[04:16] Hey, can someone help me get my touchpad setup? [04:16] apparently I have the drivers but when I run synclient I get: Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded? === rez is now known as Guest44576 === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 [11:49] suncokret, I was looking for you [11:50] hello [11:50] i am here [11:50] :) [11:50] what's new? [11:50] I figured out what problem was, a few minutes after we disconnected [11:50] I feel stupid :| [11:51] there's no bug at all [11:52] since a few releases, synaptic is a GTK3 app. Crux is a GTK2 theme with no support for GTK3 widgets. That's the problem. It's a very very old theme, unmaintained. [11:53] so which theme is gtk3 [11:53] ? [11:53] many, ambiance, radiance, Lubuntu Box ;) , Zuki, Elementary, etc... [11:54] is any of them instaled with system or i need to download them? [11:55] you have to install light-themes (these are ubuntu themes), or use the Lubuntu ones (already installed if you have Lubuntu, abviously) [11:55] but you can download more, at www.gnome-look.org be sure to look for GTK3 themes only [11:55] Crux is still there for compatibility, but there's no reason to exist anymore if new apps cannot use it [11:56] and why all other applications under root didn't accept colors? [11:56] all are GTK? [11:56] all are GTK3? [11:56] for example [11:56] grub customizer [11:56] gufw [11:56] maybe because the user colors are meant to be used only for that user [11:56] i will try with other theme [11:56] yes, every app started as root (even using "gksudo pcmanfm" will become root) [11:57] and see will this work [11:57] yes, try, there're plenty nice GTK3 theems out there. of course I recommend use Lubuntu, maybe because I did it :D [11:58] you mean [11:58] lubuntu default theme? [11:58] yup [11:58] some themes don't alow to change custom colors [11:58] i hope that most of GTK3 themes aloww that [11:58] allow [11:58] :) [11:59] i am not in lubuntu now [11:59] and i have installed 13.04 [12:00] if you want to keep it updated (GTK3 and icons too) use the instructions provided here: http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/p/artwork.html [12:00] i have to return position of lubuntu 14.04 [12:00] so [12:00] it doesn't matter [12:00] can you try to use some gtk3 theme [12:00] is the lubuntu PPC port maintained by the core/same team as the x86 version or sperate people [12:00] and remember, colorization isn't a theme feature, it's a desktop feature, Ubuntu does not colorize, Lubuntu does [12:00] and change background color in theme [12:01] and then try to run synaptic [12:01] can you try that now [12:01] use some gtk3 theme [12:01] yes :) [12:01] I'm using Lubuntu default theme now in MATE, and Synaptic uses it [12:02] you have MATE on Lubuntu? [12:02] confirmed [12:02] yes, I'm testing it, I have lots of desktops :D [12:02] i was tried too [12:02] xfce [12:02] openbox, windowmaker, xfce, lxqt, etc. [12:02] cinnamon, it is very slow [12:02] and [12:02] I need them to test my themes [12:02] can you change to LXDE [12:02] cinnamon and gnome3 are really slow on old computers [12:02] and then try [12:03] to run synaptic [12:03] because [12:03] i was instal xfce on lubuntu 13.04 [12:03] and synaptic didn't acept selected themes [12:03] and in LXDE it accept [12:03] trust me, install lubuntu-artwork package and it will work on root apps too [12:04] because it's installed in /usr/share/themes [12:04] can i find that in synaptic? [12:04] yes [12:04] i will try [12:04] lubuntu-artwork [12:05] and [12:05] is there something similar [12:05] for xfce? [12:05] in synaptic? [12:05] xubuntu has shimmer-themes, gtk3 too [12:06] i will try [12:06] ok, enjoy! [12:07] thank you [12:07] you're welcome ;) [12:07] i'll be back to tell you results [12:07] fine, tell me [12:07] i have just one partition for linux [12:07] and i have dual boot with xp [12:08] don't you have a partition for your home? [12:08] and i use clonezilla, or norton ghost [12:08] gparted works better and doesn't erase data [12:08] for backup position of instaled and configured system [12:08] i use it for backup [12:08] partition to image [12:08] :) [12:09] no, i home is on \ [12:09] I have en external disc for that [12:09] for backups I mean [12:09] no, home is on \ [12:09] it's safer to have a separate home partition, if you need rto reinstall and format Linux [12:09] i know [12:10] but i copied some directories from home .config [12:10] with configurations from programs [12:10] :) [12:10] so i have that [12:10] too much work :D [12:10] no [12:11] i don't use much programs [12:11] I just clone my partition to the USB disc [12:15] i have now backup images from Lubuntu 13.04 and 14.04 [12:15] i save it on other partition [12:15] so you can install 14.04 on top :) [12:16] now i have on linux partition 13.04 [12:16] and i can delete it [12:17] right [12:17] and change to 14.04 [12:17] for about 3 minutes [12:17] :) [12:17] I recommend you 14.04, really, it's an improved system [12:19] if i solve this with colors i will use 14.04 [12:20] I'm not sure about colors, but it's not so important to colorize root apps, but they must use your theme, even in standard colour mode [12:20] another solution is changing the root theme, using "gksudo lxappearance" [12:20] no [12:20] then you can colorize it too [12:20] i tried that [12:20] and when you type [12:20] "gksudo lxappearance" [12:20] system block [12:21] and you can only restart it [12:21] with restart taster [12:21] :) [12:21] that is bug [12:21] not for me, I'm testing right now [12:21] it works fine [12:22] i was try that on LXDE on lubuntu 14.04 [12:22] and system was blocked [12:22] :) [12:22] then [12:22] O_o [12:22] i was try [12:22] to login in openbox [12:23] and then i use "gksudo lxappearance" [12:23] and i change colors [12:23] but synaptic didn't accept them [12:23] . [12:23] is there an alternative gtk2/openbox theme for lubuntu? i need to see something differen :D [12:23] www.gnome-look.org :) [12:23] gtk2? what for? [12:23] they dont look that good like the default one =( [12:24] i dont know if i can take them seriously xD [12:24] Lubuntu theme is not "serious"? [12:24] lubuntu ones itself is SERIOUS but not those on gnome look [12:25] try zukitwo, shimmer-themes or elementary, they're nice theme [12:25] okey thanks [12:25] you're welcome [12:26] but it is hard to find an overall good looking theme with icons and all that stuff xD [12:26] i go to try... i'll be back [12:26] thank you for help [12:27] my pleasure :) [12:27] hey phillw :) [12:27] i just cant find one that is nearly as good as lubuntu-default :D [12:27] i may just adjust the colors :D [12:28] thanks :) [12:28] rafaellaguna: O_o? [12:29] I made Lubuntu theme :D [12:29] ohhhh yeah!!! \o/ [12:29] i like the one really [12:29] that's why I thank you :D [12:29] but what i most like is, it looks good all together, colors, icons, theme etc [12:29] it's being accepted very well [12:30] yes, I tried to make eye pleasant and homogeneous, nothing disturbing [12:30] i like the new white background since 14.04 [12:30] i guess it was gray before? [12:30] yes, it matches new Ubuntu themes, but I think it suits better with our colours [12:30] i dont like ubuntu thems :D [12:31] even better with a shadow under the windows, using compton [12:31] I do, but I like this better [12:32] lubuntu theme look really good with i3wm [12:32] really? I didn't tested that DE [12:32] do you know how to change the background color of pcmanfm sidebar? [12:32] to-do note ;) [12:33] you can't, it's in the code of the theme. only changing the theme [12:33] oh [12:33] or if you're brave enough you can edit the theme file ;) [12:33] i thought i can tweak that [12:33] it is in the gtk2 theme file? [12:34] yes, in pcmanfm.rc [12:34] nope, sorry, in gtkrc [12:34] haha [12:34] gtk_color_scheme = "sidepane_color:#dae0e6" [12:34] gtk_color_scheme = "sidebar_color:#dae0e6" [12:34] both [12:34] i tried the default lxde/openbox themes. they look... weird [12:34] first lines [12:34] yeah, it looks... old [12:35] where do i find that gtkrc? [12:35] in gtk2 [12:36] I recommend you to use gcolor2 to generate a nice colour [12:36] great :) do you know where to find some other icons? really i do like lubuntu default look, but i have to see something different sometimes :D [12:36] in www.gnome-look.org too [12:37] im a lubuntu user for almost 4 years now \o/ [12:37] wow, thanks! I love to hear that :D [12:37] do you design the LXQT thing as well? [12:37] yes, I'm on it [12:38] i dont like to switch =) [12:38] yes, I'm comfortable too, but change is needed, it's the future :) [12:38] it looks not that simple for me imho :D [12:39] don't worry, I'll make it so Lubuntu like you won't notice any difference :) [12:39] hahahah :D [12:40] i just take a look on the new kde5. i think it still llooks stupid with that flat design + the shadow. hahahaha [12:40] yes, too flat, I know it's "trendy", but people get tired of that in a few hours, that's why I hate iOS andd the new Android, and installed MIUI instead [12:41] in my phone, I mean [12:41] im nothing against flat, but they didnt decide between flat and sceumorphsmsmms xd [12:42] but hey, they do their work in freetime, i appreciate that :) [12:42] the brain cannot "read" graphics in flat design after a few hours, we all designers know that [12:42] really? [12:42] maybe thats where long shadow design came in :D [12:43] yup, brain is lazy :D it wants well defined areas to look, and so flat colours are confusing [12:45] rafaellaguna: so i can only use gtk2 themes in lubuntu right? [12:45] noooo, Lubuntu default theme is gtk3 (and gtk2 for old apps) [12:46] oh [12:47] I have to go now [12:47] see you, guys :D [12:47] rafaellaguna: come back! [12:47] :3 [12:48] I will, glad to speak with you ^^ [12:48] bye! [12:54] hi [12:56] i use lubuntu and i want to use when start lubuntu between command line and gui how? [12:59] ? [13:05] ? [13:11] fares: you need to create a new session folder in ~/.config/lxsession [13:12] just copy from the existing ones [13:12] i do it the same for i3wm and on autostart i kill all what i dont need therefore :) [13:13] koell : thank you for answer i will try it [13:13] :D [14:15] koell: he will be back this evening (UTC time). === ochosi_ is now known as ochosi === silverlion is now known as Guest93932 === Guest93932 is now known as silverliion === silverliion is now known as silverlion [21:56] http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f28/Galliriko/tumbleweed.gif [22:00] rafaellaguna: lol [22:01] :D