[05:13] <Kilos> hi bduk mazal and others
[05:13] <Kilos> more nuvolari 
[05:23] <bduk> More almal
[05:29] <mazal> Môre oom
[05:50] <Symmetria> hrm
[05:50] <Symmetria> morning
[05:50] <Symmetria> dont suppose anyone here happens to be sitting behind the tenet backbone and can do a traceroute for me?
[05:57] <Squirm> bushtech_: thanks
[05:58] <Squirm> Symmetria: I can
[05:58] <Squirm> wait, no... I used to be with ESN
[05:58] <Squirm> and I dont think I was linked to the backbone :P
[05:58] <Squirm> nevermind
[05:58] <Symmetria> squirm heh, even on ESN
[05:58] <Symmetria> it might still use TENET
[05:59] <Symmetria> heh do a trace and see if it uses TENET at all or uses some other route :)
[05:59] <Squirm> we're now with mweb
[05:59] <Symmetria> am trying to see if they are returning traffic to me at NAP or at JINX, Im hoping its NAP else Im gonna screw our JINX connection horribly with a 16 terabyte transfer
[05:59] <Symmetria> ;p
[06:00] <Squirm> I don't know who would have access to that
[06:00] <Squirm> morning Kilos
[06:00] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[06:00] <Kilos> something buggy here
[06:00] <Squirm> Symmetria: do you not have a little shell account hidden away somewhere?
[06:01] <Kilos> one gmail account doesnt work from evolution but shows a popup that there should be a mail received
[06:06] <Kilos> sjoe net sick somewhere
[06:06] <Kilos> download rate 460 B/s
[06:07] <Kilos> eish now 230 B/s
[06:07] <Squirm> blame Symmetria
[06:08] <Kilos> Symmetria, what have you broken now
[06:09]  * Kilos changes repos
[06:09] <Squirm> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3629915755
[06:11] <Kilos> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3629918145
[06:12] <Squirm> that's not bad then
[06:12] <Kilos> how come my upload speed is faster than yours
[06:12] <Squirm> I don't know
[06:14] <Squirm> but I'm happy with a decent download speed
[06:14] <Kilos> yeah that one is great
[06:18] <Kilos> thats better. using ftp.sun.co.za now
[06:20]  * superfly pokes Kilos
[06:20] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[06:21] <Squirm> hello superfly 
[06:21] <superfly> hi Kilos, Squirm
[06:21] <nuvolari> o/ oh hi oom Kilos, Squirm, superfly
[06:22] <Squirm> hey nuvolari 
[06:24] <Kilos> gone up Squirm http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3629933176
[06:24] <Squirm> nice
[06:25] <Kilos> not bad for 3g
[06:25] <Squirm> and to get our speeds, we have bonded 4x4mb lines
[06:25] <Kilos> but i want it faster
[06:25] <Squirm> happens when you live in the sticks
[06:26] <Kilos> you guys should have ftth thing
[06:31] <Symmetria> Squirm as a matter of interest, what do you get from the speedtest server in kenya at liquid?
[06:32] <Symmetria> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3629943405 <[06:35] <Kilos> oh wow Symmetria 
[06:35] <Kilos> so where is the fast ubuntu mirror?
[06:35] <Symmetria> kilos heh, its installed and running, waiting for canonical to sort out the DNS 
[06:35] <Symmetria> ubuntu-archive.mirror.liquidtelecom.com
[06:36] <Symmetria> waiting for them to add me to the TLD mirror dns :(
[06:36] <Kilos> rev them
[06:36] <Kilos> our local mirrors are very unstable lately
[06:36] <Symmetria> last I checked my ticket was #30 in the queue ;p
[06:37] <Kilos> when was that?
[06:40] <Symmetria> yesterday :)
[06:40] <Kilos> ah
[06:53] <nuvolari> whut? did we have the splits?
[06:54] <Kilos> not that i can see nuvolari 
[06:59] <Kilos> only peer got bushtech
[07:00] <Kilos> his peer is vodaflop
[07:04] <nuvolari> what was my message oom Kilos ?
[07:04] <Kilos> nuvolari> whut? did we have the splits?
[07:09] <mazal> nuvolari has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[07:09] <mazal> nuvolari, ^
[07:09] <Kilos> oh up there, sorry
[07:10] <Kilos> only affectred 4 peeps
[07:10] <nuvolari> :O I didn't quit! pfft,
[07:10] <Kilos> Tonberry has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[07:10] <Kilos> * nuvolari has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[07:10] <Kilos> * ThatGraemeGuy has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[07:10] <Kilos> * georgl has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[07:15] <Kilos> hi Spekko , which one are you now
[07:15] <Kilos> the one by jabberwocky or the old one
[07:17] <inetpro> goeie more
[07:17] <Kilos> more inetpro 
[07:20] <nuvolari> think the server we connected to pinged out
[07:20] <nuvolari> môre inetpro 
[07:20] <charl> good morning Kilos, inetpro, nuvolari, mazal
[07:20] <charl> and Symmetria :)
[07:20] <Kilos> hi charl 
[07:21] <mazal> Morning charl 
[07:21] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[07:22]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[07:22] <nuvolari> oh hi charl 
[07:22] <nuvolari> Maaz: espresso please
[07:22] <Maaz> nuvolari: *blink*
[07:22] <nuvolari> not here Maaz 
[07:22] <charl> afk i'm drinking a double espresso right now actually
[07:22] <charl> haha nuvolari 
[07:22] <nuvolari> Maaz: coffee please
[07:22] <Maaz> nuvolari: Done
[07:23] <charl> i knew there was something going on between the two of you :P
[07:25] <Squirm> Symmetria: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3630009256
[07:25] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee please
[07:25] <Maaz> Squirm: Sure
[07:25] <Squirm> largest
[07:25] <Squirm> Maaz: largest
[07:25] <Maaz> Whew do you want a bath full Squirm?
[07:25] <Squirm> mwhahahahaha
[07:26] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl, nuvolari and Squirm!
[07:26] <nuvolari> thank you Maaz 
[07:26] <nuvolari> Maaz: Thanks
[07:26] <Maaz> nuvolari: Okay :-)
[07:28] <Squirm> Maaz: botsnack
[07:28] <Maaz> Thank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp
[07:33] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[07:33] <Maaz> charl: Okay :-)
[07:34] <Symmetria> FPD upgrade in progress. Max timeout remaining 84 min.
[07:34]  * Symmetria snores at his routers
[07:37] <charl> field programmable device ?
[07:37] <charl> Symmetria: ^^
[07:44] <Symmetria> yeah
[07:44] <Symmetria> someone remind me of the vi search and replace syntax to replace the first instance found on every line
[07:46] <nuvolari> :%s/search/replace/
[07:46] <nuvolari> I think
[07:46] <nuvolari> :P
[07:46] <nuvolari> Symmetria: ^^
[07:46] <charl> yes % is for every line (not just the current) and if you leave the g off at the end it will only do the first occurrance
[07:47] <charl> just tested it, it works
[07:47] <Symmetria> thanks
[07:47] <Symmetria> that worked
[07:47] <charl> :)
[09:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> moo
[09:50] <Kilos> haha hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[09:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> how's things? :)
[09:50] <Kilos> you been on the grass again
[09:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> oi if only
[09:50] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[09:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> busybusybusy
[09:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> taking a breather
[09:50] <Kilos> yeah looks like
[09:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> check up on my electrical grid in minetest
[09:51] <Kilos> i used your grinder last night and stole 8 marble blocks
[09:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> haha ok
[09:51] <Kilos> i dont know how you did it all, where did you get rubber from
[09:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> you building a hydro generator?
[09:52] <Kilos> i made some things but they need a network
[09:52] <Kilos> i tried a few things
[09:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> you build a thing called a tree tap, then you hit rubber trees with it
[09:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> to extract raw latex
[09:52] <Kilos> must the hydro one be near water?
[09:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> you see when you punch the tree the texture changes
[09:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> then you can cook raw latex to make rubber
[09:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> in a furnace, you get 1 rubber for 1 raw latex
[09:53] <Kilos> any tree?
[09:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> but if you use an extractor you get 3 rubber per raw latex
[09:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> no, rubber tree
[09:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> i planted 2 close to your house
[09:53] <Kilos> where are they?
[09:53] <Kilos> oh my goodness ty will look into that
[09:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> its a huge tree you can't miss it
[09:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> and as always, if you search for rubber in the craft guide you can figure out how to obtain it
[09:54] <Kilos> didnt get data yet so can only look tonight
[09:54] <Kilos> your stuff works kiff
[09:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> and yes, i'm going to mention the craft guide every time, until you remember :P
[09:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah
[09:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> you should see the 2 "tool workshop" boxes
[09:55] <Kilos> man i use the guide but there is always something i dont have
[09:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can place any worn tools in it and they regenerate
[09:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> pickaxe, axe, shovel, etc
[09:55] <Kilos> wow
[09:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> and i wouldn't worry with the hydro generator btw, just start making solar panels
[09:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> much better
[09:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> a basic circuit must have these things:
[09:56] <Kilos> ok i think i put it on my floor to make space in inventory
[09:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> something that generates electricity, e.g. solar panel or solar array
[09:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> a switch box
[09:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> a battery
[09:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> something that uses power
[09:56] <Kilos> there are things in the solar panels i still have to find or procure
[09:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> it gets more complicated with high, medium and low voltage, but that's the basic thing
[09:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can check out my setup if you want, but that might be confusing since i already have high, medium and low voltage networks set up
[09:58] <Kilos> but your place is looking good. i like the goodies on the chests to show what is inside
[09:58] <superfly> oooo, hydro? I wanna do that
[09:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> it's LV-only, as far as i can tell its meant to be a cheaper option to get started
[09:58] <Kilos> my house was getting too small so i had to put chests in the wall
[09:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> and doesn't burn coal like the fuel-powered lv generator
[10:04] <Kilos> we can put a hydro one at the dams waterfall. water with that kind of drop should power a genny that can supply the world
[10:04] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: where's the crafting guide?
[10:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> :-o
[10:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> for reals?
[10:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> press I
[10:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> click on a thing
[10:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> in the right side
[10:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> or search for it and then click
[10:05] <superfly> That doesn't work for me
[10:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> then on the left you see if its an ingredient or a result
[10:05] <superfly> when I click I get 99 of that item...
[10:05] <Kilos> aw
[10:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> then /set cheater_mode off
[10:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> :P
[10:06] <superfly> (probably because I'm server admin)
[10:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok i dont know why that happens it should only do that in creative mode
[10:06] <superfly> it's annoying when you want to know how to craft stuff
[10:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe there should be a separate admin account that isn't the one you use for general play
[10:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> dunno how else to get around that
[10:07] <Kilos> the new guide shows lots but everything needs 3 or more other things you have to go find first
[10:07] <superfly> remove my name from the minetest.conf file
[10:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> hang on
[10:09] <mazal> superfly, it's the creative permissions
[10:09] <mazal> Admin should just /revoke yourname creative
[10:10] <mazal> I had the same problem
[10:11] <superfly> OK, I'll try that
[10:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok you are no longer the server admin
[10:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> i created a "superadmin" user
[10:14] <superfly> OK, cool
[10:18] <charl> good afternoon foolks
[10:18] <charl> *folks
[10:18] <charl> what a mess of a morning - problems problems problems here
[10:19] <mazal> Hi charl 
[10:20] <Kilos> hi charl 
[10:23] <Kilos> forget problems man, just find solutions
[10:23] <charl> lol
[12:59] <Squirm> Kilos: Rectron is a little cheapr
[12:59] <Squirm> so... I'm getting a new PC :D
[13:00] <Kilos> cook
[13:00] <Squirm> cook indeed
[13:01] <Squirm> and then maybe
[13:01] <Squirm> just maybe...
[13:01] <Squirm> I might get myself an SSD next month
[13:07] <Squirm> only be ready for collection on Monday though
[13:13] <Kilos> lol cool man
[13:13] <Kilos> do you have a pricelist from them Squirm 
[13:15] <Kilos> i want to get a 1tB drive end of this month. then everything in this pc is newly aquired
[13:15] <Kilos> then saving starts for an i5 cpu
[13:37] <Kilos> i heard somewhere that an i7 is only 10% faster than an i3, is that true
[13:37] <Kilos> not twice as fast with the extra threads?
[13:40] <Squirm> I don't know
[13:41] <Squirm> so, I got a quote for that PC I want
[13:41] <Squirm> then I thought to hell with it
[13:41] <Squirm> and spent more :/
[13:41] <Kilos> lol
[13:41] <Squirm> so I'm getting myself a 120Gb SSD and 6Gb of RAM instead of 4
[13:41] <Squirm> s/6Gb/8Gb
[13:41]  * Squirm grumbles
[13:42] <Squirm> it'll keep me happy for a while
[13:42] <Kilos> that should make a big diffs then
[13:42] <Squirm> for the first time
[13:42] <Squirm> ever
[13:42] <Squirm> I have a pretty good PC
[13:42] <Kilos> haha like my i used old discard pcs till i bought this one
[13:42] <Kilos> like me
[13:43] <Squirm> I have 3 full 1Tb HDD's, with about 100Gb free in total. One of them is dying
[13:43] <Squirm> I hoard movies/series
[13:43] <Squirm> and can't afford another HDD
[13:43] <Squirm> so I now have to get rid of 1Tb of... stuff
[13:43] <Kilos> eish
[13:44] <Kilos> if you got uncapped put it in the clouds somewhere
[13:44] <Squirm> we have a media NFS at work :P
[13:44] <Kilos> NFS?
[13:45] <Squirm> umm
[13:45] <Squirm> NAS
[13:45] <Kilos> lol NAS?
[13:45] <Squirm> Network Attached Storage
[13:45] <Kilos> aha
[13:45] <Kilos> thats lekker
[13:45] <Squirm> it's a server, with 6Tb of space
[13:45] <Squirm> well, more of a small box
[13:45] <Squirm> and all it does is store data :P
[13:45] <Squirm> well, media, for the staff
[13:46] <Kilos> one day ill build myself a nice system and server
[13:46] <Squirm> 68% Full at the moment
[13:46] <Kilos> but you got space to plug in another drive havent you
[13:47] <Kilos> on the nas that is
[13:47] <Squirm> no, it has 4x2Tb drives. In Raid 5
[13:47] <Kilos> ai!
[13:47] <Squirm> which means you lose the space of 1 of the drives. but if one drive fails, you don't lose any data
[13:48] <Kilos> raid is when the drives carry data so if one crashes the data isnt lost right?
[13:48] <Kilos> lol myou too fast
[13:48] <Squirm> it depends on the array
[13:48] <Squirm> with raid 5, your server will carry on running, except it'll be very slow
[13:49] <Kilos> ok
[13:49] <Squirm> and we have hot-swappable drives. so if one dies, you just pull it out and plug a new one back in and it rebuilds itself
[13:49] <Kilos> cool
[13:49] <Squirm> one of our main server drives died the other day. We never had any down time, it was just painfully slow. took about 24 hours to rebuild the drive
[13:50] <Kilos> networking is interesting
[13:50] <Squirm> and that's not even a very large drive... I don't want to know what data centres go through
[13:50] <Kilos> ask andrew
[13:50] <Squirm> speaking of which. I have to go and connect up this point... I'll be back in a bit
[13:50] <Kilos> ok
[13:51] <Squirm> Symmetria: what's the rebuild time on a 4Tb+ drive
[13:51] <Squirm> ?
[13:55] <Spekko> Hey Kilos only see your message nauw O.o
[13:55] <Spekko> Was quite busy at work
[13:55] <Spekko> I'm the original one and only spekko
[13:55] <Spekko> howcome?
[13:57] <Kilos> that other guy there by wocky came on as you first then changed his nick
[13:57] <Kilos> they said you left
[14:04] <Spekko> I left the company wocky is working at
[14:04] <Spekko> So I'm still that same Spekko
[14:05] <Spekko> That company is shite... Never paying ovetime and expecting you to be at wotk 7:25am sharp, and if you leave at 4:30pm, they stare you down like you're not determined.
[14:05] <Spekko> Don't know how wocky is dealing though, begging him on a daily basis to come to this new awesome company, but he won't have any of it :/
[14:11] <Kilos> ai!
[14:12] <Kilos> anyway spekko you are in trouble, you left and didnt tell me about it
[14:13] <Kilos> naughty
[14:26] <nuvolari> oh hi
[14:37]  * Spekko begs for mercy
[14:38]  * nuvolari is also left
[14:38] <nuvolari> why we notty?
[14:46] <Kilos> hy het geloop van een plek na n ander sonder om te laat weet nuvolari 
[14:46] <Kilos> you are forgiven spekko, dont do it again
[14:48]  * Spekko promises he wont.. presents  you with some Fanta Orange as gift
[14:49] <Kilos> gracias
[14:49] <nuvolari> hoe nou oom Kilos?
[14:50] <nuvolari> oh
[14:50] <nuvolari>  ah
[14:50] <nuvolari> ok
[14:50] <Kilos> lol
[14:50] <nuvolari> dog left soos in lefty
[14:50] <Kilos> ek moet julle in toom hou anders gaan die plek n wrak wees
[14:50] <Spekko> rofl
[14:57] <Kilos> roll up 11pm
[14:58]  * Kilos needs to hunt for a rubber tree
[14:58] <Kilos> already know where the lava tree is
[14:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> rubber tree is at your house
[14:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> bbl
[14:59] <Kilos> go safe
[15:03] <nuvolari> rubbatree. klink dodgy
[15:03] <Kilos> rubberrrrrr
[15:04] <Kilos> oi whats with the netsplits
[15:06] <Kilos> we need someone to fix the za net
[15:06] <Kilos> blame the fly, he was going to find who to rev to get things fixed
[19:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[19:31] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[19:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> how's it that side?
[19:31] <Kilos> you know what i should do when data strapped like this atm
[19:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> buy more data? :)
[19:32] <Kilos> i should hire you to play for me
[19:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[19:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> you might as well use the money to buy data
[19:32] <Kilos> sis was supposed to get yesterday but forgot sigh
[19:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can't hire me for free :P
[19:32] <Kilos> man i can pay you with gold
[19:32] <Kilos> gold ingots
[19:33] <Kilos> hopefully she goes to town again before monday
[19:33] <Kilos> i really miss mining
[19:34] <Kilos> so tell me what side of the house is the rubber tree
[19:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> the outside
[19:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> har har
[19:34] <Kilos> rofl
[19:34] <Kilos> superfly, hit him
[19:35] <Kilos> did you look what i did inside ThatGraemeGuy ?
[19:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> will go check now
[19:35] <Kilos> shoulda done like you and just made a bigger place'
[19:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can always do that later
[19:36] <Kilos> i keep walking into the table even now though
[19:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> with the wrench its easier, you can pick up your full chests
[19:36] <Kilos> i still got to try that
[19:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> i reinvented my existing house as a basement because i had dozens of chests i couldn't move without major effort
[19:37] <Kilos> you just right click with wrench in place?
[19:37] <Kilos> i made a wrench last night'
[19:37] <Kilos> yay
[19:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> shift right-click
[19:37] <Kilos> \aha
[19:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> right-clicking a chest just opens
[19:37] <Kilos> ty for that
[19:38] <Kilos> another question, 
[19:39] <Kilos> oi
[19:39] <Kilos> i forgot
[19:39] <Kilos> oh ya
[19:40] <Kilos> how do you wire a network? drag wires all over?
[19:48] <Kilos> ha Gremble you went back to your nick again
[19:48] <Kilos> was asleep today, i didnt even notice
[19:48] <Gremble> I feel that change is not good for me.  It is better to stay a representative for the values that have been garnered over the years
[19:49] <Kilos> lol
[19:49] <Kilos> you starting to sound like a ballie
[19:49] <Gremble> :P
[19:51] <Kilos> question tumbleweed , has ibid stopped growing?
[19:52] <Kilos> uh oh
[19:52] <Kilos> that didnt last long
[19:53] <thebearnado> I don't like gremble_ so one is Gremble and the other thebearnado :P
[19:53] <Kilos> values fell by the wayside
[19:53] <Kilos> ah for disconnects
[19:53] <thebearnado> Logged in on the same nick with 2 machines
[19:54] <Kilos> make one grumble then they at least close
[20:07] <superfly> Kilos: ping
[20:08] <Kilos> superfly, pong
[21:22] <nuvolari> hrr.
[21:23] <nuvolari> any HR experts around?
[21:30] <charl> nuvolari: human resources?
[21:30] <nuvolari> charl: yeah
[21:31] <charl> nope sorry
[21:31] <charl> i'm off to bed
[21:31] <charl> nn
[21:31] <nuvolari> good night
[21:39] <Kilos> ai! nuvolari jy moet gaan slaap man
[21:41] <Kilos> Maaz, tell ThatGraemeGuy your server isnt letting anyone connect
[21:41] <Maaz> Kilos: Got it, I'll tell ThatGraemeGuy on freenode
[22:28] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight