[04:50] <pitti> Bonjour
[06:21] <didrocks> mvo_: hey, how are you?
[06:27] <mvo_> didrocks: good morning
[06:27] <mvo_> good, thanks!
[06:32] <didrocks1> mvo_: hum, freenode timed out on me, what did you get?
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[06:32] <mvo_>  good, thanks!
[06:33] <didrocks1> ahah, ok ;)
[06:33] <didrocks1> let me repaste
[06:33] <didrocks1> mvo_: I'm at the point of doing some black box tests. I have them already on the real system (installing
[06:33] <didrocks1> packaging, modifying gsettings and other environment)
[06:33] <didrocks1> mvo_: it would be nice to run them in a non destructive way (to not touch the user env), and in addition to fake
[06:33] <didrocks1> server, download and so on that I can do, I'm at the "apt" case
[06:33] <didrocks1> I think the easiest would be to chroot somewhere and do the install there?
[06:33] <didrocks1> (but I don't really feel doing a debootstrap for each test)
[06:33] <didrocks1> do you have any suggestion? (maybe that would be time to experiment docker and see how I can bindmount/get results from outside)
[06:39] <mvo_> didrocks1: hm, yeah, a chroot will work. what kind of testing do you want to do? just checking that the install/remove etc works? building the chroot is expensive, thats the only downside I can think of
[06:39] <didrocks1> mvo_: it's the whole use cases, executing with subprocess the command line directly
[06:39] <didrocks1> so yeah, install, remove, reinstall…
[06:39] <didrocks1> I have those tests running on the final system (so destructive)
[06:40] <didrocks1> I want to reuse the same tests in a non destructive manner
[06:41] <mvo_> didrocks1: ok, so yeah, debootstrap and go for it :) I have something similar (but much less sophisticated) in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unattended-upgrades-developers/unattended-upgrades/trunk/view/head:/test/test_in_chroot.py
[06:42] <mvo_> didrocks1: the _run_upgrade_test_in_real_chroot() is probably vaguely interessting, not sure how well this all maps to your use case, but it may be a interessting starting point
[06:43] <didrocks> mvo_: ah, excellent! thanks for the hint, will look at that :)
[08:03] <Laney> hey ho
[08:03] <seb128> Laney, howdy
[08:03] <seb128> how is u.k today?
[08:04] <Laney> heatwave!
[08:04] <Laney> don't laugh, apparently that means 25°
[08:05] <seb128> lol
[08:05] <seb128> sorry
[08:05] <seb128> they forecast 36°C here today
[08:06] <didrocks> hey Laney!
[08:06] <seb128> no, in fact "only" 32°C today, 34 to 36 for tomorrow
[08:06] <Laney> haha
[08:06] <Laney> the papers have even written about this
[08:06] <Laney> oh actually 30 is forecast for tomorrow ;-)
[08:06] <Laney> hey didrocks
[08:06] <seb128> so you do get summer sometimes!
[08:09] <larsu> haha, I love the daily "weather in europe" discussions
[08:10] <larsu> 24° in Berlin right now, going up to 27°
[08:12] <didrocks> 31° right now, going up 34
[08:15] <seb128> didrocks, that's what you get for living in the *south* of France ;-)
[08:15] <didrocks> seb128: check your geography :p
[08:15]  * seb128 checks, put a pin on Metz and look south
[08:15] <seb128> oh, Lyon!
[08:15]  * didrocks looks at the very north of France, where they are almost not french
[08:16] <didrocks> oh, a seb128! :)
[08:16] <seb128> :-p
[08:16]  * ogra_ wonders what these southern guys talk about 
[08:17] <xnox> 24 -> 28 predicted for london.
[08:17] <seb128> u.k and Berlin have the best weather this week
[08:18]  * mvo_ hugs seb'centeroftheworld'128 
[08:18] <didrocks> ahah :)
[08:18] <didrocks> mvo_: good one!
[08:18] <seb128> lol
[08:18]  * seb128 hugs mvo_ back
[08:19] <mvo_> weeh, 28°C here today
[08:19] <seb128> nice
[08:20] <ogra_> /msg ChanServ RENAME #ubuntu-desktop #ubuntu-theweatherchannel
[08:20] <xnox> !weather London
[08:21] <xnox> ubot5: weather?!
[08:21] <ogra_> heh
[08:24] <didrocks> there is no weather in London
[08:25] <Laney> what the eff happened https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-mako/2320/console there
[08:25] <Laney> FAIL ALL THE TESTS!
[08:49] <xnox> looks like apparmor was not run to allow dbus introspection?!
[08:51] <xnox> Laney: also I fixed the bug that previously "01:53:24.762 WARNING emulators:26 - The ubuntuuitoolkit.emulators module is deprecated. Import the autopilot helpers from the top-level ubuntuuitoolkit module." was causing the tests to run under python2, instead of python3.
[08:51] <xnox> now it's all correct and running under python3.
[08:51] <Laney> cool
[08:52] <xnox> "failureare" <3
[11:01] <pstolowski> pitti, hello! any idea about that failure https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity-team-unity-scope-click-devel-utopic-i386-ci/185/console ? I see this 2nd time in a row for this project
[11:05] <pitti> pstolowski: yeah, the deaded hash sum mismatches :/
[11:05] <pitti> pstolowski: the fix for the CI airline would be to run something like
[11:05] <pitti> apt-get update || { sleep 15; apt-get update }
[11:06] <pstolowski> uhm
[11:06] <pitti> autopkgtest does that, but the airline isn't using that yet
[11:06] <pstolowski> pitti, who can do that?
[11:06] <pitti> pstolowski: vila/francisg I suppose
[11:06] <pitti> pstolowski: for now, just retry the test
[11:08] <pstolowski> pitti, k, thanks
[11:52] <Laney> attente: did you find out what that last entry in u-s-s/languages is?
[12:05] <Laney> attente: (we probably need to include that font)
[12:22] <dpm> attente, Laney, it's Korean, it needs the 'fonts-nanum' package to be installed to be readable
[12:50] <marga> User accounts in Trusty were incorrectly being set as SystemAccounts.  I've patched accountsservice to fix this (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/accountsservice/+bug/1343261), but now my problem is that the accounts are already marked as SystemAccount in /var/lib/AccountsService/users/.  Is there some CLI way of marking account as not system? (other than deleting the files, which I would rather not do since I can't do it safely m
[12:50] <marga> ore than once)
[15:41] <seb128> nice to see pat triaging the settings bugs ;-)
[15:44] <Laney> yep
[15:44] <Laney> must be fun assigning people to stuff ;-)
[15:44] <seb128> yeah
[15:45]  * seb128 does that sometime but doesn't have as much power to do it :p
[15:47] <Laney> you had your chance!
[15:50] <kenvandine> haha
[15:51] <GunnarHj> Hi seb128
[15:53] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey
[15:53] <GunnarHj> seb128: There is something weird with the accountsservice package in the trusty upload queue. Could you please remove it, and I'll try to reupload.
[15:55] <seb128> ok
[15:55] <GunnarHj> seb128: It's a simple patch addition, but the diff contains a lot of irrelevant stuff, and it does not build...
[15:56] <seb128> GunnarHj, done
[15:56] <GunnarHj> seb128: Thanks!
[16:04] <Laney> seb128: which inspiron did you get?
[16:05] <Laney> that's the one you were testing desktop-next on right?
[16:05] <ochosi_> seb128: would you mind sponsoring that xdg-utils patch for trusty-proposed so we can proceed with the SRU? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker/+bug/1309744
[17:07] <seb128> Laney, 1310 I think (it's not mine, it's one from Canonical)
[17:07] <seb128> why?
[17:17] <Laney> seb128: trying to get one, want to be able to do desktop-next stuff
[17:19] <Laney> doesn't seem to be 1310
[17:26] <seb128> didrocks, do you remember?
[17:27] <Laney> http://www.dell.com/uk/dfh/p/inspiron-11-3137/pd ?
[17:27] <seb128> Laney, yes
[17:27] <seb128> 11 3nnn
[17:27] <Laney> cheers
[17:27] <seb128> yw
[17:28] <seb128> you can try to ask to get one from Canonical if that's for testing
[17:28] <Laney> you read my mind ;-)
[17:29] <didrocks> seb128: not really and I don't find the email back
[17:30] <didrocks> but Laney found, so good :)
[17:30] <Laney> ochosi_: I'll look tomorrow for you
[17:30] <ochosi_> Laney: thanks a bunch!
[17:30]  * Laney is off now to have a heatwave ride
[17:30] <ochosi_> weeee
[17:30] <ochosi_> hf Laney :)
[17:30] <Laney> ochosi_: you'll have to do some nagging if you want it in quickly
[17:31] <ochosi_> yeah, i know, i just wanna piss ppl off...
[17:31] <ochosi_> (cause i hate it when ppl nag at me for a bugfix or something)
[17:31] <ochosi_> but fine...
[17:31] <Laney> you have a fairly tight deadline
[17:31] <Laney> so might be necessary
[17:31] <Laney> unless you don't mind if people get it through normal updates
[17:32] <ochosi_> seb128, didrocks: as you know the thing, would you mind sponsoring the xdg-utils patch to trusty-proposed?
[17:32] <Laney> I mean after it's uploaded, nagging at the SRU team
[17:32] <ochosi_> Laney: yeah, you're right. i tried a few times in -release but maybe gave up too quickly
[17:32] <didrocks> ochosi_: not today for me
[17:32] <Laney> because then it has to be manually accepted
[17:32] <didrocks> was about to leave :p
[17:32] <ochosi_> didrocks: lucky you ;)
[17:32] <Laney> anyway maybe you'll get lucky tonight, otherwise I'll look tomorrow
[17:33]  * Laney → bike, ttyl!
[17:33] <ochosi_> Laney: yeah, thanks!
[17:33]  * ochosi_ is still a bit new to how all these processes work...
[17:33] <ochosi_> seb128: so you're the only one left i can bug :]
[17:34]  * didrocks waves good evening btw ;)
[17:34] <didrocks> see you tomorrow guys!
[17:34] <didrocks> have a good week-end seb128
[17:51] <seb128> ochosi_, sorry, I'm on vac until end of week now, just around to see backlog and reply to some comment
[17:52] <seb128> ochosi_, I can look on monday if nobody does it before
[17:55] <ochosi_> seb128: oh, i didn't know! in that case enjoy your holidays and nvm, i'll find someone
[17:55] <seb128> thanks