[01:47] <teward> has a specific EOL date been chosen for 13.10 yet?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases says "July 2014", I wasnt sure if there was a specific date
[01:49] <cjwatson> teward: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2014-June/000185.html
[01:50] <teward> cjwatson, ahhhh, apparently i missed the announcement going out, something to do with STMP issues to google servers and mail being dropped *shrugs*
[01:50] <teward> cjwatson, thanks
[01:50] <bluesabre> it seems menulibre and xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin, despite being seeded by xubuntu, are not included in the xubuntu packageset... how can I request their inclusion?
[09:28] <ochosi> hey bdmurray, just a quick reminder about bug 1309744 (should be tday meanwhile ;))
[10:40] <bluesabre> Good morning/afternoon/evening, if anybody is available, please accept xubuntu-meta 2.181 into utopic
[10:54] <bluesabre> Also, please accept xubuntu-default-settings 14.04.5 into trusty-proposed so it can be included with 14.04.1
[13:52] <shadeslayer> cjwatson: ping
[13:52] <shadeslayer> did /usr/lib/syslinux/chain.c32 get nuked in utopic?
[13:55] <shadeslayer> it's weird
[13:56] <shadeslayer> http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/amd64/syslinux-common/filelist lists it, but I don't see it inside the deb
[13:57] <cjwatson> Not sure why Contents is wrong, but Daniel moved some stuff around.  Try /usr/lib/syslinux/modules/bios/chain.c32
[13:57] <shadeslayer> cjwatson: right, but, ubuntu-defaults-image searches for /usr/lib/syslinux/chain.c32
[13:58] <cjwatson> Yes, change it
[13:58] <shadeslayer> ok
[13:58] <cjwatson> Probably make it try both
[14:04] <shadeslayer> ahhh
[14:04] <shadeslayer> I know how to fixeroo it
[14:06] <shadeslayer> the themes package is broken
[14:06] <shadeslayer> the syslinux-themes-ubuntu-trusty package has this in its .links file : usr/lib/syslinux/chain.c32 usr/share/syslinux/themes/ubuntu-trusty/isolinux-live/chain.c32
[14:07] <cjwatson> so broken when installed on utopic, yes
[14:07] <cjwatson> I'll fix it and add the -utopic package
[14:07] <shadeslayer> thanks :)
[14:08]  * cjwatson shakes fist at pointless file renames
[14:08] <shadeslayer> ^^ :P
[14:08] <shadeslayer> I have tor re upload all of tier 3 frameworks tomorrow :(
[14:09] <shadeslayer> because a new naming convention was choosen for QML Modules
[14:09] <shadeslayer> so much sadness
[14:16] <cjwatson> shadeslayer: uploaded; will need binary NEW processing from not-me a bit later though
[14:19] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^
[14:22]  * Riddell looks
[14:23] <Riddell> accepted!
[14:23] <shadeslayer> thx :)
[14:23] <cjwatson> speedy
[14:24] <ochosi> if any of you have time to help along two xubuntu-related SRUs, feel free to check bug 1309744 and accept xubuntu-default-settings 14.04.5 into trusty-proposed
[14:31] <cjwatson> Riddell: How's calligra going?
[14:31] <cjwatson> Oh, just saw the latest upload
[14:33] <cjwatson> Still fails though
[14:49] <Riddell> cjwatson: yeah it's waiting on that librevenge MIR
[14:52] <shadeslayer> cjwatson: getting there http://imgur.com/h2uDzj5 :P
[14:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: uploaded kdeclarative again
[14:55] <shadeslayer> done
[14:55] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^
[15:09] <mdeslaur> infinity: so...how does mirroring work? can someone get Package files without the debs being mirrored yet? it seems ScottK has hit that scenario with the mysql update I just published
[15:10] <mdeslaur> infinity: ie: he hit this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7809398/
[15:11] <cjwatson> Well-run mirrors mirror the indices last.
[15:11] <cjwatson> Which you'd kind of think would include our own.
[15:12] <cjwatson> But it could be a broken "transparent" proxy.
[15:12] <mdeslaur> cjwatson: is there someone specific I should mention this to?
[15:12] <cjwatson> I'm not sure.  Is it reproducible?
[15:13] <cjwatson> Perhaps worth asking IS in case there's some problem with our internal mirroring infrastructure.  Somebody was having trouble with "click chroot" earlier today too.
[15:13] <infinity> Those packages definitely aren't there in the pool...
[15:13] <mdeslaur> rbasak has been seeing similar errors since last wednesday
[15:13] <mdeslaur> infinity: hum? I can download them...
[15:13] <rbasak> My 404 errors are from archive.u.c on utopic
[15:14] <infinity> mdeslaur: From security.u.c?
[15:14] <rbasak> mdeslaur: perhaps you're hitting different frontends. Sounds like an IS issue maybe.
[15:14] <mdeslaur> infinity: yep
[15:14] <infinity> Oh, that's a round-robin of archive frontends now.
[15:14] <infinity> So, yeah, one of their mirrors is busted.
[15:15] <mdeslaur> infinity: and now I can't anymore
[15:15] <xnox> rbasak: infinity: mdeslaur: i've reported that on #is-outage, but it was dismissed as "i'm doing it wrong"
[15:15] <mdeslaur> xnox: lol :)
[15:15] <xnox> as in, out of all mirrors for archive.ubuntu.com there are two that require hosts header to be set
[15:15] <xnox> otherwise they return 404
[15:16] <infinity> xnox: That's not what's going on here.
[15:16] <ScottK> FWIW, I'm not using any kind of local mirror or proxy.
[15:16] <mdeslaur> well, I'm using firefox...
[15:16] <infinity> xnox: This just plain didn't have the files in pool on some mirrors.
[15:16] <xnox> mdeslaur: well, please chat on #is about it.
[15:16] <xnox> infinity: lolz, excellent =)
[15:16] <ogra_> ScottK, its probably just so transparent that you cant see it ;)
[15:16] <xnox> or #ubuntu-mirrors
[15:17] <infinity> OTOH, that was pushed very recently, so it could just be that one's getting Packages from a mirror that updates a tiny bit faster.
[15:17] <cjwatson> ScottK: Round-robin breakage would explain it.  I just have a reflex on this one ...
[15:17] <mdeslaur> I'm in #is
[15:49] <shadeslayer> mdeslaur: fwiw I hit that too
[15:49] <shadeslayer> also : WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[15:49] <shadeslayer> not sure why I get that on my precise server
[15:50] <shadeslayer> mdeslaur: http://paste.kde.org/pouv7j45l
[15:51] <shadeslayer> note that this is on AWS
[15:53] <mdeslaur> shadeslayer: thanks, I've reported it
[16:05] <bdmurray> infinity: I've stopped accepting saucy crashes in errors as we have a retracing queue backlog as it is
[16:05] <bdmurray> infinity: who is handling the metarelease stuff?
[16:07] <infinity> bdmurray: You. :)
[16:09] <bdmurray> infinity: I'm working a half day today so changing it in the next 4 hours would be ideal.
[16:11] <infinity> bdmurray: You can change it now.  I'm sending the announce soon.
[16:11] <infinity> And closing it in LP now.
[16:11] <infinity> Once it stops timing out.
[16:14] <bdmurray> infinity: okay, will do
[16:16] <infinity> bdmurray: Closed off in LP now, and sending the announcement.
[16:37] <bdmurray> infinity: Do you know where http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/EOLReleaseAnnouncement comes from? "support timeframe is between 18 month and 5 years"
[16:37] <bdmurray> ah given that 18 is singular I have a guess ;-)
[16:44] <infinity> bdmurray: Is it not in the same bzr repo as meta-release?
[16:44] <infinity> bdmurray: It might come from release-upgrader or something, and be manually copied around.
[16:45] <infinity> bdmurray: Anyhow, mvo would likely know better.
[16:45] <bdmurray> infinity: I'm pretty sure its the release-upgrader
[16:56] <bdmurray> infinity: metarelease changes are done
[17:05] <infinity> bdmurray: Ta.
[17:27] <tgm4883> Is there any movement on this SRU? We've done the request of uploading to utopic as well (on june 26), but there has been no input since
[17:46] <infinity> tgm4883: Which SRU?  Unqualified pronouns don't help here. ;)
[17:47] <tgm4883> infinity: lol, forgot the link. My bad, just a sec
[17:47] <tgm4883> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/mythtv/+bug/1323391
[17:56] <ochosi_> bdmurray: sorry to nag, but the xdg-utils SRU...
[18:40]  * Riddell does the empty New queue dance
[18:41] <infinity> Riddell: Thanks for that. :)
[18:58] <cjwatson> Riddell: is it possible to get the uploader of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partitionmanager/1.1.0-0ubuntu1 to work with the Debian KDE folks to get that in there?  I'm particularly waiting for partitionmanager 1.1.0 in Debian for https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754580
[19:03] <cjwatson> Riddell: hm, never mind, I can ask directly :)
[19:56] <bdmurray> ochosi: I don't see the package in the trusty queue
[20:01] <ochosi> bdmurray: sorry, realised i need a sponsor first and already started looking
[20:01]  * ochosi is a bit of a noob in terms of SRUs...
[20:03] <bdmurray> ochosi: you are missing the launchpad bug number in the changelog, you'll want it in this format (LP: #1309744)
[20:05] <ochosi> oh, i wasn't aware of that
[20:06] <ochosi> not to use that as an excuse, but it was my first ever debian patch
[20:06] <ochosi> and didrocks had to hold my hand for it
[20:06] <ochosi> (which was very nice of him)
[22:04] <xnox> cjwatson: i really hope grub2 update makes it for 14.04.1, but bug #1314134 is not verified yet.
[23:55] <bluesabre> Please approve xubuntu-default-settings 14.04.5 into trusty-proposed so that we may ship it for 14.04.1 -- https://launchpadlibrarian.net/180062902/xubuntu-default-settings_14.04.5_source.changes
[23:59] <cjwatson> bluesabre: done
[23:59] <bluesabre> thanks cjwatson