12:23 |
| koell | they dont look that good like the default one =( | 12:23 |
| koell | i dont know if i can take them seriously xD | 12:24 |
| rafaellaguna | Lubuntu theme is not "serious"? | 12:24 |
| koell | lubuntu ones itself is SERIOUS but not those on gnome look | 12:24 |
| rafaellaguna | try zukitwo, shimmer-themes or elementary, they're nice theme | 12:25 |
| koell | okey thanks | 12:25 |
| rafaellaguna | you're welcome | 12:25 |
| koell | but it is hard to find an overall good looking theme with icons and all that stuff xD | 12:26 |
| suncokret | i go to try... i'll be back | 12:26 |
| suncokret | thank you for help | 12:26 |
| rafaellaguna | my pleasure :) | 12:27 |
| koell | hey phillw :) | 12:27 |
| koell | i just cant find one that is nearly as good as lubuntu-default :D | 12:27 |
| koell | i may just adjust the colors :D | 12:27 |
| rafaellaguna | thanks :) | 12:28 |
| koell | rafaellaguna: O_o? | 12:28 |
| rafaellaguna | I made Lubuntu theme :D | 12:29 |
| koell | ohhhh yeah!!! \o/ | 12:29 |
| koell | i like the one really | 12:29 |
| rafaellaguna | that's why I thank you :D | 12:29 |
| koell | but what i most like is, it looks good all together, colors, icons, theme etc | 12:29 |
| rafaellaguna | it's being accepted very well | 12:29 |
| rafaellaguna | yes, I tried to make eye pleasant and homogeneous, nothing disturbing | 12:30 |
| koell | i like the new white background since 14.04 | 12:30 |
| koell | i guess it was gray before? | 12:30 |
| rafaellaguna | yes, it matches new Ubuntu themes, but I think it suits better with our colours | 12:30 |
| koell | i dont like ubuntu thems :D | 12:30 |
| rafaellaguna | even better with a shadow under the windows, using compton | 12:31 |
| rafaellaguna | I do, but I like this better | 12:31 |
| koell | lubuntu theme look really good with i3wm | 12:32 |
| rafaellaguna | really? I didn't tested that DE | 12:32 |
| koell | do you know how to change the background color of pcmanfm sidebar? | 12:32 |
| rafaellaguna | to-do note ;) | 12:32 |
| rafaellaguna | you can't, it's in the code of the theme. only changing the theme | 12:33 |
| koell | oh | 12:33 |
| rafaellaguna | or if you're brave enough you can edit the theme file ;) | 12:33 |
| koell | i thought i can tweak that | 12:33 |
| koell | it is in the gtk2 theme file? | 12:33 |
| rafaellaguna | yes, in pcmanfm.rc | 12:34 |
| rafaellaguna | nope, sorry, in gtkrc | 12:34 |
| koell | haha | 12:34 |
| rafaellaguna | gtk_color_scheme = "sidepane_color:#dae0e6" | 12:34 |
| rafaellaguna | gtk_color_scheme = "sidebar_color:#dae0e6" | 12:34 |
| rafaellaguna | both | 12:34 |
| koell | i tried the default lxde/openbox themes. they look... weird | 12:34 |
| rafaellaguna | first lines | 12:34 |
| rafaellaguna | yeah, it looks... old | 12:34 |
| koell | where do i find that gtkrc? | 12:35 |
| rafaellaguna | in gtk2 | 12:35 |
| rafaellaguna | I recommend you to use gcolor2 to generate a nice colour | 12:36 |
| koell | great :) do you know where to find some other icons? really i do like lubuntu default look, but i have to see something different sometimes :D | 12:36 |
| rafaellaguna | in www.gnome-look.org too | 12:36 |
| koell | im a lubuntu user for almost 4 years now \o/ | 12:37 |
| rafaellaguna | wow, thanks! I love to hear that :D | 12:37 |
| koell | do you design the LXQT thing as well? | 12:37 |
| rafaellaguna | yes, I'm on it | 12:37 |
| koell | i dont like to switch =) | 12:38 |
| rafaellaguna | yes, I'm comfortable too, but change is needed, it's the future :) | 12:38 |
| koell | it looks not that simple for me imho :D | 12:38 |
| rafaellaguna | don't worry, I'll make it so Lubuntu like you won't notice any difference :) | 12:39 |
| koell | hahahah :D | 12:39 |
| koell | i just take a look on the new kde5. i think it still llooks stupid with that flat design + the shadow. hahahaha | 12:40 |
| rafaellaguna | yes, too flat, I know it's "trendy", but people get tired of that in a few hours, that's why I hate iOS andd the new Android, and installed MIUI instead | 12:40 |
| rafaellaguna | in my phone, I mean | 12:41 |
| koell | im nothing against flat, but they didnt decide between flat and sceumorphsmsmms xd | 12:41 |
| koell | but hey, they do their work in freetime, i appreciate that :) | 12:42 |
| rafaellaguna | the brain cannot "read" graphics in flat design after a few hours, we all designers know that | 12:42 |
| koell | really? | 12:42 |
| koell | maybe thats where long shadow design came in :D | 12:42 |
| rafaellaguna | yup, brain is lazy :D it wants well defined areas to look, and so flat colours are confusing | 12:43 |
| koell | rafaellaguna: so i can only use gtk2 themes in lubuntu right? | 12:45 |
| rafaellaguna | noooo, Lubuntu default theme is gtk3 (and gtk2 for old apps) | 12:45 |
| koell | oh | 12:46 |
| rafaellaguna | I have to go now | 12:47 |
| rafaellaguna | see you, guys :D | 12:47 |
| koell | rafaellaguna: come back! | 12:47 |
| koell | :3 | 12:47 |
| rafaellaguna | I will, glad to speak with you ^^ | 12:48 |
| rafaellaguna | bye! | 12:48 |
| fares | hi | 12:54 |
| fares | i use lubuntu and i want to use when start lubuntu between command line and gui how? | 12:56 |
| fares | ? | 12:59 |
| fares | ? | 13:05 |
| koell | fares: you need to create a new session folder in ~/.config/lxsession | 13:11 |
| koell | just copy from the existing ones | 13:12 |
| koell | i do it the same for i3wm and on autostart i kill all what i dont need therefore :) | 13:12 |
| fares | koell : thank you for answer i will try it | 13:13 |
| koell | :D | 13:13 |
| phillw | koell: he will be back this evening (UTC time). | 14:15 |
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| rafaellaguna | http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f28/Galliriko/tumbleweed.gif | 21:56 |
| rena_ | rafaellaguna: lol | 22:00 |
| rafaellaguna | :D | 22:01 |
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