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pittiGood morning04:49
pittiNoskcaj: python-dbusmock is fixed for upower now, FYI04:49
pittiNoskcaj: django-celery built, so apparently someone quietly retried it already04:49
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Noskcajpitti, good to know08:37
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popey☹ bug 1314796 has broken my utopic chroot09:50
ubottubug 1314796 in cgmanager (Ubuntu) "[systemd] cgmanager needs systemd unit or init.d script" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131479609:50
apacheloggermvo_: have you moved apturl functionality into the software center already? I am currently preparing kubuntu ports to qt5 and probably will move the kde side of apturl into muon, so as far kubuntu is concerned apturl will probably become unused in 15.0410:07
mvo_apachelogger: yes, software-center can deal with the apturl stuff10:13
apacheloggermvo_: groovy, we can probably consider retiring apturl then10:16
mvo_+1 for that10:16
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pittijodh: thanks for your patch in bug 1342586, I'll apply to git!10:55
ubottubug 1342586 in systemd-shim (Ubuntu) "[utopic] [proposed] cgmanager breaks lightdm login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134258610:55
pittijodh: what do you mean with "the packaging branch is out of date"?10:56
jodhpitti: the systemd bzr branch is out-of-date10:56
pittioh, bzr10:56
pittijodh: how urgent do you think is this?10:58
jodhpitti: the bugfix or the branch issue? :)10:59
pittijodh: I don't care about the bzr branch, I have an ubuntu branch in the debian systemd packaging git :)10:59
pittijodh: I mean the crash10:59
* pitti tries booting with systemd on utopic du jour11:00
jodhpitti: well, it means you can't update very easily, so pretty important I'd say.11:01
pittijodh: booting with systemd works fine here, but right, lightdm not crashing is a bummer; I'll upload11:03
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darkxsthey pitti11:21
darkxsthow is dependencies.txt generated? see bug 1342923, which lists libglib2.0-0 2.40.0-2, but the retrace has "/build/buildd/glib2.0-2.41.2~git20140710.60fe7b46" from a ricotz ppa (which the retracer can't know about since its not listed in dependencies.txt)11:23
ubottubug 1342923 in Ubuntu GNOME "tracker-store crashed with SIGSEGV in _IO_vfprintf_internal()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134292311:23
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pittidarkxst: it's asking apt on the reporting system about the versinos11:50
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darkxstpitti, but is it getting the wrong version perhaps?12:12
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darkxstwe have five retraces (for the same crash) that show a symbol from ricotz glib snapshot, but the retracer does not know about that ppa, since its not listed as an [Origin: /] tag12:14
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* darkxst wonders, we have seen lots of failed retracers, with no real reason why, perhaps this is related, pitti?12:32
pittidarkxst: that bug does have packages from the PPA in dependencies; does the PPA actually have a newer glib version?12:33
ricotzpitti, hi, the reporters dependencies.txt refers to glib 2.40.0-2 which suggests only the gnome3-staging ppa is in use, but the trace mentions a snapshot version which happen to match the version i have/had in my ppa12:40
ricotz(the gnome3-staging ppa doesnt contain a newer package glib)12:41
tseliotpitti: hi, so, about this reverse dependency thing, bumblebee only "suggests" bumblebee-nvidia, which, in turn, depends on the nvidia drivers: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2014-July/002955.html13:13
tseliotpitti: a suggested dependency shouldn't really cause any troubles, should it?13:14
pittitseliot: no, we don't install them by default or consider them in component-mismatches/britney13:23
tseliotpitti: so is that a false positive?13:24
pittiRecommends: nvidia-prime (>= 0.5) | bumblebee13:24
pittitseliot: so supposedly a bug in component-mismatches then13:25
tseliotpitti: ok, thanks13:25
xnox cjwatson: just noticed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/1274320 when working on mdadm update. Is there anything that can/should be done to resolve this?13:33
ubottuUbuntu bug 1274320 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Error: diskfilter writes are not supported" [High,Triaged]13:33
xnoxe.g. I just did a stock raid1 mdadm install and ideally i wouldn't be seeing such messages on boot.13:34
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dannfrbasak: sure, that'd be great (1324992 -> trusty)13:36
rbasakdannf: done already :)13:37
cjwatsonxnox: I have a patch in my Debian inbox which I think will quieten that13:57
xnoxcjwatson: \o/ cool.14:00
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Guest71295hi, I am trying to port ubuntu to powerpc 32 bit little endian.  Am I in right place to ask question?14:31
Guest71295Does any one know what debian arch name for PowerPC 32 bit little endian?14:33
cjwatsonI'm not sure one has been assigned, though my guess would be powerpcel.  It would be necessary to work with the Debian dpkg maintainers as pretty much the first step14:34
Guest71295thanks cjwatson!  That's what I thought and currently using it.  I sent email to Debian dpkg maintainer (3 of them) and I haven't gotten a message yet.14:35
cjwatsonYeah, nothing in dpkg.git14:35
cjwatsonRight, but you'll have to wait for that first.  No point doing a bunch of work and then having to redo it all.14:35
Guest71295OK.  I will wait for the "confirm" message then.   I would be better to work on something else then. (such as porting xbuilder which seems ceased to support Trusty)14:37
Guest71295Anyway, I don't have a machine (power8 or so) yet, so I have finished test build powerpc64le multilib with Cross Linux From Scratch, and I am trying to finished14:40
Guest71295my work with my favorite linux distro, ubuntu.14:41
Guest71295well, anyway, thank you cjwatson. I will come back if there is any standout progress.^^14:42
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hallyn_stgraber: cgmanager appears to be stuck in utopic-proposed.  but it passed jenkins.  how do i tell why it's hung up?15:17
cjwatsonhallyn_: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#cgmanager15:18
cjwatsonlxc autopkgtest regression15:18
* hallyn_ notes that url15:18
hallyn_cjwatson: thanks15:19
hallyn_interesting.15:20
hallyn_stgraber: these look like what pitti was pinging you about the other night;  i somehwo thought you'd resolved them - https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Utopic/view/AutoPkgTest/job/utopic-adt-lxc/lastBuild/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/console15:20
* doko shouldn't do a test build with nocheck and introduce a typo in the check code :-/15:29
xnox=))))))) happens.15:41
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hallyn_cjwatson: d'oh, i bet the lxc failure was due to the same kernel cgroup kernel bug as the cgmanager test was16:12
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achiangstgraber: i'm about to start investigating what it might take to create a deb that would automatically setup an LXC container + other bits. is there any prior art i could look at?17:42
ogra_achiang, like lxc-android-config ? :)17:43
achiangstgraber: my first thought is to stick a lot of manual setup stuff into the maintainer scripts17:43
achiangogra_: good pointer, i'll take a look at that one17:43
ogra_(it does exactly that)17:43
ogra_we rely on unpacking the rootfs in initrd thuogh ... you would have to do that bit somewhere else for yours17:44
ogra_(the container rootfs that is)17:44
achiangogra_: my use case is to create a metapackage that encapsulates a utopic lxc container and holds the ubuntu-sdk bits inside, for deployment on trusty17:45
hallyn_stgraber: yeah, lxc-test-unpriv fails with the utopic-release kernel (3.16), passes with 3.15, so i assume it's the cgroup-rmdir that's failing;  presumably the ubuntu upstream kernel will also allow it to pass (will test in a minute)17:45
hallyn_stgraber: anything we can do to let lxc promote anyway?  i suppose i need to find the kernel patch that caused this and try to get it cherrypicked? :(17:46
hallyn_hm, i'll see which rc fixes it at least17:50
ricotzdoko, hi, seems like graphviz isnt initializing the plugins after upgrading, it refers to libgvc5-config-update rather then libgvc6-config-update in postinst and postrm18:05
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dokoricotz, ok, looking18:41
dokoricotz, fixed in proposed19:30
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hallyn_stgraber: d'oh.  found the cause of the lxc test failures in jenkins21:00
hallyn_sending a patch to m-l in a min21:00
hallyn_hm, this might be a contender for worst commit msg ever, but here goes21:03
hallyn_stgraber: please ack and push as quickly as possible, and we should get it into utopic-proposed asap to get jenkins to pass21:04
ricotzdoko, thanks21:15
achiangstgraber: in your blog, why do we need to install things like ubuntu-artwork and dmz-cursor-theme? https://www.stgraber.org/2014/02/09/lxc-1-0-gui-in-containers/21:31
hallyn_bc #unicorns21:31
achianghallyn_: was that addressed to me? or is that some weird irssi command? :)21:33
hallyn_achiang: to you :)21:36
achianghallyn_: ha. ok, but... i don't get your joke. (it's a joke, right?)21:37
hallyn_unicorns, pretty artwork...  sorry.  i'll leave now21:37
hallyn_ok i'm going to push those two patches to git and to utopic21:38
hallyn_cjwatson: xnox: what is "utopic-release"?  is that for things which are held back by jenkins failures?  or a synonym for -updates?  or what?21:40
hallyn_(new lxc pushed, hopefully that will unblock cgmanager 0.27)21:46
stgraberachiang: mostly so things don't look bad :)21:46
Chipacais there a way to specify, in a control file, that a package depends on the same version of another package that is built from the same source?21:46
stgraberachiang: I believe that was mainly visible with steam21:47
stgraberachiang: and possibly also relevant to skype if you want it to look like a gtk app21:47
achiangstgraber: ah, ok. i mean i was wondering... if you're using chrome in a container, why do you need a wallpaper?21:47
achiangstgraber: but anyway, makes sense, thanks21:47
NoskcajHost can i make infernal not attempt to build on i386?21:50
Noskcaj*how21:50
NoskcajSince not all i386 machines have SSE2, the debian maintainer has set binaries to only build on amd64, but us building arch: all on i386 means it attempts to build there21:51
xnoxhallyn_: "utopic" is ambigious. on archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ we have 4 suites - "utopic", "utopic-updates", "update-proposed", "utopic-security". However on launchpad those map to utopic series with - "releae", "updates", "proposed", "security" /pockets/22:01
xnoxhallyn_: britney / proposed migration is as follows - all uploads are redirected into "utopic-proposed" from where they migrate to "utopic" (aka utopic-release) if are installable and adt tests pass.22:01
xnoxhallyn_: updates and security pockets are only opened after series becomes stable, at that time "release" pocket is frozen ("utopic" suite on the archive.ubuntu.com).22:02
xnoxhallyn_: more about proposed migration is on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration22:02
xnoxhallyn_: on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#cgmanager you will be able to track if new lxc unblocks things.22:04
xnoxhallyn_: the new lxc is still building and hasn't been tested yet =)22:04
hallyn_xnox: d'oh, i see.  so -release is a synonym for just 'utopic' bc it's devel release.  sorry, i was being a moron22:10
stgraberachiang: note that it's "ubuntu-artwork" not "ubuntu-wallpapers" (though I suspect it pulls that latter in). So that's the combination of icon themes, gtk themes, ... that make Ubuntu looks like Ubuntu22:10
hallyn_thanks22:10
achiangstgraber: ack22:10
achiangi was sloppy in my comment22:11
xnoxhallyn_: yeah, terminology is fuzzy =)22:11
hallyn_all right while i wait for that i can finally look at the StopSession for systemd-shim22:12
achiangstgraber: if i am in an lxc environment, is there some issue with loading libraries outside of standard LD_LIBRARY_PATH? i have put the ubuntu-sdk in a container and am trying to build my app, which builds a shared lib in a local dir. upon trying to test, i get an error about not being able to load it22:13
stgraberachiang: I can't really think of anything special there. LXC doesn't do any fancy ld configuration or anything.22:16
achiangstgraber: hm, must be something else then.22:16
achiangstgraber: i'll keep digging, thanks22:16
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achiangstgraber: ABI mismatch of sorts. i had built the lib outside the lxc on trusty host, then attempted to run a QML app inside the utopic lxc22:22
achiangstgraber: rebuilding inside utopic lxc fixed everything :)22:22
stgraberachiang: good to hear lxc wasn't to blame :)22:29
achiangstgraber: i'm sure that 90% of the time when i touch something and it breaks, for me specifically it can be root caused to pebkac ;)22:30
stgraber:)22:30
achiangstgraber: anyway, my little adventure with lxc is proving fruitful. lxc-izing the ubuntu-sdk helps minimize the dev pain if a user wants to stay on utopic22:30
achiangsorry22:30
achiangif a user wants to stay on trusty22:30
achiangbut target utopic22:31
achiangstgraber: i haven't got there yet, but there will be bits that will require unity8 hosting inside lxc on trusty... i understand you're working on something like that. so when you're off holidays, maybe i can ping you22:32
stgraberachiang: right, christownsend and I have been working on running a whole unity8 session inside LXC on trusty. I've heard some progress have actually been made on that today though I'm still waiting for the details.22:44
lifelesshas anyone else see reschedules not happenign23:16
lifelesslike, when it should happen it goes nowhere23:17
lifelessstate BUILD task -23:17
mwhudsonlifeless: mischan?23:19
mwhudsonif not i have no idea what you mean :)23:19
Noskcaj-schoolCan someone please retry the kanla build in utopic? It should work now.23:22
lifelessmwhudson: yup23:23
lifelessmwhudson: openstack foo23:23
lifelesssorry23:23
cjwatsonNoskcaj-school: retried23:28
mwhudsonlifeless: heh nw23:29
UserErrorWhat is with the signon-ui/signond dependencies?23:33
UserErrorI mean really.23:33
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