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pitti | Good morning | 04:49 |
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pitti | Noskcaj: python-dbusmock is fixed for upower now, FYI | 04:49 |
pitti | Noskcaj: django-celery built, so apparently someone quietly retried it already | 04:49 |
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Noskcaj | pitti, good to know | 08:37 |
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popey | ☹ bug 1314796 has broken my utopic chroot | 09:50 |
ubottu | bug 1314796 in cgmanager (Ubuntu) "[systemd] cgmanager needs systemd unit or init.d script" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314796 | 09:50 |
apachelogger | mvo_: have you moved apturl functionality into the software center already? I am currently preparing kubuntu ports to qt5 and probably will move the kde side of apturl into muon, so as far kubuntu is concerned apturl will probably become unused in 15.04 | 10:07 |
mvo_ | apachelogger: yes, software-center can deal with the apturl stuff | 10:13 |
apachelogger | mvo_: groovy, we can probably consider retiring apturl then | 10:16 |
mvo_ | +1 for that | 10:16 |
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pitti | jodh: thanks for your patch in bug 1342586, I'll apply to git! | 10:55 |
ubottu | bug 1342586 in systemd-shim (Ubuntu) "[utopic] [proposed] cgmanager breaks lightdm login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1342586 | 10:55 |
pitti | jodh: what do you mean with "the packaging branch is out of date"? | 10:56 |
jodh | pitti: the systemd bzr branch is out-of-date | 10:56 |
pitti | oh, bzr | 10:56 |
pitti | jodh: how urgent do you think is this? | 10:58 |
jodh | pitti: the bugfix or the branch issue? :) | 10:59 |
pitti | jodh: I don't care about the bzr branch, I have an ubuntu branch in the debian systemd packaging git :) | 10:59 |
pitti | jodh: I mean the crash | 10:59 |
* pitti tries booting with systemd on utopic du jour | 11:00 | |
jodh | pitti: well, it means you can't update very easily, so pretty important I'd say. | 11:01 |
pitti | jodh: booting with systemd works fine here, but right, lightdm not crashing is a bummer; I'll upload | 11:03 |
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darkxst | hey pitti | 11:21 |
darkxst | how is dependencies.txt generated? see bug 1342923, which lists libglib2.0-0 2.40.0-2, but the retrace has "/build/buildd/glib2.0-2.41.2~git20140710.60fe7b46" from a ricotz ppa (which the retracer can't know about since its not listed in dependencies.txt) | 11:23 |
ubottu | bug 1342923 in Ubuntu GNOME "tracker-store crashed with SIGSEGV in _IO_vfprintf_internal()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1342923 | 11:23 |
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pitti | darkxst: it's asking apt on the reporting system about the versinos | 11:50 |
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darkxst | pitti, but is it getting the wrong version perhaps? | 12:12 |
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darkxst | we have five retraces (for the same crash) that show a symbol from ricotz glib snapshot, but the retracer does not know about that ppa, since its not listed as an [Origin: /] tag | 12:14 |
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* darkxst wonders, we have seen lots of failed retracers, with no real reason why, perhaps this is related, pitti? | 12:32 | |
pitti | darkxst: that bug does have packages from the PPA in dependencies; does the PPA actually have a newer glib version? | 12:33 |
ricotz | pitti, hi, the reporters dependencies.txt refers to glib 2.40.0-2 which suggests only the gnome3-staging ppa is in use, but the trace mentions a snapshot version which happen to match the version i have/had in my ppa | 12:40 |
ricotz | (the gnome3-staging ppa doesnt contain a newer package glib) | 12:41 |
tseliot | pitti: hi, so, about this reverse dependency thing, bumblebee only "suggests" bumblebee-nvidia, which, in turn, depends on the nvidia drivers: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2014-July/002955.html | 13:13 |
tseliot | pitti: a suggested dependency shouldn't really cause any troubles, should it? | 13:14 |
pitti | tseliot: no, we don't install them by default or consider them in component-mismatches/britney | 13:23 |
tseliot | pitti: so is that a false positive? | 13:24 |
pitti | Recommends: nvidia-prime (>= 0.5) | bumblebee | 13:24 |
pitti | tseliot: so supposedly a bug in component-mismatches then | 13:25 |
tseliot | pitti: ok, thanks | 13:25 |
xnox | cjwatson: just noticed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/1274320 when working on mdadm update. Is there anything that can/should be done to resolve this? | 13:33 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1274320 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Error: diskfilter writes are not supported" [High,Triaged] | 13:33 |
xnox | e.g. I just did a stock raid1 mdadm install and ideally i wouldn't be seeing such messages on boot. | 13:34 |
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dannf | rbasak: sure, that'd be great (1324992 -> trusty) | 13:36 |
rbasak | dannf: done already :) | 13:37 |
cjwatson | xnox: I have a patch in my Debian inbox which I think will quieten that | 13:57 |
xnox | cjwatson: \o/ cool. | 14:00 |
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Guest71295 | hi, I am trying to port ubuntu to powerpc 32 bit little endian. Am I in right place to ask question? | 14:31 |
Guest71295 | Does any one know what debian arch name for PowerPC 32 bit little endian? | 14:33 |
cjwatson | I'm not sure one has been assigned, though my guess would be powerpcel. It would be necessary to work with the Debian dpkg maintainers as pretty much the first step | 14:34 |
Guest71295 | thanks cjwatson! That's what I thought and currently using it. I sent email to Debian dpkg maintainer (3 of them) and I haven't gotten a message yet. | 14:35 |
cjwatson | Yeah, nothing in dpkg.git | 14:35 |
cjwatson | Right, but you'll have to wait for that first. No point doing a bunch of work and then having to redo it all. | 14:35 |
Guest71295 | OK. I will wait for the "confirm" message then. I would be better to work on something else then. (such as porting xbuilder which seems ceased to support Trusty) | 14:37 |
Guest71295 | Anyway, I don't have a machine (power8 or so) yet, so I have finished test build powerpc64le multilib with Cross Linux From Scratch, and I am trying to finished | 14:40 |
Guest71295 | my work with my favorite linux distro, ubuntu. | 14:41 |
Guest71295 | well, anyway, thank you cjwatson. I will come back if there is any standout progress.^^ | 14:42 |
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hallyn_ | stgraber: cgmanager appears to be stuck in utopic-proposed. but it passed jenkins. how do i tell why it's hung up? | 15:17 |
cjwatson | hallyn_: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#cgmanager | 15:18 |
cjwatson | lxc autopkgtest regression | 15:18 |
* hallyn_ notes that url | 15:18 | |
hallyn_ | cjwatson: thanks | 15:19 |
hallyn_ | interesting. | 15:20 |
hallyn_ | stgraber: these look like what pitti was pinging you about the other night; i somehwo thought you'd resolved them - https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Utopic/view/AutoPkgTest/job/utopic-adt-lxc/lastBuild/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/console | 15:20 |
* doko shouldn't do a test build with nocheck and introduce a typo in the check code :-/ | 15:29 | |
xnox | =))))))) happens. | 15:41 |
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hallyn_ | cjwatson: d'oh, i bet the lxc failure was due to the same kernel cgroup kernel bug as the cgmanager test was | 16:12 |
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achiang | stgraber: i'm about to start investigating what it might take to create a deb that would automatically setup an LXC container + other bits. is there any prior art i could look at? | 17:42 |
ogra_ | achiang, like lxc-android-config ? :) | 17:43 |
achiang | stgraber: my first thought is to stick a lot of manual setup stuff into the maintainer scripts | 17:43 |
achiang | ogra_: good pointer, i'll take a look at that one | 17:43 |
ogra_ | (it does exactly that) | 17:43 |
ogra_ | we rely on unpacking the rootfs in initrd thuogh ... you would have to do that bit somewhere else for yours | 17:44 |
ogra_ | (the container rootfs that is) | 17:44 |
achiang | ogra_: my use case is to create a metapackage that encapsulates a utopic lxc container and holds the ubuntu-sdk bits inside, for deployment on trusty | 17:45 |
hallyn_ | stgraber: yeah, lxc-test-unpriv fails with the utopic-release kernel (3.16), passes with 3.15, so i assume it's the cgroup-rmdir that's failing; presumably the ubuntu upstream kernel will also allow it to pass (will test in a minute) | 17:45 |
hallyn_ | stgraber: anything we can do to let lxc promote anyway? i suppose i need to find the kernel patch that caused this and try to get it cherrypicked? :( | 17:46 |
hallyn_ | hm, i'll see which rc fixes it at least | 17:50 |
ricotz | doko, hi, seems like graphviz isnt initializing the plugins after upgrading, it refers to libgvc5-config-update rather then libgvc6-config-update in postinst and postrm | 18:05 |
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doko | ricotz, ok, looking | 18:41 |
doko | ricotz, fixed in proposed | 19:30 |
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hallyn_ | stgraber: d'oh. found the cause of the lxc test failures in jenkins | 21:00 |
hallyn_ | sending a patch to m-l in a min | 21:00 |
hallyn_ | hm, this might be a contender for worst commit msg ever, but here goes | 21:03 |
hallyn_ | stgraber: please ack and push as quickly as possible, and we should get it into utopic-proposed asap to get jenkins to pass | 21:04 |
ricotz | doko, thanks | 21:15 |
achiang | stgraber: in your blog, why do we need to install things like ubuntu-artwork and dmz-cursor-theme? https://www.stgraber.org/2014/02/09/lxc-1-0-gui-in-containers/ | 21:31 |
hallyn_ | bc #unicorns | 21:31 |
achiang | hallyn_: was that addressed to me? or is that some weird irssi command? :) | 21:33 |
hallyn_ | achiang: to you :) | 21:36 |
achiang | hallyn_: ha. ok, but... i don't get your joke. (it's a joke, right?) | 21:37 |
hallyn_ | unicorns, pretty artwork... sorry. i'll leave now | 21:37 |
hallyn_ | ok i'm going to push those two patches to git and to utopic | 21:38 |
hallyn_ | cjwatson: xnox: what is "utopic-release"? is that for things which are held back by jenkins failures? or a synonym for -updates? or what? | 21:40 |
hallyn_ | (new lxc pushed, hopefully that will unblock cgmanager 0.27) | 21:46 |
stgraber | achiang: mostly so things don't look bad :) | 21:46 |
Chipaca | is there a way to specify, in a control file, that a package depends on the same version of another package that is built from the same source? | 21:46 |
stgraber | achiang: I believe that was mainly visible with steam | 21:47 |
stgraber | achiang: and possibly also relevant to skype if you want it to look like a gtk app | 21:47 |
achiang | stgraber: ah, ok. i mean i was wondering... if you're using chrome in a container, why do you need a wallpaper? | 21:47 |
achiang | stgraber: but anyway, makes sense, thanks | 21:47 |
Noskcaj | Host can i make infernal not attempt to build on i386? | 21:50 |
Noskcaj | *how | 21:50 |
Noskcaj | Since not all i386 machines have SSE2, the debian maintainer has set binaries to only build on amd64, but us building arch: all on i386 means it attempts to build there | 21:51 |
xnox | hallyn_: "utopic" is ambigious. on archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ we have 4 suites - "utopic", "utopic-updates", "update-proposed", "utopic-security". However on launchpad those map to utopic series with - "releae", "updates", "proposed", "security" /pockets/ | 22:01 |
xnox | hallyn_: britney / proposed migration is as follows - all uploads are redirected into "utopic-proposed" from where they migrate to "utopic" (aka utopic-release) if are installable and adt tests pass. | 22:01 |
xnox | hallyn_: updates and security pockets are only opened after series becomes stable, at that time "release" pocket is frozen ("utopic" suite on the archive.ubuntu.com). | 22:02 |
xnox | hallyn_: more about proposed migration is on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration | 22:02 |
xnox | hallyn_: on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#cgmanager you will be able to track if new lxc unblocks things. | 22:04 |
xnox | hallyn_: the new lxc is still building and hasn't been tested yet =) | 22:04 |
hallyn_ | xnox: d'oh, i see. so -release is a synonym for just 'utopic' bc it's devel release. sorry, i was being a moron | 22:10 |
stgraber | achiang: note that it's "ubuntu-artwork" not "ubuntu-wallpapers" (though I suspect it pulls that latter in). So that's the combination of icon themes, gtk themes, ... that make Ubuntu looks like Ubuntu | 22:10 |
hallyn_ | thanks | 22:10 |
achiang | stgraber: ack | 22:10 |
achiang | i was sloppy in my comment | 22:11 |
xnox | hallyn_: yeah, terminology is fuzzy =) | 22:11 |
hallyn_ | all right while i wait for that i can finally look at the StopSession for systemd-shim | 22:12 |
achiang | stgraber: if i am in an lxc environment, is there some issue with loading libraries outside of standard LD_LIBRARY_PATH? i have put the ubuntu-sdk in a container and am trying to build my app, which builds a shared lib in a local dir. upon trying to test, i get an error about not being able to load it | 22:13 |
stgraber | achiang: I can't really think of anything special there. LXC doesn't do any fancy ld configuration or anything. | 22:16 |
achiang | stgraber: hm, must be something else then. | 22:16 |
achiang | stgraber: i'll keep digging, thanks | 22:16 |
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achiang | stgraber: ABI mismatch of sorts. i had built the lib outside the lxc on trusty host, then attempted to run a QML app inside the utopic lxc | 22:22 |
achiang | stgraber: rebuilding inside utopic lxc fixed everything :) | 22:22 |
stgraber | achiang: good to hear lxc wasn't to blame :) | 22:29 |
achiang | stgraber: i'm sure that 90% of the time when i touch something and it breaks, for me specifically it can be root caused to pebkac ;) | 22:30 |
stgraber | :) | 22:30 |
achiang | stgraber: anyway, my little adventure with lxc is proving fruitful. lxc-izing the ubuntu-sdk helps minimize the dev pain if a user wants to stay on utopic | 22:30 |
achiang | sorry | 22:30 |
achiang | if a user wants to stay on trusty | 22:30 |
achiang | but target utopic | 22:31 |
achiang | stgraber: i haven't got there yet, but there will be bits that will require unity8 hosting inside lxc on trusty... i understand you're working on something like that. so when you're off holidays, maybe i can ping you | 22:32 |
stgraber | achiang: right, christownsend and I have been working on running a whole unity8 session inside LXC on trusty. I've heard some progress have actually been made on that today though I'm still waiting for the details. | 22:44 |
lifeless | has anyone else see reschedules not happenign | 23:16 |
lifeless | like, when it should happen it goes nowhere | 23:17 |
lifeless | state BUILD task - | 23:17 |
mwhudson | lifeless: mischan? | 23:19 |
mwhudson | if not i have no idea what you mean :) | 23:19 |
Noskcaj-school | Can someone please retry the kanla build in utopic? It should work now. | 23:22 |
lifeless | mwhudson: yup | 23:23 |
lifeless | mwhudson: openstack foo | 23:23 |
lifeless | sorry | 23:23 |
cjwatson | Noskcaj-school: retried | 23:28 |
mwhudson | lifeless: heh nw | 23:29 |
UserError | What is with the signon-ui/signond dependencies? | 23:33 |
UserError | I mean really. | 23:33 |
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